The Ultimate Human with Gary Brecka - 143. Anthony & Tereza Lolli: The Biohacking Power Couple Who Proved The Medical System Wrong

Episode Date: February 25, 2025

Can a single family’s health crisis spark a revolution in personalised medicine? The story of Anthony and Tereza Lolli suggests exactly that. In this interview, we discussed how a 315-pound executive and his biohacking-savvy wife transformed not just their own health, but launched a movement that’s reshaping our understanding of personalised wellness. This interview reveals never-before-shared details about their methodical approach to health transformation, including their discovery of hidden mold toxicity, genetic mutations, and groundbreaking protocols that reversed seemingly intractable health conditions. Want to understand why some people break free from chronic health struggles while others remain stuck? Watch and discover how biohacking is helping thousands reclaim their health through precise biological optimization.  Join the Ultimate Human VIP community and gain exclusive access to Gary Brecka's proven wellness protocols today!: https://bit.ly/4ai0Xwg Connect with Anthony & Tereza Lolli: Watch Anthony & Tereza Lolli’s documentary, “Biohack Yourself”: https://bit.ly/4gZ0a54 Connect with Anthony & Tereza Lolli: Website: https://bit.ly/43cuVR8 YouTube: https://bit.ly/41ftPBj Anthony’s Instagram: https://bit.ly/4gY6dHp Tereza’s Instagram: https://bit.ly/43aXCNZ TikTok: https://bit.ly/3DijWuB Anthony’s Facebook: https://bit.ly/41d9YTi Tereza’s Facebook: https://bit.ly/4i9NlpJ Thank you to our partners: H2TABS - USE CODE “ULTIMATE10” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/41o6HSC BODYHEALTH - USE CODE “ULTIMATE20” FOR 20% OFF: http://bit.ly/4e5IjsV BAJA GOLD - USE CODE "ULTIMATE10" FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/3WSBqUa EIGHT SLEEP - SAVE $350 ON THE POD 4 ULTRA WITH CODE “GARY”: https://bit.ly/3WkLd6E STRENGTH TRAINING EQUIPMENT - THE ULTIMATE HUMAN: https://bit.ly/3zYwtSl COLD LIFE - THE ULTIMATE HUMAN PLUNGE: https://bit.ly/4eULUKp WHOOP - GET 1 FREE MONTH WHEN YOU JOIN!: https://bit.ly/3VQ0nzW MASA CHIPS - GET 20% OFF YOUR FIRST $50+ ORDER: https://bit.ly/40LVY4y VANDY - USE CODE “ULTIMATE20” FOR 20% OFF: https://bit.ly/49Qr7WE PARKER PASTURES - PREMIUM GRASS-FED MEATS: https://bit.ly/4hHcbhc AION - USE CODE “ULTIMATE10” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/4h6KHAD HAPBEE - FEEL BETTER & PERFORM AT YOUR BEST: https://bit.ly/4a6glfo CARAWAY - USE CODE “ULTIMATE10” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/3Q1VmkC Connect with Gary Brecka: Instagram: https://bit.ly/3RPpnFs YouTube: https://bit.ly/3RPQYX8 TikTok: https://bit.ly/4coJ8fo X.com: https://bit.ly/3Opc8tf Facebook: https://bit.ly/464VA1H LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/4hH7Ri2 Website: https://bit.ly/4eLDbdU Merch: https://bit.ly/4aBpOM1 Newsletter: https://bit.ly/47ejrws Ask Gary: https://bit.ly/3PEAJuG Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 02:33 How Anthony’s Biohacking Journey Started 04:03 Having a Strong Support System to Achieve Significant Changes 10:43 Tereza’s Early Menopausal and Their Son Suffering from Mold Toxicity 15:39 Documentary: Biohack Yourself 30:38 What’s Next After the Documentary (White House, MAHA, Discussions on Mental Health, Biological Dentistry) 39:39 Make America Healthy Again Movement (MAHA) 43:25 Informed Consent 46:44 Biohack Yourself Platform is Medical Freedom 51:41 Biohacking Will Not Only Save Lives, But Also Families and Marriages 53:20 What does it mean to you to be an “Ultimate Human?” The Ultimate Human with Gary Brecka Podcast is for general informational purposes only and does not constitute the practice of medicine, nursing or other professional health care services, including the giving of medical advice, and no doctor/patient relationship is formed. The use of information on this podcast or materials linked from this podcast is at the user’s own risk. The Content of this podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical condition they may have and should seek the assistance of their health care professionals for any such conditions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I had made a decision to kind of die by obesity. So I had tried to lose weight like nine times. Finally, it was through her putting her foot down and saying, look, we love you, and we want you to do something about it. That's the most vulnerable time in your life when you're at the before stage, because you're like, OK, I'm all in, but this could not work.

The catalyst of his change was discovering that mini bubble of transformation. So it was no longer weight loss, or he was afraid of losing that battle again. bubble of transformation. So it was no longer weight loss where he was afraid of losing that battle again. It was transformation. We had the honor to sit down with the most famous bodybuilding champions. It turns out they're all biohacking.

And so we said, why don't we create a situation where we can interview the best people in this bubble and also heal ourselves at the same time. So we created a documentary and we titled it, Biohack Yourself. I'm so excited for documentaries like this because I think for the first time we can go around mainstream media

and go directly to the consumer. It was very important to give solutions to our audience. And I didn't want to watch documentaries about how bad everything is. I just wanted solutions. We talked a little bit about the documentaries. What are you going to serve up to the public in the next few years? Can I tell you two things that blew my mind?

Hey guys, welcome back to the ultimate human podcast. I'm your host human biologist Gary Brekka, where we go down the road of anti-aging, longevity, biohacking, and everything in between. And today I'm super excited. We were just talking before the podcast about how the tables are turning to go from being interviewed to being the interviewer. And welcome to the podcast, Anthony and Teresa Lali.

