Under the Influence with Terry O'Reilly - S4E10 - The Sharing Economy

Episode Date: March 8, 2015

One of the biggest factors fuelling the sharing economy is the mindset of the Millennial generation. A demographic bigger than the Baby Boomers, Millennials have been conditioned by the Great Recessio...n to shed the responsibility of ownership. They want the movie, but not the DVD. They want the music, but not the CD. They want the ride, but not the car. That attitude is beginning to have an enormous impact on marketers, as the biggest consumer demographic in history would rather share than buy. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, it's Terry O'Reilly. As you may know, we've been producing a lot of bonus episodes while under the influences on hiatus. They're called the Beatleology Interviews, where I talk to people who knew the Beatles, work with them, love them, and the authors who write about them. Well, the Beatleology Interviews have become a hit, so we are spinning it out to be a standalone podcast series. You've already heard conversations with people like actors Mark Hamill, Malcolm McDowell, and Beatles confidant Astrid Kershaw. But coming up, I talk to May Pang, who dated John Lennon in the mid-70s. I talk to double fantasy guitarist Earl Slick, Apple Records creative director John Kosh. I'll be talking to Jan Hayworth,
Starting point is 00:00:46 who designed the Sgt. Pepper album cover. Very cool. And I'll talk to singer Dion, who is one of only five people still alive who were on the Sgt. Pepper cover. And two of those people were Beatles. The stories they tell are amazing. So thank you for making this series such a success. And please, do me a favor, follow the Beatleology interviews on your podcast app. You don't even have to be a huge Beatles fan, you just have to love storytelling.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Subscribe now, and don't miss a single beat. From the Under the Influence digital box set, this episode is from Season 4, 2015. You're so king in it. Scores of it in an instant. Your teeth look whiter than noon, noon, noon. You're under the influence with Terry O'Reilly. There is only one fate worse than death,
Starting point is 00:02:27 and that is moving. The reason moving is so painful, of course, is because you suddenly rediscover all your stuff. You never really know how much stuff you have until you have to move it. Because we are a society of consumers, we have now become a society of storage renters. Nearly 1 in 10 households in the U.S. rents a storage unit.
Starting point is 00:02:56 That represents a 65% increase since the year 2000. 60% of those renters already own a garage, 47% have an attic, and 33% have a basement, yet they still feel the need to rent additional space. The country with the biggest self-storage industry in the world outside the United States? That would be Canada. There is currently about 2.3 billion square feet, or 210 million square meters, of storage space available in North America. In other words, it's an area three times the size of Manhattan Island. There's an extraordinary amount of unused stuff sitting idle in storage facilities.
Starting point is 00:03:49 We have so much stuff in our lives that the self-storage industry has been the fastest-growing sector in commercial real estate over the last 35 years. But an interesting shift is afoot, one storage facility owners aren't happy about. It's a movement that resists ownership. A movement where people are happy to borrow when they need things. They're happy to rent out their apartments to people they don't know, or accept rides from complete strangers, or share power tools with people they've never met. It's called the sharing economy,
Starting point is 00:04:27 and it has already worked its way into automobiles, accommodation, transit, food, clothing, home improvement, and even employment. It's a brand new world of transactions where everybody wins, except marketers. You're under the influence. The sharing economy has two main elements, either the sharing of goods or the sharing of services.
Starting point is 00:05:12 That's why it's also called the P2P market, or peer-to-peer, because it eliminates the need for traditional big corporations. It's a person-to-person transaction. In a nutshell, it's the sharing, bartering, lending, trading, or swapping of goods without having to own them. Rachel Botsman, who wrote an excellent book on the subject entitled What's Mine is Yours, explains it this way. She says sharing products without owning them is based primarily on products
Starting point is 00:05:39 with a, quote, high idling capacity. For example, there are over 80 million power drills in North American homes. I own one. Me too. Do you know the total time an average power drill will be used in its lifetime? Answer, 13 minutes. In its lifetime. Do you own a car?
Starting point is 00:06:09 Chances are your car will sit in your driveway 23 hours a day. That's the definition of idling capacity. Many of the products in our lives simply sit idle and unused. And that's why people in North America spend 20 billion dollars on storage facilities. So it begs the question, why own a drill when you can just borrow one once in a while? The average car costs about $8,000 a year to run. So, the sharing economy asks, why own a car when you can just share a car with someone else? From this thinking new companies have been born for example if you want to borrow that drill you could log on to neighbor goods dot com in the US it's a website that connects people with items to people
Starting point is 00:06:59 who need items the best part is the neighbor goods website facilitates the transaction by connecting you with someone in or near your neighborhood and charges nothing its mission to help people conserve resources and live more connected lives in cities like Toronto or Halifax you can borrow that drill from the tool library comm for a membership of just $50 a year, you have unlimited access to tools, big and small. There are 40 tool libraries in the U.S. and a half dozen in Canada. You also have the option of swapping goods. There are many websites like swapitshop.com or swapcity.ca that connect you to people who have goods they want to trade.
