The Uneducated PT Podcast - Ep. 167 Not All Gays, Why Pride Has Been Hijacked.

Episode Date: June 25, 2026

This week on The Uneducated PT Podcast, I sit down with Sean Ako — one of Ireland’s most outspoken and controversial cultural commentators.As a gay man who has increasingly pushed back against modern progressive politics, Sean challenges many of the assumptions surrounding Pride, LGBTQ activism, identity politics, gender ideology, and the growing culture around censorship and free speech.We discuss whether Pride has been politically hijacked, why Sean believes minority groups are often used to push ideological agendas, the debate around gender recognition laws in Ireland, pronouns in schools, media distrust, and whether modern society is becoming less tolerant of dissenting opinions.At a time where certain questions feel harder to ask publicly, this conversation explores one central issue:Are we still living in a culture that values free thought… or one that increasingly punishes disagreement?Agree or disagree — this is a conversation worth hearing.

Sean, you've basically gained a lot of attention online because, you know, you're someone that I would say you can correct me if I'm wrong, but people probably struggle to categorize you politically. You're openly gay, but politically you've become increasingly critical of kind of modern left wing and liberal and identity politics. For people who don't know you, can you just explain a little bit about who you are, what you do, all that stuff? Yeah, no problem. So my name is Sean. I'm a writer base in Dublin, and I suppose I got involved politically back in 2022 when me and my gay friends

where we were very sick of the direction the LGBT movement was going. And we were like, why is no one saying that? And so we decided to set up a group called Not All Gays. Just basically say, not all gays agree with, you know, trans issues and I suppose the general direction of how pride's going.

And from that, I started seeing more issues within left-wing politics in Ireland. I come from a working class background, so I'm kind of used to both sides of the political spectrum being absolutely mental and not hearing that from us. So then I kind of got onto speaking about immigration and other things going on.

Yeah, and I suppose, would you consider yourself conservative or would you just consider that things have gone very kind of extreme in one direction and that you're probably, how you think about things probably haven't changed, but everyone else has changed and gone a little bit crazy.

I think I've personally changed because I used to be very, very woke and very left wing back in my teenagers. I think I grew up as kind of like, oh, this is actually completely mental. But the views that I hold now, I think, would be very typically left wing. It's just the issue now is the left has gone so far that way. And especially with gays, they kind of, they're pushing us the other way because they won't speak about important issues such as immigration. Yeah, yeah. And you said that you weren't happy with the direction that the LVGT movement was going and pride. What do you mean by that?

So I've lots of issues with the LGBT movements. I think every letter after the B I'd be, you know, I want to separate from completely. So I wouldn't believe in transgender ideology or queer or plus or anything after that. I just think it's completely lost touch with the original meaning of the Pride movement and what gay rights was fighting for. Mm-hmm. And do you think that a lot of these policies

and these politics and these left kind of leaning or identity style politics, do you feel like they kind of try and hijacked different movements and minorities in order to push their own politics? Yeah, absolutely. Like, what happened with the LGBT movement

is very similar to what happened to, you know, feminism. Because you see women they were fighting for the right to, you know, their own battery rooms, equal pay, whatever. And then Tram's kind of piggybacked off both, saying, but we're going to take your spaces. And then they piggybacked off the gaze and we're going to take your spaces and use the use as a shield to push all this stuff.

That's how I'd view it. Yeah. Do you feel like, you know, I kind of find, and I remember I was talking to someone about this in terms of, like he's a black man growing up in Ireland. And, you know, he's a black man as long as he has the same views as the left. But if he has any conservative views, he's no longer part of that community.

Would you say that's probably similar with yourself in terms of the gay community? Like, yeah, you're gay unless you disagree with our views, then you're not part of the gay community. Yeah, 100% or even about three days ago I got a comment on TikTok saying that they were revoking my gay card.

