The Wellness Scoop - Fads, Fasting & Finding Calm

Episode Date: January 22, 2026

This week on The Wellness Scoop, we’re answering your questions on fasting trends, supplements, junk food advertising, and the beauty and wellness advice filling our feeds. Plus Ella deep dives into... our time off social media and how she stopped doom scrolling to find more calm.  We also talk about low iron and how to support iron intakes without relying on red meat, genetically high cholesterol and why diet alone doesn’t always change the numbers, and whether viral trends like sardine fasts or sea moss actually offer benefits or unnecessary risk. We also unpack magnesium for sleep, red light face masks, and how to approach supplements and beauty tech without getting pulled in by marketing. We zoom out to the wider food environment too, including junk food advertising bans, celebrity endorsements of ultra-processed food, and whether these policies are likely to shape children’s health in a meaningful way. Along the way, we cover warm, nourishing meals that are easier to digest, budget-friendly shopping, and how to eat well without slipping into restriction. Send your questions for our weekly Q&A to hello@wellness-scoop.com. Recommendations:  Brick⁠ - win back a bit of presence in your day Emily In Paris⁠ on Netflix The White Princess⁠ on Channel 4 Loved Before⁠ - Eco-friendly toys!  The Great Escaper⁠ (find it on the BBC iPlayer) Order your copy of Ella's new book: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Quick Wins: Healthy Cooking for Busy Lives⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Pre-order your copy of Rhi's upcoming book: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Fibre Formula⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Welcome to the Wellness Scoop, your weekly dose of hopefully very positive health and wellness inspiration. And it was always to bring you that empowerment and inspiration. We are here as your host. I'm Ella Males. And I'm Rihanna Lambert and today we dive into the juicy topics as chosen by you. So Ella, here we are. I think we should start with the fact that you've got this new brick. So you must surely have some great new recommendations for us this week.
Starting point is 00:00:31 Oh my gosh. I know I was talking all about this one. Monday's episode, again, just clarify, not sponsored, but you're welcome to sponsor us, Bric, you are amazing. My tapping in, tapping out device to ban me from all social media. Guys, I'm coming up now then to almost two weeks, basically logged out social media. I honestly am not trying to be nuts, but I just feel like quite a different person and I'll be really boring because I'll keep saying the same thing, but I'm just so appreciating the calm and I tell you what I have been doing. Probably pretty clear by now.
Starting point is 00:00:58 Presence calm is what I'm going for in 2026. And I have always. always done or consistently but ish meditation breath work practices and i as of my mom described me hi camilla and this weekend always a highly strong person which is totally accurate i'm trying to rid myself of that and when i do these practices religiously i do see a really big shift so i've committed to daily just five or ten minutes of breath work and again just that coupled with removing the kind of constant dopamine here. I am just more patient. I feel clearer, calmer, and I'm so grateful for it. And I've started my breath work teacher training. Oh, Ella, I can't wait for you to practice on me. Well, I need people to practice on. I have to do case studies as part of this. So we're so be careful
Starting point is 00:01:50 what you wish for. I know, but I did message Ella when I was traveling this morning just saying, I really feel like I can devote more time every week to the podcast now. So perhaps that includes breathwork. And do you know what, Ella, I have been watching some incredible TV shows. So I have a long list of Rex today. Tell us, Ray, what are you watching? What do we need to watch? Okay, so the first one, it's a golden oldie, but it's, I don't think you could watch it before. It wasn't available to us, but it's called the White Princess on Channel 4. And we mentioned before on the podcast that Ella and I are both fans of Philippa Gregory. I am obsessed with period dramas, Tudor history, all sorts of things like that. And it's the story of the daughter of Elizabeth Woodville, who's kind of coined as
Starting point is 00:02:33 Lizzie in the program, and her relationship bringing the House of Tudor together with Henry the seventh. And it's such a good series if you're into, you know, historical kind of shows. That's on Channel 4 and you can stream that for free at the moment on Channel 4. I read the book of that so long ago and I still remember being gripped beyond gripped and just loving it. So I need to watch that. It's so good. And it is sad when you think of the boys in the tower in that story because they were her brothers, the two princes that went missing that were sadly suspected to be murdered by we don't know who. So yeah, it's a really, really good one.