Starting point is 00:07:50 So, if you have the box set of Season 2 of the TV series 24, you can post that you want to swap it for, say, a toaster. Then wait for a reply. What you're seeing here is a lot of goods changing hands and none of it involves a traditional corporation, a brand, or even a marketer for that matter. Let's talk car ownership. For decades, you only had a few choices. You can buy a car, lease a car, or rent a car. Then along came companies like Zipcar. Suddenly, you can rent cars by the hour, or even for an hour, instead of by the day,
Starting point is 00:08:40 a concept that revolutionized the car rental industry. While Zipcar is not a sharing site per se, it did begin to alter the mindset of car ownership. Many people now had the option to rent a car for occasional errands instead of owning a car that sat idle for most of the day. The Washington Post just reported that the U.S. government is experimenting with ZipCars. Instead of maintaining a fleet of 200,000 vehicles at a cost of $430 million, government employees who only need cars for a few hours will now rent ZipCars or use other car-sharing sites, helping the government shave millions off transportation budgets.
Starting point is 00:09:32 It's not good news for big auto manufacturers who count on fleet sales to the government. Rachel Botsman tells of a fascinating study Zipcar did in 2009. Zipcar took 250 self-confessed car addicts from 13 cities and convinced them to surrender their keys for a month. So, if they wanted to go somewhere, they had to walk, bike, or take transit. After one month, participants collectively lost 413 pounds. Distance biked increased 132%, and distance walked increased 93%. But here was the amazing stat. 100 of the 250 participants did not want their keys back. Remember, these were car addicts, and they had lost their urge to own. That wasn't just an interesting stat.
Starting point is 00:10:25 It was a revelation. Suddenly, new online companies launched to serve that growing segment of the population who no longer want to possess a car. One is called Uber, where you can use an app to hire private cabs and town car services. An offshoot of Uber is called UberX. You simply tap the UberX app on your smartphone.
Starting point is 00:10:55 It knows exactly where you are due to GPS location data. And you can watch a clock countdown how many minutes it will take for the UberX car to reach you. UberX says its fares are about 40% cheaper than cabs. And here's why. All the vehicles are driven by vetted, regular people in their own private cars. Not cabs. Regular people in their own cars. And when you're dropped off at your location, no cash is exchanged. The fare and
Starting point is 00:11:26 tip are automatically added to your credit card. Uber is growing at an incredible pace and is already valued at $40 billion. As of this writing, it provides just over 1 million rides a day and is now in 53 countries and 250 cities. With those numbers, the big losers, of course, are cab and limo companies. In the States, another car service is called Lyft, spelled L-Y-F-T. It monetizes empty seats, connecting regular people with cars to fee-paying passengers. In the beginning, all Lyft cars had big furry pink mustaches attached to the grille.