I was like, I wish, go on, you can take it. I don't want that to do with you, you know? I had Ken O'Flynn on my podcast a couple of months ago and we were actually talking about this. And I know you shared his, of him speaking under the all. I was just going to repeat it back to the listeners and then get your thoughts on so he goes, 43 years after Declan Flynn was murdered, I stood in the doll today.

During Pride Month, as a gay man, I say what many won't. This movement has been hijacked. It no longer speaks for the people who built it. One flag flies over the state, the tricolor. It unites us. It does not divide us into identity groups waiting for their month. We marched for freedom from fear not to become props for somebody else's politics. as a gay man yourself, what was your reaction when you heard that statement? I thought it was absolutely brilliant.

I agreed with every single word of it. I think the LGBT movement or the LGBT movement was completely hijacked by people with gender identity issues and also heterosexuals who want to push this, you know, queer, teary madness where everyone's gay and no one's gay

unless, you know, none of it actually makes sense the whole movement. But yeah, and especially about the flag as well because I think one message that he got across very well was that all Irish people are equal under that flag so why would we have a different flag up to say some people are more important than others

in this country? Do you think that pride has shifted from being about equality and more towards just political activism? Yeah, 100%. The way I'd, have you ever seen The Sopranos and, you know, towniest ducks go away and then he kind of lives his meaning of his life? Yes, yeah. When we got marriage equality, it was like, well, the ducks are gone

so we need to find new ducks. And every year it's been a constant jump, whether it's gender issues or whatever, to find those sucks and keep the money coming so they can scam the government to give them what is at 1.5 million in a year to keep them all in jobs. So they'll just hop on whatever else, make up all these different issues that we don't actually have. And then when we do actually have issues such as, you know, rise in homophobia due to people coming from different parts of the world, they won't speak about it. You're not allowed because it goes against the other NGOs narratives. Now, that's an interesting one. And I think that fits neatly into, remember the two men from Sligo who got their throat slashed. And I think he was going on to gay dating apps trying to lure them in and then, and then he murdered them.

Like there wasn't, there wasn't any talk about, you know, homophobic violence attacks in regards to that situation. Yeah, nothing. Because it completely breaks the narrative that the other NGOs are trying to push as well. all these NGOs work together to kind of put out the same report and they can't contradict one another. So they will not speak about that issue. And that's also a rising thing across Europe, especially within France of gay men going to meet someone up on a dating app

and getting killed. I think there was three murders in the past few years from the one fella that was a refugee. Yeah. Yeah. See, like their logic is so inconsistent. But what I've found over, like, and I would have considered myself, maybe liberal or whatever a couple of years ago. It's only over the last few years I've started to pay more attention.

And it seems like everything that they believe in. Like when you play that logic through, it's just so inconsistent. Yeah. Yeah. And what was your, what was, so what was your experience then growing up being gay in Ireland? Like, like they wanted to play the narrative that, you know, gay people in Ireland are oppressed. Is that the experience that you had? no I never I did a lot of issues as a teenager

I was drinking a lot on different things so I'd more important issues than my sexuality but I wasn't I was 18 when I actually figured it out because when I was 15 16 I went to that group belonged to for a few years and there I was told I wasn't a boy so I wasn't a typical fella and I didn't like football for example so I wasn't a boy and then everyone there there'd be girls saying there were boys and boys saying they were girls

so I got even more confused even though like I knew I liked fellas but it was like, this is all kind of wrecking with me head. So it took me a few years then to really kind of understand that I was just gay and the rest of it was nonsense. Mm-hmm, okay. And if we went back to the LGBTQ movement, there will be people listening to this

who don't really actually understand it, don't even understand the letters behind it. So could you just explain that a little bit for people? Yeah, well, I suppose one issue that I'd have with it because it does confuse people is, you know, you have the LGBT lesbian, gay, bisexuals who just are attracted to the same sex. Yeah. And then after that,

it's people going from one sex to the other, which that whole belief completely contradicts being attracted to the same sex and everything that fought for. So that's me coming from within the community. So I see people outside of being confused. And it's like, on the inside, I don't think anyone knows what's going on anymore. Yeah.

