The Tim Dillon Show - 436 - Andrew Schulz

Episode Date: March 22, 2025

Tim sits down with Andrew Schulz to discuss what touring in the Middle East was like, the decline of Los Angeles & why cults are its future, the lives of the ruling class, their thoughts on travel, and the future of humanity if the tech billionaires get what they want.  American Royalty Tour 🎟  https://punchup.live/TimDillon SPONSORS: Identity Guard  Go To https://identityguard.com/tim To Sign Up For A 30-Day FREE Trial & Get 60% OFF. Open Phone Go To https://openphone.com/tim To Get 20% OFF Your First 6 MONTHS. No Missed Calls, No Missed Customers.  Blue Chew Visit https://bluechew.com And Use Promo Code: 'TD' To Get Your First Month FREE! Just Pay $5 Shipping.  ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ Subscribe to the channel: https://www.youtube.com/@TimDillonShow?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram: https://instagram.com/timjdillon/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/TimJDillon Listen on Spotify! https://open.spotify.com/show/2gRd1woKiAazAKPWPkHjds?si=e8000ed157e441c8 Merch:  https://store.timdilloncomedy.com/ For every $400,000 we gross in revenue, we are donating five dollars to end homelessness in Los Angeles. We are challenging other creators to do the same. #TimGivesBack

Andrew Schultz is with us. Your new special out on Netflix right now. Yes, sir. Title. Life. Life. You did a huge tour, arena tour all over the world. A lot of Middle Eastern countries.

A lot. You're loved there. You fill. Yeah, I'm the only Schultz allowed in the Middle East. You do stadiums in like, in the wildest, you'll be like in a soccer stadium in like Bahrain. You're like Qatar, it's wild. Well if you do a decade of like women are annoying jokes,

you really can gratiate yourself. Ah! What's happening? What's happening? It's the biggest. A decade of bitch get in the kitchen, people start to go, we like this guy. What is different?

Is there anything different about doing comedy over there? Or is it kind of the same? Honestly, they're all educated in America. It's more similar to doing... Like you've done Europe, right? And you know how they're like aware of shit, but they also have their own TV shows, so they're also not aware. Whereas in the Middle East, they get all of our shit. Because they're not making their own TV shows really right So they're way more aware of you know just random

References and like they all get educated here and not at fucking NYU Do you get a talk is there any because I've never done anything over there. I told them don't tell me So they come to you like live nation comes to you And then they'll come to your manager and shit, and they'll and they'll say hey and I just say just don't tell me. Don't say XYZ. Just don't tell me. Gotcha. Okay. But I just don't want to know.

Because that was my question. Is there something where they go don't hey? Yeah. I mean don't talk about Mo. Like I think that's like the basic rule. What's that? Mahatma. Like you can't uh. Oh right. Yeah yeah. But like I even had some like uh. I thought you meant Mo Amor. I'm like he's that big Maham. Like you can't... Oh right. Yeah, yeah. But like, I even had some like... I thought you meant Mo Amr.

I'm like, he's that big that they threaten you? They're like, do not speak about him. I'm like, that's interesting. But that makes sense. But besides that, like I had jokes about like Muslims and shit like that. They were cool with it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They've all, they all went to school at like Central Tennessee State.

Like they know America. Is that true? Yeah, they know America America. Right, okay. So they're not at all like Worried about it. Yeah, interesting. I was in Abu Dhabi though So it's maybe a little different than if you're going to you know, Saudi Arabia I want to do I want to just do because I'm not gonna be able to sell the tickets you sell but I want to

Do Pakistan like put me in real kind of small I don't want any Western eyes. I want radical places where I can go, where it's like real deal nightmare city. Did you cover the story of the chick from Brooklyn who was in Pakistan? She was the story in Pakistan for like a week? Well, you know what's amazing?

Get some of her up because that to me is what the Costco family should have been. Like that woman. That, you know the Costco family should have been. Okay that woman That you know, you know the Costco obviously the cookie people double chomp chocolate cookie. Oh the boom or whatever Yeah, yeah, AJ and big justice the whole gang To me, it's my Costco family was this woman who went to meet a dude in Pakistan and they're all being nice to her They're buying a McDonald's. Like the Pakistani people kind of absorbed this.

They thought it was amazing. They welcomed her. Yeah. And she went over to meet a man. Yeah. And then she wanted 50 grand. Yeah. To fix Pakistan though. She was like, give me 50 grand.

I'm gonna fix the roads, the railways. Yeah. We're fixing Pakistan. That's a crazy, crazy... We're building airports. And she just met a dude online yeah that she catfished and then so when she he was down until she pulled up yeah yeah he thought she was different yeah he thought she was a different thing yeah yeah this woman yeah I mean she looks so cool I love the way she looked she just like a, get a video of her up

because she's making demands of the Pakistani government where she's like, I saw her sitting over there. Yeah, there you go. American woman who arrived in Karachi. Did they flew her home? I think they flew her to Dubai and then something happened in Dubai. She might have got detained.

You can only tolerate that for so long before, you know, yeah, yeah, here she is. An amazing woman. That you're going to give us money tomorrow. Oh, by the end of this week, we need 50 K We need 50k It's the most American thing to show up to another country and then ask for money to fix their country There's nothing more American than showing up going like I'd like to fix your country What that's so funny like why did we react like she was doing something so crazy now? This is all we do is a rock. This is a rock

Everything this is the most We're just like we you need our Shit yeah, you just need what we got and we just need a hundred grand That's all we need a little money to give you what you want. Yeah, yeah, and that's what we do. That's our game Can I ask you a question, Tim? Have you spoken on your show about your recent photo shoot? Have you talked about it yet? No, the one in California?

Yeah, the California photo shoot. Because I saw it proliferating the internet and I was incredibly impressed. You know, people don't think of me as a model, but the definitions are changing. And I wanted to go down and see the devastation of the California wildfires. And because, again, I sold my home here,

I was lucky enough not to have a house burned down, but that doesn't matter. Doesn't really matter because like a casino, anything can happen to anyone at any time. I've paid taxes here, I've lived here, I've participated in this culture. I wanted to kind of spend some time with the nightmarish reality of what fire can do.

So I went down there. And the National Guard has stopped you in the palisades, and they stopped you going into Malibu, and you gotta have, you gotta take out your license and you gotta have a good line of shit. And so you had, how'd you get in? What was the- My producer is sitting in the front row,

of the front seat of my car and he looked like a junkie because he's from California so they look like drug addicts. They have long hair and they have a stupid look to them and they're all glazed over. And I, and I, he actually said to me, he goes, just say you're dropping me off at a sober living and I go wow yeah so we stopped the national car guy stopped us and he goes what are you doing I said we're taking we're taking this kid to a

sober living and they were like good for you and I went yeah it is yeah it is actually and we drove there and I just started taking some photos In the wreckage, which I think we can find pretty easily. Yeah, they were nice I mean any specific homes like where they know they were just homes No, they were just things that I saw that caught my eye. I don't think they'll ever rebuild it there. I don't think They will ever I don't think they will ever like I mean people are saying that They'll rebuild it, but do would you rebuild it would you build another 20 million dollar house in an area where? That could happen okay all this is so interesting that you're even say this

I was talking to the all-in guys early Yeah, and I think it was Chamath was saying yeah this like this idea that's like a home on like 0.4 acres that's worth a hundred million dollars crazy there's just these crazy ideas that we need to completely rethink get rid of I agree with you and they were you know speaking in economic terms of like far beyond like my understanding but just this idea that like it's far beyond their understanding fair enough and people but uh I'm kidding I like them I like those criminals. They said an interesting thing,

and you probably know about this from your time doing mortgages or whatever, that like pushing the American dream of like purchasing a home, right? And that I guess the US government has inflated, I'm gonna say inflated the market, but in an effort to push people and support that market, essentially not letting that market fail,

it would suck if it would fail, obviously, they've inflated the prices of these homes and essentially priced out the first generation of people to buy homes. For sure. Now they're much more expensive. They've done a lot of things. It's the main thing in our country is the main dream

is that everyone owns a home. Yes. So number one, we're one of the only countries with a 30-year fixed mortgage. Nobody takes a loan out and gets 30 years of stability at one rate. And the reason that we're able to do that is the government came up with these things called GSEs, government-sponsored entities, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. And they give what they call an implicit guarantee. So they back it no matter what. They back it. And even though it's not explicit, it's like implicit,

you understand that it's going to be okay. It creates the security necessary for the market. Exactly. So it allows a bank to go out and lend a 30 year fixed mortgage at a favorable rate. They also depress interest rates so that people can get in the game. And then they create these asset bubbles where like houses are worth an absurd amount of money.

And, you know, I mean, look at this, right? So this is a car. Yeah. You know, people just left. This is how quickly these things came on. Yeah. That's a Bentley burnt. Go to the next photo. That's someone's house. You look slim. Burnt. I look great in that. I really think you do. Yeah. I think that's a great photo of me. And you know what? It's worth whatever happened in the background. I think so too. And look, so take a look at all of this. Here's my question, here's my issue.