Starting point is 00:12:17 It was a humorous way to differentiate the brand in the marketplace. But as the car-sharing service matures, it has now eliminated the furry exterior stash and opted instead for a small glowing one mounted on the dash. You're also told a little about the drivers who offer to pick you up. Once inside a Lyft car,
Starting point is 00:12:38 you'll always be greeted the same way. The driver will fist bump you. It's a Lyft tradition. And like UberX, the fare is charged to your credit card. Peer to peer, no cab or taxi company involved. If you want to rent out your own car that's sitting idle in your driveway, you can list your car with RelayRides.com in the States. The website will rent your car out for you and give you 75% of the rental charge, which is found money for you and a bargain for renters
Starting point is 00:13:22 because it's still cheaper than renting from an established rental company that's great news for everybody except Avis Hertz budget and the rest of the car rental category if you want to carpool in the sharing economy you can use live rides calm here in Canada download the app then you'll have the choice of carpooling to work or school with a friendly stranger. You're sharing the passenger seat, and the driver is earning money going the route they were already going anyway. Everybody wins. Everybody, that is, except cab, limo companies, and public transit.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Oh, and the major car companies. By the way, when the major car manufacturers were being bailed out by the government, car-sharing memberships increased 51%. And we'll be right back. If you're enjoying this episode, why not dip into our archives, available wherever you download your pods. Go to terryoreilly.ca for a master episode list. A site called SharedEarth.com matches people with land to share with people who want to grow things.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Gardeners get free access to backyards by sharing what they grow with the owners. What if we dramatically increased the supply of land available to grow local food by converting plots of land and backyards into productive gardens? Welcome to Shared Earth, a non-profit organization that connects people who have land with people who want to garden or farm.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Within three months of its launch, 29 million square feet of land had been shared. There are really two fundamental building blocks of the sharing economy. One is the belief that access trumps ownership. The other is trust among strangers. All sharing sites use reputations as currency. Borrowers rate lenders, lenders rate borrowers,
Starting point is 00:15:43 and you can flag another member's account if something goes wrong. Those two concepts had their roots in two things. A generational attitude shift and an economic downturn. When the Great Recession hit a few years back, many people lost their jobs, some lost their homes, and the way most people lived was completely recalibrated. Job insecurity and fear of making big, expensive purchases changed people's behavior. Virtually every one of the sharing sites I'm talking about today was started during, or immediately after, the last recession.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Then there is the demographic impact. The millennial generation, born between the early 1980s and the early 2000s, are a larger group than the baby boomers, and by 2030 they will make up 75% of the buying public globally. Along with that clout comes a unique way of looking at the world. They don't see ownership as empowerment. They see it as a burden. They want the movie, but not the DVD. They want the music, but not the CD.
Starting point is 00:16:53 They want the ride, but not the car. Not only do they not want ownership, they don't want the responsibility of ownership. As the New York Times recently said, the only thing they want to own is their reputation. A good reputation
Starting point is 00:17:09 is like having a giant key that will open multiple doors. Young people just don't want to own the door.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Many millennials watch their parents struggle through the recession, and they themselves are still having a difficult time finding stable jobs in a post recession economy as a result they have
Starting point is 00:17:29 been culturally programmed to rent borrow and share and the sharing economy is giving them options Take a website called TaskRabbit. Essentially, it's an online marketplace for chores. If you need your laundry picked up, or your garden weeded, or a piece of IKEA furniture assembled, you post that request, and vetted people, or rabbits, will respond within 30 minutes. Each will offer different skills and rates, and you pick the person you want.
Starting point is 00:18:13 TaskRabbit now offers 30,000 rabbits in select American cities. It is the perfect definition of the sharing economy, offering the efficiency of matching people with money and no time with people with time and no money. Here in Canada, you can log on to kototo.com or askfortask.com. If the sharing economy still seems too new and unproven to you, know that venture capitalists have invested heavily. And one of their biggest investments to date
Starting point is 00:18:48 is in a sharing site called Airbnb. One day, two design grads in San Francisco figured they could make a few extra bucks by offering air beds in their loft to people who were attending a design conference in the city. So, they set up a website called airbedandbreakfast.com and made $1,000 in one week.
Starting point is 00:19:20 With that sudden success, the two grads decided to max out their credit cards and build a bigger site with more listings beyond their own apartment. When Obama spoke at the 2008 Democratic Convention in Denver, 75,000 people were attending the convention. But there were only 45,000 hotel rooms in town and they were all sold out so air bed and breakfast invited Denverites to list their homes or apartments or just rooms or couches to travelers the response was incredible within a week they had 800 bookings within a year 100,000 they eventually changed the name to Airbnb, and last year, the site booked over 14 million nights around the world. Travelers can choose from 800,000 listings that include apartments,
Starting point is 00:20:18 homes, rooms, couches, private islands, castles, and even tree houses in 34,000 cities in 190 different countries. Make yourself at home, wherever you go. Belong anywhere with Airbnb. Airbnb is currently valued at over $10 billion. It is eating into the business of low low and mid-priced hotels, and only three hotel corporations have higher market values than Airbnb, Hilton, Starwood, and Marriott. With the sharing economy gaining ground and stealing market share from traditional corporations and brands,
Starting point is 00:21:08 the pushback has been fierce. Uber has been banned in several European cities, and both UberX and Lyft are facing legal fights here at home with established cab companies filing suits claiming car-sharing companies don't adhere to rules and regulations. In December of 2012, the city of Toronto charged Uber with 25 municipal licensing offenses. At Lyft's launch party in Manhattan, taxi companies parked their cars around the venue in protest with signs that said, Lift yourself out of New York.