So kind of just, yeah. And that kind of leads me on to kind of the Gender Recognition Act in Ireland as well. I've seen the social democrats came out saying that they're going to support legally recognition for non-binary identities. Can you explain that a little bit for the listeners and why that might be detrimental as well? Yeah, so in Ireland we have the Gender Recognition Act already, which basically means you tomorrow could go into a solicitor, pay a tenor, and you'd legally be a woman. And that would mean you could go to women's sports, prisons, and so on. So now adding non-binary onto that, I haven't a clue what implications could come from that. It could be absolutely.

We don't have a third bathroom for these people to go to a third prison. So I don't know what they're even thinking. But it's very typical social Democrats and Rooke Hopinger politics. Like I don't think I've met crackheads on the street that make more sense to them, to be honest. It is dangerous though because like I know we're laughing about this. But like I don't think like this is the I touched on with someone before about Barbie Kardashian in the in the Limer prison. and the issues that that caused, I think she threatened sexual violence

against a couple of prison officers. I think she attacked or she, he attacked someone. Like, it's essentially giving, you know, predators an opportunity to just be in female spaces where, you know, especially in prisons as well, female prisons, a lot of the prisoners who go to these prisons have probably already experienced some sort of kind of sexual violence in their life and, you know, a place that they should be safe in prison now they're not going

to be from men. I actually heard something very similar at a conference back in, I think it was February. Sarah Ryan from Gryps spoke with it and she was basically speaking about this woman that she was working on her case. She was in prison for loads of different crimes or whatever. But she said the most heartbreaking thing was throughout this woman's life, it was very tough, you know, being a child, she's been through every bad circumstance you can think of. And being in prison was the first.

first time she had a door that locked at night. And I think no one ever thinks of that woman and thinks, well, now there's a threat in the room with her or out in the field hall, you know? Yeah, I don't think people think about it at all. That's the issue. I just wanted to read out something that you wrote as well.

So everyone claims to support free expression right up until someone actually uses it. A confident democracy shouldn't treat a simple question like it's Hannibal Lecter's whispering, what is a woman Clarice.

Do you think that we have, do you think that we are in a danger of almost losing free speech that, you know, people are afraid to speak up about these issues because, you know, they could get sacked, you know, they'll get viciously attacked online. Like, it's become very controversial to ask a question, like, what is a woman?

Yeah, definitely. I think a lot of that comes from the media in Ireland because they will only show, like they say, you know, we're all equal in our beliefs and we all have, we're all entitled to believe what we want, but they will only ever show one side of it. And their, you know, right-wing commentator would be talking to Fian Fall or something, which is now quite left-wing. But yeah, so a lot of people, they're not actually hearing both sides of it, and it's kind of being portrayed in Ireland as if we are here on both sides. And then you look at most other European countries, which would, you know, be the same politically,

like a very left-wing government. At least they're such. get on both sides. They'll still have that branch of media where they'll have the commentator in there. That's very, what's the word, populist or so on. So people can actually then develop their own point of view. But here, we just not really have that other than with grips. Yeah, we do. Like, it seems like every single media outlet in Ireland, it's one, it's one opinion, one way of thinking. And if you think any other way, then, you know, you're, you're going to get your head chopped off essentially. Yeah. Yeah. 100% and then there's also you know when you see with left-wing activism as well anyone who descends

from a minor opinion is kind of excluded from it and so when you do actually end up saying something a little bit more rightly than like a woman is female then they really go for you and they silence people that way for it is you know true what's the word um intimidation yeah yeah it is it is it is and like you can see why people wouldn't speak their mind about these things like because you see the examples of people who really viciously get attacked first speaking about. Like if you look at, what's his name, Graham, Graham. Yeah, the writer from Father Ted. Like, he lost, he essentially lost everything for speaking out about this.

