The Ultimate Human with Gary Brecka - 17. Dr. Jigar Gandhi, Biologic Dentist | The Link Between Dental Bacteria, Meridian Pathways, and Your Overall Health

Episode Date: December 12, 2023

Contact Dr.Gandhi and Shore Smiles Dental (516)321-4717 https://www.shoresmilesdentalny.com/biological-dentistry https://toothandbody.com - to explore the interactive meridian pathway Join our FREE ...3 Day Water Fast: https://fast.garybrecka.com/go-1 Get weekly tips from Gary Brecka on how to optimize your health and lifestyle routines - go to https://www.theultimatehuman.com/ For more info on Gary, please click here: https://linktr.ee/thegarybrecka ECHO GO PLUS HYDROGEN WATER BOTTLE https://echoh2o.com/?oid=19&affid=236 BODY HEALTH - USE CODE ULTIMATE10 for 10% OFF YOUR ORDER https://bodyhealth.com/ultimate Today’s conversation will change your life, and could possibly even save your life. Gary and his wife Sage traveled to Long Island to interview their friend and amazing biologic dentist, Dr. Jigar Gandhi.  So many people chalk up dental and health issues to aging when that just simply isn’t the case. Listen in as we educate about the link between periodontal disease, inflammation, gum disease, and all kinds of cardiovascular disease and neurodegenerative disorders. Gary and Dr. Gandhi talk about how the same bacteria that is found in gums and the jaw bone are found in the heart through the blood supply. As someone who is very woke to wellness himself, Gary shares his experience of getting dental work done with Dr. Gandhi and how he had no idea that issues going on in his mouth could be connected to symptoms in other parts of his body. Dr. Gandhi was able to pinpoint specific pain and issues in Gary’s left shoulder, lung, and toe that were linked to a tooth that needed to be removed.  01:45 Biological dentistry and its connection to overall health.  07:30 Gary’s dental issue that was causing symptoms in other parts of the body. 10:00 How is dental work linked to neurodegenerative disorders? 16:15 The importance of proper blood flow for dental procedures. 19:00 Finding the mystery cause of the issues Sage’s sister was having with her kidneys. 22:00 What inspired you to get into Biologic Dentistry? 24:15 The link between dental bacteria to metabolic syndrome. 26:15 What causes bacteria and parasites to pool in the jawline? 32:30 How to detect if you have bacteria and parasites in your jaw from previous dental work. 34:15 What does it mean if a tooth is black? 40:30 Fluoride and its potential effects on health.  43:40 Are “soft teeth” hereditary? 46:00 What is the pain level and healing like from getting biologic dentistry work done? 50:00 Oral health and detoxification.  Journal Articles Referenced https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6097266/ https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.106.685230 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34579810/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36726625/ https://www.mdpi.com/2076-2607/11/7/1832 Follow Dr. Gandhi: @smilesbydrg Gary Brecka: @garybrecka The Ultimate Human: @ultimatehumanpod Subscribe on YouTube: @ultimatehumanpodcast Disclaimer: The Ultimate Human with Gary Brecka Podcast is for general informational purposes only and does not constitute the practice of medicine, nursing or other professional health care services, including the giving of medical advice, and no doctor/patient relationship is formed. The use of information on this podcast or materials linked from this podcast is at the user’s own risk. The content of this podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical condition they may have and should seek the assistance of their health care professionals for any such conditions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Dentistry is doing the most harm out of any medical profession. It's like, here you go, opioids. What is biologic dentistry? Because it absolutely blew my mind. Each tooth is alive. It's a living organ. Any disease in the mouth can correlate to the rest of the body. You're taking a look at the whole body, not just the oral cavity.
Starting point is 00:00:15 We can help people live a lot longer. How quickly can we help a patient heal? We're getting them off of meds. That's a passion of mine. If you're having symptoms, question it. Hey guys, welcome back to the Ultimate Human Podcast. I'm your host, human biologist Gary Brekka. I'm here today in Long Island, New York with Dr. Jigar Gandhi, a very close friend of mine and an amazing biologic dentist out of the Stony Brook Dental School of Medicine. I came all the way up here to Long Island today with my wife, Sage, because the topic
Starting point is 00:00:56 we're going to discuss today, I don't want to sound dramatic, but may very well change your life and it could in fact save your life. There are so many people right now that are unaware of the link between periodontal disease, inflammation, gum disease, bacteria in the gum, parasites in the gum, dental work, and all kinds of ailments like cardiovascular disease and neurodegenerative disorders and all kinds of symptomology that you may be suffering from that you're chalking up to a consequence of aging that is not a consequence of aging at all. It's a consequence of pathologies that may be going on inside your mouth.
Starting point is 00:01:34 And I'm not just talking about oral hygiene, brushing, flushing, tongue scraping, those sorts of things. I am actually talking about old root canals and dental work that you've had done that may actually be contributing to disease, to pathology, to cardiovascular condition, to neurodegenerative disorders, to all kinds of things going on in your life or the life of a loved one. So you're going to want to tune in today because we're going to take a deep dive into everything that is linked between your oral hygiene and your oral health and the health and longevity of the biome. So I really want to welcome Dr. Jigar Gandhi to the podcast today,
Starting point is 00:02:12 a close friend of mine. He's actually done some dental work on me, and I'm really, really excited to be here today and take a deep dive into biologic dentistry. Thank you, man. Pleasure to be here. Yeah. So tell me, gandhi um you know everybody knows what a dentist is correct um but give me a little background on you know what is biologic dentistry and and what is the difference between that and standard you know dental practice
Starting point is 00:02:35 and how did you get started down the road of being a biologist yeah so as when you practice biological dentistry you're taking a whole systemic approach you're taking a look at the whole body not just the oral cavity you know we're taking a look at the whole body, not just the oral cavity. You know, we're trained to look at the oral cavity day in, day out. That's our training. But when patients are coming with diseases, we need to work hand in hand with a medical doctor, physician, whoever it is, to figure out what actually is going on, right? And there's a lot of linkage, and it's all in the literature now, that any disease in the mouth can correlate to the rest of the body. Well, I was actually just reading a study the other day
Starting point is 00:03:09 that they're finding the exact same bacteria in gums and the jawbone and in poorly executed dental work that they find in cardiovascular disease. The same bacteria is actually found in the heart that's in the mouth. Oh, 100%. Yeah, so you hit it right on the money there where it's one blood supply right the blood supply that's in your bone in your jawbone each tooth is alive it's a living organ nerve artery and a vein and lymphatic system right so when you have 32 of them and if something's going bad that blood is going to transfer to the rest of your body all 60 000 miles of blood supply right right so it's going around
Starting point is 00:03:45 you know i always kind of found it fascinating that dental medicine you know um and dental physicians are the only area of medicine that i'm aware of the only practice of medicine that thinks that it's okay to leave dead tissue in the body correct and that's that's a big problem right so when you leave something dead like anywhere if your toe had gangrene on it, right? So when you're leaving something dead, it turns gangrene, right? Right. So if it was your toe, what are you going to do?
