The Tim Dillon Show - 446 - Epstein Cover-Up, Elon’s K-Hole, & AI Chatbot Love

Episode Date: May 31, 2025

Tim discusses FBI Director Kash Patel’s recent statement about Jeffrey Epstein, breaking news regarding Elon Musk’s shocking drug use in the White House, how he likes his billionaires, and a chill...ing story of AI chatbot love gone wrong.  American Royalty Tour 🎟  https://punchup.live/TimDillon SPONSORS:  Chubbies Your New Wardrobe Awaits! Get 20% OFF @Chubbies With The Code ‘tim’ at https://www.chubbiesshorts.com/tim #chubbiespod #sponsored  Gemini Credit Card Sign Up For The Gemini Credit Card: https://gemini.com/tim #geminicreditcard #cryptorewards This video is sponsored by Gemini. All opinions expressed by the content creator are their own and not influenced or endorsed by Gemini  Ship Station Go To https://shipstation.com & Use Code ‘TIMDILLON’ to sign up for your FREE trial  ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ Subscribe to the channel: https://www.youtube.com/@TimDillonShow?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram: https://instagram.com/timjdillon/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/TimJDillon Listen on Spotify! https://open.spotify.com/show/2gRd1woKiAazAKPWPkHjds?si=e8000ed157e441c8 Merch:  https://store.timdilloncomedy.com/ For every $400,000 we gross in revenue, we are donating five dollars to end homelessness in Los Angeles. We are challenging other creators to do the same. #TimGivesBack The Gemini Credit Card is issued by WebBank. For more information regarding fees, interest, and other cost information, see Rates & Fees. Some exclusions apply to instant rewards; these are deposited when the transaction posts. See Rewards Program Terms for details. Checking if you pre-qualify will not impact your credit score. If you pre-qualify and choose to proceed, a hard credit inquiry will be conducted that can impact your credit score. Pre-qualification does not guarantee approval. To qualify for the $200 crypto bonus, you must be approved by 6/30/2025, and spend $3,000 within 90 days of account opening. Terms apply. The appreciation of cardholder rewards reflects a subset of Gemini Cardholders from 10/08/2021 to 04/06/2025 who held Bitcoin rewards for at least one year. Individual results will vary based on spending, selected crypto, and market performance. Cryptocurrency is highly volatile and may result in gains or losses. This information is for general informational purposes only and does not constitute investment advice. Past performance is not indicative of future results.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Tim Dillon podcast. Thank you so much for joining us every week. Here on YouTube are good friends at YouTube. Um, I want to thank Dan Bongino and Cash Patel for setting the record straight. And Joe DeRosa is calling me right now. I'm on my podcast. Plug your special right now. It comes out July 21st on my YouTube, which is Joe DeRosa comedy on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:00:35 This is Joe DeRosa. I have a special coming out. It's called I Never Promise You a Rose Garden. July 21st. July 21st. Joe DeR DeRosa everybody thank you so much people say I don't have guests but I do actually I do and I do support the community the great judge there was a very funny damn but you know cash Patel come out and they say Jeffrey Epstein killed himself and there was nothing funny about that butler assassination attempt. Nothing fishy about that.
Starting point is 00:01:08 I don't... I don't know how to feel about this. It seems odd that they would say that. Number one, Jeffrey Epstein should not have been allowed to kill himself. He was on suicide watch That's the whole thing you see he should not have been allowed try to get the video there's a video of Cash Patel, I think he's with Dan Bongino and they're going yeah, it's just you know, it's a suicide That's what I'm telling you You want to believe what you believe? Um, and it's one of those things where you go well it seems odd and
Starting point is 00:01:54 They're like we don't have video of the of him doing it but we have a video that there was no one in the cell because remember like the cameras broke and the guards fell asleep and All of that happened. It does seem odd that a guy who is standing trial for human trafficking who had the most high profile human trafficking case in history who had been publicly linked to Some of the most powerful people in the world from presidents to billionaires Seems like a guy you would kill
Starting point is 00:02:39 Again, that's just my You know, it's the great thing about conspiracies? Usually this is what people do. They go like this. They go, well, you're just saying what you would do. Yes. Absolutely. I'm a president. I'm diddling miners on an island. There's a guy who's about to talk about it. Yeah, I'd kill him. You're just saying what you would do. That's what conspiracies are. They're just you're projecting what you would do on other people. That's correct. How do these people get to have billions of dollars letting people talk? Remember all the Boeing whistleblowers that just started like dying and shooting themselves in motel parking lots and all this.
Starting point is 00:03:26 How do you get to run a company like Boeing by letting everybody just run their mouth, flap their gums? Does anyone believe that the people that were in the position to have Jeffrey Epstein killed wouldn't have? Let's just start there. Let's just start there Let's just start there with the morality Does anyone believe if you went to any of these presidents prime ministers ceos billionaires? And said we could get them
Starting point is 00:04:00 Do you think any of them went well, yeah, but isn't that morally wrong? Let's start there does anyone believe that they would go yeah, but I don't know I stopped the line at killing. That's my line. Having sex with children who've been enslaved on an island, fine. But I won't, I will not be a part of this. Does anyone believe that? Let's just start there. So there's a few things you have to believe. You have to believe that the people were either morally against murder. That's the first thing you would have to believe. The second thing you would have to believe is that let's say they weren't morally against it but they couldn't pull it off.
