The Ultimate Human with Gary Brecka - 139. Mike Rashid: Why This Fitness Icon Trains at 5 AM & Fasts All Day To Achieve Peak Performance

Starting point is 00:00:00 Being in shape is loving yourself. Today is the youngest you will ever be. So start getting crazy about your nutrition, your training, your meditation, your community, all of that. Do that now. There's such a physical connection to the mind. I think if you are weak physically, you have a tendency to be weak mentally.

Starting point is 00:00:19 I don't see a separation. When your mind is healthy, you're going to define what success is, and you're going to have what success is. You're going to have success. I think that we have a pandemic, not of mental illness in this country. I think we have a pandemic of a lack of mental fitness. Adults need to think like children with a lot of things. Limitless. We can do anything. And then we'll add a little discipline to it when we're starting to formulate these ideas,

Starting point is 00:00:40 but we got to think creatively like children. You care for yourself, you're dedicated. You probably have discipline, not just motivation. So just talk about fitness, the foundation for you and how has that shaped you as an entrepreneur? I have a mentorship community and the foundation is training. It's about more than that, but that's the first. Listen.

Starting point is 00:01:15 Hey guys, welcome back to the ultimate human podcast. I'm your host human biologist Gary Brekka where we go down the road of everything anti aging biohacking longevity and everything in between. And today we've got a twist on your usual guests. As you probably heard from the, from his background, he's a fitness icon, an entrepreneur, but like many of my guests, passion and purpose driven individuals. So welcome to the podcast, Mike Rashid. Thank you. Thanks for having me.

Starting point is 00:01:40 Yeah. It's an honor and a pleasure. Thank you, man. Indeed. I appreciate that. You know, it's a very, very common theme that I talked about at the beginning of most of my podcast. And that's that I find that the most impactful people, the most passionate and the most purpose driven people in the world have

Starting point is 00:02:01 solved some kind of problem in their life. And, you know, I, I look back at your background, you didn't have, I mean, I would call it a troubled background, if you're okay with that term. And I'd love for you to talk about, we're going to talk about some of your successes and some of your passions and some of your purpose, you know, your supplement company, what you're doing in the area of fitness, um, and entrepreneurship. But I really want my audience to kind of get to know you for something. Where did you come from? How'd you emerge from

Starting point is 00:02:33 that? How'd you overcome obstacles? What sort of brought you into this chair today? And, and, you know, what's your driver, man? Yeah, well, I'm from Brooklyn, New York, and I grew up in the 80s. So we like to call it the cocaine 80s. Because that's where I didn't grow up Miami, but I'm from the cocaine cowboy. So you know, as you can imagine, it was a very truculent time,

Starting point is 00:03:00 right? Very volatile times. And I'm talking about it was infestation of crack in our community, especially my neighborhood, especially my house, because my stepfather was one of the biggest drug dealers in New York. So our house corrupted our entire area. Literally, I live there. Yeah, so I seen a lot. We had, I mean, we had multiple houses on that block. We own stores around the corner and we had a mansion in Long Island. So I was, it was like a movie, you know, and I seen a lot of things that a kid probably shouldn't see.

Starting point is 00:03:39 However, I am thankful of some of the things that I experienced because none of it broke me. I'm still here. And my mind is intact. Honestly, I think I have somewhat of a stronger mind for the fact that I did experience so many not so ideal things and figured it out. So you know, I was exposed to a lot, you know, and we were rich. And then he died and then we were poor. So financially poor so

Starting point is 00:04:12 so it didn't it didn't end poorly for your father because of like law enforcement or something it ended well this was my stepfather your stepfather ended. I mean, you live by the sword you die by the sword. He died by the sword. He definitely lived by the sword. So he died by the sword, you die by the sword. He died by the sword. He definitely lived by the sword. So he died by the sword, you know, and the whole empire collapsed like that. Because when you're living that kind of life, sometimes some people can transition out of it. But a lot of times people are just spending as fast as they're getting. There's no real infrastructure set up. There's no, you know, they're not parlaying that

Starting point is 00:04:45 into legitimate businesses. So it fell fast and we had to deal with that. So that was interesting. But one thing about us as human beings is we are successful as a species because we're so resilient. Excuse me, I used to have a driver to school, right? I went from that to like nothing, to real poverty. And I was fine.

Starting point is 00:05:09 Like, I don't recall my childhood being of lack, even though we didn't have, even though we had nights where, you know, my mother had to light candles for lights. She had to hold me on the couch because she's scared and I'm scared, you know, I don't have any power, the power will go out. It's cold, right? Wow.

Starting point is 00:05:27 So, but none of that is not, it wasn't a sad childhood, you know? There's a lot of things that happen, but. And why wasn't it a sad childhood? You had love from your mother. Yeah. Do you have siblings around? I had love. I had my sister, who's like my best friend.

Starting point is 00:05:41 Right on. My mother was such a powerful person, you know? Man, I miss her. She passed away or ascended last year, but she gave me so much, so much love. And my mother, she dealt with a lot, a lot of life, a lot of unideal situations that had nothing to do with her. Her circumstances was shitty out the gate from her parents, you

Starting point is 00:06:06 know. So, you know, what I observed from that, to what I went through, and then the love that I did experience from her, what she was able to give me, but my grandparents and so on and so forth, it just made me who I am today. I'm an accumulation of all of those things. So, you know, I overly love my children just like anybody does. But I'll do it. How many kids do you have? I have three. So, so yeah, so, and that's like, that's my life. Is them. Everything, every decision I make is based on

Starting point is 00:06:36 them, right? Positioning them to be happy and independent people in this world. How old are your kids? 19, my son Elijah. Kaya's 18. She just turned 18. And Ivy, my baby girl, she's nine. She's about to be 10. You look too young to have a 19 year old man.

Starting point is 00:06:54 They say black don't crack. They say black don't crack. Yeah, they don't man. They don't. The dark skin man. But I'm tapping into my ultimate human soul. Thanks to people like you with the research, I'm able to like walk in, you guys just I'm tapping into my ultimate human. So thanks to people like you with the research, I'm able to like walk in, you know, the pathway of, you know, biohacking and trying to reverse age into

Starting point is 00:07:12 a degree. I've heard you talk about how sports fitness, particularly boxing was something because I think everyone needs to have an outlet and something to gravitate to you know, they say they say idle time is the devil's workshop. And I would imagine in the kind of environment you were in, you know, a lot of your peers had a lot of time on their hands and maybe gravitated towards things that that weren't longevity in terms of their

Starting point is 00:07:37 their career, maybe not even in terms of their their their life. So talk a little bit about that transition, you know, it's it's, it's also really astounding to me the number of successful entrepreneurs I know, Stephen A Smith actually wrote an entire book on it, about how they grow up in difficult environments, but the love of a mother was enough of a foundation and enough of a grounding force that you could actually make decisions that were different than what your environment was leading you to believe because I've got to imagine if you're in

Starting point is 00:08:10 that environment, the cool thing to do wasn't to go the opposite direction. Right. So like, give a little insight into you know, what led you out of that, that, that life that that that environment anyway, and I want to say the lifestyle because you weren't in. So it's really interesting. It's somewhat of a paradox because, I mean, my mother was married to this guy.

Starting point is 00:08:32 However, my mother protected me from everything, right? So when he died, we had a period when we went to Florida for a while and it was just as bad there where we was at a place called Sanford, Florida. And it was just, put it like this, there was this is crazy. It was in the projects. Every day you see like white pickup trucks in the neighborhood talking to women that work that live there, right? And you know who these guys were?

Starting point is 00:08:56 They're white guys. They were insurance salesmen. Because people was like young men, boys was getting killed so much. It was just, it was a big hustle selling insurance to mothers. That's a fact. Selling insurance to mothers to ensure their own babies. Life insurance, yeah. Against mothers. Wow. It was so common, right? So, think about this.