Starting point is 00:04:10 Chop it off. Right. Your finger, chop it off. Elbow, chop it off. Pendicitis. Chop it off. Take it out, right? Remove it.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Or liver, part of the liver, they cut it out, right? But yet we're leaving all this stuff in the jawbone. So we have to differentiate between pain and pathogens right yes we get rid of the pain the acute symptoms but what happens in a chronic state now we just got a pool of bacteria pathogen viruses fungus uh parasites that are pooling in the jawbone now right and you know i I've been on this journey with you. Correct. And I would consider myself fairly woke to wellness.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Yes, you are. I'm very in tune with my body. I try to watch what I eat. I try to watch what I drink. You know, I do all kinds of biohacking tricks. You know, I use red light therapy, PEMF, sun exposure, breath work, cold plunging. Which I appreciate you doing that because that's actually got me on one of my journeys too. Did it? All right, great.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Yeah, so we met in 2018, and that's what got me on my journey. I started using everything that you're doing. Right. And then wanted to seek out something else, and more and more. But what was fascinating to me was my lack of correlation between symptoms I was having
Starting point is 00:05:24 and what was going on in my, in my oral cavity. And to be very specific, I remember calling you and telling you that I had a cracked tooth. Yeah. And, um, then I just been putting it off and putting it off and putting it off because, I mean, for those of you guys that are listening that do not like to have dental work, nobody dislikes dental work more than I do. I think I have a childhood fear of it. I don't have any fear of surgeries or of IVs or giving myself injections or anything like that, but I have an absolute phobia of the dentist. And I had this crack and I just let it go and let it go. And I actually started to notice that the tooth was beginning to change color. So I called Dr. Gandhi
Starting point is 00:06:02 and I was like, listen, man, I've got this cracked tooth. I don't want to get it removed. I really want you to tell me that it's fine, but, um, you know, it's starting to change color. And he's like, you got to get up to see me and you got to take it out. And, um, he said, what tooth was it? And I explained where the location of this tooth in my mouth. And I'll never forget, you sent me this chart and it was a meridian chart. And I'm going to put this up on the podcast or put a link to it on the podcast because I think it's really important for those of you that have had dental work done that you look at this chart
Starting point is 00:06:29 because it absolutely blew my mind because I looked at the tooth that in my case was infected and it was tooth number 19. Correct. And as soon as I told you the location of the tooth, you asked me three questions and I stopped dead in my tracks when you said this to me, because I had this eureka moment,
Starting point is 00:06:50 like a Perry Mason movie, like, you know? And you said, do you ever get, you know, left shoulder pain? And I was like, well, you know what, as a matter of fact, I do. I get my left shoulder aches when I'm working out, but I always just thought that it was just a little bit of overuse. And then you said, do you ever get left lower lobe pain in your lung? And I started thinking about it. I said, you know, as a matter of fact, when I actually do my sprints on the treadmill, I do that hypermax sprint on the treadmill, I get this catch in the lower side of my diaphragm. And I thought it was just a runner's cramp. And then you asked me if my toe
Starting point is 00:07:26 ever itched or went numb and i was like that is the craziest question a dentist can ask you yeah but i was like as a matter of fact i have this weird thing where my left toe will sometimes go numb and i would tap my foot on the ground once in a while i would actually take my shoe off and i would itch my toes weirdest thing you had no idea what was going on yeah and i would literally take my shoe off and i would itch the bottom of my big toe and i put my shoe back on and and so i had all three of these things and then you sent me the chart and i looked at molar number 19 and it went boom left shoulder pain left lower lobe pain left toe pain and i'm not saying that the people listening are
Starting point is 00:08:03 experiencing that but if you're having any kind of the strain symptomology and you look at the meridian for the tooth that correlates to it, very often it explains it. Correct. So when you sent me the photo, because I asked you to send me a photo, right? And you sent me a photo. You had no swelling inside your mouth
Starting point is 00:08:19 that you can visibly see. Or pain. Or pain. No ear pain, because usually lower left molar is going to give you ear pain, because usually lower left molar is gonna give you ear pain, because that's where the nerve, the inferior alveolar nerve radiates behind, innervates, goes right behind your ear.
Starting point is 00:08:31 So you would have felt it there, and you would have felt when you lay down, you get back up, the hydraulic pressure, you would have said, this is aching. Then you would have been like, okay, let me do something. But you were in a chronic state, and even though you're super healthy, super fit and everything, but this was throwing you off
Starting point is 00:08:45 it was putting you into too much of a sympathetic overdrive right and how long did you notice that for you know i dealt with it for for months i don't remember the exact onset of it because it was just nagging it like wasn't enough for me to say i've got to go get this checked out right and that's that's what happens to most people we just deal with it and and again as woke as i am to wellness and in tune tune with my body and you know trying to take the best care of myself i never correlated those things ever to something going on so why don't more dentists correlate things like i'd never heard of well i guess i'd heard of meridians but that blew us but the tooth meridians, the tooth piece just blew me away. Education, right?
Starting point is 00:09:26 You graduate dental school. I graduated in 2009, did an intense residency for two years. It was just hardcore training day after day, right? But then you're tired. You go to some CE credits just on subjects. Are you really going to study? Or you have some dentists who are curious want to know why there's disease like why is why is people's health getting worse
Starting point is 00:09:49 I've done tens of thousands of surgeries and seeing patients like why the patient's sick you start questioning it and you start questioning what you actually did on patients you're like wait what was I doing and then you seek out the world's best doctors and knowledgeable in this. And it's stuff that's been, it's out there. The literature is out there. The science is out there, but it's, do you believe in it? Do you want to take that step and actually go that road? And it's very hard to talk to other dentists and other colleagues like, Hey, there's something else out there. You know, we can actually be causing harm causing harm it's like do no harm is our first the hippocratic oath right right it's
Starting point is 00:10:29 do no harm but it's actually when you look at it we're actually doing dentistry is doing the most harm out of any medical profession out leading dead tissue in the body yeah i mean you just got to wrap your arms around that there's actually dead tissue in the body and it doesn't have a blood supply and what are bacteria like they like dark moist oxygen deprived places anaerobic bacteria that the immune system can't get to and i want to talk specifically about a study that was just published in in july of 2023 so this is only about three months old it was published in the um journal of microorganisms but it was a longitudinal study that investigated the association between periodontal disease and neuroinflammatory disorders. And neuroinflammatory disorders are Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, dementia,
Starting point is 00:11:11 all kinds of conditions in the body that are related to inflammation that eventually begins to affect nerves. Yes. And we don't correlate dental hygiene or dental pathologies to Parkinson's, to early onset Alzheimer's or dementia. And even before these conditions exist, memory and cognitive decline, exhaustion, fatigue, weight gain, water retention. And what I found really fascinating was that out of the 24 studies they examined, 20 of them showed a positive correlation between periodontal disease and neurodegenerative disorders with the studies focusing on cognitive function
Starting point is 00:11:49 demonstrating the most robust effect. So these are all the things that are robbing people of their short-term recall, their cognitive function, their waking energy, that they may be chalking up to a consequence of aging, that may actually be a consequence of something going on in their jaw from dental work that they've had done that they've left unaddressed. Correct.