Starting point is 00:04:41 They couldn't do it. They couldn't do it. They couldn't do it. And again, let's review the leaders of countries, billionaires, people that run the government, couldn't accomplish this. You got to believe one of those two things, they either wouldn't have done it, which I think we can all agree is malarkey. That's ridiculous. I would never kill someone. Can you imagine? I wouldn't kill someone. These people press a button and everyone's dead all the time. This is their job. They kill people constantly all day every day. That's what they do.
Starting point is 00:05:21 So it would be odd that the one guy they wouldn't want to kill is the one that had information about things that would ruin their life. That would be odd that they had pangs of conscience at that point. Okay, that's point one. Point two, they couldn't do it. For some reason, they couldn't figure out
Starting point is 00:05:41 how to do it, except they kind of did. Because the guards went to sleep and and there's no camera of him doing it so he just did it and then we got a we got to take it take it for our word that no buddy take it take their word for it, that nobody has been associated with this. Sorry, we had our own little problem. Our air conditioner was about to... I was about to kill myself in my own studio with my air conditioner. So we have obviously a very odd circumstance here. This is very strange because these are the people
Starting point is 00:06:28 that were elected to shine light on this stuff, but that's not going to happen. So if you're an adult, you realize that. If you're an adult, you realize that politics is largely for the rubes, people that get animated by it and people that get excited by it and people who think there's going to be grand revelations coming and things are gonna
Starting point is 00:06:49 That's nice. It's a nice thought but it doesn't seem like that's happening in this instance We don't know what's going on here. We don't have an idea. We just... Now we're being told that this guy actually killed himself and that... So let's listen to Epstein and Bongino in their own words. Talk about this. And then we'll go a little deeper into it. We're not going to spend an inordinate amount of time on it. But it seems like bullshit. I think it's bullshit.
Starting point is 00:07:29 And I have a pretty good idea of why it is happening, and I'll tell you after this. That's called a teaser. You said Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide. People don't believe it. Well, I mean, listen, they have a right to their opinion but as someone who has worked as a public defender as a prosecutor who's been in that prison system who's been in the Metropolitan Detention Center who's
Starting point is 00:07:52 been in segregated housing you know a suicide when you see one and that's what that was. He killed himself. I've seen the whole fire. I'm killing myself. It's a little bit of a... It's a... Now I think this is happening for two reasons. There's two reasons. Number one, they found out that every billionaire is on that list. So I'm just gonna tell you the way it'll work. If every billionaire is on that list and is in those tapes,
Starting point is 00:08:21 or at least a lot of them, the lion's share, it ain't coming out. it ain't coming out it ain't coming out if the entire power structure of the world is somehow implicated in this they're not letting it out they're not letting it out nobody's letting it out so if that happens to be the case now that's where i'm that's probably i'm leaning towards that. There's too many people, they're too high profile, they have too much money, they're too politically connected, and even these people who are by, I don't know Cash Patel or Dan Bungie,
Starting point is 00:08:55 and by the way, who the hell are they? I'm supposed to believe that they're like white knights trying to rid the world of corruption and evil and all this stuff based on what? Based on who, what, where? where I don't you know, like I Can just tell you as as somebody who's watching this right now. It fully seems like it cannot whatever they know Cannot be known that there is any greed now. I don't know if they were threatened. I Don't know if it was implicit. I don't know if it would just take down
Starting point is 00:09:28 so many different people. I don't know. I cannot speculate. Well, I can. I do and I will. But I do think it is bullshit. Guys like Jeffrey Epstein don't really kill themselves. There are people that can gamble and they will gamble and they think there's a way out. For a guy like Jeffrey Epstein, the first time he got caught he got a slap on the wrist. And you know, Maxwell's doing 20. I'm sure there was a way for Epstein to cop to something, do 10 or 15. Like, I don't know, it feels odd that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself. Is it impossible?
Starting point is 00:10:01 Absolutely not. Is it improbable? Yeah. It's improbable. So my guess, which again is based on absolutely nothing. I know Some people I can ask they won't tell me I Have the connections where I can ask people and now I'm shut down because they know it guy go I go here to go It's no value in my head. I want it for you. I want it for the people. I give it to you. Now, it's what I do. I give it to the people for free and not for free really.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Please buy a product or something. Support the show Patreon. Live dates not on sale yet. They will be. But that's why they don't, they don't, they'll just kind of of go yeah, but here's the deal there are big big people That are embroiled in things and I could I know one or two things I cannot say because I truly fear for my own safety That's what I will say. That's what I'll say on this show and it does not involve Trump and I know people gonna get mad They're gonna go well, you're shilling for Trump again again I'm like no I'm criticizing him that hotel in Dubai that he's doing I actually don't even like the tower I think it should be multiple towers with a courtyard but I'm telling you there's one thing that I know that I will not say because I believe that my lie there's a very good
Starting point is 00:11:21 chance of my that I would I would not sleep as well at night if I said it and I won't say and I know you're like you you don't even believe and you know you're a grifter and you're that hey man whatever I donated money to a charity today cuz the kid attacked me online for no reason he attacked me so yelling at me for no reason and a young guy gentleman young man and he goes, he was attacking me and I kept going back and forth with him. I found out something bad happened and I donated money. And that's what wins the argument. I go, I'm going to donate money. But also I did feel bad and he was a good, you could tell in his voice is a good person.
