Untold: Opus Dei - Opus Dei, Ep. 4: The closest tabernacle to the White House

Episode Date: April 17, 2026

A sleepy Catholic bookshop and events space run by Opus Dei priests in Washington, has turned into a central networking hub for an ascendant conservative movement. Some of the biggest names on the rig...ht gravitate around it. People close to Opus Dei say that is not a coincidence. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:06 In Washington, D.C., two blocks from the White House, lies K Street. It's a loud, busy boulevard that's known as Washington's Corridor of Influence. It's where lobbyists, law firms and think tanks set up shop. Among the office blocks, there's an unassuming glass storefront with three supersized white letters in its window. CIC, the Catholic Information Centre. The CIC is an event-space bookstore and church. chapel, a place of respite and reflection for Washington's industrious minds.
Starting point is 00:00:42 Here's a promotional video from their YouTube account. Before coming to the CIC, I didn't know enough about my faith. The essence of leadership is understanding the new generation of leaders. You actually have to create a pipeline of leaders who are properly formed. What better model to have in Washington? What better way to evangelize? For high-powered Catholics working in the capital, the CIC is conveniently located to attend a quick lunchtime mass. A metal plaque declares it the closest tabernacle to the White House.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Over the years, a lot of heavy hitters have sat in its pews. Jim Nicholson, who was the Secretary for Veterans Affairs under, I think it was under George W. Bush. I remember Santorum coming a few times. Meaning Rick Santorum, the former Republican. Senator from Pennsylvania. Gingrich's wife, Callista, used to come and shop there all the time. I remember Scalia coming in and buying things a couple times. That's Newt, Gingrich, the former House Speaker, and Antonin Scalia, the late Supreme Court
Starting point is 00:01:51 Justice. Pat Cipollone. Who defended President Donald Trump during his first impeachment trial? Who else? Oh, God. Bill Barr. He was at the CIC all the time. Bill Barr, as in the former Trump Attorney General.
Starting point is 00:02:04 And the voice you're listening to is Leo Mir. He worked at the CIC for the better part of a decade. I remember being impressed by it when I started there that all these important influential people were somehow affiliated with this place and I felt important being somehow connected to that. And at the heart of the CIC, Opus Day. Since the 1990s, the center has actually been run
Starting point is 00:02:36 by Opus Day priests. I think the language we used to use was the Catholic Information Center is an agency of the Archdiocese of Washington, and the spiritual needs of the Catholic Information Center have been entrusted to the priests of Opus Day. During his time at the CIC, Meir began to view all those impressive influential connections in a different life.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Once I learned more about Opus Day and saw how they operated, it was like, oh, this makes sense. If it was somebody rich and powerful and they wanted to talk to the priest or go to confession, the priest would drop whatever they were doing to do it. But if it was just like a regular old grandma with her rosary beads that wanted to talk to the priest and go to confession, they never had time. For many, the CIC is the embodiment of Opus Day's political power, a bricks and water metaphor right in the middle of the swamp. But like Mir, it wasn't until I'd learned more about Opus Day that I could actually make sense of the influence the CIC is having on American political culture.
Starting point is 00:03:39 That's what I'm going to tell you about in this episode. The story of Opus Day's partnership with a new cohort of wealthy conservatives eager to spread its hardline views and how that's put Opus Day on a collision course with the Vatican. For the Financial Times, this is untold Opus Day. Episode 4, the closest tabernacle to the one. White House. Leo Mir started working full-time at the CIC in spring 2005. Fresh out of college in rural Virginia, he was excited by the hustle and bustle of D.C. I grew up in the small town in Ohio, and I wanted to be a priest, and I wanted to be a priest
Starting point is 00:04:27 that said the old Latin Mass. And you know, you'd have people come in, ask some questions about the church and about church teaching, and I'd be able to point them to a book that would answer that question for them, or I'd talk to them about buying statues and medals and Chotchkes. A few years into Mears' time at the CIC, a new director arrived, a priest called Father Arnie Panula. He reminded me of Johnny Carson. The way he looked, they kind of had the same build, that same kind of short gray hair. They had a lot of the same mannerisms, a little bit of a Midwestern accent. That warm, Midwestern tone also left a strong impression on George Weigel, a Catholic theologian and author. Father Arnie was one of his favorite priests. He was,
Starting point is 00:05:10 highly intelligent, very friendly, but 110% Catholic. And I think people found that combination of conviction and accessibility very, very attractive. It was under Father Arnie's leadership that the place really went to a different level of activity and impact. Father Arnie, who died in 2017, was an Opus Day, old timer. For several years, he'd been the head of Opus Day's entire US branch. At one point, in Rome, he even lived with the founder, Jose Maria Escriber. But it would be a mistake to think of CIC as simply an expression of Opus Day. It's a much broader, more engaged enterprise than that.
