The Tim Dillon Show - 466 - The Real Katie Porter & A Special Guest
Episode Date: October 18, 2025Tim discusses California Governor candidate Katie Porter and her recent string of bad press, Trump being Trump, Zohran Mamdani’s vision of New York, ICE taking over Chicago, and the Young Republican...’s leaked text messages. Tim is also joined by a very special guest who shares new information on the Jeffrey Epstein saga. American Royalty Tour 🎟 https://punchup.live/TimDillon SPONSORS: Factor Eat Smart at https://FactorMeals.com/TIM50OFF & Use Code “TIM50OFF” To Get 50% OFF you first box + Free Breakfast for 1 Year Ethos Protect your family with life insurance from Ethos. Get up to $3 million in coverage in as little as 10 minutes at https://ethos.com/TIM Application times may vary. Rates may vary. Prize Picks Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/TIM and use code TIM and get $50 in lineups when you play your first $5 lineup! Helix Go To https://helixsleep.com/timd For 25% OFF Sitewide! Kalshi 'Who Will Be The Next Governor Of California' Market: https://kalshi.com/markets/kxgovca/california-governors-race/kxgovca-26?utm_source=timdillon ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ Subscribe to the channel: https://www.youtube.com/@TimDillonShow?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram: https://instagram.com/timjdillon/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/TimJDillon Listen on Spotify! https://open.spotify.com/show/2gRd1woKiAazAKPWPkHjds?si=e8000ed157e441c8 Merch: https://store.timdilloncomedy.com/ For every $400,000 we gross in revenue, we are donating five dollars to end homelessness in Los Angeles. We are challenging other creators to do the same. #TimGivesBack
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Tim Dillon show.
There's clearly a lack of trust in the government, and a lot of it centers around the FBI.
So here to clear the air and answer some questions is the director of the FBI.
Please welcome Cash Patel.
Hello, buddy.
Cash Patel here.
Cash is the name and the game.
Thank you, Cash.
I appreciate that.
Thank you for joining me.
Can you tell me anything at all about Jeffrey Epstein?
Oh, well, he was very tall, and he lived in New York City, just like Empire State Building.
Yes, yes.
Bigger, bigger, bigger, much taller.
Yes, I understand that.
But he had this island, and, you know, that's what we're all curious about.
What the hell was he doing on that island?
Women, swimming, drinking a lot of a coconut.
That was nuts.
Yes.
Or having sex with children.
Yes, but that's the part, Cash, that we're really curious about.
Can you tell us more about this island and how it operates?
You know, every food delivery robot works for FBI.
And it does.
Okay.
Every food robot works for the FBI.
I see what they see.
if you block one of the robots on the sidewalks,
you know, to get the delivery, no food, nada, nothing.
Yes. Yes.
And making me wait.
Yes.
To bring the food to the person.
Well, that's not good.
Cash, can you at least tell me about Thomas Matthew Crooks,
the guy that shot President Trump?
Who?
Well, Cash, can you tell me anything about what's going on at the FBI
right now? What have you learned since you've taken over the FBI?
Oh, I've been so busy with FBI.
You know, I thought, for me, I thought it was a federal Bureau of Banking.
I didn't know which stands FBI.
I thought FBI stands for Federal Bureau of Investments.
That's what I thought it was.
You thought it was more of an investing thing?
Yeah, banking investment, you know.
And our cash is the name.
And that's the game.
That's right.
That's right.
I agree.
Do you enjoy your job at the FBI?
Is it a fun job for you?
It has been so much fun, you know?
Every day I sleep under the covers.
And I do, you know, because I'm so busy.
Well, do you have anything else to tell the people, anybody, any final thoughts to people that may not trust you or they may not trust the FBI?
Is there anything that you want to say to them that might make them feel better?
I am sorry. I've been such a Pisces because I've been solving all the crisis.
I apologize. I mean, I do, you know?
Yeah, well, well, that's good.
Well, listen, Keshebata, I think a lot of people, you've cleared up a lot today.
I think I did, actually. I mean, you know, you know, ask me anything you want to.
You know?
Well, yeah, yeah. Well, no, just, you know, a lot of people think your girlfriend is in the Mossad.
What do you say to that?
Massad doesn't do it.
Massage does it.
Like she does it.
Massage, you know?
Not massage.
Massage.
Well, Cash Patel, I thank you again.
You're such an important part of our country.
And we hope that you continue to work as hard as you've been working.
I've been working so hard.
That's the reason I've been sleeping under the covers.
Yes, yes.
Yes.
Well, that makes a lot of sense.
Cash Patel.
everyone, and we'll see you in Valhalla.
Wahala?
Wahala to you.
I thought Wahala.
Wahala.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Tim Dillon show.
A good friend of the show, Katie Porter,
running into a little bit of trouble.