You really start to realize once these houses are gone, it's kind of interesting. It's like LA when Hollywood is kind of died. It's almost like this town is now like Cinderella. It turned into the pumpkin and she's like, so what? It's a pumpkin. And you're like, no bitch, it's supposed to be a carriage. We're supposed to believe it's a carriage. You look at that shoreline. I don't think anything on that's worth anything

Isn't it funny? What the fuck Dollars to live here somebody spent 70 million dollars to live on that shoreline with that gray water and that overcast sky It's like when crypto hits zero and you just go, oh yeah, that's how much it should be. Right, and then the only reason Malibu was ever Malibu was because Hollywood was in LA. So you wanted to be two hour or an hour

or an hour and a half depending on where you were from the epicenter of Hollywood. And now you're like, well, if Hollywood's not centered in LA and it doesn't have the same, then Malibu, it's still, Malibu might not be Malibu anymore Yeah, people might just go fuck it. I'm gonna get I'm gonna get a beautiful home in Mexico I'm gonna get a beautiful home in the islands

I'm gonna go somewhere else because the world now is smaller and people are more comfortable going other places They don't need to be an hour and a half So what do you think happens with LA like give me the next like five. It becomes, it could become a vassal state of China, meaning like, and I'm kind of for that, where Chinese billionaires come in and just buy all the real estate. So like Vancouver. Yeah, that's what it is. Yeah. Canada's the future of a lot of things. Well, Canada, it's peaceful, it's calm. Yeah. No one's getting rich. rich. It's full socialism, and people get mad at me for saying that, but I don't mean in like the economic sense, I understand that it's capitalist whatever, blah, blah, blah, but I mean like wine bar.

Come in and get pizza. Nobody cares, no one's trying. You go into the supermarket, there's two types of peanut butter. It's a soulless corporate hell. And you walk around and it's just like, you know, I was kidding around like they should have places just called warm. It's warm in here. Like there's nothing unique. There's nothing interesting in most parts of Canada. It's just natural beauty. Yeah. That's kind of what I worry about with LA because it is, you know, the only thing that made LA interesting at all

was the fact that it was the home of myth. It was the home of pretend. It's a city with a college football team. Yeah. That's what Hollywood is. And then if the football team leaves the city, it's over. So what do you think happens to Columbus Ohio if Ohio State leaves? That's right. And Les Wexner. If Les Wexner and Ohio State leave it's over give him a shout out to less give him immunity you think he talks No, he's 90 years old. No, what does he have to lose? He's 90 years old You know, here's what they have to lose. Why let him win at 90 Why open your fat yap at 90?

So you could do you die with some peace? Peace? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I don't think he wants peace. No, what does he want? He wants peace, his. I think he's gotten a peace. I think he's gotten more than one peace. That's probably it. I think these guys, and it's fascinating,

because if you look at the ruling class, you go, the vast majority of them have no idea what's going on, they just know that the shrimp is good. Who is the ruling class to you now? Um? me you Theo von Joe Rogan no um Like is it still the Vanderbilt's the Rockefeller? You know the most richest most powerful you politically connected people in society like this guy owns a bunch of companies

Yeah, he's a big political donor. He's got a lot of friends. You know, you would do, yeah. So are the Ivy League Nepo babies, are they like, are they masquerading as the ruling class? They're all like in trouble. They came to my party in Hamptons. They all wanna be like comedians and writers.

I mean, it's, they're in trouble. So that's the thing I was wondering, like, I saw this. They all dropped dead when you walked in. I go, your family's killed people. They go, that's Andrew Schultz. I was like I saw the drop dead when you walked in I go your family's killed people So so there's this like I saw this pose like the oldest hotel in the world like in Japan It's like yeah starting year 703 and it's the same family for 52 generations. Yeah, right and You look at that you're like well That's kind of impressive because you look at these American families and within three or four generations

All the wealth is completely gone and you're right They all want to be comedians and writers and all this famous because they've been rich so they're bored Yes, and they go they want to be famous and also we got this thing here, which it's like, you know Follow your dreams and do whatever you want, which I think we need to push don't get me wrong but there's like a little there's Yeah, but what we don't have any of here is a What is that thing where it's like my dad was a cobbler and I'm a cobbler. Yeah, what what we don't have any of here is a, what is that thing where it's like, my dad was a cobbler and I'm a cobbler.

What is that called? I agree with you, but you're right. And I don't know the term for it, but it's certainly a, it's number one, it's a respect for history. It's this idea that you and your family specialize in something and that you must carry on that tradition.

And there's like societal utility in it. And you're not a loser for following in your family's footsteps. That's right. You're actually doing something honorable and carrying on this tradition. That's why Succession was such a good show, because the whole show is Logan looking at his firstborn son and going, you're a pussy. You'll never be able to do what I do. You'll be eaten alive out here.

Yeah. And a lot of these guys, the Les Wexers, now he has kids, I'm sure they're lovely people, but he's probably looking at them going, you guys are soft. You're never gonna be able to put a Ukrainian woman in a crate. You're never gonna be able to do it. Now, so what?

So what? And it doesn't mean they're bad, they're not bad people, the kids, but I think Les Wexner looks at them and goes, you'll never be able to do what I had to do to get here. You're never gonna have to watch, you're never gonna be able to sit in a room while the mafia tortures some guy to get him to do something like, you guys don't have it. You grew up watching Degrassi and your sweet kids. And I think there's part of that because...

But do they want them to do it? That's the thing that... No, probably not. They don't, so there's all this like ego in it where we're like, you're a pussy, you can't do what I do, but I really don't want you to do what I don't want you to have to do it Just don't do something nice make your mother happy. Yeah, cuz I believe less and again. No shade Um no shade no shade at all shade to less flex. No shade. I think he's one of the guys who Whatever he did didn't do. There are people that I believe are operators. I don't think it's most of those people. I think most of the people are like, we're rich.

This is good. Yeah, I have a I work in this thing. I work at this bank. Yeah. My wife is cool that I disappear occasionally. Yeah. And I come back. I think there are guys, though, that know how things work and can make things happen. Yeah. To a degree. You're talking about like real power.

Yeah. Those guys who like there's money and then there's power. Yeah. There's probably 10 percent of the rich people. Yeah. They're kind of going, hey, let's, you know, make something happen. Let's yeah. Let's move industry in a way that's favorable. Yeah. I mean, there's there's probably a lot more. Bad money mixed in with good money than people think. I think people think they look at drugs and weapons trafficking and human trafficking, all these things,

and they kind of in their head, they put it into one group. Yeah, as if that family is different than the Sacklers or something. Right. Or if that money and the and Wall Street money ain't all fucking together. Yeah. And if all this money is into like all this money's hanging out together. Money's friends with money like. Oh so a cartel boss you're saying might be friends with maybe not the boss of the cartel but whoever's managing the money at UBS for the cartel. A thousand percent. He's also managing the money for the MIT endowment or something like that. All these guys now with the Epstein case, you'll have to come out these guys. It was just a guy in Europe that had to do it, a guy in the UK. And he goes, I didn't, because he was managing all the Epstein's money. And it was for a credit suitor's spot.

Barclays, I believe, I believe. Get this right, because I don't want to piss. I want to get killed by the right people. But they were, but they were and they were going you had this business relationship with yeah this yeah right so this is a this is a guy here uh just is staley staley and he was basically they they said to him they go hey man why are you still working with Jeffrey Epstein long after you knew he had all these problems? And the guy's going like, the real answer is the money's green.

But he can't say that. He has to go, well, I don't, you know, I mean, it's hard to, well, I mean, you know, and but the reality is the money's green. Began his second day in the witness box at his appeal against a proposed ban, a 1.8 million pound fine, saying he had no idea about the late financier Epstein's quote, monstrous activities. So everybody's just gotta run around now and say,

hey, we're sorry we took the money, but everybody takes the money. Do we even care that they took it? I feel like we're just looking for somebody to punish. So now we're just going down the ladder and we're like, okay, you're your your assistant you knew yeah There's we want them we want cool justice one justice closure something So I think that we're trying to isolate these people and go

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the site for details. Okay. Another question. This is different. What are your thoughts on JD Vance? Smart, very smart. had him on the show. Oh, you spoke to him. Had him on the show, interviewed him. Yeah, what was your take? How prepared was he for you? I think prepared. Like he was acutely aware.

Yeah, I think JD Vance is a guy who's wanted to be at the highest levels of political life for a very long time, like Kamala Harris. Yeah. They're not dissimilar in that way. Right. Whereas I think Donald Trump's kind of a guy who's like just this wrecking ball of fame

and you know, interesting, these raw political instincts. JD Vance is a trained. Operator. Operator. Emotional intelligence through the roof. Very high, knows what he's doing, has detect people, has the Catholics. Disarming. Disarming. He's got a little bit of that like Clinton disarming with the accent. I think understands a lot of where, what is motivating and incentivizing people right now in the political sphere.