Starting point is 00:06:04 although it expresses, it's an expression of Opus Day's conviction that lay people are the church and are to be evangelists in the world, especially the work world, which in Washington, of course, means the political world. In that political world, Father Arnie had a vision for the CIC to become more than just a bookstore and chapel. Like everyone in D.C., he wanted to build a network. one that spread Opus Day's message that professional work can be a path to holiness. That's why it had made its home on K Street, among D.C.'s lobbyists. So you might, when people have said, well, this means that Opus Day is power-hungry.
Starting point is 00:06:51 No, it's world-hungry. That's Michael Pekarlock, Professor of Political Economy at the Catholic University of America. He's a married member of Opus Day, or the work, as it's often known. Peter did not go out to the countryside of Turkey to set up the center of the Catholic Church. He went right to the seat of power and he went to Rome. That's definitely in the spirit of the original apostles. So that's what the work does. So Kay Street is where the – it's not a center really.
Starting point is 00:07:19 It's a service. It's like a public service that the work does. But while Mir was working at the CIC, he saw other little ways that Opus Day's spirit shaped the place, sometimes down to the smallest detail. He remembered how strange he thought it was when Father Arnie would reprimand him for putting out flowers or a tray of cheese and veggies before an event.
Starting point is 00:07:43 He would say things like, that's not in the spirit of the work. That's not in the spirit of Opus Day. Well, you know, that's women's work. Like, in Opus Day, like, you wouldn't. We don't have men doing things like that. In the late 2000s, Meir helped Father Arnie launch a more expansive program of events,
Starting point is 00:08:00 talks, book signings, and networking nights at the CIC. Some of Father Arnie's biggest plans involved D.C.'s young professionals. Everything we did there was geared towards young professionals. Father Arnie was like, we got to get these young professionals in here, you know.
Starting point is 00:08:15 As they talked, it became clear to Mir that Father Arnie had a particular type of young professional in mind. You would see the type of people that he considered to be quote-unquote young professionals. You could be 25 years old and be fully employed in a white-collar job, but you weren't a young professional.
Starting point is 00:08:32 young professional. Like his young professionals were people that were kind of on a track to having a prestigious career. They were strategically placed in powerful organizations. Those were the young professionals. What would they call the other people? There just wasn't a name for him. Father Arnie wanted to create fraternity among the next generation of DC Politicoes. But most of all, he wanted to educate them on the church's social teachings. Except again, Mir found, just as Father Arnie focused on a particular type of young professional. He also focused on a particular type of social teaching. The more we talked about it became very clear that the way he was defining church social teaching
Starting point is 00:09:17 was abortion, same-sex marriage, contraception, those kind of wedges issues. But it wasn't Catholic social teaching like feed the poor and shelter the homeless. It wasn't very Christ-like. There wasn't an emphasis on love the weak. Let's build up the weakest members of our community or the people that can't offer you money or power or prestige. Those people didn't matter. Mear watched as the CIC transformed under Father Arnie's tenure.