Thank you. Thanks for having us. I'm so excited to have you guys because, um, like we were talking about before the podcast started, I see so many power couples, um, in this industry now, really making a move, you know, in an attempt to make a difference. Um, I find that most of them have some kind of story, right? There's, there was a tipping point, a problem that they solved in their life and in solving this problem they've become some of the most impactful people in the world and I think that you guys fit into that

category for sure. First of all before we even start I want to say it was an absolute honor and a blessing to be invited Sage and I to be a part of your SHIELD documentary, She Healed. you guys what we'll link that in the show notes below just the intention that you put that together with simply amazing. So I wonder if you guys might start maybe Anthony first with telling me a little bit about your journey. Like what brought you here? Why are you a biohacker?

Well, it started with me being 315 pounds five years ago. So you know, Teresa has this joke. She was maha before the word was invented. It was make Anthony healthy again. Yeah. Yeah. And so she was the RFK with them at 315 pounds. My goodness. Yeah, we met about 13 years ago. Yeah, we disappear. Yeah. Well, when when our son Legend was born, that kind of broke the camel's back because he actually had a few autoimmune conditions. He broke out an eczema and he had few things. And that's a whole journey that I went on, right?

He was misdiagnosed about nine times with all kinds of conditions. And not only being misdiagnosed but being given supplementation and medication that would have then made him sicker and more ill. So what happened was the moment they said he has a restless leg syndrome, I was like, I'm done with this. Like I'm going the other route and I'm going to see 20 of these other doctors. I had no idea what functional medicine was or alternative medicine was. But to tie it back into his health was when Legend was up every night, four or five times a night,

I was up nursing him back to sleep. And I would hear him almost stop breathing. So his sleep apnea was getting worse and worse. And that was really like, that was our clarion call. It was a clarion call. Cause I had made a decision to kind of die by obesity. So I had tried to lose weight like nine times. I even did the gastric sleeve, lost 50 pounds,

and then put on 70, but it was worse because now I couldn't absorb food, proteins. So I was worse off, my BMI was off the charts. And I just said, look, it's not gonna work, honey. I know you want me to get fit, but is how I'm designed but the other opposite end of the pendulum is that my success was growing so there was no one around me except my loved one saying this is not good ever was just a bunch of yes people around me saying this is great this is great yeah and so finally it was through

her putting her foot down and saying, look, we need you alive because the kids love you. We love you and we want you to do something about it. And then we decided to really just take it on like I would a business venture. And I said, okay, now I'm in the business of getting myself in shape. So what would I do if this was a real estate project? I would hire an architect. I would hire this.

In this case, I hired a transformation coach to live with me. Wow. Yeah, that's a commitment. That was a commitment. And we had kind of been in media and entertainment. I was an executive producer, we do stuff together. She was a singing model and actress. So I'd already been in that world. But for the first time, I stepped in front of the camera, let the guard down and did a complete transformation documentary that went viral during the pandemic.

Yeah. Yeah. And you know, that's the most vulnerable time in your life when you're at the before stage because you're like, okay, I'm all in, but this could not work. And I'm basically going to document my failure. That's right.

You know, I do the same thing. I have a VIP community that I share information with. And lately I've just said, you know, I'm gonna be exceedingly transparent and authentic and talk about my own health journeys because there are still some things, you know, I'm going to be exceedingly transparent and authentic and talk about my own health journeys because there's still some things you know, I recently got metal poisoning from a from a machine that I thought was structuring my water and end up giving me metal toxicity. And so how am I going

to get the metals out of my, you know, out of my blood, my daughter suffering from severe mold and mycotoxin poisoning from a mold infection. And there's just not a lot of good information out here. Just like what you were talking about. Classic diagnoses. Now you have restless leg syndrome, you have hypertension, you have hypothyroid, you know, you have mild depression. Of course you do because you're in 15 pounds and you're suffocating all night. Now you have sleep apnea. And

it's just all of these spokes of the wheel, but not really looking for the hub, right? And you found the hub. Found the hub. That was one hub that I found. And we were able to resolve and mitigate the weight loss situation. And that turned into us really doing a dive

into bodybuilding. Because once you learn about transformation, you learn that there's a whole community of people that have completely erased what they look like, and they're competing. So we got involved in that. And then she got bit by the bug and wanted to because the now was the opposite. Now I was the one in shape. You guys look amazing. He kept calling me, babe, we're the beauty and the beast. But if somebody dares to call you the beast, send them over. But if somebody dares to call you the beast, send them over. But the thing is, you know, you said a hub, right?

I think the catalyst of his change was discovering that mini bubble of transformation. So it was no longer weight loss, where he was like afraid of losing that battle again. It was transformation. It was a new toy. Right. Oh, there's many people that are doing this. There's many people on Instagram talking and commenting on each other. So it's like, that's what I'm gonna do. So what we do, the first thing I did was to create a visual image of

that. So I photoshopped his head on a very muscular model's body. Really? On Google. And I printed it out. I literally put it on the ceiling in the bedroom, in the bathroom, wherever he spends the most amount of time time above the TV. It's unavoidable avoidable, so it goes into your subconscious and believe it or believe it or not your subconscious makes your entire life So all of a sudden from that image he finds this transformation coach next thing, you know a month later He's living with us next thing. You know, our my mom moved in with us So it was his mom my mom mom, the two real young babies. As our daughter's acting career at two years old

is picking up, she's booking national commercials here and there, casting, auditioning, and our son is going through his health battles, where I'm going crazy, examining the functional medicine world, we had support. So imagine it was the wrong, the most wrong time that he could have ever picked up trying to lose this weight. But the support that we created around us, the hub within the hub,

right? The transformation hub was the discovery. Then we created our own installation hub and we said, this is what we're doing together. And so my mom was the cook, the person who would put the kids to sleep. His mom was the Swiss army knife. It takes a village. It takes a village, it was amazing. Yeah, but you know, I think when everybody is on this journey, it makes it, my wife and I started

a functional medicine clinic 10 years ago in a strip mall. We took over a little vitamin shop in a strip mall in Naples, Florida. And we were both on the deck of the same ship. You know, we're both rowing towards the same goal. We had the same passion, the same purpose. I'm not gonna say it was all easy, right? And this probably wasn't a completely easy journey

