The Ultimate Human with Gary Brecka - 103. Brad Slater: The 10-Week Journey to Ultimate Health & Performance

Episode Date: October 8, 2024

How a Hollywood power agent transformed his life in just 10 weeks and you can too! Gary Brecka interviews Brad Slater, a senior talent partner at WME. Brad shares his incredible 10-week journey that transformed not just his body, but his entire life. Brad's secret weapon? Consistency and commitment. He went "all in" for those 10 weeks. You could be a completely different person by Christmas. Are you ready to make the change? Connect with Brad Slater: Follow Brad Slater on Instagram: https://bit.ly/3U30oQi Follow Brad Slater on X.com: https://bit.ly/4eAFy2K Follow Brad Slater on LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/3U1PUQX 00:00 ​Intro of Show and Guest 05:25 ​Getting into Hollywood Talent Agency  14:22 ​Merging of Entertainment and Sports Worlds 18:02 ​Brad and Gary‘s Journey Together 35:58 ​Stripping Out of Folic Acid 38:02 ​Brad’s Mindset and Mentality 46:54 ​Good Actor vs. Great Actor 51:30 ​Favorite Biohacking Devices 56:50 ​Brad’s Advice to People  1:02:20 ​Final Question: What does it mean to you to be an “Ultimate Human?” GET WEEKLY TIPS FROM GARY ON HOW TO OPTIMIZE YOUR HEALTH AND LIFESTYLE ROUTINES: https://bit.ly/4eLDbdU PLUNGE - USE CODE “ULTIMATE” FOR $150 OFF YOUR ORDER OF THE BEST COLD PLUNGE & SAUNA IN THE US: https://bit.ly/3yYE3vl EIGHT SLEEP - USE CODE “GARY” TO GET $350 OFF THE POD 4 ULTRA: https://bit.ly/3WkLd6E ECHO GO PLUS HYDROGEN WATER BOTTLE: https://bit.ly/3xG0Pb8 BODY HEALTH - USE CODE “ULTIMATE20” FOR 20% OFF YOUR ORDER: http://bit.ly/4e5IjsV KETTLE AND FIRE PREMIUM & 100% GRASS-FED BONE BROTH - USE CODE “ULTIMATEHUMAN” FOR 20% OFF YOUR ORDER: https://bit.ly/3BaTzW5 Discover top-rated products and exclusive deals. Shop now and elevate your everyday essentials with just a click!: https://theultimatehuman.com/amazon-recs Watch “The Ultimate Human Podcast with Gary Brecka” every Tuesday and Thursday at 9AM ET on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3RPQYX8 Follow The Ultimate Human on Instagram: https://bit.ly/3VP9JuR Follow The Ultimate Human on TikTok: https://bit.ly/3XIusTX Follow The Ultimate Human on Facebook: https://bit.ly/3Y5pPDJ Follow Gary Brecka on Instagram: https://bit.ly/3RPpnFs Follow Gary Brecka on TikTok: https://bit.ly/4coJ8fo Follow Gary Brecka on Facebook: https://bit.ly/464VA1H SUBSCRIBE TO: https://www.youtube.com/@ultimatehumanpodcast https://www.youtube.com/@garybrecka Download “The Ultimate Human with Gary Brecka” podcast on all your favorite platforms: https://bit.ly/3RQftU0 The Ultimate Human with Gary Brecka Podcast is for general informational purposes only and does not constitute the practice of medicine, nursing or other professional health care services, including the giving of medical advice, and no doctor/patient relationship is formed. The use of information on this podcast or materials linked from this podcast is at the user’s own risk. The Content of this podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical condition they may have and should seek the assistance of their health care professionals for any such conditions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How is it possible that I know more about my car than my body? Wow. This is crazy. I was 255 pounds. All of a sudden, my injuries started popping back. A lot more inflammation. Work out like an animal. Couldn't drop a pound.

And it just felt like someone pulled the plug. Like the switch was off. It didn't feel right. And then along comes you educating me about your guts connected to your brain. And so that explains why I'm more stressed out than usual. And it's all tying together. What has this shift in your health done for your career and your mental health? I start getting on the supplements and working out, lifting weights, walking. I remember where

I was standing. Literally, I can go to the spot in my backyard one day when I go, oh my God, I feel totally different. Really? I'm getting goosebumps, man. I love hearing that. I don't think you have to have a mental illness to focus on your mental health. All of our lives are peaks and valleys, but I deal with things much differently because I'm like, you know what? I'm being tested right now, but I've been doing all the things to take care of myself. I'm ready for this test. I think so many of us have accepted this erosion of our baseline sense of normalcy. And we're like, okay, well, I'm supposed to have brain fog because I'm old. What would you say to those people? You talk about getting to the root cause of the problem. Instead of treating people

for their ailments, you're treating people for their... Ultimate Humans. Hey guys, welcome back to the Ultimate Human Podcast. I'm your host, human biologist, Gary Brekka, where we go down the road of everything anti-aging, biohacking, longevity, and everything in between. And today you are in for a plot twist because we have a senior talent partner from WME on the show today, a good friend of mine that I've been on a health journey with for quite some time. Your list of clients in Hollywood is a who's who of who's who. Welcome to the show, Brad Slater. Thank you so much.

We've been wanting to run this for a while. I know. This is a long time coming. It is such an honor to be here. I've been so excited about it from the moment that we met just about a year and a half ago. Yeah, we met a year and a half ago. Actually, Dana White introduced us at Gecko in miami he did he did it was uh i'll tell you it was just before that i think it was uh march of that year not last year the year before i was with dana in las vegas we

were uh watching the las vegas aces play i represent kelsey plum and it's a good friend she's a good friend of his as well and i I saw Dana and I was like, what are you doing? You look unbelievable. And he was just feeling so great. And he said, I'm going to introduce you to Gary Brekka and it's going to change your life. And I said, well, tell me more, please, right now. And that was like during the game. And then a couple months later, we were in Miami and UFC had a big card there. And he said, we're going to dinner at Gecko and you're going to meet Gary Brekka. And I will never forget walking in the restaurant, meeting you. I was so excited because I'd done some homework. You were pretty pumped.

I was pumped. And you looked me in the eyes. It's so nice. And then you said, we're going to we're going to make you superhuman. And or said something like, remember to get you on the protocol but i took it like in my own crazy mind like oh my god he thinks i'm sick he thinks there's something wrong with me no i really do have to i said you're gonna be my next superhuman project that's what i yes yeah and uh and so after that weekend i raced home i was was introduced to Stephanie Martinez, Devin. I got my blood tested. I got the genetic test.