Starting point is 00:09:18 One situation, there was a guy in our hood named Killer, right? He killed one of our friends. He was older than us. Nobody came and got arrested him. A week later, he's trying to play basketball with us. And we're scared to death. You know what I'm saying? That's the kind of environment that that was. However, so my mother, she went down there,

Starting point is 00:09:37 she cleaned her life up, got educated, got a degree, started her own home healthcare business in nursing. And she would just take me with her. So when I'm not in school, I would be with her at her clients or patients homes or whatever. And I would just be with her at all times versus being back at home and being outside and being in the riff raff. So my mother, she you know, I have a little brother as well as with 10 years apart. She didn't have the same energy

Starting point is 00:10:04 with him because she was older. but she had enough in her to protect me from a lot of that. From most of it, honestly. So and I have to say that I did have, despite those things, you know, because after that little period, I stayed with my grandparents who were stable. This is in New York, private school, like the whole night. I had a good upbringing. It was just some hiccups. But that's life that happens. I had a good

Starting point is 00:10:30 upbringing. It was very dynamic. Very dynamic. So far, it's been pretty dynamic. Right? Yeah. And you know, I got into some trouble. But that was as an adult, right. But as a child, it was, you know, we got through the rough stuff, but it was smooth. And I think like, is nothing that I've ever faced that was that crazy, right? Maybe to somebody else. But to me, I'm like, let's go. I'm gonna eat it up. Yeah. And I think maybe because I went through or seen

Starting point is 00:10:58 so many scary things as a child. It's like, I'm with all the smoke. Where does fitness, where does boxing, where does your love of that skill come on board and start to take you in that direction? All right, so first of all, in New York, where I lived at, I had friends that was probably better athletes than you'll ever see on TV. It's just the lives were not ideal to go the routes to get put on. So we lived in a very competitive area.

Starting point is 00:11:34 We played every sport outside in the snow. You know what I mean? Yeah. So you grow up being really athletic. You have to be to get noticed in a place like Brooklyn, especially when I when I was one of you, I think New York City is small, it's tiny. But it's a lot of people. So it's overcrowded. And a lot of competition. Everything is competition. Yeah, literally. So I grew up extremely competitive. So and I also grew up in an era of He-Man, GI Joe, Mr. T like WWF. So did I. So... Incredible Hulk.

Starting point is 00:12:06 Yeah, so I wanted to be big and strong like what I saw on TV. And I was fixated on being strong and being fat, like just fit. I never thought about looks because when I started getting into, I guess, training, I was 12, 11 or 12. So I wasn't thinking about how I looked. I was just trying to be strong, right? So I just had that mentality. And my father got me into boxing at a very young age.

Starting point is 00:12:32 And that was like all I needed. I played basketball, baseball, and I boxed. And I loved boxing the most because it was all on me. Like I played baseball, I was really good, but our team lost every game. I didn't like that. I don't want to lose because of this guy, right? So boxing, if you lose, it's your fault.

Starting point is 00:12:55 But if you win, it's your glory. So that was like the ultimate competitive sport for me. And- So how much time, I mean, were like gym rat? Were you? Were you in it all my life? Like, yeah, I've been a gym guy since I was 11 or 12 years old. And how's that shaped? You know, you as an entrepreneur, because I think people really omit the physical fitness part. I mean,

Starting point is 00:13:19 there's a there's a lot to be said for what a lot of people think is being selfish, which is like giving time to yourself, so that you can be selfless and give your time to the rest of the world. I mean, I always give myself for example, the first 90 minutes of every day, I always say the first 90 minutes of every day belongs only to me, not to my kids, not to my wife, not to my business or you know, my my clients. But after that 90 minutes is over, I give everything else away, you know, I try to be present for my wife, for my kids, for my business or you know, my my clients. But after that 90 minutes is over, I give everything else away. You know,

Starting point is 00:13:46 I try to be present for my wife, for my kids, for my business, for my clients. But I think the only way that I'm able to be that president is because I take some time for for for self care. And so just talk about it, you know, is fitness the foundation for you? That's I mean, clearly, you're, you know, is fitness the foundation for you? That's, I mean, clearly you're pretty fit. So it's clearly a priority. Which I echo exactly what you said. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:14:13 Same with my, this is my brother right here, Sean. Like everyone in my circle is the same. The morning, we gotta get it. And I, look, I have a community, I have a mentorship community, and the foundation is training. Like I kick people out, I have a mentorship community, and I tell... The foundation is training. Like, I kick people out if in a certain amount of time, they're not getting in better shape.

Starting point is 00:14:30 It's about more than that, but that's the first... Listen, if I go to church, right, and I'm auditing different churches, and I see the pastors, right, and you're supposed to be living by these seven deadly sins, right? Adhering to the gospel. I don't know what you're doing behind closed doors. I just got to go watch Tell Me. But I can see that you're overweight. I can see that you're a glutton. I would think that that's the easiest thing to hide, to not be, because we see you. I can't trust you. Right? So I feel like that's just a foundation. Like being in shape is loving yourself, right?

Starting point is 00:15:09 You cannot properly love other people if you don't love yourself. Yes. Just being selfish by being, you know, dedicating your mornings to yourself, I don't see that as a problem at all. One of my favorite biohacks outside of breath work by far is mineral salts, Baja Gold Sea Salt.

Starting point is 00:15:25 It's got all of the trace minerals that the body needs. You know, most of us are not just protein deficient, meaning amino acid deficient or fatty acid deficient. We are mineral deficient. So a quarter teaspoon of this in water first thing in the morning will make sure that you get all of the essential minerals that you need. It tastes amazing. In fact, I made a steak today.

Starting point is 00:15:42 I actually made a grass-fed steak with grass-fed butter and I put just mushrooms and a little bit of rosemary and I sprinkled Baja Gold sea salt all over the top. Try it, it'll be your new favorite for cooking too. It's the cheapest and one of my favorite biohacks. I don't know, a 15 or $20 bag of this will probably last you five years. And it's literally the world's best biohacking secret.

Starting point is 00:16:01 Now let's get back to the Ultimate Human podcast. I don't see that. I see it as an absolute necessity. I see it as a non-negotiable. You know, I've heard other entrepreneurs talk about it. It's like when I see somebody who's physically fit and this isn't to shame other people. But when I see somebody who's physically fit, I immediately know at least a few things about them. They're consistent, because you can't can't fake that you can pull up in a Ferrari. And I may or may not know whether or not you're wealthy. But because you can fake a Ferrari, but you can't fake being physically fit.

Starting point is 00:16:32 So what it means is you've had a commitment over a long period of time, you care for yourself. You know, you're dedicated, you probably have discipline, not just motivation. Meaning, you know, you this consistency over time requires discipline, not just to be excited for a period of time. And I tend to believe that it's I have a lot of friends that are not physically fit. And I do business and counsel a lot of clients that are not physically fit either. But I would agree with you that that that first part of the day

Starting point is 00:17:02 if that belongs to you, and there's such a physical connection to the mind. I think if you are weak physically, you have a tendency to be weak mentally. And I think that we have a pandemic not of mental illness in this country, I think we have a pandemic of a lack of mental fitness. So I love that that's a foundation for your community. You know, so so boxing is your your passion, your purpose for your while. You know, I might go so far as to say maybe that's

Starting point is 00:17:33 what kept you steady and maybe kept you from being tugged in the wrong direction in an environment that didn't have a lot of good choices. But now that you know, now you're you're a man, you're you you've got a family. You started a company called the Ambrosia Collective, which is supplement company. How did you transition to now becoming an entrepreneur? I mean, it doesn't sound to me like you had a lot of entrepreneurial mentors in your life. Well, maybe you did.

Starting point is 00:18:02 I was an entrepreneur before that. I was I saw medicine that wasn't prescription. That was illegal. Stuff that's actually legal now. But I was a I was a street pharmacist, as they would say, with a successful enterprise, wholesaling stuff from Mexico to the East Coast, you know. But I did that for a few years and I was good at it. So I always had, I've never fit into like working places. I never, I wouldn't do it. I kind of respect you. And I've had jobs before where I just didn't respect the people. It's not enough money.