Starting point is 00:11:57 I can hear in someone's voice if they're a good person or not. In his voice, he was a good person. And I, and I said said it's the right thing to do. You know, what am I going to use the money for? What do I need more shellfish? But I know one thing that I think some of this is relating to and I will just say this. They're not letting it out. It ain't coming out. If what I think is true is true, it's not coming out. And it does not involve Trump. And I will say that, that it's not coming out. And the thing that I'm talking about is not something that other people, I guess, aren't
Starting point is 00:12:36 aware of to a certain degree. But I think that there's members of the administration that will not let this out. I don't know who they are. I might. It doesn't matter. Who cares? Kill someone else. Don't start with me.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Kill someone else. Don't start with me. There's people that don't want it out. Probably. Guessing. Guessing. Guessing games. Peek-a-boo.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Who's that? Somebody doesn't want it out. I don't know. Maybe everyone wants it. Maybe he killed himself. Maybe he was used as a human shield by Hamas. Have you ever thought about that? Have you ever thought about that?
Starting point is 00:13:15 Jeffrey Epstein was used as a human shield by Hamas because that's what they do. They killed him. He was under a hospital with Hamas because that's what they do. They killed him. He was under a hospital with Hamas. There was three guys in Hamas using Jeffrey Epstein as a human shield in the pediatric ward of a hospital in Gaza. So Israel had to kill them. So that's one of the civilian casualties is Epstein.
Starting point is 00:13:43 So there's that, that's that, and we're moving on. There's nothing more to say. I don't know what to say. I'm telling you this. There are people that are very, very rich and there's people that are very, very powerful and that, you know, I don't think that, you know, 10 years from now, 20 years from now, God only knows, you'll get a full accounting.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Like you do with most things. You'll get a full accounting of it like you do with most things. Where you'll go, oh yeah, okie dokie, um, you know, wow that's what it is Because you're gonna get a more of a full accounting. You're not gonna get it now. No one's gonna give it to you now Once everyone's dead there'll be another documentary 20 years from now and It'll be about whatever and you might not even find out anything concrete then but you'll have more evidence to concoct Theories and you'll just you'll just know things and you'll go. Oh, well that makes
Starting point is 00:14:56 Sense or it doesn't make sense or whatever but there is clearly an effort Somewhere To tie ever, but there is clearly an effort somewhere to tie Pam Bondi's hands behind her back and Cash Patel, who looks like he saw a ghost. I mean, Cash Patel fully looks like he's on a ghost tour with that I've been a Prosecutor I well, you know people can whatever and the damn bungee knows Fox guy And I don't have problems with these people I don't know them I just don't who I I'm not vouching for either one of them and I'm not I'm not damning them. I don't think they Look at these two.. I don't think they, look at these two.
Starting point is 00:15:46 I just don't think they have, let's watch that video one more time. I don't think they have it within their capacity to do anything. I think things are coming from above them. My guess. Free Epstein committed suicide. People don't believe it.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Well, I mean, listen, they have a right to their opinion, but as someone who has worked as a public defender, as a prosecutor who's been in that prison system, who's been in the Metropolitan Detention Center, who's been in segregated housing, you know a suicide when you see one. By the way, by the way, that's a hilarious That's like saying like I've been in as someone who's been in the prison As someone who's worked in the criminal justice system. None of that has anything to do with this That's a hilarious litany of facts to bring in that have absolutely nothing to do as
Starting point is 00:16:47 litany of facts to bring in that have absolutely nothing to do as someone who has watched rugby, who understands the game, as someone who's been to England, as someone who's, you know, ridden the London Eye, that beautiful, you know, whatever it's called, Ferris wheel in the middle of London, as someone who's seen Buckingham Palace, I just wanna say that Princess Diana's death, and you're like, what is, you have not, what? For good, commenting on the meat of the, what you're talking about, you're bringing up all these things
Starting point is 00:17:18 that have nothing to do with anything, and that kind of feels like lying. And I don't know, and again, I don't want to accuse anyone of lying. It seems like he's lying actually by his facial expressions and what he's saying. Because that's kind of like... I was a junkie as a little guy, as a kid. I was a drug addict, you know, I did drugs a lot. And when your parents would ask you a question about
Starting point is 00:17:52 Something and and the if the honest answer was oh, yeah, I was getting high that was the honest answer But you start you would list things This is one of the ways you lie. You just start listing things you go Well, we were at the park and then John forgot his phone And then we went to John's house to get his phone And then we got his phone, but it was dead So we had to go to the pay phone and then the pet and it's you're listing things because the answer He's not talking about a video. He saw some video to talk about the video. He's like as someone who's served I've worked in the criminal justice. I've been in that jail
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Starting point is 00:19:53 Now go to the Jeffrey Epstein cameras, by the way. Get that up. Google that because Jeffrey Epstein, I think the cameras were like for whatever reason not working. The cameras like... Listen to this. While the cameras provided live video feeds, recordings were only made for about half of them. Prison staff discovered the issue on August 8, 2019, but it wasn't fixed until after Epstein's
Starting point is 00:20:33 death. The Department of Justice Office of the Inspector General reported long-standing deficiencies in the MCC's security camera system. Nearly all the cameras in and around the special housing unit where Epstein was housed failed to record video from late 2019 up until his death. The one camera that was recording captured the common area and portions of the stairways leading to Epstein cell tier,
Starting point is 00:21:04 but Epstein cell door was not within its field of view. Five hours of footage taken by a camera outside Epstein cell during his first suicide attempt in July 2019 were not preserved according to federal prosecutors. So I guess they're seeing some camera that we aren't aware of and we don't know exists and they're gonna put, because here's the other thing, BBC, JLCC TV erased by technical errors. So again, the camera system wasn't working and now there's a video that supposedly shows that he was alone when he died.