A couple weeks after that, I was hitting the ground running. But I can tell you during that time in Miami, I remember being with Dana and being out on a boat with Max Crosby, who I know has been on the podcast. And these guys are walking around with their shirts off. And I'm like, mm-mm, not me. Shirt stays on. Not around these guys. But I I'm gonna get there and and I went to work and uh and you know it's it's it's been unbelievable so you actually really did go to work and before I even get into your background I mean because I mean you are an iconic force in in Hollywood and in the in the talent management and agency business and I want to I want to talk about how you climb that ladder

because it was a very non-traditional route you know I've done my homework on you too I mean you you were um you know selling European movies or movies to you know overseas American films overseas and and didn't didn't actually go through the traditional ladder right I mean you didn't um because you know in the back of my mind you, sometimes when I look at other industries, I'm always fascinated by how does somebody get into that? Right. Yeah. And to me, Hollywood, entertainment, sports management, talent management, being a talent agent, that to me represents one of the most competitive industries in the world, simply because you got a lot of egos. You got a lot of people with connections, crazy connections.

You've got a lot of people with money and you have a lot of people like all of your clients have choice. Right. Dwayne The Rock Johnson, you know, Eva Longoria. You know, these are some of the most iconic names, figures in the world of sports, entertainment, you know, just the level of celebrity status. So you've got to be relevant to them and you got to provide value. For sure. Right. Because if you don't, somebody else sure as hell will. Absolutely. So I want to circle back around to our health journey together because it's a health podcast. But I also want to talk about your journey climbing the ladder because to me that is fascinating.

And I think it's so applicable to any other industry, whether you're an entrepreneur starting a tech company, whether you've got a passion and a purpose and you got into the talent agency world and became like literally the, if not one of the top talent agents in the world. Well, I appreciate that. Um, it is an untraditional, uh, journey for me for sure. And I think everything in my life has been untraditional. I'm, I'm actually super proud of that. Um, listen, I was born and raised in Los Angeles. Um, and I know that Hollywood is kind of all around, but I really, I had no ties to the business at all. I didn't have, you know, my parents weren't involved in the business at all. I didn't have any family. That's the thing that fascinated me, right?

You didn't have a path to follow. Yeah, no, I really didn't. And no aunts and uncles or even friends whose parents were in the business. It just really wasn't around for me. But I always loved movies and television. I was an athlete first. And like every young guy, I mean, I thought I was going to play professional sports. That was really my dream. I was a baseball player and took it pretty far, you know, in high school and had some opportunities to play in college. Nothing big time. But had I

wanted to go on and play, I could have done that and decided to go to University of Arizona. I was number two in the country when I got there and I was never going to play at University of Arizona and decided I was just going to go have a great college education or have a lot of fun, too. Yeah. University of Arizona is a place to have a college experience. And in my second week on campus, there was an opportunity to see a movie for free. And you remember being in college, anything for free, you're jumping on. Oh, yeah. And it was the movie Last of the Mohicans that was directed by Michael Mann and starred Daniel Day-Lewis.

And I went to the movie. I was so blown away by it. I took three steps out of the theater. I grabbed my friend, Garrett Feldman, by the arm. I said, hey, listen, I don't know how I'm going to do it, but I'm going to be in the movie business. That was my freshman year. And so I really dedicated everything I had to learning everything i could about it worked really hard to get some internships in the summertime when i was home and this was late 90s

you know this was yeah 1990 i graduated 1996 but we're talking 94 95 you're dating yourself this pre-i'm good hey listen i just turned 50 years old i'm good with it yeah your first contract was with the hammer and a chisel but you you're not kidding. I mean, listen, there was no internet. Okay. There was no email. I didn't have a cell phone. Nobody was texting people. Right.

And so if you're going to go out and try to get a job, you got to be really creative about it. And so I would spend my days, you know, driving, delivering assistants who work for people, cookies and cakes and things like that, just so I can get my resume on their boss's desk and getting people's fax machine numbers in their home and writing them faxes so that you know that was the last thing they would check at night the way we check our cell phones now back then they would go check their fax machine they get a letter from some kid trying to get an internship and wow that led me to some great things um you know I'll spare you the rest of the details but I'll tell you this I never thought I was going to be an agent I use use the word never probably 50 times, which is the greatest lesson. Everybody always says never say never. And I really went through the whole process. It's true. My first job out of college, I was selling American movies overseas and I learned about making deals with people and learning how to communicate. Cause a lot of times I was making deals with people who are speaking different

languages from all over the world. And I loved it and I loved deal making and I knew I was making deals with people who were speaking different languages from all over the world. Yeah. And I loved it. And I loved deal making. And I knew I was pretty good at it. But I also knew I wanted to be in the core of the entertainment business. I wanted to be at a management company or an agency because that's really kind of the nucleus of everything. And found my way in. And I had a short run as a manager first for three years, which is a little bit more personal relationship with the clients. So somebody else is an agent you're managing? Exactly.

Exactly. You're kind of the quarterback or the CEO for the talent and making sure that all the parts of their business are running smoothly. Everything from the agent to the publicist to the lawyers to the business managers who handle the finance. The agent side of the business is you're really the dealmaker and you're the one who goes out and is responsible for getting the jobs that the talent ends up procuring. And you're in charge of sculpting a career. And for me, it was a really, really exciting thing. It gave me the opportunity to do all the things that I think I do really, really well. And for me, it's been building, taking people who have a big platform Dwayne Johnson's a great example started off as a wrestler, was known for that

but picked it up and became a movie star and built that platform so big that it turns into a tequila, you know magnate and the most followed man probably in America on social media yeah, absolutely to Cristiano Ronaldo and to total followers, and early on

he wasn't a big fan of getting on social media. It's true. He's talked about that. He's talked about that a lot. He didn't really think that that, you know, maybe was for him at that time. But boy, he turned that around. And what he does on social media is incredible. You know, it's funny.

My father has a saying. He says, life is what happens to you when you're on your way to doing something else, which sounds very fitting for, you know, your career path. But I was doing some digging and I found a really interesting story on you. And you talked about how in one of your initial interviews, you said, I'm going to be the most untraditional agent ever. And I think it spooked the other side. You talked about this. And so I was a little ballsy right for for you to kind of be in an interview with it and this was back when wme was like a very traditional agency exactly for like i love that you found that by the way um but i so it was the original willie morris agency

before the merger with endeavor so before our manual and exactly so this was William Morris and I must it was around 2003 and I had been a manager so I was never trained really as an agent by the book and the old William Morris was the New York Yankees of agencies right it was traditional and everybody who was running the place at the time was traditional and that was not me I didn't first of all I didn't think that I could compete at the level of some people if I was just going to go apples for apples and be traditional. I wanted to do something different. And I also learned from a legend in the business named Michael Ovitz.

