The Ultimate Human with Gary Brecka - 87. Daymond John: Shark Tank Star Reveals His Ultimate Health Transformation

Episode Date: August 13, 2024

Ever wonder how top entrepreneurs stay at the top of their game? In this episode of the Ultimate Human podcast host Gary Brecka and co-host Sage Workinger hear from Daymond John on how he transformed his health. The most powerful part? Daymond said being healthier has improved every area of his life - from his marriage to his business acumen. He shares how your body is your most valuable asset. Making small, consistent changes - your future self will thank you. Tune in to this amazing podcast and ask yourself what small change can you make today to improve your health and, by extension, your business? Get any of Daymond John's books: "Power of Broke," "Rise and Grind," and "Powershift" here: https://theultimatehuman.com/book-recs Listen to Daymond John’s "That Moment" podcast weekly on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4dEFhuZ For more information on Daymond John visit: https://bit.ly/3YCKrDj Follow Daymond John on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3YECY6Y Follow Daymond John on Instagram: https://bit.ly/4dAkvfN Follow Daymond John on Facebook: https://bit.ly/3WB4DTz Follow Daymond John on TikTok: https://bit.ly/3Wy5VP8 Follow Daymond John on LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/3WX98JB Follow Daymond John on X.com: https://bit.ly/3SI0Y50 00:00 ​Intro 02:48 ​Daymond’s Teaching of Financial Literacy and Psychology of Money to His Children 10:19 ​Daymond’s Health Journey with Gary (Metabolic Syndrome) 18:01 ​The Psychology of Finding Happiness in Your Goal-Setting 26:01 ​Changing One’s Mindset and Habits 29:35 ​Vitamins/Supplements Industry vs. Fast Food Industry 31:35 ​Changes in Daymond John’s Life  41:00 ​The Impact of Scientific Advancements  42:24​ 80-20 Rule 44:23 ​Gamifying on Facts and Data  47:01 ​Daymond’s Business Strategy on His Various Businesses 50:10 ​The Ultimate Human Podcast’s Initial Objectives  55:10 ​Final Question: “What does it mean to you to be an Ultimate Human?” Get weekly tips from Gary Brecka on how to optimize your health and lifestyle routines: https://bit.ly/4eLDbdU PLUNGE - Use code “Ultimate” for $150 off your order of the best cold plunge & sauna in the US: https://bit.ly/3yYE3vl EIGHT SLEEP - Use code “GARY” to get $350 off Pod 4 Ultra: https://bit.ly/3WkLd6E ECHO GO PLUS HYDROGEN WATER BOTTLE: https://bit.ly/3xG0Pb8 BODY HEALTH - Use code “ULTIMATE10” for 10% OFF YOUR ORDER: https://bit.ly/4cJdJE7 Discover top-rated products and exclusive deals. Shop now and elevate your everyday essentials with just a click!: https://theultimatehuman.com/amazon-recs Watch “The Ultimate Human Podcast with Gary Brecka” every Tuesday and Thursday at 9AM ET on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3RPQYX8 Follow The Ultimate Human on Instagram: https://bit.ly/3VP9JuR Follow The Ultimate Human on TikTok: https://bit.ly/3XIusTX Follow The Ultimate Human on Facebook: https://bit.ly/3Y5pPDJ Follow Gary Brecka on Instagram: https://bit.ly/3RPpnFs Follow Gary Brecka on TikTok: https://bit.ly/4coJ8fo Follow Gary Brecka on Facebook: https://bit.ly/464VA1H The Ultimate Human with Gary Brecka Podcast is for general informational purposes only and does not constitute the practice of medicine, nursing or other professional health care services, including the giving of medical advice, and no doctor/patient relationship is formed. The use of information on this podcast or materials linked from this podcast is at the user’s own risk. The Content of this podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical condition they may have and should seek the assistance of their health care professionals for any such conditions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

My goal initially was I wanted to get down to fit into my Shark Tank season one outfit and I failed at those goals for three years. When I started changing my goal from getting into that suit to seeing myself alive and healthy and walking my three little girls down the aisle, the alcohol was done. I didn't need it. I spent millions more because of that lifestyle and I could have put that on this lifestyle. Dude, you flicked that switch though. I will give it to you. You were all in and all out. Sugars are normalized.

You're no longer insulin resistant or pre-diabetic. You're no longer hyper triglyceride-y. Your blood pressure is normalized. The immune system is strengthened. And what we did was, I gotta tell you something because I'm in so many businesses. You being a successful entrepreneur today

does not mean you'll be a successful entrepreneur tomorrow. And you being healthy today does not mean tomorrow. Talk a little bit about your strategy for managing so many disparate type business. Time is something you can never get back. The more successful people get, the more no's, the more times they say no. Because you have to hey guys welcome back to the ultimate human podcast where we go down the road

everything anti-aging longevity biohacking and everything in between. Today, I have an incredible guest, one that you guys all know and probably love. He's an entrepreneur. He's an author, an investor. He's a well-known TV personality, probably wants to be most well-known for being a father of three children. You know him from his iconic brands. He started the brand FUBU in 1992, where most of you guys were still in the womb. He's won numerous awards, including the Brand Week Marketer of the Year, the NAACP Entrepreneurs of the Year Award, which I think he won twice, the Advertising Age Marketing Award, Crane's New Business, 40 Under 40, all of these these awards I just want to give you the proper introduction It's actually my wife, Sage Workinger

Thank you Thank you very much Welcome to the podcast My good friend, Damon John Thank you, thanks Sage Thank you for coming on We've had quite a journey over the last Two years

We have, we've had an amazing, amazing journey We've had quite a journey over the last two years. We have. We've had an amazing, amazing journey. I've been watching your journey, how the world has discovered you. And then you helped me discover myself. Yeah. I mean, I want to talk about the health journey. I also want to talk about, I actually want to talk about your influence of children and finances as well, because you and I spoke, I mean, I've watched you on Shark Tank for years. I mean, obviously you're brilliant. I think you have an amazing communication

style and you distill, like I do in the human body, complicated information about business down to bite-sized pieces that the audience can engage in and understand. I think it's a very special skill. But something I didn't know about you that I was really struck by a few months ago, we both spoke at Lauren Redinger's conference. It was marketamericashop.com. And I see a lot of speakers. I listen to a lot of topics. I'm in a lot of events, but I took notes from that talk. Really? Wow. And I was super captivated by it. And the story that I would love for you to share is,

you talked about how you're teaching your youngest, your daughter, about finances and the bank account and the checking and the things they're not teaching in school. Yeah. And so tell me a little bit about that. What are you doing with your kids to create financial literacy? You know, well, I teach other importance of money. Um, but you know, um, also it's the psychology around money and what do you, what are you purchasing and why are you purchasing, but

to know how it works as a structure. Right. And,? And the best way to say this is that, you know, we're not taught about money in school. And actually, it's a taboo. You know, and you have this theory that once you get it, you can keep it. Once you get it, it'll solve your problems. And it's very hard to get it. And those who have it are assholes. That's so true.