for you guys too, because anybody that says you can separate work from your private life is lying to you. And as you guys go on this journey, this seems to me, I don't wanna put words in your mouth, but inspired your life to go in a different direction. Absolutely completely transformed our life. And then Teresa started looking into her health, right? Yeah. So then she

went through her own physical transformation journey from the outside. So we started competing and we competed together. Competing together? 32 times. Eight months straight. So I went from being an obese guy who wouldn't even be cast to play the father of my own kids on some commercials that the kids booked they'd have to get a model we would get a lot of those mom mom yeah kids yeah an actor dad yeah and he'd be the BTS I would be the BTS that was what he's doing that's that's what I would be doing on some other guy

so anyway that's gotta say it was know, was that and amongst other things. And then what ended up happening was, she's like, Wait a minute, I have a mom bod. Let's compete. So 32 times around the world, we competed. We did a docu series about that. Turns out there's a lot of other couples that struggle with weight and, and challenges and, and use exercise to bond. So this kind of solidified our relationship even further. A lot of people are actually afraid to dive into that

because they think they need each other's space and there's all these myths about working out together, right? But then there's also this hashtag, couples who work out together, stay together. Well, for us, that was an incredible journey of strengthening our relationship. So out of nowhere, she becomes a two time bikini pro.

I become a muscle model pro. Wow. Then we're like, wow, we made it physically. Turns out her hormones were out of whack. I went into early menopause for three months. Yeah. Wow. Because of the body fat for for extended amount of time. I didn't know I wasn't coached.

We were being coached for meal plans and getting to that perfect body shape for the competition. But nobody was nutritionally coaching us. And I think this is something that goes lost on a lot of women. I say it all the time, intermittent fasting is not a one size fits all. And some of the worst endocrine disasters we've seen in our clinic system

were young menstruating women that ate in a very narrow feeding window. They had very, very strict diets were very narrow feeding windows, two hours, four hours, which, you know, all the conventional wisdom says, Oh, that's great, you know, one meal a day. But for for women, it can really jack up your hormones, especially because of the changes that you have throughout the month, whether you're follicular, ovulation or

luteal, you know, you have different, different nutritional needs. And we're like different signs, right? So yeah, we were like, okay This is not maybe the journey to clearly health my bodybuilding extreme bodybuilding and the kind of diet and exercise we were doing Then we were asked to do a bodybuilding documentary where we had the honor to sit down with like 32 of the most famous Current and past bodybuilding champions. Mr. Olympia, Arnold Classic, great people.

We got a chance to really build a bond with them. Turns out they were like, this is not the way to live. And they're all biohacking. All doing things to recover, repair. So there was kind of like little antidotes like that after talking to all of them, seeing what they're doing now to kind of fix and write their wrongs that they did and we're like, that's interesting. And then our son, you know, got hit with mold toxicity. Well, our son was already on the healing path. After I saw the 20 functional medicine doctors,

I was able to put the pieces together. It was the two copies of MTHFR gene mutation and mold in our HVAC system, which we would have never thought Didn't affect us didn't affect our daughter, but it affected him and that's actually when I came across your Instagram feed and I showed Anthony I was like look this guy's talking about what I'm talking about Yeah, so I'm right. And yeah, then finally we chose an herbalist who was super available over text over call at any time. And I said, okay, you're gonna give me the protocol that you're gonna detox my son with, but I'm gonna take your protocol and audit it with the other 20.

And if they all agree on that, because this is my jam, this is my son. His life depends on me and my decision making. Can you believe that? So she said, okay, fine. She gave me the protocol. I took it to the 20 and they were so kind to actually review it and say, yes.

So 10 of them said, go with this woman. So I went with her, six months of herbal detox. The lights went on. So now he's sleeping eight hours. He's communicating bright eye. The dark circles. How old was he at this time? He was 18 months when we started the detox.

18 months? 18 months when we started the detox. So when I discovered everything and we were getting misdiagnosed, it was basically from three months all the way to like nine months. Misery. And this was mold toxicity? This was just mold toxicity. So he got mold in the first three months of his life.

Absolutely. I was told I had mold pregnancy. We were just not informed about that. So therefore, seven days old, he broke out in Jundus. Two months old, he broke out in Exima. Those were telltale signs for me because I come from a country of Armenia and everything is super healthy there. I don't know what Exima is.

These things are not meant for us, right? I'm just thinking like, what is Exima like? I don't believe in it. There has to be something internally. So it was just very eye-opening to go through that whole experience to meet all these different professionals, all in a tri-state area where he had to use some of his political connections

and call the mayor and say, hey, I know this natural path is not seeing anybody, doors are closed, can you get us in, this is for our son? So we literally saw some of the best of the best. Wow. When we put together the pieces of the puzzle it seemed so much simpler than it was. It was so complicated, so dark, there was no guidance. Had we had went with the recommendations that say Langone gave us. NYC Langone. Yeah. Oh my gosh. They said he has restless leg syndrome and they gave us the iron supplement.

Oh my god. Iron liquid poison. Imagine he would have been completely ill right now. Yeah. So you know we are so- But thanks to your work and the algorithms that at least we got a chance to see your work. Yeah. We're like well let's second guess this thing. Someone else is really saying this is not good. Let's see what's going on. You came at the right time. Thank you so much, that's amazing. But still and all, it was very confusing

because it's just you and then who else? So there's a lot of infobesity out there. And so we said, why don't we create a situation where we can interview the best and most vetted and accredited people in this Bubble that we discovered just like we discovered transformation just like we discovered bodybuilding Let's change the algorithm and group everybody together. Yeah, and also heal ourselves at the same time Wow, so we created a documentary and we titled it biohack yourself because she's like I want to biohack myself I always wonder what the impetus was for that because, you know, coming from your background,