He's still, like, just not, you know, he's not spoken about in Ireland. Then if he is, it's hushed or it's criticism. Yeah, 100%. It's the same way Helen Joyce as well. She wrote that book, Trans, and she hasn't been on mainstream media here. She's a best-selling author. And she's, you know, at the forefront of fighting this dangerous ideology, but they will not give her two seconds. Yeah.

Did you, when you created your, what was the name of it again? Not all guys. Not all guys. When you created that social media, like, did you even notice a difference in terms of people distancing themselves? to you, you know, people attacking you. Like, what, did you, did you, were you able to kind of notice that, that pressure that gets put on people for having a, a, a different opinion? Like, they're diverse, they're diverse, but not diverse to other people's opinions.

Yeah, literally leading up with, you know, I'd have my deals and I'd have my gay friends and they, they wouldn't agree with me. And sometimes it would get very heated. But after we set up not all gays, it was a completely different danger. Like, no, you're too much of an extremist. Yeah. And I lost a lot of people. way but um i've noticed since you know because gays when we started there was all together nine of us

yeah and we were you know really struggling to find other gay people that agreed with us in Ireland but now it's like every other week there's other people popping up on tictox the other day i see the young flit in trinity who was saying i don't agree with the t being on lgb and so on so people are just kind of coping on to it now yeah and seeing it so i think things have vastly changed since then but the aggression when we first started was something else like i remember we were an event called Let Women Speak and Paul Murphy, Richard Boy, Barrett, Breed Smith, they were on the other side

and they were screaming Nazis at us and on our side there was a woman speaking about her baby sister being in the tomb, septic tank, and they're screaming a Nazi, so. Yeah, they're like, they're rootless, aren't they? And speaking of free speech, did you see they refuse to answer questions from grips the other day? Yeah,

it was more to fun. I tweeted about that too saying they're like the Powerpuff girls because they're literally... They're literally they're literally mean girls in Irish politics, aren't they? Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's, it's, um, it's just wild.

But yeah, I feel, you can kind of feel a, like a little bit of a wave changing where like, you know, lots of people with common sense are kind of, I think a lot of people just, when something's popular at the time, people just kind of go along with it. And they all went along with, you know, putting pronoun, pronouns in their bios and, um, but I think as more people have been brave enough to speak out about it, the wind, starting to turn, but it doesn't seem to be turning in terms of the politics. Not yet anyway. Maybe in the culture, I feel, I can see the change in culture, but I don't see the change in politics. I mean, like, they're

still trying to push these policies true. Yeah, that's true. I think a part of that is there's a lot of people don't know who to vote for and they don't trust a lot of people that kind of pop up out an hour. Like, we have a handful of good politicians, like say, Ken O'Flynn, Gavin Pepper, Malagie Seenson, but outside of that, people don't really know, because they've already been let down by say the likes of Sinn Féin and should we take a chance now on the other side. Yeah, yeah, you're kind of waiting for them to kind of change their policies,

but they don't seem to be learning from, they don't seem to be listening on the grounds to what people want. I always say that kind of, like, politics is usually downstream from culture, so, but it seems like they're all living in their bubble so they're actually not listening to what people are saying or what people want.

Yeah, exactly. What was your thoughts on, obviously the Paranel stabbing of the kids that obviously hasn't got obviously that's up in court now at the moment that hasn't really got the media attention that it probably deserves

I know you said you touch a lot on immigration as well what are your thoughts on that? I think it's heartbreaking like I was reading an article today in grips that Fatma Gunnarrow and they were saying in court that this girl she can't even swallow

by herself she used to be fed through with she up straight into her stomach and she'll never be able to she can't communicate she communicates through Blinking and even then they don't know how well our brain is able to cope she's that brain damaged

and it's just like that man has taken from her family from that girl in a way that no sentence could ever be harsh enough from so it's just tragic yeah and and there's literally nothing

in the mainstream media about it either and I you know what I was do you remember when it happened and then obviously there was the riots in in town and like it seems like every time something happened like this now.

