The Ultimate Human with Gary Brecka - 180. Danica Patrick: Shares Her Health Transformation After Removing Breast Implants

Episode Date: July 3, 2025

Authenticity vibrates at a frequency 4,000 times stronger than love — and Danica Patrick’s health transformation proves it. When she finally listened to her body’s authentic signals and removed ...her breast implants after seven years of illness, her oil production, scalp health, and energy returned within hours. At 43, she’s in the best shape of her life following two simple protocols: eat your protein and lift weights. Your body tells the truth when you stop overcomplicating and start listening to its authentic frequencies.  Join the Ultimate Human VIP community and gain exclusive access to Gary Brecka's proven wellness protocols today!: https://bit.ly/4ai0Xwg Connect with Danica Patrick: Get Danica Patrick’s book, “Pretty Intense” here: https://bit.ly/45Nc7Jp    Listen to "Danica Patrick Pretty Intense Podcast" on all your favorite platforms! YouTube: https://bit.ly/45MKYpX  Spotify: https://bit.ly/44AFNHt  Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/44z2DPK    Connect with Danica Patrick: Website: https://bit.ly/3GgvaBv  YouTube: https://bit.ly/4ko12lH  Instagram: https://bit.ly/44d7Bmk  TikTok: https://bit.ly/3TnwmpI  Facebook: https://bit.ly/4lFJG4R  X.com: https://bit.ly/4laoZ0V  LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/3TUsH2G  Thank you to our partners: H2TABS - USE CODE “ULTIMATE10” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/4hMNdgg BODYHEALTH - USE CODE “ULTIMATE20” FOR 20% OFF: http://bit.ly/4e5IjsV BAJA GOLD - USE CODE "ULTIMATE10" FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/3WSBqUa EIGHT SLEEP - SAVE $350 ON THE POD 4 ULTRA WITH CODE “GARY”: https://bit.ly/3WkLd6E COLD LIFE - THE ULTIMATE HUMAN PLUNGE: https://bit.ly/4eULUKp WHOOP - GET 1 FREE MONTH WHEN YOU JOIN!: https://bit.ly/3VQ0nzW MASA CHIPS - GET 20% OFF YOUR FIRST ORDER: https://bit.ly/40LVY4y VANDY - USE CODE “ULTIMATE20” FOR 20% OFF: https://bit.ly/49Qr7WE AION - USE CODE “ULTIMATE10” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/4h6KHAD HAPBEE - FEEL BETTER & PERFORM AT YOUR BEST: https://bit.ly/4a6glfo CARAWAY - USE CODE “ULTIMATE” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/3Q1VmkC HEALF - GET 10% OFF YOUR ORDER: https://bit.ly/41HJg6S BIOPTIMIZERS - USE CODE “ULTIMATE” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/4inFfd7 RHO NUTRITION - USE CODE “ULTIMATE15” FOR 15% OFF: https://bit.ly/44fFza0 GENETIC TEST: ⁠https://bit.ly/3Yg1Uk9 Watch  the “Ultimate Human Podcast” every Tuesday & Thursday at 9AM EST: YouTube: https://bit.ly/3RPQYX8 Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3RQftU0 Connect with Gary Brecka: Instagram: https://bit.ly/3RPpnFs TikTok: https://bit.ly/4coJ8foX.com: https://bit.ly/3Opc8tf Facebook: https://bit.ly/464VA1H LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/4hH7Ri2 Website: https://bit.ly/4eLDbdU Merch: https://bit.ly/4aBpOM1 Newsletter: https://bit.ly/47ejrws Ask Gary: https://bit.ly/3PEAJuG Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 04:37 270% Increase in US Obesity Rates since the ‘70s 10:03 Healthy Foundation 11:57 Benefits of Simplicity in Food  13:49 Nutritional and Healthcare Guidelines 17:27 Non-Negotiable Habits as a Professional Athlete 21:03 Biohacking Practices 24:13 Breast Implant Illnesses29:45 Advice for Women & BII Awareness The Ultimate Human with Gary Brecka Podcast is for general informational purposes only and does not constitute the practice of medicine, nursing or other professional health care services, including the giving of medical advice, and no doctor/patient relationship is formed. The use of information on this podcast or materials linked from this podcast is at the user’s own risk. The Content of this podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical condition they may have and should seek the assistance of their health care professionals for any such conditions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Our bodies are miraculous. It's amazing what they can overcome and how it can heal itself, but that will run out. You will end up sick. You will end up miserable. Isn't it amazing how myopic and out of touch we've gotten with our own bodies? Because it signals to you. We often think that the things that we're allergic to are the ones that immediately flare up our nose or make our eyes water. But the truth is, you know, a lot of these things after we eat them, you get the bloating, the weight gain, the water retention. Those are signs that your body doesn't like what you're eating. And there's a reason why so many countries out there
Starting point is 00:00:30 don't accept our food, because it doesn't fit their criteria. You know, what's interesting is the simplicity in food is where the magic is. And I think we overcomplicate food. I do believe that there's an energy to knowing and loving your food. I love cooking, and I use good good ingredients and I put love into it.
