The Tim Dillon Show - 454 - Emergency Podcast: The Epstein Cover-Up

Episode Date: July 22, 2025

Tim sits down with a prominent Austin broadcaster to discuss Donald Trump’s handling of the ongoing Epstein coverup, its connection to Netanyahu & Israel, the misplaced fear of Palantir, and who... exactly is implicated in the Epstein list... American Royalty Tour 🎟  https://punchup.live/TimDillon ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ Subscribe to the channel: https://www.youtube.com/@TimDillonShow?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram: https://instagram.com/timjdillon/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/TimJDillon Listen on Spotify! https://open.spotify.com/show/2gRd1woKiAazAKPWPkHjds?si=e8000ed157e441c8 Merch:  https://store.timdilloncomedy.com/ For every $400,000 we gross in revenue, we are donating five dollars to end homelessness in Los Angeles. We are challenging other creators to do the same. #TimGivesBack

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Alex Jones with us, legendary broadcaster, friend of the show. I've been lucky enough to speak to him about a lot of the crazy shit that has gone on the past 10 years. And you know, we'll just come right out with it. We want to get your read on what is going on because you know, from the outside, the Trump administration campaigns on exposing this cover-up blowing the lid off this cover-up and Then they get an office and now it seems like they're part of this cover-up
Starting point is 00:00:39 So what in your estimation has happened? Well, all I can do is observe from the outside I have a a lot of sources, it's been said baseball and what's happening. But the fact I know is this 15 days ago, they leaked to Axios, the judge department, this Epstein didn't get murdered and there wasn't human trafficking and there wasn't any blackmail and case closed. And that flies in the face of the court cases,
Starting point is 00:01:11 the evidence, the intelligence connections, everything we know. And then I came out on that Monday, 14 days ago, and I said, this isn't Pam Bondi, and I'm not defending her, I agree, she's in and over her head, like you said, she should go back to policing jet skis in Florida. But then he comes out the next day and says on Truth Social,
Starting point is 00:01:28 no, we need the FBI to move on. I told him to do this. And the next day in a press conference, he chews out the reporter when they're talking about all these issues saying, how dare you desecrate the graves of dead kids in Texas with the floods, shut up. And that's uncharacteristic for Trump,
Starting point is 00:01:45 he looks scared, he looks concerned. And then all the other true social posts about, if you ask questions, you're with the Democrats. And this is all a Democrat made up hoax. And you're just idiots. When all his surrogates had promised they'd bring this out, he talked about bringing it out. So this is Harry Carey, this is Seppuku, for those that don't know in Japanese, that means suicide. And I had the head of Rasmussen polling on, the best polling agency, the most accurate on record today. He said Trump has lost 14 points with independence,
Starting point is 00:02:15 five points with his main base. Like Steve Bannon said a week ago, that'll lose him before Rasmussen reported it. His dead reckoning was right, 40 seats probably in the midterms of the year and a half. This is Trump self-harming. And from all my research, you know, he knew Epstein, there were socialites, all that,
Starting point is 00:02:34 but they would have already used this, the deep state. They had something, the Jane Doe's they brought out, turned out weren't even real people. You know, they'd said that Melania was a hooker that Epstein introduced to her in a modeling agency. We looked into that. It was Trump's modeling agency. That wasn't true.
Starting point is 00:02:48 So they're kind of regurgitating all that on one hand. So why did Trump act so panic during the headlines? And you come out and say, there is no list. Okay, there is a list, but you're still an idiot if you look at it. Okay, we'll have Pam Bondi release the grand jury transcripts from Ghislaine Maxwell that Comey's daughter ran the cover up on London, the, you know, the, the, the, the Epstein case six years ago where he died in jail.
Starting point is 00:03:15 So you couldn't do a bigger Streisand effect. You couldn't come out and say, I'm more guilty than what he did. And my loyalty to the truth, I'm more guilty than what he did and my loyalties to the truth Actually autistic about it. You know, I can't even if I want Trump to succeed and Democrats are my sworn enemy trying to put me in prison I'm just like Having to report this that that that this is beyond insane. Yeah, and It's like Trump blowing his feet off with a 12 gauge shotgun.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Well, we know that this was not only a blackmail operation, but it was also a money laundering operation. And we know that Jeffrey Epstein was working for billionaires like Les Wexner and many others. And we know that there's been a lot of talk about the connections that Epstein had to intelligence and moving money around the world, making sums of money disappear.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Is it a complete coincidence that a lot of this seemed to happen around the time that Benjamin Netanyahu paid a visit to the White House? Well, as usual, Tim Dillon, you're very informed, not as a comedian, and you've nailed it. I don't, I don't want to attack Israel. I'm not a big Israel hater, but Netanyahu is, in my view, the villain of the last 25 years in Israel in and out of power. It definitely is the cliche of Israel trying to
Starting point is 00:04:44 manipulate the United States internal politics and foreign Israel in and out of power. It definitely is the cliche of Israel trying to manipulate the United States internal politics and foreign policy, particularly the Middle East. So definitely Netanyahu's heavily involved in. Ghislaine Maxwell, who was convicted of human trafficking, though the new memos and Trump says there is none of that. Well, the how she convicted, her dad, Robert Maxwell, was on record Mossad,
Starting point is 00:05:07 buried Mount of Olives with military honors and MI6 and Russian intelligence reportedly, fell off his yacht when all this came out. And just like when he died decades ago, all of a sudden billions of dollars was sucked out of his bank accounts. And so from my evidence and research, it's pretty conclusive, Epstein was a junior to Ghislaine
Starting point is 00:05:27 who took over the family MI6, CIA, Mossad business, because that level they're all interconnecting. And it was more than just trafficking underage girls, that was kind of a side or derv or a little rider. The larger issue was money laundering. And then now the Democrats have honed in on this. I said months ago and weeks ago that, you know, Trump needs to not just call for the grand jury stuff
Starting point is 00:05:49 to be released or the stuff from her trial or the trial that ever happened because Epstein died in custody there in New York in that detention center. We should demand the billions. It was 1.1 billion right after he died, but it was actually over a billion when he was in custody five and a half years ago in New York
Starting point is 00:06:11 that was sucked out of his business account. And so we know that's at the treasury department. So now Senator Wyden and others, as I predicted a month ago and two weeks ago, before this broke, I said, the Trump should release it because I could see that's where it's going. Where did the billions of dollars go
Starting point is 00:06:26 right before and right after he died? And so I agree with you, very astute, I was gonna make that point. This isn't even so much about human trafficking as it is about the money laundering that was going on. Then you've got Bill Barr, whose dad Donald Barr ran the school, that Epstein at 20 got hired with no credentials
Starting point is 00:06:46 to be the top math teacher. And then Barr was OSS CIA, his dad Donald Barr. Then Barr was CIA kind of the head of Iran contra-operations at the White House. And then his dad Donald Barr writes a book about space relations, about aliens on a planet that kidnap human girls to rape them.
Starting point is 00:07:06 And then they train humans to enjoy it and join them in the raping of children. This is beyond crazy. And he hires Epstein to do all this. And so, yeah, Trump had beauty pageants and Trump had casinos and Trump had golf courses and Trump was involved in sporting events. And so I thought, well, they ever had anything on Trump, they would have brought it out as they tried with a bunch of nothing burgers in 2016 and 2020.
Starting point is 00:07:33 But now that he acted like this, I think the jury's out, but where the jury is not out is on the majority of people on the plane, on the flight logs are Democrats are big powerbuggers like Bill Gates and and and we know some people in the Trump administration but heavily implicated I'm not gonna name names and so but you nailed it when you brought up Netanyahu so so me if you've got time here I have to we have all the time in the world. I just want to add When bondi said we have 10,000 hours of video
Starting point is 00:08:08 She said we have 10,000 hours of video. I had dinner last week with the vice president He told me that that was commercial pornography They do not have videos of any powerful person in a compromising position powerful person in a compromising position, that's the party line that they're going with. If that's the case, why would Pam Bondi call it evidence? Why would she say it's evidence? She's not an idiot. She's the Attorney General. Why would she say she has files on her desk if none of these implicated anybody it just feels like they're they're covering something for sure 100% and I feel like they're they're telling a
Starting point is 00:08:56 story and the story doesn't make any sense perfectly said so again there's so much data. I have it would take a hundred hours, but we'll go as long as you need. Here's what I'm trying to say. But there are two main tracks here. Okay. Incompetence by bonding and Patel and a Bon Gino
Starting point is 00:09:21 or a mix of that or pure coverup, but undoubtedly there's a cover up. So here's what we know from the timeline. And I'm not trying to gonzo journalism, write myself into the story. I just do this seven days a week. So I broke most of the different developments that happened in the last six months.