After a couple of videos have surfaced
of Katie Porter acting like herself,
Katie Porter is a
The woman from the whiteboard
If you remember on this show
We talked about the white board
Where instead of actual change in America
We have this theatrical
Show every few years
Where a senator, congressperson, whatever
Will show up to Congress
And put like a Jamie Diamond type
On the hot seat
and that was Katie Porter
she did the whole thing with the whiteboard
she was writing all these letters
and she's like
you know all these numbers on the board
and she's like well
how would somebody that's paid
what you pay them even live
how would they even live
and Jamie Diamond is like I don't know
CEO of Chase is like I was
I don't know how anyone lives
and and everyone's like
yeah she got him she got him
and then of course nothing
you know happens and I said
you know on the show Jamie Diamond
probably gets on his job
And afterwards, it goes, who is that?
Can we kill her?
What's going on?
But if you're a CEO of an American company, every few years, it is an established fact, and
it's built into your calendar and your schedule that you're going to have to go take a
performative beating in front of Congress and then nothing fundamentally would change
about the way that you did business.
Katie Porter was that person who would come out like an angry mob.
Cut it out back there.
You picture her, like, sitting there.
Yeah, here we go.
Let's watch a little bit of the whiteboard.
Just give you an idea of what I'm talking about.
Do you know?
I do not know.
14.4 billion.
What's 40% of 14.4 billion?
So, 52?
Yeah, the CEO never knows.
Pretty good math.
5.6 billion.
Now, by the way, there's people in a hospital bed going, how does this, is this going to, is this going to turn in my favor?
And the answer is no.
The answer is no.
But it is entertaining because you go in front of Congress and Katie Porter goes, by the way, and that's how she got famous.
This is how Katie Porter gets big.
This is how she catches the national attention.
She brings in the CEOs and she shames them.
She brings out her whiteboard and she has that character.
Everyone is a character.
And her character is crazy like she's a mom and she's had enough.
That's her character.
She's a mom and she's had enough.
You can picture her in the minivan and it smells like a dog and there's two kids in the back
and they're throwing french fries at each other.
And she's had enough.
And if you're a mom that's had enough in America,
Katie Porter is your person.
She's not a glamorous woman.
She's not especially articulate.
But she is a ball of energy.
And it's all brute force with Katie Porter.
She's going to tell you the deal.
So now, it's nice to watch her abuse.
And after these videos came out, by the way, over at calshy, calshy.com, this, you know, this great site that looks at people's chances, and you can bet on it and make money, her chance of becoming governor in 2026 has plummeted from 40% to 18% on Kalshi.
And one of the reasons is because people like Katie,
Porter aren't just Katie Porter when it's Jamie Diamond.
And it's actually childish of Americans to think that.
This is actually something that many of you should have been.
And this is not an endorsement of Katie Porter, by the way, I don't really care if she
wins or not.
It doesn't matter to me.
But I will say it is childish of America.
This is something that Americans do all the time because a lot of you are children,
hopefully not the people that listen to this, but many of you are children.
and children believe in fairy tales.
And the fairy tale that many people believed about Katie Porter
was she was only Katie Porter when it was necessary.
She was only that rude, you know, boisterous woman
fueled by this fiery passion and it would only ever get
directed at CEOs whom you disliked.
That was what, that's a fairy tale.
No one is just that when it counts.
Truly, no one is just that when it counts.
Katie Porter's Katie Porter, is Katie Porter is Katie Porter.
If you fuck up her restaurant order, she's Katie Porter.
If you're Jamie Diamond who runs Chase Manhattan, she's Katie Porter.
If you're her staff, her husband who she dumped hot mashed potatoes on his head,
you're Katie Porter
Now the idea is
you should want a woman like this
You should want a cruel abusive woman
Because the president now is cruel abusive and petty
And his followers love it
Because he's also very funny
She's not as funny
But the pearl clutching about Katie Porter
And people going
Oh but she's a vicious monster
That's what you want
That's what you people
actually want.
So again, now let's watch what I'm talking about.
Many people don't know what I'm talking about.
But I just want to say this before you play this video.
Katie Porter is not a nice person.
She's not a pleasant person.
You wouldn't want to have lunch with her.
She's unhappy.
There's many things in her life she's unhappy about.
But that's the perfect person that you want.
You want someone who walks into the governor's mansion, angry.
Newsom's not angry.
He's good looking.
He's got a hot wife.
he's a con artist and a criminal
and he's just scamming people left and right.
He believes in less than nothing.
Not nothing. That would be something.
Less than nothing.
Katie Porter is an angry,
vicious,
like junkyard dog.
A dog outside of a scrapyard
who scares the children walking by.
I don't know if that's the worst type of person,
but grow up.
Of course she's not just angry at billionaires.
She's angry at anyone and everyone.
Can you imagine being at Katie Porter's house for a holiday
and how terrible that must be?
How horrible it must be to be in her home for a holiday.
The stress, the tension, the silences that are only punctuated
by her cacathous, witch-like howl.
But by the way, you kind of want that.
Don't you want that?
That's kind of what you want.
What do you want this woman to be nice?
She shouldn't care about her aid.
She shouldn't treat her aid especially nicely.
She shouldn't be terrible to her aid.
But here's the thing.
Katie Porter is going to treat.
It's not if it was just her aid, it wouldn't be right.