Starting point is 00:03:09 And then the next one is called The Great Escapeer. It was Instagram targeted Ella. So actually, maybe I wouldn't have seen it if I'd had the brick. That's the only positive is that I found this. It's based on a true story of a World War II veteran. It's on BBC I player to stream. and he's in his 90s and he goes back to the beaches and it's the most heartwarming
Starting point is 00:03:30 with Michael Kane I think he's the guy that plays the lead character the most heartwarming story I cried watching the trailer that I just thought wow if you need a good kind of blubber an emotionally uplifting type of program that is one to watch oh we all need those don't we I watched Emily in Paris also on your recommendation
Starting point is 00:03:50 thinking of very much not the same thing but kind of feel good in January 5th, although very different remit. And gosh, I know it gets its flack, but I just love it. It's such feel good zone out of the world and like just immerse yourself in beautiful places with beautiful clothes. And it's, it's so silly and frivolous that like obviously it's not real that I just think it's so fun anyway. I really, I actually particularly enjoyed this season.
Starting point is 00:04:22 So did you like the same? her Ella, because my favourite bits is when she comes on and does all the songs. Yeah, it was really good. I loved her at Pride. She was 10. But no, I really enjoyed it as feel good stuff. It's so feel good. And I've got a little brand as well to recommend. It's called Loved Before underscore London. And if you're looking at buying toys for family nieces, nephews, children that you know, they actually sell these in self-fries, but also online. And it's about getting cuddly toys because a lot of them end up in landfill. And it's really sad. And they've got these really. And they've got these really. cute adverts of bears that say we used to be loved here, almost like toy story vibes, but then our owner grew up and forgot about us, that type of thing. So you can buy pre-loved toys. And I just think that's so important to emphasize that, you know, everything we buy does have a consequence and it one day might end up in landfill. So perhaps we can get more secondhand. But that's it. They're my wrecks for today. I love that. Do you know what last weekend, my husband was away and I took my kids down to stay with my mom for the weekend. And my mom
Starting point is 00:05:23 who is absolutely phenomenal at anything environmental, and she's super, super conscientious. She's like, brilliant. But she kept all of our, I mean, not all of our, because obviously I'm sure some of them were in really bad condition, but she kept so many of our toys. So, you know, some of them are like 25, 30, 35 years old. I mean, they're really old.
Starting point is 00:05:46 And my girls were playing with them the whole weekend in ecstasy, like the wooden shop we had when we were kids. my sister's baby-born and all the baby-born paraphernalia associated with it. And, I mean, they're not even secondhand because they're often been through all four of me and my siblings before getting to my kids. And they just loved them. It just made no difference than whatsoever. It was a really nice reminder as well of, like, investing in things to last.
Starting point is 00:06:11 I completely agree. I'm such a fan of that. Also, it's got emotional links to it as well. It's great for the environment. It's just so emotive. Oh, I know. I was texting my siblings so many pictures. I'm like, look at them playing with this, that, the next thing.
Starting point is 00:06:24 My sister was like, I'm pretty sure that baby born must be so mouldy. It doesn't matter. It's the principal bless. She's lost her lips through, I think, the baby born food being overfed it in time, but my daughter did not notice. Anyway. Like a brown merge of sludge around the mouth. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Ella, let's take some questions. So the first one we've got today is from Satara. Have I pronounced that correctly, Satara? Sittara. I think so. Beautiful name. She said, I've moved abroad earlier this year from my home in the UK and hearing your voices twice a week has honestly been such a comfort. It makes me feel a little closer to home.