Starting point is 00:09:36 So here's what we know and you give me your conclusion. Trump's surrogate says they're gonna release it. They get in, in March they're given this old Epstein information at that press conference with the super binders. And a day and a half before that happens, I have O'Boyle, who is the main, you know, one of the top FBI whistleblowers exposed so much. And he says my my New York sources say they've got massive Epstein videos and files that the Democrats are suppressing and not giving to Trump. And Bondi's been set up.
Starting point is 00:10:11 We're meeting with her tonight. My sources are, and she's going to expose the fact that she's been set up. The next day she comes out and on the cover sheet of the binder says, this is phase one. I learned there's a lot more in New York, with Comey's daughter and Comey running it, which we know control the file the whole time. If they don't give it to us in 24 hours, we're gonna go grab it.
Starting point is 00:10:32 24 hours goes by, they go grab it, the head of the FBI in New York resigns, the guy that said dig in, don't do it. And then they're given these files, but that's the setup. Obviously, if the Democrats before Trump and after Trump and now control the file and James Comey and Marine Comey controlled it, are they gonna leave stuff in that is incriminating? No, it's logical to say they're gonna probably drop a dime on themselves, not that my whistleblower was bad. They're gonna drop a dime. We've
Starting point is 00:10:59 really got the real file. So Trump's like, yeah, go get it, grab it, get them. They get the file and then I talked to FBI sources, yeah, go get it, grab it, get them. They get the file. And then I talked to FBI sources, multiple ones, call, serve and others, showed me the text messages. This is in late March, days after. That indeed, the way the FBI works, the top of the FBI does the investigations, they get the truckloads out of New York,
Starting point is 00:11:20 they send it all over the country to field offices and say, do what you want. Then the FBI, we confirm this, looks at it. It's got all this stuff about Trump in it, whether it's true or not. Bondi and them come back and say to Trump, it's got all this about you. Then you see the deer in the headlights
Starting point is 00:11:38 interviewed two months ago with Bongino and Cash Patel on Fox. They look like they're hostages. They're like, no, you can trust us. He killed himself and Epstein acted alone and didn't do anything and case closed. And I said this before Trump said it a week, a week and a half ago, I said,
Starting point is 00:11:54 Trump has learned, or this is a big possibility, they've spiked it with poison pills. They're not just gonna take out bad stuff about them. They're gonna add all the innuendo, all the Jane Doe's, all the stuff recycled in. Then Trump comes out on social last Saturday, eight, nine days ago, Saturday before last, and says, hey, they control the file.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Not saying FC doesn't exist or wasn't bad, that's how the media spun it. He says, they put a bunch of bull in there, which I was even able to predict. So that's one track of what it is and why he acted so scared and hysterical. The other track is he was a big playboy. He was hanging out with Epstein.
Starting point is 00:12:34 He was running beauty pageants. Maybe he did some stuff he wasn't supposed to. And he had some deep, and now they're bringing out. So now the jury's out on Trump. Now he's gotta be suspect. But the same people that run crossfire hurricane, the fake Russiagate, Obama, Clapper, Comey, Brennan, that did all this, who are known fake frauds,
Starting point is 00:12:55 who are known to be all over the Epstein file, who are known controlling it on the US side, anything they tell me suspect, so I don't believe it right away. Then you bring up Netanyahu and that's the key. So anytime Mossad is gonna operate like this on domestic soil, they're gonna need a CIA agreement and pass.
Starting point is 00:13:17 This goes on for decades. And then you've got Maxwell's dad that was MI6, Mossad on record and KGB, triple agent, highest level. The real agent is a triple level or quadruple level. So you have Trump, yeah, grab it, do it. He gets it, oh my God, I've been set up. Then he's mad at Netanyahu, and from behind the scenes sources,
Starting point is 00:13:38 we're not attacking Iran months ago. Netanyahu shows up, suddenly Trump, 180s, searching whatever Netanyahu shows up suddenly Trump 180s, searching whatever Netanyahu wants. And we know who has the full file of all the hidden cameras and all the stuff at Little Island in, you know, there in the Caribbean at his facility in Zorro Ranch, New Mexico, in New York. And we had Ehubarac there photographed dozens of times, you know, in 30 something meetings there in New York. And we had a Barack there photographed dozens of times,
Starting point is 00:14:05 in 30 something meetings there in New York. As all of a sudden you get a 180, as soon as Netanyahu shows up, now Trump learns what's in the FBI file. Right after that, then Netanyahu comes and tells him, and
Starting point is 00:14:20 I don't believe from my sources, and this is how little FBI, that it is Trump, but it's people in his administration, including a top financial advisor that's heavily involved. Trump wants to get his agenda through of jobs, 15 trillion investment coming in, three trillion already here.
Starting point is 00:14:37 He wants to stop World War III. I'm not defending this, I'm saying the thinking, I've been told. And so he goes, oh my God, this is a giant new Russiagate setup. He comes out and says to my list to his supporters. Would I be crazy when you say, um, a top financial advisor, are
Starting point is 00:14:54 we, are we talking about Epstein's neighbor? We are. Okay, interesting. And that makes sense. Um, so here's how informed you you are and I'm not trying to be a mean person. Yeah. Because he may even be innocent. Right. But tell it to Ludnik. That's right, Howard Ludnik.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Don't sue me. Kidding. Well, it's just beyond suing. This is like, the intelligence is he's taking a student and he can't be sued. They're going to find me in the pool. Yeah, you're right. Now. Well, let's just say you brought it out, you're smart enough to. Nobody else was I'm sure it's true. Yeah, they're blackmailing him with Ludnik
Starting point is 00:15:29 I've confirmed that from the FBI and It's not that like did anything wrong But yeah, then you know Here's here's my question. We have just Lane Maxwell sitting in a jail. I Believe in Tallahassee in Florida. We have Alex Acosta, who supposedly there was an unsourced or privately sourced, unnamed sourced person that Vicki Ward quoted saying, Alex Acosta said, I was told to stand down.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Epstein belonged to intelligence. That is why he was not prosecuted. That was the federal prosecutor. Right, to the fullest extent of the law. Why do we not, and by we I mean the Trump administration, the American people demand that Maxwell testifies in front of Congress and that Alexander Acosta testifies in front of Congress and that Alexander Acosta testifies in front of Congress about whatever this operation was. I think me and you have a good idea about what it was,
Starting point is 00:16:32 but it's a vile operation. It destroyed the lives of children. No civilized society can exist ignoring things like this. And it also opens up many questions about a financial system that we barely understand that involves oligarchs, criminals, human traffickers, drug smugglers, and our own political class, by the way.
Starting point is 00:16:55 This is why Nancy Pelosi has been so quiet about this. Let's be very honest, because she has no problem with obviously making lots and lots of money and lots of our politicians. I mean, Barack Obama, you know, these $30 million homes in Martha's Vineyard or whatever they are. Why don't we demand that they testify, Alex?
Starting point is 00:17:17 Well, and you know, Tim, I don't do this with regular people that interview me. I'm not kissing your ass. I was about to go before you said Ghislaine Maxwell testify, I was about to go to this. So that's where I was going next. Yeah. Here's the issue with that.
