True Crime Campfire - Episode 16: Diazien Hossencofft: Aliens, Con Games and Murder Pt. 2

Episode Date: November 29, 2019

Join Katie and Whitney for the conclusion of this bizarre story, the first in our "Just Bananas" category. Sources: Book: September Sacrifice by Mark HornerTelevision shows: "Sins and Secrets," Episode "Albuquerque""Snapped," Episode "Linda Henning""I'd Kill for You," Episode "Killer Alien""American Justice," Episode "Traces in Blood"Follow us, campers!Patreon: https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: [e-mail] a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support.

Hello, campers. Grab your marshmallows and gather around the true crime campfire. We're your camp counselors. I'm Katie. And I'm Whitney. And we're here to tell you a true story that is way stranger than fiction. We're roasting murderers and marshmallows around the true crime campfire. In part one, we introduced you to cartoon gargoyle and con man Dyson Koff, a man who was most definitely not what he seemed to be. Dyson and his wife, Gurley, Chu, were in the process of separating, and Dyson had threatened Gurley to the point where she was basically in hiding from him. And we told you about the first mistress Hassenkopf worked his con artist Magic on during his separation from Gurley. Join us now for Part 2 as we tell you about the others. One of them was about to derail a promising life in order to hitch her wagon to Dyson's dubious star. We now continue with aliens, con games, and murder. Next up was motel owner girlfriend Julie McQuire.

Hassenkoff told her he was dying of leukemia, and he told her the story about his wife and kid being killed in a car crash. And she got the most bizarre alien in government conspiracy stories yet. He told her that his son, Dimitri, had been genetically engineered by the NSA along with 11 other children using Hosenkov's genetic material because he is the peak of human DNA. He's a Nietzschean Superman. They were going to be superhumans, super intelligent, super strong, blah, blah, blah. So the X-Men, basically. Uh-huh.

And I'm sure he's, he's Dr. X. Yeah, of course. So, when McGuire asked why Dimitri was always saying, Girlie, Girlie, Girlie, Girlie, which is just unbelievably sad. He was like a toddler at this point, yeah. So sad. He said that the project that created him and the other future superheroes was called Project Girlie. For God's sake.

He told her that aliens lived on the dark side of the moon, and there were good aliens and bad aliens. and he himself was half alien. He told her she had been visited by the good aliens in her sleep and now had an implant in her nose. She was one of the chosen ones who would be allowed to leave Earth before the evil aliens attacked. He also told her he could get her a 90% discount on the youth serum. Only $3,000 per treatment. Wow.

Yeah, what a great deal. She jumped at it. because people are dumb as bags of hair, apparently. And he said that in order to prepare her treatment, he'd need to draw some blood. Again, with the freaking blood draw. She allowed this. I swear to God, you guys. Unbelievable.

Do not let anyone outside of a doctor's office. It's just creepy. Take your blood. It's just creepy. I mean, unless you're into that sort of thing, I guess. We're not here to kink shame anybody, but, ew. Yeah. Don't let Hosenkov do it because, ew.

Don't, don't let. Just don't let Dysonkov do it, just specifically. I'm thinking, you know, if that is the case, you're in, like, a, like, a committed relationship. Yeah. You're not. And you're probably, like, hanging out at a goth club and, like, you know what you're there for. You're not getting.

Just a fritter just randomly come up in a relationship. Yeah. A medical, a medical procedure from, from your, your boy. So. So. One night, Julie was about to fall asleep when she heard Hossenkoft whisper, Feel relaxed, feel relaxed, feel relaxed in her ear. She thought he was trying to hypnotize her.

And of course, she just sat up and said, uh, what the hell are you doing? And apparently, Hossencoft seemed really confused that it hadn't worked, which is just a Yeah, that's hysterical. And I can't imagine very many things, like, less relaxing than having that little gargoyle going, relax into my ear repeatedly as I'm trying to get a good night's sleep. Galam would be more comforting, I think. Yeah. So later he told her the NSA had a hit on him and Dimitri, partly because he'd given her the youth serum at such a steep discount, and partly because Dimitri and the 11 other children had the potential to be too powerful to rule the world. because the government, the government just realized they got in too deep. They did too good of a job. Yeah. They're in over their heads. So, and we're not ready for the X-Men.

We've tampered in God's domain. Yeah, yeah. You know, and McGuire got really attached to Dimitri. And after a while, she became suspicious that Hassancoft was abusing him. She'd noticed bruises on the little boy's body, and the kid seemed wary and afraid of his dad. And for the record, Dmitri was just an angel of a child, just a sweet, sweet boy. Everyone loved him. So awful.

And, yeah, so. Poor little sweet pee. Gullable, though she might have been, Julie had a good heart. She cared about Dmitri. So she started asking for help from friends in social services to help the kid. She also shared Dyson stories with a friend who'd worked for the NSA, and he told her, uh, yeah, this guy's full of shit. Haston?