Now, what they do in the next four years and how it plays out is gonna, I think, determine his future because he will, I think, to an extent, own whatever happens. So here's the thing, what does he believe? That's my only concern with him. Like, I'm impressed with the guy that comes from a really tough family situation, broke, goes to Yale, navigates the Ivy League thing without having any sort of familial connectivity to

it and really nothing to offer in value. It's not like, I can understand if he was a brilliantly talented minority or something and there was some currency there. It's not like a tennis scholarship. Oh wait, did he? No, no, I'm saying if he was. Oh yeah, if he was an athlete or some shit. Manages that, says some crazy shit about Trump ends up being the VP like yeah

Clearly this guy knows how to make people feel comfortable. That's why I'm asking him when he's with you Is there like a in the pre conversation is he doing things to disarm you? No, no, it's it's all very I think it's very There's there's largely an understanding of of the messaging and the messaging on that campaign was from his perspective pretty tight. Trump was all over the place because Trump can be all over the place. JD Vance was out there going, the elites have destroyed the country. Class war. Class war.

They've betrayed American working people with endless immigration, bad trade deals. The liberals are out of touch socially, culturally with the public. He hit a lot of those notes. I think they were accurate at the time. What the solutions will be is then that's the question. But he understands what was motivating people just like Trump did. I think, you know, and part of me speaking to Steve Bannon, it was very interesting when the Democratic Party became largely a party of college educated coastal, you know, people. There was a pretentiousness.

There was a pretentiousness. He would talk down to people and it didn't mean that there aren't elites all over the place, right? Musk is an elite. All these guys are elites but There was a certain but they're embarrassed about it When you were when you're like a little bit elitist and like the south there's that thing don't put on airs You know that well, there's that but there's also there's a clownishness that almost saves musk from being

He looks retarded at the time. So it's almost like he's, it's not that he's talking down to you, he's crazy. And I think that like, not that, and I haven't said a good word about him recently, but like, there is something about that coastal elite-ism when you talk down to people and you, people just recoil at that. Yeah, yeah, they hate it.

And you can also like see the pendulum swing to the middle. American culture, country music is the most popular form. When we were growing up, it was the heyday of the coasts. What do we call them, flyover states? We really felt it. I don't know if you felt it growing up, but we even felt it in the city. I was from Long Island, so it was a little different. We were a little bit you felt it growing up, but like, we even felt it in the city. Right.

I was from Long Island, so it was a little different. We were a little bit more, it was a half and half. It wasn't even like, Tennessee is a flyover. You're like, oh, you're from the outer boroughs, or you're from, so there was this constant, which I imagine drove people fucking crazy, but I guess maybe there was an aspirational quality too. You're like, I'm gonna get there one day,

or I'm gonna get that crazy house. I think it's a lack of, it was a little bit of a lack of investment in those regions and kind of letting those, shipping their jobs overseas and then letting them kind of fester and not caring about them and then going, why are they all pissed? But I also think like the,

like letting, it's not like, not I'm gonna say letting, but when they dropped interest rates to zero or whatever, and then you have all these tech guys take out loans at 0% and then dump it into the market after the crisis and then make insane amounts of money. I think the rest of America who are financially illiterate like me, you have this feeling, you're going like,

hold on, why are they getting so rich? I'm not getting anything. And you have this runaway train where American excellence and opulence is leaving you behind. So I understand the resentment of that. Yes. And you have to find a way to include those people in it.

Yes, you have to have a country that works for as many people as possible, and you have to have a culture that does. Yeah. That's the other thing. You can't dictate to people deeply personal things and I think that's become apparent. What do you mean by that? Meaning you can't tell people that their children

are the property of the state or the education system and for example, if a seven-year-old feels weird about their gender, you know, having a public school teacher tell them how things work is never gonna make people happy. People really want to parent their children. And I think that the overreach has been creating this,

you know, cultural space where like, you feel like you're losing control of your family values, whatever they happen to be. Just the autonomy of your family. The autonomy of your family to public institutions that you may or may not agree with. And then you're going to naturally resent those public institutions and you naturally resent them. So a lot of it's overreach. It's like it's never enough. No one gets power and goes, I'm good. Yeah. It's always like more. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it happens

on the right. It happens on the left. It's just people want more of the thing that they have. It's just human nature to try to go, oh, it's this way for me the left, it's just people want more of the thing that they have. And just human nature to try to go, oh, it's this way for me, well, it's gonna be this way for you. And I think I've never been interested in that. Our job is a weird job because we're outside a little bit. We just get to make fun of who's in power.

That's right, it's very fun. We get to, well, we also just kinda like, we don't depend on the structures other people depend on. It's in a different way. In a different way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. To me, we're not in a corporate job, I don't know what a human resources meeting is,

I don't know what a educate college, you know, board it. Like, you know, we're just kind of accountable to the people that listen and come to see the show Yeah, so but people that are in those environments Felt this stuff more than I did like a lot of the stuff that was coming in over the last four years They kept having meeting after meeting after meeting Yeah and then they go to a meeting and You would show up to your job and they put you in a meeting and go alright

So tell the whole team the last time you were racist And you'd be sitting there and you know your black colleague would be looking at you like, all right, and smiling because the black people were like, this isn't for us. They were laughing. They're like, this is hilarious. So it's this weird thing. Like I remember DeStefano was on a show. I forget it was like backyard bar wars or something. And then like in the beginning of the Backyard Bar Wars show where they're reviewing Tiki bars built in people's back yard yeah one of the producers was good We said let's have a moment of silence for Asian hate yeah

And you have to kind of stand there, and then they go okay good alright anyway this Tiki bar shit And I'll tell you why Bro every time I'm up in Canada doing it like a show on like native land or whatever, you have to do a land acknowledgement. Right. Have you done this when you're on tour and they get up there and they go, you actually sometimes have to say you're like, this used to be native land or whatever. Yeah. And I always felt like this feels like we're rubbing it in a little like. It's a weird thing when you land in Australia, they're like, we like to give,

you know, we like to acknowledge the past, present and future guardians of the land, the elders, the tribal. And you're like, isn't acknowledging it the least you can do? Like it's just for you. They're not happy with the acknowledgement. It's the least you can do. But we're also living in a time now where it's almost like if, if that's what you want to do, all right. Yeah. I don't, don't leave me alone. Yeah. Leave my money alone. Yeah. That's fine. Yeah if that's what you want to do. All right. Yeah, I don't don't leave me alone Yeah, leave my money alone. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, that's okay. Is that your only idea? We're gonna do that because the next idea is gonna be by the way, where's all your money?

Yeah, and it's not gonna go to help anyone It never does it goes to fund some bullshit thing that you know pays a bunch a bunch of six figure salaries to people to study problems and never solve them. Yeah. But yeah, it's like there is just a certain amount of like, it's like you would say grace and I'm not denigrating grace or religion or whatever, but that's kind of what it feels like. Yeah. It's like you say grace, then you eat. It's like, oh, we landed in Melbourne? Okay, great. We're gonna just say this. Hopefully it's good. Yeah.

Hopefully it's good. It's weird. Do you think that, yeah, I'm trying to think, yeah, like the performative measures, I wonder if that goes away. I wonder if that, with this administration. I think it will go away.

I think a lot of that will probably fade only because it's like, it culture moves quickly. And I think that people are just gonna get bored and of pretending. Yes. And I think- Yeah, there's an exhaustion. There's an exhaustion.

And pretending. It's exhausting. And I think that hopefully where we find ourselves is a nuanced place where people realize the world is complex, people are complex. And we go back, like my dream is to go back to the 90s. My dream is complex, people are complex, and we go back, like my dream is to go back to the 90s. My dream is to go back to like, you're an individual,

you sit on like a clunky big couch, you drink a cappuccino out of a big fish bowl, you listen to music, you tell your friend about it, they don't like it as much as you do. That pisses you off a little bit. You don't let them know that. You think we're too invested in politics now. Not only are we too invested in politics, we're too invested in the collective, in like

my business is your business and you got to do what I say. And to me, that's uninteresting. What's interesting is like figuring out how much you can, you know, develop yourself as a human being. And I think that gets really lost when you're constantly in these collectives with people. That's what I like about LA. LA still, comedically, you go in, you do your spot,

and you kind of just go, thanks, everybody. There's no hang. And you miss that sometimes in New York. I go, there's more of a hang in New York. But sometimes it's really good to not have 20 people in your ear. Sometimes it's good to be like, let me just use my own fucking brain.

And figure out what I think. And figure out what I think, independent, without the social pressure of being, and social media's made that harder. No, that's a good point. Social media, it's created like, in these like digital hangs that are informing your opinions about the world

and there are people who are terrified if their opinion goes against their like hang group or whatever. Right. Yeah, that can, and that's kinda how you saw comedy come up where each scene had a style. Right. And it was kinda like everybody fit within the style. Like I remember when everybody was doing a tell in New York.

Do you remember when everybody sounded like a tell? Yes. There are people listening right now that probably know comedians who came up under a tell that might not even be familiar with a tell. That's right. But they're whatever gremlins off his back or whatever that is. Sure. Yeah, that's that's interesting. Like there's a Colin Quinn school. Yep. There's the Atell School. Patrice School. Patrice School, there's all those different things. It's impossible to not be influenced by people.