Starting point is 00:17:35 She's in prison for human trafficking and you've got these lawyers connected to Epstein saying months ago, Alan Dershowitz, Trump better pardon her. And even before Elon came out and said, hey, Trump's in the list, you're never gonna see it, which then has a lot more credibility now. Because of this, it doesn't mean Trump did anything wrong, but he's implicated, he's embarrassed by it The issue with gasoline Maxwell is she's in prison for decades
Starting point is 00:18:10 So you can't trust somebody to testify Who is already not implicated other people but now that she's convicted in prison will maybe she'll say That I was involved in a man being sarcastic But right my point is, is that pressure mounts for Ghislaine Maxwell to be released to testify before Congress. I am of the thought that full disclosure is the way to go. From all my research and sources,
Starting point is 00:18:36 Trump wasn't actually involved in any of this, and they're gonna be able to continue to blackmail that they don't. So I think justice be done by the heavens fall. But the thinking is is if they implicate all these big tech titans like Bill Gates that was heavily involved in all this, and his wife left him over it
Starting point is 00:18:54 and said he should have to answer those questions about saying what he did. If all these Silicon Valley people come out and things, Trump's being told this will crash the stock market, this will bring down America, this is a setup, and I'm not defending that decision, but I can logically from a sick position get it. I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:19:11 I think the world will think we're back in business if we actually exercise all this, these demons, because this stuff's going on all the place as well. The EU's been caught in giant petafol rings in government. This is driving people insane, and I think it's justifiably so that people at the highest
Starting point is 00:19:25 levels can get away with stuff like this and that it can be covered up forever. And I think a lot of people- It's the two tiered justice system. It's emblematic of everything. It's emblematic of everything. What I told Vance, I said, if you don't disclose everything, you're done. I mean, nobody will support you guys. You are fully and completely part of this cover-up if everything doesn't come out. I think it
Starting point is 00:19:49 paralyzes their presidency completely. And what did Vance say? He believes, he agrees with me. He agrees with me. You know like it really is. Yeah even Mike Johnson came out a week ago and said release it. I mean he agrees with me. the calls are coming from inside the house. We know that Benjamin Netanyahu shows up. We then immediately see an about face, which is completely crazy by the President of the United States. And again, I'm not a paranoid Israel hater, but their activity over the last six months is completely insane. They're bombing churches. They're starving people. They're shooting people that are, they bomb, they bomb a Syria today.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Here's the deal. Yeah. I've studied who the main threats, the U S communist China, big financial interest. I'm the guy that everybody said was defending Israel. No, I was just saying they're not the most important block. They're varied, but absolutely. Because we've knocked out the Democrats to a great extent, because they've cut off the USA money
Starting point is 00:20:49 and the deep state money, Israel with Netanyahu sees a power vacuum and is definitely trying a hostile takeover of the administration. So that's 100% going on. Are you worried about these connections with Palantir, using technology to merge all of the different departments so that if you have information on you with the IRS, that's now merging with your arrest record. And if you've attended a protest and whatever the case may
Starting point is 00:21:26 be, we see in the UK people are getting sent to jail for tweets. We see all over the world and we know of course the Chinese social credit score system. This feels a lot like a precursor to that. Steve Bannon has said that he thinks that these tech people are the biggest threat to the stability of the United States going forward Because they have their own agendas that they're cloaking in This MAGA movement. Do you share that view and do you think that Trump has allowed these people to get a little too close and exercise a little too much power in the White House? and exercise a little too much power in the White House? Yes, I think Palantir is a threat. And then I've been criticized by people
Starting point is 00:22:10 that just wanna try to make scores by being nuanced about it. Let's explain what's happening. Oracle, who's also in with Trump, which is a bigger threat than Larry Ells, it's way bigger than Palantir, Microsoft and Amazon. People think of Amazon as packages. No, Amazon runs more servers for the CIA and the NSA than anybody, than that Microsoft is second. This is like a fact. People can look this up. They've already integrated all the databases. They already have all that.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Peter Thiel and Alex Karp, who said, Alex Karp, I help the EU censor conservatives. My main threat is Christian conservatives. Just like, talking about starting to fight. So I'm not an apologist for Palantir, but to my listeners, I've got to give them a real answer. So you notice the New York Times, the Washington Post last year,
Starting point is 00:23:01 we're all about Palantir. And it doesn't mean Palantir isn't an issue. It's that why does everybody know about that? because the corporate media started it. So Palantir has come to Trump and is a big backer of ants. I'm not saying he's bad either. Right. And they have said to Trump, we know how to come in and tell you what's really going on.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Let us have the ring of Mordor and we will fix all your problems. And my point is they are a small little tech who wants to come in and has the technology to do what's already been done. So the idea that this isn't already integrated, it is, it is. It is Amazon, Google,
Starting point is 00:23:44 and these other groups, Amazon. Alphabet, you know, those companies, whatever it is, Meta. Yeah, well, yeah, I mean, I mean, yeah, I mean, Alphabet's above Google, exactly. Right. So it's Google, it's Google, it's Amazon, it's all, yeah. So they're the ones that are currently doing it. It's not like it's all, yeah, so they're the ones that are currently doing it.
Starting point is 00:24:06 It's not like it's coming. So I just told people in their lexicon, it's like you have flashcards for a kid. Here's a tiger, here's a bear, here's a bunny rabbit. And now they go, here's Palantir. Ooh, that's the big tech takeover. No, that's a group that thought with their angles with Trump, they could come in and be put in charge
Starting point is 00:24:25 of the thing that's already there. So I'm telling people, no, it's not that it's coming, it's already there. Palantir is just as dangerous as Google or as its parent company Alphabet, or as Microsoft, or as Amazon, it's Microsoft, Google, Amazon. And I'm saying, if you look up the statistics,
Starting point is 00:24:44 they're 90% of it. The, Google, Amazon. And I'm saying there, if you look up the statistics, they're 90% of it. The grid's already there. Palantir is a usurper, an upstart, a pretender to the throne, trying to come in to give Trump control because the US government's been directing the Googles and the Microsofts and the Amazons to already create a few system that we already have.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Does that make sense? It absolutely makes sense. The reason that Palantir is always a red flag for me is that when Peter Thiel asks things like, should the human race exist? And he kind of stutters and stammers and doesn't really seem to have a, that one seems easy
Starting point is 00:25:23 and he doesn't really have an answer for that. He's also suggested things like maybe people went to Epstein's Island because they wanted Epstein's like advice on their divorce and stuff. Huh, it just seems so. And he also says, he also says, you know, we need to do what I'm doing to stop the Antichrist. Right, so it just feels to me that yes,
Starting point is 00:25:43 they are part of a very large group of companies I don't trust. But it is worth noting that this company is, you know, they want to start helping to surveil Americans more than they already are. I mean, that sort of, or help, you know, concentrate the information or help merge the- Let's be clear. Oh, you said a key point, you said a key point. Google, six, seven years ago, wouldn't even give the Pentagon access to AI, but they give China that.
Starting point is 00:26:17 So that's the key you just hit. Palantir is offering to Trump, but like, look at Denver, already has US-funded license plate scanners. But a month ago, when they were gonna use them to arrest illegals, they turned it off. So Palantir is offering to use the grid
Starting point is 00:26:34 that's already in place for Trump's aims. So what I'm trying to say is, it's not a defense of Palantir, it's that we're way, we're saying we're in the year 2025, we're in the year 2050. I'm saying it's already there. The Palantir thing is a fight about Trump coming
Starting point is 00:26:50 and saying, okay, I'll hire you to explain how this works and give me access. I'm saying it's already all there. No, and I understand that. And I think that I, listen, I don't trust Elon Musk. I don't trust any of the, I don't trust Sam Altman. I don't trust, I don't trust Mark Zuckerberg. It's not because I believe they're inherently evil people,
Starting point is 00:27:06 although they say some things that are inherently evil. I believe their agendas are radically different than if you took an American off the street and said, what are the things you value? Very few of them are gonna go, we wanna terraform Mars and merge with AI and destroy the human race and all of this stuff. So I do think that the tech community, it's important to have a thriving tech community,
Starting point is 00:27:28 but it's important to not turn our country into a digital police state or a Chinese style surveillance state. And I think a lot of those people would probably want to create something like that in our society. You know, that does seem like they would prefer that. Absolutely. I want your viewers and listeners to understand something. Let's just say Palantir is the most evil thing on earth ever seen. It is, it is the devil. Why do we all know about Palantir? And not the other ones.
Starting point is 00:28:01 But we don't know. Yes, you're right. We don't know about Microsoft, Google, and Amazon that are 90 plus percent of the grid that's already there. So we're all learning about surveillance and AI and social credit score and biometrics and social credit. We're already doing it. They're just bidding to get into the trough as a junior.
Starting point is 00:28:21 And so I oppose what Palantir is doing. And everyone else. I oppose everyone else. Of course. and everyone I oppose. Yeah, everyone else, of course I'm just saying it's become a distraction into only them understood Disclosure your sources people that you know How damaging is this if this all comes out?