Yeah. You needed to ask a guy who worked for the NSA. And also, by the way, he wouldn't tell you even if he wasn't full of shit, Julie. This goes back to season one of true crime campfire. No one works for the NSA. No one works for the CIA. Nope, just big empty buildings. They're not going to tell you.

Yeah, if they tell you, they'll just be like, yeah, I work for the government. Yeah. They're not allowed to share that stuff, y'all. It's a scam. Yeah. Geez, Louise, people. Okay. Anyway, please carry on.

I'm sorry. I just get a little worked up about the scammers. Hassenkoft started changing around this time. He'd always been even keeled, but now he seemed paranoid and moody, like up and down, drinking a lot. This is around the time that Gurley was trying to divorce him, unbeknownst to McGuire. McGuire's former NSA friend ran a background check on Hosencoft, and McGuire found out he was you know, full of shit, like he said. But she stayed in contact to try to help Dimitri. McGuire, in a stroke of absolute genius, eventually convinced him to find a family to adopt

Dimitri. And as far as she knew, Hassancoft was dying of leukemia. So this made sense. Obviously, Hassancoft was getting bored of fatherhood because he pretty much immediately agreed. There were a couple of botched attempts. Then finally, they did find a family to take Dimitri, and that was that. This is why the FBI interviewed Gurley. Remember we mentioned that earlier? A social worker involved in the adoption was looking into Dimitri's parentage because Hosenkoff initially told her that Gurley was the kid's biological mother, which was easily disproven by medical records. Okay, so we're going to switch gears for a minute and talk about a woman named Linda Henning, or as we like to call her Linda Lemming. You'll see why. So Linda Henning was born in 1953 in Los Angeles, and like Dyson, she had a fairly normal childhood. Not a ton of money, but not dirt poor either.

Her dad left when she was young, and she didn't get along very well with her stepfather. But other than that, you know, she was a normal kid in high school. She was bright and curious and involved in a ton of extracurricular activities. And she had a string of boyfriends, because again, irritatingly pretty, just like Tracy Richter. She's very pretty. She was a Fredericks of Hollywood model for a while. Like, you've got to come correct for that, you know, to be a lingerie model. But she would be devastated when the relationships ended, and she showered each boy with absolute worshipful devotion and adoration.

Her mother said, Linda would believe the moon was made of green cheese if a boy had said it, which is just so sad. Despite these obvious self-esteem issues, though, Linda made a success of herself. She modeled for a while, then had a successful career as a fashion designer for a bit. Then she moved on to a successful career as an accountant. Everything she did, she was successful at. She was making good money. And then at some point in the late 80s, early 90s, she got interested in UFOs, as many people in New Mexico are.

That's where Roswell happened and all. And she joined a UFO club. Then she got into David Ike and his big bag of bullshit. And here's where we start to see the cheese slide right off of Linda's Cracker. so if you're not familiar with David Ike oh boy so I'm going to level with you here we're not going to go too far down this rabbit hole because to be honest as far as we know we only get one precious life and we just really don't want to waste any more of it than we have to on this dingus but basically he's a conspiracy theorist who started out as a famous footballer in the

UK that's the soccer player for our fellow Yanks then said he was Jesus for a while I'm not making this up, and then finally settled on the idea that the world is secretly run by a bunch of reptilian aliens masquerading as the political and corporate elite. Yeah, all those YouTube videos are his fault. Yeah, I'm really not making any of this up. If you're not familiar with this guy, this is all true. The British royals are reptilians, much of the U.S. political scene. I probably couldn't be one because I'm too plebeian. Katie, you're probably not one, but anyway, you get the idea. They're only pretending to be humans, but at night, after they've had a nice dinner of caviar and crickets or whatever, they unbuckle their belts and unzip

the skin suits and kickback as their true scaly selves. I wonder if they lose and regenerate their tails like geckos. I don't know if they're supposed to have tails or not. That's a good question. But they have scales, for sure. They're reptilian aliens. So anyway, their goal is like a new world order or some crap. It all has to do with the Illuminati. A lot of the language these folks use is basically just code for the Jews. So it's racist and anti-Semitic all hell not to mention bloody bat shit crazy and yet he has like tons of followers who just lap it up freaking weirdos anyway i'm not even afraid to offend people i'm sorry i'm just saying it yeah it's just bat shit crazy no that's there's a line between like constructive can we please

not with david yeah i i think that this is a stance we can safely take as true crime i'm gonna yeah i'm taking a stand that david i is a is a um eccentric let's put it that So that's all the time we have for Mr. Ike today, the frickin' lunatic. If you insist, you can Google him and learn more. Just make sure you're swaddled in tinfoil first, because they're always watching. But Linda Henning, bless her little old heart, she fell for Ike, schick, hook, line, and sinker. And it was at one of his seminars in 1999 because this man has seminars, campers, that people pay to attend. hmm i wonder if that's what's behind all that