Starting point is 00:00:48 And I do think that makes a difference. And I think fundamentally most Americans want to be healthy, but truly just don't know where to start. It starts with caring about your food. Know what's in food as well. Learn how to garden. Learn how to love your food. What are some of the fundamental changes
Starting point is 00:01:05 that you would love to see in our nutritional and healthcare guidance? I'm so grateful for modern medicine. I'm grateful for acute medicine, but I really think that health in general should be. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:01:19 Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Hey guys, welcome back to the ultimate human podcast.
Starting point is 00:01:31 I'm your host, human biologist, Gary Breckett, where we go down the road of everything anti-aging, biohacking, longevity and everything in between. And today here from the White House, we have a very special guest on. I'm really excited to run this with you. It is Danica Patrick, former race car driver, turned health advocate, and part of this MAHA movement. It's blessed to be on board with you during this movement. I'm really excited to get into this interview.
Starting point is 00:01:57 You're doing such great things. We were just rambling for 15 minutes. Yeah, we had an off-podcast podcast. Talking about authenticity and the power of authenticity. I mean, I told you, I've used the, you know, the statistic or study that you've shared that authenticity is 4,000 times stronger than love
Starting point is 00:02:17 as a frequency. That is incredible. Like that's just, this is, you know, what you're doing is making a big difference and those kinds of scientific things. Because that's the thing, like we were also talking about the ineffable in a way and the feelings and intuition. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:30 You're starting to put science to the things that are a little more mysterious or a little hard to quantify. I think we've always had sort of a fear of the unknown or how we dissuade the things that we can't prove. Things like faith and intuition and frequency. And if you don't believe in the universal law of attraction, for example, which I didn't for years, right? I thought it was just a bunch of like,
Starting point is 00:02:57 woo woo nonsense, you know? It's like, yeah, go smoke some more weed, dude. But when you start to really break down the science of it, I actually was reading, this is way off topic, but a scientific journal on frequency. And it was a physics journal. And there's a law in physics called constructive interference. And it says, if two frequencies of equal wavelength meet, the size of the frequency doubles.
Starting point is 00:03:21 And what it means is you can get energy from conversation. Yeah. You can get energy from other people. Yeah. They can also suck energy. Oh this is what guides my life. I mean I took the bus if you will. There are so many people here and so I was making some jokes before about I'm I work very closely with Gabrielle Lyon and she's my doctor. I love Gabrielle Gabrielle Lyon. And she's also a very good friend of mine. Big shout out. And so she couldn't make it. So she's sending Don Layman here in her place and she's like, look after Don, introduce him to everybody, help him get in there to be able to make a difference and help out
Starting point is 00:03:56 with some of the guidelines and whatnot. And Don said, well, I'm an introvert. And I was like, well, good, me too. And I said, we can just camp out in the corner and talk about wine and good restaurants in Chicago. But now you have like 10 podcasts. I know. But I was like, and anyway, the point is, is that the wrong conversation drains me very quickly.