He was talking about personal handheld devices when I was, you know, starting out in 1998 saying soon the world is going to feel this big because you're going to be watching television, buying things, talking to your friends, answering emails all on one thing in the palm of your hand. And a lot of people were like, I don't really know about that. I just want to put people in movies and TV. And I was like, no, that's how you can create global stars. And so I think that that led me on this path where I wanted to be a little bit of a trailblazer, I guess, and be like, it's OK for a movie star to be in a television commercial instead of just doing it for some obscure bank in Tokyo. It's OK for a movie star to do a television show, to be in a TV show or a reality show or produce or own their own business, be an entrepreneur. And that's led to a lot of great things. And I think

that's a big part of what I do. Like I said, I take people who are known for one platform and then expand that thing and try to turn it into an enterprise. Yeah. And I think you talked about how, you know, initially there was this scarcity mindset. Like if, if you became too available to your audience, people actually wouldn't want to go see you in the movie theater because you wanted to drive people to the movie theater if you were representing an actor, because that was the way that you got access to that talent. But your mindset was a lot different. And, you know, you embrace the technology. You even encouraged your, you know, the talent that you were working with to expand their horizons. Just like you said, maybe we should do a,

I've heard you talk about, you know, global credit card commercial that's going to be translated into all of these languages. Why not? And increasing the exposure. Exactly. And I think people understand and embrace that now. Obviously, social media is a vehicle. It's my vehicle. It's a vehicle for all of us to gain exposure and sort of circumvent the system, go directly to our audience. Yeah, there was a saying, I think it was Sidney Poitier who said it,'m pretty sure if they can see you the audience can see you monday through thursday they'll never pay to see you friday and saturday right right such an archaic mentality now well i mean in that era i get it you know that's the that's how it was and then that has kind of shifted i think now it's like if they go back and blockbuster thought

sure and if they don't see you now monday through thursday if they don't really know you and they're not invested in you and you're not totally authentic to them then they probably won't come to see you friday saturday either or anywhere else yeah you know so it's definitely shifted and that's the one of the great things about our business it's always evolving and we got to try to stay up and stay contemporary in it and keep your finger on the pulse of culture and so and now you've got your finger on the pulse of the the biggest names in the world the kardashians um you know eva longoria like we just mentioned talk to me a little bit about um how you're expanding your career as an i think most people watching this that don't understand how hollywood works and don't understand how talent management agencies really work um it

seems like a very you know it's a very nebulous concept to a lot of people. How do you branch from entertainment into also sports and not only just branch into sports, but at such a high level, what is the value proposition like you're bringing to the table? I think that the worlds have merged so much between entertainment and sports. And to be clear, I don't, when I deal with athletes, I don't do any of their on court, on field, in the octagon deals. That's for them, right? That's what they do over there. I started to look at them and say, you know what? There's a, there's a large handful or a certain percentage of athletes in across many different sports that have the opportunity to cross over and come out of their sport and be successful in the movie business or the television

business or the brand business and endorsement business, the venture capital world. And that's kind of what you're referring to. Listen, I met Ronda Rousey when she was virtually living out of her car here in Venice Beach before there were women in the UFC. And that's how my relationship with Dana started because when he decided to partner really with her and launch that women's division in the UFC, that was, she just literally armbarred her way through the UFC. I remember I was around for every step of that, but really believed that she was so unique that there was going to, that there was a hole in the marketplace for somebody like her. And then that translated into some really good movies for her television. She's New York times, bestselling author. She's now a screenwriter. She's just adapted her, her book. Um, my fight,

your fight, she adapted into a movie and she, she just wrote the script for it and, you know, and sold it recently to Netflix. And then she had the career in the WWE. And so all of those things are incredible. And there's athletes out there that have the opportunity and the talent to cross over if they choose to do a lot of different things outside of what they do in their day job, which is be great athletes.

I gotta imagine that an athlete, somebody like Ronda Rousey has a sphere of influence around them. And I've found, I won't name any names, but I've worked with a lot of entertainers, celebrities, um, um, sports figures. And initially, at least with my engagement with them, they're very forward thinking. They're like, Gary, I really want to work with you. Um, you know, um, I usually connect with them directly and then within a few weeks i run into that sphere that's not as welcoming as as they are and and it's not really excited about

inviting you in um to that that inner circle especially as something as personal as blood work genetic testing supplementation like you know um you know finding out what's really making that person tick and i gotta imagine that you coming in from the talent agency side and you know running into an athlete that you feel could make this crossover there's got to be a political quagmire there to kind that you got to navigate to get to that i mean i 100 know what you're talking about. And sure, that makes sense. But you know what? If you can't get through that and you can't find a partnership

and fit into the team and assimilate with the people that either have been there for a long time around them and have them accept you and you accept them, it either works or it's not gonna work. And if it's not gonna work, then no business is gonna get done. Yeah, I have this term that tide raises all boats.

I mean, I think just learning how to negotiate that and and say listen i'm i'm here to create a win-win i'm not here to take your talent away from you i'm here to to enhance what your talent is already right we're just trying to build life yeah so that's that that's incredible but so let's let's let's jump back to our journey together because I really have enjoyed this journey. You're the best. I've enjoyed it so much. Just getting to know you. You're an amazing human.

We were talking before the podcast today how you're a great grandfather in the cold plunging world. I'll take that. That's, man. Thank you. Cause I was doing, I was doing some, you know, background for the podcast and I was like, dude, guys on a, on a show in 2022, like talking about how he's cold plunging in his pool. Um, and you know, before cold plunging was cool. Um, and that's one of the components of what we do. But, um, I think there's so many people listening to this podcast that are where you were, and they may not know. They have a destination they want to get to. They want to lose weight.

They actually want to feel better. They want to look better. They want to sleep better. In your case, do you mind if we just open up the conference a little bit? That's why we're here. Let it rip. Yeah. I mean, we can always cut it out, you know, but, but when we met, um, you had a very, uh,

typical setup for somebody burning the candle at both ends, you know, in a high stress career, raising a family, being a father, um, being a husband, um, being, being, you know, the breadwinner and career oriented, and also having big aspirations for your career, not sort of having settled down and it's okay. It's just nine to five. I mean, you're balls out. Um, but your physiology wasn't keeping up. You know, um, that was your limiting factor. That was the ball and chain was your own physiology. And I remember when we went through the, uh, blood work at the first time and for the record, I'm not a physician. We had,

we had a team of medical doctors that were involved in your case too um when we went through the blood work and the genetic testing for the first time um your adrenals were fried right cortisol was through the roof um you're running on adrenaline um pre-diabetic um i think you were 50 pounds heavier than you are today yeah and you know very And, you know, very typical setup, elevated cholesterol, elevated triglycerides, insulin resistant, you know, all of these things. And I personally get really excited when I see that stage set because I feel like I can see your future. I know exactly where you're going to be in 10 or 12 weeks. And I know that if we can set this hook, right, this is going to be the trajectory for the, for the rest of your life.

So talk a little bit about that, that journey and you know, what it, what it's meant for you. Yeah. I mean, it's been, it's been incredible. Listen, I was, I think I was just about to turn 49 and probably just chalking everything up to like like i guess this is what happens when you're you know approaching 50 everybody does a little bit um but also it didn't it just didn't feel right like i didn't feel horrible there wasn't like one thing where i'm like something's wrong yeah yeah i'm not going to the er totally but i just knew i wasn't myself um well physically i mean i was 50 pounds heavier. So let's start there. I was like 250. I still have that vision of you the night that we met

and you look completely different. I have a picture of it, which I sent to you guys and feel free to- We'll throw it up on here. Yeah, I was 255 pounds, which is just like, I couldn't even believe that I got there. But listen, COVID happened. We're all in our homes.

I was working out a lot. I was like getting on my bike. I was riding like 125 miles a week in the beginning. I was feeling good. I was in good shape. You know, I was a proponent, like, you know, the vaccines. I'm like, yeah, I'm going to go get the shot. Got the first one.