Starting point is 00:07:04 I have a question for you. I recently had a blood test down and found my iron levels were really low. I'm about 20 months postpartum and also feeling so tired. So I guess it does make sense. But do you have any food suggestions that aren't red meat heavy? Because I feel like that's the first thing everybody says. Or do you think I need to supplement to top it up further? If so, do you have any recommendations for this?
Starting point is 00:07:27 I'm totally overwhelmed by all of the supplement options and also remembering you saying how so many of them, you know, just aren't great. Yeah, well, thank you so much for messaging us. I think it's so common and I think so relatable that postpartum period to be feeling exhausted and be depleted. I mean, you've grown a whole person, you've given them so much. And, you know, if your iron stores haven't been kind of completely restored, It's so normal to feel this way.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Rie, I wonder before we go any further, though, could you give us, with your nutritionist hat on 101, on what iron is? Yeah, I think it's really important. And it resonates with me personally this question because I was actually found to be anemic as well. And iron plays such a key role with our energy levels. But also, what seems to happen is, I think up to the first six months,
Starting point is 00:08:16 we provide for our bodies if you are breastfeeding. A lot of the iron for babies. And then, you know, you get it in formula milk, well fortified if not. And it helps with our red blood cells, traveling around the body, helps us feel awake, energized. It's a key role in so many different functions. But from six months onwards, we need to get this within the diet. And what seems to happen to us, parents or mothers, rather, is that we're very depleted because you've lost a lot of blood during the giving birth process. You've had all your iron stores essentially taken from you, if you look at it
Starting point is 00:08:50 quite a simple basic level. And I actually think that sometimes the signs are there and we miss them. So some unusual cravings that can happen in pregnancies. And I remember doing this in the pregnancy book, but I'll share my story because I don't mind. It's quite embarrassing, Ella. But I... Safe space, Roe. Yeah, safe space. My husband, we were living in this one bed flat in London when I was pregnant. And I was getting cravings for the smell of tennis balls. So he bought me for Valentine's Day and I was over the moon, he bought me two boxes of brand new tennis balls and I would just sit on the sofa and sniff them.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Oh my goodness, me. I love it. I love stories like this. I still remember being in the car with my mum when I must have been so young, like eight or nine, and they had a call-in thing of the weirdest pregnancy cravings. I just remember just thinking like, God, pregnancy must be wild. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:42 And also, this is actually very bad, so you shouldn't do this. But things like Tippx, I was like, I really need to buy some tip-ex because I just... To smell it? Yeah, I really wanted to smell it. And actually, even with my nutrition hat on, I was so blinded by my own symptoms and signs that I totally just, and it was locked down. It was a very different time.
Starting point is 00:10:00 I just wasn't away. But I think I had something that was never picked up and called pika. And actually, it's that weird deficiency that some women want to like eat mud and different things. Yeah, some of these ladies were saying that when they were ringing this radio show. Yes. And it's because of an iron deficiency, Ella. So it got missed because of lockdown, but I was anemic. And it's really common in pregnancy and motherhood.
Starting point is 00:10:23 So what you need to do is, you know, if red meat isn't for you, of course, you know, we look at iron-rich plants and it's all these chickpeas and pulses, just pair them with lots of vitamin C. You just need to really load your diet. Even Tempe has iron. If you eat eggs, that's a really easy way to get levels up very quickly because actually it's a bit harder with vegetables on a whole because you have to have such a large quantity of them. you always have to put them with vitamin C. But a short-term, well-chosen, iron supplement is really helpful and recommended. And what I will say is so many different types aren't absorbed very well, ferrousulfate, different things that might be better or worse for you.