Starting point is 00:09:48 He developed deep partnerships with its K-Street neighbors and professionals on Capitol Hill, bringing them closer to Opus Day's vision of Catholicism. He saw the CIC as being like a beachhead or a bunker. We're equipping young professionals and policymakers to fight the culture war. They saw that as a spiritual fight, and they were getting their ammunition for that spiritual fight from the Catholic Information Center. Mia, for his part, wasn't that involved in the spiritual fight. He worked in the shop and did the books in the back office.
Starting point is 00:10:22 But he recognized the power of Father Arnie's pitch to the CIC's donors. I remember thinking, oh, this is going to be good marketing stuff. we need to do like a spring and a fall fundraising campaign. That's the kind of thing that's going to look good on a letter to donors saying, this is what we're doing here. We're a very real player in the culture war. But after a few years, Meir decided to leave the CIC. He didn't like the way his faith was being reduced to partisan politics.
Starting point is 00:10:50 It became a place for conservative networking. It was almost kind of like his talking point, like his little elevator pitch on what the CIC was. We were just a nice bookstore in a place for people to go to math, he wanted us to pivot to being a place that equipped people to fight the culture war. This was a platform for them to get their ideas out. The relationship between the CIC and its donors has become increasingly important because it's made Opus Day a key part of a wider movement, a Catholic force within right-wing politics as a whole,
Starting point is 00:11:23 and it's starting to attract the Vatican's attention. Let me give you the backstory. Over the past couple of decades, countless sexual abuse scandals and cover-ups have left U.S. Catholics disenchanted with church leaders. The church has been on the back foot, losing money, parishioners, and its own voice. And that's allowed other characters to fill the void. There are a number of these organizations. Essentially, filling a vacuum created by the lack of any really substantial presence in the culture of Catholic bishops,
Starting point is 00:11:58 whose authority has been diminished. That's Tom Roberts, the former executive editor of National Catholic Reporter, an independent publication. Its readers tend to lean progressive. This was about, began about maybe six years ago, when we began to realize that big money, especially on the right scepter of the Catholic world in the United States, began to just pour enormous sums of money into certain areas of the church.
Starting point is 00:12:25 The thing about this money is that it's coming from, from lay people, wealthy individuals in the pews, not religious leaders. And with it, they've taken over a lot of church-related messaging. They run institutes, newspapers, television. Some help fund the university think tanks you heard about in the last episode. I think we're going through kind of a sea change here in terms of who speaks for the church and they're setting the agendas. They're the influencers, if you will.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Roberts walked me through some of these big-name conservatives, who have also been funding Opus Day initiatives. One of the most forward and public actors is a fellow named Timothy Bush. He's an attorney and founder of something called the Bush firm, which deals in high-end real estate and also wealth planning for very rich people. And he has founded an institution called the Napa Institute, which is an organization that gathers people, particularly from the fall. right of the church and American politics for seminars and day-long gatherings in Napa Valley,
Starting point is 00:13:34 which is a lovely area of California. Bush, no relation to the other famous American Bushes, by the way, has positioned his Catholic Institute in opposition to various progressive ideas, like the Black Lives Matter movement, which he described at a Napa event as promoting racism, critical race theory, and destroying the nuclear family. Tickets to the Napa Institute's conferences, with wine tastings and speakers like J.D. Vance, costs thousands. It's an elite event.
Starting point is 00:14:04 There are other very wealthy Catholics who are part of this mix, including Leonard Leo, who is a profoundly influential actor in American politics and religion. Leonard Leo is a big deal. He's a conservative legal activist who for years has led the Federalist Society, a powerful network of conservative lawyers. He's widely credited for having ushered three judges onto the Supreme Court who swung the balance on overturning Roe v. Wade. Together, in the absence of church leadership,
Starting point is 00:14:36 wealthy laity like Leo and Bush are showing American Catholics how to live their faith in public life. You have an institution that is really essentially leaderless, without a voice in the culture, looking for some identity, and in comes Mr. Bush and others who say, we've got this. We know what Catholicism is about. Tim Bush was talking at one of his conferences.
Starting point is 00:15:02 There wasn't any irony in his voice when he said, we can do things that the bishops can't because we have access to a whole lot more money. And they do. They're using it to build their own systems, their own echo chambers, their own outlets. Leo didn't respond to multiple requests for comment. And Bush declined to comment, by the way.