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human podcast. And that's what happened to you. Yeah, you're on your way to doing something else. Yeah, you'd had enough. You made a change. And now you're moving this in a different direction. Yeah, tell me about biohack because I'm first of all, I'm a huge fan. I know a lot about it. I want my audience to know about it. I'm going to put links in the show notes below. That's a it's a must watch. I went to the premiere and in in Vegas, but I'm so excited for documentaries

like this to start seeing the light of day because I think for the first time in my adult lifetime, we can go around mainstream media and go directly to the consumer, the consumer has the choice to consume whatever media they choose. And a lot of people are consuming educational media so they can better their lives. Yes. So you put together this idea to launch biohack. I mean, by the way, this thing is a massive, massive project. I don't think people realize when they say,

yeah, I shot a documentary. It wasn't some dude with a camera on his shoulder and an iPhone. I guess it's series production. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We said, let's pull out all the stops. Let's really screen the people by personal referral, invite only. But we said, we want to create a documentary that's different than the ones that exist. The ones that exist currently are mainly

really talking about what's wrong with the system, how we need to get together, and you know, most of the people you see in those documentaries you can't do business with. Or you have to be a stenographer and wait for the credits to find out what that person's name was. When you call them, they're a celebrity.

You can't really... So we said why don't we create a documentary where we're meeting real people and you can get their backgrounds, you can feel comfortable about who they are and we'll lead you to find their podcasts, their Instagrams, their websites. They actually have products and services.

They'll share their pain to passion story. Maybe it's something you can relate with. Well, most of them also have telemedicine and are very available to have clients all over the world. So we actually carefully hand selected the best doctors, best founders, scientists, and experts. So the experts would come and talk about overall what's going on and then we go straight into a solution.

For us, it was very important to give solutions to our audience. Because I was exhausted, I didn't have solutions, and I didn't want to watch documentaries about how bad everything is. I just wanted solutions. So we created this hub, Biohack Yourself, where we interviewed 114 people in the industry. And not only our lives have completely changed now from the understanding of everything from A to Z, right? But also the fact that we made it edutaining. We call it edutaining. So we brought Hollywood to this entire

world during the... I experienced it and I think it's a shield. We said let's make it the Oscars of longevity. Let's put these doctors, these people who are changing lives on the red carpet. So let's change people's algorithm instead of watching, Taylor Swift, for example, right? She's not healing lives out there. She's for entertainment. We're for edutainment. I love that.

Where we can actually save lives. Well, I think when I look at, we did a project in the Middle East and they hired a bunch of McKinsey consultants. And one of the things they did was they did this global analysis of interests looking at search engine optimization, like shares, forwards views, comments, you know, videos that were trending. Basically, the long

and short of it was that if you group these things like biohacking, anti aging and longevity sort of together, whatever you want to call it bio optimization, biohacking, it is the fastest growing area of interest in the world. And it starts in very young age demographics, like 16 and goes all the way into the late 70s. I mean, this isn't like sports, entertainment, country music, you know, these, these areas that have high levels of but very narrow interest. The this is every spectrum. Global.

Yeah, global in every spectrum. And my opinion is that it was really kind of sparked by the pandemic. I don't know what your, I'd love to hear your views on it. Absolutely, I think people resonated with healing at that point because they all felt, I mean, especially with the weight loss documentary that we released during the pandemic,

there was a crop of people who were like, okay, I'm going to get a grip on my health now. And they wanted to see that it was possible. And so I think when you go into this biohacking journey and your algorithms change, you start recognizing that a lot of these people are trending up. Like you're you're every time I see you, you look younger. Yeah. Oh, thank you. Like, you know,

It's the lighting dude. It's the lighting dude. Like you're, every time I see you, you look younger. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, you know. It's the lighting dude, it's the lighting. And when you really do a deep dive, there's a lot of transparency with all the people we've interviewed and featured in our documentaries. These are real people that have had real success with the protocols and no one's perfect. Things change and you're always up to date

with the latest sciences and the latest studies. And you know, but the impact that it's's having so I think the pandemic itself really opened everyone's eyes to question okay this this is not right maybe maybe the elites don't have my best interest at heart and no matter what side of the aisle you're on pro anti-vaccine doesn't matter then you realize that everybody knew somebody whose life was permanently changed by that pandemic. Steve Jobs died from cancer, you have Kate Middleton with all these kids,

so the elites don't have the secret. They don't know how to resolve these things. And so those are the things that are scary because Teresa is like, well, what does so-and-so do? What does this celebrity do? What is that? But this celebrity is dying.

This celebrity is not feeling well. And the ones that are, are seeing people such as yourself. And they're the ones that are completely changing the way they look, the way they feel, the way they perform, business, you know, success leaves clues. Yeah, it really does. So now you've put this amazing documentary together

and you really have done an incredible job. I don't know who was advising you, but I mean, you hand selected just an unbelievable, I'd say every mentor that I've had personally, Dr. Hyman, you know, Dave Asprey, that the the and then so many others, Dr. Amen, you know, these these folks that you were able to get onto this documentary to share their stories. What has been the

byproduct of that? I mean, obviously, shield the next documentary. Yes, yes. How have your lives changed? What's going on in your lives now? What happened was we started promoting the documentary very early on. The buy-in and the collaboration and cooperation from the people we featured, we took a very social media approach, Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, X.

And everyone was sharing the content. We produce shorts and reels, little clips from the doc, so people are already, when is it coming out? Is it out already? What's going on? So it was like this huge demand for wanting to know more. So we started creating like a website that was like a news platform to really inform people about who these people are. Well, we felt the need because a lot of the companies we've interviewed, let's say 10 months prior, they're now coming up with new products.

