Under the Influence with Terry O'Reilly - S4E02 - Controversy Advertising

Episode Date: January 11, 2015

This week, we tackle the topic of Controversy Advertising. The number one job of all advertising is to get attention, and many brands choose to use controversial advertising ideas to break through the... clutter. It’s a risky strategy, as controversy always courts trouble. We look at how Kmart used controversy to blow the dust off its staid image, how Kimberly-Clark used an eyebrow-raising idea to sell a discrete product, and we tell the story of how one advertiser tried to sue his advertising agency for generating the wrong kind of controversy during the Super Bowl. Hope you’ll tune in. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, it's Terry O'Reilly. As you may know, we've been producing a lot of bonus episodes while under the influences on hiatus. They're called the Beatleology Interviews, where I talk to people who knew the Beatles, work with them, love them, and the authors who write about them. Well, the Beatleology Interviews have become a hit, so we are spinning it out to be a standalone podcast series. You've already heard conversations with people like actors Mark Hamill, Malcolm McDowell, and Beatles confidant Astrid Kershaw. But coming up, I talk to May Pang, who dated John Lennon in the mid-70s. I talk to double fantasy guitarist Earl Slick, Apple Records creative director John Kosh. I'll be talking to Jan Hayworth,
Starting point is 00:00:46 who designed the Sgt. Pepper album cover. Very cool. And I'll talk to singer Dion, who is one of only five people still alive who were on the Sgt. Pepper cover. And two of those people were Beatles. The stories they tell are amazing. So thank you for making this series such a success. And please do me a favor, follow the Beatleology interviews on your podcast app. You don't even have to be a huge Beatles fan. You just have to love storytelling. Subscribe now and don't miss a single beat. new year new me season is here and honestly we're already over it enter felix the health care company helping canadians take a different approach to weight loss this year weight loss is more than just diet and exercise it can be about tackling genetics hormones metabolism felix
Starting point is 00:01:43 gets it they connect you with licensed healthcare practitioners online who'll create a personalized treatment plan that pairs your healthy lifestyle with a little help and a little extra support. Start your visit today at felix.ca. That's F-E-L-I-X.ca. From the Under the Influence digital box set, this episode is from Season 4, 2015. Your teeth look whiter than noon, noon, noon You're not you when you're hungry You're a good hand with all the teeth You're under the influence with Terry O'Reilly. Everyone is out to get my fanny.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Everybody wants to see my fanny. Everybody likes to hold my fanny. When Benny Samberg grew up on the Lower East Side of Manhattan, he had dreams of being the next Irving Berlin. So, in the 1940s, renaming himself Benny Bell, he peddled songs with titles like Ooh La La Wee Wee and Noses Runnin' My Family to music publishers. But no one bit.
Starting point is 00:03:33 When he couldn't get a song on the radio, a friend suggested he write racy tunes for another medium, the jukebox market. Because while the police were raiding record stores for obscene recordings, they left jukebox market because while the police were raiding record stores for obscene recordings they left jukeboxes alone. So Benny took the advice
Starting point is 00:03:51 and started writing suggestive and controversial tunes that became big hits on the jukeboxes in bars and cocktail joints. Songs like My Grandfather Had a Long One about his grandfather's nose, I'm Going to Give My Girl a Goose for Thanksgiving, and Everybody Wants My Fanny
Starting point is 00:04:10 rang out in popular bars across New York. Over his lifetime, Benny Bell wrote over 600 songs, and one of his biggest hits was called Shaving Cream. I have a sad story to tell you. It may hurt your feelings a bit. Last night when I walked into my bathroom, I stepped in a big pile of shaving cream.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Be nice and clean Shave every day and you'll always look keen Pretty controversial stuff in 1946. Thirty years later, in 1975, a radio DJ named Dr. Demento found a copy of Shaving Cream in an old record store and started playing it on his show. It eventually climbed
Starting point is 00:05:08 to number 30 on the Billboard Hot 100. Finally, Benny Bell enjoyed the success that had eluded him in the 1940s. Benny couldn't get his controversial
Starting point is 00:05:20 Shaving Cream song on the radio back in 1946, but 1975 was another time and place. Knowing when to court controversy is a hot topic in the advertising world too. It's a risky strategy, and how much advertisers can get away with is constantly changing.