I just think right now, it's like there is something nice about just going, like being a product of not a political reality, but of a culture and an environment going like, oh, I'm from Louisiana, we eat this, this is what we believe, we like getting drunk, this is what we value. Not like, oh, I'm a fucking like communist,

socialist, fascist, Marxist, Democrat, Republican, libertarian, okay, yeah, but tell me more about your life. Where'd you come from? I wonder if like, I wonder if, that's more what I'm interested in. Yeah, but that's also probably more your life. Like you're a gay guy who is,

I don't even wanna say you're conservative. What do you consider? No, it's a Nazi. I would say Nazi. Like a gay guy who's a Nazi. To Nazi is really what I, that's kinda what I'm feeling right Nazi. A gay guy who's a Nazi. That's kind of what I'm feeling right now. A gay guy, Nazi, Jew lover.

I like a little Jew money. Gotta watch him. Gotta watch him. There they go. You don't know where Dove is right now. I love the Jews but I feel like it's like a dog in a park. It's like are they getting into something? So that's the thing. Dove is rented out the other half of the studio right now.

To someone else. We're gonna come out, there's three tailors doing pants. There's some one sitting there. But yeah, yeah, I hear what you're saying. Like, your life is probably more individualistic. I have a weird fucking life. Yeah, but I think you embrace that, obviously. I think it's fine.

You're not trying to conform. No. And, uh... I conform to certain degrees, but... Like what? I don't think you conform in the way you dress. I don't think Wild in that shit, but I think we all were all products of like I want to do well Is that conforming? No, maybe not like the people who reject I mean we talked about a little bit

Like the people who reject like wanting to do well or trying or trying it's just like you're afraid of failing and that's okay Like we're all afraid of failing. That's right fail pussy like or trying it's just like you're afraid of failing and that's okay like we're all afraid of failing That's right fail pussy like no, it's okay to try. It's okay to make a sick studio It's okay to also have a sick one in New York. It's like right trying is cool, and we admire that that's right But like doing the trying is gay thing Yeah, I can't wait till culture moves past that like that I think is sure the most un-american thing in the fucking yeah, but I've always thought Interesting people to me are interesting and that's what makes life worth it not

groups of people Or even the political realities of like this way or that way to me It's like I like to meet a person who's fucking weird Mm-hmm and like one idea doesn't correspond to the other and you had you get there from there But are you getting that in LA? I feel like there's I feel like the no is like the epitome of group think out here Yeah, it's a star-driven town. Yeah, everybody gravitates to the heat I feel like New York is a little bit more where the misfits can kind of York is more unique thrive New York is more unique, but I'll give LA this as it craters to earth like a asteroid. Yeah, it will develop more of that

Yeah, it will develop more of that it from for a long time. It had the cockiness. Yeah And now it doesn't it's kind of interesting now. It's depressing and horrible But there is something interesting about seeing a town like this get really humbled Yeah, and the people here are not... There's bad vibes everywhere. You go to a coffee shop, all these people, they just feel bad. They know they're writing a script no one will ever read. They know they're in a relationship with someone who doesn't love them. They know that being fake doesn't even help anymore.

They know that it doesn't even matter the bullshit political stuff you post on social media because nobody even cares They know that none of it matters anymore. They're simply going through the motions and go to Pilates. They walk out Yeah, they know the homeless are barely into it now, you know the homeless with the knife. It's like barely chasing everybody is I think going through the motions here and it's interesting and nobody's not good though like LA had LA people I mean American general runs on the idea that everybody's gonna be millionaire Yes, LA runs on the idea that everybody's gonna be famous and the second they stop thinking they'll be famous

Yeah, when shit gets a little rough. That's when the cults start. Yeah, and that's why I'm still here Yeah, are you waiting for the cult? I will put 50 people in a backyard Don't think I will not put 50 people in a backyard The culture we are right on the edge of a of a thriving cult environment here The conditions are ripe. Yeah, the conditions are right. If you are a 20 year old actor Yeah, let me help you if you're a male, you know, we're not gonna do the females in the cult. It distracts it Let me help you. If you're a male, we're not going to do the females in the cult. It distracts it.

So it's a male cult of people in their early 20s who have dedicated their life to fitness and acting. And if it's not working out, there's other places we can go vibrationally with energy. Vibrationally with energy. But no, there's going to be cults. I'm telling you my prediction, you say, what's going to happen in LA? Vassal state of China with the real estate because they're going to come in by all the real estate and then cults as far as the eye can see.

I mean, you want to call like you. I mean, call like these fuckers will be in the backyard of a coffee shop in a thought circle. There'll be rampant meditation. Some will go into Islam., bitches will have burkas walking around WeHo, they are going to find, this is going to be, it's like Scientology had the whole monopoly on culture for a long time,

but now it's like in Chicago, they bulldozed this big project, Cabrini Green, and what happened was you had lots of smaller gangs. They put all the people that had ran that for a long time in jail. So then all the younger guys were like, we'll all just start a gang on every street. And then it got crazy. That's going to be cults in LA. I believe the future is cults. Like this. Because people, the cult was fame. The cult was sex, the cult was money.

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They go to commune with these entities and these entities get the board That's a little bad thing with the ayahuasca and shit it seems like this quick fix you're depressed so you just want to connect First of all ayahuasca was not invented so you could get a rain drover. That's not what the Incans were doing these ceremonies. It was not so you could strategize how to get a walk on roll on hack season

four. It was so that you could commune with elders that had left the physical reality that you were in. It was all point. That's so funny. So all these people take it. If you're trying to do it, I was going to get a job. No, if your shaman is named Jessica, she's not a shaman. She's a white chick from Phoenix. You're a junkie. You're a junkie. You're doing ketamine therapy, you're a junkie. And there's nothing wrong with it. Just admit it. We get it. Yeah. So people go to Joshua Tree, it's pretty and whatever, but they're going there to have some experience.

But I see people from LA like treating it as their like getaway. Their two-hour getaway. I want to say it's the Hamptons. Because look at it. This is what they want. Look at that. It's not a nice getaway. Their two hour getaway. I don't want to say it's the Hamptons. This is what they want. Look at that. It's not a nice getaway. It's called Iraq. Bagram Air Force Base.

They go out there and they take a bunch of psychedelics and then they communicate with some entity and the entity goes, it's the entity so tired at this point and they're because the entity is in the realm and the the entities like hello and then you're like ETA is kind of They're kind of hip pocketing me and the entity goes you're not bringing anything to the table. There's nothing for you and No, it listen. It's a town about making the unbelievable believable. She got to go into the desert and take a bunch of drugs. Hmm That's okay. Yeah, that's okay Nothing wrong with it. No, nothing wrong with it. That's okay. Yeah. That's okay. Nothing wrong with it. No.

Nothing wrong with it. That's where I got banned from Airbnb. I can never rent an Airbnb in my life. I cannot put a property I own on Airbnb because of the two lesbians in Joshua Tree. Still to this day. To this day. And have you had any communication? I had Rogan ask the CEO.

He's like, no, we're not putting it back on. Wow. I'm going to change that for you. I would love that. But I also say a lot of negative things about Airbnb and we'll continue to. Alright, well I might not change that for you. Yeah. What is this? What is that?

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Is this a joke? is it a sketch? Enjoy the serenity and peacefulness of Joshua tree and it might be a polarizing thing for many people So close we're getting right with the sketches and the actual promotional material. You know, I don't know what it is I love that they put up shroom wallpaper. They're like we've created a sanctuary people out here are different and That's the problem. What else have you been plugged into? Recently? Yeah. I'm really interested in the,

what I'm really interested in now actually is like the people that are obsessed with living forever. Oh yeah. And like super foods and like the way they're all trying to hack immortality. Obviously there's that Brian Johnson or whatever his name is, who's like taking his son's blood. But there's also a lot of other like cottage industries popping up right now to just increase more to like people that are just like, I'm, I want to do it forever.

Yeah. So that's kind of interesting to me. That's the ultimate hubris to me is that you'll beat death. Yeah. That's fun to me. I like that. I like when human beings get silly and it's a little silly to me to go, I'm going to beat death.

That's a fun one. I like that. That's a joke. I know a guy who was a producer and now he's up in Santa Barbara area and he's doing superfood stuff to try to like hack, bio hack immortality and like, you know, live to 130. So it's interesting. That stuff is fun to me.

Yeah, I sat down with the Brian guy. What did you think about him? I thought he was interesting, like he believes it. Like that's the thing with a lot of these guys, like whether it's, you know, aliens or like, there's certain people who they don't believe it, but they're making money on it. And then there's certain people who believe it,

even though we might believe they're crazy. That's right. And I like the people who believe it a little bit more, because now they're not con artists. It's kind of nice. So I don't think he's a con artist, but he is like, I think he was a pretty devout Mormon that went through some crazy shit.

I think he's kind of replacing that, the void that leaving the religion has created has maybe been filled with I'm gonna live forever and help everybody else live forever. That's right. Interesting. I also think there's like, there's virtue in it. Sure.