Starting point is 00:15:23 It's a very conservative theology. It's a very conservative view of the culture. A vision of Catholicism that isn't bothered by a lot of the, especially economic and military questions that were being asked in earlier eras. When it comes to voters in the pews, despite today's abortion politics, Catholics actually split pretty evenly between the two political parties. In 2024, Trump only had a slight advantage. among Catholic voters. So these conservatives aren't the only or even significant majority of Catholics.
Starting point is 00:16:00 But right now, they're definitely the loudest, and they've been facilitated by U.S. bishops. The Catholic bishops had reduced their influence and their big political concerns to the issue of abortion. That became the top issue on all of their political statements, and that gave people like Tim Bush and Leonard Leo essentially cover, if you will. If we concentrate on abortion and gender issues and opposing homosexuality, concern for the poor and immigration and all the rest of it came what they call prudential issues. In other words, they just didn't top the list and wherever they fell well. we can keep working on them. But the thing is, the Vatican has pushed back on this approach. The late Pope Francis actually rebuked U.S. bishops for acting like politicians
Starting point is 00:16:55 and said what he didn't like at all was the idea that the only sins that are relevant are those below the waste. But Opus Day has thrived in this partisan Catholic ecosystem. Both Leo and Bush have given significant donations to Opus Day and CIC initiatives. because for this new conservative donor class, Opus Day has been the perfect partner. Remember, Opus Day is built on the idea of revitalising the faith of ordinary lay Catholics. Its members are elite, hardworking, and, formed by Opus Day, they end up pretty obsessed with sexual morality. From Tradwives to Jady Vance, the American Conservative Revival of the Language of Christianity and Traditional Family Vance,
Starting point is 00:17:44 values, has been further entrenched by Opus Day. Opus Day declined to participate in this podcast, and the CIC didn't respond. So I asked George Weigel, the conservative theologian who was close with Father Arnie, and he gave me another perspective, which is that these issues are front and center within Opus Day, because, from some Catholics' perspective, they're simply more pressing. I think Father Arnie and I would both have agreed that the fundamental issue in the Western world today is who are we as human beings? Are we simply bundles of desires and the state's role is to facilitate the satisfaction of those desires, whatever they may be, as long as nobody else gets hurt?
Starting point is 00:18:38 Or are we more than that? Are we just congealed stardust, or are we more than that? In particular relation to the culture war, like what is men by? That is the culture war. Which side of that argument are you on? But what's an example of that? Can a man become a woman? Should men participate in women's sports?
Starting point is 00:19:00 And Catholic Church has an answer to that. We're more than congealed stardust. we're better than we sometimes think we are, and living the faith can help us live out what Abraham Lincoln called the better angels of our nature. For Weigel, it's not that the Catholic Church has been captured by conservative donors. It's that Democrats in the left have dealt with these questions badly.
Starting point is 00:19:28 And he says that's particularly true when it comes to abortion. There is no room for pro-lone. Chatholics in the Democratic Party, whether we're talking about life issues, whether we're talking about virtually anything in the public realm where moral judgment is involved. The Democratic Party is simply not open to people like me. But I'm not completely convinced by Weigel's argument. The suggestion that Opus Day has aligned itself with these conservatives simply because they take Catholic issues more seriously. Pope Leo and the late Pope Francis have both spoken about abortion on equal terms with other issues of life, like war, the death penalty, gun control,
Starting point is 00:20:23 foreign aid, immigration, and climate change. In the past, spokespeople for Opus Day have told me that it doesn't have a political agenda and that it just follows the teachings of the Pope. But in reality, Opus Day seems to be firmly opposed to the liberalising trend these popes have set. Because the talks and events it programs through the CIC almost always take this narrow focus on abortion, gender and sexuality. And I think the actual reason Opus Day has gained so much power in the US is not just because of its deeply conservative social views, but because it's focused on cultivating and serving the elite. Nearly a third of Opus Day's US members live in D.C.