Starting point is 00:11:00 I would recommend speaking to your GP and getting advice on the supplements, because if you are anemic, you do need a bit of a helping hand, Ella, I think. Yeah. And I think when you're, you know, if you're feeling that way and you get your test, results back. I think that's the same with anything. And so just to kind of clarify, I think, picking up also in Satara's question, Winnell, anti-supplements with a full stop at the end, as a general consensus on the show, I think it's just this sense of not feeling you need to buy things because people kind of give you a good marketing spiel about them as opposed to you knowing that you are a bit low
Starting point is 00:11:36 in sync or a bit low in iron and really supporting that. Absolutely. Thank you for your question. And our next question is from Alex. And she said a quick intro. and thank you. I've relocated to Hong Kong in 2004 with my husband. But the role didn't work out, so we now have to move back to the UK, which is pretty soon after moving. She said the Walna Scoop launched soon after he left, and the familiarity of your voices in my ears and the incredible content you cover has been such a highlight of my week, especially during the lonely moments.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Plus, deliciously, Ella, cereal bars are a staple of the cool packages he brings when he visits me at least six boxes each time, Ella. I mean, I also had a load of those in the cupboard yesterday. We had the lemon and poppy seed ones. Oh, I love those ones. They're my favourite. During the final episode of 2025, Rie mentioned she has genetically high cholesterol. She said I was recently diagnosed with this after an annual health MOT and I'm at a loss as how to manage it.
Starting point is 00:12:31 I eat a plant and fish focused and minimally processed diet and I have the luxury of time to cook. I don't eat the usual culprits of red and processed meat. I love my oats, beans, pulses, oily fish. so I'm at a loss as to how I should improve my cholesterol levels. Should I be worried? And do we have any advice on this? Such a good question. And I think also really, like I know you've been really open about your experience of these genetically predisposed high cholesterol levels.
Starting point is 00:12:59 And I think that's something, again, lots of people aren't aware of. Exactly. And actually, it doesn't mean it's bad. And it's actually the ratio breakdown. So you need to ask, first of all, for the breakdown of the cholesterol, what's the good versus the bad? because you really want more good cholesterol rather than LDL, which is bad cholesterol, so HGL over LDL. And you can definitely ask to speak to your doctor to explain that further for you, but I wouldn't beat yourself up about it. Ella, like you said, you know, people don't realize.
Starting point is 00:13:27 And I know that the number's high, but actually my ratio is good because I eat so many healthy fats. You're already doing an amazing job. Your diet sounds fantastic. But what you could definitely do is just increase the fiber. Fibre is key with cholesterol here. It plays such a major role in looking after and flushing out what we do and don't need within our gut, but also the healthy fats of what helps the good ratio. I would love to see less saturated fat, which is interesting considering on the American food period we discussed last week, not period. Triangle.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Yeah, from Monday. Yeah, from Monday. They had increased in the diagram, even though their recommended amount was still low. And most people eat too much. So saturated fat comes in hidden areas from processed foods and it comes in butter and it comes in cheese. So more of the oily fish, more of the nuts, seeds, pulses, grains, legumes. And you're not a failure. I honestly actually think it might not be a bad thing and we probably worry more than we need to.
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Starting point is 00:14:55 Every recipe also gives you plant points to help you eat more plants, so you can get your 30 plants a week. It'll all help you feel great and just make healthy cooking feel effortless again. So Quick Wins is out now wherever you get your books. Okay, Maria, I can't wait to hear what you think on this one. This is from Amy.
Starting point is 00:15:13 And Amy said, I haven't seen this, so I don't know if you have, I'm seeing three-day sardine fasts promoted everywhere. So where for three days you literally just eat tins or jars of sardines. I think I can imagine your responses, but I'm tempted. It sounds madness. It does indeed. But is there something in it? Yeah, it's quite something.
Starting point is 00:15:35 I mean, before we talk about sardine fars, I think probably you'll have something to say, like sardines are really healthy food. I know where it's from, I think. It was another really big podcast that creates viral video clips that go everywhere. I think it was a woman. It's come back to me the memory. So please correct me if I'm wrong. If anyone remembers, not that we all need to go and watch it.