And there's things that are changing and advancing on a daily. So we said we need to create this platform, biohackyourself.com, which is translated into 51 languages for global audiences to really be on the front lines. One joke we always have, right? I was talking to my cousin in Armenia and she was like, to really be on the front lines. One joke we always have, right? I was talking to my cousin in Armenia, and she was like, oh yeah, well,

JLo and Ben Aff broke up again. I was like, wow, the power of news that translates into third world countries is so powerful. So what if we do that for health? Why is there such an uneven level of information about biohacking and longevity in third world countries and even in the states? It really matters which society you live in,

which bubble you live in, and the information is so vastly unfair. So for us, it was very important to bring that level up because that rises the consciousness. With the right consciousness, we make right choices as humanity. That's so amazing because I think too that there are, and when I built my ultimate human platform, I purposely didn't want to do this, but there are a lot of ultra woke biohackers

that are out there just speaking to other ultra woke biohackers. And I don't have a problem with that. They're very smart people, people that I would consider to be mentors. But they're speaking in a way that, you know, look how intelligent I am, look how much I know. And it's it's to, you know, impress or impact their peer group, but we have to get to the masses. Right? That's my mission is to take the ultra complicated, make it simple and try to feed this to the masses. Because you go out to, you know, middle America, and they don't know what it don't even know what a cold punch is.

They're a cold, methylene blue. I mean, NAD, you know, and by the time you know what NAD and methylene blue are, you're 80% of the way there. You know, just by the fact that you even know what those are. Myocondria, ATP. Yeah, if you know what a mitochondria is, you're in the top two percent. Yeah, when we watch those podcasts, it's like watching a ping pong championship. You don't understand it's fast. it's back and forth, right?

So our main mission was to bring the most incredible experts and really, really dissect the information And we brought our children on board Your kids are amazing, dude Thank you I mean, imagine a 6 and an 8 year old interviewing Dr. Daniel Amen about brain health. Oh yeah, they interviewed me. They interviewed you. You guys had no choice but to simplify everything and make it so intimidating. So that's how we got into the general public because they feel relatable.

You know, we're just regular people. My money, by the way, is on your son. If I can buy stock in him, I feel like he's one of those stocks that you're like, if I could have bought Bitcoin at three cents, because he always, when I walked into the house in Vegas, it was so funny, he's perfectly dressed, he's got the cutest suit on, brand new shoes, and he's, remember it had those like lily pads that you would walk around with the water around it,

and he wanted to put his foot in the water so bad, then your cameraman was like, don't put your foot in the water, don't touch the water, don't touch the water, and he put his foot over, and he put it on the side, and then as soon as the cameraman didn't look, he tapped put your foot in water. Don't touch the water. Don't touch the water. And he put his foot over and he put it on the side. And then as soon as the cameraman didn't look, he tapped his foot in the water. That's the kid I want.

I'll put my money on it. He's amazing. But imagine that's the kid who would have been misdiagnosed, missupplemented, mismedicated, and gone out of the world without the light, without that energetic light. Can you imagine how many kids are being treated like this and how unfair that is? You know I'm all about optimizing performance and lately I've been using the Ion weighted vest during my workouts and it's been a game changer.

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longevity, anti aging, biohacking, treatment options, really what they're doing is almost full circle coming back and empowering the body like PRP is play rich plasma, you know, using your own play this to create healing. And how do we how do we light our own immune system up to turn it on pathogens? How do we activate our detoxification pathways? And, and I get a lot of that from this documentary, like, it's a documentary not about lotions and potions and tricks. It's a documentary about empowering

yourself to take your own health care journey into your own hands for you and your family, which is kind of ironically what you guys did to get to where you launched the biohacking documentary. And the hope is that really no matter where you are in your health journey, there is healing solutions. We've heard some of the incredible healing pain to purpose stories that they were sicker as a child and now at 60 they're thriving with vitality. So just listening to those stories and bringing that to the audience, the hope is incredible, right? Yeah, I mean, we didn't go in this blind. We're very skeptical. We're from New York originally, so New York's are skeptical about everything. And so we went in there with an open mind, but also asked the questions and really by referral only. You mentioned there was a, you know, we had our own version of peer review.

So anytime we casted someone, we went through the board and said, what do you guys think? Do you want to be in a documentary with this person? What do you think about them? And we turned down like a good portion of people that really didn't fit the bill To be involved in this because the other people were just like I don't really believe in what they're saying So if it's coming from that peer group, we respected it. Yeah. Yeah Well now you have this amazing platform this launching pad by the way that you built a true media channel I really want to commend you guys on that It's not just a docu series that you're you've created or documentary like an actual

informative curated repository where people can go and get trusted information from people that have been vetted. So I would encourage everybody to check the show notes below. And go check out their their platform. But now that you're you've been bitten by this bug, which clearly you both have, you know, where does this go? What's the vision look like for you guys? Because now I you know, I just went to you know, we were featured in your shield documentary. And then we went to

the maha ball maha has had a massive presence at the maha ball, which was amazing. By the way, the energy at that place. I mean, when Bobby Kennedy gets confirmed, which is today, but today, it's happening. We were actually watching on the drive. Yeah, watching. Well, they're trying to beat We were actually watching on the drive. We were watching. Well, they're trying to beat them up as normal, as usual. They're trying to beat them up in the confirmation hearings. We've been praying.

We've been praying. We've been pushing all kinds of media. We're really now health press. And so really the industry needs an objective, you know, clear cut voice. Yes. And that's what we're doing now. And so it was an honor to be asked to produce that ball for Bobby and Dell

It was Dell participated in shield and he facetimed Bobby and said I'm right now I'm at this biohack yourself for me and Bobby and the team said we need that kind of energy at the maja ball because these People are on the front lines. Yeah, these people are the voices of maja. These are the moms These are the practitioners and so we the practitioners. And so we had, you know, our reporters are actually health advocates, they're practitioners, they're homey doctors, respected people with their own platforms, their own voices. So they know when they're asking questions, when they're interviewing them,

they're not just some journalists with a beautiful pediatrician there. She interviewed my wife and I, I mean, it was just, it was so, it was so incredibly well done. Well, again, for us, it's to create this Omnimedia approach where it's really accessible to every level of human beings. So we have our magazine, Biohack Yourself magazine,

which is gonna stay at the cutting edge of all developments and again, bring everybody to the same level of understanding and being able to take charge of your own health. You mentioned the pandemic. Pandemic was an incredible eye-opener where people are really taking care of themselves now. Moms across the world, I'm seeing, take responsibility

before pregnancy detoxes, during pregnancy, really looking at it themselves, not just taking some prenatal. So we have our magazine that's going into national distribution. We have our Biohack Yourself media platform, which is online as well as social media. Biohack Yourself media. And this is free for people that are caught. It's free. And now we're doing the news reporting, right? So we're actually being invited to the White House to have a seat there and really breaking news.