Starting point is 00:05:45 And with the introduction of the Internet and sites like YouTube, it's another time and place for advertisers. The temptation is greater than ever, because the potential payoff of using controversy advertising promises untold riches to the lucky ones. But get it wrong, and an advertiser will find itself stepping into a big pile of shaving cream. You're in the influence. The use of controversy in advertising has a long history.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Ad historians cite the famous Woodbury's Facial Soap print ad done in 1911 as the first controversial ad of the 20th century. It showed a man caressing a woman from behind, kissing her neck, with the headline, A Skin You Love to Touch. It was scandalous, because it was the first time sex had been used as a selling tool in advertising.
Starting point is 00:07:01 In the 1950s, advertising emerged from the war years with a conservative tone, as a well-scrubbed, leave-it-to-beaver sensibility dominated pop culture. As I've mentioned before, advertising agency Doyle Dane Burnback created a television commercial for incumbent President Lyndon Johnson in 1964, who was running against Republican Barry Goldwater. The commercial showed a little girl standing in a meadow, plucking the petals off a daisy flower while counting each petal slowly. One, two, three, four.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Her counting transitioned into a missile countdown. Eight, seven, six. Her counting transitioned into a missile countdown. The little girl looks up, alarmed, while a huge mushroom cloud explodes. Then we hear President Johnson say, These are the stakes. To make a world in which all of God's children can live, or to go into the dark. We must either love each other, or we must die.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Vote for President Johnson on November 3rd. The stakes are too high for you to stay home. The ad immediately sparked controversy. It has been called the most effective political attack ad ever done in advertising history. It only aired once, as Republicans demanded
Starting point is 00:08:31 it be taken off the air, outraged that Johnson would even suggest that Goldwater was pro-nuclear war. The commercial was also cited as the first to become
Starting point is 00:08:42 a media event, as the ad's controversy generated news reports in all the major TV, radio, and newspaper outlets. Daisy, as the ad was called, helped give Johnson one of the biggest majorities in American history. Ten years ago, we did an episode asking, have ads gone too far?
Starting point is 00:09:03 But that was when a new thing called YouTube was just getting off the ground. The Internet, of course, has changed everything. And because the web is not regulated, advertisers can now get away with more controversy than ever before. Discount store Kmart was created by Kresge founder Sebastian Kresge back in 1962. Once the nation's biggest discount retailer, Kmart has struggled in the last 20 years with competitors like Walmart. In 2013, Kmart found itself struggling with constant out-of-stock issues, and reports suggest they were losing over 50% of intended purchases due to empty shelves.
Starting point is 00:09:56 So, Kmart's advertising agency, called DraftFCB, had to find a marketing solution to an inventory problem. While analyzing Kmart's business for an answer, they stumbled upon a little-known service that made Kmart's vast online inventory available to in-store shoppers. It was called Store to Home, and it promised that if you couldn't find what you were looking for in-store, Kmart would order it for you online and ship it to your home for free.
Starting point is 00:10:30 The retailer aimed this service at a younger segment of the market, women aged 21 to 45. Kmart described these women as proud and outspoken with an appetite for edgy, boundary-pushing humor. So with only a small budget, Kmart channeled Benny Bell from the 1940s and launched this commercial on Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube. Ship my pants. Right here. Ship my pants. You're kidding.
Starting point is 00:10:59 You can ship your pants right here. You hear that? I can ship my pants for free. Wow. I just may ship my pants. Yeah, ship your pants. Billy, you can ship your pants too. I can't I can ship my pants for free. Wow. I just may ship my pants. Yeah, ship your pants. Billy, you can ship your pants, too. I can't wait to ship my pants, Dad. I just shipped my pants, and it's very convenient. Very convenient.