Like I'm gonna help everybody else be healthy and I'm gonna. Well there's also, it's a way to give yourself a purpose Yeah, and the discipline and a that's what I think a lot of people in life lack his purpose and this is well, yeah, you gotta you gotta We we tell people you gotta get rich gonna do this gonna do that, whatever. But we should be telling people that they should develop genuine interests.

And those interests may or may not correspond to financial gain. And those are two different things. But you should be a person who has interest and cares about things and has hobbies and has a full life. And you don't have to be rich, you don't have to be, you know, it's nice to have more money than less. Yeah. But like, you know, I think what happens is it almost feels weird to me. This guy goes, I want to live forever.

But what about the quality of life? Yeah. What exact for what? Yeah, that's that's a question. That's what we asked. It was just like, is this worth it? Like you might live forever, but the life seems horrible. It seems odd to just wanna live forever without a purpose. Yeah.

I understand people that go, I wanna live forever because I'm finally gonna do this thing. And when I, there should be something that you can accomplish where then you go, and now I'm ready to die. Yeah. If there isn't life has absolutely no meaning. If there's not one mountain to climb,

you know what I mean? There's gotta be something you can say. Where you go, I did it. I did it. I'm cool even now. I'm good. I'm good. At the end of the day, there's gotta be something there.

Yeah, what about the people that don't have an interest? I think that's the tricky thing about, I guess, maybe, I don't know, if it's like the dreamer culture in America is like not everybody got a fucking dream. No, of course. And then they feel like losers when they don't have a dream.

Those people, I think, can be the happiest people in the world if they not only accept that, but then they have to develop, because not everyone has a dream or a purpose, and that's cool, but everybody has things they like. Exactly, yeah. Things they like. Yeah, but everybody has things they like exactly So yeah things they like yeah But if but here if the thing you like doesn't make you money then you're just like a loser with a hobby when in reality

You could be the happiest person on the planet. You'd be the happiest person on the planet. Yeah, there are people I know who just for whatever reason have a few things they like yeah, and their lives are have a few things they like, and their lives are arranged around how often they can do those things. And some of those things are narcotics. Some of those things are cheating on their life. And you can't tell me they're not the happiest people. Some of those things are marital infidelity.

Some of them are narcotics. Some of them are driving under the influence whatever you're doing I know but I do think you got to arrange your life You know what like I friends that just love to like to trap travel to me And this is a take that people get mad at me for is the most overrated thing the no why I'll tell you why I always have a reason you never have to ask why no I think is the most overrated thing the least intelligent people I know are the most well-traveled all the time I think you probably are the exception most people who travel feel that it is a substitute for having a genuine personality a genuine

Perspective genuine takes they never spend long enough in a place to learn anything valuable. It is the aesthetic of going, taking a few photos, throwing them up on social media. For example, my grandmother lived in the same town for 50 years, went to one or two different countries. There were 200 people at her funeral. I guarantee she had a fuller life and knew more about the world from watching that town change over 50 years than somebody who takes photos. We know comics and they'll be like when I was in Kuala Lumpur and I'm like, you're homeless. I know that you traveled there but now. So yeah, you're talking about like

Instagram travel for sure. A little bit of that. Yeah. Listen, you're doing that. You're performing. I know that you traveled there, but no. So yeah, you're talking about like Instagram travel, for sure. A little bit of that, yeah. Listen, you're performing for people, you're doing something in the country. I like traveling in general, but I also have like a real curiosity about these places that I go to.

So there's certain places I'm gonna go around like, this looks like an awesome fucking hotel. Like, the Amans are the best hotels I've ever been to in my entire life. Great, great. Unbelievable. And, but outside of that, like just going to these different places Like, the Amman's are the best hotels I've ever been to in my entire life. They're unbelievable. And, but outside of that, like, just going to these different places has been fantastic.

But I'm like a nerd about travel. Like, I get like a tour guide to take me around the city and teach me everything about that city. I'm in Istanbul with a tour guide, me and my wife, and we're just walking around and then I'm asking questions or writing notes. Sure. So, okay, if that's what you do,

well that's terribly annoying. It seems horrible, and I'm sure that it drives my wife crazy at times, but for me, like if I'm diving, like when I went to Japan, right, everybody goes to Japan, they're like, oh my God, it's the best place in the world. Japan is torture to me. It is absolute fucking torture.

This is gonna, people are gonna hate this, but. Yeah, because they don't understand life, like that's why. It is. People are gonna hate this but. Yeah because they don't understand life. Like that's why. I've never been, you could be right. You'll have the best pizza you've ever had in your entire life. You'll have the best steak you've ever had in your entire life.

They're done with their culture. Now they're just refining other culture shit. And they have this like beautiful cultural specificity where they have to make everything perfect. There's a shame in them. Like you know how everybody in America turns 30 and they wanna be a DJ? There's no shame in us. Like you know how everybody in America turns 30 and they want to be a DJ? There's no shame in us. Right. We have no shame to do something mediocre. I know. Matter of fact, it's to the not try hard

thing we were talking about earlier. They have seppuku, they kill themselves. If they're not, I know. I would rather be dead than the shame. Yeah. Right. Now, what they have is there is no love in the culture at all. Okay. So you go there for a few days, you take your pictures and you're like, oh, this is awesome You see the little harajuki girls and stuff like that You don't really notice much and then you leave and you're like Japan is the coolest place ever That you don't see a sink women stop aging at 13 years old. They're not allowed to be Elegant and beautiful they can be cute

You go to every any fucking clothing store there every skirt is at their fucking knee or they're dressed like a cartoon character. Like it is, I've been to a bunch of places, it's by far the most sexist place I've ever seen in my entire life and like oppressively sexist. I don't even know if a single woman in Japan has had an orgasm with a Japanese dude. Okay. Because it's just not part of like, oh we need to do that. Right. I was speaking to these women they were like we went out to eat with a couple people and're like, it's the most absurd thing you've ever seen. Like, dating here is unbelievably painful. They gotta develop cultural mechanisms

for them to meet people now. Like knocking on a wall. A lot of people just go to the sex cafe and jerk off with the cat. They've just, they've like, but that's what they're doing. And I think that's good, actually. But they've like, yeah, they've, what is it called?

They've like monetized every little aspect of culture that you can eat. Oh, you need a nap? Here's a nap. Like there's no just like a free willingness that you might have in like in Italy or even like the Caribbean, this natural love. You have a kid around and everybody starts coming around

and saying hi and pinching the kids cheeks in this fucking love. So I'm in it, I got scolded. Me and my wife are in like an underground illegal bar, and I kiss my wife and the bartender scolds it. We're in an illegal bar. And she says you're not allowed to kiss your wife? The dude. The bartender. Wow.

So it's just this, we have this idea of it and they have a beautiful thing, you're gonna have the best of the best, but if you're- Is there honor? In what? I don't know, it feels like an honor-bound culture, it's honor. Yeah, I feel like people say that, but like honor for what? It's like, I don't know, you're saying there's no love. Zero love.

What'd you say? Zero love. But is maybe there, is what we're recognizing is love, like the ooey gooey American kissy-huggy love, do they have honor instead of love? I think the better word is sacrifice. And I think that the culture is built around sacrificing like what you want.

Like maybe we're the complete opposite where we don't wanna sacrifice at all. What makes me feel good? Give it to me, inject it into me. And just seeing, yeah, just seeing it, it was like really hard to be in. Can you play this? Play this moment.

I wanna hear what she, this is kind of interesting. I've never been, so I think you... You have dated American person, right? Yes, yes. I've been in a relationship with American people. Dating culture in Japan, in the States, any differences? Yes, I would say my Japanese ex boyfriend, I had to assume a lot of things because they are not really communicative. So we assume something, you know, testing the water. But like in America, you have to say whatever you have to say. I learn myself a lot through the relationship because sometimes I have to bring up something that I don't feel comfortable with. My ex-boyfriend said something that makes me feel uncomfortable.

But because of that, I get to learn about myself a lot. So you're open to date Japanese person or date American person? Or do you have any preference right now after dating both? I don't think I have preferences, but I would say at least showing interest in Japanese culture or Japanese language would be really big for me. Or like Japanese people who speak both languages because I'm bilingual. I don't really see myself feeling super comfortable only speaking Japanese anymore. I like to mix the language, you know. It doesn't really matter they're Japanese American, but if they're bilingual or biculture,

I feel more comfortable being around them. They're coming on board, bro. Yeah, they want the Americans. It is interesting, where would you say your favorite place that you've gone is? You've now just destroyed Japan as a loveless place. Also we went to like Kyoto, that's another thing, is like a Disney world like people like love it's like Oh, it's ancient Japanese. You have these little geisha girls walking around it feels so performative nonsense bullshit It's like interesting people love it though, so they love it because they don't

Right, I'm not disagreeing. I just have never loved it like they love Austin like you don't really love it First of all Austin's greatest city in the world. Okay. I agree completely I like it's amazing like it's great Well, I like here's what I like you come from a place that doesn't have a restaurant and then you move there you're like Oh my god, I like trees are dead in all of the season. Yeah, that's the beautiful thing about it Because I want to see life sometimes trees have leaves and then they go away, but in Austin. They're just always always dead I like it and it's too windy to eat outside Oh tomato fell out of my salad because of the wind it hit me on the chest. Well that's where we should eat out.