If she was just treating people in a lower station than her,
wrongly that wouldn't be right she doesn't know how to be nice to anyone that's my point my point is
not that you should abuse the waiter the waitress to cook the chef i tip people a lot of money i remember
when i had shitty jobs i'm not saying any of that is right i'm saying this woman is incapable of being
nice to anyone it does not exist you've never seen it from katie porter she's incapable of doing it
It's why she's effective in the sense that she's been able to get into Congress.
It's why that she's known nationally in the media as somebody.
She's a bitch.
That's it.
Full stop.
To everyone, she's going back through the McDonald's drive-thru in Orange County.
She's going back through.
The barbecue sauce is not in the bag.
It's not in the bag.
or she's parking the car and she's going in
she's going in and she's cutting the line
she's cutting the line
she doesn't know how to be nice
Katie Porter everyone friend of the show
rule savings for our economy
so I'm on the oversight committee you might know
and that is where we did a study
look how nasty by the way
look at this everyone's going to get mad about her
yelling at the aid look how nasty
she's being right now
it's not even a particular
particularly controversial question.
She's angry. She woke up angry.
She just wants to eat French toast.
She's so angry right now.
Keep going. What it showed is if we
don't electrify
our transportation sector,
that we're going to lose more than half a million
Californians dying prematurely
to air pollution and other problems.
And the state could lose
out of my fucking shot.
I wanted to tell you that that's actually
you can correct. It's not that it's electric
vehicles, it's that if we don't
need the commitments under the Paris climate
court. Okay. It does.
So now, see, here's the deal.
She's got another Bumbaddy.
She's hiring Bumbaddy's, Faddy Bum Badi's.
Everyone's blood sugar
in that house is low.
Let's just be honest. Everyone's blood sugar
in that house is low. Everybody
needs a fish taco
yesterday.
Katie Porter is
angry. But Katie Porter took her
medicine. The girl came in, the Boombaddy came in and said,
oh, hey boss, you're actually wrong about what you're saying, boss? And then Katie Porter goes,
yeah, well, you were in my shot before. Go to the other thing, uh, where she's, um,
Katie Porter is walks out on an interview. Because the woman at CBS just said the, the easiest thing
ever, she's like, what are you going to say to Trump voters? And she's like, why would I need them to win?
now all she had to say all Katie Porter had to say
because this is the easiest question in politics
you always get this question
what are you going to say to the other side
that's the question it's the easiest question in politics
and all Katie Porter had to say was
I think people no matter who they voted for
all care about the same things
they care about their family
they care about their economic security
they care about their communities it's the easiest
to answer I could give it
and I'm a comedian and a podcaster
you know and whatever else
epithets are thrown at me on the internet
but I could have answered that question
and anyone could
Katie Porter doesn't want to
why she's angry
she's angry
that she didn't leave the house in time
she's angry that the dress she bought
doesn't look the way she thought it was going to look
she is pissed
and this little blonde bitch
who's sitting in front of Katie Porter
asks her a question and Katie Porter
goes fuck this hack
Katie Porter in her head goes she probably
fucked her way into this
job. She's a fucking brain dead bimbo. Why should I have to talk to her? I am Katie Porter. I bring
out a whiteboard in Congress and I scream at billionaire CEOs. Why am I talking to this fucking
trollop? But it's the easiest question in politics. By the way, I couldn't think of an easier
question, literally. It's the easiest question because it allows you, the easiest questions in life
for the ones you can redirect, like, in the sense that, like, you have these prepared talking
points. Somebody asks you a question and you go, glad you brought that up. Boom, boom, boom. You hit
your points. We believe in strong family, strong community. Dang and crime. Crime. Deck. Choice.
Be them. Deak. Easy. Easy. Let's see what she does with it. Easiest question in politics. How does
Katie Porter respond? Let's go.
3% of California voters who you'll need in order to win who voted for Trump.
How would I need them in order to win, man?
Well, unless you think you're going to get 60% of the vote.
You think you'll get 60%?
Everybody who did not vote for Trump will vote for you.
That's what you're saying.
In a general election, yes.
If it is me versus a Republican, I think that I will win the people who did not vote for Trump.
What if it's you versus another Democrat?
I don't intend that to be the case.
So how do you not intend that to be the case?
Do you, are you going to ask them not to run?
No, no, I'm saying I'm going to build the support.
I have the support already in terms of name recognition.
And so I'm going to do the very best I can to make sure that we get through this primary in a really strong position.
But let me be clear with you.
I represented Orange County.
I represented a purple area.
I have stood on my own two feet and won Republican votes before.
That's not something every candidate in this race can say.
If you're from a deep blue area, if you're from L.A. or you're from Oakland.
You don't have an experience.
But you just said you don't need those Trump voters.
Well, you asked me if I needed them to win.
So you don't think you need to them. I feel like this is unnecessarily argumentative.
What is your question?
The question is the same thing I asked everybody, that this is being called the empowering voters to stop Trump's power grab.
Every other candidate has answered this question. This is not argumentative.
And I said, I support it.
So, and the question is, what do you say to the 40% of voters who voted for Trump?
Oh, I'm happy to say that. It's the do you need them to win part that I don't understand.
I'm happy to answer the question as you haven't written, and I'll answer it.