Starting point is 00:12:12 And one of those bacteria there, the Treponema denticolae is proven- Yes, the Treponema denticolae. Yeah, that's me. Sorry to get, sorry. No, do it for me. It's one of the five bacteria. Let's just keep it simple.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Yeah, one of the five bacteria. No, don't keep it simple. That's known for beta amyloid, producing beta amyloid, which we know is for Alzheimer's. Right. Right? So when it all starts here, if we can actually control it, and it sometimes goes more in depth than doing a regular cleaning.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Sometimes we have to use lasers. Sometimes we use ozone gas. Sometimes we'll put some medication in the pockets, what we call the periodontal pockets. Right. But if we can cure that, it doesn't mean like every tooth needs to come out right but if we can hold on to the teeth and we have ways much better than ever before much better than when i graduated to keep your teeth the teeth yeah we graduated i graduated in 2009 stuff then was archaic but the thing is you pulled everything out you pulled everything out or you did these extensive surgeries but you weren't annihilating the bacteria now we have lasers that go into the
Starting point is 00:13:09 socket and it's minimally invasive pain-free patients can go back to work the same day or the next day and technology has progressed so much and that's a big thing if we keep on with this technology we can help people live a lot longer yeah if someone already has alzheimer's or dementia yeah do you think that that could be something that could start to i would 100 get a 3d cone beam scan 3d dental can or uh um a scan or we call it cbct scan and to see what dental work they had done gotcha right yeah absolutely 100 because is that dental work ages this doesn't spontaneously go away correct and Correct. And this is one of the things that I'll put some of the images up for this podcast for those of you that are actually not just listening, but you're on one of the platforms like Spotify where you can actually see some images. It's pretty gnarly, but it's such an important topic to me because I had such a life-changing experience with it. My 48 hours after you got that tooth out and you cleaned it,
Starting point is 00:14:05 and I want to talk about the procedure that we had done, because you didn't just pull the tooth. You actually put red light laser down into the socket. You put ozone gas into the socket. You cleaned out the bone and then you drew my own blood, spun it down. Correct. And created something called platelet-rich fibrin. Yes. And you actually packed my jaw, that socket, that hole that you made with my own platelets,
Starting point is 00:14:28 which a lot of people that are listening to this have heard of platelet-rich plasma or PRP injections. They use them in repetitive use injuries, knees, hips, shoulders, rotator cuff. They actually use it in cosmetic procedures to enhance the vitality of the skin, taking your own blood, spinning it down, isolating the platelets, putting it back in your face.
Starting point is 00:14:46 But I'd never actually heard of it being used and turned into platelet-rich fibrin for dental work. And so what I did was I documented the entire thing. I'm going to show the entire surgical procedure. Today, he's going to be putting a post in my jaw. A ceramic post. A ceramic post, not a ceramic post not a metal post i actually had all the metal fillings taken out years ago but um and i think a lot of people have
Starting point is 00:15:10 caught on to that trend of getting the metal out of your mouth yeah but is anyone still putting metal in there are some the european union actually banned it right did the u.s yeah the u.s is so much better yeah the u.s is still a little bit behind but i think we're always banned hopefully we progress to that yeah like gmo there's so many studies that show how horrible it is that's why everybody's getting them out right correct their study after study showing it so why would they why would someone still you know the other part is taking them out it's also toxic right so you have to make sure you follow the right protocols to take them out you can't because the particles that the little particles that are going to go up if there's a make sure you're following the right protocols to take them out. You can't, because the particles that, the little particles that are going to go up, if there's a little, if you use too much water.
Starting point is 00:15:48 And you're vaporizing them, right? Vaporizing. You want the patient breathing some oxygen while you're doing it. You want to isolate the tooth. You need extra suctions in there. It's a whole different protocol when we're cleaning them out. I've seen the setup that you do to take old fillings out. I mean, and it's pretty wild.
Starting point is 00:16:03 And you have an entire um plastic apparatus in there um or latex apparatus yeah it latex but it is yeah you're 100 all right it's a whole apparatus we're using yeah to just to keep to keep them from inhalating you know any of that gas or or swallowing any of it it's for patient safety staff safety my safety too you know it's because we're doing it constantly i want to protect myself from those fumes because at the end of the day it is metal toxicity right whether you want to say it's whatever mercury or not or whatever nickel palladium whatever art of whatever metals are in there at the end of the day it's metal toxicity right it's gonna happen hey guys
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Starting point is 00:17:33 and get my free newsletter, theultimatehuman.com. I promise you that information will help change the trajectory of your life. And now back to the Ultimate Human Podcast. So being a biologic dentist, you have more of a passion and your practice is more centered around restoring what was naturally there. Back to homeostasis. Okay, back to homeostasis. And I will say I've had a lot of dental work done
Starting point is 00:18:00 and I hate having dental work done. Did I emphasize that enough? I think I have a picture of you being nervous. I'm kidding. I didn't take the photo. Was he a big baby? He was nervous. But he was fine. After I got started, he was fine. Well, because the whole time I was actually watching
Starting point is 00:18:16 the surgery. He was watching the surgery. As you explain things to him, he probably understood it better and got excited about it because then he nerds out on it. Yes. Oh, I've been way down the road now. he came back like a little kid going oh my god all these you know he was so excited about all things oh 100 i mean if we elaborate on the whole procedure on that that process i remember spending 45 minutes the tooth was out in less than 30 seconds like your tooth was out but i spent over 45 minutes cleaning the socket
Starting point is 00:18:45 because there's so much scar tissue inside. There's a ligament that we need to clean out. We need to help re-energize the area. That's where we're using the laser. At a specific wavelength, we use a laser. So that's a red light laser, right? We use a green light laser there. It's an erbium laser at that time.
Starting point is 00:19:00 The red light laser was at the end to help you heal. I remember that one. What does the green do? The green, it helps energize the area. So we use what we call a piezo machine first. That helps clean the bone. And the thing is, whenever there's a tooth that's going bad inside, it's just not, you just take it out. It's not like taking a flagpole to the ground. The problem is the bone has pores in it. It's infiltrated inside those pores. So we need to get every single little piece out. And bacteria is microscopic, so you don't see it.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Even though we use loops that are high magnification, you're not going to see the bacteria there. But we're cleaning everything out as much as possible. So you use the green laser first. We use the piezo first. The piezo first. Piezo first to clean out the walls. Then we use the laser to re-energize the area. Then I went to the ozone to basically oxygenate the area,
Starting point is 00:19:49 kill anything that shouldn't be there. And that was wild because I was watching on the screen. So you took the tooth out and ironically it didn't bleed. And I thought, well, that's a good sign. And you said, no, that's a terrible sign that there's no blood flow to that area. Just, sorry to cut you off there. And I use plain anesthetic. There was no epinephrine in the anesthetic okay so because because in dentistry we use one in 100,000 or one in 200,000 epinephrine that helps constrict the
Starting point is 00:20:16 vessels because the vessels in the mouth are very tiny they're like the capillaries in your fingers they're very tiny but if i use something with epinephrine it would have not bled at all so So I made sure I use plain anesthetic when I do a procedure like this for you. Because you wanted to bleed. I wanted to bleed. So you explained that to me, so you said, I really want to see that bright red blood kind of flowing out of that area, I actually want to restore the blood flow to that area, because if you don't get blood flow to that area,
Starting point is 00:20:41 the immune system can't get there and kill pathogens, you can't get inflammation out, you can't get any inflammatories in um and that's part of what led to the shoulder issue correct on the toe yes yeah i mean i've been way down the nerve pathways and everything i mean some of the images of of the amount of neuronal innovation insane brain to the jaw is just mind numbing you were actually able to even talk with my sister who had a go-kart accident when we were kids yes because she was nine years old and didn't know how to drive a go-kart so she crashed it right straight into i did ask her what happened i was like oh yeah bring you back child memories i don't know i drove that thing for years and i was fine never crashed it once but
Starting point is 00:21:21 my sister got in there and just smashed it to smithereens. But the fiberglass hit her jaw, and she just smashed her jaw. All these teeth came out, and she's had issues with her mouth for years. Correct. And we knew that part of it. The part that she didn't recognize is that then later in life, she started to have major kidney issues. Yes. And we don't have kidney problems in my family so it was always like this mystery why she was having such bad kidney problems in college
Starting point is 00:21:50 especially and it was literally the first thing that you brought up to her she started crying about it she didn't tell me that portion yeah yeah no you blew her mind i think because now she has hope yes there is a solution here and that's the thing that you saw you you brought up genetics right not everything's genetic it's our environment the oral cavity each tooth is its own individual environment and the whole mouth is an environment right so that was the biggest thing is like you definitely have issues there and like we got it and she sent the x-rays the x-rays look great like it's like okay you can do conventional dentistry there but is that going to solve everything else for her no then she'll you know 10-15 years later she probably need dialysis and you go down that path it's like
Starting point is 00:22:33 how long can we keep the human body without artificial joints or medicine right right that's the whole purpose what was amazing was that he brought it up to her yeah right i mean she did not again didn't she didn't tell me anything about any of that right you don't and and we don't correlate a lot of these things going on in the mouth that's why i think it's so important i can't wait to release this podcast and i can't wait to release the full document yeah documentary on the on on the surgery because i just think it's so important for people to understand that these issues that they or loved ones are facing in their life
Starting point is 00:23:05 may actually have a fix, a cure, a cause that can be remediated. Let's go back to your symptoms, those three symptoms. When I was working on you, and we recorded that too, you felt a jolt of energy. I did, yes. You felt a jolt. I really did.