Starting point is 00:18:42 Right. So I just never fit that never worked for me. I always, I always did my own thing, right? One thing about being a black man in this country is we start out not feeling like we belong, right? So we start out feeling like, well, the system ain't for me, so I'm gonna do my own thing anyway. So I think that benefited me to a great, a high degree because I've always done my own thing. Now I got out of that life because it wasn't legal. I did and I put my energy in legal things and supplements came up. Like I had a supplement company before that, but Sean and I, me and Sean and one more partner,

Starting point is 00:19:20 we met through just different industry events and we became friends. And one time we was a, well, I watched Limitless, right? I love that movie. You have to make something like that. Yeah. So we sought out to our first product actually is called Mental Jewels is a nootropic. We just wanted to make the most powerful, the best nootropic on the market. And we did because we studied the best ones that were there at the time. And we outdid them, you know, we didn't sacrifice quality at all. It was actually, we had a lot of debate going back and forth because, you know, the ingredients that we source were very expensive, the testing we do is expensive, but we wanted to make it affordable for people. So it's an ultra premium product at a just a premium rate.

Starting point is 00:20:06 Is this is this a part of your like what's it what's it what's a typical morning routine for you? Is this a part of your morning routine? Like walk me through waking up until like Okay, well, all right, my morning routine is this I get up around 445 five o'clock. I do my morning prayers called fajr. And then after that I sit and I go through my life list because I this is this is a very important thing for me is to write out exactly what I want at the time. So I go through that list is in my head, I've written it out,

Starting point is 00:20:36 but it's in my head. And this allows you to visualize it right to see it start visualizing it very specific. Then as I begin my day, I align every decision and action with everything on that list. So from there, I'm off to the gym, train cardio sauna shower, then I'm at my office, probably at the office around nine 930. And then I begin my day. Okay, so that's what now you're ready, though you're switched on. But so where does where does where does some of the Berger collective supplements come into play? Are

Starting point is 00:21:08 you? Are you taking nootropics before you hit the office? What's your basic supplement? I got you. Okay. So I love this. I eat once a day. In the evening. Wow, you maintain this muscle mass once a day. There was a rumor that you're a vegan too. I ate a vegan diet for like two years. It was a few years ago, but I like meat.

Starting point is 00:21:30 I do too. I tried it, but you know, it was cool. But testing blood work, you know, I was healthier. I mean, before I was eating a lot, I was 250, right? So that, and then I went to like like I was eating meat every other day, testing blood work, and it was the same. So it wasn't like veganism made me healthier. It was me restricting my calories to a degree and, you know, just a healthy lifestyle

Starting point is 00:21:57 made me healthy. Would absolutely agree. So and I like me and you cannot get the amount of quality nutrients that you can get the amount of quality nutrients that you can get in salmon or bison without right. And I found that during the vegan thing, it was too many weird foods that were super processed that I didn't really know what it was. So true.

Starting point is 00:22:19 To get that dense amount of protein. I think the whole notion that because it's not meat, it's healthy. That's not, I think that's the problem. I don't have anything necessarily against veganism or vegetarianism. But when you just make the assumption that because it's not red meat, it's healthy. I mean, if you ever read the ingredients on a Numburger

Starting point is 00:22:38 or like a Beyond Burger, I mean, you gotta be a pharmacist. It's weird. And you're a pharmacist, so. Oh, hang on. I know. You can't have a pharmacy backer. And I don't approve pharmacist. It's weird. And you're a pharmacist, so. I am. You can't have a pharmacy dagger. And I don't approve of that. Yeah, exactly.

Starting point is 00:22:50 But now I like meat. Yeah, so do I. But anyway, so first thing I drink in the morning is a product called Nectar. It's a superfoods product. It's 13 ingredients in it. So you know when people have those little pill boxes with all the pills?

Starting point is 00:23:04 We have all of that in one product that tastes really good. I have those little medical pill boxes with all the pills, we have all of that in one product that tastes really good. I got one of those pill boxes. So yeah, I'll see I got you. I got a care package for you. Okay, so I do nectar. And then, while I'm training, we have a product called Hydroglyph that is a hydration product. But it's more than just hydration, right? We have amino acids in it. And we have H and B in it. We have, you know, we have ingredients in it that because we're big on fasting and or at least intermittent fasting

Starting point is 00:23:33 and we don't want people to lose muscle mass. So it's preserving muscle mass is increasing amino acids, increasing muscle protein synthesis and, and hydrating you to a high degree and kind of like keeping the hunger off. So I do that. I'm trained, trained, trained. And then at the office, I'll have a shake. There's some we have a top plant based protein in the country. Right on. Yeah. So I have a glass of plants. I just drink it with water because it tastes that good. And as I'm starting my day, I'm sipping on mental juice, which is the nootropic. Okay. Right. So that's pretty much my So this, this, this was your, this was your, your, your foundation was this the first real

Starting point is 00:24:16 company that in the supplement industry, because then you have trifecta nutrition, which is it? I had a company before it was a way smaller company. Wasn't this level of quality as far as what we had, because I didn't have a team like that. But it did me well financially, but it wasn't like a legacy thing. You know, we were limited in what we had access to at the time. So when I got, you know, you just get with people who have different expertise, and we put our brains together, you know, because that was just me back then. So we were down, bro.

Starting point is 00:24:48 We took it to a whole nother level. So, yeah, this is like the first big, real thing. This is my passion. This is a passion project that actually be end up becoming very lucrative and became a big company. We didn't expect that at all. We just didn't want to lose money. You know, we see a big company like how many employees you got? I mean,

Starting point is 00:25:07 what do we have about? 20? Yeah, right on. Yeah. Okay. So it's a thing. It's his own ecosystem. I mean, when you have and how do you sell is it online through retail stores? I mean, we have a lot of different sales channels online Amazon, vitamin shops, sprouts, GNC, Hy-Vee, we're everywhere. Okay. Yeah, Ambrosia Collective. So it's just moving rapidly, right? And it's not like we have this over the top marketing strategies. people love the product.

Starting point is 00:25:47 Well, I mean, the best thing for any product is- To be good. Yes, for it to be good and actually make an impact. And then you're gonna have a massive referral base. And I'm a big believer in that too. And the majority of my clients come from other clients that I work with. I mean, I think that's the biggest hallmark of success is when you're not

Starting point is 00:26:06 telling your product people that people that are on your account. See, I'm glad that we're here like we're sitting in council with each other because the spirit of our company is like biohacking. Right? Yeah. We were some of the first people in our space talking about biohacking and we got a lot of flak for it. Right? Oh, trust me, I was talking about 10 years ago. We don't care.

Starting point is 00:26:27 Well, we don't care. So, and our people see that we're in this for like real optimization of health, right? Our products are very hard to sell. There's a lot of explaining, you know what I mean? But we figured out how to deliver these messages to people letting them know exactly how effective this is. And you know how to optimize yourself properly and it's not just about supplements. It's a lifestyle. We're talking about training. We're talking about meditation. We're talking about fasting. So we care about the people that patronize our business. So we're not just shoving supplements in your face. To create a community. 100%. Yeah, I truly believe in that. I mean, I actually think that the,

Starting point is 00:27:07 and I'm not a marketing expert by any means, but from what I've seen in the last several years being in this business is that I think that the days of the influencer are numbered. I think people that are not building a true community and servicing a true community, they're not actually adding value. I think that people are not building a true community and servicing a true community, they're not actually adding value. I think that people are so picky, their their attention

Starting point is 00:27:29 span is so short, that if you are not adding value to their life, I don't care if you're a red carpet, a list celebrity, you're not going to maintain their attention or gain their trust, so that you can just carte blanche say, wear this skirt, drink this water, take this supplement, you know. Where there's proof to what you're saying. There's people like Floyd Mayweather, there's people, there's many big name celebrities that