It's like you can just play out how everything's gonna, like the ISIS style beheading in Belfast. You could literally see how that was going to play out. All right, so, you know,

a migrant goes and he does an ISIS style beheading and people go to the streets because they're absolutely outraged. People get angry and they start breaking shit up. And then, you know, the mainstream media and the government are licking their lips because they're like, okay, now we can deflect

and put the cameras on these people and say, look at these people. you don't associate with these, these are racist, and they can just deflect from the policies that have created this crime and onto the other people and continue to get away with it then. And I suppose that was the exact same thing with the kids stabbing on Parnell Square.

Yeah, 100%. And it is very heartbreaking and seeing people burn down the wrong country, but I do understand where the anger's coming from. I don't come down it, but these are people who've been let down their whole lives through education, through school, by the government, and they're saying with their parents most likely and so on

they've been light at their door steps by these politicians they've done everything they can to address different issues they have in their own lives or within the government and they're just ignored, deflected and so on so obviously these people are going to go on to burn things because they're like well we're not being heard to say we get hurt but then the government do we use it against them and say we don't need to listen to any of this then

so that's the other side of it yeah and it's it's very sinister as well because if you even think about the the situation in city west right so you had these kind of you had these concerned parents and neighbours um like they were protesting outside city west for months and months at a time never any issues never any trouble just you know looking for someone to listen to them and then obviously that situation happens with that young girl who gets taken from tussla over to city west and of course then you have the the the raging mob which you know

this like once when little girls are attacked you know what do you expect there's going to be people out on the streets people are going to break shit up people are going to be angry and again it's like they just point directly at them riots at city west they don't talk about all the peaceful protests that were happened before that happened after it's just orty i've got my shot and now we can deflect on on you know not not our policies and on the people breaking up shit exactly and then it's the government's fault that this happened in the first place on both sides of it because they're ignoring these people

in working class areas for generations and then they're ignoring the immigration issue and obviously that's going to clash then and then they're like oh we don't have to do anything about it it's not our fault because they're burning stuff down do you think it's a bit of a class issue the immigration policy or the immigration debate yeah 100% because I mean the areas that are being affected

most by our working class areas and then you look at a lot of the children that are suffering from it. They're, you know, in Tuesday and so on. So they're not posh. So I do think it does affect working class people a lot more, a lot more. And then they're the ones left to deal with it when they already have enough issues in their areas. So. Yeah. Yeah. I just wanted to read out another piece of writing that you, that you wrote and kind of

embodies free speech as well. So at the end of the day, no one is being arrested or professionally ruined for saying trans women are women. Meanwhile, those of us accused of wearing tinfoil hats. Now the reputational risk does not fall evenly across the bates. Growing up, I believed you shouldn't have to silence yourself because your views made someone else uncomfortable. Today, that principle comes with terms and conditions. We've gone from arguing with people to managing them. Many gender-critical women argue that expressing views rooted in biological understandings of sex carries growing reputational and professional risk. Whether you agree is not the central issue. What matters is

whether democratic societies remain willing to tolerate unresolved tensions. If your opinion has to clear HR before it leaves your mouth, that's not free speech. Yeah, that was about the digital services act because it only really falls on one side of debate. Brownie police on one side

and it doesn't matter how kind that side is, just for speaking facts, they're still punished for it in one way or the other. Yeah, do you think freedom of speech in Ireland is becoming increasingly conditional? yeah definitely especially like people who have left wing

opinions they can come into the workplace and they can spout about that all day but the minute I mention that and about what I don't believe in gender ideology or I have issues with immigration or I think this is about whatever then it's like hang on newsguels HR you're not let's say that so I think it's

very at 1982 yeah yeah I I've noticed that as well I've noticed that even like sometimes you sometimes you find yourself in social situations and like it's the norm to have these views or to say Trump's an asshole or say that. But if you turn around and say anything other than the popular narrative, you know, you're

the worst person in the world. And sometimes it's not even, it's not, sometimes it's not even worth just saying, which is a terrible thing, but to not say your opinion because you know that the backlash that you're going to get probably isn't worth it. I know sometimes it's like, if you feel strongly enough about something, you're just going to say it anyway. And, but a lot of times you're like, all right, I'm not going to be able to change your mind in a five minute conversation because, you know, you're so indoctrinated that it's just not even worth my time. So unfortunately, I just have to say silent because I know I'm not even going to be able to get true to you.