Starting point is 00:28:42 Do we think that this is a? watershed moment for the United States and Israel? Does this come out that this is what many people feel it is, which is a Mossad-CIA blackmail-up? Or is this basically not not we're never going to definitively know that or will we Will we we have a lot of conjecture we have a lot I got in my head. That's what I believe it was There's enough evidence in my book to say that's what it was But is the disclosure not only will it be embarrassing to people but is it going to suggest that one of our allies? has been
Starting point is 00:29:32 Using these types of methods to gain leverage and control over our politicians And is that one of the big reasons that they do not want it out? Well, that's all true. I mean look look Monica Lewinsky was a massage operative really there. Yeah. Yeah, let's come out They were tapping the White House Monica Lewinsky was a Mossad operative. Really? Yeah, yeah, it's come out. I didn't know that. They were tapping the White House. So, and they don't wanna hit us on some big corruption deal because a bunch of Israeli operatives are involved in all the corruption with our people as well.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Right. They wanna hit you on some limited little sexual thing. And so, yeah, don't, I mean, absolutely. Epstein was mainly a Mossad operative, Ghislaine Maxwell, her dad, all Mossad on record. The media just keeps this debate going, is it Mossad? Is it Mossad? Well, he wasn't officially Mossad, any real operative at the highest level
Starting point is 00:30:14 is an operative. People think he was an operative at lower level, no, a lot of times they're the boss. But he himself was just a manager, Ghislaine was the case manager. This has all basically come out. And this is the leverage that Israel is using over Trump right now to do all this. And my information is it's not Trump himself.
Starting point is 00:30:33 These are all this other stuff to try to embarrass him. Beauty pageants, you know, flying twice on his plane from New York to Palm Beach. And again, Trump was all release it, release it till he got that meeting with Netanyahu that you nailed. But what's more important is this has captured the public's understanding and imagination.
Starting point is 00:30:51 And so it's all about integrity. It's all about getting rid of the deep state and Trump joining with it and defending it. I had on my show today, Mark Mitchell, who is the hands down, you know, they have the best record, daily elections, not just here but around the world from Rasmussen polling. And you know, he said, I'm not a Republican or Democrat,
Starting point is 00:31:10 but I care about the voters and freedom in the future. And he said, I mean, again, the exact number, like 14 points loss with independence. It's a collapse. It's a collapse. It's a collapse, five, six points loss to the most hardcore base. I mean, this is a disaster. Steve Bannon, without seeing polls, said, we'll lose 40 seats.
Starting point is 00:31:30 It's an also, it's overshadowing another interesting and important story. That's that Comey, Brennan, Clapper, all these guys essentially participated in what was kind of an attempted coup participated in what was kind of an attempted coup with manufacturing this evidence that Trump was installed by Russia. Yeah, crossfire hurricane. And that's the key, that was my whole show today was crossfire hurricane is proven. Crossfire hurricane is confirmed that not just Obama
Starting point is 00:32:02 giving orders to clapapper Brennan coming before 2016, they knew Trump was running. They put him under surveillance, the documents are out. They created the Steele dossier. They didn't just let the intelligence out and then not report it was fake. They created it. As Tulsi Gabbard said last night on Fox,
Starting point is 00:32:20 we already have the documents, that's true. I reported this years ago. Do you think Obama is a CIA operative from birth? His mother worked for USAID. His mother was born in Hawaii. I mean, because Obama weirdly comes up all the time as this guy, and I always think these politicians are middlemen, and I imagine that Barack Obama would be like a similar politician,
Starting point is 00:32:40 like a Clinton type, where like they know what's going on, but they're not driving it. Yeah. Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton come out of the CIA and the Dixie mafia and the Chicago mafia. There's whole films made by Joel Gilbert, which I researched. It's well known.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Obama's grandfather was the head of the CIA in Hawaii. His mother was a CIA sex operative. His real father was not in Kenya, but was at the Communist Party USA, had other major newspapers, Frank Marshall Davis. Where do you think he was born? If you had to take a guess. He was born in Hawaii.
Starting point is 00:33:15 Oh, he was? Yeah, it was Obama in four different videos when he was a Senator saying, I was born in Kenya. I'm back at my home country is a fake cover story. And then that guy, you know, that that sub-Saharan Africa that looked nothing like him. You look at Frank Marshall Davis, it's him. And he wrote in dreams of my father's, I spent summers with Frank Marshall Davis in Hawaii. He was friends with my grandfather. He felt like my real father. And it's Frank Marshall Davis. Then his mother in Betty Davis, not Betty Davis,
Starting point is 00:33:48 what's that woman with the dark hair, the famous bombshell 50s pen. Rita Hayworth? No, it's the one that did soft porn. It'll pop my head in a minute. The point is they did that style and in the famous porn that Frank Marshall Davis released, in the same house that's in photos of Obama
Starting point is 00:34:10 with the same couch, with the same pictures, with his mom and Frank Marshall Davis visiting Frank Marshall Davis, it's her with women on the very same Betty Page. It's the very same couch. And it's in famous private porn collections that his mother was you know In all of this was she was a famous CIA sex operative. So you're you're saying that Obama's in it from an intelligence family Well, you said CIA baby, yeah, no that but that's what I feel as well
Starting point is 00:34:40 I mean, I I I and then, and then in fact, Marshall Davis, the main publisher of communist newspapers world, you know, all over the U S is a famous pornographer. Right. Obama says in dreams of my father's, he was like my father. I stayed with him in the summers. He was friends with my grandfather. And his dad's the famous CIA banker. Well, I know people in Chicago that have said that Obama essentially had led kind of a secret double life his entire life and they were shocked when he was polling so well in the election.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Obviously, he was a brilliant politician, but that the media didn't go near any of his secret life the way they didn't go. There's a lot of people that obviously the media is told to stand down, but I know people in Chicago, these large financial institutions that knew him, that were shocked that more details about his private life weren't emerging. Well yeah, and you know, he says every young boy needs a gay man to help lead him now. I'm not against gay people or anything, but it's well known how he's being controlled and so you very astutely said a baby of the CIA He is literally a Manchurian candidate people with secrets are
Starting point is 00:35:53 Seemingly the people that always lead us It seems to be whether you're if you're in the closet if you have a problem with your drugs or money or something like that, leverage is always being used on different people to control them. Because you're compromised. A thousand percent. So Trump, in my estimation, has to just let everything out, no matter how embarrassing it is. Yeah, I mean, he does. And, and I mean, look, the Democrats are trying to put me in prison.
Starting point is 00:36:28 They're openly horrible people. Trump represents a lot of good constituents. I don't want Trump to fail. You know, I got accused by a lot of, uh, influencers and people in the last few weeks, cause I'm on every channel and does nothing for me to be on CNN, ABC news. I mean, I can't realize they have tiny audiences. I don't like to have to come tell the truth on air and have them spend it and use it against Trump and MAGA
Starting point is 00:36:49 because MAGA is great overall and is definitely a force for good. And Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Tulsi Gabbard and Tom Homan, and I mean, they're doing amazing things. And so I don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. I don't do this because I can attack Trump, which I never do. And then, you know, get publicity out of it.
Starting point is 00:37:05 I did it because I have to keep my integrity. And I don't know if Trump can course correct from this. I had the head of Raspi's polling on today. You know, some of us bounce back, but you know, you look at bombing Iran, you look at Israel, you look at Kennedy got it where they were taking fluoride out of the water, the DOJ blocked the lawsuit
Starting point is 00:37:27 that banned it to keep fluoride in the water. Kennedy blocked basically Gleibestate, the Trump administration's keeping it. It's almost like the Trump admin brought in Kennedy so he can menace the chemical companies and Big Pharma and then Big Pharma will just come make bigger donations. And I don't know if Kennedy's sophisticated enough. I'm gonna say something very interesting.
Starting point is 00:37:49 I think obviously poison food in America needs to be dealt with. But Kennedy was talking a lot about these vaccines that were mandated and had a lot of adverse effects. Pam Bondi is now not following up the Pfizer thing you maybe know more about than I do, but I saw that briefly. Her and the White House Chief of Staff run now, only 10 years ago didn't exist,
Starting point is 00:38:11 the biggest consulting firm and their main client's Pfizer. So Pam Bondi and Susie Wiles, who's the White House Chief of Staff, run a consulting firm and their biggest client is Pfizer. Well, that's not great. And even today, the lawyers came out, all the people involved, even in Congress, and said that Kennedy's not even being consulted now,
Starting point is 00:38:43 so people get pissed at Kennedy. He's like, yeah, we're banning that MNRA shot. And then the White House somehow overrides it. And I'm not, yeah, it's, it's, it's I think Kennedy from, from people that I know, I think Kennedy feels like he's frustrated. I also think, yes, get the poison food out. But also Kennedy was coming in there saying, listen, we had these mandatory vaccines, a lot of them had adverse health effects and now that's not being talked about.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Everything's about food diet. Now, by the way, get the food diet out. Sure. But let's not indemnify companies like Pfizer and all these people going forward. I mean, big, big form is it's the biggest. I mean, I mean, I mean the big HHS, double Robert Malone and veteran of the RNA that violently exposed it all. He came out today and said, no, I've seen the documents.