Starting point is 00:27:52 have tried to come up with supplements and products and no one cared. Yeah. Because they could tell there's no passion in it. There's no authenticity. Correct. Yeah, you know, it's really interesting. I've done a number of stage talks on this. And there are even some studies in the Spain scale of emotion, the scale of positive and negative emotion. And there are even some studies that look

Starting point is 00:28:13 at frequency leaving the human body and the frequency of emotion. If you believe in the universal law of attraction, which I do, you know, and most of most of my audience does is that the most powerful emotion, the most attractive emotion, I don't mean the attractive in, in, like an intimate sense, I just mean the most attractive emotion in a human being is is the is the frequency of authenticity. And I think when we talk about people's intuition, you know, like, my wife is very sensitive,

Starting point is 00:28:44 like she'll meet somebody and should be like, you know, I don't know about that guy, you know, or my wife is very sensitive, like she'll meet somebody and she'll be like, you know, I don't know about that guy, you know, or she meets somebody and gets a really good feeling. In the vast majority of the time she's right. And when I look at the actual science behind that, there's science that says that the more authentic a person is, believes what they're saying, is truthful with their words,

Starting point is 00:29:04 then the more attractive they are to other people. And, and I think that goes back to this whole idea of building a community, because it's community, you have to earn people's trust by giving value. Now you've earned their trust, and they're probably still skeptical for a while, and you put them on a product or service, it starts to work for them. But now you've you've you've formulated the magic sauce. You're being authentic to your

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Starting point is 00:30:51 first of all, self care, you know, the sleep, nutrition, exercise, but now you've you've layered in trifecta, right? And this is this is meal prep company. This is this you prepare healthy meals. Yeah. So this was a good friend of mine is the founder. His name is Greg Connolly. This is a, we've been friends forever. And Greg has been, you know, he's a bona fide entrepreneur,

Starting point is 00:31:14 super good guy. And he's been, you know, just trying, trying, trying with so many different things for so long. And then with Trifecta, he had a grand slam. So it was the first, like, I, I guess you I don't want to say gourmet but maybe gourmet style of meal prep delivery like really premium options, grass fed farm, you know, not farm raised organic, you know, and delivered in 24 hours fresh not frozen. And it just went crazy. I was the very first check on the company.

Starting point is 00:31:45 Yeah. So it's a $300 million company now. So that's, things worked out. That's awesome. And you know, I get behind a lot of like grass fed, grass finished farms. I actually try to buy local. We have a little Amish farm,

Starting point is 00:31:58 a little place called Southwest ranches in right in Miami. And I go there and get raw milks, grass-fed, grass-finished meats, pasture-raised eggs, free-range chickens. And I can tell, like when we travel, first of all, I love coming to LA because there's an Arowan.

Starting point is 00:32:12 So the team goes to Arowan, we stock up beforehand. We just eat here. Spent about 10 grand in there, right? Yeah, yeah, 10 grand to get four meals. They're really good meals. Oh yeah, for sure. It'll feed a family of four for about six hours. But, but I but I prioritize those

Starting point is 00:32:29 ingredients over everything. It's like, you know, I spend my money on biohacking devices and and I certainly did not grow up wealthy. But now that I've had some financial success, I'm like, why would I? Why would I start a car collection when I can actually start a biohacking collection? You know, that Ferrari is not going to serve your cellular biology. I get it. No, I get it. But speaking about community, because

Starting point is 00:32:52 you brought that up. And it's interesting, because we started an official community called the Sacred Society last year. And I fell in love with it. I fell in love with the interaction with the people, right? There's no barrier between them and I. So in every week, you know, I prepare a lecture and I'm with them every week. I don't miss.

Starting point is 00:33:17 And you're intentional about preparing. It's my favorite part of the week. Every Thursday is a really busy day for me, every Thursday, because that's when I'm all in with the community, but I'm preparing for it throughout the week. Every Thursday is a really busy day for me every Thursday, because that's when I'm all in with the community, but I'm preparing for it throughout the week with all the other things going on. And it's the most, I mean, just going back and forth with them and then, you know, having accountability calls with them individually is just so rewarding, right? Yeah. And this, and I think this falls into that Maslow's hierarchy needs that self

Starting point is 00:33:46 actualization. It's like this is what I'm here for. It's not the car. Look, I've been through all of that. Yeah, buying the cars, you know, all of the things I don't that doesn't is meaningless to me. Right? This is what I love. Yeah. All right. This person I feel you so much because I have a VIP community called just VIP Ultimate Humans. I get energy from this community. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:34:11 You know, when I get on Zoom calls, I'm like lit up, you know. I call it my drug of choice. And when I give feedback from the community, it fires me up. And so that whole like give without the expectation of receipt. When you see the lives impacted, somebody thanks you for changing their life and they really mean it. I don't know that there's a greater compliment.

Starting point is 00:34:30 I love sitting in the trenches with them trying to figure out the problems. Just come up with a solution. You got this. And sometimes it's just a little bit of encouragement. Nah, but you got, I'm certain you got this. Cause you know, people have been programmed a bad program most of their lives.

Starting point is 00:34:49 And they don't, they typically never had somebody sitting with them like, hey, you fucking up right now. Let's fix this. I'm not, I'm here with you, we're gonna fix this. They don't really have that from someone that really gives a shit about them. You know what I mean? So, and the programming in this country is bad.

Starting point is 00:35:04 You know, I always tell So in the programming in this country is bad. You know, I always tell people divorce yourself from this culture because it's not conducive to a good life. Right? Right. It's conducive to stifling your creativity, your real power, you know, but we got so much people got so much power, so incredible. We were just talking earlier about technology, like TVs and cell phones. This came from a human mind. So I look at my community, I'm like, look, people like y'all did this. What you gonna do? You know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:35:33 So, but people don't grow up thinking these things. Just like I look at my daughter and I try to learn from her, right? Because she has a robust, fertile imagination, right? Whereas as an adult, we have this stringent, that's not rational. We do, yeah. But we gotta like, devoid ourselves of that to a degree,

Starting point is 00:35:54 and have that, adults need to think like children with a lot of things. Limitless, right? We can do anything, I can do anything, right? And then we'll add a little discipline to it when we're starting to formulate these ideas, but we got to think creatively like children. And it's interesting because not to get off subject,

Starting point is 00:36:12 but you look at things like religion when they teach you original sin, like you're born sinners. I'm like, no. The closest thing to divinity is a child is a baby. They're pure. They're perfect, they're holy. So stop telling people that. Stop programming people that they're born bad. People learn bad.

Starting point is 00:36:31 People are born pure and holy, right? And it's our duty to protect them and keep them like that as long as possible and to try to be like them as well. That's how you really tap into that God energy. You know, it's really interesting. I went to dinner last night with a very successful entrepreneur and doctor named Dr. Peter Diamantis.

Starting point is 00:36:50 And he was talking about this abundance 360 that he's created with all these thought leaders. And it's about how to shatter these thoughts of incremental reality. Like, so say you're on an example you used was say you on a, you know, an automotive manufacturer, and your car gets 50 miles to the gallon, and you go to your engineering team, and you go, listen, you guys got to go back to the drawing board, and

Starting point is 00:37:14 figure out how to get this car 55 miles to the gallon. He's like, that's one thing that's a mindset that most people can interpret and understand. But if you go to your engineering team, and you say, I need this to get 500 miles to the gallon, then what forces them to do is scrap all of their, because there's so much efficiency you can get from the tires and maybe upgrading the fuel and you know, but now you've got to go completely back to the drawing board

Starting point is 00:37:41 and reset your entire way of thinking. And I think this is where you get the Jeff Bezos and the Elon Musk and the real thought leaders that innovated something incredible. There's lots of other thought leaders, but I think a lot of these ideas come out of communities like what you're building. It's like you actually challenge people

Starting point is 00:38:03 to solve their own problem. And they become motivated and passionate beyond anything they they ever thought. So, so where does this go for you? I mean, you fitness lifestyle, nutrition, supplementation, you know, you're building a community, you know, what's what's down the road for you? I mean, what's what's right? Mike Rashid's ultimate goal? Well, right now I'm in the process of building a compound in Dubai, right? Moving the family there, but also growing

Starting point is 00:38:40 the Ambrosia Collective to a higher degree, as well as sacred society, me being in different markets is going to open me up to a higher degree, as well as Sacred Society, me being in different markets is going to open me up to just more people, more opportunities. A lot of opportunities in the Middle East right now. So that's part of it, but also I've moved into the peptide space as well. Oh, huge fan of peptides. Yeah, so just expanding in things, all things wellness, all things biohacking, all things optimizing one's complete being.