Fine. Whatever. Second one. Yeah. You know, and I have the card. And I know when I got it, I can go back and look at photos and like the progression like things just weren't right like it didn't matter all of a sudden my injuries started popping back my body pain a lot more inflammation i was gaining weight gaining weight gaining weight and it didn't matter what i cut out of my diet you could cut carbs you

know for three weeks couldn't lose a pound yeah work for three weeks, couldn't lose a pound. Yeah. Work out like an animal, couldn't drop a pound. And it just felt like someone pulled the plug, like the switch was off. And just, you know, something, it didn't feel right. I didn't feel myself. And we talked about this earlier. I am big energy all the time. I, I'm like, I always feel good. I'm always going to, you asked me how I'm doing.

I'm great. And I, you know, and I believe that like, but, um, and then we meet and I start learning from you and you just have this gift of how you speak English. It makes sense. You talk about getting to the root cause of the problem instead of treating people, you know, for their ailments, you're treating people for their deficiencies. And so you look at my blood tests and there are things that were just like jumping off the page right and my vitamin d is through the floor yes okay well i guess someone could have told me about that

i've been pretty good i've i go to i've had doctors it was on a lot of your previous blood tests yeah you know it was vitamin b super low but then i start learning what and you and your team explained to me like what it means what it what effect it can have on you if your vitamin D is as low as mine is and how vitamin D controls your gut. Well, your gut's connected to your brain and now your cortisol levels and all these things. Well, I'm like, oh, so that's why my cortisol is at 26. That's why I'm like- 26, by the way, guys, if you don't know the cortisol range.

Yeah. It shouldn't be outside of about 19, but yeah. And so that explains why, you know, things things are i'm more stressed out than usual and you know a little bit more you know anxiety and things like that and it's all tying together um and then you know i start getting on the supplements and working out simply by the way simple weight program you know 35 40 minutes weights in my backyard, which I made a conscious decision. I'm like, I'm not doing this with the trainer. All the discipline is going to be on me because I wanted it to feel doable.

Yeah. Backyard, lifting weights, walking 35 minutes a day. I have more pictures of this man with his shirt off on my phone. Listen, I did the work. I had to show it to somebody. You were so fired up, man. I was into it. And, you know, trying to walk simple,

you know, six days a week, get it out there as many as I could. And I remember where I was standing. Literally, I can go to the spot in my backyard one day when I go, oh my God, I feel totally different. I actually feel different right now. I'm getting goosebumps, man. I love hearing that. Yeah, I remember. And it's like space opened up

in my head. And it's been like that now for 14 months, you know, and just continue to work, continue to work and stay on it. And I have to say it's so doable. You know, it really, really is. Listen, there's no magic pill. You have to. Can't supplement your way around a bad diet. I totally agree. You cannot. And, you know, I did.

Listen, I remember I started two weeks in and then I went to Italy on vacation. And it is not easy to go to Italy, not have pasta, not have pizza and do all the things. But I'm like, you know what? If I'm going to do this, I'm going to do this. And so I had a lot of a lot of prosciutto and a lot of steak while I was in Italy and no red wine on that trip. And like, you know what? If I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do this. And so I had a lot of prosciutto and a lot of steak while I was in New York and no red wine on that trip. And then you know what? You can do that.

You can have a pretty good, you can eat just fine. And my whole lifestyle really changed because of it. And I feel better than I ever have. And it's all due to, listen, I'd never taken vitamins in my life. I'd never taken a mult my life i was i'd never taken a multivitamin or anything and then we can talk about you know the genetic you know yeah we did the genetic test you are the motherfucker gene i do i'm a real motherfucker i do too so i can

affectionately a lot of people do yeah um what is it 44 44 of the population has it and i remember you know in some of our initial conversations when we were talking about the myriad of things that appeared to be wrong, right? And I think a lot of people think about these things as spokes on a wheel, right? They're like, I have this mental issue. I have this sleep issue. I have this weight issue. I have this energy issue. I have a focus concentration issue.

You know, I have all of these different issues. And what I was able to convince you was that you didn't have 10 problems right you had one problem causing 10 symptoms and you were you were so engaged in that concept and you were like man that makes so much sense it gives me so much hope and you bought all in i said give me 10 weeks and the 10 at the end of weeks, if you want to go back to what you're doing, go back to what you're doing. Because I know that you're not. And we started. And, you know, every week I was getting the updates from you.

I remember the update around the time you're talking about in your backyard where, like, you had this epiphany. And then you were kind of all in. You were like, you know, that person that found religion. Like, you were just dedicated and all in. Want to get an extra hour of quality good sleep every single night? Let me tell you how I do it. My wife and I sleep on 8Sleeps Pod 4 Ultra. This is a technology that fits over your mattress to cool or warm each side of the bed,

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Shout out to Dr. Sarda. Yeah, sure. She's amazing. She's a board certified OBGYN. She's delivered, I think, 9,000 babies. And she's one of those people just constantly educating herself, going to continuing education courses. She's got two master's degrees, but I can't say enough about that woman. But I said, I'm going to fly Dr. Sarda out here and we're going to do these stem cell and exosome injections into the joint.

She brought her ultrasound out. We started, you know, we ultrasounded the shoulder. She puts you through some orthopedic tests. But the funniest thing was, um, we were in your, um, library at your house, your, your office. We do the, we do the injections, um, you know, in the shoulder. And then she's like, okay, raise your arm. And I remember you could only get your arm to about here. And then you raised it straight straight up then you popped up out of the chair and you started bouncing around the room you started tucking your hand behind your back and she's like no no no don't don't overdo it stop yeah yeah it was listen major epiphany for you it i mean and my wife and everybody knows that i'm i can exaggerate, but let me tell you how bad my shoulder was.

Years of injuries, starting with baseball. You couldn't sleep. No. For 12 years straight, okay, I would wake up three times a night. Shoulder would be locked. My entire arm would be asleep. Had to wake up, shake it out, try to fall back asleep at least three times a night wow reaching for the shower head it felt some you know on some days like it could slip out at any time i was living through chronic pain every single day and continuing to like do

jujitsu and you know muay thai and do those things and try to find ways to train through your purple belt right what's that you're a purple purple, yeah. Yeah, and so it was so brutal, and I'd seen the best of the best shoulder guys, all who told me you have to have shoulder replacement. And I was like, there's no way. I'm just not doing it. I'm not gonna have shoulder replacement surgery. I'm not gonna take myself out of whatever.