So incredible. Health is now at the front seat and everybody is so engaged and so excited. I feel like I'm a girl in the American Girls Store. Yeah, the store, you know, when you go all the dolls, all of the little things, that's what health is looking like. It's really exciting times right now. So exciting. Yeah, very exciting.

We're protective about, you know, who we onboard. That's the main thing now. Once you're enlightened, you, now you're like, okay, this is the solution, now who do I work with? That's the main thing. And we wanna point people in the right direction. Now that you understand this is the way, here are the people that we feel are the best.

And these are people we're working with. Because we built deep, solid relationships with all the practitioners. We're AIMM's clients. Like we're, you know, everyone in the film we love. And the relationships with all the practitioners. Yeah, you really have. We're Aiman's clients. You know, everyone in the film we love. And the change starts with the education. For us, that's how it happened.

You can't unlearn what you've learned. So then just evidently, your life goes that way. Your entire family follows you, your friends, your family. I mean, the effect that you have on the people around you. So that's our goal for the audience. Like the education portion of it is important. And vetted information. That's why we have our peer review group.

We don't bring snake oil salesmen. We don't bring products that don't work. Or CEOs that have incredibly horrible reputation in the industry. You know, we vet everybody. We have our allies all over the industry now implanted. And another thing that we do very special is we combine these bubbles that we've noticed.

So biohacking is its own bubble, right? But then the women's health. Oh my gosh. While we were filming SHIELD, we interviewed 80 experts, 80 incredible experts, women who are still menstruating at 62, women who are just living vital thriving. Why? Tell us the secrets. Because now 80% of women are

struggling with autoimmune conditions. We're at the rock bottom. However, when you hit the rock bottom, there's just up to go. So it's almost the perfect cocktail with the new administration, the Maha movement, and our shield documentary to really shine the light on women's health. Then we're bringing the biological dentistry world, which has its own... Oh my gosh, Dr. Gandhi. Dr. Gandhi. Oh really? He's in it. Oh my God, I love him. But I mean, biological... He's the one that did my... Then we're bringing the biological dentistry world, which has its own Biological dentistry world has its own conferences. It's a whole separate division. And every biological dentist we spoke to, they all want to be a part of this biohacking world.

So by doing this educational documentary on that, we're bringing it full circle. And they're bringing modalities into their practices. Yes. Which is amazing. Yeah, the same modalities that we're using in the biohacking space, they're using to biohack the jaw. I got my root canal taken out. He cleaned it with red light, he ozone into the socket and he packed my own platelet-rich fibrin, the thick fibrin from your platelets. I have no pain.

I had two bad cavitations from two different root canals. And as whatever you want to call it woke as I was, I didn't realize even the connection between, you know, the oral health and this is an oral hygiene. I mean, I'm talking about oral health, everybody brushes their teeth or, you know, hopefully most of you floss. But this is actually those cavitations that come from childhood. Yeah, from childhood canal and wisdom tooth. And you know, it's it

really is amazing to me, because one of the things that I just felt this calling for when I was in the mortality space, was I just had this sense that it was all wrong. And I was like, we keep trying to convince people that disease and pathology are things that are happening to us. But they're actually happening within us. Right? You know, like if you every cancerous cell in the body was at one time a healthy cell was healthy, lung cell became metabolically ill. Why can't something that was healthy that became ill, become healthy again, we just

make these assumptions like, well, it only goes one way, or that all of this myriad of things is going wrong in the same person when really, it's usually one thing that causes everything. And I think you guys have done a really good job at highlighting that. And I really want to encourage people to to check out your platform. So now, this media platform, you're going to be potentially at the White House. I've actually been invited to some of those as well. I think they're and I

talked to Sean Ryan about it this morning, too. And I think that they're really interested in having social media platform. Well, they made an announcement yesterday. The new White House press secretary, who's the youngest ever, said, I'm reserving this front row. She's a ninja that one. I don't care if you're a TikToker, a YouTuber, or this, that, you know, we want to hear you.

We understand that the young, so we have young journalists too. We have Hannah, we call her our Megyn Kelly. She also had- She really had a lot of Megyn Kelly too? Yeah, she's the woman that has interviewed you a few times in some of the and you know, she speaks for her community. She had her own transformational journey. She's there at the at the documentary filming and she's working with some of the

practitioners. And so she understands what the young group of a demographic is wanting and needing and can speak to that community. Hi guys, Gary here. I want to take a few minutes of your time to invite you to my ultimate human VIP community. This is a private community with front row seats to my most advanced health protocols, exclusive monthly Q and a calls, a private podcast where you can ask my guests and me your most pressing questions and my own personal wellness blueprints and everything you need to optimize your health. You'll connect with like minded folks in this community, you'll get firsthand