Starting point is 00:39:05 You mentioned something earlier that I want to touch on about the physical and the mental. I don't see a separation. It's all here. Right. So in one thing leads the other. They benefit each other. Right. So start and in my thought, the foundation is going to be physical fitness training and nutrition off the top has to be on the top. You're not going out. And I was talking to the community last night because we were talking about success. And I'm like, listen, when your mind is healthy, you're going to be successful because you will define what success is. you will define what success is. Y'all right now, y'all looking at Instagram for success.

Starting point is 00:39:45 People with cars and this, when your mind is healthy, you're gonna define what success is, and you're gonna have success, you'll be successful. So that's what I'm on, right? I'm on, I used to be the guy that wanted to like, have every single car, do this, do that, whatever. I have zero regards for any of that now, right? I'm trying to fortify myself spiritually, fortify my relationships with the people that I love.

Starting point is 00:40:16 Because really that's all that I care about, people I love. And from there it goes to the community and everything else. So, you know, I'm walking this life, you know, really with my eyes closed, filling the walls because I'm moving into new spaces right now. And I'm excited about it. Yeah. And most people have a fear of the unknown. I think that comes from our childhood. We have a fear of the unknown and it paralyzes us and it keeps us, I think, very often in

Starting point is 00:40:44 mediocrity for decades because people are afraid to fail in front of their peers or in front of their families or in front of their co-workers or from their colleagues. And I think fear is so, it can be a motivator, but it can also be paralyzing to you. So you start touching on spirituality. Where does faith fall into this for you? What is faith? what does that mean? To me, it's a belief in something, you know, higher than yourself. It's also a belief in a common purpose. It's a belief in delayed gratification that maybe this life is temporary

Starting point is 00:41:15 and we're headed to a better place. You know, it's, you know, I believe that faith is very often missing component in people's lives. And they try to replace it with all kinds of things. They seek dopamine rewarding behavior, which sometimes can be healthy workaholic, work outaholic,ictions are necessarily negative, but I think that that behavior is driven by that spiritual hole that's left in people. That's my sincere belief. But where does that fall for you? Yeah, well, I'm a Muslim. And when I said earlier, I've been working on fortifying myself spiritually. That's just me rededicating myself to my faith, my religion. Because the principles of my religion, it just aligns with me perfectly. You know, praying five times a day, fasting in the holy

Starting point is 00:42:18 month of Ramadan. You know, just me actively trying to be a nicer person to people and more charitable in regards to everyone that I deal with. So that's, that is my faith, right? I'm not a person of belief because I rather know things, right? Whereas a belief is one attaching themselves to a notion or idea without really having evidence, right? Whereas a belief is one attaching themselves to a notion or idea without really having evidence, right? Or I'm all right with saying I don't understand or I don't get it. I don't know. Right. But I'd rather know what I attach myself to,

Starting point is 00:42:57 you know, and, you know, I put a lot on me, like, I put the responsibility of me having a life that I want to have on myself. Right. You know? Yeah. So we were talking about prayer earlier on the drive up here. And I appreciate him so much. This is my this is my guy. Because we always have fruitful conversations, you know, when we have a minute, you know, a drive or sauna or something like that. And I always get so much from it. But we were talking and we get to like really hash out

Starting point is 00:43:30 thoughts and ideas, you know what I mean? Just flesh them out. You might have a notion of something, but sometimes you need to bounce it off somebody like that. And that's what Sean is for me. And you need to bounce it off of, you know, they say you need three friends in your life. Oh yeah. Ride or die. That's when you need three friends in your life for you to ride or die.

Starting point is 00:43:45 That's when you call two in the morning when something's wrong. You need the confidant that you can confide anything to and it stays there. But then you also need the truth teller. Like the one that kind of calls you out on your nonsense and tells you that you need to hear and not what you want. I need somebody to be direct.

Starting point is 00:44:06 Yeah, sounds like it. Sounds like you're having a lot of direct sauna conversations, but I think that's where things really take shape for people. Because one of my former mentors and one of the wealthiest people I've ever known told me, you show me the five people you hang around and I'll tell you exactly

Starting point is 00:44:25 where you're going to be in five years. And, and I said, you can predict half a decade in advance just from the people, the five people that are in my inner circle. And he said, absolutely beyond a shadow of doubt with 99% accuracy. And and I said, well, what matters in those five people? And he went through those characteristics. And then he also, he said, if you don't have that rock in your life, whether it's your relative, whether it's your business partner,

Starting point is 00:44:50 whether it's your best friend, who doesn't let you get away with, not being true to yourself in foolishness, then that's where the hole in the ship's gonna come. That's where the water's gonna enter. So that's where the hole in the ship's gonna come. That's where the water's gonna enter. So that's- I got a question for you. Or this is fascinating to me.

Starting point is 00:45:11 Your ascension into this career, right? It was insurance, correct? That was a mortality. And you were identifying, all right, these people are not gonna live but so long. And you said, you know what? We need to like let people know. So you broke away from the insurance company to start doing what you're doing

Starting point is 00:45:30 now. I think that's incredible. Thank you. That doesn't sound like a money play. It was absolutely not a money play. And I took it was devastating to me and my wife financially. Yeah, I mean, financially, it was the worst decision we ever made. You know, in the first few years, it put an enormous amount of strain on our family. You know, my kids came out of private school, public school, which I'm not, I'm not trying to say woe is me, my kids weren't in private school, but

Starting point is 00:45:58 but that is a woe is me because public school system is just not it's not it. Yeah, it's broken. And you know, we sold our primary residence to make payroll because my wife who's, you know, very frugal and very organized and was keeping the books for us was came home one day and she was like, Listen, you have a decision to make. And she's like, I'm not. I'm paralyzed. I can't make this decision. But we have 90 days until we are either going to miss the payroll or we're going to miss, we're going to miss the

Starting point is 00:46:30 mortgage payment. And you got to decide if we pay in the employees or we're paying the mortgage. It was a very easy decision for me. I was like, we got to sell a house. That's because we're not, nobody's ever going to work for me and get two weeks or 30 days in. And then I tell them at the end of 30 days of hard work that they're not getting paid, that I'm shutting the doors, I'd rather catch up my employees and then and then shut the doors. I had so much conviction in what we were doing. I knew we were on the side of right. Like and I, you know, you talk about

Starting point is 00:46:57 visualization, I could only visualize that outcome. And to me, it was already there. So it didn't didn't stress me out at all. I didn't I didn't actually feel any way any stress from the financial burden. I didn't like the way that it was impacting the family went from four cars to one car and we got three kids and they're in different schools and you got one car and you're shutting around. It's just chaos. But that sincere conviction in the outcome, that destination was so vivid in my mind

Starting point is 00:47:28 that I was like, I'm not scared. That's so impressive. Like I respect that. Thank you. That's kind of you, man. And it doesn't surprise, it's like no shit. No shit, you wasn't stressed. People look now and they're like,

Starting point is 00:47:38 man, you blew up overnight. I'm like, no, no, no, I had a really slow curve for 22 years and then a hockey stick spike, but it started a long time ago. Yeah, not yet. Wasn't a success overnight. And look, I think you fall into the same, people would call it a grinder,

Starting point is 00:47:55 because I think that you have to be fixated on something in the future and you have to be able to visualize the future. For me, I've learned to be very intentional. Like, before I sat down for this podcast, I went around the corner, before you guys got here, I just did a few rounds of breath work, and I was like, what's my intention of this podcast?