Starting point is 00:04:16 And I have so much less tolerance for it now, but the right ones do energize me. So I would call myself an introvert because I always get energy alone as a defining factor. But I absolutely, I have no doubt that these interviews that I have lined up here before we do this beautiful signing this afternoon will give me energy because it's all stuff that's like so passion,
Starting point is 00:04:36 such a passion for me and I've lived it, right? Like you have too, that's kind of what leads you down these beautiful passionate routes is that they're part of your life and you've needed them at times. You know what's amazing is the rooms of the people that I'm in, people like yourselves, some of the most, you know, I just sat and talked
Starting point is 00:04:55 to Dr. Oz, just some of the most passionate, purpose, mission-driven people, and it is so palpable when you meet them. You see it in their eyes, you feel it in their energy. And there's an energy around here and around this Maha movement that I can't really explain. It's, I don't, you know, I call it the Holy Spirit. I just call it a palpable energy from a unified vision,
Starting point is 00:05:23 and you can absolutely sense it. Well, it's a collective. So there's a lot of talk, too, about the frequency of the planet elevating once it reaches a critical point, or there's the 100th monkey theory, where it's like once the 100th monkey in a group believes that, knows a certain thing,
Starting point is 00:05:39 it sort of transmits to everyone. Wow, I never heard that theory. And when you look at it, here we are in this amazing White House set here. Right? We're in the White House. And the thing is that Maha has not been a sanctioned or it's not a, this is not a White House or a government program.
Starting point is 00:05:55 This has been an independent movement that is now sitting right here because it has that passion that you're talking about. And authenticity. No question. And what? And authenticity. Oh, thank you. So I wanna run a couple things by you because these are sadly shocking
Starting point is 00:06:13 and about the state of, you know, American chronic disease in America. We know that we sadly are the sickest, fattest, most disease-reducing nation in the world. We also are the highest spender on healthcare worldwide. And some of the public policy powerhouses that I've interviewed today and going to interview throughout the rest of the day are so mission-driven at changing that. And I noticed that there's a narrative beginning to attack them, calling it pseudoscience,
Starting point is 00:06:40 calling them chemophobes, you know, saying that there's a personal agenda. But this report, which is gonna be released at three o'clock today, I wanna just read some things to you and get your thoughts on it. And this will be public in just a few hours. Over one in five children over six years old are obese. This is a 270% increase since the 1970s. The U.S. obesity rate is more than double that
Starting point is 00:07:03 of the other G7 nations. And 80% of obese teens remain obese through their adulthood. More than one in four teens have pre-diabetes with rates doubling in just the last two decades alone. What do you think, I mean as someone who has shifted from being a professional athlete, and that's not to say that you're not still a professional athlete, to being in the to say that you're not still a professional athlete, to being in the health advocacy space. What are some things that we can do
Starting point is 00:07:31 from a public policy position, from an educational position, to lift the masses up and bring awareness to the masses and give them some tools that they can arm themselves with? It's a great question. And I think it really starts a little fundamental. It starts with caring about your food. It starts with maybe even growing some of your own food.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Like what stops schools from... Look, I think there's a lot of problems with school and the curriculum that exists. I don't use much of it. I'm glad I can read and write and that kind of thing. But you know, so much of it, especially as it goes on, is kind of worthless, I feel like. But gardening wouldn't be, right?
Starting point is 00:08:10 Understanding food and really understanding nutrition. And that's some guidelines that are gonna get redone. Let's hope that Surgeon General Casey Means, future Surgeon General, will come in and be able to push those things forward. And you guys will be able to all help organize what that looks like. But for there to be a true understanding, so plug that into the schools, plug that information in, learn how to garden, learn how to love your food, know what's in food as well. I mean, there's plenty
Starting point is 00:08:38 of times that people I would think would know what's in food. They're like, oh wait, there's no carbohydrates in chicken. And I'm like, what? So educating on that stuff would be incredible because you can't expect the mass of these companies to not try and still make money and not try and still sort of push their agendas of what they want, but you can change from the, like at the core of humans awareness
Starting point is 00:09:06 and knowledge, what they're willing to buy, right and what they're willing to do. So, so I think that if you change that that that will help. I think that then when we get to sort of I think maybe what some of that's going to be in that bill is just the quality of things to like, you know, the soil and the quality of the seeds and all the different things and things that you add to it, whether there has chemicals in it or not, organic farming, no pesticides. I mean, that then becomes sort of the next phase
Starting point is 00:09:36 of making it quality. But I do believe that there's an energy to knowing and loving your food. Like I love cooking and people would say that my food's good and I'm like, it's not always that exciting or complicated, but I use good ingredients and I put love into it. And I do think that makes a difference. So if you love your food, you're gonna make good food
Starting point is 00:09:57 and it's gonna be better for you. And then you're gonna energetically, you're putting that energy into it and you're putting that energy into your body. So I think that's some of the stuff that could change from a culture standpoint. Right. And then the government can just take control of like how it's all handled, because let's face it, not everyone's going to have a garden, not everyone's going to do that.