that he's making lots and lots of money somehow off of this did you mention something about people being dumb as dumb as bags of hair earlier sure did yeah yeah anywho lord have mercy that linda met dyesenhausenkoffed and at the time she was a successful accountant she was doing well financially she was always beautifully put together perfect makeup perfect clothes

and she was engaged to a nice guy that she worked with. And almost immediately, after she met Hosenkov at that David Ike seminar, all that changed. And one of the most amazing things to me about this case is just how quickly Hosenkov got inside Linda Henning's head. Yeah. It's just astonishing. Because between the time they met and the murder of Gurley Chu, a single month had passed. This dude must have snapped his fingers and had her wrapped around his finger it's it's it's astounding not from the moment he said hi my name is dyesen to the like girly chew going missing one month unreal so she absolutely worshipped d as she called him because she couldn't pronounce his name which i find hilarious like if you worship a guy

at least like go to the trouble of learning how to say it's not that hard dison there you go but she just called him D whatever and she bought every word to his alien NSA fringe science

bollocks she let him draw her blood left and right inject her with his blood givers bullshit youth serum

treatments whatever he wanted to do Linda was up for it and they talked about aliens the Luminati

the reptilians the whole thing and she was so excited she brought him to the UFO club and he told him he was thousands

of years old and he was an alien human hybrid and he was a brilliant geneticist and everything and he told

them that a reptilian invasion was imminent, and they had better listen to him if they wanted to be spared. To be spared, they'd have to go to one of a few different vortexes, all of which this cracks me up, we're in the U.S. So it wasn't like, okay, one of them's in Dubai, and one's in New York, and one's in Edinburgh. It was like Paramus and Indianapolis and Albuquerque. That is so stupid. If you're going to make up a lie like that, for God's sake, he's dumb. So within weeks, Linda's friends at the UFO club, most of whom had, like, hated Hosenkofft on site and immediately pegged him for a fraud and a weirdo, noticed that Linda was looking rough, like she'd stopped showering, her speech became kind of weird and speedy and frenetic, which really makes me wonder if he was drugging her because he was injecting her left and right. And I really wonder if he was giving her something. But when a close friend did a background check on Hosenkoft and tried to tell. her the results, you know, all the stuff about, like, he was a con man. He didn't graduate

from med school, etc. Linda freaked out on him. She was like, you've killed him. You've killed him. The NSA is looking for him. And now they're going to know where he is. I never want to see you again and blah, blah, which just goes to show you that conspiracy theorists, people who buy into conspiracy theories, you really can't reason with these people. Because any proof that you offer to counter the conspiracy just gets woven in. It's just this closed loop of unlogic. Absolutely. And you can't break through it.

And that's what's so frustrating about conspiracy theories for me is that you try to offer facts and evidence and proof. And it's just useless. When they're committed enough, it's useless. And of course, Hassan Koff had shared all his NSA horse ducky with Linda. He told her he was a 10,000-year-old alien human hybrid, blah, blah, blah. And then he dropped a bombshell on her that, not. Not only was he an alien human hybrid, but she was an alien, too. She was an alien queen.

Wow. Wow. Yeah. You know, I feel like if you were an alien queen, you'd know. Yeah. But, I mean, what do I know about it? You'd see the zipper in the shower at the very least. You'd feel the tail back there, wouldn't you?

You'd notice that you got real tired and slow moving in the cold, I would think. Anyway, they're supposed to be reptiles, aren't they? Anyway, I feel like you'd know. but what do I know? So anyway, I'm just one of the sheeple. Yeah. That's what they want you to think. Scales have not fallen. Yeah, that's what they want me to think. That's what they do, Katie. There's a clip of Linda Henning being interviewed on some true crime show. I'll try and remember which one so I can post it on our social media and you can watch it. And she's talking about her attorney having her declared incompetent, trying to have her declared incompetent to stand trial because they got her interviewed by the very famous forensic. psychologist Dr. Park Dietz, who I'm sure many of you are familiar with. And Park Deetz was like, yeah, she's probably not competent to stand trial. She's been brainwashed

by this guy and she's very prone to these wild fantasies. And also he said she was a narcissist, which is interesting. And as soon as her attorney was trying to help her by like having her declared incompetence, so she would go to like a treatment facility instead of prison or whatever. She was like, my attorney, that's what they do. They work for the state. That's what she said on the TV show. Like, bitch, bitch, she was trying to help you. Are you serious? Anyway, that's what they do. Anywho, it's hilarious. So he told her she was an alien queen. He said the two of them would be responsible for saving Earth when the invasion happened. And only some humans would be spared when the evil aliens attacked. And their job would be to help get them to safety at these, you know, vortex is over in Paramus and in Indianapolis and wherever they were, right? So, most of us, I'd hope, would hear this and immediately be like, and I'm out. You are either a liar or you are deeply unwell, sir. Please get some help. But I guess if you are