You're down one tomato, but you're also down listeria, which you would have gotten from it. You know that's a good point. Yeah, you're assuming I didn't eat it. The produce is not washed. You're assuming. It's from Mexico. It's unwashed. It's good though. It is good. Best place? Best place. I mean it depends what you want, but like like indulgence, France, 100%. Yeah, South of France, I love the South of France. South of France is amazing. And it's like, whatever, pretend you're saying, I don't give a fuck.

You love Italy? I love Italy. But I also, like for different reasons, like the French are like, hey listen, we are done with anything that is inconvenient to us. It gotta smell the best, it's gotta taste the best, it's gotta feel the best, the bed has to be the most comfortable. I'm not going to be inconvenienced in any way.

I have to work how many days? We're not going to do that. The whole culture is built around make me feel good in the moment. So if you want to go someplace for three days and feel fucking good, it's south of France. You can go there, it's very nice. Italy, amazing obviously, just like raw passion about everything Turkey you love the history yeah, Turk. That's like that's some cool shit if you want to get into the history I think that's a cool shit. Italy you love the You know what's Italy was surprising

Dessert ass yeah, cuz they use oil and not cream. You're such a you're a culture for a guy who doesn't travel You're a real culture guys to stand whom I love Stop with this whatever you're doing there I've given you 50 suggestions about what desserts to do and they still bring out like Nona's olive oil Can you can you break this down to the people out here who might not understand? Just because the pasta and the sauce and these things are delicious doesn't mean you've understood dessert. Remove the ego of the olive oil. We get it, it's good for your fucking heart or some shit. Get it out of there.

It's dessert. We're not caring about our heart. When I choose dessert, I'm... You know, their whole thing I think is a little...Termesue, gelato, but it's not, you know... But look, you've named the two things that got cream. That's two things with cream. Everything else is not good. If it doesn't have milk in it, we don't wanna have it for dessert. And by the way, here's the other thing. I have, you know, are you a guy that says Italian food

is in Italy, how much better is it than an American? I don't like this idea that it's like that much better. That's what I agree with you. This is the other thing where it's like, we often say things that like people will agree with us. I agree. And then it's like, we often say things that people will agree with us. It's like the idea that New York doesn't have comparable food. It's psychotic.

What I will say is the regular mom and pop restaurant on the side of the road in Italy is better than the regular. But if you're going to elite Italian, honestly it's probably better in New York. It might be a crazy take but it might be better in New York. It might be a crazy take, but it might be better in New York. New York's your favorite city. Yeah.

It is the best in the world. But it is the best in that it's not even like an argument. I agree. I'm not arguing with you. But what would be the argument against it? That's what I'm trying to understand. Knowing that you can go out east if you want to. There's a certain feeling in July When you dip into Lake Austin

In the green in the greenness and the brain eating amoeba swims up your nose and attaches your brain Yeah, 48 hours to live. Yeah, and you spend that 48 hours on 6th Street watching horse fights. Cops on horses fight with people and paralyze frat kids who are fighting. It's just something special about it. It's 190 degrees. And they're just having a nice refreshing slab of brisket. Oh, I mean, that's the perfect food. What is 190 degrees?

Yeah. I mean, it's, it's no, I listen. Respect. I like Dallas and I like Houston and Austin. You know, it's, no, listen, respect, I like Dallas and I like Houston. And Austin, you know, we have our things. I like The Visit. We like comedy. I love Joe.

I love comedy. If we didn't love comedy, we wouldn't love it. We love comedy. We love Joe. It's a good place for comedy. We love to do comedy and we love our friends, our brethren that does comedy. Does this look fun?

This looks insane here. It just looks like a, you know, the fights on the street, it's a melee. Yeah. It's a melee. It you know, the fights on the street, it's a melee. It's a melee. It's fun when you're 19. Yeah, it's like when you, it's like somebody took New Orleans and was like, hey, how about no culture? We'll just do this.

I've said the exact same thing. It's a cleaner New Orleans. And what's nice about New Orleans is it's dirty. It's dirty. It's interesting. And it's cool. It's cool. Yeah, it's history. Yeah's dirty. It's interesting and it's cool. It's cool. It's history. Yeah, I like I like New Orleans

Where's a guy like you think about? Do you ever think of you know a lot of New Yorkers have like a spot in the Garden District and live in New Orleans But that's too much like occasionally going down. Maybe I mean, I just like it. Maybe it's a visit Too many actors. I know have done it. It just feels too. It's like it's hack now. You're saying it just feels a little It's just I know it's a certain type of person who's doing it. Yeah, you know yeah, I just like you like I Don't like I feel like it is large like when I lived in Texas I was like they don't want us here, and I don't want to be here And it's not because they have a culture that I respect and I actually like I

Like Texans I love Texasans and I love their culture and I feel good visiting and appreciating it. I don't want to pretend to be it. Yeah, what I talk about is like when we have these conversations where people start pretending it's like on the level of global cities as like Paris or Mexico City. It's crazy, psychotic.

People, yeah. Maybe in 400 years, maybe we'll be there. I just, you know, I like cultures to be their thing and Maybe we'll be there. I like I just you know I I like cultures to be their thing and I like to appreciate I like to go to Paris and go man I I appreciate this culture, but I'm not gonna go there and put on a beret Yeah, we don't that's the thing we don't need to do that I think everyone's got and if you feel genuinely like that is your culture down there then God bless you And I respect you and love you guys be ready when she needs it and get your first month of blue chew for free great

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St. Bart's have you done the same Bart's I never have I've seen you do it I've never done it and this I'm I'm like I'm sure they've gotten it right And I again I tell you said like, I'm sure they've gotten it right. And again, I'll tell you, when I experience something, I'm not on some gatekeeper shit. I love being the guy who has nothing, not nothing, obviously I have good stuff, but compared to these billionaire motherfuckers. I like going to their shit

and then just telling everybody about it and then ruining it. So. I like you to go, I'd like to be a guy that has nothing. You're like a famous multi-millionaire. I like to be a guy that has nothing. Compared to them, you have nothing. And just finds myself. No, I mean, I could never, my family would never be able to that has nothing. You're like a famous multi-millionaire. I like to be a guy that has nothing. Compared to them, you have nothing. And just finds myself.

No, I mean, like, I could never, like, my family would never be able to go to St. Barts or something like that. No, of course. But then. Look at it, stunning. Pretty. It's interesting. So this island, right, it's actually kind of fucked up. But like, all the islands in Caribbean had, like,

people there, right? Yeah. And here's the one that, like, miraculously didn't. Right. I wonder where they went. Right. Anyway, like, Norway owns it or something like that. Yeah. Then France. Right. I wonder where they went. Right. Anyway, like Norway owns it or something like that, then France gets it, and France just goes, yo, we're gonna make south of France on this island,

but there's no indigenous population, so we don't gotta feel bad about like oppressing a group of people who already live here and like eliminating their culture. So they just made south of France on this island so that when it's cold and they can't be in south of France. They go there. They go there. I gotta try it, I've never been, it's really pretty. can't be in south of France they go there they go there I gotta try it. I've never been it's all you this you would love it also like the people they're obviously all like

I'm sure all your fans notice now But like the elites love you and you like roast them more than anybody on the planet But they fucking love you for some reason maybe it's like a self-loathing or something. Thank God Well, I have no power to do anything to them, but they love you or something. Thank God. Well, I have no power to do anything to them. But they love you. I'm not Lena Kahn who's gonna anti-trust, break up their companies. Like, yeah, let this idiot with sunglasses say whatever he wants. Every time I go to Polo Bar in New York City, the whole staff is like, yo, when is Timmy coming in? That's very sweet of the staff. And I keep telling them. Yeah. That you're gonna come and then what happens? No, I never go, I should go.

Yeah. I have my weird spots, I'm a creature of habit, and I go to like a few places. I feel like you really like that. You like a wasp. I would love it. You like a wasp culture. It's important.

It's important we have people who don't cry and are stoic, and that we need a little bit of that. Do the Jews in the Northeast wanna be wasps? Some of them, but not really. I think that the wasp culture is the American culture, and people don't like to hear that, but it is very much the American culture of privacy, minding your business.