Starting point is 00:21:12 And that concentration is not a coincidence. In the era of Donald Trump, Father Arnie's vision has come true. The CIC has become a conservative religious hotspot and a surprising number of people in right-wing policy circles in D.C. are linked to Opus Day. people like Ryan Anderson, who runs a powerful think tank called the Ethics and Public Policy Center. Here he is, speaking at a CIC event. Modern feminism seems to be trying to force women to live, to learn, to love, to work as if they were males. Or Kevin Roberts, the man behind the Heritage Foundation and Project 2025, the playbook for the second Trump administration.
Starting point is 00:21:57 He receives weekly spiritual direction from Opus Day. Again, here he is, speaking at a CIC event. Our speaker for the evening, Dr. Kevin Roberts, was named the president of the Heritage Foundation in October of 2021. Thanks. I never get tired of being called a cowboy Catholic. Because it's true. Don't worry, Father Charles, I'm abiding all of D.C. laws here, yes. But at home, we're very well armed. I asked to interview Roberts a year ago, but he didn't.
Starting point is 00:22:27 didn't reply. In response to a pre-publication request for comment, he said this podcast was anti-religious and anti-Catholic and suggested I report on radical Islamism instead. The CIC has also developed even closer ties to Leonard Leo, the founder of the Federalist Society we mentioned earlier, who helped create a conservative supermajority on the Supreme Court. People I spoke to in Opus Day circles told me that Leo has a bit of a celebrity status. within the organization. His children attended Opus Day schools in D.C., and he's a backer of another Father Arnie initiative, a young professionals program called the Leonine Forum. Here he is speaking at a black tie gala the CIC held in his honor in 2022,
Starting point is 00:23:14 where he made reference to criticism of Opus Day. Finally, there are the current day bigots, the progressive Ku Klux Klan. They spread false and slanderous rhetoric about Catholic apostolets and institutions like the one represented here tonight. With the Federalist Society, Leo created a pipeline of conservative legal professionals. And through its partnership with people like Leo, Opus Day has served a similar function in D.C., creating a pipeline of particularly conservative Catholic political types. When I looked up the Leonine Forum alumni, this young professional program backed by Leonard Leo, at least 50 of them worked in the Trump administration.
Starting point is 00:23:57 150 had worked for conservative causes or think tanks. Another 150 for Republican Congresspeople or Republican-appointed judges. It's through this networking, through this shaping of people in positions of power, that Opus Day pushes its particularly reactionary Catholicism into American political life. Take what happened to Margaret Doran, the Princeton graduate from the last episode. Through an Opus Day member at the Witherspoon Institute, Margaret got a role at the Heritage Foundation, working under another Opus Day member on marriage and family issues. Many of her friends, Opus Day members, followed similar paths.
Starting point is 00:24:44 And she finds this concerning. What I see with this community, I saw at Princeton, in the Washington D.C. Catholic community, these people all socialize with one another. They all work together in these universities, think tanks, government positions, and they're all part of this extremely insular and controlling religious group. There are zero boundaries. Margaret believes that Catholics should advocate for their convictions in public life, and she supports conservative values.
Starting point is 00:25:18 That's not her issue. They're not monks or nuns, but they are essentially living out in direct obedience to their religious superiors. You are supposed to tell your spiritual director absolutely everything that's going on in your life. This could be personal things, disagreements with friends, family, co-workers. It could be sins you're struggling with. But it could also be decisions like, what job should I take?
Starting point is 00:25:43 Where should I go to graduate school? What projects should I be pursuing at work? These people are acting to the outside world as if they're making their own decisions and acting freely, when really they are running every single major decision they make by somebody else who might have no role at all within the organization because you don't actually know in these organizations who is in charge, who is really pulling the strings.