a sad little girl who's dad left her and who's been searching ever since for a male figure to fill that void, as is my armchair psychology theory about Linda Henning, which is really quite sad it was just too tempting to believe that she was special you know she wasn't just linda she was a queen it was just too good i think it was too good for her to pass up so at some point he started convincing linda that there was a rival alien queen who was bent on thwarting her and d's mission to save at least some of humanity and this was a dangerous queen she was allied with the evil aliens and she needed to be stopped, or else all of humanity was going to fall. So campers, think for me for a second. Now, who do we think the rival queen was that had to be

destroyed? Of course, it was poor girly. Okay. Now, let's talk about a guy named Bill Miller. Bill was a friend of Lindas from the UFO club, and apparently he was the only one who didn't think Hosenkov's claims about being a 10,000-year-old alien were nonsense. He was a family man, and by all accounts, a decent father to his kids. However, he was also a conspiracy theorist and had some deeply anti-government beliefs. He believed in David Ike's baloney, for one thing. Now, Bill's role in this isn't very clear, but we know he spent a lot of time with Linda and Hosenkoff that summer. They were the three musketeers.

And Bill told several people that summer that dies in Hosenkoff, his new brilliant doctor slash scientist friend had asked him to kill his soon-to-be ex-wife, girly. Smart, Bill. Way to go, bud. Yeah. We know that at some point that summer, Dyes and Hostenkoff bought a ninja sword and gave it to Linda. I'm sorry, a ninja, a ninja sword. Different.

Wow, we're on brand. We're definitely staying on brands. God Almighty. At some point that summer, Gurley started taking karate lessons for self-deafers. fence. And as we told you earlier, she told her co-workers, if I don't show up for work, if I'm even 10 minutes late, call the police. Nien's Diasen has done something to me. We know that on the evening of September 10, 1999, Hosenkov's neighbor saw him getting out of Linda Henning's car. Hosenkoff was in dark clothes with black makeup all over his face,

arms and legs. She thought it was very weird and considered calling the police, but she couldn't think what to tell them. It's not illegal to be a weirdo, so she did nothing. And at 3 a.m. that night, another neighbor woke up to the sound of a woman screaming, help me, help me. She went to the front porch and looked out, listened. But she didn't hear anything else. She thought it must have been part of a dream and went back to sleep. Man, that sucks. It sucks. It sucks hard. It might have been a totally different ending to the story if she had trusted her original instinct and called the cops. But a lot of us wouldn't. I mean, I've had that exact experience

where I've been, like, awakened by what I thought was like some kind of weird noise. And then I'm like, I must have dreamed it because it wasn't going on anymore. And by the way, can we just for a second? He painted himself completely in black, Katie. Way to be inconspicuous, you fucking moron. Sorry, he's just so dumb. He's so dumb. And if he really worked for the NSA, say, wouldn't he have training, like, being a stealth master? Oh, definitely. I think he'd probably also know better than to be present for the murder. Yep.

Dipshit. I hope he hears this. You're a fucking idiot. Awesome cough. Yeah. We hate your little freaking guts. Can we, like, just, can we just cut out the roasting parts and just send it to him? Yes, please.

I don't know where he's housed and I don't care to know, but it might be worth it. I want to know, so I can start sending him, like, litter bombs and those bags of gummy penises. Here's a bag of dicks, you little gremlin. I hate this guy. I almost hate him more than Matt Baker, I think. It is. He's just such a dipshit. Yeah, I think Matt Baker is a different kind of dipshit.

He's less funny, like, to make fun of, because he's just so gross and awful. I just want a suplex and a dust. Dyson. Yeah. Dyson is absurd. He is a cartoon. And that's, again, we go back to my disgusted size because I'm just like, who is this guy? You're over this guy. I can tell. But, you know, and it's just heartbreaking that the sweet, wonderful, intelligent, warm woman had to lose her precious life because of this little dipshit. It's just the worst thing I've ever heard. It's so unfair. And like, this is, And I know everyone says that, oh, she was, she lit up a room, whatever. But Gurley actually was, you can really tell from the video footage of her. Yeah.

She was a light in this world, I think. And I'm sure her family would agree in her friends. There's a picture in the book, September sacrifice of her and Dimitri dressed up for Halloween. And it made me tear up when I saw it. It was, they just both look so happy. But. So awful.

We're going to get back to awfulness. Screw you, you little rat. Faced asshole. I get really mad about Dyson. No, I'd, I'd love to just give him a flat tire, tie his shoelaces together. I just, he's so, he's such a dipshit. Okay. And on September 11th, as we know already, Gurley didn't show up for work.