Starting point is 00:10:15 But the stuff that you get in stores, it should be better quality. There should be a higher integrity to it all. I mean, there's a reason why so many countries out there don't accept our food, won't buy our food, because it doesn't fit their criteria. Or even allow our food. They don't even just buy it. They don't even allow it to be sold. I mean, there are countries like Russia
Starting point is 00:10:35 where it's a felony to grow genetically modified food. So, when you have principles like that around food, that don't allow these things to creep into the food supply or you educate the populace or you don't allow them on slick marketing campaigns to sort of wordsmith their way around detrimental ingredients. I think you have the foundation. I think that Secretary Rollins, Brooke Rollins is gonna do a great job. She was just over in the UK working on a deal with selling our selling our meat to the United Kingdom,
Starting point is 00:11:07 which they'll be happy about that because it's delicious. But also, I mean, I had a conversation with her even about going out to my winery out in Napa because it's organically farmed and, you know, agriculture is very important and the quality of what it is is very important. So you know, I think there's definitely things that government can do, but I think from a culture standpoint, it's about understanding what you're eating and loving that food. I mean, outside of mastering your craft and your career,
Starting point is 00:11:37 how foundational was nutrition, exercise, sleep? What were some of the things outside of just the intentional mastery of your craft were really impactful on your career? What would you say were some of the non-negotiables? Non-negotiables, I mean, no drinking. I mean, the lack of sharpness in the next day after that kind of thing is, look, I think it has some medicinal.
Starting point is 00:12:01 It could risk your life too, behind the wheel at that speed. Yeah, drinking and driving is bad, okay? I'm drinking driving 200 miles an hour is even worse but even the night before you know just it can cloud your judgment just make you a little foggy I think hydration was super important I wish I knew known then what I know now about hydration I mean I see salts I mean I't, I like avoided salts in my food. Just like that being a propaganda that I bought into. And now I, I mean, I salt beyond belief and I drink it all day.
Starting point is 00:12:33 I mean, I drink element all day long. It's always in my water. So hydrogen filling up. Yay, I got it. I put them in every single- I bought these filters to put at the house that you attach. You can put them under the sink or you can attach them to a faucet, but they give you hydrogen water as well as other kinds of water as well.
Starting point is 00:12:54 So I think that being hydrated is probably the most important thing. And as far as food goes, eating clean and good, but you want to eat as close to the race as possible. How did you do it on the road though? I mean, I had a bus driver and he would be in charge of making food for me before, only meal he'd make was before the race. And that's just because I was at a driver's meeting, I was busy doing meet and greets and different things.
Starting point is 00:13:15 And then I need to basically eat, get changed and go to driver intros. So I didn't have time to make it. So he would, and it would always be just kind of something simple like sweet potatoes or rice and chicken and something like that. You know what's interesting is the simplicity in food is where the magic is. You know I have a chef now too and my wife loves to cook and very often like the fewer ingredients you put in like you take a ribeye, put it in some grass-fed butter, throw some Baja Gold sea salt on it, maybe some rosemary, like the best thing you ever eat.