And we've also asked the other candidates, do you think you need any of those 40% of California voters to win?
And you're saying, no, you don't.
No, I'm saying I'm going to try to win every vote I can.
And what I'm saying to you is that...
Well, to those voters, okay, so you...
I don't want to keep doing this.
I'm going to call it.
Thank you.
Easy, here's the thing.
It's an easy question.
Katie Porter is easily flustered.
And this is what happens to people that are easy.
flustered.
They crash out, as the youth would say.
She crashed out.
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But again, Katie Porter doesn't know how
to be another thing.
Neither does Trump.
People just like the thing he is,
or enough of them like it.
Trump doesn't know how to be something else.
Trump is always Trump.
He's always Trump when he's in Israel,
and he's doing the thing with Miriam Madison,
and he goes, you know, hey, I ask Miriam,
what country does she like better?
Israel or America?
She refused to answer.
That might mean Israel.
He's always doing Trump.
he's always, you know, I mean, this is amazing.
Take a look at this.
And this is, again, you would think if you say to yourself,
a lot of people in America have gotten really tired of BB Netanyahu
and frankly of Israel at this point.
And it's because they feel that groups like APEC,
and people like Mary Madelson have too much influence on U.S. politics and that the war in Gaza, which hopefully is ending over whatever, I mean, there's a lot of, you know, there's a lot of, there's a lot of talk about it not being over, but let's just, it's over for this week on this show.
but a lot of people in this country
are questioning the relationship
between Israel and the U.S.
Now he has a major victory here.
Now, whether it holds or not, I don't know,
but he has a major victory
where this thing kind of ends
and he could just walk away
somewhat unscathed
and I don't mean unscathed, meaning like,
it's still, it is a very,
it's very tough to imagine
that younger generations will support Israel
the way that older generations have right now,
if you look at the numbers.
But the open wound
of Israeli influence on American politics,
there's nobody that symbolizes that
probably more than Miriam Madelson,
a Republican megadoner.
This is Trump being Trump doesn't know
how to not be Trump. Play this.
Miriam, stand-up, please.
She really is.
I mean, she loves this country.
He's being playful.
He loves this country.
Her and our husband are so incredible.
We miss him so dearly.
But I actually asked, I'm going to get her in trouble with this,
but I actually asked her once I said,
So Miriam, I know you love Israel.
What do you love more?
The United States or Israel?
She refused to answer.
That means, that might mean Israel, I must say.
So, I mean, he's being playful,
and you realize that this,
moment. This is when he did the I Wish Her Well with Jisleine Maxwell and this is how rich people talk about
people that have had problems. The mega rich, there's a, there's a playfulness. And they don't
realize how damning some of what they say is while they're being playful. Because, and I know this,
because I know more rich people now than I ever have. And what they will reveal in a moment of being
playful can be very substantive and damning.
But again, to them, they are just kind of poking and prodding and having fun, which is the luxury
of being a billionaire or a centimillionaire.
There's a luxury to not taking it.
It's not that serious.
That's really what this thing comes down.
I asked her, what country did she?
like this one or that one and she didn't answer she might mean this one he's having fun that's something
he would have said at a dinner table with friends he's saying it in front of the world because
he doesn't know how to be anything other than Trump that's it's just something to be said there
are certain politicians who are are liquid and they go into the shape of whatever container
that is holding them.
I've accused AOC of being kind of like this.
You know, where she's to the left and then not and then critical of Israel and then not so much.
And then she's in front of a Jewish group and she's claiming to be partially Jewish.
Whatever.
It's just not, you know.
Obviously, Lindsey Graham is clearly like this, right?
A guy who just, he hates Trump.
He loves Trump.
He's a neocon.
He's a popular.
It doesn't really matter.
he's just doing what he thinks he needs to do to survive politically.
But then there are people that are like Trump and Katie Porter,
they don't know how to be anything other than what they are.
So eventually what happens is the moment meets them.
The moment meets them.
Trump got elected during a time when we were about to run another Bush Clinton campaign.
And everybody was bored.
And then he comes in and the moment meets him.
just like Katie Porter doesn't know how to be anything other than this angry mom
with a stain on her shirt who's had enough.
I've had it up to here.
So nobody knows, yeah, Katie Porter verbally abused, then husband, an explicit tired.
Fucking idiot.
Too fucking dumb to operate a phone and she dumped hot mashed potatoes on his head.
That's what she did.
Katie Porter wants dump scolding mashed potatoes on her then husband's head.
during a fight resurfaced divorce documents
alleges clips of her fiery temper
continue to go viral
she's got a temper
she's an angry woman
she's a potato
hurling witch
but don't write her off
I think that would be a mistake
I think that would be a little bit
of a mistake
I don't know that Katie Porter's done
politically she might be
she very well might be
but if the Democrats want to play in the sandbox,
you're going to need people like Katie Porter.
You know, Zoran Mandami's about to win in New York.
And a lot of people ask me what I think about that.
You know, I'm a New Yorker.
I've grown up here.
I grew up on Long Island.
I'm also a Muslim, and I'm from Uganda.
And that is a lot of things that I share was Zoran.
Zoran.
