True Crime Campfire - Amazon Music Presents SUSPECT: Vanished in the Snow

Episode Date: November 1, 2022

For more than three and a half decades, the disappearance of 12-year-old Jonelle Matthews was a mystery – a riddle neither authorities nor her family members could solve. The residents of her cloistered Colorado hometown had scoured every inch of prairie. Jonelle’s face had been on milk cartons nationwide. Even the President of the United States had appealed to the public for help. Still, every lead had fizzled. Every person of interest had turned out to be a dead end. Then, in 2019, Jonelle’s remains were unearthed near the foothills of the Rocky Mountains. With the discovery came a troubling new question: Had the truth been hiding in plain sight the entire time? Was the man who couldn’t stop obsessing over Jonelle’s disappearance also the person who took her? From Campside Media and Wondery comes season two of SUSPECT. Former CNN reporter Ashley Fantz and executive producers Matthew Shaer and Eric Benson (Suspect, Over My Dead Body) dig into one of the most mind-bending cold cases in modern history, in an attempt to separate fact and fiction, compulsion from guilt, and true-crime fandom from a motive for murder. Hey Prime Members, listen to the Amazon Music exclusive podcast, SUSPECT: Vanished in the Snow, in the Amazon Music App. Download the app today. http://www.amazon.com/SUS_us_pfd_AA_110122.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support.

On a winter night in a small community near Denver, Colorado, Jim Matthews arrived home late. He expected to find his 12-year-old daughter who'd been dropped off after a Christmas concert. But when he called out, hey, Janelle, the house was eerily quiet. His daughter's shoes were on the floor, but she was gone, and it would be 35 years before she would be found, dead. After the discovery of Janelle Matthews' body in 2019, the police turned their attention. to a man who had told law enforcement years ago that he knew something, but they dismissed him. The man did seem obsessed with the case, but is that all he was? A true crime fanatic? Or a killer? Now a jury will decide if Janelle's murderer was hiding in plain sight the entire

time. Wondery and Campside Media's shocking true crime podcast suspect is back for a second season with a story that attempts to separate fact from fiction, compulsion from guilt, and one man's true crime obsession from a motive for murder. I'm about to play you a clip from the show. While you're listening, make sure to follow the Amazon Music exclusive podcast suspect, Vanished in the Snow, in the Amazon Music app. Download the app today. Welle County is a desert. relatively warm outside for Colorado in December, and the sky is just this Caribbean blue. It's winter, but it's hot out, dry, and dusty. The snow-capped Rocky Mountains are all behind us.

Ahead, it's flat. The horizon goes on forever. I feel like we're in the Wikipedia of Tumbleweeds. Don't you feel rich in Tumbleweeds? Yeah. Oh, shit. People terror. ass down this road. A few of the trucks passing us are souped up, brand new, tires jacked high, oil and gas workers apparently unbothered by speed limits, if there is a speed limit out here. We're relieved to turn into a dirt driveway of a lone rambling house. Hi guys! Hello again! Hi! Oh no, nice to meet you. I'm Jody. Vance and Jody Gillilin lives so far from most of their neighbors

that it's easier to drive to see them. Across from their house is a field that stretches about 1,000 acres. It's full of brush and weeds. The kind of place where people often, well, abandoned things. Old mattresses, washers and dryers, even boats. It's like, wow, almost tended to hook that up and take it home and see what I can do. But, no, I mean, people still do dump things out here, but it's usually quick and rotten, quick and right.

I mean, what, they can show off the back of a truck in two seconds. In the summer of 2019, Vance and Jody were in their kitchen when they saw blue and red lights flashing across the perimeter of their property. All of a sudden, there was cop cars going by, and I was like, uh-oh. Up until it was dark, actually, they were out there. and they were out there forever. Vance and Jody soon learned those oil and gas workers

and their fancy pickups, they'd unearthed a small human skull with a single bullet hole in it. And authorities knew exactly who the remains belonged to. It is a cold case that has baffled the Greeley community for nearly 35 years, but tonight, police may be closer to figuring out what happened to Janelle Matthews.

The 12-year-old did. disappeared from her home in late 1984. Her remains were discovered this week by a construction career in rural Weld County. Gone for 35 years. Today, human remains founded an oil and gas site in Greeley, give investigators new leads on a decades-old cold case. Like a lot of Colorado residents

who had been following Janelle's case since the 1980s, Vance and Jody watched the news reports with fascination. They waited to hear what would have. happened next, hoping that the remains in the field would finally lead investigators to the killer. As it turned out, it wouldn't be nearly so simple. This is a story about obsession, my own, sure. So I am working on a podcast about the Janelle Matthews case. I know you know about that case, right? I assume you're probably well versed. I thought I'd try you one last time. But also the obsession of a community that kept pushing to find Janelle to get her name into the national spotlight and all the way to the White House.

For example, I learned about Jonel Matthews of Greeley, Colorado, who would have celebrated a happy 13th birthday with her family just last month. And it's about the obsessions of a self-described true crime junkie, a man who had started talking about the Janelle Matthews case. just a few days after police responded to a distress call from her home. And over the next 35 years, he kept talking and talking. It was just me trying to be a big man in the case. He's a busy body. He gets himself in the middle of murder cases, but that doesn't necessarily mean he actually was involved in them.

People are like, oh, he's just crazy, and he's just a ding bad or whatever. and he's harmless. He wouldn't hurt anybody. He's such a good liar that he can convince the juror that he wasn't involved. So, you know, he's a liar. He is. He's a good one.

I turn around and I said, you're going to be arrested for obstructing if you don't get back in your car. And he says, don't fuck with me, Officer Edgerton. I've buried more people than you'll know. When you shot Janelle Matthews in the forehead, was she begging for her life? Never happened. Hey, Prime members, listen to the Amazon Music exclusive podcast Suspect Vanished in the Snow in the Amazon music app. Download the app today.