Starting point is 00:15:57 But yeah, they're nutritious, full of amiga three and also calcium because you've got soft bones within the sardines that if you consume those, it's a really bioavailable way of getting maximum absorption of calcium and omega-3s. What I will say is oceans are declining, so quality of produce isn't getting any better, but sardines are not as commonly consumed, so they're not, they are over farm like every fish is, but not the same quantity as cod, for instance, or something else. And I would get it tinned in olive oil to help with the absorption of the fats rather than anything else. But I don't recommend it. Sorry, I don't think you should do this.
Starting point is 00:16:35 No. So I think it's very important we just separate. Sardines are really good for you. So including sardines as an oil. fish sauce, like thumbs up, if you enjoy them. But sardine fasting, very different. Men's health actually did an article on it and they had sardine fasting is the latest health trend for experts worn. It's a terrible idea. This is one fad best left unopened. I've seen a few things on it, but generally I think it's nobody recommends it. I think it came from the lady Ella,
Starting point is 00:17:08 she was just saying try eating three tins of sardines a day, you'll soon realise you can't stomach it anymore because it's just so full of fat and strong flavours. It was more of that angle rather than... No, it came about, sorry to say no, that might be that clip, but having researched it, it is a thing. No.
Starting point is 00:17:24 It was actually created by somebody who went on a ketogenic diet as part of looking at support for cancer recovery. So it is actually, it turns out, as I said, prior to this question coming in from Amy, I actually hadn't seen it before. but it is something and there's health line which is a good sight they were talking about someone
Starting point is 00:17:43 for example a lady in North Carolina she ate nothing but sardines for more than three months and my head is in my hands there's no fibre no fibre for your gut health but also not a huge gap of enjoyment the thing is we've got to look at the context of where it came from because when you have cancer
Starting point is 00:18:00 you are desperate for solutions you will try things because you are just of course we're so vulnerable but we're starving our gut microbes here and that in turn will increase inflammation within the body because we're not supporting our immune system and we're not supporting our gut lining. No, I mean, look, for any normal quote unquote,
Starting point is 00:18:19 healthy person, non-medically supervised, I think it's very difficult to recommend any kind of fast. If what you're feeling, and you might disagree with me on this, but if what you're feeling is, I really do want to shift my diet this year, you could try three days where you're like, I am really focusing on whole foods these three days. I'm really going to try not maybe even have any ultra-processed foods
Starting point is 00:18:42 or any alcohol, for example, and just really like get my gut going and get my taste buds more used to quinoa and leafy greens and tahini and lentils and sardines again, for example. Like just feel like you need to really motivate yourself and have that real focus on loads of delicious whole foods. But don't do just one thing only. Positive fact. It just takes 24 to 48 hours to notice microbial changes within your gut.
Starting point is 00:19:08 So absolutely, it just takes even just one to two days of focusing on that approach. I think is a good idea, Ella. Yeah, and I'm not a fan of saying, I'm never eating sugar again kind of thing. But if you're like, you know what, I just need to make a change. For a day, two days, three days of saying I'm just really going to focus these few days on whole food ingredients, cooking from scratch, making a big doll for supper that I have for lunch the next day, snacking on nuts and seeds, excellent. What I will say is it's amazing how there is some truth in your taste buds adapting to going without.
Starting point is 00:19:36 So I do not recommend saying you're never going to have sugar again like Ella said or I'm not touching it for a week. I think those messages can just cause more harm than good. However, it is true that if you don't, for instance, if your chocolate of choice is a Kit Kat bar, we now know that technically that's not chocolate because there's not OK. Chocolate flavoured. Yeah. So your goal instead could be I'm actually just going to eat chocolate that is chocolate. And you'll notice your taste buds will adapt.