I'm probably be terrible with the rehab because I just know that I would, and I'm not doing it and then along you know comes you educating me about exosomes and you guys come do that the house series of shots you know around the joint or into the joint this is crazy no one will probably believe it but the first night the first night i think i slept through the night yes i remember the text this is almost a year ago the whole team yeah i just to put on like a suit jacket for me would take like 30 seconds extra just to like get my arm like in the hole normally and um and my listen

it didn't heal the injury i still have the injury it's there but i have no pain during the day i can move freely. I can grab my wallet now on the right side. You know, when I put my hammy on back and lift my arm, I sleep so much better. I'm lifting more weight than, you know, like I probably like I did in high school with no pain. So the quality of life because of it is so much. And by the way, chronic pain for anybody who's gone through like that takes its toll oh it'll it'll wear down the strongest uh you know human beings on the planet i've seen it i've seen it you know it's it's like it's like that relentless sandpaper it's like what

do they say like the water over the rock you know eventually the water wins right i mean the rock is just stable but it will erode that rock it will just erode you know your willpower just this is during the will for me people i don't even think about my shoulder during the day anymore and there are times i could just be sitting at my desk and be like man this is like when the weather we get cold because obviously you know our brightness and whatever it would just it it's an amazing science you You know, to quote you, it's just science. Yeah, it's just science. You know, and I know it's getting more and more, you know, data and getting more and more popular.

But boy, what it's done for my situation has been a real, real game changer for me. And you know what's interesting about these stem cells, exosomes, is they're really just harnessing the body's ability to heal itself. You know, I talk a lot about believing more in what God gave us than what man makes us. Meaning if we can enhance what God gave us, if we can strengthen our immune system and let the immune system do the fight, if we can actually return our physiology back to where it's supposed to be

and allow our physiology to walk our way out of this, if we can, you know, examine the body and find the deficiency and make up the deficiency this is when magic happens in human beings right absolutely i mean what i learned from you sorry yeah no no it happened in your case yeah in all i mean the show even listen we didn't i had high blood pressure yep that was on cholesterol you know my cholesterol was high you know listen i would poor stephanie martinez i'd be taking pictures by the way of my she's another i like love taking my blood pressure i do it every single morning and i'm like always

screenshotting and sending it to me you know like and um but that i think is a direct result of you know the vitamin d being back up obviously the weight coming off yeah too but i'm not on blood pressure no medication anymore this is so awesome man you know i'm not on and i take i literally and i monitor it daily i'm not talking like three times every single day just kind of for sport but also just to like you know to to see it's great you know incentive to keep yeah on this and i remember i mean and for the record i don't take people off blood pressure medication the clinical team does but I remember when there's always this point where people start getting on the supplements

for deficiency, very often they have high levels of homocysteine, which you actually did have. And when they have high levels of homocysteine, there's a correlation to these vascular spasms, the clamping down of the arteries. I think a lot of people don't realize that about 70% of our circulation

is not actually done by the heart. It's done by an activity called vasomotor and like a snake swallowing a mouse. And when this vasomotor activity is compromised, when you make the pipes smaller in a fixed system, pressure goes up. So as we relax those, and again, if you don't mind,

I'll just talk about some of the supplements you were on. I mean, they're everyday supplements. Resveratrol. Buy them on most of them off Amazon. Yeah. Not that, but yeah. Yeah. Resveratrol, trimethylglycine, which is an amino acid that the clinical team put you on.

I remember watching your cortisol levels start falling, your triglyceride, the measure of your blood fat, start to fall. I remember watching your homocysteine plummet from the high double digits into the low single digits. And week over week, as we got to the 12-week mark, which is I think where we did the first set of blood work, when it came back in and I talked to Dr. Sartre, like we couldn't wait to get on the phone with you because I was like, I know based on this paper, how good you're feeling.

And of course, you know, it, it, it was, I had the, I had the shirtless pictures to prove it. They were coming in and I had the, I had the, the, the blood pressure update, which I mean, that to me is, is chicken soup for the soul because I think so many people watching this podcast are on the pharmaceutical hamster wheel. And they don't know how to get off because they are seeing highly qualified, well credentialed physicians that are saying, this is the rest of your life, right? This is permanent. You have this genetically inherited condition, you have this familial disease disease and once you accept that then you accept that you need to be on a lifetime of medication which which you didn't no yeah and i think it's

just so to me what's so cool is that you know most of the stuff like you said is either vitamins and supplements that i'm getting from you guys yeah because they're great or i'm buying on amazon yeah no chemicals no synthetics no pharmaceuticals and and you know we are in this world hey yo you feel it take this you feel like and i'm talking about friends not even just like doctors oh you should take this i take well what's good for you might not be good for me right you know the folic acid thing is very real yeah you. Listen, I get so hammered by that. There's so many doctors on social media that are like, he's fear-mongering folic acid. Folic acid is not bad for anybody. Folic acid is a man-made chemical that doesn't exist in nature.

It does not exist anywhere on the surface of the earth. And it is simple to get out of your diet. And if you have the MTHFR gene mutation, which you do, and 44% of the people watching this podcast have, just try it. Don't even take my word for it, right? This is not a difficult experiment. Get the fortified or enriched foods out of your life for one week.

This isn't even like a hardcore dogmatic diet. You know, it's not vegan, vegetarian, paleo, keto, you know, pescatarian. This is just get the fortified or enriched foods out of your diet for a week i have moms and dads literally all over the world like i'll walk through an airport now or i'll get on a commercial flight or i'll go to a restaurant and somebody was always coming up to me going oh my god carrie i you know i didn't do your test i haven't done your blood work i've never done anything with your clinical team, but I watched this podcast, stripped folic acid out of my kid's diet

and out of my diet. My kids are not a full contact sport to get them in the car to go to school in the morning. And I remember you talking about the mental clarity and everything. And I want to sort of shift that direction now. What has this shift in your health done for your career, your mental health? this shift in your health done for your career,

your mental health. And I know that mental health is on the forefront of so many people's minds right now. I think very often they feel trapped. They don't realize that what they're putting in their bodies can actually cause the conditions that they're facing upstairs. It's always interesting to me how a lot of modern medicine will look at this being completely separate from this. You know, it's almost like this is over here, not connected to

the rest of this. And you said it very eloquently in the beginning of the podcast, you know, once we start fixing the gut, all of a sudden, mood and emotion and, you know, mental clarity, focus, concentration, which you were really struggling with from the beginning yeah so the light comes back on listen i don't think you have to like have a mental illness to focus on your mental health i hate the term mental illness you know right and i think we all there's so much coming at us everybody every second whether it's your tv or your phones your thing or your life or your whatever your job um and so for me i mean like i said there was it's like the space really really opened up in my head where everything became a lot

more clear but you guys say it all the time and and you know sage says it all the time both you like whatever normal supposed to feel like, that's what I feel. Like, you're never going to hear me be like, oh, my God. I'm like, it's like euphoric and I'm running around and I can go feel like it's not that. I feel normal. Yeah. And then I can go function the way I want to. And there are definitely things that used to get me worked up, like really worked up.