And just to recap, by 805, her friends were already panicked. They called police who rushed over and. found Gurley's apartment empty, but with her purse and key still there. They noticed several big, damp bleach spots on the carpet. They found blood on the walls and on the carpet. Soon after, a highway worker found a tarp and clothing lying by the side of the road a few miles outside of town. When he got out of his truck to get the tarp out of the road, he was worried it would

fly up and hit somebody's windshield. He found that it was covered in blood. Police made the connection between the bloody items, the missing woman very quickly, and the blood was eventually found to be girlies. After Gurley's disappearance, Diasin initially disappeared. But eventually, the police were able to track him down. He was in South Carolina with yet another woman who thought they were going to get married and had no idea about Linda or Girlie Chew, you know.

And soon, people started telling the investigators that they should probably talk to Dyson's main squeeze slash disciple, Linda Henning. So they lugged her in for questioning. Initially thinking that she was someone who might give them some insight into Hasenkoff, their prime suspect. But she was so cagey. They caught her in so many lies. She became a prime suspect herself pretty quickly. Good job.

Good job, Linda. I've been cool under pressure. She initially tried to say that she barely knew dies in at first, that she was just his caregiver. Because, you know, he's like dying of cancer, which I repeatedly forget because he's not dying of cancer. And then it's like, why would she, why would she pretend to be his caregiver? Oh, because he's literally dying. Allegedly, literally allegedly dying. They then got DNA results back and realized that Linda's blood was in Gurley's apartment.

And it was aspirated blood, which means that it had been like coughed up or sneezed out, something like that. They found it on the wall at about mouth level for someone, Linda's height, which probably meant Gurley got in a good punch or two for the struggle. Good for her. Good for her. Then all the alien stuff came out. The investigators must have been thinking, what in the fresh hell have we gotten ourselves into?

And soon, they learned that conspiracy nut Bill Miller had told several people that Dyson and had asked him to kill Gurley that summer. And a ton of the creepy shit Hosenkoff had told people, like, that Gurley had signed her death warrant when she asked for half of their stuff in the divorce, because how dare she get, like, any of her stuff? All that came out. They couldn't place Hosenkofft in Gurley's apartment.

Though they did find his saliva on the shoulder of her bloody shirt, at first he was smug. And he told them they'd never prove anything. But then he found out Bill Miller had told people he'd asked him to kill Girlie. And when they told him about finding his DNA on Girlie's shirt, he buckled like a belt and made a deal because he didn't want to get the death penalty. So I think they found some of his hair too, actually, if I remember rightly. They found like a few gray hairs. So he was like totally stupid left evidence everywhere, of course.

You mean the black oil paint on him didn't prevent him from leaving evidence? So, this moron sang like a bird, because he's a fucking coward. And even if a lot of what he said was probably horseshit, namely that Linda wasn't involved, because, like, she totally was. She totally was. He also claimed that Bill Miller committed the murder on his own. Linda was just supposed to be his alibi and wasn't there. this was like obvious nonsense for a number of reasons first because of her blood in girlie's apartment dyesin tried to say he'd planted it there to confuse investigators

slash frame linda and it was true that he had vials of linda's blood in his fridge because he's a freaking weirdo oh my god fridge full of blood guys fridge full blood can we make that a badge, the fridge full of blood badge? Fridge full of blood badge from true crime campfire. But, okay, this was aspirated blood campers, not blood dripped from a syringe as Hosen cough claim. There was blood spatter. It's a totally different type of blood spatter. If you think about it, if you cough up a liquid, that's going to be a totally different shape and a totally different way of hitting the surface than if you're dripping it out of a needle. Whatever. Forensic folks had also found some super sketchy stuff in Linda's credit card

records. She'd bought some interesting items in the days leading up to the murder. For example, a maglight flashlight and a gray tarp identical to the one with girlie's blood all over it. Also, Linda was, you could say crafty. Her house was like full of glitter and art sand and stuff. And when they tested that bloody tarp, they found art sand on it. Well, well, well. Because guess what? Linda had bought art sand at Hoppy Lobby shortly before. for the murder. And they found the same sand in her car and in Gurley's apartment. So things are not looking good for Miss Linda. Not good. Plus, they had several informants who claimed Linda had told them she was involved

in the murder that they'd abducted Gurley and taken into a house. They tied her to a chair and killed her there with mats underneath to catch the blood, which of course echoes the finding of the great harp, doesn't it? One informant said, this is so sad, that Gurley had screamed for help as Bill Miller carried her into the house. So remember what that neighbor said that she overheard at 3 a.m. that morning of somebody saying, help me, help me, and that Hosenkoff had stuffed a gag into her mouth. It was just awful. Now, allegedly, Linda told this informant that she suspected Bill Miller had raped Gurley before

killing her, which I just so much hope is not true, and that she and Hosenkov were planning to put a hit out on Bill so he couldn't tell anyone what they'd done, because Bill had a big mouth. So this informant also said that Dyson planned to escape from prison by dressing like a woman and just walking out, which I'm pretty sure it wouldn't work, but okay. Oh, it's that simple. No one. That is a Dyson plan.