Starting point is 00:20:01 to the higher percentage, even still in milk chocolate categories. And that could still be a positive change. I think it's how we refrain the conversation. Exactly. So it's not, I've never ever doing this ever again, but you can do a kind of gentle reset essentially without having to do something extreme like only sardines, just a massive focus on whole foods, whole foods, whole foods. I love that, Ella. I think the next question, we should jump to the junk food ban. Yes, really good question here. This comes from Jake. Jake's asked us a question before. So welcome. come back Jake. Here's questions. What are your thoughts on the junk food ban which aims to stock junk food adverts before 9pm and restrictions on adverts? The ban is aimed at tackling
Starting point is 00:20:40 childhood obesity. Do you think it will have any impact? Also linked to my question, I heard an ad the other day for a new Burger King Burger endorsed by Gordon Ramsey. As he is a top chef, I'm unsure why he's promoting fast food and critically UPFs. What do you guys think? That is very surprising. Okay, so what Gordon Ramsey was advertising was, you know, we love a headline, the Wagyu, taste testing Burger King's new 11-pound burger that Gordon Ramsey loved. So he was bought in basically to help launch Burger King's most expensive menu item ever, which is an 11-pound Wagyu burger. Can I just say very quickly, the planetary plate says we shouldn't have more than 75 grams in a portion of red meat. So just be aware that when we go for these giant, like lump chumps, just make it once. a week. So apparently
Starting point is 00:21:29 Ramsey created in 2020 went completely viral a Wagyu burger, had Pacarino shaved truffle and it was about 80 pounds. I love truffle. I'm sorry. Yeah, 80 pounds. 80 pounds. In Burger King? No, no, no, no. Gordon Ramsey's viral
Starting point is 00:21:45 Wagyu Burger was not Burger King. He went viral in 2020 for a Wagyu burger. So I wonder if that's why Burger King then bought him in to launch their one, their 11 pound burger. Yeah, I mean, that link makes absolute perfect sense. I was going to say 80 pound and truffle at Burger King just sound
Starting point is 00:22:03 a little bit odd. But can I also make you laugh? Because obviously, do you remember when Wagyu kind of came out and people started talking about this the fact that, you know, what made it so special was the fact that cows were massaged and they were sung to. Basically, it was like pampered luxury
Starting point is 00:22:18 cows to make more kind of luxurious beef and a spokesperson for Burger King confirmed no cows were massaged nor sung to. at the farms supplying the fast food outlet. Oh, you know how I feel about everything. And I think everyone listening knows that I'm just a big emotional mess. I find it really difficult talking about it.
Starting point is 00:22:38 But we have to discuss the actual facts here. The, if it means moving away from UPFs and quality meat for people within food, surely that's a good move. Yeah, I mean, I think so. I just think that is it high quality, ultimately. And also animal welfare. Like I said, Amosofti, we have major issues. We're not as fantastic as the UK probably says it is. Yeah. So, I mean, maybe it's better, but is it still falling into UPF camps? I would say probably.
Starting point is 00:23:11 And encouraging people to eat more Burger King is never a good idea. Yeah, because ultimately I wonder how many people actually are going to buy the 11 pound burger. They think it's more actually you're endorsing Burger King. And then actually most people when they go in, they're going to buy the much cheaper burger. You know, you might try the Wagyu Gordon Ramsey one once, but I don't think people are going to keep buying. I think if you want to spend that on a burger, you're probably going to go somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:23:35 I'm not a fan answering that question because I don't, I'm not saying never, ever, ever go to a fast food outlet again, but I think we all know we need to eat less fast food, less UPFs. And so I don't think that very renowned people should be, I feel very strongly actually, like renowned people, celebrities, whoever it is, people have influenced, I really feel strongly that they shouldn't be advertising food that's not very good for us. I think the Pepsi days are over. You know, like Beyonce, Brittany, that one big ad, I remember it with pink, were all advertising Pepsi. Do you remember it was like huge?