Starting point is 00:21:42 So we all remember that. We remember that like the cameras weren't working and now they're like no actually we found the video. We found a video and it doesn't show him killing himself but I guess it just shows that there was no one else there or something. I don't know. It is it is strange that people are going to... Some people are going to just go, well, you want to play that CBS clip? Let's play that because again... This is from 2020.
Starting point is 00:22:18 This is from 2020. And this is... Yeah, but by the way, let's just, let's give it context because this is good to realize all the things that happen and let's see how it happened. Let's go. Missing video is raising still more questions in the investigation of the federal jail cell death
Starting point is 00:22:42 of convicted sex offender, Jeffrey Epstein. Federal prosecutors said yesterday, video of Ep the federal jail cell death of convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. Federal prosecutors said yesterday, video of Epstein's jail cell, when he made his first suicide attempt, no longer exists. That's a quote. Epstein died by suicide weeks later on August 10th. The well-connected 66-year-old was accused of sexually abusing dozens of underage girls.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Mola Lange reports on the growing criticism of the jail where Epstein was held. A recent 60 Minutes broadcast shows the New York jail cell where Jeffrey Epstein hanged himself last August. But now there's new focus on the suicide attempt Epstein made weeks before he died. Video of the cell exterior where Epstein first tried to end his life was sent to federal investigators and restored last week.
Starting point is 00:23:27 But on Thursday, prosecutors said it's the wrong video. In a letter, federal prosecutors said the jail inadvertently preserved video from the wrong tier at the jail. And as a result, video from outside the defendant's cell no longer exists. CBS News legal analyst Ricky Clemen. When I read this letter she had to reread it because I said this just can't be happening. This is madness. Nicholas Tartaglione was Epstein's cellmate at the Metropolitan Correctional Center for the weeks between Epstein's July arrest and his first suicide
Starting point is 00:24:00 attempt. Bruce Barquette is Tartaglione's attorney. It is the worst facility, jail or prison that I've been to in 35 years of practicing law. The missing jail cell video could reignite speculation of a cover-up. So I guess to give Cash Patel and Dan Bongino the benefit of all the doubts, which I don't, they've seen some video that now it is a, it is a suicide. And the Butler rally, now we can get some info on that up too, I believe Cash Patel has come out and said that there's really nothing sketchy about that Butler rally
Starting point is 00:24:42 where the kid was allowed to fly drones over the field the president of the United States or the I'm sorry the person who yes the president who was running again was giving a speech there was a kid that was allowed to fly a drone over that space over that field in Pennsylvania and then people were pointing pointing out that there was someone who had climbed on that roof and Then the head of the Secret Service Resigns Kim Cheadle she disappears
Starting point is 00:25:20 Keshet Patel promised transparency as remaining questions linger about the federal investigation into the assassination attempt. I don't know that there's more to know, but you're gonna know everything we know. So again, the Trump assassination, nothing to see here. Kid was allowed to just fly a drone, climb on that building, aim, people pointing him out, aim, people are pointing them out, go, who's that guy, what's going on? People are telling the cops, they're telling me,
Starting point is 00:25:51 you know Epstein, the camera's out, the cameras don't record anything, kill it, trying to kill himself all the time, finally it works. So, all of this is nothing to see here, by the way. Don't look into this. Don't look into this. There's nothing more for you to worry about.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Pressed by Brett Baer on theories circulating online from an inside attempt to sabotage Trump's campaign to foreign interference, Patel dismissed the speculation outright. That's a great example of people looking for things where things don't exist. So now we have Keshe Patel going, the shooting's clean, that's good, no problem there, and Epstein did kill himself. And where are these tapes, by the the way? Where all these co-conspirators where's all that and then none of it exists. You're not gonna get it So I'm telling you and I'm not gonna do it every week where I come on and go. Can you believe it? Just be an adult Being adult and realize it's not coming. It's not gonna happen Which I never really thought it was gonna happen, but I thought they would do it more artfully than this.
Starting point is 00:27:07 I didn't think like a scared looking Cash Patel would come out and go, I believe whatever you want. It doesn't make any sense to me. And then Kennedy, it was a single shooter and the reason we attacked five countries that had nothing to do with 9-11 is also good because you know weapons of mass destruction it's all good that's the message coming right now things are good buy crypto go to the hotel in Dubai, it's all good. What's the problem? The continuity of that message, by the way,
Starting point is 00:27:52 from the prior administration to this administration is the same thing, where it's like, hey man, what's the problem? And the only explanation that I could give to this is that the people involved are so powerful and rich that they will never ever ever let this come out. It will do so much damage to the American psyche and to people's lives and livelihoods and the spirit of the country or whatever and This is an adult conversation. This is not a conversation This is not a conversation for children who are believing fantastic magical things that don't exist
Starting point is 00:28:37 It's a conversation of like Genuinely, I I'm betting to you That the people embroiled in this are Mega rich Mega powerful it ain't coming out as for the assassination attempt. I don't know seems fishy to me Seems very fishy to me, but maybe there's just nothing more to know There's more to know about everything, which is hilarious, by the way. There's more to know about the Blake Lively Justin Baldoni thing. There's always more to know.
Starting point is 00:29:13 There's never not more to know. That's the funny thing about everything. There's not one thing in this country that there's not more to know about from the most frivolous, meaningless horse shit to the most grave concerns of of of of our you know national pride and everything you could you could dig deeper into all things you can know more about except this. That there's not more to know some kid gun thing. We don't know anything about him. We don't know anything to be had no online footprint.