No one ever thought of Bugs Bunnying the guards? That's exactly what it is. That is a Bugs Bunny plan, which fits because he is a cartoon. So this very much validates. my personal theory on why he lied for Linda Henning and said she wasn't involved, because I certainly don't think it's because he, like, loved her or anything ridiculous like that because I don't think Dyson-Koff would know love if he fell over it. So I believe that the reason he lied for Linda is because he wanted somebody devoted to him on the outside

who could help him escape, get revenge on people, kill Bill Miller, God knows what, probably all of the above, and break his dumbass out of prison at some point. That's what I suspect, anyway, is that he. He wanted her on the outside to do his little pathetic bidding. So the informant said that she had letters where Linda had confessed to all this in code. Like she would write poems and there would be like one line in each poem that wasn't in verse. And that would be like, you know, very secretive and very James Bond. But sadly, the informant had had a falling out with a roommate and the roommate had thrown her stuff out.

Oh, God. And in one of the boxes supposedly were the frickin letters if they ever existed, which I think they did. I think all of this totally rings true based on what we know. But we don't know for sure. So anyway, Hassan Koft said that Bill Miller abducted Gurley, brought her out to the desert, killed her and disposed of her body. And he claimed and still claims not to know how he killed her or where her body is. And he said, Linda had nothing to do with it. She was just his alibi.

Sure, bud. We buy it, not. And then there's what I like to call the Bill Miller debacle. So they're looking into Bill Miller, obviously, at this point. and they got a search warrant. They found a whole bunch of stuff in his house and in his, like, truck that matched stuff found in Girlie's apartment. So some of it was he had, like, cats and dogs. They found cat and dog hair from his pets or that were consistent anyway with hair from his pets.

Stuff he used for tying fishing flies, so like dyed feathers and deer hair and stuff like that. So they arrested him, and I'm not going to go into all the details on this. If you want to know them, you can read September Sacrifice. But there was a whole big bunch of missteps, basically, with the way that they brought this before the grand jury. And unfortunately, this ended up getting him indicted on only a few much less serious charges than murder. And he ended up getting like a year's probation or some ridiculous thing like that, which is horrifying because I'm pretty sure he's in this thing up to his eyebrows. So just deal with the awfulness of that, that this Bill Miller asshole is like out walking around. But Dyson had taken a plea, so he was going away for life, thank God.

And then Linda went to trial, and holy shit was at a circus. So Dyson testified for the defense, which, in my opinion, was one of the dumbest moves ever in the history of the U.S. judicial system. Because first of all, this guy is super unpredictable. And second of all, he's just weirder than a $3 bill. and like there's footage of him just like mugging for the camera and his jailhouse jumpsuit like just like Charles Manson and his like he just got up on the stand and his testimony was just bug nuts like and okay here's my Dyson Kofft impression

I'm just going to quote a couple of Dyson's best one-liners from his testimony in Linda Henning's trial murder is a very sticky business you have to play it by the numbers I'm really not exaggerating, like, at all. Like, it's probably more cartoonish than I just made it down. Yeah, that was, like, very conservative. We're going to try to find a clip and put it on our social media so you could see that we are not lying about what a cartoon, this little dweblet, is.

Murder is a very sticky business. And they asked him something at one point, and he's like, how much indeed. I shit you not. That's how he talks. how the prosecutor did not just bust a gut laughing and roll around on the floor and just helpless with laughter with tears rolling down his face. I don't know. I think the prosecutor deserves a medal for that just because he didn't just laugh in the guy's face because I would have been dying. I can tell you right now. The first time he said, indeed, I would have just been like

I'm sorry, I can't, your honor. This guy is ridiculous. Anyway, so he just got up there and made a spectacle out of himself. Didn't he say something along the lines of like, Like, if you sentence her to death, you'll be killing my last victim. He's like, if you want to execute this woman, go ahead. If you want to put a needle in her arm, that's fine with me. I don't care if you kill this woman. The only thing you'll be doing is killing my next victim. And Linda looked smug as a bug after that.

She was just like, mm-hmm, nodding. Like, she thought she had it all sewn up. Now she claims that she always knew she'd be convicted. But, oh, I saw her face after he said that. She was like, I'm walking out of here, yeah. Yeah. Because, see, she doesn't get what a freaking weirdo he is. She thinks he's great.