Starting point is 00:13:46 And I think we overcomplicate food and, you know, the industry is like selling us all these sauces with seed oils and we're putting seed oils on top of saturated fat and combining that with high glycemic carbohydrates. And I think fundamentally, most Americans want to be healthy and would prefer to eat nutritious food, but truly just don't know where to start. I agree. 100% agree. And I think that, you know, we didn't run our way here,
Starting point is 00:14:12 but we sort of walked our way into this position. But when you start to look at the national security risk of having three quarters of our military-age men and women unable to serve in the military due to poor health or when you look at 74% of our nutritional research being funded by by yeah that's a problem food companies and i'm not immediately painting them a sinister i'm just saying that you can't have private industry funding public policy initiatives because there's obviously an agenda if i funded it i would try to get my podcast, you know, somehow. You know, it's just you have to take away that conflict of interest. It's never going to work out. You know, and similarly in IndyCar, actually, there was a big controversy with the team Penske. They were found to be illegal in qualifying. So they've been put
Starting point is 00:14:59 to the back and now they've got huge penalties. Well, Roger Penske owns a team. He also owns a series and he owns the track. And so you like look at this and you're like, and I'm not saying that's why, but look, conflict of interest and optics matter, they matter. And so- But what do they get put to the back for? There must have been something tangible.
Starting point is 00:15:14 For it being illegal, having an illegal part, yeah. Oh, really? Illegal modification. Really? Illegal modification. Illegal modification, okay. So, you know, I feel like this, there's a lot of hope and inspiration around this MAHA movement within the administration,
Starting point is 00:15:31 because I certainly feel, and I wonder if you do too, that now our public policy leaders, these mission purpose driven policy leaders, really do have the best interests of the American people at heart. And what are some of the fundamental changes that you would love to see, that you would be a champion of in nutritional and health care guidance? Mm hmm. For guidelines wise? Guidelines. Well, I think the food pyramid is where you start.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Everything needs to be flipped upside down. Yeah, exactly. I'd be happy to design it. I'd add some red wine in there. But you mean you don't believe that Lucky Charms is more nutritious than grass-fed steak? Hmm, I mean, just that. I thought that was a joke. Maybe if you eat the mushroom,
Starting point is 00:16:11 I mean, the marshmallows first. That was, there was like a scale of like, what's the most healthy and not, it was in a pyramid. But that, when that came out last year, was that last year? I thought it was a joke. I thought it was a joke too, when Joe Rogan talked about it.
Starting point is 00:16:24 And I was like, no, this is legit. You have to be kidding me. You have to be an idiot to believe it. Yeah, but sadly I think very often, the consumer is not educated. I don't mean that they're poorly educated in general. We're not educated in school and grammar school. We're not really taught how to eat.
Starting point is 00:16:46 We're not taught about the fundamental basics of exercise. You know, you ever see the movies from the 50s where they just show recess during like, Robert F. Kennedy, you know, his administration. It's like, play, find the fat person. You know, they were out on monkey bars and climbing walls and recess was 90 minutes. Oh man, well, now you've got phones. It's a a big problem and you've got video games and things like that and so it's a
Starting point is 00:17:09 It's it's it's a sedentary activity, which is not good when you were a professional athlete Did you see them that other you know athletes? Around you did you see the ones that were hyper intentional about their nutrition, their exercise? And then you see some that were sort of kind of took it for granted and just let youth and... Yeah, yeah I did. Of course, yeah you saw the difference. And I'm not saying that their performance was necessarily... I mean there were some great drivers that did not care at all about they drank their cokes and did their thing. I just think that there will be a long-term payoff.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Our bodies are miraculous. You know that better than anybody. It's amazing what they can overcome and how it can heal itself and correct and overcompensate, but that will run out. You will end up sick. You will end up miserable and you can spend money on your health now, or you can do it all later. And so you can go for the quality of life and spend it now and enjoy your food, delicious food.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Or you can be oblivious about it and go sit in a hospital because that's all you're going to do because you're sick and you can't move or you need a hip replacement or whatever the consequences of your actions. And I think it's far wiser, obviously, to take care of yourself now. Health should really be, I'm so grateful for modern medicine. I'm grateful for acute medicine. I hope that no one gives me like rosemary or lavender