Starting point is 00:23:22 It was wild. And I also remember very specifically when you had the ozone in that socket, it went from, you know, pink gums and the exposed bone that wasn't bleeding to just all this blood flow started to flood the area. Fresh red. And you were like, that's exactly what we were after. And I have to say, I mean, it was a 2 out of 10 on the pain scale. Good.
Starting point is 00:23:43 So, you know, if you're thinking about having biologic dentistry done, and I would highly recommend that you do. And if you have any of the symptoms that we talk about on the podcast today, find a biologic dentist in your area. You can probably Google biologic dentist. Yes, absolutely. And find a biologic dentist in your area that can do this kind of work because it very well could reverse or completely alter these symptoms and literally might even save your life.
Starting point is 00:24:08 What made you get into this form of dentistry? It's around when I met you guys too. Then we can take full credit for it. A hundred percent. He's given us 15% of the back. There we go. Done. We'll negotiate that after.
Starting point is 00:24:22 Carol did some dental work on her before she had metal fillings they turned into root canals did those root canals back when i in 2014 2013 2012 and 2013 those years and i never i never experienced a migraine in my life so i'm blessed on that portion but she would experience migraines and migraines would be after the dental work yeah well i didn't correlate at that time right she would just experience migraines and we've been together since 2011 and 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 she had these migraines insane migraines wow and i was like okay she's like there has to be something related i had buddies check out the the dental work i did they said everything's fine because i just questioned myself i'm like hey they said the roots are fine the nerves are fine everything's good the two teeth you worked on teeth are dead
Starting point is 00:25:12 everything's okay like okay good teeth are dead there we go she said you know but she's like you're taking them out i'm like what do you mean and she's like no you take them out i mean they said they're fine she's like no i'm like i told my buddies they're like i was like you're not married her i'm taking them out i took them out migraines gone completely really and the protocols have changed since then like you know dentistry has gone a long way like i use some of the protocols but now the ones i use on you like almost 30 steps or 40 like almost close to 30 to 40 steps literally i use on you right and migraines went away and then she's like you're not uh putting metal in my mouth like okay so i went down that rabbit hole like what else is out there and that's when i started emailing these guys over the world i'm
Starting point is 00:25:54 like hey what what are you guys doing that's different ceramic ceramic yeah so the zirconium dioxide that we use so we use a zirconium implant on you right so it's non-metal it's inert and it just blends with the gums and the bones so well and it's mind-boggling i've done tens of thousands of titanium implants and now going this road and seeing how the patient changes how the bone reacts how the gums react there's no inflammation right inflammation is every disease like you know it's like you look at diabetes it's inflammation yeah right it's oh yeah every disease inflammation is the root of all evil yeah so how can we get rid of inflammation if we get rid of inflammation and you you have a healthy diet your gut's healthy the metabolic disorders are gone there's no reason there should be any
Starting point is 00:26:38 illness right so why aren't more doctor or dentists doing this? Education. Okay. Where did you find, where did you get most of your education on? Switzerland. Oh, okay. Yeah. So you went to Switzerland to get this knowledge in front of that? I went to Switzerland to study, yeah. Okay. So, you know, there's another interesting study in the American Heart Association published a study on Ranties.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Yes. And I want you to explain what Ranties is, but being associated with morbidity and mortality and metabolic syndrome. And metabolic syndrome is the leading cause of cardiovascular disease and cardiovascular disease is the leading cause of mortality. It's the number one killer in the world. And metabolic syndrome is obesity, diabetes mellitus type 2 and hypertension. And now some doctors will say it's also elevated triglycerides and high levels of insulin. But astoundingly, there is a direct correlation
Starting point is 00:27:36 between dental bacteria and dental parasites and the onset of metabolic syndrome. and according to studies this ranty's was associated with morbidity and mortality and in metabolic syndrome so talk to me a little bit about what that is and you know how can we fix that sure so you so before ranty started they call it fdlj or a cavitation or uh ib uh ischemic bone disease ivd right so fdoj stands for fatty fatty degenerative osteonecrosis of the jawbone okay or a cavitation or ischemic bone disease now you can subgroup them all three together right but when you look at it it's basically something that's taken out like if we took out your tooth and we didn't clean the bone
Starting point is 00:28:24 properly you'll basically have a pool of bacteria there right and it's just not bacteria it's viruses it's spirochetes parasites virus anything you want it's in in that bone that's just accumulating right and there's still blood that's going all the way around because you're a living being swelling or pain because i have no swelling or pain. And that's the thing about cavitations or FDOJs, there is no issue there, there's no swelling. But when you go back in there, it's fatty bone, that's why we call it fatty degenerative osteonecrosis of the jawbone, and you're just scooping it out,
Starting point is 00:28:58 and it's fat. So when I was doing surgery- It's literally soft? It's literally soft. So doing all these implants, it's when i would drill into jawbone this is before 2018 right drill into jawbone and all of a sudden you see like oil pop out you know you know me and my assistant like oh look a person probably just ate there's like eats oily diet or whatever right you don't know what it is because it's not in the textbooks like they're they're books out there now and dr lechner from germany
Starting point is 00:29:22 he's a he's dr ranty's he talks all about this stuff that's he devoted his life to this stuff right and when you find out like why this is in the jawbone it's not okay to have like it shouldn't be there like if that was in your hand your elbow fat anywhere they would be scraping that out and repairing it right but why is it allowed in this area and then all of a sudden we see disease rise there has to be something there correlation yeah you know another thing that i found really fascinating and this is super gnarly um and again i'm going to show the video on my my instagram i'm going to put this documentary together as as you know revealing as
Starting point is 00:30:03 it is um for me to do that for people yeah it's super gnarly but you know he when dr gandhi had my tooth out um i saw a little pocket on the bottom oh yeah yes yes yeah yeah no yeah that um what happened there was like a pocket there's a sack a balloon yeah at the bottom of the root of my tooth i don didn't feel it. I'm like, look, feel it. Yeah, it was like spongy. I go, what is that? I thought it was like a little piece of nerve or something. And it looked like a balloon.