Starting point is 00:24:09 Those days are done. And they should be done. It's not right. It really isn't. It's everyone's choice to eat how they want and find their own balance. But I don't think we need people making it seem more appealing to eat food that's not very good for us and adding that like, shoulda say quah, kind of like aspirational element. I don't think that's. We don't need to make this food any more aspirational than it kind of already is in our culture. I agree. And I feel this is a very clever marketing loophole.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Correct me if I'm wrong, Ellie. You understand more about this than I in the industry. But you can't advertise a specific product now after, can you, the watershed ban, you know, the advertising ban before 9pm. So would they just use Gordon Ramsey next to a Burger King's store and just not show the burger and then still get to advertise to children and families and everybody. Yeah, that's my understanding on it. So I think in sort of separating the two questions,
Starting point is 00:25:00 I think we both feel quite strongly that I don't think you should use your influence to be paid a huge amount of money to advertise things we know aren't very good for people. Generally, it's people paid well enough. And then it just like, I think it's absolutely wrong that Coca-Cola can sponsor the Olympics, but or McDonald's or whoever else. But I think when it comes to the junk food ban aimed at stopping junk food adverts before nine, and trying to use that to tackle childhood obesity, will it have any impact? I don't think so because it comes back to the same problem,
Starting point is 00:25:28 which is you can still advertise the brand, and you can therefore still put the brand top of mind and make the brand look cool and aspirational and appealing and use people's favourite footballers or singers or whoever it needs to do that. So people still want to be a part of that world. And I thought a lot about this after we discussed it the other day, Re, and I just feel honestly, and I'm a black and white thinker, and I'm overly, you know, binary in things,
Starting point is 00:25:53 and that's not necessarily helpful. But on that basis, I just think, like, either choose economics or choose health. And ultimately, I feel like by allowing you to advertise a brand, but not a product, you're choosing neither, and that's just a cop-out. Like, either allow people to do whatever they want
Starting point is 00:26:11 and give complete freedom of speech, advertising, you know, people can sell what they want, stop taxing it, all the rest of it. Don't have the high-fat sugar-salt implicate. just go for it, just let people sell what they want and make loads of money and employ loads of people and support industry in the economy, although you'd argue that, you know, bad health has an impact on the economy, or go after our health and stand up and say, let's eat real food again. It's almost the per opposite to what Jamie Oliver's done, what Gordon Ramsey's now doing. Totally, but I just think, sorry, I know, I mean more from the junk food ban. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:26:41 I just think it's like, let's choose one or the other. Let's choose to genuinely support our health, in which case this ban does almost nothing in tackling the nuance and compliance and compliance. of child and obesity, or just let people advertise and, you know, at least support the economy in that sense. It's like, I just feel like it's not a better world. It's a kind of no one wins on either side. It's sad. I think you're right. Everything you've just said, 100% we need to be doing better. And you're right, the banner just is not, it's not good enough. It's just not good enough. It just feels like an annoying hurdle that people still go over. So don't put it in place or make it something they can't jump over. Well, we're going to finish on a more positive question. Our
Starting point is 00:27:19 last question is from Catherine listening from Northamptonshire, Oxfordshire, mostly on her work commute. So she said, no, we're exotic. Unfortunately, I think we must have picked so many exotic questions, Ella. She said, one quick question, Ella, I think this is probably for you. What blender do you use or recommend? She said, I love making the date chocolate peanut bars from Ree's book. And then she said in brackets, Harry, as if we're mates and regular meat up for coffee. I mean, I love that. And I've tried Ella's ginger and apple shots, but I struggle with a standard blender. So she said, could I? I have one gadget that does it all. Please don't stop.
Starting point is 00:27:52 As a country, we need change. We need change for our children and future generations plus the planet. And the more people you two reach, the more impact you will have. So thank you. I mean, Ella, that's what we were just talking about. It's good. We're discussing it. It's great.
Starting point is 00:28:06 And also, guys, please share the show with anyone you think it's helpful because we want to reach more people. Oh, click subscribe. We need to ask people to do that still. We keep forgetting to do that. Yes. Yes. What's big podcasts do that. Yes.