Starting point is 00:18:35 after I've been in an accident and have an arm hanging off. I hope they're not gonna try and fix me that way. But I really think that health in general should be understood from a cultural shift standpoint. This is a daily discipline. It is a daily discipline to take care of yourself. And if you need modern medicine, God forbid, it's there for you,
Starting point is 00:18:54 but this is not the solution. What are some of the non-negotiable habits that you've developed either as a professional athlete that carry over into your life now, or that you've developed post-professional career that are sort of non-negotiable into your life now or that you've developed post professional career that are sort of non-negotiable in your life? I mean, I'm just going to be really simple. I could go down a long list of various different things I do, but I think from a simple standpoint, eat your protein and lift weights. I love it. I love it. I heard Dr. Gabrielle Linus,
Starting point is 00:19:24 I can hear her clap it in the background. You can hear her. We hear Dr. Gabrielle Lyne is like, I can hear her clapping in the background. You can hear her. Yeah, I can hear her. We hear you, Gabrielle. I mean, she's got me into the best shape I've ever been in my life. Really? And I'm 43.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Best body composition, best biology, best everything. You know what I think she's done is she's- And I always knew that was possible. She's been a champion for women lifting weights, which I think was always a man thing. And- I lift so much weight. Like, I mean, I'm doing like weighted pull-ups
Starting point is 00:19:47 and huge trap bar deadlifts yesterday. And, you know, I weigh 105 pounds. Like it's pretty hard to get real, real bulky. Yeah. That's the girl especially. That was the one of the myths. We have a 10th of the testosterone of you guys, you know? Like it's pretty hard to get like super bulky.
Starting point is 00:20:03 So yeah, I'd say from a simple standpoint, those are the two most important things. If you prioritize protein, but on my way here today, I flew here, I left the house and I made five eggs for breakfast. That's what I have for breakfast. Wow. Which is 350 calories.
Starting point is 00:20:16 It's 35 grams of protein, 35 grams of protein and 25 grams of fat, done. Yeah. Can you hear how much energy I have? And you feel amazing right now, right? And you actually don't, and you feel full, but you don't feel bloated and drained. Like a lot of times you put those high glycemic carbohydrates
Starting point is 00:20:31 into your gut and you actually feel your mood, your emotional state, and your energy goes right out the window. You always know what's good for you and what's not. For a long time, I've loved figuring things out and learning about myself, and I did these blood tests that showed the eggs were highly reactive in my blood So there was probably seven or eight years
Starting point is 00:20:49 I didn't eat them really but they never made me feel bad when I did and I was like, huh? Well, I'm following the science. I'm following the science, right? And now I eat three to five a day and I'm the best I've ever been so but yet on another note Let's say like I can eat broccoli and that's fine, but cauliflower seems to make me feel bloated. So like your body tells you what it needs. And it's very hard to make a diet out of that, right? We're all individually unique.
Starting point is 00:21:13 So all I'm gonna say is that the best way to know what's meant for you is that, again, this is actually parallel to what we talked about before we started, which is what gives you energy, like people that give you energy versus depleted. Like if you eat a food and it gives you energy and helps you feel like your stomach does no discomfort, good for you.
Starting point is 00:21:31 If you feel tired or bloated, not good for you. Just make it that simple. Is it amazing how myopic and out of touch we've gotten with our own bodies? I find that the more intuitive people are more intuitive also about their own bodies. I mean, because it signals to you. We often think that the things that we're allergic to are the ones that immediately flare up our nose
Starting point is 00:21:50 or make our eyes water or give us the snivels. But the truth is, you know, a lot of these things after we eat them, you get the bloating, the weight gain, the water retention, the gas, the, you know, the cramping, the constipation. Those are signs that your body doesn't like what you're eating. And I completely agree with you. There's no one dogmatic diet that is good for everybody. That's right. Because I've tried them all.
Starting point is 00:22:13 The Blue Zones proved this too. No dogmatic diet. It wasn't like, hey, everybody that was on keto or paleo or pescatarian or vegan or vegetarian, they lived the longest. No, it was actually the people that ate whole foods that actually were genetically compatible with their biome so simple We love to complicate things don't we we sure do meaning making machines. Yeah, I want to move on to um biohacking because You know I'm I'm called a biohacker. I call myself a biohacker
Starting point is 00:22:39 I don't even really truly know what it means, but well I mean Dave Asprey came up with the term Yeah, Dave Asprey did coin the term. He was a... Hacking your biology. Love Dave. You must know Dave. I love Dave. I love Dave so much.