Yeah. And I have definitely, you know, listen, all of our lives are you know peaks and valleys and and and and i trust me i've had plenty of valleys um but i deal with things much differently yeah now and i can and i can feel it yeah i can i literally sometimes i don't say i welcome it but sometimes i do because i'm like you know what i'm being tested right now yeah but i've been doing all the things to take care of myself i'm i'm ready for this test yeah i'm good to go okay let's go yeah you know and so meaning like when those stressors come into your life and you're like okay this situation is not working out the way that i wanted to but i actually have

the mental fortitude to get through this and i I'm going to problem solve rather than lose my cool. Yeah, I feel a lot more confident in those type of situations, knowing that I've been working really hard to take care of myself. And I think it's important. Yeah. Well, now, I mean, it's clearly a priority of yours. I mean, down 50 pounds. I mean, again, we were talking before the camera started rolling about you know you're in the gym and you pick up that 45 pound weight and you go

to throw it on the bench press and you're like whoa wait a second yeah i was carrying that around i was literally carrying this around i was sleeping with this on my chest yeah you know i was going to the office with this i was coming home i was trying to chase the kids around with this thing on my backpack no wonder i was always exhausted and fatigued and edgy. And I think people may not have a vision of how close normal is to them. You may be a few minerals, vitamins, amino acids, simple nutrients away from truly feeling normal. I say it all the time, and you really eloquently shaped it, that people will say,

oh my God, Gary, I feel amazing. And I'm like, God, you don't really feel amazing. You feel normal. You just accepted such an erosion of your baseline sense of normalcy that you think this is what normal feels like. But normal's amazing, man. God wants us to thrive.

We're supposed to have it all, right? The girl, the car, the fortune, the career, the happiness, the sleep, the libido, the energy. We're supposed to have it all, right? The girl, the car, the fortune, the career, the happiness, the sleep, the libido, the energy. We're supposed to have it all. That's what human beings were put on this earth to do was to thrive. And I think when people's physiology begins to be eroded, what happens is your physiology drags you into the place where it most comfortably exists. And it's not where you most comfortably exist, where your physiology is. And I think restoring that is, I mean, that's a mission that I'm on. It's a message that I'm committed to. And you truly exemplify that.

Appreciate it. So, you know, I want to get back to your career because I think it is so applicable to, you know, so many different industries. You take this nonttraditional career path. But now that you're senior talent agent at one of the biggest talent agencies in the world, and you are managing some of the most iconic talent on the planet, I've got to think that staying there

is just as hard as getting there, right? Like, how do you continue to provide value to people of that caliber? I mean, how do you stay relevant with a Kim Kardashian? How do you stay relevant with a Dwayne Johnson? Because from my myopic view, if I'm in their position, listen, if you're not providing value, go find it somewhere else. You've had a long, sustained career. And I'd love to get into the mindset, the mentality, the practices that are keeping you where you are.

Yeah, I think, you know, first of all, it's good to have young kids. I have twins that are 13 years old. I've never heard someone say that's the secret to success. If you want to know what's cool, it's more about staying relevant and understanding what's going on in culture, right? And seeing where trends go and what people not just in California and New York are doing,

but people in the middle of our country too, like what movies they're going to and what TV shows they're into and what products they are excited about um it's really paying attention to those things and and trying to embrace the change we've been through so much of it right you know i mean if i were to tell you i don't even know what was it 15 years ago that that uh that subscription thing for the dvds you know called netflix where you could get three sent to your house as soon as you're done watching you could send them back

you get three more if at that time i was like and by the way in about 10 to 15 years from then they're gonna have a whole channel that's all you're gonna watch movies and television on you would be like what are you even talking about you know um? And streaming, you know, it's changed a lot of things. Yeah. But it's okay. Like, you know, like. But I feel like you've got to be on the forefront of that so that you've got to be at the level of talent that you're managing. You've got to be bringing things to them before they bring it to you so you don't feel like you're being reactionary.

You're being proactive. Like, Dwayne we gotta we gotta get on this wave listen i think that you know when you're fortunate enough to be in any client that you represent live it's because there's a matter of trust there right that you're gonna have the best interest in heart and that their businesses are as important to you uh as they are to them if not more yeah and so that's our job we have to be out in front of those things. And we have to be curious, continue to be curious, and do things that are untraditional and do things a little bit differently

and not be scared of that. And be okay taking calculated risks. Yeah. It's funny you say curious. I think intellectual curiosity is one of the greatest emotions we can possess because it makes you a passionate person because you like i'm i have a childlike fascination with science and human

physiology and the human body and and i feel so blessed to be in the industry that i'm in because i i want to read it and study it and learn about it for sport. You know, like when I'm on vacation, that's what I'm doing. Like that is my downtime. Like I've sort of meshed the, you know, the career path and the intellectual curiosity with my deep fascination. And I feel really, really blessed that they all come together. And I sort of blurred the lines between, you know, work and play. And I've got to imagine for you a little bit of that this is the same thing i mean you're an amazing people person i mean it's coming out on the podcast for sure you can just see your your 50 pounds lighter and

yeah i mean you're a great you're a great people person so you've got to enjoy that interaction and truly i've gotten to know a lot of your clients as people behind the scenes and they're they're great human beings um kim kardashian is a great she's a great person i mean i think duane is an unbelievable person and what you see on the screen is quite honestly what you kind of see behind the screen he's one of those people um that's also like has a childlike fascination with the human body and performance and health and wellness and like like like i think if you were to ask him he'd say my best days are ahead of me right you're like how are you going to beat what i just saw right like the most iconic you know actor in hollywood you know wwe star you know social media guru he's like

he resting right he's not putting it in neutral he's works hard pressing on the gas yeah he works really hard yeah so that must be inspiring to you too it is i mean you know you're fortunate enough to to work with really really great talent i talent. I took an acting class in college. An acting class? One. Trust me. It was so hard. I was so awful.

I was so awful that I immediately gained such a respect for talent and acting. But what really talented people possess. And and so I'm driven by their success. I want it so badly. Yeah. For them that it's personal to me. Yeah. You know, I their wins are your wins. I just want to. Yeah, I just want the best. I think that's our job is, you know, as representatives. But I really do wear it on my sleeve. I do. I love the best. I think that's our job is, you know, as representatives. But I really do wear it on my sleeve. I mean, I do. I love the job. I always say to people, there's where I park my car at the WME, I have to get up like six steps to the elevators. And a lot of mornings, I'll like

run up the steps. And I'm not like, yes, yeah, I'm not late. I'm just like, I think I'm excited. And the day that stops, then I know I'm probably gonna. Because you're like, yes. Yeah, I'm not late. I'm just like, I think I'm excited to be there. And the day that stops, then I know I'm probably going to have to, you know, go to high school baseball or something. You know, but listen, you have, and this goes for any job. I don't care if you're a doctor. You have patients' lives in your hands. You know, firemen, police, like my job is not that, you know, is not that important. Yeah. But I am responsible for people's livelihood,

for their careers. So I take that seriously. Yeah, the passion. And so it's my job to stay up on things and try to get the best opportunities that I can bring them all the time. We do our best at that. And you obviously don't win every single time out,

like anything in life. What do you think makes the difference between a good actor and a great actor or a good entertainer and a great entertainer? I mean, you've been around a lot of greatness, right? I mean, I think I talk about this all the time with athletes, with celebrities, with scientists, with career entrepreneurs.

I think anybody could be great once, right? There used to be a show in Hollywood called like, Where Are They Now? Or the one hit wonders, you know, and you're like, oh, I remember that song. And then you're like, what did happen to that person? Oh, they're homeless behind a dumpster at Walmart. And what do you think keeps some of these people on the top of their game?