Starting point is 00:48:17 And my intention is, I want my audience to get to know this guy. Like, I'm getting to know you now, but I want my audience to get to know you through. Like I'm getting to know you now, but I want my audience to get to know you through the questions that I'm asking and us being real. And, you know, I actually visualize a podcast. I visualize our conversation going well. I visualize my audience picking up on it and going,

Starting point is 00:48:38 wow, I would have never guessed you had them all, but that was an awesome podcast. I took two, three things away from that. And so I'm very intentional that way. Right, right. Yeah. I love that episode with you and Russell Brand. That was so good.

Starting point is 00:48:54 Yes. Yeah. It was. That was so good. It was really, yeah. I talked about getting saved 24 years ago. Yeah. And that was a big moment in my life too. And I don't impose. Russell, Russell brand.

Starting point is 00:49:08 Yeah. Okay. He's a certified wild man. That guy, I get it. I had this weightless vest. I mean, wait, weighted vest and he was, he was shirtless. He's running around my house. Like, yeah, we were like, he had his kids over and his kids are playing with my

Starting point is 00:49:24 nieces and we're chasing the other round. We jumped them, jumping in the cold plunge. We got in the sauna and then my team's like, we got to run this podcast. So he just put the weight of vest on, no shirt and just sat down in the podcast room and rocked it. There's something to be said for just that level of brazen authenticity, you know? And I appreciate, I say this all the time, because my dad used to say it all the time growing up. He's like, if you don't stand for something, you stand for nothing. So if you're afraid of who you are to the

Starting point is 00:49:54 outside world, then I don't think that life's really gonna amount to much for you. A wise man once said, I rather die enormous than live dormant. Yeah. You know, I get it. I get it. I'd rather go out in a blaze of fire than just have this long mundane boring existence. Four year career. Yeah.

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Starting point is 00:51:13 That's morning.theultimatehuman.com and let's change our lives together. Now let's get back to the Ultimate Human podcast. So back to where this goes for you in an ideal world, you're building a compound in in Dubai. And when you say building compounds, it's gonna be a community. Yeah, community. Okay, a neighborhood. Okay, we'll keep it on. It's the next Waco Texas coming in. Maybe. I see you start arming up in there, dude.

Starting point is 00:51:42 Now, this is going to that side of the world to not arm up. Yeah, I'm armed up here and I don't like it. I don't like this. There's nothing for me here, right? I think this is a great nation. Great, not good, right? We live in a world in which you can't criticize anything, especially the system in which is enslaving people like capitalism, it's run amok.

Starting point is 00:52:11 How is it that the number one killer in this country is food? Yes. If food is a bullet, the gun is heart disease, type two diabetes and cancer. And the finger pulling it is food, right? Yes. It's so crazy. We've weaponized and turned food into a drug. We absolutely have, man.

Starting point is 00:52:34 You are preaching. Alcohol is legal. Cigarettes is legal. It's like, what are we really talking about? Yeah. You know, there's capitalism and politics, lobbying candidates. There's capitalism and you know, the criminal justice, the criminal system, no justice, right? Yeah, we profit and education. Like,

Starting point is 00:52:57 what are we really doing? When you're 18, you're getting credit card offers. What are we doing? So I don't want nothing here. I'm good. Yeah. Well, when you think about we profit off incarceration, we profit immensely from foreign wars, we profit immensely from disease. It's not so much that we profit from medicine is we actually profit from the chronic disease that requires the medicine. You know, we profit from the theory that, you know, disease is genetically inherited because if I can get you to believe that you inherited a disease,

Starting point is 00:53:33 then I can easily get you to subscribe to a lifetime of medication. We've gotten, we've lost so much faith in mankind, humanity, you know, the body's ability to heal itself, the power that this has over this. And the divinity of God, in my opinion, that we automatically assume that what man makes us is greater than what God gave us. And by that I mean, if we just got back to not bathing our cellular biology in the toxic soup

Starting point is 00:54:02 and trying to solve those consequences with chemicals and synthetics. And we got more just back to the basics, which is a lot of you don't want to turn this into my podcast, because it's yours. But, you know, I believe that a lot of what has happened in our society is we've just gotten further and further and further away from the basics. Right? Exactly what you're talking about. nutrition, the basics. Right? Exactly what you're talking about. Nutrition, exercise, mindset, community. Right. And what's interesting is the research supports this. You look at the blue zones, right? What did you find in the blue zones? Well, there wasn't any continuity in diets,

Starting point is 00:54:37 whole foods, sense of purpose. And community, friendships. Yeah. They don't talk about that. That should be medicine. Just like music is medicine, right? Yeah. You know, it's like medicine to them is only what they could put in a bottle and charge you every 30 days, what you're going to run out of every 30 days. So in 2020, I experimented with LSD, psychedelics, right?

Starting point is 00:55:03 I'm not a drug guy, and I never did drugs all my life. I did it at that little period of time. But I did a lot of research before trying it. Right. And you know, the research that I saw, and based on my experience, my very first experience with it, I got angry at that angry at the government for lying. Yeah, they had this as a schedule one drug, highly addictive, no therapeutic or medicinal benefits. What are you talking about? It's not addictive at all. The therapy is, it was created for therapy, for one, right? It was created to get people off of illicit drugs, alcohol, smoking, so on and so forth.

Starting point is 00:55:45 It also was created for people who, you know, the pharmaceutical medication for depression and anxiety and so on and so forth wasn't working. So you did two days of intensive therapy with that two heroic doses, back to back, no symptoms for six months, right? Now I wasn't depressed or anything like that, but when I did my journey,

Starting point is 00:56:06 I was just a nicer person for a minute. Like I was a lot lighter, a lot brighter, and it's nothing in it made me wanna keep doing it. Know what I mean? Like I- You weren't addicted to that. It's been years, right? I think that's the same way with a lot of neurotropics.

Starting point is 00:56:20 And you know, for me, the jury's still out because I haven't finished conclusively reading all the research. But I think there's a lot of promise in things like medicinal mushrooms, not for tripping, but for improving cognitive function. I think that, you know, we have an endocannabinoid system in the body, we can look at endocannabinoids. I mean, I don't think that anything is necessarily off the table, especially if it's been put through rigorous, you know, clinical trials. I think sometimes we make enormous leaps in science, you know, people

Starting point is 00:56:56 will say, cows eat grass, cows have a lot of muscle, we should eat grass. It's like sometimes we draw these conclusions that, you know, that aren't that aren't linear, they don't make logical scientific sense. But one of the things I'm most excited about with this Make America Healthy Again movement is that I think the government is going to be a lot more receptive to non pharmaceutical non chemical interventions, and, and actually going back again to the basics diet lifestyle, spiritual

Starting point is 00:57:27 well being, sense of community, when was that, you know, the last time that your doctor said, how your blood pressure is high and your thyroid is a mess, your cortisol is elevated, you got to get stress out of your life. And so, okay, Mike, well, you just need to get stress out of your life. So what does that mean? Like get a divorce stuff, talking to my kids and quit my job, because that's where the stress comes from. It's not practical. Like, if we were armed to give people really good advice, hey, build a community,

Starting point is 00:57:54 find a circle of like minded people, get the toxic relationships out of your life. Things that you could actually do, you know, that would benefit you and reduce your stress. Because I would bet that if I looked at your life from the outside in, I'd be like, okay, he's running these companies, he's moving to Dubai, he's got a family, he's got three kids on board. You know, he comes from a you know, a color background, he's, you know, now he's iconic in this space, you've got a community that you're building, you got a lot going

Starting point is 00:58:26 on. So from the outside in, you'd say, this guy should be really stressed out. And you know, what's amazing is some of the busiest people I've ever known, including myself, are not stressed at all, because they love what they're doing. Because they found that community, they found that purpose. And I think there's a lot more meaning in that in terms of its impact on people's health. I want to touch on something you spoke about though, because the skeptic in me cannot just let this slide. Okay, about our government, right? Make America healthy. That sounds great. I know everything they always say sounds great. And I have to look at the leadership. There's y'all are fat.