Starting point is 00:11:14 I just shipped my drawers. I just shipped my nightie. I just shipped my bed. If you can't find what you're looking for in store, we'll find it at Kmart.com right now and ship it to you for free. Within 24 hours, the ad had gone viral. It was picked up by media outlets across the country. Within eight days, it had attracted 15 million views on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:11:41 With that success, Kmart moved the ad to select television networks. But, with all the attention, came backlash. The Today Show asked if Kmart had gone too far. Offended consumers sent hundreds of messages to Kmart asking that the ad be pulled. Kmart responded politely to each complaint, but kept the commercial on the air. Next, Kmart released another ad telling shoppers they could save 30 cents per gallon on gas purchases. The ad centered around big gas discounts, which, when said fast, sounded more like... That's a big-ass discount. Big-ass discount. A really big-ass discount.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Really big-ass discount. Honey, this solves your big-ass discount. A really big-ass discount. Really big-ass discount. Honey, this solves your big-ass problem. It didn't take long for the non-profit family values group One Million Moms to demand that Kmart yank the ad, calling it disgusting and offensive. They asked their membership to send Kmart emails and boycott their stores. But Kmart kept the ads running. It was an interesting strategy. The store was historically positioned as a family-friendly retailer, yet this campaign ran counter to that
Starting point is 00:12:53 image. But the ad agency's goal was to get people talking about Kmart again, and to jumpstart Kmart's dusty image. This is always a risky strategy because an advertiser has to walk a tight rope of not offending existing customers while trying to attract new ones. By the end of 2013, Shit My Pants had accumulated over 30 million online views, ranked number 11 on the top viral ads of all time list and inspired over 100 parodies. But the real test was, did the controversy sell product? While the advertising agency claimed
Starting point is 00:13:33 the campaign led to a monthly sales increase of $1.4 million, Kmart's overall sales fell 2.1% in that quarter. Some critics suggested the controversial campaign hurt Kmart in the long run, because while it suggested Kmart was getting hipper, shoppers were finding the same old boring store when they walked into it. And when advertisers demand attention getting work from their ad agencies, but don't follow through at the store level,
Starting point is 00:14:05 the disconnect can create a whole new set of problems. Usually, controversy advertising is employed by new products and companies, hoping to attract much-needed attention in the critical launch period. So it's always interesting when established brands go that route. Back in 1992, Kimberly-Clark launched a product called Poise for women who suffer from light bladder leaks,
Starting point is 00:14:39 or LBL for short. As a marketing challenge, it's a subject nobody wants to talk about. And there are no good euphemisms that make talking about it any easier. But last year, Poise launched a new product called Poise Micro-Liners with new super-absorbent material called SAM. This new SAM innovation was described as a shockingly thin liner that redefines the light incontinence category. According to Kimberly-Clark, one in three North American women between the age
Starting point is 00:15:14 of 30 and 40 suffer from LBL, which is usually brought on by coughing, sneezing, exercising, or laughing. This younger market was unlikely to buy Depends, which is another Kimberly-Clark product. So, the company launched Sam with this commercial. I love Sam. Sam knows how to take care of a woman. Sam is also very small, but Sam can last for hours.
Starting point is 00:15:45 I have Sam in my pants right now. Sam, it's super absorbent material from poise, but those little leaks, it's crazy thin. And look, I wish I had Sam in my pants. New poise microliners. Get a free sample at poise.com. While Poise had a history of talking to women in a lighthearted way, the commercial was polarizing. Kimberly Clark said the response was overwhelmingly positive,
Starting point is 00:16:21 with a nine-fold increase in sample requests. But while many laughed at the humor, just as many were completely offended. Like the reaction from one million moms who never overlook a controversy with their two million eyes. The group called the ad, quote, the most disgusting commercial Kimberly Clark had ever produced. Again, it was an interesting strategy.