Like what makes great talent? I think they're extraordinarily, extraordinary hard workers. And I'm talking about like all the extra things. You know, I used to hear this, you know, stories about, you know, just like athletes. You know, Kobe Bryant, when they were all at the Olympics, you know, guys were going out partying and they came home from the clubs and he was getting, he was getting in gym when they were coming home. And I've seen the great, the great actors, the difference,

those are the ones who are still working with acting coaches. They're not just like getting the job. Still working with acting coaches. Yeah. Showing up. They don't just show up on the day that they're supposed to work. They are in there. They're working with their coaches. They're not just like getting the job. Still working with acting coaches. Yeah. Showing up. They don't just show up on the day that they're supposed to work. They are in there. They're working with their coaches. They're watching other actors. They're seeing other films. They are devouring other things to see and learn, you know, the difference. And you know

what? Like now there's so much to choose from as a consumer. You can turn on any, you know, you can go to the movies, you can turn on any platform, anything, you can catch something you wanna see pretty much anywhere. So back, you know, 10 years ago, good was good enough. I don't think that just being good gets you there anymore. Now you gotta be great to keep going and do all of those things. You know, you have to be great all the time.

And that's hard, but it's all the things that we're talking about. Trust me, they're not great if they're not taking care of themselves all the time, most likely, if they're not working on their health and their mental health and all those things. And you see what you're doing playing into the lives of a lot of athletes and entertainers

and all these people who were like, I need that. I can't tell you how many yesterday I'm at lunch with somebody. It's like, tell me more, you know, tell me more, tell me everything.

And I'm telling him, he was like, I need to meet him. I need to, I've been feeling, I've been feeling this and I haven't, you know, I'm not,

I need something. I gotta, I gotta get better. I gotta get healthier. Superhuman project right there. We'll talk about it after the podcast there you go but it happens all the time you know and that's you gotta work talk a little bit about your um how your day has changed like what are some of your favorite biohacking devices i love the fact that you're in the cold plunge um some of your favorite biohacking devices what's a typical day for brad slater look like now that

was not a typical day for you. I love that you're asking. We didn't prepare these questions before the podcast, just FYI. You know, it's funny. I think I just saw Dana say it recently. He might have said it. He loves getting up in the morning. He can't wait to get up. Dude, I'm the same way.

My wife, not so much. I am up at five now, happily. Wow. I'll go downstairs, let the dogs out. I am up at five now, happily. Wow. I'll go downstairs, let the dogs out, grab coffee first. I know you don't get the coffee first. I'll wait a little bit, but that's fine. I go coffee, water, supplements.

You're in the Baja Gold. You're in Perfect Aminos. You have a hydrogen water bottle. You're all in. Dude, I left my hydrogen water bottle on a plane. I'm gonna give you this one right here. I'm so grateful. That's what you get for coming on today. I left it recently, I was really, really sad.

It was, I might as well, I would have been happy if I left my luggage. You know, the sad thing is when they clean that plane, they throw it away because they looked at that and they were like, huh, I don't know what that is. I know, seriously, you could have lost my luggage and I would have been less upset than missing my water bottle. That's the truth.

That's awesome. But I'm pamp mat immediately for like 25 minutes. The PMF. Uh-huh. And then right into my infrared sauna that has a red light kind of tower in it. Yeah. So I'll turn on the red light first while the sauna is heating up. So I'll do 25 minutes with the red light.

And by the time that turns off, son is at 170 or something like that so i'm in there for like another 25 minutes 30 minutes to you know whatever sweat on raising body temperature uh-huh and then immediately out cold plunge day um and then so usually i keep it at 45 degrees yep um 45 and i'll do that for most days three minutes and then sometimes i'll just do six just because um and uh and that's and then so i'm already done it's like it's like 6 15 by then and then but then my kids aren't even up yet right and i'm on i call it my drug of choice all the time nothing makes you feel better for longer i feel great yeah i'm totally ready to go and i always say this i'm sure you feel the same like the cold plunge never gets easier so that's like a real metaphor for the day

like if you knock out the cold plunge what's going to be harder for you in your day than that zero the procrastination that goes into actually getting in it for me like i'll grab my phone i'll send 10 texts before yeah yeah yeah it's just like i don't and then you do and you're like yes i did it i feel so good let's go and then um and then i'll you know try to get you know i'll get a workout in um now i have a new like weight program i've been doing three mornings a week and so i go somewhere to do it but it's really close by my home um so it's an hour and then uh or i walk yeah i love that it's you know the importance of self-care some people say oh that's just being selfish you know i'm like well putting yourself first is

actually being so very selfless because, you know, I'm sure, and I don't want to put words in your mouth, you feel that you are a better father. You probably feel that you are better able to serve your clients. You're probably a better partner. I mean, you know, it touches every sphere of your life. Yeah. I think, and listen, by no means perfect, obviously. And, you know, all of us, you know, I think majorly flawed. I would hope that my kids say, you know, he's, he has been better since he's been doing this. But, uh, my wife, you know, who has to put up with me all the time with now she's, you know, Kara's such a, a saint and, uh, and she's just started with you as well, which is so great. She's on a journey now too. Exactly. We can't just have one superhuman in the house.

No, come on. But no, I think it does. I think there's ripple effects everywhere, right? It's like that thing. You drop a pebble in the ocean and, you know. It goes out everywhere. Yeah. What you've got to start adding to your morning routine is waking your spouse up with the ice cold fingers out of the cold plunge.

I don't even. Wonders for a marriage. I've been trying to get her in the cold, just to get in the cold plunge. it's i don't even wonders for a marriage i've been trying to get her in the cold just to get in the cold bun we'll we'll get there that's a goal of mine well i mean you know sage is sage is thin and she fought it for a long time and now it's like her favorite thing you know she had an l5s1 fusion uh right right when we first started dating years ago and um you know depending on how she sleeps or what kind of bed she sleeps in, it does, you know, flares up and causes her a lot of pain. So now she's addicted to the cold plunge because, you know, sometimes even 30 seconds or a minute before we go to bed.

And she's very thin framed and she gets down in there and soaks that part of her body and lets the temperature cool down and gets the blood flowing. And then she, you know, she sleeps so much. The effects that that, there's so many different things that the cold lunge can help with. It's unbelievable day to day. I mean, but the most fun for me is like, honestly, you find me a person. I don't care what kind of mood they're in before they go in, but after is still in a bad mood.

Yeah, this is so true. I always say that you could be in a bad mood going in. You're never in a bad mood getting out. You can't. You can't be. You cannot cannot you cannot get out and say i am so pissed angry about this right it's like isn't there i think you said it like you can't ever wake up you can't wake up laughing yeah you can't wake up laughing can't come out of a cold plunge pissed i like that dude i'm gonna adopt that now can't come out of a cold plunge piss. You heard it here first. It's yours.