Starting point is 00:39:35 The FDA and all of it authorized these new mRNAs. They literally didn't even consult Kennedy. And somebody giving Kennedy a pass. I mean, this is going on. So it's a big giant operation. Suzy Walls gave him the organizational skills that Trump needed to win. So it's the devil you need, the devil you don't need.
Starting point is 00:39:56 But who was she the chief of staff for in his last election? Where does she live part of the year? She works for Benjamin Netanyahu. Suzy? She works for Benjamin Netanyahu. Suzy? Hmm? She does she works for Netanyahu. She was a chief of staff and his campaign manager. Interesting. I did not know that. We that keeps coming up! Well, yeah, I mean listen, I'm not anti-Israel.
Starting point is 00:40:22 No, no, no, no, listen, we don't even have to keep saying that. We're not anti-Israel. No, but I don't have a hard-on for it. I just, I have responsibility. You do. Like a jack-of-the-box Netanyahu, jack-of-the-box Netanyahu. Remember Netanyahu back during the COVID thing,
Starting point is 00:40:36 said, I want Israel to be the headquarters of human testing. We don't know what this is gonna do. We offer the Israeli people to be guinea pigs to be tested on. Well, that violates the Nuremberg Code. So I'm not anti-Israel. I'm saying, you pull it up, Netanyahu says, Israel's a guinea pig,
Starting point is 00:40:53 and I think Netanyahu's a villain. I think he's crazy. I have great friends in Israel and in America that are Jewish people that are religious. Some aren't, and a lot of them think what's going on in Gaza's atrocious and and That Netanyahu is a criminal and should stand trial but
Starting point is 00:41:11 It is interesting to see that, you know, this administration is starting to Spin out of control It feels like that that's a good way to see it. The first five months or so, it was like almost perfectly on track for what the, and then it just started going sideways and now it's moving very quickly the wrong direction. And I have no interest in them failing my God, the Democrats are literally trying to put me in prison and suing me and all of a sudden, I mean, I, I mean, it's like my life boat I'm in is Trump and then he's poking holes in the bottom of the boat. And then I don't wanna be enemies with Susie Walls.
Starting point is 00:41:48 I don't wanna be enemies. And I can tell you a lot more. I mean, I've had the White House call up and be like, last week, what do you want? Yeah. I'm like, oh, you think I'm doing all this just to get something? I've never asked for anything.
Starting point is 00:42:01 I want you to do what you were elected to do. Yeah. So it went from you're bad, we're gonna have our influencers attack you two weeks ago, to what do you want? Yeah, well they wanted to go away. They want this to go away. And you, I've been listening to you since I'm 12 years old on the GCN network. I remember listening to you before 9-11ven by the way and then direct. Yeah, no no lid GCN network. We're talking like fucking 1999 we're talking to 8-bit internet. I mean Unbelievable, and that's I believe that was a network. You're on was GCN. Yes
Starting point is 00:42:39 Yeah, so that's how long I've been listening to you and that's where I bring you in when stuff like this happens because I often get confused because we all basically say to ourselves what the hell is going on? It's almost like the gas lighting is so crazy because it's like you start, they start going like who said Epstein was a blackmail operation? They're like who said any of this? And you go, why would you suggest he's connected to the Mossad or anything? And you go, wait a minute, hold on.
Starting point is 00:43:09 This has all been kind of decided. There's mountains of evidence. So to attack supporters or people that are just raising questions, of course you're going to have to go out and say, hey guys, we know what you're doing. For whatever reason you want this to go away, it's not going to go away until you disclose the information you have. And that's the problem.
Starting point is 00:43:37 The CIA was involved, MI6 was involved, Mossad was the main group for more evidence. And now that they've implicated people in Trump's circle, he's doubled down, he's totally pick at it, it's a strength and a weakness. And so the polls show it from Raspius and all the other polls show it. This is a death spiral and it's so sad.
Starting point is 00:43:58 And then you got the Democrats that are openly with 350,000 kids smuggled across, a bunch of them in sex, slavery, slave labor. You have Tom Homan, they already saved 35,000 kids, prosecutor over a thousand human traffickers. All this good's happening, and I don't wanna see this happen. But the way this works, and I'm surmising this,
Starting point is 00:44:16 I don't know if this is true, but if Trump makes a deal with the deep state to leave him alone, on the Epstein thing, it implicates intelligence agencies. They go, okay, you gotta have Cash Patel and Dan Bongino and all you go out and say, there's nothing there. And this is what Kyle Seraphim really smart up, he was the lawyer said months ago on my show,
Starting point is 00:44:33 they're being given bad advice to go out and do stuff that discredits them by the very same people acting like they're on their side. So it looks like they made a deal to deep six this for whatever reason. And then the very same media and Democrats then turn on them and now hanging around their neck. And those Democrats say they want Epstein declassified.
Starting point is 00:44:51 They only want stuff with Trump in it. I say release it all, release it all. Release it all is the only way. And maybe depose Alex Acosta and let's find out who told him that. And that's the, again, US attorney that prosecuted him 15 years ago that said he was told go easy, easy intelligence.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Yes. I mean, let's find out. And, and you know, at the end of the day, I think that, you know, I'm not naive. You're not naive. We know that there's serious players behind the scenes that are exerting pressure on all kinds of people. And I know that you can't wave a magic wand and make the deep state go away and you can't, you know, throw them all in jail overnight. But if there's no accountability for this type of criminal activity that everybody knows about the, the lack of, of credibility is going to eat away at not only this administration,
Starting point is 00:45:48 but at the government and the justice system in this country. No, you're right. You're absolutely you've hit the key here. And by the way, I can go as long as you want. We're gonna wrap up in a few minutes. My bladder is about to bust. Can I just run pee and I'll come right back. Go run pee and come back. I'll just pee on air right now. You can run and pee and I'll vamp while you're there. I'm good at it. I talk my whole show. I'm like you. I actually just pee on air, I know. You can run and pee and I'll vamp while you're there.
Starting point is 00:46:05 I'm good at it, I talk my whole show, I'm like you. I learned how to do this with you, I just talk, I don't even have guests. No, no, no, but what I was gonna say is, just like the made up stuff Trump peed on, that was all fake, so the other side, I have such no belief in the established media because they lied so much, back in one minute.
Starting point is 00:46:23 I'll go as long as you want. I got more stuff to add. Go pee. I just can't think. I understand. Alex Jones is taking a pee break, ladies and gentlemen. And now it's time to tell you about Athletic Greens, the company that dropped me for talking about Alex Jones.
Starting point is 00:46:40 I did one ad on my show about Athletic Greens many years ago. And we did it from Alex's studio and they dropped me. So here's what I'd like to say about athletic greens. You know, one day my friend took athletic greens and he died. He put athletic greens in a water bottle and shook it up and then he drank it and now he's dead. Athletic greens killed my friend.
Starting point is 00:47:03 I don't know why it happened. Maybe it wasn't Athletic Greens. Maybe it was just some type of a random medical emergency. But I bet it was the Greens. He was frothing at the mouth. He goes, Oh no, what's happening? And it was green stuff was coming out of his mouth. He was going, I can't believe it. It's athletic greens. I'm dying. It's killing me. I knew it was fake. This is as he's dying, he goes, I knew it was fake anyway. You don't get healthy by putting a violet green shit in water. It's a lifestyle. I knew it was fake, I just thought I'd take the easy way out. And then he just started going, and he was having a seizure
Starting point is 00:47:40 because of Atlantic Greens. Now I'm just saying, they can sue me, I'll sue them back But I'm just saying it's comedy show everything I'm saying is a joke, of course, obviously full disclaimer date kill my friend They did drop me. We tried to get them back. I performed at Carnegie Hall We said how about you guys come we'll give you free tickets to my show We're sorry. Who do you think's taking athletic greens? You think they're all offended by Alex Jones? Who do you think these people are that drink this you think you're offended by this? Alright, thank you. Come. Thank you. Welcome back Alex Jones. I was just shitting on an advertiser who dropped me because No, you're talking about athletic greens.