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Well, I think that I think the current president and I don't think anyone would deny this was elected largely by social media, right? Going around the media and going right to people and big platforms like Joe Rogan and, and other ones. And, you know, some of my close friends, the NELC boys have been on Air Force One, more than most most senators. Yeah. And it just shows that they have a real interest in messaging directly to the people. And one of the reasons why I got on board with this maha movement is because

the excitement surrounding the possibility of being able to affect public policy. That's right. There's only so much your documentary can do my podcast can do my you know, I have two and a half million followers or 2.2 million followers on Instagram there's 371 million people in the United States right it's hard to make a difference unless you come top down and I think that for the first time I'm really very hopeful about this and just the mere fact that folks like yourselves have a seat at the table shows

you that there's some intention to bring this. Yeah, yeah. To the goal. What we're trying to do is create clear transparency from the health organization down. So right now, if you want to get a driver's license, you understand the protocol, you take the test, you have the five hour class, you take the picture, you take the road test, and then you get your, but if you wanted to advocate to get a product out there or make a change that your insurance company might cover, who do you talk to, right? RFK, yes, the Human Health Services,

but who are the players? So we're really taking a, we're calling it health casting. You have sports casting, right? This is the player, this is what they do, this is their job, same thing here. We feel like now we have a shot to really start over and introduce people. Okay, Dr. Oz, what does he do? And how does that? What? How does that

translate to your your life? Yeah, all the time we're like, I'm personally humbled that government actually can affect my life, my children's life, and my husband's life. Well, again, but you're saying in a positive way, in a positive way. Now, in a negative way, they affect it, right? So the pandemic opened that up for me where it all became for me specifically to find that good leader and really support them, which is RFK, what he's doing and what he's done and Del Bigtree. It has been incredible. And they've done it when it was dangerous. they've done it no matter what, for 20 years this man woke up praying

that he be put in a position where he can actually change and make America healthy. And I think he is too. Hopefully by the end of this podcast, we're gonna hear the answer. Yes, right now. That'd be awesome. But I think too that when an industry of any sort,

or and I notice this sometimes with podcast guests that I have, doesn't like to be challenged. That's a red flag for me. You know, when I'm on podcasts or stage talks or interviews, if I say something, you take issue with it, like, you know, I'm not a big believer in folic acid, for example, I don't think that we should be fortifying or enriching our food supply. And but but I can give you the whole rationale for that. I'm not just dogmatic

about it and say this is how it is. I noticed that when we push on these industries, food, pharma, corruption in our in our nutritional research and some of our public policy institutions, you know, they get very offended, and very nasty. One of the things that I love about RFK's approach is that he says, I'm not anti-vaccine, I'm not anti-pharmaceutical. My life was saved by them, and at some point, mine was too.

I severed my radial artery. Hadn't been for the docs in the emergency room, I wouldn't be having this podcast. So I'm a big believer in that. But when you just ask simple questions like, hey, have these been put through the same level of rigorous testing as other things have been put through? You're asking us to put it in children

at a very early stage of life. Can we just see that it's been thoroughly tested? That's all. When you start to get pushed back on things like that, that's when the red flags fly. I look at it like this. Look, I don't care if you smoke a cigarette, that's your business, but the public should know cigarettes are bad for you. Right, right. That's what he's saying.

Yeah, we're not talking about impending freedoms and saying, you can't drink soda, you can't vape, you can't smoke, you can't... We just need to know the consequences and people can make a conscious decision. There's something in medicine called informed consent. And informed consent is you don't have to explain it in a way that a patient could conduct the procedure, but you have to explain it in a way that they can weigh the risks. Listen, we're gonna put this into your child.

Here's what the evidence says, but here are the risks. Because I find that a lot of things we do in medicine, we are trying to stop a basically something that has virtually a zero risk, right? Like if you look at the chances of an infant catching hepatitis B, for example, before their pubescent to your even teenage years are virtually zero, they have a higher chance of dying in a motor vehicle accident on the way to school. So everything has a risk, right? And,

and so but we're not going to put them not put them in the car to go to school. So when you explain it to a mother like that, they're like, wait a second, I, I thought this was something that you know, he could get in a kindergarten classroom. Yeah, there's actually no chance. In fact, in kindergarten classroom, they had a mandatory class of explaining how HIV is transmitted. Yeah.

I mean, the way I look at it. I want to bang this on my head. I think the combination of Trump with RFK, Trump is a business person. He understands the mechanics of business and what makes the world go round. And I think that there are companies and industries that are sick profiteers. And I think if you just want to be in the profiteer world, you can make money by providing healthy solutions

because there's a bigger market that people will run for healthier options. It's out there. It's evident, right? People voted with their dollars. A lot of people voted for Trump because it came with an RFK health movement. And so if you can shift your mindset, look, you're a good business person. It's kind of like taking Pablo Escobar. Had he not focused on that aspect,

then who's a great businessman? He could have done a lot more in the legitimate world. So there's legitimate ways that you can profit because there's a huge marketplace. I mean, perfect example is Germany. And I hear so many great things about Germany, how they run their healthcare system, right? Because government doesn't pay for sick care system.

So they're on the front end of homeopathic healing and biohacking discoveries. Have you been in Germany? Mm-hmm. Yeah. They don't profitize.. I mean they don't privatize profits and socialize the expense like we do here. I mean we have to understand that we actually have an industry that relies on chronic disease. And it's hard for people to understand that we've actually built a profit center around chronic disease when really we should try to extinguish chronic disease and it should be the

least profit we make but it's one of the most profitable industries so it begs a question well if the most profitable thing in the life cycle of a human is a sick child the system is broken yes and needs to be fixed so we talked a little bit about the documentaries and and where the platform is going and in a perfect world. What would this platform represent for you guys? What were my my listeners that want to follow you or get involved, get information here? I mean, what are you going to serve up to the public in the next few years?

Well, biohack yourself is medical freedom, is what we call it. Oh, I love that word. It's really medical freedom. It's liberation. It's really a platform where you can take charge of your health with some of the most incredibly inexpensive methods and modalities, some of the natural modalities that we highlight

in our documentaries. Later on, we write about them. We are very, very efficient with know, efficient with pushing the free modalities. And now with biohacking world growing so rapidly, almost every modality is becoming less and less expensive. I mean, there's hyperbaric chambers, high quality, good quality, almost five times less the cost, right, than it was like five years ago. So it's becoming more and more affordable and that's gonna be the way of life. There's no doubt about it. People just needed an outlet to go to to really educate

themselves. People like you are doing an incredible job and we're here to aid and join the forces because only together we can heal and make Maha happen. Yeah, and honestly we want to really introduce breakout brands. Similar to what Rolling Stone did. Here's a new artist, here's a new sound well here's a new modality here's a new practitioner here's a new voice here's a new podcast so we want to be on the front lines of breaking that kind of news. Can I tell you two things that blew my mind? Yeah. Mitochondria transplant I'm sure you haven't heard about that. No I haven't. That's a new thing they're doing experiments with that in Mexico