Starting point is 00:26:15 They're not sitting around. How do we get an Opus Day member to be president of the United States? That's Jack. You heard from him. him in the last three episodes. He says that Opus Day's formation, the intimate spiritual direction it offers people, is what makes its political power so effective. The concern of Opus Day has always been one-on-one apostolate, dealing with individuals. And that's how Opus Day influences politics, just as Opus Day is trying to influence higher education. It's through drawing these people
Starting point is 00:26:53 into an evening of recollection, drawing them into spiritual direction with a priest, drawing them into a seminar, because the goal is to provide formation to that person, which will then they would say empower from the outside, we might say unduly influence that person, to exercise whatever their function is in society, according to, again, Opus Day's particular view of Catholic teaching, that's going to have very direct consequences in how that person exercises whatever their function is in society, such as a Congressperson voting on a particular piece of legislation. There's a hierarchy of values, and that Congressperson's hierarchy of values may change as a result of their contact with Opus Day.
Starting point is 00:27:48 That hierarchy of values, that's the emphasis on sex and the family I talked about earlier. Together, Opus Day and other conservatives focused on these social issues have guided the Trump administration towards its goals. Transgender people have been banned from the military. State funding has been diverted from contraception access. LGBTQ plus rights have been rolled back. And even for members like Jack, who didn't work in a job related to politics or D.C. at all,
Starting point is 00:28:20 Opus Day still had an influence on how he cast his vote. I did not vote in local or presidential elections until I left Opus Day because I did not feel capable of voting the way I really thought. I took seriously care for the environment, care for the immigrant. I thought that was just as serious as anything else. And I thought that's what the church's magistarium was teaching us through the popes. So I felt really incapable of going to the polls in the United States and voting what I thought. Because in Opus Day, abortion was the number one political issue. In America, riding this wider conservative movement,
Starting point is 00:29:11 Opus Day looks like it's on a path of success. But as its political power has grown, within the Catholic Church, its position has actually become increasingly fragile. Current and former popes have pushed back on how conservative politicians in America have tried to wield their faith. Pope Francis has criticized some of our policies when it comes to immigration. Pope Francis wrote essentially, The Vance did not understand that aspect of Catholic Church teaching.
Starting point is 00:29:41 He said, Christian love is not a... And over the past few years, the Holy See has been scrutinizing how Opus Day is run as an organization. At the request of the Vatican, Opus Day is currently revising its bylaws. Church bylaws may sound a little dry, but what Pope Francis decreed in 2022 was actually a major restructuring of Opus Day. He ruled that its head would no longer be a bishop and also increased the church's oversight of the group.
Starting point is 00:30:11 removing its direct line to the papacy. It is a change that has direct consequences on Opus Day. Opus Day, as we know, will come to an end if those changes are affected. A year later, France has made another public decree that sent shockwaves through Opus Day, clarifying that only Opus Day's priests, not its lay members, are beholden to the group's authority. What is the Vatican hoping to achieve here, Bob? That's not exactly clear, I suppose. this point, but typically you divide something to conquer it, and they're clearly trying to break
Starting point is 00:30:45 something that has existed within Opus Day. Most observers see this as an exercise in sort of clipping Opus Day's wings. These decisions have come at exactly the same time as intense public scrutiny of Opus Day's power and abuses of that power. Both of Francis's decrees came just months after dozens of complaints were made, to the church and in the media, from members of Opus Day around the world, claiming physical and spiritual abuse. In Argentina, federal prosecutors opened an investigation into unpaid domestic servitude in Opus Day centres. And it seems that Francis's trajectory has been continued by Pope Leo, who this year made a very public show of meeting Gareth Gore,
Starting point is 00:31:33 a journalist who wrote a highly critical book about Opus Day. The organisation is more political than it is religious. Opus Day diverges from certainly the current Pope on a number of issues. So it seems like the conflict between the Vatican and Opus Day might come down to something surprisingly simple, how it treats people. It's the cost of its expansion that might end up unraveling Opus Day. The cost to people like Sarah, the woman who started this story.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Two years after Sarah joined Opus Day as a new, memory assistant, the isolation and workload overwhelmed her. She actually reached out to the person who had brought her into the organization, her childhood mentor, several times. She rarely heard back. Sarah wasn't sure how much longer she could last, but she kept thinking about what she'd been taught. If you don't follow your vocation, you won't really be happy.