I take great offense to that. Well, a lot of but you know um but the simplest way to say this is it is it is a learned behavior uh it is something that must start young right because you don't you don't teach a child how to play sports at 19 and put them right on the field or her you know with anybody you don't teach them how to play an instrument and put them right in an orchestra you know right at 20 at and you teach them at 20. But that's kind of what life does to them. Right, right. And so, you know, if you learn and understand, and the best way to explain how you operate $3, whether $3 comes in the house, 300, 3 billion, right? The first dollar goes for

what you have to pay for to live. The second is supposedly an investment, whatever that investment is, right? In your health or in a public market or whatever the case is. And the third is what you would like to have but don't have to have, right? And if you don't spend all of number three, it goes into number two. And what happens is over the years, number two compounds and it flows into one and three. Why? two and what happens is over the years number two compounds and it flows into one and three but we as hard-working americans who uh are are marketed by predatory uh you know payday loans slash accounts such of that nature or we watch and everything is no money down of course right and it's really not no money down and not knowing that one or two points it will change your entire life from your mores to anything else well what do we do we work hard

we usually buy and go and do number three first we never get to number two and then we pay 18 percent or 24 percent on credit cards for number one it corrodes the whole system now if you don't learn financial intelligence in school the bottom line is today's kids who graduates from college 50 of them will retire with a job title that doesn't exist today right that's like telling somebody you're going to be a drone operator or a pay-per-click expert 20 years ago they say what the fuck is that right right so now no financial intelligence at 16 years old you or 17 years old you will be applying for 700 000 worth of student debt for a career that you're not sure you want to have that you won't pay up until your 50s let's get back to what gary

does because what happens then is if you don't have money, well, the cheapest things to consume in this country are made out of butter, sugar, and salt. Amen. Right? Oh, my gosh. Well, what happens then? Now you're on this other curve of trying to solve a problem that exists with high blood pressure

and various other things like that. Domestic violence rises. Wow. You turn children from the cribs to corrections instead of cribs to college because what happens when they don't have an education or they need money? They go and pick up a gun or an instrument, right? Global warming too. If you don't have enough education, the number one way to stop global warming is educate women by the age of 12 13 14 if you educate a woman a girl by the age of 12 13 14 she starts to think about things that

she wants to do for her and her career in life instead of having two three four five children that increases the population it all comes down to money and how old is your daughter now i have three daughters 130 125 and 17 and and and the seven-year-old she's enrolled in this program right she's enrolled in this program um she's starting to learn because what i explained to her was that money is freedom and that three you know that's the number three so we we basically break down her money at the end of the year so what happens is she gets an allowance or well no after all what she at the end of the year. So what happens is... She gets an allowance or something? Well, no.

After all, what she collects at the end of the year, gifts, whatever, tooth fairy. I mean, the tooth fairy... What's a tooth fairy paying nowadays, by the way? Well, the tooth fairy... It's 25 cents when I lost my last tooth. Inflation's got to have that. Binomics got to have that. I got $4 for all my teeth and my tonsils.

Our tooth fairy was creative and did $2 bills. Wow. Those were rare. Those have actually appreciated. My daughter had $300 the end of this year. So we said, we brought down $300. Give me $100. That's for your rent, for food. She was like, in her mind, she's like, who gives a shit

whatever it is. Okay. Number two is an investment, right? So at first, we you want a shell company this time she bought beads right and she made right and then uh number three you can spend that on on what this is freedom what is freedom daddy you can spend on whatever you want giving it to people that don't have anything uh freedom could be that you can pay uh and uh pay for art materials. Or you know what? Baby, freedom is you get paid for whatever you would do for free or whatever you would buy. You can sell.

You can spend time home. She says, I want a pet. What do you want? A giraffe. Okay. A giraffe. Can't fit it in the house. I don't think you can get a decent giraffe for $100.

Not really. Not really. Yeah, I don't know what the going rate is. But we told her, we got her down to a betta fish. We went to. I don't know what the going rate is. We got her down to a beta fish. We went to the store. She picked up the beta fish. I got her down. Somehow we knew that was where we were going to go.

We got the beta fish home, and she didn't realize. I said, baby, that's freedom. She said, what do you mean? I said, you don't have to wait for your birthday. You don't have to wait for Christmas. You pick the fish. I didn't have to bring it home. It's your fish.

And then she realized what happened. Wow. And now there's a whole other new set of responsibilities you can teach her about she has to take care of the fish but now all of a sudden she started making these because now she wants to um you know make money i like i did this really big thing you know i had a lot of great celebrities at it uh it's called black oxman news day icy coco all our friends right she's now making these bees and instead I said Don't try to sell it to anybody

Because your daddy's a little girl They'll probably feel pressure She said I said just ask them What they think it's worth She made these custom beads Behind the scenes She made $400

No way I'm a buyer I want one I'll take one for Christmas Yeah I'm a buyer And then she said I want to give one

I have Flavor Flav there I said he's a legend She said I want to give Flavor I had Flavor Flav there. I said, he's a legend. She said, I want to give Flavor Flav, you know, one. She gave it to him. Did she have a clock bead? Huh? No, no. But she gave it to him and then she said to him, $20. I said, you can figure out how to give it

to him. You were like, that's daddy's little girl. That's daddy's little girl. My first one was Little Damon Learns to Earn. The next one's going to be little Minka needs to pause. Because she's just getting a little aggressive. You're going to create a little monster there. I'd rather pull her back a little bit. No, I love it.

Good for her for going out and asking what she wants. Yes. She deserves that. I'm sure you love that too. So, you know, I said I wanted to talk about our health journey. And I hope you're okay with that. Of course, man. I'm watching the numbers.

We could cut it out of the podcast. No, hit the numbers. Let's get to the numbers baby yeah numbers right here um because you know and the reason why I like to talk about the health journey that that um we've had with with so many of our podcast guests is because I really think by educating the audience um and inspiring them to make a change you know you, you can, this is when real transformation happens. You know, just like your financial story with your daughter. It became very real to her. And now the impetus is coming from her, right?