Starting point is 00:48:17 I took athletic greens and my dick got three feet longer. No, they dropped me. I dream they dropped me because I said athletic greens on the show with you years ago. I got an earpiece in when I ran. But back to the incredible thing you just said. Yes. Yes, this is a benchmark deciding issue. Because they killed Epstein all the coverups people learned about it. And then now Trump made a big issue. I'm sitting in the office here. So him saying, don't look at it, don't talk about it.
Starting point is 00:48:50 He's not that stupid to do something like that. And so the whole thing makes no sense. It is a disaster. We need change. He's brought in a bunch of good people. It's so sad, but because of integrity issues, I can't sit here and play along with it. And all the evidence points towards
Starting point is 00:49:09 Mossad blackmailing Trump. And I just wonder how we're supposed to get out of this. And I hope he can fix it because normally an incumbent president that wins the first election, they lose the house and Senate. The numbers according to the pollsters, he was gonna, we were trending to win. He was getting record numbers with everybody.
Starting point is 00:49:29 A lot of the fundraising came from very big donors, people like Mary Maddelson and stuff like that, that have a lot of political connections in Israel, obviously. And I think there's probably pressure from that avenue as well of people that spent a lot of money to help Trump get elected that are probably telling him,
Starting point is 00:49:50 let's make this go away. Let's not have this be an embarrassment or worse. Video cut out of you there. Sorry, yeah. Did you hear me? Yeah. It's coming back. Am I back?
Starting point is 00:50:10 You are back. Okay. Yeah. I said that. What is that? Is that a devil on your, is that Hillary Clinton on your, on your? No, this is a lobster. It's the summer.
Starting point is 00:50:20 See, that's like a, It's the summer. It's like those, that's like those ink. Yeah. It's like those ink blots. See, what does that say about me? I don't see a lobster. I see a devil. I like it's the summer. So when the lobster's over and it goes to the fall, we put a pumpkin.
Starting point is 00:50:39 I like it. Yeah. We try to make it nice while we talk about international, you know, sex trafficking, cults and this, that, and the other thing. By the way, Hollywood stands to probably get very embarrassed if this comes out too. Cause this is not just political. There's probably a lot of big people in Hollywood. Let's be honest.
Starting point is 00:50:54 Let's talk about who we know is heavily involved. You had a clear blackmailing operation against high tech people, science people, vaccines, genetic engineers, Harvard, massive Hollywood, the Clinton, Steve Jobs wife, the Atlantic Monthly owner, Atlantic Magazine, all those people. And that's my big frustration is that we know they're all in there. We know it's all going on. And by Trump doing this, he's now joining with them. And he did it in such a terrible
Starting point is 00:51:22 way as saying you're not part of our organization if you question this which then backs up the left's claim that MAGA is a cult. Well, I'm not Nicole So how are you processing this because I'm not a lesser to evil sky, but overall Trump administration is a lot better I think the Democrats but at the same time is an integrity issue because I become an accomplice by extension Okay, Ellen, okay, you, by joining on the coverup. Agreed, I process it the same way you process it. I think securing the border, having the American working class regain ground,
Starting point is 00:51:57 and trying to provide a standard of living for people and not opening the borders, They've done that in the UK It's caused tremendous strife. They're now putting people in jail for tweeting about Social and cultural issues in that country gotten 15 trillion committed five trillions already flooded in I mean he got in this new economic everybody's a lion here the Federal Reserve Yeah, the establishment won't give him interest cuts. I mean, yeah, I mean, he is still the Maverick. Here's what I know, and I'll give you the inside baseball, and I hate to do this.
Starting point is 00:52:30 Do it. I started hearing this about a year ago from people really close to Trump. He was 78 then, he's 79 now. And then all the trials, all the pressure, all the demonization, he doesn't crack up, but at a certain point he becomes a really grumpy old man.
Starting point is 00:52:47 And now I knew this months ago and I kind of mentioned it, but I didn't want to attack him and give them fodder. But it is an issues that incriminate him. It's not Epstein stuff. It's not something that can be a problem. They'll bring in some side issue and he'll scream at him and say, I only want to hear about stopping World War III, bringing jobs back, securing the border
Starting point is 00:53:06 and defeating election fraud. And he gets really mad now. He didn't used to do that. And other people that talk to him, a week and a half ago saying, sir, you got to stop defending this and you got to stop the Epstein cover up. And these people he's known for 30 years, 50 years,
Starting point is 00:53:20 he'll just say, fuck you then and hang up on him or kick him out of the Oval Office. So it's not just that he blew up about this. He's been and it's good to have a guy that doesn't give a crap Sure at a certain point For fighting corruption, but when he doesn't give a crap about his constituents We're kind of experiencing, you know what the establishment is experiencing So I love him doing that to them. But with us the optics are really bad So I love him doing that to them, but with us, the optics are really bad.
Starting point is 00:53:44 So that's where it- Who is he listening to? Who is he listening to? People say Stephen Miller and Susie Wiles have the most outside influence in the administration. Do you think that's true? Yeah, I'm not defending Stephen Miller, but from my sources,
Starting point is 00:54:00 he basically has the beat on the border and domestic stuff. It's Susie Wiles. And I hate to demonize her, you know, I'm not trying to come after her. I was warned upfront she was bad news. And anybody that wants anything has to go through her. I just know her consultancy firm has gone from small to number one.
Starting point is 00:54:21 And- And Bondi and her good buddies, very tight. Is that the case? and Bondi and her good buddies, very tight. Is that the case? Well, absolutely. Well, they were the same consultancy. Right. Is it weird that they have a huge consultant firm, but they're also both in the White House?
Starting point is 00:54:38 It's a major conflict of interest. Yeah, seems so. So it's not quite, it's not quite a hundred Biden level stuff or 10% for the big guy. And again, I'm not trying to say they're the only problem. It's just that it, look, look, a lot of it is it's complex. It's huge. A lot's going on. And Trump is trying to be pragmatic. But if he thought he could make deals with the deep state and like, sir, the CIA and Masada implicated, let's shut this down. They walk into the trap and now oh
Starting point is 00:55:06 by the way that stuff we raided from the Democrats it's all about you and it doesn't mean it's real I already predicted it's recycled it's recycled BS about Trump and that's why I think that's why we're seeing this any part of him that says they'll kill me because they tried to uh you know they maybe tried to in Pennsylvania, you know, where very few people are satisfied with the explanation of who that, you know, would be assassin was, Thomas Matthew Crooks or, you know, he had no online footprint. We didn't know that much about him. The media has only recently started to kind of put out a narrative about him.
Starting point is 00:55:41 But that was clearly a big brush with death. Do you think that there's any fear in that sense that Trump goes, that the people are playing for keeps? I mean, I think that's at the end of the day. I mean, I think overall Trump wants success for America. And he's pragmatically trying to pick the best direction, but there's a new video out that's viral everywhere about look on July 13th.
Starting point is 00:56:12 I just saw that, yes. Yeah, on July 13th, you see the film crew being waved up after he shot, it shows us a production. Well anybody that's been in a presidential speech of Trump or Obama or any of them which I've been to, or Bush, W or any of them, I've been to all those. You have the Secret Service directing press up, directing press back, they tell you
Starting point is 00:56:36 when you can be there, when you can't. He gets shot, he falls down, they wave him back, he pops back up, they let the press in, these are TV productions. So people seeing that production and then thinking, oh, it's fake. No, the whole thing is a production, but I know ballistics, I know rifles.