Starting point is 00:32:34 So that kind of freaked me out. Would I ever be happy? Would I end up living? a miserable life. Eventually, Sarah found the strength to speak to her director. I'm really unhappy, she told her. I'm not sure this is my vocation. I remember it was really, really hard for me to bring that up to her.
Starting point is 00:32:55 I was, like, physically shaking, and I started to cry, and she just encouraged me to keep praying about it and pushing through it. and this is an opportunity to become closer to God. And it was hard for me to come back and talk about it more because I felt very dismissed. A month later, Sarah tried again, this time in the confessional. He was our usual priest at the center he was higher up in the government of Opus Day, and I remember telling him that I was really unhappy,
Starting point is 00:33:37 and that I think this isn't for me. And as soon as I just said, I'm unhappy, he cut me off and just said, everyone has doubts. You just have to keep moving forward. You have to be cheerful. He just like abruptly cut me off and his tone of language changed.
Starting point is 00:33:58 When I had gone in, he was very bubbly and nice. And when I started talking about being unhappy, he became very firm. And that was the point where I think the suicidal thoughts really started to take full effect. In the end, it was Sarah's parents who intervened. She called her mum and told her she no longer wanted to be alive, that she felt like that was the only way out of Opus Day. Her dad came, packed up her bags, and took her home.
Starting point is 00:34:37 I think back to being, you know, a 19-year-old girl who's really struggling with her mental health, still trying to figure out how to advocate for herself. To me, I didn't feel like I had the freedom to just leave. You've been almost conditioned to have blind obedience and do what you're told and not question anything and just embrace suffering as a way of getting closer to God. Sarah's now 29. When we speak, I often forget how young she still is, because what she went through feels like a whole other life.
Starting point is 00:35:16 Since then, she's steadily built a new one. She's got a dog, a job that makes her happy, real friends. But she no longer has a relationship with God. More than anything else, that's why she finds it hard to forgive Opus Day. I feel like I lost my faith through that whole process of being in Opus Day and leaving. I feel like religion was weaponized against me and kind of used to keep me in an unhealthy situation for their own purposes. I would like to have a relationship with God again and pray and go to church, but being in church, it makes me cry.
Starting point is 00:36:00 And I think there's just a lot I still need to work on and work through for my time in Opus Day. And hopefully someday I can go back to church right now, just not there yet. This is the thing I find it hardest to get my head around about Opus Day. It says its goal is to bring people closer to God. And I've heard lots of stories of it doing just that. But for so many others, so many people like Sarah, Opus Day did the opposite. Because in pursuit of its expansion, in pursuit of spreading its message, I think Opus Day has developed a blind spot in relation to its own behaviour.
Starting point is 00:36:47 The way it abuses the spiritual power it has over its members, and its opaque efforts to influence society. And that's come at a cost to its' means. members, but also at a cost to the public, because we have a right to know who's trying to influence us, and Opus Day simply isn't transparent about its agenda. At best, Opus Day is looking for a path to fix the problems it sees in society, but I think it should reflect on its own problems first, because it seems to me that a lot has got lost along the way. You've been listening to Untold Opus Day.
Starting point is 00:37:35 If you want to share a tip in relation to this podcast, please get in touch at antonia.cundi at ft.com. The reporting for this series was by me, Antonio Cundi and Persis Love. Written by me, Josh Gabbott-Doyant and Persis Love. It was produced by Josh Gabbitt-Doyon
Starting point is 00:37:54 and Persis Love. Original music, sound design and mixing by Breen Turner. Script editing by Matt Vela. Fat-checking. was by Simon Greaves. Our executive producer is Tofa Foreheads, and the FT's head of audio is Cheryl Brumley.
Starting point is 00:38:10 Special thanks to Nigel Hansen, Madison Marriage, Kadam Shibber, Helen Worrell, Miles Johnson, Marine Saint, and Paul Murphy. Thank you to the many sources who shared their stories with us for this series. And thanks for listening.

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