I mean, and you just put the guard rails there. Now she's a little entrepreneur. Look out, man, my money's on her. If I could buy her stock now, I could buy the next John at the low. But, you know, I've had so many guests on the podcast. And these are, you know, celebrities, entertainers, you know, wealthy entrepreneurs like yourself. And the message that I really want to convey is not that it is expensive to make these changes, not that you need

all kinds of fancy equipment to make these changes. It's that you have to be inspired to make a transformation in your life and you need data. And so when we first met, it was a little over two years ago, we, we got some data. Um, and I remember you sat down and you said, you know, I want to lose some weight. I've got a little brain fog. I want to get, I want to, I want to get my blood checked out. And you were not in particularly bad shape. You were not a mess. I mean, you were top of your career. You're still killing it on shark tank. You're traveling, you're, you're an entrepreneur, you're speaking. But when we started to take a look in your, in, in your blood work. You had something called metabolic syndrome. And I talk about this a lot because it is a silent killer

that begins now at an earlier and earlier age. And it's a combination of any one of the five of, or any two of the five of high insulin, hyperinsulinemia, high blood pressure, a little bit of abdominal obesity, high triglycerides, low HDL cholesterol, and high blood sugars. At that time, you had five of the five. Nice.

Yeah, well, hey. If you're going to do wrong, do wrong right. Do wrong right. But it's a very common thing. I mean, this is not abnormal anymore unfortunately but i think this podcast is very much about bringing awareness to it because not a lot of people realize that that's going on you know and bringing in a simplistic way where we all just get it yes exactly and then finding those solutions through what we are trying to do is find solutions through

very natural means not expensive people see are going to do is find solutions through very natural means, not expensive. People are going to see you on the podcast and go, oh, well, he's got money. Yeah, he's got money. You know, he bought a $150,000 light bed. I can't afford that, so I'm not even going to think about it. So I'm not even going to try. But it really was a mindset set change. It is all a mindset.

Dude, you flick that switch, though. I will give it to you. You were all in and all out. I mean, the lights went on. I mean. I will give it to you. You were all in and all out. I mean, the lights went on. I mean, I will give it to you. Want direct access to me so I can personally answer your most pressing health questions? Then I'm excited to offer you free access to my premium membership, the Rule Brekkas. As a Rule Brekka, you'll be able to join me for monthly Q&A sessions,

VIP access to all the challenges I host, and advanced access to my most exclusive content. To get your free 30-day trial of Rule Brekkas, head over to joinrulebrekkas.com. That's joinrulebrekkas.com right now. Now let's get back to the Ultimate Human Podcast. Talk a little bit about that journey, because then I want to summarize where you are now. For the record, you have a none of the five, right? Sugars are normalized, right? In fact, your blood sugar is even a little on the low side. Hemoglobin A1c from 5.9 down to 5.2.

Perfect. You're no longer insulin resistant or pre-diabetic. You have normal insulin, normal levels of blood sugar. You're no longer hypertriglyceride, meaning you don't have elevated high triglycerides, high amounts of blood fat. Your blood pressure is normalized. Immune system strengthened.

Your thyroid is literally perfect. Your thyroid labs look great. And I had cancer. Remember, I had cancer, yeah. Oh, I did not know that. And what we did was, as little intervention as possible, but the majority of it came from diet and lifestyle changes. And I don't want people to think,

well, we made them a raw food vegan overnight. Nope. No. We cut out the high glycemic sugars and mainly the non-organic whites, white flour, white rice, white bread, white pasta, white potatoes. We got all of that out of the diet. And we were very judicious about carbohydrates.

And so tell me a little bit about how much weight came off. How are you feeling? Yeah, you know, amazing. I dropped, and I got to tell you, the main thing you said, I dropped alcohol. I dropped about, I think I dropped 40, I dropped about 45 pounds. I'm down about 30 now. No, about 35. But I made small adjustments, really small.

And I think the first thing to tell people is like you just said, you can't afford a cold plunge tub. You can get these cold plunge things on Amazon for $100. You know, you just put, oh, you can take a cold ass shower. You'll figure it out, right? You know, you can't get that equipment. I was on the road.

What I started doing, well, I started feeling lighter, right? I started having more energy. So I started increasing my amount of pushups and I just increased my amount of steps, right? But I think it's the same as entrepreneurship, right? You look at building this company. So I can never build this big company. You just got to take one step. And when the one step you start to see it happening and I started to not eat late, I just changed my diet. I remember that. And instead of the bread, I just didn't do the bread. I stopped yearning for it. Now, is it a fix always? No, I still crave sugar because when I stopped the alcohol, I crave sugar.

I don't know why. Yeah, we talked a little bit about that too. Partially because of the dopamine reward, right? I mean, a lot of our sugar receptors are directly related to dopamine rewards in the brain. In fact, if you look at the chemical nature, the chemical composition of a lot of artificial sweeteners, only a very small portion of that sweetener is actually designed to ding the sweet receptor. The majority of it is meant to ding the dopamine response. This is why most people don't like sugar. They are addicted to sugar. Yeah. And our brain is nasty, man. What the brain wants, the brain gets. It's like the little Kim

Jung-un of dictators. It sits up there. It takes everything for itself, right? I mean, if it wants calcium, it'll leach it from the bones. If it wants amino acids, it'll strip it from lean muscle. And if it wants sugar, it'll activate a special receptor on the back of the tongue. I think it's called the RF1A2 receptor and boom, give you a dopamine reward. You know what happens also?

I think that we don't talk about it. The psychology of it, about it the psychology of it whether it's psychology or money psychology or relationships you start having different conversation with different people you even have different conversation with the same people but you didn't know they were into that same stuff because they just didn't want to be judgmental and they start saying oh you know what i found out oh you know what i found oh you know what and you start finding new ways to find happiness and satisfaction in what you're doing. You know, what's the old saying?

Nothing tastes as good as skinny feels. Yeah, Dana White said that. Was it Dana? Yeah, Dana White said that too. And I'm telling you, you start feeling lighter. You start feeling better about your relationship. You look better in your clothes. But the goal needs to be very clear.