It's fine. We have a shirt. We got shirts made. You know, what would you say to the folks that are watching this podcast that are in similar industries, right? I mean, we're all in the grind. You know, what was the tipping point for you? And, you know, what mental resilience did you have to have to get through that first 10 weeks because i want people to know how close they are to feeling amazing yeah

really feeling normal and if you go back to where you were right around the time that we met was there a like you said there was nothing going on that like i didn't want to go to the er right um you know it's like my arm was constantly numb and you know i couldn't move my fingers something was but i think so many of us have accepted this erosion of our baseline sense of normalcy and we're walking around and we're like okay well i'm supposed to have brain fog because i'm old older you know i'm in my 40s i'm in my 50s i'm not supposed to remember names and dates and times and places i'm not supposed to remember where my keys and wallet are. You know, I'm not supposed to sleep that well. I'm supposed to have a little spare tire around the middle.

I'm supposed to feel stressed out and a little bit edgy. It's just part of getting old. Like, what would you say to those people? And what, if anything, was the tipping point for you? Well, the Miami trip was definitely a tip. First of all, as we all know, there's no one more honest than Dana White. Oh, yeah. And if he thinks that you, you know, might not be healthy.

I find it so crazy when people are like, Gary paid him to say that. I'm like, first of all, thank you for thinking I'm wealthy enough. Right. To have the money to move David and White's needle. No, he was like. I ripped that $100 million out of my savings account and threw it at Dana. He joked. He wasn't joking.

He said to me, he's like, you have to do this. Like you're getting the bullfrog thing under your neck. And I was like, oh wow. You're like, I'm like, okay. No, no, no. How dare you? And no, you know, but I, it is right there. It is right within your reach.

However, I think you have to really like take a look at yourself literally like you can go look in the mirror and go i'm i'm going taking two feet in it's not a toe it's not one foot it's two feet but you're not killing yourself doing it it's just do it commit to this give me give me the 10 weeks yeah give me the 10 weeks the things that are wrong with you that you're not that the reasons you're not feeling well you're going to give them things that should alleviate that the all these things are reversible yeah for the most i mean you know they're they can be changed yeah you have to make a commitment you can do it you can look at 10 weeks on the calendar too i mean

but it's not even thanksgiving yet i mean this podcast is probably going to air right around thanksgiving ish two weeks um so is that thanksgiving no no it's before thanksgiving um which means that we're not even to thanksgiving yet before christmas you could be a different person like like that's a really achievable goal that's that's the other message that i really want to give people because a lot of times they look back at you know at people that have been on this journey with me and they go, man, I just don't have a year to commit. And I'm like, no, no, no. They only committed 10 weeks. They just didn't get off the band.

They got off the pharmaceutical hamster wheel and got on the supplement for deficiency wheel. And now it's their choice to not get off. Well, you know I've sent a lot of people your way just like a lot of some very influential people a lot of your people have you know and i hear it all the time every i think it's like a competition going on like who sent more business to to you everyone's like how did this many um haven't met one yet that has called me like yeah it didn't work for me you know because again you're it's it's right there in front of you. Here's your deficiencies.

Here's something that's going to help turn that around. If you do it and you do it, get outside. Move around. Movement is like, go move around. Watch what happens. It's not crazy, but you have to be in. You can't do it do not a seven out of 10, just be a 10 to 10. No, you're not your energy doing isn't a 10 out of 10. You're just committed 10 out of 10. Yeah. Commit. Yeah. Like anything. Yeah. I hear people talk about the necessity for discipline being more important than motivation.

You know, usually when people start this journey, they're not motivated, right? In fact, they're starting the journey because they don't have the motivation and also the knowledge listen someone said to me they said uh how is it possible that i know more about my car than my body wow the fluid levels in your vehicle and the fluid levels in your body heat so many so many viral snippets right like and so it's like okay go just get the blood test start there yeah like get it study you know you don't have to be obsessed i was crazy i'm you know reading everything i'm up every morning every single article reading every research paper that you post in the podcast yeah you don't have to do that. Just do the work. Yeah. No, I love it, man.

I love it. So I, first of all, this has been amazing. I want to have you back on the podcast. Because I want to keep checking in on this journey. I'm due for blood tests. I'll be hounding you and Stephanie and Devin. Oh, well, let's do it while we're here. I split it. We got a nurse here at the Airbnb, you know?

Let's go. By the way, we're at an Airbnb in, in, in LA, um, for my birthday, my birthday is tomorrow, September 21st, but, uh, so you're like my birthday podcast, um, but, um, you know, I, I, I love, you know, just checking in from time to time on the, on, on these journeys, but I, I sort of bring every podcast to, to a close by asking all my guests the same question. There's no right or wrong answer to this question and that is what does it mean to you to be an ultimate human um i think to me it's how much can you give of yourself to get the best from others um i love wow i i really love helping people. And I think that's, I get to do

that every day in my job. Um, I think that I've been lucky to be in a position that I can help people. Um, you know, whatever help needs, it could be the smallest thing to a big thing. Um, but I love that. And so how can I, you know, to be an ultimate human, it means a lot. I mean, it's not just health, it's what kind of person you are, you know, and, and I've all, and I try really, really hard. I've always wanted to, um, be successful, but I always wanted to be a good person too. And I wouldn't trade the other one without the other. I mean, I got to say that say that you are a living embodiment of that because I've never asked you,

but you have voluntarily referred to me some of the most influential clients I've ever worked with. And I appreciate that endorsement because the greatest possession that you have is your reputation and your relationships. And you've exposed a lot of those to me and put your reputation on the line for me. So I just want to publicly thank you for that. Well, I mean, it's easy, first of all, because, you know, one of the things I love that I've loved about getting to know you is that, first of all, you've never pushed anything on me. You've never sold anything to me ever. But, know, um, and, uh, I think that's really important. And I've also never heard you say a bad thing about anybody. Thank you. Yeah. I don't believe that. And I'm talking about other

people in your field. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't believe in the adage that I'm good because everybody else is bad. You know, a lot of my peers do, but, um, you know, I think, you know, it's funny, even some of the guys that, that attack me you know make make a uh career out of attacking me online i i look at them and i'm like you know what i actually don't think that guy's a bad guy um you know he's not a scumbag and a liar and fraud and a cheat um i think he's misguided in in the way that you know he's building his career because he's or she is uh you know saying they're great because this person's bad. But I also try to find things in those people that are like, hey, we're actually both trying to do the same thing out in the world.

We're going to make the world a better place, so I try not to attack them either. But, dude, you're a special person, man, and I appreciate you coming on and sharing your story and being vulnerable because this is going to be the tipping point for somebody that's watching this podcast right now and if it is um guys just commit you don't even have to do it with me you don't have to do a 10x health or the ultimate human just make that commitment to get some data on your body um some blood work some genetic testing start supplementing for deficiency not

just the sake of supplementing and see where it goes. Got to do it. Right? You owe it to yourself. You got to do that. Do that. Just do that one thing. Yeah. Go from there. Awesome, man.

Brad, thank you so much, brother. You're a legend. Thank you for coming on. You got to tuck under the microphone there. This is amazing. We will have Brad back on the podcast. We're going to check in on him in a couple of months. But as always, guys, that's just science.