Starting point is 00:28:18 please do exactly click follow the show share it on your socials your friends and family it makes all the difference i unfortunately not to end on a the high we wanted katherine the answer is no i don't think there is one gadget that does at all which is really annoying and maybe one day we'll create one i i say that we're not working on anything but i agree with you because i wish there was one thing that did at all but to do um the like ginger and apple shot or the lemon and turmeric shots. Ideally, you need a juicer. You can do it in a blender and then strain it. So that would be one thing, but a blender, which you're using, blenders need liquid, essentially. So juices make juice. Blenders make liquids and you can push that up to a hummus, but you think a hummus or a dip
Starting point is 00:29:01 still has liquid in the oil or adding water, for example, to it. Then if you want to make something like Ree's bars or energy balls or something like that where you're crushing dates, nuts, etc., you need a food processor. So food processors like a Magi Mix, they don't need liquid. So you can kind of get away with not having a juicer by just blending what you want to juice and then straining it to remove the pulp. But unfortunately, a blender and a food processor are completely different things. And generally speaking, you will just break it.
Starting point is 00:29:32 So if you have a Nutrile, a super popular blender and you try and make those sort of basal energy balls in that, you'll probably just break the blade. Not necessarily first time, but you will. because they need a liquid. As I said, you can stretch it to doing a hummus or a pasta, but that still has oil. It still has a liquid in there. So I don't think there is one gadget that does it all, unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Ella, this could be your new Dragon's Den style project, a blender that does everything. And Catherine had a final point to her question. She said, and I can quickly cover that, Catherine, also asked where to go about finding a nutritionist to support diet changes after a diagnosis of various health challenges. So anyone can search the AFM register or the British Dietic Association Register. If it's a health condition that needs chronic health condition, you need a dietitian.
Starting point is 00:30:24 If it's something you can probably manage in a public health space, you need a nutritionist. Obviously, you can email the Retrition Clinic if you want, info at Retrition.com, and we can probably point you in other places if any of our dietitians or nutritionists aren't suitable. But what I will say to everybody listening is do your due diligence. you know, do your research on nutritionists because so many people say they're registered, then they're not. You actually have to check the register. And it's actually shocking. You can get naturopaths that say they're nutritionists.
Starting point is 00:30:53 They have huge followings. I've seen one recently of over a million followers online claiming they can cure everything and they're not. So you really need someone that understands you and your body. And that's my only little final note, Ella, on that, because I just want you to make a blender now. Okay, and do you know what? We'll squeeze in one very quick last question before we wrap up because we told you we would discuss red light masks. And that's from Franzy, who said the beginning of December, I turned 40
Starting point is 00:31:20 and I was contemplating how to treat myself of entering a new century, or a new decade, maybe what we mean? I listened to the last podcast episode of the year and think I found the answer a red light face mask. Specifically, I like the fact that this one, as you'll re-discuss, is backed up by some evidence. Can you share what brand you'd be recommending? I think we both use the current body one,
Starting point is 00:31:41 But really, we've got a voice note for us having you on red light masks, whether they work, whether they don't work. Does the hype live up? There are different types of lights. There's blue lights, red lights, green light. And actually, the evidence behind them is good. But you need to be mindful of what machine you get to make sure you're getting enough of it. Because if you're not getting the right dose, you might not see the results that you want. So I actually do like red light.
Starting point is 00:32:05 And I've used blue light before helps with acne. But you've got to get the right device. So what does the red light do? So red light is good for rejuvenation and redness. So it boost collagen production in the skin. So I do need to get a red light. So that's quite nice. If you can do put your red light on, maybe do like a 10 minute meditation if you have time. So thank you so much for that.
Starting point is 00:32:25 I think it's really good to actually have, I know it's one of our recommended wellness trends, wasn't it, at the beginning of the year, but a gadget that has evidence behind it, Ella. Absolutely. I totally agree. And as always, Kauai's thanks for listening. We love being here. We'll be back Monday. And we did really mean it. if you love to show, please share it far and wide because we want to get this kind of empowering, accessible wellness to as many people as possible this year. Yeah, so thank you for being the best community of wellness group
Starting point is 00:32:51 ever. Thank you for listening and we'll see you Monday. Bye. Bye.

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