Here's the way I feel about this.
There are lots of things I disagree with Zoran Mandami on.
I don't love the idea of all the public safety stuff,
the free buses.
I think there's a chance he over-regulates and over-taxes
and businesses leave New York
and that crime will spike
because he's going to send out this group of people
with, you know, clipboards as to mental health
you know, instead of actual cops,
you're going to have psychopaths on the street
and then the people that are going to be responding to them
are like this mental health brigade
or whatever they're going to build
who will not be armed or trained in the use of force
so they'll be out there like reasoning with a guy in a subway
who just chuck someone in or whatever.
I don't know.
And I'm being a little facetious,
but I'm also not because that's what they want to do.
Maybe it'll work.
I don't know.
And I don't, I don't, I, I want it to work.
Whatever they want to do, I want to work.
I don't want, I want the city to thrive and function.
It's the greatest city in the world.
I'm not one of these people who goes nuts over politics.
You know, I really don't.
I don't think there's a lot in the world that changes your life more than politics.
And we're going to talk about it a little bit in a minute and it's, in its AI.
Half of your feed now is AI.
You didn't do that.
you didn't request that you didn't ask for that to be the case it just is that wasn't political
that's not something necessarily that uh congress did half of your feed on your phone is
artificial intelligence now maybe more than half some of you may be less than half
but over the last and by the way i'm talking in the last three weeks i'm not maybe even the last
weeks, you know, to be honest, I'm not even talking about over the last six months to a
year. I'm not talking about gradual implementation. I'm talking about massive content dump of
AI. A lot of it is fooling even people like me, not people in my parents age. Some of it,
I go, this is really a lot of it you can spot, but some of it is really good. And young people
are getting fooled by artificial intelligence.
So when people focus only on politics,
they're ignoring a lot of these other cultural trends
that shape their lives much more than politics does.
But I hope that this guy comes in,
the sky doesn't fall.
People go, oh, he can't get everything he wants done.
I'm hoping that it's not a standoff between him and Trump.
I don't want that to be the case.
you know, I don't like the ice raids.
I've said before, I think they're inhumane.
A lot of them are heartless.
I think all in all, people look at them,
and they are, they don't feel good about being an American
when you see a grandma who lived here 30 years
or a father of a Marine zip tied or deported,
a guy who raised three Marines who's lived here 30 years.
I don't think any I don't think there are people that are for that obviously but a lot of people aren't um that being said if you encourage ISIS of federal they're federal officers so if you encourage people to attack federal officers block them from carrying out a raid if you're encouraging that behavior you're starting a civil war I mean that's just what it is now I don't
I don't think it's going to take the form of a civil war where you have two sides fighting.
But if you're encouraging people to violently attack federal employees, you're going to start a situation like you have now where you have National Guard in cities.
So even though you are against these raids and you don't believe they should be taking place, the goal is to win elections to prevent them.
The goal is to create local, you know,
municipality ordinances that reduce the likelihood of them.
The goal is to hold employers feet to the fire
who hire illegal labor instead of Americans.
But you can't encourage people to go and attack the ice in the street.
because that will be used as the pretext for a massive deployment of military in the streets,
in the cities.
I mean, that's really the case.
And we haven't seen the Insurrection Act.
I hope we don't.
But if you keep pushing and people are physically attacking or blocking ice vehicles with their cars or doing things like that,
The response is going to be great.
It's just what's going to happen.
People get mad at me on the show when I tell you what's going to happen.
And you go, oh, I don't want it to happen.
And I go, well, that's great.
I'm telling you what's going to happen.
Literally what's going to happen.
So you can't, you can't do that.
You can't just attack.
I don't, again, there should be a happy meeting.
or a place you can arrive in this country
where you go, we need a border, we need laws,
some people do need to get deported,
some people need a path to citizenship,
we need to prioritize American citizens,
we need to talk about citizenship in America
like it means something,
we can't just destroy the idea of citizenship.
You know, there needs to be some happy medium there.
And you need to,
to find that and hopefully somebody finds that.
You can't let 10 million people in like Biden did
into a country that's already struggling
with vast amounts of wealth and equality.
Very hard to assimilate people that are already here
into an existing economic and political structure.
So you have to find that space
where it's not pure chaos
where you're sitting in a restaurant
and then ICE shows up and is dragging people
out of the back of the restaurant.
There's got to be.
a way to not live in that chaos.
I mean, you would think, you would hope.
There should be a way to do it.
And I'm not an expert exactly on how to do it.
I have thoughts that you don't need to have masked people that are, you know,
that are just kind of terrorizing communities and showing up and grabbing people
and people leave their house and they're never seen again.
you know, they're running through a, what is this?
They're running through a, what a Walmart?
Walgreens in Chicago.
Yeah, I mean, like, again, this is chaos.
It's absolute chaos.
Get the fuck out of here.
Get the fuck out of here.
He's a citizen.
He's a citizen.
He's a citizen.
He's a citizen.
Yes, I mean, again, this is, it's absolute and utter chaos.
And it's something that is going to lead to clearly to worse things.
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Because the other thing is the pendulum swings.
Why are all these young kids Nazis now?
and they're leaked text.