Starting point is 00:59:08 Y'all are overweight. Y'all are stressed. Y'all don't they don't see. Bobby Kennedy is pretty fit. OK, he's the only one. But it's like these people are not involved in anything of a spiritual nature. It doesn't seem true. You know, it seems power, money, aggression.

Starting point is 00:59:23 So it's like they say these things. I want people to look, I'm not a political guy at all. I don't care who's whatever. But don't wait on them and don't rely on them. We should be doing these things already. Regardless, I don't care if they're them saying is cool. But as far as like anybody I know, we this is welcome to the party. Yeah, exactly. We've been here a long time. So people, you know,

Starting point is 00:59:53 dig, dig in. Today is the youngest you will ever be. So start getting crazy about your nutrition, your training, your meditation, your community, all that. Do that now. I agree. Don't wait. Right. So yeah, I'm not waiting on no initiatives from anybody from. Yeah. It's just to me, it's not waiting either. They just they sound good. They got to say these things. What's what's exciting to me is the potential to affect public policy because right now I've reached millions of people, which has had an amazing impact and I'm gonna continue to do that. You've probably reached millions of people.

Starting point is 01:00:32 But sometimes, you know, my message is not making it down to the masses, right? And the possibility that we could potentially affect public policy is very intoxicating to me from the standpoint of making an impact. And what would that look like though, the public policy side of this kind of lifestyle. So the public policy side would look like somebody having the intestinal fortitude to stop pharma from advertising directly to the consumer, not so that they

Starting point is 01:01:06 don't advertise to the consumer, but so they don't control the media narrative. Looking at corruption in our, you know, system of the Food and Drug Administration and the Centers for Disease Control and the National Institute of Health, where are they getting their funding from? And is funding for public policy coming from private industry? In other words, if the food industry is funding food studies that set our public policy, this is how you end up with a food pyramid that Lucky Charms is more nutritious than grass-fed steak. And to me, that is the greatest oxymoron of all time, because the majority of the population, as they probably

Starting point is 01:01:51 should, is going to trust our government. You know, when you drop your kid off at public school in the morning, you're usually not worried about what's going to happen to your kid. Um, because you trust that that school system has the best interest of your kid at heart, they're going to educate them the best they can, they're going to keep them safe, and they're going to get back in the car with you that night, and

Starting point is 01:02:11 things are going to go well. That might not necessarily be the case. And so I either think you remain silent. And in my opinion, become a part of the problem. Or you speak up and at least try to do something and because you can't do everything, doesn't mean you shouldn't do something. You know, like I'm disappointed in our agricultural secretary that was just hired because she was the president of the seed oil society, which I think is, is the root of a lot of inflammatory conditions and whatnot.

Starting point is 01:02:46 But I'm not I'm not like, well, they did that. I'm done. No, I'm still going to do whatever I can to, you know, get the word out and and have a minor amount of influence. They could have a massive impact. And I have nothing financially to gain. I have nothing to sell into this system. I have nothing to benefit from that system. You know, I don't want the government to buy my product or service and distribute it to people. I just think if you look at your eulogy virtues, when the sun sets on this lifetime,

Starting point is 01:03:15 what do you want people to say about you and what kind of impact were you gonna make? And so I'm gonna do everything I can. I disagree with you on one thing. Your message is getting downstream, right? So it's just a matter of time before things hit a tipping point for anybody. Right. But that if it hits a tipping point or not, that's not important. What's important is

Starting point is 01:03:34 listening. I learned about this hydrogen water at Dave by the owner of my kid's school at his house. That's you. This is your thing. Right? Yeah. So, you know, the message is there, you're effective, it's getting out. Now, when it comes to policy, I just have a hard time believing that they're gonna deny these billions of dollars

Starting point is 01:03:57 or these hundreds of millions of dollars from Big Pharma, from who helped them get to where they are now. And let's not get it twisted. Both sides, the Republican and Democrat, is two wings on the same bird. Their daddies are the same people, right, on both sides. It's just whoever wins. Now, you know, that's the gateway for business

Starting point is 01:04:19 for these entities. So I just want people to have a realistic expectation about what's to come. Don't be bummed out if nothing changes. Because for things to change, that mean a lot of people not going to be making money, right? And they're not that they don't play about their money. Yeah. You know what I mean? Big level billionaires, these industry, the cigarette industry, the food industry, they don't play about their money. So I don't see that like anybody shutting any of that down, you know? Yeah, I don't see that as a reason to not try.

Starting point is 01:04:51 And you may very well be right. But I'll find out the hard way. I'll give as much effort and time and energy to that as I can. I think one of the things I see shifting is that, you know, if you what elected the last president was it was circumventing the media and going through social media platforms, podcasts and stage talks. And, and I'm not saying I'm not, I'm not making, you know, an argument for one side or the other. What I'm saying is, I think that you know, an argument for one side or the other. What I'm saying is, I think that there's an opportunity

Starting point is 01:05:27 for messages to tap the masses without going through the standard media filter channels, which in my opinion, are all corrupted. Well, I think that is the way that messages, that's the only way is tapping the masses. That was the way you and I are building our businesses now. Correct, correct. And making our impact.

Starting point is 01:05:42 You was on the biggest media outlet, there is, is Joe Rogan. Yeah. You was on the biggest media outlet there is, it's Joe Rogan. You know what I mean? That was amazing. So yeah, so this is mainstream media. Social media is the new media. We should stop taking the social. It frustrates a lot of people, man.

Starting point is 01:05:54 We should take the social off of it, just call it media. I mean, look at every news, boring news, dude, they got a little YouTube thing now. You can check out our YouTube thing. You know what I'm saying? They don't even need to look. It's you can check out our YouTube thing. Give me a light. You know, what's cool too is that people can be ultra selective. Like when I turn on the news, I don't have a choice

Starting point is 01:06:11 over what's being streamed. Right? Right. They're going to talk about, you know, the fires in Los Angeles or the lays going on in the political arena or the last football game. Well, I might not care about football. I might not watch soccer, but I'm gonna have to sit through that. Whereas now, with the with the new, you know, media platforms, they can say, man, I like this guy's message, I'm gonna select in to follow him or follow Gary, I like what Gary's saying what he's doing. And they so people

Starting point is 01:06:37 opt in to get that information. And they get a lot of condensed information in an area where you like fashion, you're following this person. And you know, that's the beauty of it. But I got, what do you think about this? Here's the thing. People are consuming information, whether it seems meaningful or not. A lot of it is just entertainment to them. Right? Even if it's I know people that

Starting point is 01:07:01 study for years, whatever you pick a thing and they're not going to execute, they're just going to keep watching podcasts on that particular topic. Right? So we were talking about this other day, like, it just seemed like nothing matters because if a person has a specific bias towards or against something, all the logic and rationale in the world is not going to change their mind. And who cares? They don't care.

Starting point is 01:07:26 They don't care about the truth, right? They don't want to hear your evidence. If you present very compelling evidence, well, I don't trust that source. Right? So it's like, it's kind of like disheartening to even try to have some of these discussions in the macro. Because it seems like people just, I don't know, maybe it's so much information, right? Information overload to where people are desensitized to things. I mean, listen, we had like a couple weeks of congressional hearings about aliens and nobody cares.

Starting point is 01:07:58 Like, you know, it's like, wait, wait, wait, wait. Yeah, on human biological, even if it's bullshit, let's get to the bottom of this, right? Right. Nobody gives a shit. But I'm saying so it's like, I'm like, look, I'm blown away about so many things. But it's like we can't have these conversations because nobody cares. I think to an extent, you're right. But I think it goes back to the God helps those who help themselves. Meaning, you you have to put a message out to the world.