mitochondria transplant. I've heard of fecal transplant. We heard that was like crazy mind-blowing. Then it's mitochondria transplant. And now the new thing that we found out is biohacking your eyesight and biohacking your vision. The fact that your eyes are a portion of your brain and the fact that your brain development is dependent on your eyesight and your vision blew our minds. We interviewed somebody incredible and we can't wait to bring him to the forefront and help him open up clinics all over the US. Wow. Yeah, he uses AI, he uses technology to really retrain your brain. So you can

actually retrain your brain to see better and then you can retrain your eyesight to get brain development. Yeah. It's like chicken or the egg, both ways. That is incredible. I would imagine that this mitochondrial transplant, there's some experiments where they actually took young mice, blood from young mice, infuse it into older mice and the older mice got younger and the younger mice actually got older by switching their plasma. It was the impetus for Brian Johnson to change plasma with his son. Right. And it's controversial as that is.

I mean, I have no issues with it. But I've got to go down the rabbit hole of this mitochondrial transplant because mitochondria are we've got 110 trillion of these in our body. Yes. We're 10% of our body weight is mitochondria. And my belief and a lot of others in the scientific community believe that aging is essentially the progressive decline in mitochondrial function. You can bank your mitochondria too.

Well, we're having a great talk on this part. We just discovered this a month ago. How dare you come on The Ultimate Human and teach me something I didn't know. I was just taught about that by someone else on the cast. This is why we go deep. We find the best experts. Because they're doing things behind closed doors that you know the most famous biohackers don't even know. They're excited but they're doing the work behind closed doors. It's not really...

Such a blessing because I wake up every day with this childlike curiosity and I'm so excited to be like... I was excited for this interview. I'm even more excited about it Because of things like this like what better thing to spend your time being curious about it You know actually curious about than just how do you live the healthiest happiest longest life? It's just you know Dr. Mark Gordon who's in biohack yourself? He was just on Joe Rogan for the sixth time for the sixth time while he mentioned his appearance in biohack yourself he mentioned myself and Teresa and everything that we're And he mentioned his appearance in Biohack yourself, he mentioned myself and Teresa, and everything that we're doing. He mentioned the platform.

And we received phone calls from top, top research institutes and universities who are like, hey, we want our researchers to be contributors to your platform. We want our word out. We want the messaging out. We're the ones in the laboratory creating the science and we wanna be able to speak to the community now. Whereas before they were kind of like shying away,

pseudo science, they're like no this is where the eyeballs are. We want to be able to communicate what we're finding, our discoveries, and also the donors and benefactors want that kind of you know visibility as well. Yeah because usually the donor is donating because it was something that happened to them or a loved one that dramatically impacted their life and now they've given millions or tens of millions of dollars endowments to these projects. Obviously they're doing it to help humanity

because they didn't want what happened to their loved one to happen to somebody else. I can tell you one thing, biohacking in this entire world of longevity is not only gonna save lives and heal people, but it's going to save a lot of marriages. Because we've been biohacking together as a family, we understand each other's health, each other's mood or each other's behaviors. And we just dig in, right?

Oh, maybe your thyroid is low. That's why this happened. Literally. That's why you're an asshole today. That's why you're an asshole. You know, even our son, our son understands periods and mood swings and he's only six. And he tells his sister, our daughter, Love, he's like, Love, when you get your period, I'm gonna be more forgiving. And these are conversations we're having. Oh my God, that's the cutest thing I've ever heard. So biohacking as a family, right?

That's like a lot of families fall apart because they're growing apart into different industries, different careers, different lives. But this can be that one thing that anchors your family together from kids to spouses to mother-in-laws to aunts. I mean, imagine you're having a biohacking Christmas party with your family. Everyone can gather around a good Thanksgiving dinner and a good biohacking dinner. Yeah, trust me, you saw my place.

It's just a giant biohacking lounge. That's it, that's it. I love it. I was in the sauna till 11 o'clock last night with my son and my youngest, my daughter's a nurse, my middle son is a super happy. It brings you guys together, right? It brings us all together.

And then when we meet, we always talk about those kinds of things. Like, you know, the food that we're eating supplements we're taking, you know, you know, my daughter will be like, Look at this, Dad, I went to see this patient today. And this is what they had in her cabinet. And this is the condition they're suffering from. It's, it's just so awesome to be on this journey with absolutely no more trauma

bond health bond. Yes, that's really well, guys. This is amazing. First of all, and we're going to take a few minutes and go go into my private VIP community because I told them you were coming on on and I always allow them to ask questions of my guests. So if you're interested in becoming an ultimate human VIP, you can click the link in the show notes below and become one of my ultimate human VIPs and you'll get to ask questions directly to our guests. But otherwise I end all my podcasts by asking

my guests the same question. So there's no right or wrong answer to this question. But what does it mean to you, each of you to be an ultimate human? Ultimate human to me is having it all, whatever that means to me, to me, my biohacking starts with my pen and paper. It's been this way for the past 20 years. I start writing whether it's emotional biohacking that I need to do, it's biological biohacking that I need to do, it's what I write on that paper and what I feel, what it is to me at that point in

my life to have it all. So if at that time it means having a happy family, happy kids, my kids doing health journalism or whatever, right? That year's goals, that's being ultimate human at that time. And that's always changing, at least for me. For me, it's reverse engineering. So what the 100 year old Anthony would thank the 47 year old Anthony for the decisions that I'm making right now. That's really what I feel the ultimate human would be.

And so there's a movie called Back to the Future. It impacted me because Biff goes back in a time machine, advises his younger self to do all the with the sports almanac and changes the trajectory of his financial life. I feel like I can see into the future and really make decisions now that will impact me in the future and my sphere of influence around me, my family, obviously. That's amazing. Yeah.

Well, those are great answers, guys. So stick around. We're going to go into my ultimate human VIP community and for the rest of you guys until next time. That's just science.