Starting point is 00:30:33 And he said, that's a pocket of bacteria. I said, no way. And he's like, no, that's a pocket of bacteria and parasites. So he took it. We put it on a slide. He popped it. We put it on a slide. This is like the biohack. The things we find fun, right?
Starting point is 00:30:43 This is the biohacker. The dentistry is easy. The dentistry is easy. This is a the biohack. The things we find fun, right? This is the biohacker in me coming out. The dentistry is easy. This is the fun part. I mean, I was like super fascinated by it. And then I got a little nauseous because I was like, oh, that's my tooth. Because that's yours. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:54 And so he pops it. He puts it on this slide and he has a dark field microscope in the back of his office. Face contrast. Face contrast microscope in the back of his office. And we go back. We put it on a slide. And, you know, I throw the back of his office. And we go back, we put it on a slide and I throw it up on the screen and I could see the parasites and the bacteria.
Starting point is 00:31:10 I could even see my white blood cells. Yes. My macrophages going after it like a little Pac-Man, literally chasing them. It was, I mean, it's the wildest thing. So up on the screen, you can see the difference between your red blood cells and your white blood cells.
Starting point is 00:31:23 And then of course there's little spirochetes and bacteria. And the white blood cell was the macrophage was literally slowly engulfing it in real time and I was like, oh my God, that was going on inside my jaw. Yeah, so I've seen you pick your finger and look at your blood right before you do the superhuman protocol and after you do it. And you see how your blood cells are moving, how fresh they are. So now if you did that anywhere, like you just drew some blood, put it on a slide and look underneath the microscope and you saw all that stuff, what would you do? Oh, you'd freak. You'd freak out, right?
Starting point is 00:32:00 Yeah, like I did. But why aren't other people freaking out? Like that's the thing that we're trying to get get across to everybody like this is a problem yeah there is this is connected to your brain your heart your lungs everywhere yeah but and this is very like think about tooth number 19 we've worked on you right yeah it's only a few centimeters from your brain stem when you think about it right and that bacteria you have a major nerve that goes right behind here and we know nerves travel both ways right is that bacteria latches
Starting point is 00:32:27 on to that nerve where's it going this is gonna be awesome this is where we're gonna actually see the bacteria parasites and the things that were actually hiding above my jawline that were actually in my bone right up against my sinus and down in my jaw from that tooth that cracked and then I had a molar that was cracked too and and I had bacteria up underneath my molar right against my sinus. Wow this is so cool guys you can actually see the bacteria and the parasites that were actually down in my jaw. It's I mean it's it's disgusting but it makes me realize it was a smart idea to do this. I never thought that I would have
Starting point is 00:33:05 this kind of bacteria and parasites actually living beneath my tooth in the socket of my jaw. So this is the way a red blood cell should look. Right there. And then these are just dying. Wow.
Starting point is 00:33:21 What we're looking at here is a blood sample from the socket of the tooth that we took out. So we put it underneath the microscope. It's a face contrast microscope, and we're looking at the cellular debris. What we want to see is healthy red blood cells. But we knew the patient was symptomatic. He had problems with his tooth. So you can see macrophages.
Starting point is 00:33:39 You can see a lot of cellular debris that shouldn't be there. This is an immune system. He's a very healthy individual, so his immune system is actually fighting everything so the immune system showed up and it's starting to attack this stuff yeah but how long can it keep attacking and attacking right well that's the biggest thing right so it's very cool to look at it i'm so glad i got this done it should just be healthy like red blood cells just flowing through you shouldn't have any of this immune response especially in your jaw this is all immune or so yeah this should not be there at all let's say you came in and the tooth had a crown on it
Starting point is 00:34:10 and then look the way it did yeah you saw that on the x-ray 99% of dentists say that's that's normal really how is that normal because if that was in your skull let's say it was not your jaw but it was up here your spine or your hip or knee or foot what would the doctor say cancer there's something there we need to do a biopsy right why don't we do that in the mouth that's the biggest issue so we knew you were symptomatic so we knew something had to be done on this tooth right but if you were asymptomatic and we saw the black area that's not normal because every time you're chewing all this stuff is going into your bloodstream
Starting point is 00:34:44 right it's just cycling through cycling through so this should not be there at all so when you see these darker areas that look like the blood is kind of clumped up that's because the blood is stacked up right remember when we're when we're acidic the red blood cells have a tendency to stick together and they stack up so when you look at them through the microscope they appear darker when they spread out and get thinner, that's because they have the same charge. They're not attracting anymore. They're repelling.
Starting point is 00:35:11 So it creates a lot more surface area. Generally, the more alkaline we are, the more separated our red blood cells are. So the healthier that system is. So everywhere that they touch, you lose that surface area. So now that cell can't exchange with its outside environment and sorry because i have gauze in my mouth and i sound like a chipmunk because half my tongue is numb but when when when two cells have opposite charges they attract everywhere that they stick together you lose that surface area so now the cell can't exchange with its outside environment
Starting point is 00:35:42 it can't eliminate waste repair detox, detoxify, regenerate. So it's really kind of cool to see this because you can see areas where, you know, the blood is not stacked up and it's nice and thin and panned out. There's a lot of mobility. And then you see other areas where it's kind of stuck together. So look at the flow of red blood cells here. So this is an active flow of red blood cells. These are the ones that we just pulled out of Madison's jaw
Starting point is 00:36:13 from underneath of her infected tooth. White blood cells. You can see red blood cells. it's called macrophages there's a lot of migration going on right there so a lot of these are just healthy red blood cells the big white dots that you see are called macrophages this is a part of the immune system that goes in and cleans up foreign pathogens okay so here's another question are there any teeth that we should be concerned about that lead to other behaviors of his should we be she wants to pull them all out she does need some more dental work today so
Starting point is 00:37:04 you tell me the symptoms we we can figure it out. Oh, there's a lot of symptoms. Do you have like a couple days? They might all be coming out. Let me call the anesthesiologist. You didn't eat or drink anything today. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:18 But also the cool part, after there was a lot of blood, like the fresh red blood, when I was happy, now it's bleeding right now and you saw it on the screen we swabbed your blood again yeah and we could compare it and what'd you see on there yeah that was beautiful i actually showed the i actually showed the slide afterwards so i showed the slide with the pocket of bacteria and then i also showed the blood sample afterwards you can just see these beautiful cylindrical red blood cells kind of slithering around, bouncing off of each other. There was lots of mobility in there. There were no parasites, there were no bacteria, there were no white blood cells anywhere on the slide. So you could see that the infection and the parasitic colonies were gone, and even the white blood cells were no longer at that site. And it know, when you're, it's so gnarly to talk about it and to think about it,
Starting point is 00:38:07 it's even more gnarly for me to know that it was in my body. But since then I can tell you, you know, what else was odd was, you know, my nose ran for a few days. You had another tooth we worked on too. Yeah. And, and afterwards it cleared up and I felt amazing. I called him for like a week i was texting him every day i'm like dude i feel amazing i mean i kind of always feel amazing thank you message because you kept like going like yeah i wasn't doing that anymore yeah yeah but that was and you didn't feel