It's not the Irish Catholic culture. The culture that I come from is like wailing and screaming and crying and singing and fighting and all this. The Wasp culture is like stoic, Calvinist, Protestant, like shut up, own your house, keep your shit clean, don't be ostentatious Like yeah, don't drive a dumb car like me. Don't wear these dumb It is the way it is very much the American culture and then it's fun to have these little enclaves that are not that

Beverly Hills and this and that but the wasp culture is the American culture and like Tori birch is a lives out in South Hamden She's a Jew that has become a wasp. But I feel like Ralph Lauren is another version of this. He's another one. He's another one. I feel like almost like we grew up in New York City and there's a perception that those cultures have molded into one another. But we also have the loudest and most Jewish people ever

in New York. Got it, where you would say that the Wasp would look at that and be like, eh, you're causing a scene, why are you making a big deal about this? It's just the wasp things there's a few places that they dwell and they're it's like the end tuck it and you know There's a cod or whatever Yeah, and even this part to the hamptons like the South Hampton bathing Corp is very waspy but the rest of South Hampton isn't and the Hamptons has kind of been colonized and taken over and

You know, there's a little bit in the Berkshires the wasp culture But like the wasp culture and there's a little bit, you know a little bit in in Northern California Santa Barbara or whatever and there's you know, a little bit around Georgia Sea Island places like that Palm Beach Yeah, but it's dying it is time But I feel like the Jews have like embraced it and marketed it better than the wasps ever could like yeah They figured out how to sell it and you sell like it's amazing wasps that I talked to talk about this became drunks and They didn't and they had these fortunes that they were living off of and they all went to these elite boarding schools and their parents had fortunes not

billion dollar fortune some of them were but a lot of them were like a lot of money, just enough money to not try hard and not really work. And a lot of these people just retired to Maine or wherever and just kind of like moved into their summer houses and didn't keep didn't keep pace with Jewish people and Arabs and the Chinese, who now are the big money players. Sorry, Irish, not you. Yeah, so there's just not enough ambition in it, you're saying? Yeah, it's like the old Spanish empire living off the largesse of having gold and stuff. It's like just not having to innovate

and just kind of becoming decrepit. I think part of that is the story of the American wasp. A lot of them, you know, the government was a lot of wasps. There was a lot of wasps at the CIA and Scullum Bones and a lot of them went into politics and they went into the machinery of government. And there are some great fortunes there, but not nearly as many and none of them are new. A lot of the new fortunes are the new IPOs, and a lot of that, that's not WASPs. They're in very traditional modes of making money, which is like banking and real estate insurance.

It's kind of boring. They're not as likely to be in tech or any of the, you know, kind of the new money plays. It's weird, like, it's almost like the generational wealth in America, like in other countries, they would just like own sugar. Right. Like what the generational wealth in America like in other countries. They would just like own sugar Right like what happened to that in America like I thought all the rich people just owned the most it called a commodity Resources in America can be produced cheaply other places so those families lost their competitive advantage

Well, they also don't want to pay Americans to do it So they're like why are we gonna pay Americans to work at these places when we can we can ship all of this stuff? And that's a lot of what JD Vance and these guys are talking about now. How they're you know, these tariffs. It's a long play to bring back manufacturing. There's going to be a lot of blood in the water. It's a long play. But the reality is, you know, people that don't have jobs and, you know, because they worked in those those sectors of the economy,

manufacturing being the primary one that we're talking about have been the beneficiaries of very cheap products and goods, but it still hasn't given their lives purpose and meaning they don't have that job, they don't have that community, those communities got hollowed out, those factories got shipped overseas. So I think that that's a big reason that,

and you're correct to notice that, that like where is that pride in American ownership or American made stuff? We don't really have it, we just have pride in the result, the money and however it's made. So it is interesting. I mean, this is a very interesting thing.

That's why if you own assets, if you own real estate or stocks, you've made a lot of money over the past 50 years because all those things have gone way up. Bonds, all that. If you're somebody who makes money on a W-2, if you're a wage employee, you haven't seen your wages increase.

So, and things have gotten more expensive. So you're getting fucked, but the people that own stuff aren't. So I think that's the challenge is to try to balance that out. Tell me about Steve Bannon. Very interesting guy. Was a rich guy, made a lot of money,

has been saying, he's like Bernie Sanders in a sense, they've been saying the same thing for 30 years. Whether you like him or hate him. Does he want to help? Does he want to just cause a ruckus? No, I think he wants to help. I think that, I wouldn't agree with him on all, down the line, everything,

but I think he understands overall the idea that we've created a situation with China that seems untenable, meaning that we've put ourselves in this position with Taiwan, with these chips, with China, where we are vulnerable in ways that people don't imagine we are. And I think he's recognized that outsourcing all of our manufacturing, having 90% of our antibiotics made over there and things like that,

have made us vulnerable in ways that people don't think we are. And, you know, and this idea, the trade-off of like, hey, but the shirts are cheap at Walmart isn't a trade-off that makes sense to him and It would make sense to other people. There's smart people on the other side that says no it is better and here's why We have a service sector go be a bartender or something. I don't know Steve Bannon's whole point is when you take the manufacturing core out of the country and

The whole point is when you take the manufacturing core out of the country and you replace it with a gig economy of people driving Ubers and Dordas and Lyft, all of those people are going to need some form of government assistance because their lives have been kind of immiserated by these conditions of like not being able to have a steady income at a job. And I think he says, you know, he goes, that is a big problem.

Now the people that make a lot of money from importing people to come into America to cut grass and do nails and babysit your kids and tutor your kids and the tech guys who like to bring these visas, there's indentured servants and you put five guys in a room and go, just code. I don't wanna pay America.

Steve Bannon, who everyone calls a racist, was the only person I've ever said, I've never heard anyone say there should be more black and Hispanic people in tech and it's a crime that there's not. That's a Steve Bannon quote. That's a Steve Bannon quote. So is America first from Bannon? Is he the?

I think so. I think he's the one, I think he's the guy that put that political philosophy into perspective in a very eloquent way. There's very few people that have done it the way he's done it. How does he feel about the current administration? He's very skeptical as I am about a lot of the tech people.

He thinks they're using Trump. He thinks they were Democrats till about five minutes ago. It seems like they were. And then they all became Republicans, and they all have tons of money. He likens them to oligarchs. I think he's absolutely right. And a lot of them want to go to Mars or put chips in people.

A lot of them are transhumanists. And their goals are pretty radical when measured against what American people are talking about right now, which is like better wages or healthcare or whatever the case may be. A lot of people are not super invested in going to Mars. So I think Bannon thinks they're laundering their, what they want, the Bezos, Andres and Musk,

Bezos, Zuckerberg people are laundering their true intentions through this America first thing. And now they're all like, hey, I like bow hunting and I think we should be less woke or whatever. But then it's like, no, the end game for these guys is to just suck money out of the government the way the big financial institutions did in 2008, when they put a gun to the head of George W. Bush and said, we need trillions of dollars or this whole market collapses. He thinks that that moment is coming where the tech people go, we need a Marshall Plan. We need all of this tax revenue

so that we can go compete with China with AI because the deep sea thing came out. And if it is to be believed that that is true, we are behind in AI, We're losing to them with TikTok They have a much more addictive algorithm the biggest app in the last five years of Chinese app So we're losing to them So he thinks the tech people are gonna go and put a gun to Trump's head and go we need Trillions of dollars now and that is gonna be financed by the taxpayers if the tech

CEOs say we need trillions of dollars, is their goal benevolent in that they want to beat China in this AI race or is that a Trojan horse so they could just funnel that money and power it to themselves? It's a little bit of both. I think they do want to be competitive, but they're also, they've become the wealthiest people

that have ever lived. They're probably gonna be trillionaires very soon. And the country is suffering from a tremendous amount of wealth inequality. And that's driving people to political extremism, to fentanyl addiction, to our cities, a lot of them are unlivable. These are problems.

And I think Bannon recognizes that you can't have, you know, five trillionaires deciding the fate of humanity. They also wanna merge with AI, they wanna get rid of human beings. They wanna put chips in us that will significantly alter your humanity so that you can compete with AI. They want the end of the human race.

I mean, that's truly what they want. They don't really even disguise that. So Bannon's a devout Catholic. I'd probably disagree with him on a few things, some I wouldn't, but I do think that he's very interested in human beings staying human. And so do you think he's been given an unfair shake by media?

For sure, I mean, listen, I think everyone will always be. Right. I don't even think it's worth even noting, I mean listen, everyone is gonna be given an unfair shake. I give people an unfair shake. It's what the job of any of us to do, because a fair shake would be like oh, I'm your friend Those are all human beings and contain multitudes or whatever I give Gavin Newsom an unfair shake, right?

I just know that the fucking beach. I like to go to the beach. It's all fucking burnt. Yeah So I think we all give each other an unfair shake He's talking about issues. No one's really talking about that are the most interesting things, which is the future of human beings and everyone's avoiding that in five years when you you know, I'm literally taking what he said verbatim, but when people go there's only so many openings at Harvard Yale Dartmouth, whatever and Do you give your kid the chip and give them the advantage? and These are really interesting questions.

And do you chip, you know, maybe not yourself, maybe you go, I'm gonna ride this out as a human being, but fuck it, my kids are gonna have the competitive advantage. I mean, they're already kind of doing that with Adderall or whatever is different. I mean, it is a massive advantage. Yeah.

Have you ever taken Adderall? Yeah, yeah. Like, as an adult, I never took it when I was younger and struggling to pay attention while taking the fucking SATs and doing the reading section. It's a huge advantage. So that's the question that I think the big questions that are coming up now.