Starting point is 00:56:55 They didn't have real people shooting in him. And then they just perfectly grazed his ear. And you can't fake real like that. You can't fake the acoustics of another shooter or a guy getting killed or other people getting shot in the background. I mean, the greatest directors all fused together, Steven Spielberg, you know,
Starting point is 00:57:19 Francis Ford Coppola. Anybody, right? Scorsese. Nobody, nobody can do that. Nobody can carry that out. That was real. His ear got grazed. These Democrats hold up the cartridges in the bullet
Starting point is 00:57:32 and go, something this big hit you. No, it's this big. And when it grazes you, that's exactly what it does. And cause long story short, I got shot with 22 caliber pellet when I was 11. And it hit my ear and butt a lot, but the hole was closing like a day. Just went right through the side,
Starting point is 00:57:49 had the same thing happen. Kid named Mike Hamby shot me, it was an accident. But the point was, is that my grandmother's ranch, the point is, no, no, that was real. And all the lawfare and all the indictments and the mugshot and the persecution I've gone through was real. And because of that failing and because of what happened,
Starting point is 00:58:10 they're now trying to spin that and make it go away. But people then see, oh, they pushed the media back. Well, if you go to any debate or presidential deal, they tell the media come forward, they tell them come back. And then once Trump pops back up, they're like, okay, he's okay, you can come back forward. Because they're producers, they're filmmakers that run this,
Starting point is 00:58:30 they're trying to get iconic shots for videos or put out for Trump. And so they all seem shot, they get scared and run back. Then he pops back up, it's normal. Okay, they creep back up, bring the cameras back up. You got a bunch of Pulitzer Prize winning photographers
Starting point is 00:58:43 there, but they've got to do what the Secret Service says. So people go, oh, that's a production. Well, when Trump goes the NFL game or the World Cup game, that's a production. Doesn't mean the game didn't play. Doesn't mean it wasn't real. So yeah, it is a production, but it's a production that is of a real event that's happening. Before you go, what do you think Netanyahu wants? I mean, they bombed Syria today.
Starting point is 00:59:06 The Gaza thing's insane. They seem to be hinting that they're not done with Iran. I've heard from people, and there's articles out. I mean, this is not a secret that they don't, I don't think they feel like enough damage was done. They want to do more. What do you think, ultimately ultimately in Trump's four years they would like to see Netanyahu would like to see?
Starting point is 00:59:30 Like what would be their goal here? Would it be to reconfigure Gaza in the image of what they would want? I imagine that's on the table. Is it another attack on Iran? What do you think it is? Well, this I'm an expert on. How much time do I have?
Starting point is 00:59:52 Any, as much as you want. Oh, geez. All right, Benjamin Netanyahu has been in power off and on for 25 years. And previously he represented the most right wing aggressive Israelis. And when Yishat Ramin got in their way, it's on record, the group associated with him killed him.
Starting point is 01:00:14 And now they've gotten Israel so radical, we can call it right wing is what the media calls it. Just let's just say Israeli supremacists. So I'm trying to compare it to Hitler, but the closest thing you're gonna get is like racial supremacy. You know, we're taking over. It's ironic for sure.
Starting point is 01:00:33 Yeah. Yeah, we're the master. Well, look, they're gonna drive a group out of their homes into the desert. That's what Pharaoh did to the Jews 3,000 years ago. I mean, it's like the pogroms. You know, that was wrong to the Jews, it's wrong here. I'm not saying the Muslims are little angel cakes or perfect either, believe me, that was wrong to the Jews, it's wrong here. I'm not saying the Muslims,
Starting point is 01:00:45 the little angel cakes are perfect either, believe me. They're not little angel cakes, but I get it. Yeah, the optics are not good. Right. And so a lot of the Israeli leadership was like, you know, quit, I mean, even Michael Savage is American citizen, great guy, pro-Israel, but he came on my show two weeks ago
Starting point is 01:01:02 and said Netanyahu needs to go. Right. According to all his sources, I mean, they've taken Israel from being one of the most popular countries in the world to the most, did you know Israel in international polls is the most unpopular country in the world? Yeah, they've had a rough couple of years
Starting point is 01:01:14 in terms of their- So you ask what's going on with Netanyahu, Netanyahu, until three years ago on record, you pull up articles, was the main funder of Hamas. Right. Israel set up Hamas and funded their creation to discredit the PLO. So if you got one group you don't like,
Starting point is 01:01:34 put a new more radical group in that challenges them. And then people forget about it later and you blow them up next month. Like I said, eight months ago, when NATO, Turkey and Israel on record overthrew Assad after 18 years of trying or 17 years, then I said, I bet in six months, they're trying to overthrow the new Al Qaeda leader.
Starting point is 01:01:55 Well, Israel's now bombing and trying to take him out. Which is a one dimensional thing, sounds good. I don't like the leader of Al Qaeda and ethically cleansing non radical Muslims and Christians and Druze and others. But Israel literally ran field hospitals for al-Qaeda and bombed for them and put them in as destabilizing force. Just like Netanyahu's predecessors,
Starting point is 01:02:18 Likudniks, when they were in power, created Hamas. So then you have October 7th and this stand down, this little armed camp, incredible Israeli intelligence, one of the best militaries on earth, that's not hype. Seven and a half hours, nobody responds to Hamas breaking across the fence and grabbing all these Jews. Right. I mean, my God, you fart in Israel,
Starting point is 01:02:40 they'll shoot a missile up your ass. So, and then Yahu admitted there was a stand down, the army blamed him, he blamed them. That was a couple of years ago. He said, when the war's over, we'll investigate. Well, for Netanyahu in power 25 years, serious heart problems, indicted, he stays in power by having crises.
Starting point is 01:03:03 And so it really comes down to him and his party. And they don't get have elections for five months under emergency declaration. They can't even have elections because of this emergency. So he stands to gain, the weapons maker stand to gain with billions a week in weapons being spent. Aran's no angel cake, I'm not interested in them, but if you go back to Wesley Clark, 20 something years ago,
Starting point is 01:03:28 he goes to the Pentagon, which is declassified now, and they go, the next five years, we're taking out seven countries, Iran's the last. Well, they got Syria eight months ago. The last one is Iran. And it's not just about getting that Gaza strip. Right. Under international law, Israel gets 12 miles out
Starting point is 01:03:47 and they've got one of the biggest gas fields un-drilled because the conflict, I mean, it's more rich than, you know, off the coast of Texas or Louisiana. And so there's trillions of dollars and they've already built a pipeline up through there that goes up to Turkey. So Turkey is involved,
Starting point is 01:04:06 Erdogan acts like he doesn't like Netanyahu. Those guys are on the, they're Siamese twins, they're joining the hip. And so it's all, and the US is involved, wants to act like it's not because it wants to stop the Belt and Road out of China and all the way through into Russia and Europe. They want this other pipeline they're building up
Starting point is 01:04:26 into Europe out of there. And there's gas all the way up from Israel, Lebanon, Syria, all the way. And so Israel wants to build the main industrial shipping hub for shipping liquid natural gas and the pipeline up to Europe. It's got probably more gas than frickin' Alaska. I mean, it's got more gas than Kauai,
Starting point is 01:04:48 more gas than areas there where Russia intersects with Ukraine. This is one of the richest gas fields in the world, trillions and trillions of pure liquid natural gas and oil. It's near surface, by the way, it's not deep. And so it is a gold mine. So you hear Jared Kushner, I'm gonna build condos here and these weird AI videos with Trump, it's gonna be so beautiful.
Starting point is 01:05:12 And Saudi Arabia wants to come in and offers to pay to make it all nice and you give all the Palestinians jobs. That's all a cover. The hotels and the swimming pools and casinos are nothing. It's that hub. Cause the Southern hub, you can say, well, there's natural gas all the way from right there in the Mediterranean up to Syria, but you gotta have the hub at the start of it for the pipeline to come up out of Israel.
Starting point is 01:05:39 Right. So this is not even debated. So we're talking, they're saying like $7 trillion in current numbers just off the coast of Gaza. You add it all up, it's over 20 trillion. You can leverage that. Then you have the military control. Israel is never actually, other than by Tel Aviv,
Starting point is 01:05:59 they've never had a proper port. And so this is about strategic alliances and control and blocking China. So I don't want to just blame Israel and all the Israel. It's all about the U S acts like I Trump. Oh, please do a deal with Gaza. Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb the next week. You know, eight years ago, doesn't again, Oh, please don't hit Gaza. No, the U S and its interests are absolutely aligned with Israel. Well, no, I mean, in that sense, I think you're right. What is the end game in the Ukraine? We are still cutting big checks.