Starting point is 00:38:36 any symptoms on the top right as well none and i was like dude we're taking this tooth out you're like why like you had a huge infection there yeah that's why and it's it's a contained infection there's no swelling there's no pain there's no inflammation you know you're eating food fine you know you don't even feel any pressure or dullness or anything so you know people that have had these root canals done could very well have these colonies and it's how do they get that checked out like what a 3d scan 3d scan 3d scan you check the 3d scan you can look at the different densities every scan is different set up like depends on the manufacturer but you can see that you trace the root and we did that for every single one of your teeth trace the root all the way down into the bone and look at all three
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Starting point is 00:40:50 because I've had root canals done in the past. I have some of the symptoms you guys are talking about, brain fog, weight gain, water retention, memory issues, or even worse, I have a neurodegenerative condition that they don't know the root cause of um they want to when they contact that dentist they want to say do you do 3d scans correct okay majority of dentists should be doing 3d scans now you know there's some that don't but majority do okay and if they're asymptomatic have no illnesses nothing then hey you at least now you know there's
Starting point is 00:41:22 something there and keep an eye on it. And that's what we tell patients, you have choices here, do nothing, take it out, retreat it, and your choice is yours. It's your body, your choice. What you're trying to tell you. If you're having symptoms, question it. Don't pop a medication, don't take ibuprofen or painkillers or like rheumatoid arthritis meds
Starting point is 00:41:42 when it can be something that's linked right right because then you're going down the pill road your liver and kidneys are going to become shot and you brought up a good point where your pain you didn't take any opioids afterwards any painkillers afterwards nope and that's the thing that's the beauty of doing a process like this because we got your own blood to bleed again instead of just packing some gauze in there and say hey off you go right instead of like because your tooth was out literally 30 seconds could have just packed some gauze and be like hey next patient right but here we spent the time making sure everything was really done well and you felt the energy so i was like i know now i got everything yeah yeah no it felt amazing you
Starting point is 00:42:18 did my daughter you're actually doing both of my daughters and my wife um so everybody's getting this stuff yeah like everybody my family you know the other thing that i'm going to post for these guys to look at i'm going to post a link to this meridian chart yes um what about your tooth right now sorry to throw you the one i cracked yeah the one you cracked so now i'm curious which tooth that is and what so that's tooth number 30 that's the complete uh that's the same tooth the other side yeah so that well i just cracked it so that could be right side yeah okay so it just cracked there is some black area around it which shouldn't be black a tooth should not be black like right all right so bone tooth is stronger than bone 2.5 times stronger than bone enamel right and then we got the dentin layer underneath and then you got the
Starting point is 00:42:58 cementum which is the root right okay but a tooth should not be black if you had a bone that was black there's a problem. Right. So right now, part of your tooth is black. We have to see if that's the materials that we use, the bonding agents, if that's decay, or it's actually leading to something more. And here's the crazy thing. I actually take really good care of my teeth. I floss on a regular basis.
Starting point is 00:43:20 I have a tongue scraper. I brush my teeth with non-fluoride toothpaste, which I want to get into fluoride with you in a moment. You know, again, this goes beyond dental hygiene, right? And this goes to these mainly dental procedures that you've had in the past. But I'm definitely going to post this Meridian chart because this was the thing that really blew my mind. I literally canceled vacation and came up to see you the next day.
Starting point is 00:43:46 Yes, you were at Cabo. And I'm like, no, you need to come up here. And I was like, remember? Oh, yeah, that's right. I was going to Cabo. Yeah, you were in Cabo already. I was there. And you and Madison flew up.
Starting point is 00:43:53 She was like, yeah, you go get your tooth pulled. I was like, peace out, babe. I'm going to Cabo. Go to the beach. So she still bailed on me. I was with you. Only one person needs me. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:02 I took my other daughter who had a bunk tooth, and we went to New York and got our teeth pulled. So, and now today we're back in New York and three of us are getting teeth today. It's so funny. Fix this Reddit. Melina's getting a tooth. Sage is getting a tooth.
Starting point is 00:44:13 I'm getting a tooth. Is there anybody else? You want a tooth, Max? Well, I actually, the one that you're fixing for me is I went in and had a crack and they did a root canal on me. And then when I went back in to get the cap on it i guess they they saw like a microscopic section or something it cracked i guess and they couldn't cap it and so they pulled it and i and i remember asking him why i don't think i want a root canal
Starting point is 00:44:37 just pull it if we're gonna potentially have to get there anyway just yank it out but he was like no no no you know root canal is way better and he talked me into the root canal good part of me is glad that it all just needed to come out anyway because i could potentially be having issues correct and that's the thing is like we give patients the option right and they have their choice like i won't do it they can someone else can do that if they want to but for me i know what what works in my hands and what i see the results of the patients i wish i had that's you know that's the best way to see like this the patients could come in they're sick and all of a sudden they're healing they're well yeah and i'm not curing everything 100 because you know if you've been sick for a long period of time it needs to reverse
Starting point is 00:45:19 it's going to run its course it's not like an instant fix yours was just starting and it was like okay hey let's let's hammer it before it takes longer yeah because we were talking about it for a while but i'm like dude that's it and and so tell me about some of the cases you've seen where these things have you've seen other conditions resolve in a patient after having got um so you can go with breast cancer right you got the lower molars and upper premolars are linked to breast cancer okay right and if there's no genetic history at all and there's no genes at all that lead to breast cancer but yet those teeth have dental work
Starting point is 00:45:58 yeah and they had dental work done on them and then they're infected and all of a sudden the patient has comes out with cancer so it's so if we can work as a team like oncologists hey let's let's work as a team instead of like no let's just do the cancer therapy but now the patient can't eat they're miserable they have infections in their jawbone right so the problem is the dentist is the last person to see in this whole group the dentist needs to be at the top of the game here it's like everyone needs to quarterback this thing right okay well disease free in the mouth all the bad stuff is out okay now if you got to get the chemo you got to do the radiation go ahead do it right whatever it is do but at least you got the
Starting point is 00:46:38 toxins out yeah well if you leave all these toxins in there where they're accumulating and the the meridian pathways this is ancient Chinese medicine, 4,000 or 5,000 years, and it's proven, right? And all of a sudden, it's like they go, it stops. Like, it's not progressing. It's insane. You know, it's no accident that the exact same oral bacteria that is found in these cavitations, and by the way,
Starting point is 00:47:04 cavitations is an area where, you know, if you've had a root canal and you've got dead tissue, this cavitation is a tooth pull. Yeah, this area where there's dead tissue is an area where all these bacterias and pathogens gather, and we call it a cavitation. But the identical bacteria is found in cardiovascular disease in the heart. And so, and if you look at how the mouth drains, you know, too, I mean, right into, you know, right into the heart and so and if you look at how the mouth drains yeah you know
Starting point is 00:47:25 too i mean right right into um you know right into the heart so it's very easy for bacteria to migrate there um and i don't want to fear monger you know the root canals work right if someone's in acute pain you got to do it you got to get the person out of pain yeah it works right the problem is that it starts to break down right no matter how good anything is, the human body breaks down. Things are going to break down. And the maintenance, if it's broken down, it's not treated, pathogens are going to seep in. The mouth is the dirtiest place in the body. It's really dirty.