She wrote to him in a letter that he had always been like a god to her. She's known him for like a month. I know. It's the weirdest thing I've ever heard. She's like a Manson woman. Seriously. And like there's court footage and like news footage of her walking to and from the courtroom and stuff. And she looks like a Manson girl.

Like she's got the wild eyes. And she just looks like one of the Manson woman. women. She even looks a little bit like Leslie Van Halton. Yeah, and she's like sashing around and staring at the camera. She yelling about conspiracy theories to the news cameras and everything. That's what they do. Shut your freaking, you're such an idiot. Anyway, so of course, his testimony just blew up in their faces because he's such an obvious liar in con artist, like an admitted liar and con artist. Like he said, I'm not an alien. I'm not a doctor. Like, I'm a con man. He got right up on the stand and said that. And so obviously, it didn't.

didn't go well. So Linda was convicted and sentenced to life plus 43 and a half years in prison and she still maintains her innocence and she has a blog that she writes from prison, which has to be seen to be believed. And it's sad actually because you can tell from her writing that she's actually an intelligent person. She just has zero bullshit filter and she's committed to having drunk every tiny little drop of the conspiracy theory flavor aid. Like that is what she has committed to and that's it we're never digging her out of that conspiracy theory hole she is in that loop of nutso logic and she ain't coming out and we're the rest of us are just sheep right so campers we want to share just a few little bizarre postscripts to this story because we know you love

them so first i want to talk about just how hard the investigators worked to try to find girlie choose body i mean they tried they used a ton of resources they went out there the detectives themselves with the search crews and dug in the hot desert i mean they looked and looked and looked for this woman and park deets the forensic psychologist or no sorry not park deets but a colleague of park deetses had told them that people tend to dump their victim's bodies within 25 miles of where you find dumped clothing which i thought was really an interesting Just a little fun fact. I never knew that before. So they kind of used that as their guide, and they searched a huge area of the desert. And unfortunately, they never were able to find her body, but it was not for lack of trying. And it devastated them to have to give up because they wanted so badly to bring her home to her family. So I wanted to give them a shout out for that. I actually think the Albuquerque PD did a pretty stellar job on this case. Oh, yeah. Prosecutors messed up with Bill Miller, but the investigators, I really can't fault them. Yeah, and yeah.

It's unusual for me. Her family is, I usually can find something. And her family was absolutely devastated. The true family. Oh, God. Her brother came to Albuquerque for Linda Henning's trial. And he was like he'd get up in film evidence for his parents. Yeah.

And like in the intermissions and stuff. And it was, it's heartbreaking. She was just the light of her family. And people just adore this girl. It's just, it is so awful. So that was one thing I wanted to tell you about. And then you guys, I have to tell you about the letters that prison guards intercepted between Linda and Dyson while they were both in jail awaiting trial. So this is before Dyson decided to plead before Linda's trial.

So we're going back in time a little bit. But they exchanged, I think it was like 20 something different letters, which they were not supposed to do because felons are not supposed to communicate with each other, like felons in prison. But they find a way, they go through third parties and stuff. And so they exchanged a bunch of letters and some of it was coded and like Dyson would have symbols. for certain words and stuff like that because he's a fucking dork. Anyway, so in addition to waxing eloquent about the sex that they'd had before they got arrested, and I kid you not, they claimed that when they had sex, they both morphed into giant cat creatures.

Take a moment. Giant cat creatures, and they called it cat sex. Great. One word, all caps. Cat sex. That's the sequel to cats, I think. God. Cat sex.

And apparently it was hot. Like, Linda was into the cat sex. And she was missing that cat sex bad now that she was in prison. And she wrote all about it in her letters to Dee, which, by the way, you know, again, she wasn't supposed to be writing. So cat sex, folks. Lord have mercy. And Dee and Linda wrote back and forth about Linda's alien queen status, drew pictures of aliens that they claimed to remember from the time before they, like, came down in the mothership or whatever the hell. was talked about the government and all its nefarious deeds that the average sheep on the outside

had no idea about, et cetera, et cetera. Completely keeping up the conceit, by the way, that he was in 10,000-year-old daily. Like, he later said at her trial, like, I lied about all that, but very soon leading up to her trial, they were still writing back and forth about it and everything. She's bought it hookline and sinker still. So I think that she probably just thought he got up on the stand and lied to the man so that he could get her off. I think she's still completely believed, like, I don't think she bought that he was a con man or whatever. Anyway, that's just my opinion, but that's what I think. So they wrote all about their alien bollocks, and they also wrote some really worrying stuff about a final sentencing for some of the witnesses and investigators

in the case and their families, which is terrifying. She said they'd wear the mark of death. Now, this was talk that sounded an awful lot like a plan to hire somebody to kill these people. And they worried that that specific somebody might be Bill Miller, which is one of the reasons why they went after him as hard as they did and they found by the way like a ton of guns in his house so it was not like necessarily an unfounded fear okay so one more thing i'm going to tell you and this is cuckoo bananas so when hoshenkofft was first locked up he somehow ran a foul of a gang member who was in the same lockup as he was and these two dudes just immediately just hated each other And, I mean, for one thing, Hosenkoft is short and kind of small, and he's got that little cartoony voice and everything.