Starting point is 01:06:32 We're still spending a lot of money. It seems like we're trying to get that country nuked. Hopefully, there'll be a deal in place. The vice president said he thought that was a very big possibility. But it seems like the policy of America is to push Putin into a corner until he uses some type of tactical nuclear weapon. I mean, I can't see any other end game here. Well, as usual, your analysis just, you know, yourself is accurate. is accurate, the head of France's finance, the head of their military, the head of Sweden, Germany,
Starting point is 01:07:07 the UK have all said the last two years, you can look this up, they said, our business plan is a 20 to 30 year conventional war with Russia that will bankrupt Russia, will finally break Russia up in five parts. Well, that didn't work. Russia's outperforming weapons production, conventional munitions, artillery shells three to one,
Starting point is 01:07:23 drones three to one. So that's not working. And so the EU's collapsed financially, it wants this. And you've got, just like Vietnam turned out with McNamara, he later admitted this before he died in the documentary, oh, it was just a big war game and to make money. They wanted a place where they could have won
Starting point is 01:07:45 very quickly bombing the North. They could have won, you know, destroying it, but they never did that because it was just a way to pump. I mean, LBJ made like back then, be like 20 billion, now like 3 billion himself, just off dredging out the ocean and, you know, putting in ports. So it's all a giant war game.
Starting point is 01:08:03 And you've had for 15 years, the US and Soros overthrowing government's Ukraine, stirring it up, poking Russians. And then they don't care as long as they can keep it going. They've laundered $300 billion in just the last few years. And it's all a big weapons laboratory. And so to them, they don't care. And it's, I mean, now they're talking about
Starting point is 01:08:26 30% of the EU budget now going to Ukraine. Psychotic. For the next, yeah. So, so a war is a big black hole that you can launder money through. And at the end of the day, Putin's more popular than ever that he's in a war. Like it's's not the Iranians and Netanyahu go wink-wink Right. The mullahs are super unpopular now. They're popular, you know, Putin was already popular. He's even more popular, right? It's not like they go wink-wink, but war is the health of the state You know, if you go back to the movie on Henry the eighth Called the king Which is a true story
Starting point is 01:09:02 he finds out at the end that his ministers have a rebellion in England with the Scots and the Irish and the Welsh, which is all true story. These letters are public now. They've been public for hundreds of years. And his French cousin, they're really all just Norman from William the Conqueror. They're not even French or British.
Starting point is 01:09:21 They're all Vikings that conquered France and England. And they don't tell the new young king because his other brother died, so they had to have him when his dad died. This is a true story. And so he goes and has to have a war with France and all his buddies die, he wins. And this minister comes to the end
Starting point is 01:09:41 and says, you did a really good job, we staged all this. That's why he meets with the King of France, even though he killed his son, he goes, great says, you did a really good job. We staged all this. That's why he meets with the King of France. Even though he killed his son, he goes, great job. You're really a real leader. And then he meets with the head minister and the exchequer head goes, we staged all this for you, sir. Now you've put down all the rebellions.
Starting point is 01:09:55 You are now the true King of England. And he kills him, which is a true story. He pulls a dagger out, because his best friend died and stabs him to death, learning this whole thing was staged. Real people died. It was a real war, but it was totally staged to put down rebellions in France and in England.
Starting point is 01:10:10 And now that's how the real world works. Psychotic, unfortunate, I hope the Trump administration comes clean. It's the only way forward. People in this country need, you cannot have the abuse of children go unchecked, you cannot let foreign governments have leverage over our government and influence that, you know, makes us, you know, completely ignore all of our principles. Not to say that we are passive or that we are little angel cakes,
Starting point is 01:10:42 as you would say, we're certainly not, but everybody, we need to get all the information out and I appreciate you, I think you're doing an amazing job and I love that you still come on my show and I really appreciate you and a lot of people do. I'll come on any time, I've been begging to come on your show, I wish you'd come to Austin, but let me just add this final point.
Starting point is 01:10:59 Yes. These Machiavellians think because they think in all this twisted, tindi chess that they're smart. No, it's sick. You said it earlier. This big economist, Martin Armstrong says, we're very close to nuclear war. Rand Corporation does.
Starting point is 01:11:12 We understand conquest. We understand duplicitous, but with nuclear weapons and with biological weapons and with 9 billion people, we have to stop the conquest economy. We've got to have real peace. And we keep hearing about all this peace, but it's not, it's got to stop because it could get out of control.
Starting point is 01:11:29 You ask, will there be nuclear war? Yes, on the threat escalation ladder, it goes from one to like 44 in the Rand Corporation. Everybody uses the same model. We're at like 35 now. A few more, remember two years ago, Biden said we can't give F-16s and Abrams tanks, that's World War III,
Starting point is 01:11:44 because it goes up the escalation ladder. We're now to, Trump met with Zelensky two years ago, Biden said, we can't give F-16s and Abrams tanks, that's World War III, because it goes up the escalation ladder. We're now to, Trump met with Zelensky two weeks ago and said, maybe we'll bomb Moscow so they'll stop. You see, it just goes and goes and goes. It keeps going. And the elites would rather destroy the world than sacrifice their positions of power. Exactly, they've got their bunkers,
Starting point is 01:12:04 like Dr. Strangelove is based on a true story when Curtis LeMay and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, LL Lemmiser come to, when they came out in 64, made in 63, it's all declassified. And I know giving Kubrick and all the inside stuff, but it's just what films made on it,
Starting point is 01:12:17 this is the final thing. Curtis LeMay, the Deputy Head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the Joint Chiefs of Staff, LL Lemmiser, look this up folks, they come in the last year of the Eisenhower administration. Supreme Allied Commander, super hardcore, was mad at the Germans and said, well, there's only food for other people
Starting point is 01:12:35 who will starve two million to death. Wasn't like he was a pussy at the end of the war. They come to him and they say, sir, we're gonna bomb our own military bases and shoot down our own planes, and we're gonna blame the Russians and bases and shoot down our own planes. And we're gonna blame the Russians and say the Cubans did it. We've got a plan to sneak attack Russia.
Starting point is 01:12:50 And we think we'll only lose 20 million Americans in their nuclear response. But if we wait a few years under mutually assured destruction, they'll be able to take us out. And he fired them. Yeah. And then they tried to come back and Kennedy fired them.
Starting point is 01:13:03 That's Operation Northwoods. The movie, Dr. Strangelove was leaked basically to Kubrick and he made the film to show what happened. They were literally in meetings talking about mine shafts and how he could get gross domestic product up even in the worst case scenario, they knocked out most of the population. And they came to Eisenhower and then they tried again,
Starting point is 01:13:24 guess who the adjunct of LL Monser was? Who? Like 27, Donald Rumsfeld. Wow. So when you see 9-11 and the project of American Century, it's the same people. And then Dick Cheney, he brought in. So this is literally the ghost of LL Monser
Starting point is 01:13:41 and the ghost of Curtis LeMay. The movie, Dr. Strangelove is a documentary of what almost happened. The Cuban Missile Crisis, declassified. The US put Nike missiles on the border of Russia in several places, including Turkey, medium range nukes. Russia put nukes there. I'm not a Russian, I've never been to Russia.
Starting point is 01:14:02 The point is that we're all told in school books, oh, the Russians put medium range nukes in Cuba because they're assholes. No, Khrushchev was on TV saying, get your missiles out. But our media was so controlled, nobody knew. We put missiles on their border. So it's the same story. It's not the average American's bad.
Starting point is 01:14:20 It's not that Eisenhower's bad or Kennedy was bad. We have these crazy power mad generals. And now what have we done? We've put missiles on Russia's border. That's what Russia said a year ago. They said, you've already are hitting us every day with medium range hypersonic missiles. We can't stop.
Starting point is 01:14:33 If you hit us two or three a day, we won't respond. But if we see a large aeronautic attack of hundreds or thousands of missiles, we have to believe it's a nuclear stick attack because that's how they can shoot. These things go Mach 5, Mach 10. They can take out all the Russian bases. Most of Russia's weapons are in the West.
Starting point is 01:14:48 Most of Russia's are in the West. And they say, if you shoot a bunch of these, we gotta go ahead and nuke you because we've gotta believe it's a nuclear sneak attack. That's why we're so close. You ask, are we close to nuclear war? The Atomic Energy, you know, scientist group out of Chicago, the most respected,
Starting point is 01:15:04 that looks at, has said we are the closest to nuclear war. The close, remember you heard two minutes to midnight? It used to be two minutes to midnight. We're something like 20 seconds to nuclear war now. So with the Cuban Missile Crisis, that's two minutes to midnight means total nuclear war. The last time I checked were 20 seconds from midnight. That's your answer.
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