Starting point is 00:47:57 At the end of the day, there's so much bacteria. It doesn't matter how much you clean, floss, mouth rinse, whatever it is. And we're working. We need a watertight seal. And if the seal is broken, everything is going. Again, each tooth has a nerve, artery, vein, lymphatic system. But it should be closed off one end. Remember, the thing that's sticking up in your mouth is a bone.
Starting point is 00:48:19 You don't have a bone anywhere else sticking out. If you did, you'd be in pain. If your tibia were sticking out you were like holy cow this right right but you're not with your tooth right that's the only place in the body and now if there's an issue with it it's going to get into the nerve and from that it's going into the bone now it's spreading right right so we need to catch it before it gets there right so so let's talk about things that we can do to prevent that. And I also want to talk to you about your stance on fluoride.
Starting point is 00:48:49 You know, I've done a lot of posts and discussions about, you know, fluorides have been proven to be a neurotoxin. There was a recent study that was published looking at 3,600 municipalities across the country and actually finding an inverse correlation between fluoride and IQ, meaning the higher the concentration of fluoride in the water, the lower the IQ in those municipal locations. If you want to see that study, I'll put it on the podcast as well. But so I know when I was growing up, you know, they would put that little in your mouth and you would get a fluoride treatment and it had that awful awful
Starting point is 00:49:26 pungent grape taste then you could pick your flavor i remember that yes it's all flavored yeah but it was like it was like it was like really flavored medicine like yeah it's terrible really really shitty uh you know like cough syrup but um so what's your position on fluoride or using fluoride toothpaste or not using toothpaste that doesn't have fluoride in it? So for me personally, I use fluoride-free toothpaste, fluoride-free mouthwash, right? Okay, I'm happy to hear that. Yeah, 100%. So fluoride is an electron stealer, right?
Starting point is 00:49:54 So it's stealing from everywhere else it needs. And it's very reactive, right? Because it's in the same periodic column, bromine, right? Or bromide. Bromide. Right? So it's the same area, right? So it's very reactive the the biggest issue that we face as dentists is someone's coming in with a mouthful
Starting point is 00:50:09 of cavities we have nothing else in our arsenal like if they're not changing their diet their lifestyle is not changing right we without teeth your nutrition is garbage right you need teeth to chew you can't masquerade right even if you had dentures you're still not chewing like people like i chew with my dentures like sure how much are you really chewing your food you need nice sharp teeth to really crush things break things apart and really grind and chew and it's functional right because it's there's a joint that's holding your teeth hold up this joint in the muscles so now back to the fluoride problem is if someone's coming with a lot of cavities we have nothing else in our arsenal right if they're not doing their home care if they're going to
Starting point is 00:50:50 change their home care they change their diet they change their lifestyle then we don't need to right so that's we got to pick and choose so yes does it work for patients who need it yes what i'm seeing now we probably see maybe we see a lot of patients a month but maybe one maybe two patients a month with rampant decay is there a reason for that is it is it hereditary do people i always hear like soft teeth get more cavities if they had soft teeth the rest of their bones would be soft okay so you know it's something that you mentioned earlier uh before we started the podcast someone mentioned to you like soft teeth right or you or a family member would have soft teeth but no like that was just something a dentist said to somebody like if your teeth were that soft you would
Starting point is 00:51:33 literally have other diseases going on right right because bone right so you got to break it down what is a tooth it's a bone right stronger than bone right so um well like why do some kids get like i've had one cavity in my entire life um some kids although i did get told by a dentist after i had my daughter that i um had 10 cavities out of nowhere because he tried to convince me that since i was breastfeeding my daughter she was sucking all my nutrients out and he oh my god he almost got me for 10 cavities well i'm glad you didn't go that road you got a second opinion uh you know so what i like to do is always take photos i need the patient on the same page as me so here are photos of your teeth even some patients like i don't want to see it like here's
Starting point is 00:52:13 a photo of your tooth yeah this is the plan for this tooth each tooth has its own individual plant the 32 teeth 32 individual plants and this is how we're going to get everything better um soft teeth i don't believe in so there's a genetic condition very rare but does it work for some patients yeah because they're not going to change their lifestyle yeah you know again and i heard you'd say easier like you know when you talk about the cold plunge if if there was a pill people would do it right who would be willing to go through that right right and that's the same exact thing it's like here's not a pill but here's the cream, here's the toothpaste.
Starting point is 00:52:46 It's a lot easier than changing the diet and lifestyle. Right. Well, I will tell you, my own personal experience was that the procedure was not as nearly as painful as I thought it was going to be. Like I said, I experienced a pain level of two. The aftermath was extraordinary for both me and my daughter, Madison. I mean, we both experienced the same thing, like more energy, like sinuses didn't feel, you know, congested. The shoulder, the lobe pain and the toe issue, all my issue toe,
Starting point is 00:53:21 like all went away, hasn't come back since. And, you know know the point that i really want to emphasize is that you know people can find a biologic dentist in their area and at least go get it checked out if they're having some of these kinds of correct um you would recommend that they do that oh 100 at least this way you know what's going on right so and then you don't have to proceed right away. You can at least know like, hey, I have a game plan now. So if something happens or something leads this way, you question your physician, you question your doctors, right? So
Starting point is 00:53:55 the biggest thing for me is instead of using Google to figure out your symptoms, go to PubMed. Right. Right. Go to PubMed, get the articles and then take it to your doctors hey it says this online it's a and when you say online no it's actually pub med articles what do you think about that over yeah yeah exactly web md or just google or they say oh my friend said this right here's the proof and when you do that i think it makes a huge difference it's because now it's like we're not doing there's no weird stuff science right literally that's my term yeah i think it might be trademarked yeah just science that's just science i end every podcast but that's just science sure
Starting point is 00:54:38 um so what are your pilots what other type of modalities are you using that other practices are not that you think are different and helpful and i don't know cutting edge i guess better biologic biologics so prf right using your own blood we use the concentrate and then we also make the membranes from there the plate rich plate rich fiber yeah the plate rich fiber and then we're using the lasers there's different lasers like i have six different lasers in the office we have lasers every room like that that's the operatory we use a laser okay it's a daily thing we're using our practice because we know it helps it's killing the bugs the bad bugs right and then it's helping healthy tissue grow it's painless and the recovery helps that's the thing it's it's how quickly can we help a patient heal we We're going to create inflammation, but if we take the inflammation and the bad markers out of there,
Starting point is 00:55:28 now the good markers, the body can heal. So we just offset it quicker. So the lasers, then we're using a lot of ozone. The ozone, again, it's an extra oxygen, so it's three oxygens. Highly reactive. As soon as it finds a bug, it's killing it. It's a negative charge. And then it's only leaving oxygen gas. That's what's left over yeah which goes into blood which you
Starting point is 00:55:48 need oxygen that's this life right yeah so so you think of all this porous bone it's like how do i get down in there and get after all those little bugs i mean gas you know ozone gas can get down in there and actually it's cytotoxic um and and bactericidal meaning it'll kill the bacteria correct and kill kill the pathogens and just not bacteria parasites fungus viruses it's drilling a hole in those cell walls because there's not and there's no antioxidants there right right so it's just it's gonna kill it annihilate it that's great yeah hey guys as you know i do not push products on my podcast or my social media unless i use them in my everyday life this is one of those products most of us have a very difficult time meeting our protein needs
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Starting point is 00:58:07 their lab tested products you can actually see the absorption rate for all their products they've got great electrolyte protein combinations my favorite is the perfect aminos bodyhealth.com forward slash ultimate and now back to the ultimate human podcast that That's great. So, you know, I actually have another study here, and this was specifically on the effect of laser therapy, and this is red light lasers. I'm a huge believer in photobiomodulation, you know, red light therapy, sun exposure, things like that for reducing inflammation and optimal health. But this is about red light lasers and their use in cytokine concentration,
Starting point is 00:58:45 so markers of inflammation, specifically in the jaw, and also that it stimulates angiogenesis and fibroblast proliferation. And angiogenesis is the new blood vessel growth. Collagen, there you go. So after this procedure you're actually strengthening the bones strengthening the gums strengthening the the jaw correct by restoring all of this blood flow yeah and then we i gave you red lights after to go home with and what i tell you just shine it on that area he gave me a red light yeah he came home yeah all his little boxes of toys i'm telling you
Starting point is 00:59:21 he was literally like a little kid but it works it totally works it healed so fast it was astounding and madison and i my daughter and i we call each other every day and i'm like do you have any pain she's like no i go um i don't have any pain either she's like dad it's it's totally healed i don't feel like i had the procedure done i'm like i still told you to take it easy for a week because knowing you yeah yeah yeah yeah that doesn't happen yeah but see that's the thing we get patients off of meds, painkillers. I was going to say. Antibiotics.