Starting point is 00:16:44 The product is discreet, but the advertising wasn't. By definition, controversy advertising is meant to trigger debate. It ignites both positive and negative views. While it gets big attention, it also creates enemies. For an advertiser, it's always a big gamble. Kimberly Clark, despite the blowback, didn't pull the commercial off the air. Although, I noticed there was a new version of the ad on YouTube, one that was edited substantially
Starting point is 00:17:16 and was now missing the key phrase, I've got Sam in my pants. But did the controversy pay off? According to the parent company, the campaign scored a 0.4 share gain and a 6.7% sales lift, which translates to big money in the $1.4 billion incontinence category. One reviewer said the ad was ingenious because it made women laugh, creating the need for the product right on the spot.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Then, there is Poo-Pourri. You would not believe the mother load I just dropped. And that's how I like to keep it, leaving not a trace that I was ever here, let alone that I just birthed a creamy behemoth from my cavernous bowels. Nothing is worse than stinking up the shared toilet at work, or the toilet at a party, or your lover's apartment. The commercial was entitled Girls Don't Poop, and the product is called Poopery. So, how do you make the world believe your poop doesn't stink?
Starting point is 00:18:25 Poopery! It's a deodorizing spray that creates a protective film on the surface of toilet bowl water, preventing odors from escaping. The ad went viral immediately, garnering over 6 million views in a single week. Creator Suzy Batiste said she was inspired by having to share a bathroom with her husband and two sons. And she knew that many women have pooping anxiety, with 64%
Starting point is 00:18:52 of women saying they were very uncomfortable when their mates knew when they were doing their business. Reactions to the online commercial were overwhelmingly positive, with the vast majority of viewers loving the humor. Girls Don't Poop became the third most viewed viral ad worldwide in 2013, with over 29 million
Starting point is 00:19:14 views to date. Sales increased by 90%, and the Poo-Pourri company expects between $50 to $60 million in annual sales this year. And we'll be right back. of classes built to push you. We know how life goes. New father, new routines, new locations. What matters is that you have something there to adapt with you, whether you need a challenge or rest. And Peloton has everything you need, whenever you need it. Find your push.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Find your power. Peloton. Visit Peloton at onepeloton.ca. If you're enjoying this episode why not dip into our archives available wherever you download your pods go to terryoreilly.ca for a master episode list Not every controversial commercial is humorous. Last year, Hyundai ran a commercial that showed a man trying to commit suicide by running a hose from his exhaust pipe into his car. He fails in his attempt because the new iX35 Hyundai only emits water vapor and is harmless. The reaction to the ad was swift and overwhelmingly negative.
Starting point is 00:20:53 People were outraged that the auto manufacturer would use suicide to sell cars. The ad was created in Europe and Hyundai North America immediately distanced itself, saying it was shocked and saddened by the inappropriate UK commercial. Hyundai UK pulled the ad from YouTube later that same day and issued an apology. In a subsequent posting, the car company said the video was created without Hyundai's request or approval, which is odd because Hyundai uses an in-house advertising agency. It's surprising when a big advertiser can be so tone-deaf in its marketing. And on the Internet, as we all know,
Starting point is 00:21:38 videos can never really be completely deleted. Anti-smoking advertising has always been one of the more creative public service categories. Recently, Canadian advertising agency BBDO created a video aimed at teens who smoke socially or only occasionally at parties to warn them that social smoking can lead to addiction. The video was called Social Farter. Sometimes I'll use farting as an excuse to meet a guy. Do you want to go outside for a fart? We talk. We fart.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Just because I fart at parties now and then, it doesn't make me a farter. Then, a sentence appears on the screen that says, Social smoking is as ridiculous as social farting. Social smoking is smoking. The video was a viral sensation, chalking up over 1.7 million YouTube views. It was a somewhat controversial video,
Starting point is 00:22:51 one that would probably have a difficult time getting clearance on conventional television. The goal of the ad was to start a conversation around the perils of social smoking. Social media monitoring company Sysomos tracked online conversations before and after the campaign and found that after only two weeks, conversations had increased 8,600%.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Yet, when 16 youth-targeted anti-smoking ads were tested with teens at six Ontario high schools, social farter came in dead last, with only one in five kids agreeing it was effective. The studies showed that while teens found the ad amusing, they collectively felt
Starting point is 00:23:35 the humor undermined the serious message. It's a tough call on this commercial. The controversial nature of the video got a lot of attention in a cluttered space, and attention is job one. Plus, offline conversations are hard to track. The trick is not to let the controversial idea drown out the message. In case nobody's told you, weight loss goes beyond the old just eat less and move more narrative,
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Starting point is 00:25:32 with iGaming Ontario. While the Super Bowl is the biggest night of the year in advertising, it also places the most pressure on advertising agencies. The ultimate goal, of course, is to be just controversial enough. But maybe one of the most telling stories on the dangers of controversial commercials had to do with a company called Just For Feet. Just For Feet was a shoe retailer that Forbes listed as number six on its list of America's fastest growing companies. The retailer had secured a commercial slot for the third quarter of the Super Bowl
Starting point is 00:26:20 and was very excited. But when the ad finally ran on game day, mouths all across the country fell open. The commercial seemed to show four white men in a military Humvee hunting a barefoot black Kenyan runner through the savannah. They catch up to him, drug him with some liquid, and force him to wear some shoes from Just for Feet. Super Bowl viewers called it appallingly insensitive.