Starting point is 00:22:51 He's my favorite weirdo. I'm a weirdo too. He's my favorite weirdo too. But he was in tech. He was in computers and he was like fat and out of shape and tried to work out all the time and eat vegan and couldn't figure out why he couldn't lose weight. And he's like, I need to like hack the body. I need a bio hack. That's it I mean, that's what means you're just hacking the body with biology, but biological natural options. So there any bio hacks
Starting point is 00:23:15 That you use on a regular basis red light therapy cold plunging sauna. Yeah What do you like for love? I mean for probably the most normal one I use is red light Okay, and I like them huge fan a huge fan I mean, probably the most normal one I use is red light. And I like them. I'm a huge fan. A huge fan. I did it this morning to a panel at my mom and dad's house, which is where I was. I've got everybody red lights.
Starting point is 00:23:33 They live in Indianapolis. So I flew in this morning, but they have two panels, one in front and one in back. I gave them so just stand there. And while I'm doing it, because I love to stack, habit stack, atomic habits, I love to stack, I guasha while I'm doing it and do some lymphatic drainage. So I think those are my two daily favorite things, red light and lymphatic stuff. So guasha is like where you take like a crystal of some sort, or it could be stainless steel or rock. Kind of like a face roller?
Starting point is 00:24:06 It's like a face roller, but it's more of a plate, and you drag it, and it helps with drainage of your face. But then I go all the way down the neck to basically to here because, I mean, it kind of started because when I said that I was not always so healthy, I had breast implants. And they- You had them removed. Had them removed, and that's when everything finally got better again. Well, it was at least the start of it,
Starting point is 00:24:26 but I just, so I go literally down below my boobs and then at the end of doing the gua shaing, then I hit the six points, the lymphatic points behind the ear, collarbone, under the armpit, stomach, groin, and behind the knees. It's amazing. And so I just sort of rub and tap.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Yeah. And by time that's over, 10 minutes is done in front of the red light and... Yeah. Some of these ancient Ayurvedic practices, of rub and tap. And by time that's over, 10 minutes is done in front of the red light. Some of these ancient Ayurvedic practices, you know, Ayurvedic medicine is the oldest form of medicine that we know of. It's even older than Chinese medicine, at least as far as we know. And it was based on observation. And a lot of what these Indian practitioners recognized was you could diagnose illness and disease through the tongue, through the eyes, through the skin.
Starting point is 00:25:05 And what they did was they really started to enhance lymphatic drainage, exactly what you're talking about. Because the lymph system is static, right? There's no pressure behind it, like the heart, you know, like the veins and arteries. So I love the idea of habit stacking. Maybe you and I are gonna trademark the term biostacking.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Biostacking, I love that. I love that too. Dave,. Maybe you and I are gonna trademark the term bio stacking. Bio stacking, I love that. I love that too. Your terms already outdated, buddy. We're gonna build one. It'll be red light with a little, maybe we'll have a little jump, a little tramp on the bottom because at the end I jump as well just to like really do the full flush.
Starting point is 00:25:37 And yeah, well, yeah, we can come up with something. I'm sure I love to dream up ideas and companies. I like that too. I wanna take a quick one minute diversion and I wanna go back to the breast implant illness because it is now being recognized as one of the underlying causes in so many forms of chronic disease and unknown etiologies
Starting point is 00:25:59 that are causing autoimmune conditions. And I think what happens is a lot of young women especially get breast implants because the symptoms of breast implant illness don't show up for months to years. They don't correlate it back to the breast implant. And I'm not saying by any means that they're all bad and they're all causing disease. But as somebody who has a fairly large female audience,
Starting point is 00:26:25 it resonates very much with them because I've had hundreds and hundreds of clients that have seen autoimmune and this strange myriad of symptoms, everything from brain fog to hormone imbalance to weight gain and water retention, to fatigue, to crushing joint pain, to a lot of these, what I would call blanket diagnoses, irritable bowel syndrome, fibromyalgia. It's anything. Chronic fatigue syndrome.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Anxiety. What really are those? Depression, exhaustion. What was the trigger for you when you said? Yeah, how did I kind of identify? Well, I would say that it probably took about three years for me to really start noticing anything and I gained like five pounds out of nowhere. Were you highly athletic during this time frame? Yeah, this is when I like just retired too and I'm like, that doesn't really make sense because I've kind of been doing all the same stuff. It's like one
Starting point is 00:27:22 thing if you take away like a huge activity every weekend, 40 weeks a year and go, well, maybe that's it. My hair wasn't doing so healthy. My face was starting to get more puffy. I'm like, this isn't how my face looks. And I thought to myself, maybe my hormones are off. That was like the first thing I thought. But instead, I dug deeper and I tried harder and I ate different,
Starting point is 00:27:42 ate more vegan, ate less at times, worked out more, like, you know, all of the things that I would normally, the lever I'd pull didn't work anymore. And then it was when I was beginning of 2021 and I lost my cycle. And so, and then when I lost my cycle, I was like, all right, this isn't healthy. So I went to the doctor and they're like low thyroid.