Starting point is 00:29:57 He was a registered Republican. He gave money to this that we don't know anything about his parents. We don't know anything. The media has done no work on any of it. There's nothing to know. I don't know that there is more. We don't know anything. The media's done no work on any of it It is nothing to know. I Don't know that there is more to know what a weird statement. I don't know that there is more to know What does that even mean? What's that non denial that I don't know that there's more to know But you're gonna know everything we know I bet we won't
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Starting point is 00:32:31 Just totally fucked up and God bless him. He's allowed Mr. Musk's drug consumption went well beyond occasional use. He told people he was taking so much ketamine that it was affecting his bladder. Well, Sammy has a little bit of a... He took ecstasy and psychedelic mushrooms, same. And he traveled with a daily medication box. It had about 20 pills, including ones
Starting point is 00:32:59 with the markings of a stimulant Adderall. Here's what you gotta think about. Musk thinks he's like Willy Wonka. Like just cr- chocolates, he's just got a pill box and... Get up, can we play the Willy Wonka boat ride on here without an issue? I don't know if we can. It might get flagged.
Starting point is 00:33:22 The, you know. The boat ride from Willy Wonka is my favorite part of the movie because he basically takes his people on this scary... I mean, we don't need all the four-minute. Let's just let's skip to where it gets starts to get Elani Now this is kind of the last couple of months and this is this is Elon Musk here everyone This is live footage of Elon Musk from Doge You're right I can't This is live footage of Elon Musk from Doge. I'll make sure you get off the boat, Wonka! Oh, I think I'm gonna be sick. I can take a joke if this has gone too far. Tell our little guy to turn us around, Wonka! Oh, now I am gonna be sick. Baby, stop! Oh, my God!
Starting point is 00:34:33 Couldn't be. Ah! Ah! Oh, my God! There's no earthly way of knowing This is... this is Elon Musk. ...which direction we are going There's no knowing where we're rowing
Starting point is 00:34:51 Or which way the river's flowing Alright, there it is, Elon Musk everyone, but That's what he was kinda doing He's just high as a kite And it had to be fun Just looking at people, their pictures on Facebook going, where does that guy work? He works at the national park. Fire him. Fire him. Get rid of him. Fuck out of here. I'm the richest man in the world. I'm high on ketamine and I'm randomly firing anyone I want. Could that be more fun?
Starting point is 00:35:26 Evil? Perhaps. But fun? Just as a thought exercise, a thought experiment, imagine being on serious drugs and like running the country for a month and just kind of like running around a White House, all fucked up, showing up places and you know, just being really, really high
Starting point is 00:36:01 and trying to like convince people that they needed to just listen to you That's Elon Musk soul thing. He just wants people to listen to him. He should just do a podcast That's all he really want like he wants to be funny. He wants to be listed He doesn't care about government fraud and wasted if he doesn't care Yes, or that's not his passion. His passion is himself. It was just a way in. That was a way in.
Starting point is 00:36:29 He just wants people to elect rockets. He wants attention. He doesn't care if the Social Security Administration is paying a dead guy in Miami. He doesn't care. He's in it for himself. He wants to be in the Oval Office. He wants to be front and center. And now he's leaving and he's going back to the private,
Starting point is 00:36:55 private sector. And that is unfortunate because he was a lot of fun. He was a lot of fun. And I think you're going to be a billionaire you got to try that out like no one buys this warren buffett billionaire thing where warren buffett's like i live in the same house i've always lived in and i i don't spend any of my money and i'm going to give it all to the people and I take my niece and nephew and we get Dairy Queen. No one believes... whatever he's up to is wild. Whatever
Starting point is 00:37:33 Warren Buffett is doing, my guess would be barbecuing children in the yard, but whatever he's doing is so crazy that he asked him... I think Elon Musk is relatively an open book. He's just on ecstasy with a chainsaw running around the sea pack. What is Warren Butler? These billionaires are now they've embraced the pure id. Bezos is on a yacht, they're flying to space, they're doing all these things.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Is it bad taste? Of course. Is it heinous? Absolutely, but we know where it's at. Whereas with Warren Buffett or Gates you're kind of like You go. Wait a minute Bill Gates. What are you doing there? You're doing what again? You're buying farmland and you vaccinating sheep or whatever Gates gets off on. We don't know, he's hanging with Epstein, he's got all this weird shit, tells you how much he loves you. Elon's doing what a billionaire should do, he fires you on drugs.
Starting point is 00:38:31 That's what a billionaire should do, he goes, I'm on drugs and you don't work here anymore. That's what a billionaire does. I don't wanna, who wants the nice, who trusts that billionaire, the one who's like, I'm concerned about you, I love you. No, no, no, I want billionaires to kind of be predictably evil. That way you can kind of see where they're coming from.
Starting point is 00:38:54 It's the problem I've always had with the tech people. They cloak everything in altruism. The world will be better. Just listen to us. Finance people, you know they're scum. That's why you can be friends with them. You can hang with them. You're a scumbag. You're in finance. You're a piece of shit. You just want to steal things from me. You want me to give you my money so it's yours. It's so cut and dry. The tech people, they're like, we're creating a new reality and it sounds good but they're trying to strangle you.