Starting point is 00:59:48 We're getting them off of meds. And that's a passion of mine. Like, well, people don't need to be on meds. Like dentistry, it's like you take, all right, fine, take a Tylenol, but let's get rid of the opioids. Yeah. Right. And if we can do that, and you had major surgery, right?
Starting point is 01:00:01 Yeah. And usually it's just like, here you go, opioids. Yep. I didn't have any of those yeah we're in cabo where he literally could have gone to a pharmacy they would have just hand delivered him whatever he needed but yeah but i remember i was down anything yeah i didn't need anything yeah it was impressive so i really really appreciate that um you know is there anything else that you think these guys need to know we need to cover before you know one of my mentors always says
Starting point is 01:00:25 if it's metal or dead get out of your head you know it's true you know it's it's one of those things i if it's if it's causing a blockage or causing inflammation it's like you know um when you go to the dentist have them look at the tissue right the tissue gives you everything even if you had no x-ray like if i didn't take any x-ray i could tell you you have inflammation here and you have inflammation here now let's deep dive into why you have inflammation there right so take the scan okay oh it shows now we can correlate them there's no reason why your gum tissue should not be nice and healthy right right and even if you dental work and your gums are puffy question it right don't just say okay well that's normal yeah and the big takeaway you know the reason why i share my personal story is the big takeaway is that
Starting point is 01:01:10 i had no pain no inflammation no swelling no pressure no symptoms in my jaw at all other than my tooth was starting to change color but it was completely painless and i put it off forever until you sent me that chart and it correlated to all those symptoms. And that's when I canceled my trip to Cabo, went up and had it done. All of those symptoms have gone away. I really would encourage folks that are listening to this podcast, if they have a loved one that's suffering from a neurodegenerative disorder of any kind, or they have brain fog, muscle aches, weight gain, water water retention poor short-term recall and they've
Starting point is 01:01:45 had dental work done recently or in the past especially a root canal um it it's not a big deal to go get it checked out by one of these 3d imaging devices and at least see if you have a cavitation now are these cavitations these these pockets of bacteria and pathogens are they visible on the kinds of you can see the difference you can see the difference in the bone density okay then you start questioning you you play detective work you say okay when was this tooth taken out if it wasn't taken out why is there an issue there did you get your sister who had childhood injury i saw it on a 2d image on there and i questioned it like why she had a mark in her jawbone still. Yeah. It was, it was very specific too, because when he went through my x-rays and my images,
Starting point is 01:02:29 you could see that there was a pocket of some sort there underneath my tooth in the one that was affected. It happened to be the one that was discolored. Um, so, and if you guys, those of you that are, that really want to see the gnarly video, I'm going to post it on my Instagram, the full video. It's all shot in high res. Dr. Gandhi talks us through the whole procedure. So if you want to see what the entire journey was like, you're welcome to look at the journey.
Starting point is 01:02:56 The coolest thing is that slide where you actually see my white blood cells going after pathogens and the parasites and the bacteria. And I just could not get over the fact that that was sitting in my jaw. And even though I eat clean water, I mean, I drink clean water. You detox your whole body. You detox your whole body. He's on it. I mean, I'm pretty on my game.
Starting point is 01:03:18 But you got to imagine, you had inflammation. Using red light, I'm using cold plunging, I exercise, I get enough sleep. And yet this was going on. And so even if you're really practicing good oral hygiene, you may have some- And that's the other thing. So if someone's going through a whole detox and they have inflammation in their mouth, there's no way.
Starting point is 01:03:37 Their mouth's gonna be acidic, there's too many toxins. So you're gonna relapse. And then you're gonna say, well, my sister did a detox or my friend did it, it worked for them, it's not working for me. Now you give up right the reason why the detox is not working because there's things going on right here yeah and if that's not handled then that's the problem so interesting well this has been amazing um i super appreciate your time today appreciate you i can't say that i'm excited to get my tooth yanked, but I'm excited to get mine put in.
Starting point is 01:04:05 What are you going to use? What do you use? We're going to use a ceramic implant there. Ceramic. Okay. Very cool. So maybe we'll follow your journey too. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:12 If we put a temporary on there or not today, we'll see, just depending on the stability. Because you did have the tooth taken out a while ago, so I still want to clean out the jawbone. Now, again, I didn't do the surgery for you, taking the tooth out. So I'm still going to use the same protocol as we did for you, taking the tooth out. So I'm still gonna use the same protocol as we did for Gary, cleaning out the jawbone, make sure everything's healthy before putting an implant in there.
Starting point is 01:04:30 It's not just like a one, two, three surgery. Even though you have the bone, it's neat to see what's still lurking in there. So if it's still in there, we're gonna clean it out, make it fresh bone, let it bleed, and then go ahead and put the implant in there. I end every podcast by asking my guests this same question question there's no right or wrong answer to this but i ask every guest the same question what does it mean to you to be an ultimate human so it means
Starting point is 01:04:54 to wake up every morning wanting to get out of bed not hitting the snooze button excelling in life doing everything you can to the full max and And there's no stoppage, no barriers. There's mental clarity and there's no aches and pains getting in your way. Wow. I like it. Yeah. That's a good one. That is a good one. I don't think I've ever asked you that question. So maybe we'll do that on a podcast. You might say your husband, but I do want one of those hoodies. Merch is going to be available online very soon. Merch is coming soon. But guys, if you were inspired by this podcast as I was, and it was a very inspirational journey for me, I'm going to document the entire thing on Instagram.
Starting point is 01:05:33 As I said before, if you're not in the Long Island area in New York and can't come see Dr. Gandhi, then search biologic dentist in your area. Because I really encourage you, if you're having any of those symptoms or a loved one's having those symptoms, to have a biologic dentist in your area. Cause I really encourage you if you're having any of those symptoms or loved ones, having those symptoms to have a biologic dentist, check you out. And as always, that's just science. No weird stuff. Just science.

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