And I'm going to tell you the goal right because my goal initially was i wanted to get down to fit into my shark tank season one outfit and i do these goal setting and i failed at those goals for three years but when because i would see myself in an outfit but naturally what happens you get into that red dress that you will you got into in college or when you make that that man of yours or you know over in your life and then you know what you go back to whatever you'd oh i hit it when i started changing my goal from getting into that suit to seeing myself alive and healthy and walking my three little girls down the aisle the alcohol was done i didn't need it i never took because every time i looked at that glass

that glass looked like death yeah yes and once you quit it really is amazing it's done i don't crave it as much anymore i crave hot tea at night now and listen and other people will say whatever is your thing is your thing i tried but every tuesday every monday one drink this one drink that but as entrepreneurs you know what happens is because we're on the road so much you don't get a release and because we're a type personalities this is the release if you can't do push-ups run you're in planes trains automobile but when i started to replace that with the thought of feeling how they're being around my sex life improved with my wife you know there's a lot of good things happening and then i looked at the downside of it what was the downside of well you can break this

down way better than i can every cow every time i drank my calories would i'm empty calories my metabolism slowed down i want something nice and greasy to fill my stomach. I wake up in the morning groggy. I'm not as efficient. Why am I going to go to the gym? Wait a minute. I'm in a hotel. Did a goddamn dog get into the did a dog get into the minibar? Why am I waking up with orange shit on my fingers? Right. You know, somebody put a Cheeto in my hand when i was asleep and when you do that and you break it down you look at how much more of your life you regain you and i will even talk now i happen to it just doesn't work for me the um what is it called the fasting uh all the time but i never thought of how much time is can is taken up of thinking about food. Thinking about food.

Yes. What time we're gonna get there? What are we eating? What are we gonna eat? And so many meetings and events and things always center around food. And alcohol. And alcohol.

Yeah, I mean, listen. Let's meet for a drink. Let's go for a drink. I'm always gonna be the follow the money guy. Let me tell you something. It's unfortunate, I have one person in the hospice now. She's in her late 50s early 60s She drank herself to death

Because alcohol is something that is celebrated I'm gonna tell you the follow the money of alcohol wasn't around think about how many bars or door or or place to eat or Amusement parks or whatever or ball games think about how boring that would be alcohol's never going away and it's actually some people go what's wrong with you i know yes it's crazy it is a drug that is pushed obviously for and there's a lot of money around it so you shouldn't feel bad for having to tell somebody why you don't want to drink. It's become a thing where if I don't take the offer of a cocktail,

people want to know why. Then there's this whole weird, awkward thing where now they've already got a cocktail in their hand and then you're like, well, I just kind of want water. They're like, water? Whether it's on a commercial, whether it's on buy-in, what are you going to get for holidays you're gonna get bottles right yeah

you're gonna see it in the store and by the way those ads look pretty sexy yeah i don't see people like this on the ads oh my god get another drink they're usually the sexiest people in the world yes and nobody talks about true how your personality can change now oh my god funny enough i i think i actually do get funnier when i'm having a cocktail my mother tells me that i'm funnier when i have a cocktail but some people get angry some people get nasty even your funniness is sometimes embarrassing and you know if you're around and how many times it went with the people who have drank if you think about how many times you wake up and go oh god what did i say how many apology letters do i need to be writing out to them and you know it's

i'm i'm uh taking about 25 30 000 people through a three-day water fast um in a couple in about a week and a half and the last time that i did this i asked them um people after they completed a three-day water fast i said what was the thing that stood out to you the most about the water fast? Just an open-ended question like that. And the majority of people had the same answer. They said, the number of times I thought about food or went to get something to eat when I wasn't hungry. It's so habitual. Like I found myself getting up from my office and walking into the kitchen to get something to eat and i because i was on the water fast i stopped myself but i realized i wasn't actually hungry and had this been any other day i would have just found some cookies pastries pies

brownies cookies crackers i would have taken a little dip of chicken salad on a potato chip and eating it and gone back to my desk and i realized that i got up from my desk four or five or six times during the day and i it just dawned on me yeah how much of my time was committed to just eating the next bite of food and how many times have you said oh it's dinner time we need to eat yeah oh i haven't had dinner it's nine o'clock at night it's okay to go to bed yeah right well you're gonna go to build a t-bone steak on you yeah exactly it's so it's so true being in miami the norm is starting dinner at like 10 11 o'clock at night because you're yeah going out till three four in the morning it really is crazy so it's a lot of times psychology and i think going back to what you're saying when i was ready to lose

the weight or not even lose the weight i wanted to just be aware of what was going on in my life and i saw what was of more value you know if i'm gonna you know how many more how many more am i ever gonna really taste the ultimate greasy cheeseburger right you know or am i gonna be able to not feel hungover or not feel just sluggish or be able to pick up my little girl you know i'm i'm a 55 and now i'm 55 when i had it we were when when we had our daughter i was 47 um you know you gotta have a lot of energy for these little ones right especially this little entrepreneur you created yeah but these are the ones that keep you young yeah and don't you just feel great so anyway bottom line i took a small steps that and i i gotta tell you i think that the years before that i've gone through my

my my i've had healthier times in my life this is not i wasn't always this way actually i wanted i wanted when i was in my early 20s trained trained to be in fitness competitions actually uh life took over with a lot of great success right but it was always the people like oh we're gonna start you off with this i mean they were so it was it was so crazy the things they would say to me to get me there it just wasn't relatable right and then i would i'll just go blank on them i think that is one of the it's people feel intimidated like they have to we're going to put them on a program that's unattainable that they're right they're going to be starving because we're going to not allow them to eat or they're going to have to go on some super strict diet or we're going to make them

go to the gym for three hours a day and that's really not what it's about it is incredible that when you talk to people about their diet especially that a lot of times this is just what they've grown up with it's where did where did you grow up if you grew up in the midwest i have a cousin whose wife is a nutritionist and she's like i didn't know that people ate broccoli unless it was covered in butter and cheese yeah she's like that's just broccoli was in a casserole and that was the only way it was served so if you can change the mindset of people, you know, eat more salads and grilled chicken and watch out for seed oils and don't eat fried food. And they go, oh, don't go to McDonald's or fast food restaurants.

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Now let's get back to the ultimate human podcast. We're at the most connected time in history. And I got to tell you, I run a lot of businesses. This is probably the dumbest time in history because people have the information and they hit number one, which is really great because a lot of marketers market number one. The information is right there. You know, listen, when I was growing up, I couldn't necessarily, I didn't know necessarily all the healthy things, but we had a healthier way of living anyway. There was, I don't know, one Wendy's, you know, I even knew of. Wow. I think at that time, I think there was maybe 200 wendy's

now there's so you're pretty much did a lot of cooking at home all the time right and we didn't have any money yeah you know they had pizza parties in school once a month maybe kids eat pizza now every day yeah right well if you do talk to nutritionists as we as we know this nutritionists will say the habits start you know at, at home. And they say that if you cook with your children, five, six, seven, eight years old, they want to cook with mommy and daddy. Now you have three days of healthy leftovers. Yeah. Right.