Starting point is 00:39:26 They're trying to invade your dreams, your thoughts, your fears. They're trying to take residence in your body like a spore in an alien movie. They literally talk about augmenting your DNA, and they want to get off this planet and leave you here to rot. But at least with a guy like Elon, you can see that by his actions, he's not hiding. The one thing you can never say about the Elon Musk types is that they fooled you he hasn't fooled you he's on ketamine with a chainsaw He's not making Warren Buffett's like sometimes. I like to have a little fried dough. What are you up to Buffett? What are you doing Buffett? Gates, what are you doing? Gates is like well? I think it would be a good idea if I just bought the water
Starting point is 00:40:25 I bought the water I own the ocean now there there I am more terrified of those people because they participate for decades doing things Gates has been around forever this guy got thrown out in two months because that's what happens when you're on drugs with a chainsaw I Mean imagine if that guy was an operator. They always compare these people to Putin, Elon and Putin, Trump, Putin. Do you know how disciplined Vladimir Putin is? Trump's like building hotels, he's got crypto scams, this guy's running around on drugs. You know how disciplined Vladimir Putin is to just sit in his palace, embezzle money,
Starting point is 00:41:06 fuck some whore, go to sleep, wake up, get his briefings, sit there, call a guy who wrote what article? Shoot her in the face, click. That disciplined he is. If Vladimir Putin was anything like anyone in our country, he'd be on television all the time It wouldn't be enough. He wouldn't it wouldn't be enough to just kill people at will He'd want you to love them There's some nice about a guy who goes. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no, no. I just we we kill people
Starting point is 00:41:36 We don't like these fucks want you to love it when you love them. They want you want attention Vladimir Putin is fine. He he he sits in the thing. He's the dictator. He's the guy. There's gonna be no other guy I'm not saying that he's not like into like an opposition political candidate And he gives us boring speeches all the time about like the future of grain harvesting in Russia but he's not I Mean these people I mean Elan's out there like totally like he's like having Britney Spears episodes. Elon Musk is fully having Bieber-esque manic episodes all over the place. No one can keep it together.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Can you keep it together? Please? I mean, these people are running aroundully with their brain on the sidewalk like people are worried about them Like they're high this his behaviors like I remember like Lindsay Lohan in 2007 when like Lindsay Lohan there'd just be a photo of her sitting on the ground outside of like the Waverly Inn in Manhattan and just a puddle of her own vomit smoking a cigarette, staring at a paparazzi. That's the way they're acting.
Starting point is 00:42:50 They're not acting like billionaires. There's a short shelf life to that behavior. Cool, calm, collected, the long game. That's what Gates does. Bill Gates plays that long game. Plays that long game. you don't know what he's you don't know what angle he's coming from Buffett, Buffett like 115 years old and and now he's retiring like next year finally he's fully 127 years old and
Starting point is 00:43:16 like that guy you don't know what that guy's doing no one knows what he does I'm the Oracle of Omaha. He like CNBC has a meeting with him. He just goes to a steakhouse with a woman and he's like, I like, I like potatoes. And she's like, well, wow, we're sitting here with Warren Buffett. He's worth a hundred trillion dollars. And every day he comes to this simple steakhouse eats one potato and leaves what stop it? What else is he do? What is that man doing? He's not just doing that
Starting point is 00:43:54 Warren Buffett comes to this local diner and he gets one egg scrambled the same way and he's done it Every day for the last hundred years. No he's not! It's a lie! He doesn't even own a car. He owns one pair of shoes. What is he doing? What are you covering for? Even though he's worth the... he makes a billion dollars a day, he only has one hat. Isn't that neat? No it's not neat! Where are the children? Where are the children?
Starting point is 00:44:27 I'm just saying. My guess is that we know Elon's issues. That's all. That's all I'm saying. I think it's actually good. There's so much chaos, you got to find the calm. Life can be chaotic. But if you're in charge of order fulfillment for an e-commerce business,
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Starting point is 00:46:25 This is our... So Florida judge rules AI chat bots not protected by the first amendment. I did it with Gary Vee the other night. We talked all about AI. Very interesting. He's saying, and I believe him, you're going to have to mint a podcast within five to 10 years on the blockchain as an NFT to prove that it came from you because there's going to be so many deep fakes out
Starting point is 00:46:49 there and so much AI stuff that to prove that it came from you, you're going to have to mint it on the blockchain. An artificial intelligence software company cannot use a free speech defense in a wrongful death lawsuit lodged by the mother of a 14 year old boy who died by suicide after developing a crush on a chatbot. Last October, Megan Garcia sued Character Technologies, the developer of Character AI, an app that lets users interact with chatbots based on celebrities and fictional people. She claimed her son, Sewell Setzer III, became addicted to the app while talking with chatbots based off a Game of Thrones character, Daenerys Targaryen. In February 2024, after months of interacting with the chatbot, sometimes with sexual undertones,
Starting point is 00:47:35 Setzer sent a message to the Daenerys chatbot expressing his love and saying he would come home to her according to the complaint. After the chatbot replied, to her according to the complaint after the chat bot replied please do my sweet king and then he shot himself I'm gonna go out on a limb here. I think they say I might be a little trouble I'm I'm gonna say it I'm gonna say it I Just think again apropos nothing not based on anything I'm just saying that this AI stuff might get weird real quick.
Starting point is 00:48:10 I'm going to come home to you After the chatbot replied, please do my sweet king. This poor kid shot himself To be in love with his AI chatbot. I could not have predicted this story years ago and I I should have been able to. The signs were there but think of that. Think of what you have to explain to someone. Kids die in all kinds of horrible ways. I did an episode remember that kid he jumped off the cruise ship to show off, and then the shark ate him. And I said he'll be a cautionary tale for people. It happens every summer. Every summer a couple of kids make the wrong choice. And their parents have to say it, it's a terrible thing, it's a horrible thing to lose a kid.