Where do we go? The most interesting thing right now, it's not Russia, the Ukraine, it's not Israel, Palestine. It is and always has been China. This will be the most interesting Do you believe the deep seek? I? Don't know. I don't know enough about it. I know it's very smart people some of them Believe that it's exaggerated didn't they open source it didn't they come out and say hey look at yeah

Yeah, some of them believe it's slightly exaggerated and some of them believe no It's a it's a sputnik moment like it's a real thing that is we are we are way behind hmm, and I don't know enough for us to create the chips here It might be a pretty stupid question, but like supposedly from what I understand. It's half art half technology. You've got to have a highly specialized training to do it and again everybody here wants to put their pussy on the street and Be famous and beyond, you know, it's the you know, I mean, I think that it's just, we haven't steered people into that. But there must be some sort of hardware that they have in

Taiwan that they haven't been able to replicate here. Yeah, I think we could do some of it, but I mean, it would just be, it's the same kind of question where it's like, could they set up Wall Street in another city? Of course. But it's just been Wall Street forever. It's like there's more that goes into it than people realize, right? Like I think it's part cultural, it's part economic,

it's part, you know, there's all kinds of things that go into the development of any industry. Could you move it to another place? Absolutely. Is Austin gonna be Hollywood? Absolutely not. Hollywood will either not exist, but it will never be that.

Yes. Will a few comedians get really, really big? Absolutely, and that's great. You cannot transfer an entire, the movie business will just die. It's not going to Texas. Renee Zellweger. Doesn't mean that Texas is a bad place.

It means that- They'll make some films, they're like they may come in Atlanta, but it's not gonna be an entire city that is revolving around. It's not. And then maybe they'll never be another city that revolves around it again. But it won't be that you can't pick up an entire industry and just airdrop it into Bastrop, Texas and go, good luck.

Yeah. It's not the way it works. Culture develops over a very long time You know what I mean? And I think that like that's the whole thing and I think that the China US collision course is the most interesting And you think it's all gonna be AI based. I Think it's gonna be Fighting for tech supremacy. I think it's gonna be satellite supremacy Fighting for the supremacy of satellites. I think we're blowing our satellites out of the fucking air. I think we's gonna be satellite supremacy fighting for the supremacy of satellites

I think we're blowing our satellites out of the fucking air. I think we're blowing theirs out I think they're blowing ours out. I think some of those drones were them I Have good I have good sources on some of those drones being them not all of them some of them being them They're deaf. They did the hot air balloons or whatever so why would of course I think some of those drones with them I think They are incredibly capable and I think so are we yeah good news is so are we we've got our version of the spy balloons We've got our version of of the spy balloons We just don't have an ability to influence culture over there like they do here. They shut it down. Yeah I just intelligently so and they also shut down like the tech, the tech guys I feel.

But they weirdly need us, so it's interesting. There's a dependency on our consumption. Yeah. But there's also our dependency on their creation. So we're all in this bed together. Which is kind of good. So why we keep acting like there's like a war impending if we both need each other.

Because there probably is. Like you actually think hot war? No, I believe China feels that if they've fired a shot and ban it talks about this, that they have lost. They believe in insidious methods of warfare, infiltrating societies, corporate espionage. Is far more effective. Far more effective, that could also mean outages

and electromagnetic pulse attacks, more effective that could also mean you know outages and you know like Electromagnetic pulse attacks things that are hard to trace to them things that will just make society more chaotic But I feel like you can even do that more effectively and subversively through the social media stuff like all of that Yeah owning like I never thought about how powerful like our social media is in disseminating sexy, sugary American culture throughout the world. And now that China, let's assume China has control of the algorithm and they can feed different communities what they need to feed, you can sow more civil unrest.

To me, that's way more effective than a power outage. Just get people in America hating America. Well that's absolutely, they're absolutely doing that. And I think they'll also look at attempts to hack a grid or whatever and I think they're also looking at corporate espionage and they're also, I mean I think it's all over the place. Okay so what about this idea?

Every American is born, the government puts $10,000, $2,000 or whatever the fuck it is in the S&P 500 for them so basically open up a Vanguard account yeah right so now every single American born is immediately invested and they can't take it on to their 22 or something like that immediately invested in the success of American industry right so now those like CEOs that are making all that money and that you're furious at and you hate that they're taking money from the regular people, now you're actually almost rooting

for them because the better those companies do, the better your portfolio does. Now you're invested in the success of America. Yeah. I don't hate the idea of people getting some of that. I just want people to be invested in the success. You might mean test it. What does that mean? Meaning like, there's a lot of people

who don't need that two grand. Even better, like do it for the people who are less fortunate, obviously. But like, to me the most important thing is this huge swath of people that have kind of been forgotten about post the financial crisis. The question is what would two grand do

in that span of time? Or ten grand. And by the way, I'm not against that idea at all. Compound interest. I think the average American myself included, I'm like financially illiterate. I didn't know what compound interest was in the effective. I just had money like sitting in a bank account when I'd come back from like a funny bone every weekend. I didn't know what to do with it. I think that's a good... You were smart. You knew real estate, so the second you made money,

you were able to... I was just in that business, I wasn't smart. But it was just, it felt like a good place to have money, not even multiply it ridiculously, just have it. And then it could go up, but it's not, you know, crypto and all that shit is a way to make real money quick. Well, I actually think what crypto is, on some level, is Americans who feel like they've missed out

on massive stock gains, trying to find a way to get that incredible success that they see all these other people get. And some of them are having it. And they are. Some of them are having it. It's more accessible than opening up a Vanguard account. I think that's a good idea.

I think investing people, I agree with you. I think giving whatever it is, whatever amount of money that is I Don't hate that idea doesn't have to be giving but like how do you? Well, it would be giving that's why I would you wouldn't want that's why I would go with it say again You wouldn't want it back. Yeah, what a person is giving but like I don't know I just feel it's a good idea You want patriotism you want people to love the country get them invested in the success of the country if they feel left behind Of course, they're gonna be resentful when these CEOs are making 50 million dollar a year bonuses

I think people just I agree. I think people just want a Reasonable shot at a good life, and I think that's gotten too difficult. And I think that you should do that. I think CEO pay is only, it bothers people in the sense that they see themselves and their families falling behind. So there's a way to make, you know, people more secure. I don't think they're worrying about what a CEO is making you know, people, you know, more secure. I don't think they're worrying about

what a CEO is making unless it's so egregious or whatever the case may be. I think the problem we play, we play a game in the financial markets where it's like people bet their company's gonna fail. They make money off that. Like there's all these, this secondary market where you could play a lot of games gambling It's not a best gambling. It's it's just it's divorced from value

And I think a lot of people are going hey, man I teach your kid or I put your son or daughter in an ambulance if they're on the road. I Should be able to live. Yeah Because what you're doing which is you know playing games on Wall Street or whatever, it has, you know, whatever, but it's like I'm putting your kid in an ambulance. Yeah, I'm doing something more important. In their mind. Yeah. In their mind. To me, no. But I think it's, no. But I think it's like, it's some kind of importance. It's some kind of importance. What do you want out of the next? You're incredibly successful. I mean, where do you go from here?

Isn't it a scary place to be? You've sold out arenas all over the world. There's nothing left to do. There's no place for you to go. What do you do now? You're at the pinnacle. Just be a dad. Is it not a terrifying place to be? No, just be a dad. Aren't you not terrified? No.

This doesn't scare you? No. Aren't the worst things in the world not getting what you want and getting it? That's a line from the movie Limitless. I'm like... I don't know, I'm not like... I don't have the same bottomless pit that like some people have. Ooh, we got a lot of bottomless pits. Yeah, where it's like, oh there's pits that have no bottom.

And you just listen to these people complain, It's like, what are you complaining about? You're fucking, dude, you did everything. I had specific things I wanted to do. So after doing them, I feel really good and anything after that, I'm like, oh my God, this is like gravy. I got a kid, I wanna spend as much time as I can with a kid, I don't wanna abandon the kid.

I don't wanna be on the road all the fucking time. Of course not. And then any other creative endeavors I come up with, I just wanna try to make really cool shit. But I need to live a little bit. I can't be on the road all the fucking time. You end up doing an impression of your act if you just never stop.

At least I... Well, you're also, you're a dad now. You wanna be a human being a little bit and just have more stuff to talk about and that's very interesting. Yeah, I think that will make the best... Like I think this, I'm not trying to like plug, but I think this thing that I made

was the best thing I made because it was actually something that really impacted me and it was very important to me. For sure. And I put a lot of time into it and I wasn't like, oh, I need a new hour so I can make money. Right, it was something you wanted to do. I really was excited to do it.

That's right. I wanted to do it. So hopefully I take a little time off and maybe there's another thing I'm something you wanted to do. I really was excited to do it. I wanted to do it. That's right. So hopefully I take a little time off and maybe there's another thing I'm like really excited to do. And that is actually also the way Hamas feels. Yeah, that's the- I think they're doing it because they love it. I think they do it because they love it.

Andrew Schultz, the life special on Netflix. Go watch it. It is great. It is different. It is awesome. And he different. It is awesome and He'll be on the road again. He'll be out there. You'll see him go to the Polo Bar and catch him Bye. Bye