So I'm sure, like, to some extent, it was just like playground mentality of like, oh, you're little and you talk funny and I'm going to pick on you. But, you know, Hosenkoff really is kind of a scary dude. So they had this, like, vicious rivalry going. And this is all according to Hosenkoff's cellmate at the time, who said that Hosenkoff was hands down one of the scariest people he's ever met in his life and that he was somebody who he was 100% certain would kill at the drop of a hat just to eliminate a problem. And apparently, according to this guy, Hosenkoft attempted at one point to murder this gang member and apparently several of his gang member buddies as well by purchasing some bean dip from the commissary

and somehow managing to grind up a bunch of glass and put it in the bean dip. And then he was going to serve it to these people, which why they would eat it, I can't imagine. Like, that seems to be the flaw in his plan. If they're like bitter rivals, I wouldn't eat anything he gave me and I'm not even as bitter rival. No.

But this was his plan. He was going to give this, like, glass-laced bean dip to this gang member and his buddies and hope it killed him. Sure. Which I'm sure it wouldn't have done him any favors. I don't know if it would have killed him. The cellmate that, like, relayed this story said, I can just imagine this dude with a bloody asshole. That might have been the worst that happened.

But I don't know. I mean, could that kill you? Probably it would not be good for you. It could have perforated your intestine or something. So anyway, that's terrifying. And the only reason it didn't happen is because I think the guy got transferred, like, to a different cell block or something. And so Hosenkov lost his access to him. But he was planning on going through with it, apparently. Yeah. And then didn't Hosenkoff, like, because Hosenkoff and his cellmate were separated, didn't Hosenkov ride him and be like, why don't you try to get transferred to me?

And, like, tried to get his cellmate to come back and live with him. I think so. Yeah. They had kind of a. of a little friendship going, even though the cellmate has expressed that he thinks he's a really scary person. But, like, the cellmate ended up befriending Linda Henning and, like, helping them run letters back and forth, I think, if I remember right? So, yeah, but, but, uh, Hosen Cops. He's scary. Yeah. And Hossen Cops spent most of his time in prison bragging about, or I'm sure he still brags about how he pulled off the perfect crime, which. Yeah, supposedly he said that Gurley had, he turned Gurley into spaghetti sauce and said he used acid.

dude you are specifically in prison for her murder murder murder is a very sticky business katie you have to do it by the numbers and he talks about like how it's important to be methodical so that you don't get caught it's like okay you did get caught you got caught almost immediately so maybe we don't want to take your advice it was 805 when she was reported missing my dude and you were immediately literally got caught instantly so You're bad at this the way you were bad at med school. But I'm... And zing!

Anyway, this is why you fail at everything, Dyesin. He's going to have us kill us. He can't listen to this. My dear Whitney. We just hate him so much. Mirder. He's a sticky business. That's just the funniest thing because it's such a cartoon thing to say.

And then he, yeah, I committed the perfect crime, my dear cellmate. Yeah, which is why I'm sitting here in my orange jumpsuit right now. It's the worst. Oh, Katie, do the thing where you say, crime is not about not getting caught. It's about the attitude. Okay, I couldn't remember what I said, but yeah, I'll do it. You see, my dear roommate,

crime is not about not getting caught. It's about your attitude. It's fine if you get caught as long as you do it with flair. Nash. Good gone. All right. Anyway, ooh, Lord. So this was a wild one, right, campers? You can see why we put it in the just bananas category. And, you know, in all seriousness, we're glad that Gurley's family got some degree of justice. But the saddest part of any criminal prosecution is realizing that, you know, a conviction doesn't bring your loved one home. It doesn't bring them back. Girlie's still gone and we still don't know where her body is. And she was a great person and she had no way to see a nightmare like Hosenkov coming. And she's just, didn't deserve this at all. And I just consider it an act of supreme injustice that this little dweeb came into her life and took it away from her. And I'm sure he's still totally

remorseless about it too. Like he was reveling in the attention during Linda's trial and everything. He has absolutely no conscience. And anyway, so we hope that Gurley's family can bring her home someday. I really hope someday they'll find her. And certainly they, you know, they have found remains this far out before. Yeah, absolutely. to bring people home. So I hope she gets to go home to her family in Malaysia someday. So next week, we'll have another episode for you, campers, another stranger than fiction story. But for now, lock your doors, light your lights, and stay safe until we get together again around the true crime campfire. You can follow us on Twitter at TC Campfire, Instagram at True Crime Campfire,

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