Starting point is 00:28:00 And I was like, that answers everything. That was not the answer to it. It was the tip of the iceberg. And so that kind of started the journey. And I spent about, that answers everything. That was not the answer to it. It was the tip of the iceberg. And so that kind of started the journey. And I spent about a year and a half. And then I'd say it was probably when I watched enough videos on YouTube and caught these sort of people talking
Starting point is 00:28:17 about breast implant illness and what happened, how they felt, and then afterwards. And I was like, the things that they were saying just resonated, right? You were like, those are my symptoms. I sensed the authenticity coming off of them. And I was like, it resonated with mine. And I was like, uh, it became like a knowing.
Starting point is 00:28:32 I was like, okay, that's it, that's it. And so then I got them out. But I'd say it three years, I kind of knew. And then it took about seven years before I really, before I was like, okay, this is what I need to do. So I had them in for seven and a half years. You got them in for seven and a half years. And how quickly after the removal did things turn?
Starting point is 00:28:50 Hours, like right, as soon as I got home. As soon as I got home, I like, maybe my face is shiny, I'm not sure, but like that never happened. I came home and the first thing, like I remember once I finally came out of my drug haze, from being under anesthesia, I remember just watching TV and I touched my face and I was like, oh my God, I have oil on my face. Wow.
Starting point is 00:29:10 And my scalp was another thing that had been so dry and my hair wasn't growing. So anyway, my body started to function again, like within hours. So then two days later, I posted on Instagram about it, which obviously I never told anyone I got them in. And I just knew my mom was with me and I was like, should I do it, mom?
Starting point is 00:29:28 And she was like, you're gonna probably do it anyway. I'm like, you're right, mom. And so I shared it and Good Morning America was at my house at the end of the week. Six days after I got them out, Good Morning America was at the house with my doctor and I talking about it for morning television.
Starting point is 00:29:43 So, yeah. Good for you for being involved about that. For women that are watching this that maybe are just starting to clue into this, that this might be, is there anywhere they can go to get guidance or information? I mean, if you just look up breast implant illness, if you just sort of look, I mean, I have stuff that I've kept on my Instagram page about it, but there's a lot of resources out there now, just I'd say start Googling and YouTubing and you'll see a ton.
Starting point is 00:30:08 I shared my story so you can find that YouTube video. But yeah, all I'd say is that, you talked about the list of symptoms, it's anything. It's basically your own body's personal expression of I'm not happy. Wow. Right, and everybody's different because we have different pathways, different detoxification pathways, different diets, different exercise. It's basically your own body's personal expression of I'm not happy. Wow. Right?
Starting point is 00:30:25 And everybody's different because we have different pathways, different detoxification pathways, different diets, different exercise. So like not everyone's is the same. So my personal expression was just how my body expresses discomfort. Yeah. Danica, Patrick, thank you so much for coming on the Ultimate Human. I can't believe we're here at the White House. You know, part of this mom movement is amazing.
Starting point is 00:30:43 It's such a blessing to be on the journey with great people and influencers like yourself. So thank you for giving us the time today. Let's talk about that business idea. Yeah, until next time, that's just science.

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