And maybe they're not Nazis.
Maybe they're kidding around, right?
Maybe they're blowing off steam.
I don't think people should lose jobs for leaked text.
But I also don't think, I know a lot of young people that are being very, that are
radicalized.
And they're radicalized on both the right and the left.
And the reason that they're being radicalized is because they don't feel like they have
a future in America.
And that becomes, they embrace pathologies.
And on the right, it's the Jews did it.
And on the left, it's the white.
patriarchy does it and on both sides whether you're far to the right or far to the left
when you when you go to those extremes and you start rehabilitating the legacy of mass
murderers Hitler Stalin whatever it is because you've given up on the idea that you're going
to have any type of productive life and that's terrible and and those conditions if
been created, not overnight, but they've been created where younger people have become
radicalized. On the Israel question, younger people have been radicalized in the space of a year,
probably, or maybe even a little more than that, because a lot of the things that are coming
out are so blatant and absurd. And it's clearly obvious that Adelson and some of these donors
went to Trump and went, we can, you know, you'll win. We'll give you.
of the money, you'll stay out of jail, but we want
X, Y, and Z. And these
are all the kids on TikTok, and these are all
the kids that are looking at
the bodies of two-year-olds
that are being scattered. And then we
have, you know,
uh, Mike Huckabee
performing this number.
And,
I mean,
and this is
hard to not get radicalized seeing this.
I mean,
is crazy.
Torah scrolls keep on turning.
I mean, do they want everyone to be a Nazi?
I'm starting to think they want everyone to be a Nazi.
There's no explanation.
for this.
There's zero explanation for this.
I mean, there's
I read those Republican text messages
and a lot of them are, listen,
I don't know these people.
They're not kids, right, during their 30s.
And they are saying all this fucked up crazy shit.
And again, I think the goal,
and I've said this on Rogan,
the goal of any,
And I don't know who's kidding, who's not, again, I'm not like leak the text and fire everyone.
But I do think it's worth noting that radicalization on many sides of the political spectrum, but is happening.
And when you see Huckabee performing sweet home yeshiva, whatever it was, whatever it was, sweet home, sweet home Jerusalem.
this is causing, I mean, what could the point of this be if not to turn people
radical on this issue? And you don't want it. You don't want Nazis. You don't want
fascism. You don't want communism. They're the same thing. They're authoritarian structures where
you view everyone outside of you as an enemy and you want to kill them. And it only leads
to violence, truly.
It only lead this tribalism
and the identity politics
only leads to violence.
But then you look at some of this stuff
and it feels inescapable.
You go, well, of course,
when I, as somebody who's been
out of the closet for 15, 20 years,
when I saw
five-year-olds at drag shows,
I said the pendulum swing
is going to be huge.
And we're going to go back to, like, you know, the Catholic Inquisition.
People don't hate gay people.
People don't really care what other people do.
Yes, some people do.
Some people do.
There are extremists.
There are, you know, that Fred Phelps gang and others like them.
Right?
I'm not ignorant.
But what I'm saying is most people in America are not sitting in their houses hating you.
They're just trying to survive.
They may disagree with you.
They may not like you.
They may not have any experience with you.
but when you
when you push
an ideology on people
when you tell them
we're going to destroy
your understanding
of what a man is
what a woman is
and we're not we're not going to say
this is just the way we feel
and we're going to say
this is going global
and everybody needs
to subscribe to it or you're out and we're going to fire you and shame you and if you don't
if you don't play our game you're out the minute you start doing that people start looking at
their kids and their families are going i'm losing control of the only thing that i have
which is my family my children our values i'm losing control of that
to schools. I'm losing control of it to the government. I'm losing control of it to the
entertainment industry. And that's always been a theme of America is that you had to fight
because all of these things, the food is poison. You had to fight. If you wanted to keep your
family healthy, you had to fight. These were all things that have been part and parcel of a country
where we let, you know, these multinational corporations pillage.
But I look at this stuff.
I look at the Adelson stuff.
And I look at this guy playing.
I mean, and I can't think, are you trying to make people anti-Semitic?
It's so, you're laying it on so thick.
Which is the exact opposite of what anyone's,
should want. Tribal identity politics is the exact opposite of civilization. It's diametrically
opposed to civilization. Civilization goes, you're from here, you believe this, I'm from here,
I believe this, we're cool. The opposite of that is sectarian warfare. It's the Middle East.
It's Africa. It was the Balkans where people are murdering each other and they don't see
each other as human beings. Israelis do not see Palestinians as human beings.
Palestinians do not see Israelis as human beings.
They've been thoroughly dehumanized.
They celebrate each other's deaths.
What just happened with Charlie Kirk?
This guy gets shot, murdered, assassinated on live TV.
There are people celebrating his death in the same way
that somebody would celebrate the death of someone in another tribe
in a third world country.
And that should wake people up.
I don't know that it has.
And I'm not saying it only goes one way.
But I'm saying in that climate,
in that climate,
you might not do better than Katie Porter.
You might not do better than Katie Porter.
you might not do better than this angry, kind of chubby, petty, vicious mom
who doesn't know how to be nice, who doesn't know how to be nice.