Starting point is 00:21:45 A cab company in San Jose, California, stated that car-sharing services have taken 30% of their business. It's no wonder. According to Forbes, 50,000 new drivers join Uber every month around the world. The hotel industry is lobbying government
Starting point is 00:22:04 to stop Airbnb in many cities, insisting the website be forced to collect hotel taxes. Smaller economy hotels are feeling the pinch of Airbnb. One such hotel chain in New York said it had continued growth until Airbnb arrived. Others say they are experiencing a 10% drop in business. In case nobody's told you, weight loss goes beyond the old just eat less and move more narrative, and that's where Felix comes in. Felix is redefining weight loss for Canadians with a smarter, more personalized approach to help you crush your health goals this year. Losing weight
Starting point is 00:22:42 is about more than diet and exercise. It can also be about our genetics, hormones, metabolism. Felix connects you with online licensed healthcare practitioners who understand that everybody is different and can pair your healthy lifestyle with the right support to reach your goals. Start your visit today at Felix.ca. That's F-E-L-I-X dot C-A. The collaborative economy shows no signs of slowing down. Some analysts estimate the sharing market will grow from $3.5 billion in 2014 to over $100 billion in just a few years.
Starting point is 00:23:33 With the march of the sharing economy, it's interesting to see how established brands are reacting. The Home Depot, which is in the business of selling tools, is now renting tools in about half of its 2,000 locations with over 4.5 million people taking advantage of car sharing options Mercedes responded with its cars to go service renting smart cars for 38 cents a minute including fuel insurance and parking positioning itself as an option for even shorter rides than Zipcar offers. Speaking of Zipcars, Avis decided to stop competing against Zipcars and bought them. GM invested $3 million in RelayRides.com.
Starting point is 00:24:19 It seems like a strange investment for a car manufacturer. But GM hopes that people sharing a Chevy might be convinced to buy one. And GM can incentivize sales by actually promoting the idea that a new car now comes with a rental income stream attached. Pepsi sponsored a contest across 10 cities in which winners got the services of a TaskRabbit personal assistant for one hour. It allowed Pepsi to get a toe into the sharing world and gave TaskRabbit exposure to a much larger audience. And in maybe the ultimate cross-pollination in the sharing economy, Airbnb hosts hire TaskRabbits to deliver apartment keys to renters.
Starting point is 00:25:05 It's a full-circle moment. Now even the sharing economy is sharing. Could it be that sharing is the new buying? The fact that North Americans spend $20 billion on storage facilities proves there is definitely an idling capacity waiting to be repurposed. While we've been sharing to survive for over 45,000 years, technology has created a universal hub that has never existed before. And a struggling economy has created a universal hub that has never existed before. And a struggling economy
Starting point is 00:25:46 has created a mindset. As Forbes stated, the sharing economy may prove to be the longest-lasting legacy of the Great Recession. It begs a big question. What happens when
Starting point is 00:26:00 the largest demographic group in history, the millennials, decides to share instead of buy. It's bad news for brands, but it has an upside. The sharing economy helps make the environment better without sacrificing.
Starting point is 00:26:16 Less stuff is manufactured, fewer products are purchased, less waste. History shows us these disruptions always start unassumingly small. Then suddenly gather up power and break on the shores of business like a tsunami. Think of music-sharing pioneer Napster. Here and gone.
Starting point is 00:26:38 Then, before we knew it, the music industry was completely underwater. While there are regulatory hurdles and protests, sites like Uber and Airbnb continue to grow, because the ability to scale up is one of the most explosive aspects of the Internet. 20th century laws are going to have to give way to 21st century realities, and big brands that haven't been paying attention
Starting point is 00:27:05 are going to have to figure out strategies to coexist with sharing sites. Either way, a crack has appeared in the foundation of modern marketing. It's no longer a matter of keeping up with the Joneses. It's time to share with them when you're under the influence. I'm Terry O'Reilly. Hi, Terry. It's your neighbor Gordy McIntyre calling.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Your show reminded me that you borrowed my power drill about five months ago. Happy to share, you know, but it's been an uber long time, my friend. So how about you lift yourself off the couch and zip that drill back over. Comprende? Under the Influence was recorded at Pirate Toronto. Series producer, Debbie O'Reilly. Sound engineer, Keith Ullman. Theme music by Ari Posner and Ian Lefevre.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Research, Tanya Moryusuf. Um, do you wear clothes when you listen to our show? If so, have we got a t-shirt for you. Go to terryoreilly.ca slash shop. See you next week.

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