They create it. I've been homeschooling our daughter. And one of the main things I'm like, we're having cooking class. And that helps us out because we're very busy and we're constantly. She's actually a great little cook. She is phenomenal. I am like so proud of her. By the way, that's a whole other story,

because the young men and women that I know dating today, they say the women actually don't know how to cook. That's a whole. And the men don't know how to cook. So both of them are looking at each other in the apartment going, well, is it a breeze? They got pulled right to the front door. And I think a lot of people think that fast food is cheap.

It's not cheap anymore. It's very expensive. It's actually very expensive. And that's what I've started to learn is that even going, when you think you're getting a healthy meal somewhere that's fast food, it's expensive. I got to tell you something because I'm in so many businesses. In the vitamin, well, you'll know this.

In the vitamin supplement, I'm not going to name any names, but in that business, a lot of them are obese. Oh, wow. In the fast food business, they're super healthy, most of the executives. Wow. Interesting. Why do you think that is?

Because they know better. Because they know what's in that shit. I have not taken Alina to McDonald's ever in her entire life. I think because when I was pregnant, I had a craving for a burger burger and it made me so violently ill that I it just mindset was like I'm never going again I took her for her first burger which I did not tell him because we were all secretive about it we were on a road trip there was nothing else in this little town in Missouri she had a big mac and fries and she was so sick the whole day. She's like, I will never do it

again. It's like anything else though. You know, there, I mean, there's people that could smoke a pack of cigarettes. You know, I think if I took a drag off a cigarette, I'd be thrown up in the bushes. Your body gets used to that poison. And one of the things we, we try to tell people to do is make very small, consistent changes. And what happens is your taste profile changes because food today is chemically engineered. I mean, processed food is not engineered for nutrition. It's engineered for taste, to ding the dopamine receptors, to also create cravings, to create sugar crashes, which cause more eating.

I mean, it's actually chemically engineered for this. And what happens is people go from a high craving, like a taste profile for processed foods, and they start to eat real foods, grass-fed meats, whole eggs, chicken, avocados. Yeah, you taste the difference. And you taste the difference, but that food doesn't taste real to them initially. And then as we keep them on that plan for eight or 10 weeks, they can't go real to them initially. And then as we keep them on that plan for eight or 10 weeks, they can't go back to processed foods.

They take something out of a wrapper and bite into it. You can taste the chemicals. So now that you've had this, you know, resurgence in, you know, health and energy, you're down 35 pounds or you're down 45. Now you're down 35 pounds. What kind of touch points has that changed in your life? And what's kind of inspiring Dame and John right now?

Well, I mean, what touch points has it changed in my life? Well, first of all, also a lot of other things went away. I would get gout once in a while. I remember that. Right? I haven't had it in two years. Yeah, I would have certain aches. I just didn't know where they were coming from.

And I have the best doctors in the world um they would try to give me pills i mean my i'm still trying to trying to get off of the preface it um and listen and a lot of people all know that this is a whether it is whether it is your relationship whether it is your health whether it is finance this is a you never arrive it is always a new form of learning and you will not be like well i'm here now and i'm good right right um so so but you know i you know what drives me from a are you asking me from a health perspective yeah well i mean now that you've had this health like what are some of the changes that have occurred in your life because you're so much more conscious about my relationship with my wife is much, much better.

Not only because of the lack of drinking, but my wife has always been into fitness, and now we have more commonalities. You know, it's funny. When I first saw your, when we were looking at your hormone profile, I saw your free testosterone was very low. And I said, you know, when this comes back,

Heather's going to need a safe word. She started laughing. Oh, yeah. Gary makes that very awkward dream. She's going to need a safe word because Lupita's coming back like a freight train. She's like, hey, can you tone him down a little bit? I'm clearly the guy around the house with the trench coat and lollipop. Yeah.

But, you know, there's nothing sexier in your life no matter what goal it is and setting a goal with your wife or with your husband. That's so good. A common goal. And a common goal at the end of the day, you know what it is? To be around as much as we can for our little girl and to celebrate the moments of life that we can take away. Also, if you notice, it really started with Cuban, who, by the way, everybody thinks he's quitting the show.

He's not quitting the show now. He's leaving the show after 16. He'll still be on the show for another two years. And will probably be a guest shark down the road as well. But he is doing it to pass the torch on to a lot of people. But he's still there two years. People think it's right now. Started with Cuban.

And now if you really look, Robert always ran a lot. Kevin is down as well. Dramatically in weight. And my friends are all down. And they're like, man, if you can do it with your schedule, we can do it, right? I want to also to talk about a few specifics because a lot of times people are like, okay, great. He had all these changes. What did he do?

And on your side, you know, so we looked into the blood. First thing that I tell people to do is you got to get data, right? It is amazing. Sometimes when you talk to a really passionate entrepreneur, sometimes I'll bring them on stage and I'll say, Hey, you know, what did you, how much money did your company earn last month? $662,440. Wow. Okay. What was your net income? $142,400. Wow. How many employees do you have? 16. What's your revenue for employee? 52,000. What's your hemoglobin A1c? Where's your insulin? What is that? Do you know what your testosterone level is? Blank. Right? We know more about our businesses and our balance sheet and our income statement,

our P&L, than we know about our own bodies. And if people got some data, they could gamify this. So like when we looked at your sugars, glucose is a measure of how much sugar is in your blood. Something called hemoglobin A1C is the three-month average of your blood sugar. This is how they determine whether or not you're normal blood sugar, pre-diabetic or potentially even diabetic. So that was in the pre-diabetic range. The insulin was very high. When insulin is high, it makes it very difficult to burn fat. If you can't burn fat, fat builds up in the blood in the form of triglycerides.

So we used a root called berberine, very safe root. We added this to your supplement protocol and took it with each meal. And the sugars came down like they've fallen off a cliff. We added this to your supplement protocol and took it with each meal. And the sugars came down like they've fallen off a cliff. And I've even seen some evidence in the literature that berberine outperformed metformin, which is the major type 2 diabetes drug, in terms of lowering hemoglobin A1C and insulin. So we made that choice. You started to watch the whites.

And then you started doing activity. I remember you would call me and tell me you were doing pushups and air squats and stuff in your hotel room. Yeah, what was happening was what I did also is I said, you know, we're out of COVID. Why do I need to do all my things on a Zoom on a camera? I'm not doing any more Zoom from nine to 12.