Yeah, 100%. Yeah. What else did I want to touch on? Do you have any thoughts on, obviously, the UK are trying to bring in a ban on under 16th for social media. Now, a lot of people have been critical to saying that, that, you know, this is going to start with under 16s,

but then you're going to have to verify who you are to get onto social media and therefore you lose essentially your privacy. And people are worried that, you know, if you do have an opinion that, you know, doesn't go with the political narrative, you know, that, you know, men can't be women or whatever it is. Now it's going to be a lot easier to, you know,

silence you on social media because you know, they control the narrative again. Would you agree with that? Yeah, 100% I think it's just like I think about when especially the UK government, like they have to hold room and gang scandal going on that all the politicians are thrown around. Since when did

they care about children and young people? When do they care about grooming? It's just the way for them to get in digital ID which I suppose like there could be positive to it like you know, stopping paedophiles. But I mean, are they going to, they don't really do it when they have to prove of it anyway. but I think it's not really about the current government

how they're going to use it against people but imagine even think back to Hitler imagine we had digital ID back then and he'd be round up all the Jews in five minutes so yeah it's about who could use that and that power just no one should have no government should have that much power over people and being able to track them all on everything they do online

I think it's a complete invasion of privacy so I hope the UK finds a way to resist so yeah I did someone that was a really good point someone else had something online where it's like, oh yeah, they're trying to protect children by keeping them off social media at under 16, and yet they're trying to push through puberty blockers at 11 in the UK. Yeah. Do you have any thoughts on that?

Yeah, well, like, there's another thing as well about that, like, look at the education system, they're teaching kids about this in the books. Yeah, I've seen that, yeah. It doesn't make sense, like, what worse can they find on the internet? Yeah. you know, that kind of stuff. But yeah,

I'd be completely against puberty blockers as well. I think the UK now is still gone forward with the puberty blocker trial where they're essentially going to be testing on children

as young as 11 to see what the effects are of puberty blockers. So they wouldn't do it to a dog to be honest. It just shows how do these people care about kids? Yeah.

You touched on the rape gang report as well. What are your thoughts on that? Did you go through some of the testimonials from Rupert Lowe's independent report I haven't gone through I've just seen it over the years

and I've seen it was out but I haven't actually looked at it and I think the whole thing is tragic down I've seen in their parliament the politicians deflecting about it completely there's a few good ones that have you know really addressed it and said

it's disgraceful that you just want to actually do anything about these victims but other than that I've kind of just avoided it because it's so horrific yeah yeah if it falls into the same I suppose issues that we're talking about in terms of being gender critical is that like for 50 years, 60 years,

people were afraid to speak up and say the actual, like this is, this is the effects of censorship essentially, is that, you know, people who are afraid to speak up and say anything because they were afraid to be called racist or they were afraid to be called Islamophobic or whatever it is. And the, you know, the consequences of that is for 50, 60 years, you've ignored that and you've created 250,000, 50,000 victims who have been trafficked as young as, you know, eight years old, 11 years old,

because, you know, you were afraid to speak up. And I think, you know, when we talk about whether it's being gender critical or just like that great piece that you had on your substack, you know, if we're not allowed to have opposing views, these are the kind of tragedies that come from that. Yeah. And you can even see that within the Pride movement. last year, Stephen Ireland he was CEO of Surrey Pride and there was no safeguard involved he ended up getting done for sexually assault