Starting point is 01:08:25 It's gonna land on receptive ears for people that are gonna take action. It's gonna land on skeptical ears from people that are going to attack you and it's gonna land on ears that just completely fall deaf on. Still doesn't mean that you don't put the message out. One of the interesting things I've found

Starting point is 01:08:40 about just being so consistent and so intentional, you know, just like having a podcast. It's, I don't think a lot of people realize what a commitment it is. You have to turn out content every single week and it's gotta be entertaining and it's gotta serve your audience and it's gotta create value or you will lose listeners.

Starting point is 01:08:59 And I also turn out something called a podcast short, which I release every Thursday. So it's eight very large pieces of content that you have to turn out. Then that's got to be chopped and edited and translated into other languages. The words got to be put on and it's got to be, you know, you have to make sizzle reels to grab people's attention. I mean, it's a production and it's a serious commitment. What I've found is I'm starting to find, I mean, I found plenty of skeptics, right? That attack me online.

Starting point is 01:09:28 Probably got people doing the same thing with you, right? And I think you have to look past that and say, I'm still gonna hammer this message because I believe in it so much. And I've seen that community grow. You know, I mean, we had 28 million impressions. I'm not saying that that's it. I'm, my heels are dug in to do the work. I'm here for it. You know, it's just a little bit disheartening. That's all I'm saying. You know how aloof it seems some people

Starting point is 01:09:57 are and not caring. Right. You know, so that's all, you know, it's just, it's just like, right. Yeah, you know, so that's all you know, it's just it's just like, yeah, I want to say, yeah, I don't know. Is that as soon as you become successful messaging, by the mere success that you've succeeded, or had some kind of financial benefit from it that automatically makes it nefarious. And I don't believe that at all. Yeah. And that's that, because I desperately tried to give people low or zero cost choices. And I don't want to be known as the person that only works with celebrities or a listeners or

Starting point is 01:10:37 rich people, I want to be known as the one trying to make an impact on the masses. But some people are so myopic and they'll just they don't realize that I wasn't an overnight success. And I'm still as committed to my message now as I was back then that nobody just knew who I was back then. And the connection that somehow success means you must be doing something nefarious as Yeah. Well, you know, that is? Sigmar Freud called that slave

Starting point is 01:11:05 morality versus master morality, right? So if you look at it, so one who embodies the master morality podcast by way like, I forgot who's interviewing who, but this is going really well. One who embodies a master morality. You know, they're confident, they're shooting for the stars, so on and so forth. These are the leaders and the kings and the entrepreneurs and people who are shifting

Starting point is 01:11:31 society. And then the slave morality is this. Now there's two types of mass of morality though. There's one that keep the slave morality, slave mentality, they keep them there. What they do is they pedal division, they pedal fear, they pedal, you never be anything, you're a sinner, like that kind of energy, right? Then you have another master morality

Starting point is 01:11:54 where I think I fall under, where we're trying to educate those who have a slave morality to get out of that, right? You know, there is no, so, one with a slave morality, with a true slave morality, they find oppression to be where the ethics are, right? It's like, they stand against, they stand for nothing. They stand against everything, right? So anybody that's rich, that's powerful, they're evil.

Starting point is 01:12:22 They're bad, right? Yeah. So, and they don't look at them, they believe things like, I think it's a quote in the culture of Christianity, because it's not real Christianity. They say, it's easier to go through the eye of, for a camel to go through the eye of a needle

Starting point is 01:12:39 than a rich man to get into heaven. Why? Why? Who came up with that? Yeah, who came up with that? It's nonsense, right? So if a person is oppressed, Some of the wealthiest people If a person is oppressed In history written in the Bible

Starting point is 01:12:50 That is a temporary condition. Let's get out of that. Let's get out of that. We're not sitting here. It's temporary. And that right there should fuel you to be successful, fuel you to be great, to never be there again. So the one who embodies a slave morality, everything is evil. And they're even going to try, right? And, you know, you got to like, look at life for what it is. Like, it's like, we all want the same things. But y'all are acting like y'all hate it on this

Starting point is 01:13:17 side, because you're not here. But you're not here yet. You can get here if you try. Yeah, don't hate me. Ask me questions. Exactly. Like, what do they say? Like, you know, everybody enjoys the view. Very few people enjoy the climb. And it's, it's very true. You know, former mentor of mine said, lots of people want to do what I do. No one wants to do what I've done. And I think that's, you know, I think that's so true. They don't see the struggle. They only see the outcome. And, um, and it's so much beauty and the, the grind to the top. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:13:51 That's how you get, that's how you get, that's how you get strong. It's such a best. I would switch it for, it brought my family so tight together, you know, having my kids in the hunt with us, it brought Sage and I, my wife, you know, we, we were boyfriend and girlfriend and we were fiance and girlfriend, then we were fiance, and then we were husband and wife. And I think in some ways, the greatest relationships are the ones that go through everything that's meant to tear them apart, and they survive. That's testing your mettle. Yeah. It's like, we're supposed to go through this. And now let's- It doesn't seem like that when you're in it, but-

Starting point is 01:14:22 supposed to go through this. And now let's It doesn't seem like that when you're in it. But I look at life like this, like, anything of character, right? Friendship or whatever, is for those hard times, right? I wait, I, I'm sitting here patiently for the day that one of my friends need a kidney. You know, like, yeah, I got it. I can't wait to show you or whomever. Listen, character is developed in hard times. It doesn't, when everything is good,

Starting point is 01:14:50 the money's up, everybody's happy, it's easy to be a nice person then. How are you gonna act when you're being attacked from all areas, right? How are you gonna act when you lose your job, you lose your girlfriend, whatever, right? So that's when you have to develop and display character. And that's when it matters.

Starting point is 01:15:07 Not when everything is smooth and copacetic and people gotta understand that and get fired up when those hard times come. Like, all right, now I'm gonna step it up. This is my time to shine. Yeah, I love that, man. So this has been amazing, by the way. Much better than I even thought

Starting point is 01:15:21 because I like to get philosophical on things, but we're gonna move into my VIP Ultimate Human Community. Before we do that, I ask all of my guests the same question. OK. And there's no right or wrong answer to this question. If you watch my podcast, maybe you're ready for it. But what does it mean to you to be an ultimate human? Ultimate human is to be a God of oneself, right?

Starting point is 01:15:47 So if I'm my own God, that means I am in control of my destiny in a real way, right? So I can't blame anything or anybody on my shortcomings, right? Because once I blame them, then they control me. They're my God and I'll never do that. But I don't have shortcomings, because I don't get sick't I don't get sick. I

Starting point is 01:16:07 don't lose like all of the negative things does not apply to me. Why? Because I create my own reality. And that's what gods do. They create things, right? All existence is only in existence because we are conscious of it. That means we create our reality. Okay? When you start looking deeper into things, consciousness is the precursor to creation, to all things.

Starting point is 01:16:33 If someone's behind you making faces at you and you don't know it, they're not there. It's not a reality of yours, right? So I am my own God. So I control everything in my existence, my health, my finances, my mindset, my everything. I look, my destiny is based on the decisions that I make. So that's being the ultimate and also being an ultimate is this. I know that there's a day that's going to come when this is not going to be in the use anymore.

Starting point is 01:17:05 Yes. So what does that mean? I'm going to go hard to the fucking paint until I get there. You know what I'm saying? I'm maxing out. I'm maxing out. I'd rather die at 50 as a legend than to be a hundred. This boring old man, like nothing about him.

Starting point is 01:17:22 So I tell my people like, yo, when I get to a certain point when I'm not useful take me out to the desert and I'm writing it out. I'm writing it down. Y'all have my permission. So that's that's maxing out like like understanding that death like what we call death I don't even think that's a bad thing but the word is death is we have to name things, right? Should be a motivator to live to the fullest every fucking day. Yeah, nobody gets out of this thing alive. Yeah, so max it out. Be ultimate. That is amazing. Well, if you're interested in becoming a VIP ultimate human,

Starting point is 01:17:57 you can go over to theultimatehuman.com and sign up to be a VIP. Mike and I are going to move into the VIP chat right now and do some direct one-on-one questions but until next time guys that's just science

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