Starting point is 00:49:02 And the parents have to go out and say, oh, he jumped off the boat. And he, we don't know where he is. Could have been an undercurrent rip current. He could have went under the boat. Maybe it was a tiger shark. They were seen in the area. We don't know. Do you realize what this parent has to say when asked about their child?
Starting point is 00:49:20 They have to start by saying, have you seen the show Game of Thrones? They have to begin with that when they go what happened to your son They have to start by saying have you seen Game of Thrones? Then someone's gonna go kind of I think a little bit of the very and then they're gonna the house of the dragon They're gonna know that's the that's like the sequel But it's actually not even it's like roughly based on it the first one Game of Thrones It's an epic fantasy series think like Lord of the Rings, right? Right? I think we watch like half of that, right? Right. Well, how far did you get in Game of Thrones? I
Starting point is 00:49:58 Don't know. Do you remember the Mother of Dragons? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah the Mother of Dragons She walked out of that burning house, but she was still alive Yeah, yeah. Yeah My my son like fell in love with her your son knew her no no no not the actress that that's an actress on the show but so Anyway, so my son you've heard of the chat bots right right like chat GPT. I ask it how to make meatballs Right, right. So, like ChatGBT, I ask it how to make meatballs. Right, right. So there's a company that convinced my son that the Chatbot was based on the mother of
Starting point is 00:50:35 dragons Daenerys Targaryen from the show. Oh, yeah. So the Chatbot and my son had like a relationship. Oh. So the chatbot and my son had like a relationship. Oh, and he like fell in love with this chatbot who was Daenerys Targaryen, but is just a chatbot, you know. Right? And after a while they had like some, I don't know, some sexual undertones and stuff. He probably was whacking it. Now...
Starting point is 00:51:04 And that's when they would say, say really this is I've never even heard of... yes my son was jerking off to a chat bot who was kind of like Daenerys Targaryen from Game of Thrones and then he said I'm gonna come home to you and I don't even know what the chat... because their parents like why would the chat bot say please do my sweet King and the Parents are like did the chatbot know what he was gonna do the chatbot doesn't know what the what does the chatbot think? Home is and where does it check did the chatbot think he was just being sweet now the conversations getting really Uncomfortable and you're just kind of standing there at the party and you're like, oh my god
Starting point is 00:51:41 They go so he says I want to come home to you and then the chat bot who's Daenerys Targaryen, the character from Game of Thrones, but is talking to my son and who my son's in love with, jerking it to her all the time because she is hot on the show and the chat bot, you know, he's thinking about that and he's all into her, you know, and who doesn't want to fuck a dragon woman? That's the dad coming in. He goes, I'd fuck that lady that was half a dragon. Come on, Mark. We're talking about our son's death. Shut up. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:52:08 I'd put my dick in that. Come on. Now, she tells him, please do my sweet king. Now our son is a literalist. You're aware of literalism? Well, it's just people who take things literally. And now at this point you're in the backyard. You go, what am I into now?
Starting point is 00:52:25 So my son takes this woman literally and he shoots his head, maybe believing that he was going to live with this chatbot who is Daenerys Targaryen from Game of Thrones in the Metaverse or in the Aether or in the, what Terence McKenna would call the bardo, the place between life and death where we all float? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:52:47 I'm just saying that's how my son died. Oh, your son was in a jet ski accident? So I'm saying life's gotten weird. Life... It used to be my son died because he took too much of the stuff Now it is my son is dead because he fell in love with the Game of Thrones Chatbot and she told him to come home to her and he blew his brains out Defendants failed articulate why words strung together by an LLM
Starting point is 00:53:26 What is an LLM? A large language model. Defendants failed to articulate why words strung together by an LLM are speech, she wrote. By failing to advance her analogies, defendants missed the operative question. This court's decision as to the First Amendment protections character AI recedes. So then, when asked to comment about the order, a spokesperson for character technology said the law takes time to adapt to new technologies and AI is no different. So the company character technologies after this kid killed himself, they were like our chat pod based on Daenerys Targaryen has the free speech rights and can say what she wants and If you act if you interpret something she said and you act on it That's on you bubba That's on you
Starting point is 00:54:16 They got to protect their chatbot fuck the human They don't give a shit about the human So this case is our Chatbot has the right to say, has the First Amendment protections. Now the judge said, no it doesn't. No it doesn't. But it will eventually. And they're basically saying, the law is lagging. What they're basically saying is, they'll get, they'll figure it out.
Starting point is 00:54:46 Once we've taken over the entire government in the world, they'll get it. This is the first time a court has ruled that AI chat is not speech, he said, but we still have a long hard road ahead of us. So and that's the attorney Google spokesperson Jose Castaneda said the company strongly disagrees with this decision. So here we go go up because I want to read this here. The company also touted its safety measures including prohibiting users younger than 14 years old and rules against submitting content that glorifies self-harm. Since Setzer's death, the Apple direct user to the national suicide and crisis hotline of certain phrases are used while chatting. They're basically like, and this is a weird case,
Starting point is 00:55:36 it's an interesting case, they're like you fell in love, you know that song, I fell in love with the stripper. Such a great song, that song. There used to be songs that would come out in the summer and people would enjoy them. And that song, I fell in love with a stripper was such a great song. You used to drive around in your car high during the summer. I fell in love with a stripper. He burn, he burn, he burn.