And I would walk casually from when I drop off my daughter. I would walk from 9 to 12 on the phone. I would walk eight miles. There you go. And then all of a sudden, now I've earned my meal. Nice. Then I made the meal. Nice.

All of a sudden, I had my rotator cuffs. Both were torn over the course of the last couple of years. But I have no idea. As the dropping, I was able to increase but I have no idea as to dropping it, I was able to increase the pushups. Now they're totally, totally fine. I started doing stuff like the Eboo machine to dialysis, you know, my blood having normal, you know.

Eboo by the way is a ozone, 10 pass ozone. It's ozone gas. For those of you guys that don't know what Eboo is, it's a phenomenal, phenomenal treatment. It's antiviral um it's anti um uh free radical um you put ozone gas o3 gas into the blood and that that third oxygen molecule is like a missile the free radicals and inflammation there's lots of clinics around the country that do ebu and ozone i started using them the the oxygen mask laying on my PEMF mat, my red panels with you.

Really small change. While I'm on my red panels, I'm reading and I'm listening to music. You know, when I'm laying on the mat, when I'm on the oxygen, because I mean, it may be night or whatever the case is, I'm walking on the treadmill. Right. Right. It's just, it was walking on the treadmill. Right. Right? It's just, it was this, it was very simple adjustments. Right.

And of course, you know, listen, and I still eat McDonald's once in three weeks, maybe. You know, I don't go totally cold turkey. We call it the 80-20 rule. But it also, you know, I don't crave as much junk food. The only issue I have somewhat is sugar, and I'm fighting it, too, you know? Yeah, no, it's good to know that you still struggle, but you're still on this, on this journey. Hey everyone, if you've been tuning into the ultimate human podcast for a while now, you know, I'm very selective about the products that I endorse. I only feature items that I personally use daily to enhance my own health and wellness. One product I use daily is

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So for those of you that are listening, if you're like, well, he bought a PMF mat. Yes, I mean, it's five grand for a PMF mat. You wanna do it for free? Take your shoes off and contact the surface of the earth. Allow your body to discharge into the earth. Earthing and grounding is very real. And God gives it to us every day. We just don't access it. If you have the money and you want the convenience, we'll spend five grand on a PMF mat. It'll help alkalize the cells in your body. If you don't

want to spring five grand for a Hypermax oxygen system, you don't need the Hypermax oxygen system. You can learn to do breath work. You can get outside expose your skin to sunlight and do a round of breath work take your feet touch the surface of the earth free breath i've been i've been doing yoga as well because you know stretching and and listen again yeah i have the access and the resources but you know you don't what money you need for push-ups and air squats? Right. You just need discipline. And like you said, you had all the access to all these doctors. And that's the important part.

I've had this access all my life, not all my life, but a long, long time. I didn't do it. And it wasn't working. Yeah, because it just wasn't something I cared about. But I think we also were able to kind of gamify things. Like when we showed you the labs, I remember you were like, it was like a wake-up call.

And, you know, like a lot of clients, you know, that we work with, you just flicked that switch, man. He went from, you know, a man unpossessed to a man possessed. He was like, I'm on this journey. I've made this commitment. I'm going to set some absolutes. And I think the reward is what I want to, is what I want people to hear, because there's a lot of people who are where you were, they're there now, and they're going, well, what do I have to do to get out of this and feel the way that he does? You know, also I think that even if somebody had,

they were in a different time in their life 10, 20 years ago and they started down this journey. Science has advanced so much in that period of time that when I go to a prenuvo machine that has zero radiation, and I saw that I had a, and a good friend of ours had an aneurysm that came up from their leg, as we all know, the past. And I saw that I had a Baker's cyst aneurysm lump

right in here, and I was heading to Europe, and I was like, I don't I'm not going to know any hospitals in there. But I was able to go down and have that thing checked and know that it was nothing. The mental peace of mind that I have. And so 20 years ago, when even if I had had some of this information, I may not have felt that I would have had enough surrounding people to talk to. The information is there now. Yeah. It's really there. There's so much you can look up for free.

You don't have to necessarily go to an expert. No, you don't. It's right there. You just know how to access it. And also, I like that what you're saying about community, like not just with Heather, but also your friends and the people you work with. And everybody's on this, you know, this journey. When we go out to drink, I mean, we go out to have dinner, four people drinking, four people not. Nobody cares.

And we're having a great time. And you're not evil eyeing them and they're not evil eyeing you. It just is what it is. And that's why I go back to this 80-20 rule. I mean, you don't have to, you know, like sometimes, you know, I'm out of our, niece has a birthday and they pass around a slice of cake. I have a slice of cake. I mean, and they're like, you eat cake?

Oh my God, you eat cake? And I go, not very often, but I'm not going to be that guy that, you know, if you pass, my five-year-old niece is having a birthday party, I'm going to have a couple bites of cake. It is a funny concept that people get nervous around eating or drinking around us now. We're like, please don't.

Yeah, yeah. Please have fun. Please enjoy yourself. We're not judging. Listen, believe it or not, I still go to Golden Corral once in a while. I don't, I just haven't. Golden Corral? I don't think I've ever been to a Golden Corral.

I happen to just take the skin off the chicken. And when they're sitting there carving a real turkey that obviously it may have had some stuff in it from when it was. But that's the kind of turkey we get in other places. They're carving a turkey. I'm not eating the fried popcorn shrimp. Am I grabbing me a nice cupcake when I leave? Yeah. I'm in a hurry.

Cut that out of the podcast, please. But that's what it is Kevin went from drinking three bottles of wine to one bottle of wine and I didn't know how he was drinking three bottles of wine

he dropped 25 pounds so you do it within your own way and maybe I'm sure he'll get to no bottle of wine but that's up to him exactly

you know you just do it in your own way but having the information I think is key because when I saw that information it was very clear you have the right to make up your own opinions but not the right to make up your own way, but having the information, I think, is key. Because when I saw that information, it was very clear.

You have the right to make up your own opinions, but not the right to make up your own facts. Yeah, your blood does not lie. And the facts look really good now. Yeah. Zero metabolic syndrome. Blood sugar is normal. Blood pressure is normal. Your triglycerides, the level of blood fat, is in a beautiful range.