and I think multiple children because now everyone was too afraid to be called homophobic and you can see there's that couple in the UK about the baby boy I mean no one in the hospital wanted to question them because I didn't want to be seen as homophobic

and what was that story again I think I only have heard that story but I think I know what you're talking about there was a couple in the UK one of them was a secondary school teacher and they had adopted a baby. I think they had the baby for about three months and within that time he was brought to hospital

multiple times of different injuries that were caused by sexual abuse and the child's basically being tortured. But none of the doctors and nurses wanted to be called homophobic and never did that in about it and then the kid ended up dying I think after three months in their care.

Yeah. See that's like when you think about that that's crazy. But again, them stories are probably not being pushed out to the people that probably need to hear them to change their mind on a lot of these, on a lot of this identity politics. Yeah.

Yeah. I have two more questions for you. So where do you think we go from here in terms of the, in terms of the, you know, gender critical debate? I suppose people just need to say, saying it out loud. Like most of the people that I know in Ireland

that are gender critical and they're active in the roofs, they're afraid to get in trouble and work. I'm obviously very public with my deal have you got any pushback and work from that? A few people have discovered it. Like, I mean, no one said that in bad. There's one woman who found one of my articles, one of my spiked articles called Confessions of a Homonationalist.

It was one of my spicier ones. And she was like, she had no idea about anything political. And she read it and she started looking into all of it. And she was like, oh, my God, like, this is mad. That's great. So that was really lovely. But it's just the one wrong person that finds it. Then I'd be.

Yeah. See, in that instance, that's someone who, who isn't swayed either way anyway. They're kind of, it's better if someone is just kind of, you know, in that middle ground where they don't really have an opinion on something. So if you can speak sense to them, they'll actually listen to you. But then you have the other side who are completely indoctrinated. And they're the people that come after you and are,

and we've seen how nasty the left really can be over the last couple of years. Yeah. Yeah. So you're not, but you're not nervous. You'll continue to speak out about it. Oh, yeah. 100% if they fired me tomorrow

I'd be like well I can talk more about it now you know yeah yeah but I think more people need to take a bit of chance I know it's difficult for someone especially if they have kids that they're paying a mortgage and like I live at home the worst thing that what happens to me is my ma will give out to me for a few hours

but I think anyone who can they just might as well if people don't will lose that free speech all together I think yeah 100% and in terms of politics going forward in Ireland where do you think where we're heading.

I think unfortunately Shanaid Gibney's going to get voted in again and that's going to just be insufferable. I don't think Ruth Coppenter is. I think it was great that she was elected in the last term because people could see just how mental she is.

Yeah, she really is. So I think what's going to happen is next term we're going to have a completely left-wing government, Sinn Féin, Social Democrats, and then after that we're going to, it's going to go far right. People are going to like, nope, we need fascism now to fix this. Do you think that it needs to get worse

before it gets better in regards. I think unfortunately I will, because especially young people are so swayed to the left, thinking that's a solution, because they don't realize that a lot of the policies in government that are failing is because they've gone so left on certain issues, so now it's going to get even worse. I mean, we've got people for profit

pushing Marxism. So, I mean, good luck. Like, if that happens, we'd have to flee the country. Yeah, it's literally communists in the law. Yeah. All right, listen, we'll leave it there, Sean. I appreciate your thoughts on, and I'd love to get you back on maybe in a couple of months and continue to keep up today with the madness

that is the Irish political landscape at the moment. Perfect, yeah, thanks for having me. It was a pleasure. Listen, thanks to mail. Oh, actually, if people wanted to keep up with the work you do, you know, where can they find you? Where is your writing? I suppose your writing's on substack.

You're also on X. Just tell the people a little bit about where they can find you. Yeah, I mostly use Twitter. I button across social media and substack as the ACCO files. yeah so okay all right well i'll leave all in the show notes and i appreciate it thanks john sure thanks very much