How are you going to blackmail Katie Porter?
How does Netanyahu blackmail Katie Porter?
I don't know.
But maybe he does it.
Maybe Katie Porter burns it all down.
Because we're getting very close to a time in this country.
We're going to have to make a choice.
We're going to have to make a choice.
It seems very obvious to everybody.
We're going to have to make a choice between something that feels like a civil war but isn't,
where it's not going to be people, the battle of this and the battle of that.
But I'm talking about lots of American cities on fire, a broken economy.
an irreparably broken political system
which some people think we have already
and I haven't studied it enough
to know that we do or don't
it feels like we're on the verge of it
we're going to have to make a choice
and it's coming sooner
rather than later
because the next phase
after that
is Palantir
that's the plan
it's obvious
The next phase after a good few years of burning and violence and unrest will be we will walk into a surveillance state willingly and happily because they will provide order.
And I think we do we do have to believe that.
I walk around and I look and I look at people
and the vast majority of people out there
are not living and dying on the political.
Thank God.
Thank God outside of politics in this country,
we have things people like sports,
entertainment.
to whatever degree it's left.
We have public spaces.
We have entrepreneurship.
People are trying to get something going
and make a couple of dollars.
Without that, without those things,
without getting up and going,
how do I make a dollar today?
Without getting up and going,
how do I lose weight?
How do I better myself?
How do I meet a woman?
How do I start a family?
Without any of that,
you are left with the inevitable.
And all the people on the internet
that keep talking about, you know, a national divorce or all of this.
None of this is bloodless.
It's all bloody.
And everyone loses, left, right, everybody, truly.
So what you need to do is figure out a way to take the temperature down.
You have to take the temperature down in this country.
It's not going to work.
if everybody, if you look at someone who thinks differently than you as an enemy that you need to destroy,
you're, you know, you're, it's not going to, you should look at them as your political opponent you want to beat.
That's different than an enemy you want to destroy.
And I've talked, listen, I've had the dinners, I've seen the people, I'm telling you what's coming.
It doesn't involve you.
it doesn't involve me
although I'm pretty good at getting in
so maybe it will
but let's just say it won't
let's say it won't
I'm not helping myself
going out and getting green
into the race
that's what we're doing here
we started the show on a porch
now we're getting green into the race
I'm getting calls people going
what are you doing I go what do you mean
what am I doing we're having fun
I'm picking the president
What's the problem
I'm picking your next president
Leave me alone
But I'm saying
We got to make a choice
Stop with this
Everyone's so snarky and rude
And I get it
I get people are pissed
Zoron is
The natural
coming of left populism.
People are angry.
I mean, listen,
these people went to good schools.
They did the right thing.
Blobody, blah, blah, blah.
They have no money.
They can't own anything.
They barely have health care.
They're stuck in a gig economy.
And they're not, you know,
and they're not happy about it.
So Zoran is the guy.
We've created the super rich
have driven the economy off a cliff
for even people that did the right thing.
never did the right thing in life, so I never expected anything, by the way. It's why I have
things. Interesting. But it's, I never did the right thing. So when you don't do the right thing,
you don't expect anything. I was doing cocaine at 14. When you do cocaine at 14, at 27, you're not
like, where's my driveway in my house? I never did the right thing. I dropped out of college.
I did the wrong thing. But everyone who does the right thing, and they, you, they pin a little
pin on themselves. And they go, well, I graduated, soon become a lot.
I talk to these people.
I go on dates with some of these people.
I sit there and they go, I, J.P. Morgan and I, you know, 57 interviews.
Yeah, you know, and they're all having heart attacks at 25.
They're throwing themselves out the window because they're just, you know,
they've done the right thing.
They went to the right school and they got the right internship.
And now they're living in the right city and their whole thing.
And they have the right job.
And they're working for the right guy.
And they want to show them that they will kill themselves to make a dollar.
I never did any of that.
I never expected anything.
I didn't have health care until five years ago.
I had no money in my bank.
I had none of it.
But talking to people who'd done the right thing in their entire life,
they're pissed that they're not getting anything for it.
They're mad.
They're unhappy on the left and the right.
They graduate college.
The job market sucks.
They can't buy a house.
They go online.
and they say, what's this guy Hitler about?
Okay.
Or they go online and they go, you know, people say Stalin was a mass murderer,
but you know what?
Why?
And they're angry.
And I get it.
But anger in America can't,
anger in America can only take the form of Katie Porter,
unless we'll destroy our country.
Anger in America really has to be productive.
It can't just radicalize you into being a nut job who lays around all day,
gooning and watching live streams.
You have to be productive.
Katie Porter's an angry woman, but she's in the game.
She's in the game.
She abuses everyone she's ever met.
But that's American anger.
She wants to have pancakes, but she knows they'll make her tired and she'll want to sleep.
That's American anger.
look at that kitchen she's in oh my god it's so gross it's so gross but she's a pragmatist
and we need people like that psychopaths who tell people that we need to be having violent
insurrections or we need to be cheering on the death of a political opponent people like that are
trying to tear the country apart people like katie porter are ambitious and they're and they're cold
and they and they're and they're mean but she's actually not a threat to the country she can only
be a benefit she can't destroy the country because she's too busy destroying herself and that's
what we need to get back to.