They're 65 for people that know what triglyceride levels are. They shouldn't be above about 149 they're now half of the range immune system is strengthened i mean thyroid looks excellent i mean and and the real story here is everybody sees what's going on on the outside but it's really what's going on on the inside that matters and if you get that data you can gamify it you can can make a choice. And then it starts to have a touch point in every facet of your life. You know, your relationships, your kids, your career. I gotta tell you also, you know what? Life is much cheaper when you're healthy. Thank you. There are a lot of people that don't realize. Boy, I like getting clothes

off the rack. Boy, I like, you ever seen a bill when there's no drinks on it yeah it's i know right you know the bill you're like nine or nine why is this 200 and you know how much longer you stay there when everybody's drinking yeah i mean boy life you know when you're not thinking about oh wait when we have that dinner you're like no let me just eat this really right now and this is fine you know i have a breast of. I love my little panini things. I just put two thighs in it. No skin. Eat those up really quick with some onions and just done.

And you're gone. Right. And you would have paid. I would have paid $70 for somebody just to do that for me. And to bring it to you. $200 for a bottle of wine. Yeah. Life is so much cheaper.

And I have it. People don't realize. People, when you have money, you are the cheapest bastard on of wine. Yeah. Life is so much cheaper and I have it. People don't realize. People, when you have money, you are the cheapest bastard on the planet. It still bothers you that. Yeah. We have a billionaire friend and took us to dinner at a steak restaurant in Vegas not too many nights ago. And the bill came and he was, he was taking care of it. And then while the bill was on the table, the, the waiter got an order for a cup of coffee from an espresso from

somebody across the table. And there's like 15 people at this dinner. I'm, I'm, I'm guessing it probably ran four grand, $4,500. And he was taking care of the bill. The waiter came back over, picked up the check, took it back and added the espresso. No. He lost his mind, right? I would have too. Lost his mind. That's Nick Landau. He's like, I'm dropping $4,500

and you literally came and took the check and went back and added the $3 espresso? Yeah. Guess what just happened to your tip? Exactly. And by the way, send a manager over here. I was like, whoa. Yeah, they are.

They're conscious. Very conscious. They're conscious of those kinds of things. Just being nickel and dimed to death. You know why it is? I think because entrepreneurs, we're problem solvers and we're trying to see. We just don't.

We like to say, wait a minute. How much more if i just now say i've wasted or not wasted because that's what i enjoyed this time i spent millions more because of that lifestyle and i could have put that on this lifestyle right um you know before we uh tail off on the podcast we only got a few minutes left i definitely you know i've got the the greatest mind in business here I've got to get back to some business questions. But have you found over the course of your career that as you've accumulated a lot of different businesses and a lot of different industries, are you now looking for synergies between these companies and using that to kind of expound upon them? I mean, talk a little bit about your strategy for managing so many disparate type business because you've got fashion and entertainment. Yeah. And they seem so unrelated.

Yeah, well, you know, time is something you can never get back. And more the more successful people get, the the more no's the more times they say no um because you have to you have to maximize whatever time you have right and and that's the most critical thing to do so that's what i do look for i'll only look for synergies well you know coming to the end of the year you know what i do i i i started doing this about eight years ago i look over a list of people i cut out of my life the reason i do that is because if if that person is toxic in my life or we're not good friends either i'm not a good friend of them they're not a good friend of me but usually it's not they're not a good

friend of themselves and they'll never be a good friend to me. And the time that I'm taking solving their problems or fighting with them or feeling like I have, just like I don't have to go to dinner, I don't have to work with you. I don't have to be your friend because it's taking time away from me, maybe letting somebody else in my life I love or spending more time with my faith or my health or my my daughter or my wife so i'm trying to maximize all my aspects of time most of the billion i'm not a billionaire most of the billionaires i know they walk around with real and i'm sure those old little books that we used to write in school with the black and white and you colored them in did ink all on the top and he's like what are you writing down i still see them right now and i'm talking about six separate billionaires he's like, what are you writing down? I used to always see them writing down. And I'm talking about six separate billionaires.

And he's like, I'm writing down how to save taxes because everything changed. I said, what do you mean? Why are you saving taxes? Well, Damon, if I'm going to do $400 million this year, or make $400 million this year, I can either start a new business to try to make $200 million or I can try to legally save 200 million of what I already have why would I do this there's no guarantee that this is even going to work and

it's going to take more time away right maximizing time that they have right it's the same in a business if I have a business how am I going to use these this same COO, CFO, same warehouse, same advertising, marketing, and I'm going to combine all that. So you get these economies of scale. That's it. Synergies. Yeah, that's how factories work. They call it, we have a line.

We're using 70% or 80% of the line. That's how I even started my business. A company I was working with, they were doing winter coats on their factory. Basically, the factory was dormant 70 of the time wow and i said can i put my jeans in there you know for that time was this with fubu yeah and that 30 million dollar business of coats now became 300 million dollar business of jeans wow you maximize the time right um it's about everything even when i go speak if i go speak and i love being a philanthropic person about speaking for

a car company i'll say hey i'll say an extra hour let me meet your best clients and what i normally will get paid do me a favor give me a credit for that amount of money and use cars and you donate those to a 501c3 of my choice or your choice you're going to get the tax write-off a foundation maybe a camp is going to get cars i'm going to be there for just for another hour and i'll speak to your best client who you will be able to say hey i got damer john speak to your best client i'll meet a great person i just maximize an hour. What would I have been doing with that hour anyway? That's so great.

That's so amazing. You know, when we started this podcast, I remember we had a long talk about it and we decided, what's the objective? What do we want to do here? And we both, we went through all kinds of iterations and we talked about how we could make it more successful and what kind of guests we could get on and we ended on um you know we we were having this discussion we ended on we just want to give without the expectation of receipt so the idea is

going to be to launch a podcast and just provide value and let that see where it's going to go and we thought this was just just gonna be like a fun thing we'd do on the side. It's become another full time job. It's led to amazing people, but it's led to amazing. And sometimes as we've grown in popularity, I'll be at a football game or be in the airport, and somebody will stop me that's never paid me a dime,

that's never done anything with any of my clinics, that's not on my supplements, that doesn't buy the red light bed or anything else and say, hey, you know what? I'm watching your podcast, I'm watching your videos. It's made such a material change in my life. I do your breath work, your grounding, your sunlight. And it's amazing because we know now the message is resonating.

I'm getting goosebumps right now. Yeah, the amount of people that have come to us and said, wow, people are going to hear this podcast and go, oh my God, I got so much value from it from a business perspective from a health perspective knowing that if dame and john can do it then i can do it yeah and that's the biggest thing or they take notes on it you know hopefully somebody has taken some notes on the lab values that were pulled because if it sounds familiar to you then okay this is what i should go and have my doctor pull this these are the lab values i should be paying attention to.