Starting point is 00:26:50 People started calling Just for Feet just for racists. The CEO of Just for Feet said he was badgered into running the ad by his ad agency. He said he was flabbergasted by the idea, but the advertising agency assured him it was the way to get attention in the Super Bowl. They said they knew better than the client what would work, that they were the advertising professionals, and that it was the best work they had ever done. The client said no. The agency said yes. The client resisted. The agency persisted, the client eventually relented. So, after the Super Bowl, Just for Feet did something very unusual.
Starting point is 00:27:36 They sued their advertising agency for $10 million. The lawsuit stated the ad was so offensive it amounted to professional malpractice. It was an unprecedented lawsuit and it sent chills down the back of the advertising industry because it had the potential to inhibit an industry that is compensated and awarded for pushing the envelope. The advertising agency put forward a motion to dismiss the case, but a judge struck it down. The lawyers for the shoe company countered by saying that
Starting point is 00:28:13 when a company hires a professional advertising agency, the agency has to be held accountable for their recommendations, that the standards of the profession had been breached. The advertising agency's defense was simple, that the standards of the profession had been breached. The advertising agency's defense was simple, that it couldn't be sued for violating professional standards in a field that has none. The advertising industry held its breath. Then, a few months later, Just for Feet filed for bankruptcy and the suit disappeared.
Starting point is 00:28:51 The controversy within a controversy was no more. Someone recently said that there is no shortage of brains in the advertising industry. It's the vertebral column that's missing. But having backbone in marketing needs to be counterbalanced by a heavy dose of common sense. Because employing controversy in advertising is a treacherous path. On the one hand, if done well,
Starting point is 00:29:19 it can shower an advertiser with attention and millions of dollars in sales. On the other, if ham-handed, it can lead to substantial backlash. Kmart hit the sweet spot between humor and controversy, but failed to move the needle. Sam in My Pants risked marketing a discreet product in a non-discreet way, and it paid off. Poo-Pourri threw caution to the wind, embraced bathroom humor,
Starting point is 00:29:47 and laughed all the way to the bank. Whereas Hyundai committed the ultimate sin by choosing the wrong kind of controversy with an ad that will forever float around the web. Then there's the cautionary tale of Just for Feet. Can a client sue its advertising agency for raising too much controversy, especially when a client has final say on what gets approved? A company's reputation is a precious thing.
Starting point is 00:30:19 But in this fractured media universe and the wild west of the Internet, the temptation to dance in the jaws of controversy has never been greater. It always comes down to one question for marketers. Has their advertising shipped their pants when you're under the influence? I'm Terry O'Reilly. Zip, zip. Zip, zip. Zip, zip.
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Starting point is 00:32:01 at terryoreilly.ca slash shop. See you next week. In case nobody's told you, weight loss goes beyond the old just eat less and move more narrative, and that's where Felix comes in. Felix is redefining weight loss for Canadians with a smarter, more personalized approach to help you crush your health goals this year. Losing weight is about more than diet and exercise. It can also be about our genetics, hormones, metabolism. Felix connects you with online licensed healthcare practitioners who understand that everybody is different
Starting point is 00:32:34 and can pair your healthy lifestyle with the right support to reach your goals. Start your visit today at felix.ca. That's F-E-L-I-X dot C-A.

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