Our politicians have to destroy themselves and not us.
And that's why Katie Porter is so powerful.
The strength that takes her not to hit someone, physically punch a person.
The amount that she has to put into just not ramming someone with her car.
The fantasies she has in her head about what she wants to do to people are,
are 10 times worse in that Republican group chat.
The things in her head, the anger, the rage, the murderous rage every day, every minute.
But Katie Porter is all of us.
And we need someone that.
Look at her shit kitchen.
It sucks.
It's so gross.
You can't, if any sauce splatters, it goes right on the wall.
It sucks.
She lives in a dump.
She doesn't have any money.
She has a fucking old white fridge.
What are you in college?
It's gross.
And there's nothing on it.
Nobody's invited her to anything.
There are no cards.
Nothing.
Because she's angry and toxic and miserable.
But in a way that is uniquely and dare I say, beautifully American.
Because like Donald,
Trump. She doesn't know how to be any other way. If she could, she would. If America could have been
Sweden, we would have. It wasn't in the cards. Don't count Katie Porter out. She's
regrouping right now. She's eating burnt ends. Burnt ends. Burnt ends.
in a parking lot in St. Louis Abispo or somewhere.
And I'm telling you, I like Rick Caruso better.
I prefer him. I much prefer him to her politically.
But he's not that interesting. He's just a rich guy with a dog.
That's all Rich Caruso is. He's a rich guy with a dog.
I can't really do much on him. I do like his policies better. But who cares?
He's just a rich guy, and he's got a great golden retriever.
I see him in Beverly Hills. The point is this.
Katie Porter is America's hate pig.
Do you understand that?
And she's an essential part of our economy and our lives and how we see ourselves and each other.
She represents something deeper and more American, just like Donald Trump does.
We're all the casino gambler full of shit.
I run casinos.
I have Miss Universe pageants and, you know,
Now he loves God.
It's a, it's a P.T. Barnum, he's a showman.
He's part of us.
It's part of who we are.
This woman is also part of who we are.
Online at the drive-thru, angry, angry.
Fantasizing about her husband opening the door
just so she could start screaming at him.
The kids in the backseat, the fat little kids,
sticky with barbecue sauce.
She thinks she wants to be like Susan Smith sometimes
and just drive them.
into the lake.
That's what that woman did.
She drove them into the lake many years ago.
Google it.
It doesn't matter.
Don't you Google it.
I mean, out there in the darkness.
But this woman is a uniquely
American woman, just like Trump.
These are archetypes.
This is who we are.
That's why we see them and we freak out.
We see Trump and we freak out and we see Katie Porter and we freak out.
We don't like seeing ourselves.
It's actually something we don't like.
It isn't nice.
We like to think America's like, I don't know.
You know, I don't know, Tom Cruise in Mission Impossible.
That's not what it is.
It's Tom Cruise in real life, a secretly gay guy in a cult.
That's what it really is.
It's not him in the movie, you idiot.
This is who we are.
And when we see who we are, but it's also who we have to be.
This is who we have to be.
Whatever's after this is worse.
Whatever is after this is worse.
So clean it up, beat the tech people back,
get some safety on the streets,
allow people to participate in a reasonable amount of scams,
just enough to keep them happy.
People need to feel like they're in the game here.
And the super rich have driven the economy off a cliff.
Nobody feels like they're in the game.
So they're inventing another game.
and you don't want them to do that.
So I don't live in California anymore,
and it's illegal for me to vote for Katie Porter,
but it doesn't matter because I think they let people illegally vote there.
So I will go and vote illegally for Katie Porter
just because America right now badly needs a dose of itself.
An understanding of who we are,
not pretending that we're perfect or that the people that disagree with us
are somehow worse than we are,
the core guttural level of who we are as Americans
is that we've inherited this kind of amazing place.
And because of our selfish behavior across the board
have kind of created this horrible nightmare
that we all inhabit now.
And then we're looking for a way to make it just a little less horrific,
just a little nicer, just a little kinder, you know?
I mean, that's what most people want.
They just want to live.
You only get so much time on Earth.
And the people like Katie Porter are the avatars of our nightmare.
They are the pictures of our madness.
Her madness is our madness.
The traffic, the drive-through line being too long,
the inability to not eat the bad thing,
to not violently act out,
to not dump the potatoes on the husband,
the rage,
the anger, the cauldron of burning fire
inside of this woman, the ambition.
This is who we are.
And we have to tell us,
take a long, hard look at it.
It's not going to change overnight.
We're not going to simply become different people overnight.
We have to grapple with this.
We have to wrestle with who we are and we have to see the value in it.
Katie Porter has a utility.
America has a utility.
There are still things we have.
We've got land, resources, people.
Got a strong military.
We've got money.
We've got a lot of shit.
Let's not flush it down the,
toilet don't flush katie porter down the toilet okay get into the toilet with her throw her a life raft
get into the toilet with her and start screaming because that's the only thing that might save
us thank you so much good luck