Any place you, most places you work, you know, and I know there's a big issue in this country, but if you have an insurance, go get your blood done. Exactly. Amen. Just start off with your blood. Go get your blood done. Get a homerun panel. Twice a year is better.

You know, we have people who do it every single quarter just to really keep on top of what they've got going on. Just make sure they're in the right spot. It's so cool to have that data though, too. You know know not not just on your business it's so cool to have that data on you you know what i learned a long time ago also you know people are they have to have familiarity right and my wife is uh somebody's been talking to me about this stuff for a long period of time and uh we were familiar with you because you had lived in a building where I said okay no problem I was uh I was at a barber shop the other day and the guy said hey I had somebody come into the barber

shop my wife's friend and he uh he's a doctor a surgeon he wanted to make African Americans aware of colon cancer so what we did was we had him do a colon cancer conversation here at the barbershop the barbershop was pretty big he said i had 400 men sign up for that what oh my goodness wow and he said i didn't realize he said politicians and the an army and everybody and and and sin companies have been using barbershops forever because they know how tight the community is that's great but you know what i realize if i'm walking down the street somebody says you want to hear about colon cancer screening get the hell out of my face but you know but you know in the hood or in you know you go you go yo man why you ain't coming to the colon cancer thing look how damn sweaty you look you look like

you sweat going in the elevator yo oh yo you're man and if you don't go there and then a year for a year after that every time you're like oh man i feel oh see because you wasn't at the colon cancer home boy yeah you know so so i think another thing we can learn from this is whatever community you have um you know you can take away what we're talking about here but there are always going to be experts and of course vet them please and don't have one answer to a wall right exactly use your community your small little community to have these intimate conversations because it's on everybody's mind right right they just don't trust who it's coming from right so let this be the lead to say maybe we should do this in a beauty salon golf course i don't care where it is, you know? Yeah. The information is there. It's

just how are you accessing? So true. So amazing. Well, we, um, we end every podcast by asking each guest the same question. There's no right or wrong answer. I'm interested to hear yours, but what does it mean to you to be an ultimate human? Um, well, I want to leave my daughters a legacy, not an heresy. I've been fortunate enough to be a little brown boy that came from nothing. I didn't have any money, no famous last name. I mean, I do have a famous last name, but if I call Elton John. Well, now you do. Well, I call Elton John to tell him I'm his son.

He's not going to believe me. He went back in the Bible now. The ultimate human is to be somebody that makes the planet a little bit better, changes people's lives in a little bit of a better way and give them hope. I think

that's critical. I think it's being very responsible for your actions, owning up to it learning and knowing that you're going to make mistakes and even telling your kids when they're talking to you that daddy at that age i was still growing and i'm still growing now i'm human right um i think it's giving to those who are not in a good place you know um yeah i think that's what's being held and but also testing yourself you know too many of us have settled um we're all special yeah you gotta test yourself like what's a life living without testing yourself it's just and and i think we've allowed many of us allow

society or other people to set goals for us you set your own goals like how can you live without knowing you didn't try the heart and it's not easy and shit will happen yeah but to be the ultimate human is is to do those things so i'm always going to test myself and by the way you never arrive yeah i love that i i love i'm going to steal that from you by the way you can see it on my podcast now. This just came to me. I'm going to close it out with very simple. A woman called my house, called my wife and her parents, and she was like, David, how did this woman get our number?

Like, David, come on, man. You've been on a major network for 15 years. There's got to be some kind of security. This and that. No. I i said you know what honey um i'm gonna call a couple people i don't normally name drop but i call a couple people number one robert is the number he's he's one of the top 10 cyber crime experts in the world wow i call robert he said how who called i said this woman called he said amazing that's normal ro Robert's answer to everything. By the way, Damon, you can't do anything about it.

Screw you, Robert. I don't believe you. I called Cuban. He said, Damon, that happens to me too. I called Catherine Zeta-Jones. She said, oh, darling. Oh, darling. I called Pitbull.

He said, Papa, that lady on the other line right now myself. Same ladies on the other line my right now myself right so same ladies on the other line yeah we need to find her and hire her now since you're a star let me tell you what you get nobody will ever know your business it doesn't happen right the shit that i ate when i was 20 i can't eat when i'm 50 happily ever after doesn't mean happily ever after unless you make it happily ever after. Wow. Right? You being a successful entrepreneur today does not mean you'll be a successful entrepreneur tomorrow. And you being healthy today does not mean tomorrow.

I didn't even know what a CAC score was until a guy standing over here, a YouTuber that I happen to know, an a excellent dad told me what a cac score was and i think i called you i called somebody you're like yeah go down and the doctor i doing my stress test which after you he said damon you completed that 12 minute stress test when a lot of people can't complete athletes can't complete some of these stress i was like me he's like yeah and he said the cac scores come down to $200 and people never use them. I mean, that's a, what is it? A calcium? What's a CAC?

Calcium arterial score. Yeah. He said, people don't even know about this thing. Yeah. So again, you have to keep learning. You never arrive. I love that. I absolutely love that.

Well, Damon John, thank you so much for giving us your time today. Thank you. Thank you. You're a good friend. We love you and your family. We love you.. I love what you've been doing for the world. I mean, you, you deliver it in such a way, just like we do on Shark Tank. It is complicated, but there's every, there's a way to accomplish it on your terms. If you do it the right way at your pace. Amen. If you've got a foundation, how would people find your foundation?

We have the Vuvu Foundation, but generally, but generally, you can check out my podcast where I love to go into deeper things such as this. We all have these- How do we find your podcast? My podcast is called That Moment. That Moment. Very simple. When Michael Jordan got cut from the team as a little kid, everybody asked him, I want to know, what did he do that night? What did he eat?

What was he thinking? Who did he call? Very detailed. I want to go into that. That moment. Right. And I help other entrepreneurs. I have a game changer meetings or my Rise Nation mastermind. Rise Nation. And of course, catch me on Shark Tank. And if you, and again, like we always say, do it within your means. If you're a startup, you can get a book from me. I have five books. But of course, my best one is the one for the kids. Read it with the kids.

And don't necessarily get it from me. Maybe Lewis Howe. Maybe Tim Ferriss. Maybe, you know, Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill. Get it from anybody. The information is there. It's just access to the information that people don't use. Amazing. Thank you so much, Damon.

You're a legend. And as always, guys, that's just science.