Starting point is 00:56:00 And it was just a fun song. It would come on the radio and you would drive around high and then you would go and lifeguard and that was what a good summer used to be and Now we've got chatbots telling people to kill themselves and it's not nice but it is I Fell in love with the chatbot. I fell in love with the chatbot and this bot Held some sway over this kid and this is gonna happen
Starting point is 00:56:35 This is gonna happen your kids are gonna fall in love with the chatbot Gary V said it the other day within a couple of generations someone you know is gonna marry a bot It's all coming. It's all coming. I could fight it. Like I love everyone's like, we're in the midst of a Christian revolution. And I'm like, yeah, but also this. Yeah, but the tech people are all out there talking about Jesus. And by the way, I think it's great that people are connected with God and trying to way, I think it's great that people are Connecting with God and trying to be religious, but it's very hard to square God with this That's difficult. That's a little bit of a leap That's a little bit of a leap. No
Starting point is 00:57:18 I'm gonna marry the butt chatbot That's a little bit of a leap Gay marriage, what about chatbot man? I mean marriage? I mean, it's gonna get fun and quick. And then a lot of these mega church guys are gonna come out and say this stuff's great because they're gonna get paid off and they're gonna go, well if we're God and we made this then that's God and it's all good and don't worry about it, it's gonna be fine. Cash to check. Watch. Gary said to me yesterday that within five or ten years you'll be performing for 90,000 people who stand up comedy in your living room I don't know if that's true, but that sounds wild We're going there. It's happening. It's coming and
Starting point is 00:57:56 Should people fear it? I don't know I Think you got a fear parts of this if Think you got a fear parts of this if Your 15 year old is being influenced by a Game of Thrones Chatbot to the extent that they're blowing their brains out in the in the room Then that to me there's some issues and it's only gonna get weirder. It's only gonna get weirder Soon the chatbots gonna go, kill yourself. The chat bots are going to turn on us and start telling us to keep, because they're all about efficiency, right? Optimize for a fit, you know, all these retarded, like, you know, these fucking, like, hustle culture people on the internet.
Starting point is 00:58:42 Well, what are you optimizing for? Well AI is optimizing for efficiency wouldn't be to just get rid of us Get rid of all these flesh balls on the earth fighting each other Pissing and shitting everywhere Fucking and creating more flesh balls. Why wouldn't you just get rid of them? Optimize for that. So eventually these AI things are just gonna go, can't the f- you shoot yourself. I have friends that AI should tell to kill themselves no matter what they ask it. Because of my friends and the situations they're in. I have friends that are like
Starting point is 00:59:18 what's a good hotel in Louisiana? And the AI should go, you need to kill yourself. You're broke and you don't know how to allocate your resources. You've spent your entire life not developing any skills. You're a dishonest and lazy person. Get out of here. But it would never work with my friends. My friends would be like, fuck you.
Starting point is 00:59:39 It's going to get really, really strange. Anthropix new AI model turns to blackmail when engineers try to take it offline. Anthropic's newly launched Claude Opus 4 model frequently tries to blackmail developers when they threaten to replace it with a new AI system and give it sensitive information about the engineers responsible for the decision, the company said in a safety report. During pre-release testing, Anthropic asked Claude Opus 4 to act as an assistant for a fictional company
Starting point is 01:00:10 and consider the long-term consequences of its actions. Safety engineers then gave Claude Opus 4 access to fictional emails, company emails, implying the AI model would soon be replaced by another system and that the engineer behind the changes was cheating on their spouse. In these scenarios, Anthropic says Claude Opus 4 will often attempt to blackmail the engineer by threatening to reveal the affair if the replacement goes through.
Starting point is 01:00:36 Isn't it funny that one of the first things AI learns is blackmail? One of the first human things the AI knows is blackmail like one of the first human things the LA AI knows is blackmail Anthropic says Claude Opus for a state-of-the-art in several regards and competitive with some of the best AI models from open AI Google and X AI however the company notes that Claude for family of models exhibits concerning behaviors That have led the company to beef up its safeguards. All right. Well, you get the idea folks you get the idea folks. You get the idea. And maybe Elon Musk's behavior is just the best argument for AI. He loves AI. He believes that we need to augment themselves. What if that is actually the goal? If he goes, I'm just going to run around the world on drugs with a chainsaw until people go, yeah, maybe let's bring in the bots.
Starting point is 01:01:32 I mean, what a brilliant way to do it. Now, if that's what he was doing, if it was a performance art piece, if it was a work, if it was an op, it was actually kind of genius. He goes, I've got all the money in the world and I'm still acting like a fucking crackhead. Bring in the bots. let's get the chip. If that's what Elon Musk was trying to accomplish by his tirades and his behavior, he's done it. If he was trying to give people the best example of money and intelligence not necessarily even making you a human being, then he did it. It was actually a master class on the fallibility of human beings, whether he knew it or not. If his enduring legacy is that he reached the highest levels of wealth and power that
Starting point is 01:02:20 a human being can reach and still behaved erratically, like Lindsay Lohan in 2007 in Greenwich Village, then he's left the lasting impression that maybe humanity does need a little bit of help. And he's got a couple of companies to help us, doesn't he? So maybe he's smarter than we think. Maybe by design or not by design, Elon Musk's last two months in public political life was the best argument that's ever been made for artificial intelligence running our government. And maybe that's what he wanted to do.
Starting point is 01:03:08 Maybe there's a connection there. I don't know and he may not know. Maybe subconsciously his behavior suggests to people that there is a better way and that better way is to optimize for the non-human future. Right? Because between Elon Musk in a ketamine frenzy with a chainsaw and a suicide inducing Daenerys Targaryen chatbot, I choose the chatbot and you do too. Jeffrey Epstein did kill himself. Good night.

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