We Might Be Drunk - Derek Trucks w/ Mark Normand & Sam Morril - We Might Be Drunk Podcast

Episode Date: April 6, 2026

Derek Trucks joins Mark and Sam for a killer episode packed with music stories, comedy shop talk, and road war tales. They get into Derek’s insane journey from child prodigy to selling out the Beaco...n, life on tour with a 12-piece band, and what it’s like playing a $12 million Jerry Garcia guitar. Plus, Willie Nelson stories, Bill Hicks chaos, tearjerker movie debates, and why great art takes years to master. They also hit recs, peeves, and bits, and close it out with a live guitar moment you don’t want to miss. Recs: The 400 Blows Cinema Paradiso Train Dreams War Horse Sponsored by: Boost energy, strength, and focus with Mars Men https://mengotomars.com Get 50% off for life + free shipping + 3 free gifts Get discreet, affordable treatment with Hims https://hims.com/drunk Start your free online visit today Level up your business communication with Quo https://quo.com/WMBD Get 20% off your first 6 months + free trial Start your online business with Shopify https://shopify.com/drunk Sign up for a $1/month trial Subscribe to We Might Be Drunk: https://bit.ly/SubscribeToWMBD Merch: https://wemightbedrunkpod.com/ Clips Channel: https://bit.ly/WMBDClips Sam Morril: https://punchup.live/sammorril/tickets Mark Normand: https://punchup.live/marknormand/tickets ⸻ Produced by Gotham Production Studios: https://www.gothamproductionstudios.com @GothamProductionStudios | Producer: https://www.instagram.com/mrmatthewpeters #WeMightBeDrunk #MarkNormand #SamMorril #DerekTrucks #ComedyPodcast #StandUpComedy #bodegacatwhiskey 00:00 Introduction, Trending & Swiftie Drama 02:00 Dealing with Hate & Netflix Special 03:40 Podcast Marathon in LA & Meeting Legends 06:10 Reflection on Comedy Specials & Joke Writing 09:30 Comedy Writing, Collaboration, and New Material 12:00 Building an Hour & The Pressure of Performing 14:30 Consuming Comedy & Classic Films Discussion 17:00 Movie Recommendations & Emotional Impact 20:30 Disney, Kids, and Emotional Storytelling 23:30 War Movies & Tearjerkers 27:00 Sponsorships & Podcast Ads Break 31:00 Special Guest Derek Trucks Joins 33:00 Life on the Road with a Big Band 36:30 Tour Stories, Crew, and Legendary Roadies 41:00 Upbringing, Music Prodigy, and Family Support 45:30 Paying Dues, Anonymity & The Creative Process 48:30 Learning From the Greats, Bill Hicks Stories 53:30 Gear, Iconic Guitars, and Memorabilia 58:30 Music Upbringing & Influences 01:03:00 Musical Scenes, Legends, and Oklahoma Connection 01:08:00 Musicianship, Technique, and Influence of The Band 01:13:00 Honing Craft, Practice, and Lifelong Growth 01:18:00 Great Live Shows & Musical Heroes 01:23:00 Wrapping Up with Live Guitar, Tour Dates & Thanks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:09 We're back, baby. Still trending. Still trending. Yes. We're number eight right now. Who knows when this comes up? And on TMZ. I mean,
Starting point is 00:00:15 holy shit. I know. The Swifties attacked me. I got some messages on your behalf. They're bots. They hate me. They went after my wife. They went after me for body shame and then they body shamed her.
Starting point is 00:00:26 Yeah. What is that? No, it makes no sense. Yeah. They're crazy. Yeah, you're like, I hope you fucking die. I'm going to slit your throat and I'm like, it's like a 12 year old girl who wrote this. I know.
Starting point is 00:00:35 I know. It's all bots or whatever the hell. So. If you get killed by a, if you get killed by a Swifty, I'm going to have to speak at your funeral. And it's going to be, I'm going to have to speak and, like, I'm going to be like, he couldn't shake it off. Yeah. What happened? They're worse than they, like, Hesbola.
Starting point is 00:00:52 I mean, they're like, it's crazy. Crazy. Yeah, it's like, it's a bit much. It's a little much. I'm sure she's like, could you dial it back a little? Yeah, yeah, I would imagine. Yeah. Yeah, Swift, tell your minions.
Starting point is 00:01:04 They're fucking scary. She's got to put out, like, one track where there's like a breakup song where she's, like, no, we're good now. Right. And then they're going to be like, oh, yeah, we should chill out a little, right? I don't know. That's a good idea. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:01:15 That's not women's specialty is toning it down. Let him go. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, crazy. I mean, it's all good for the special, you know? I guess so. I assume people are downvoting the shit out of it on Netflix or whatever, but.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Is that a thing still? Is that? I think they outlawed the download. Oh, great. I mean, maybe not. I don't know. He's on the down low. Either way.
Starting point is 00:01:36 They outlaw the stars. They used to have the stars. Oh, the stars were bad. What about you were in L.A.? Give me the pod rundown. Oh. Because you did like six in a day. I did five in a day.
Starting point is 00:01:46 Okay. I did Rich Eisen. Which traffic? That's insane. That was the hard part. And I Ubered the whole thing. Yeah. Rich Eisen.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Rich Eisen. Harlan, Bobby Lee, Santino, Glassman, Red Eye. Home. Oh, I thought you went on the Fox News show. Damn, dude. That's crazy. You know what's funny? You've done Rich Eisen.
Starting point is 00:02:07 He's the man. He's the man. He's like. He is, like, one of the coolest sports guys ever, like, back to SportsCenter. Yes. I grew up on him and Stu Scott. Like, oh, yeah. That was, like, I was emotional when Stu Scott died.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Yeah, yeah. He was all over the TV. Like, we grew up with the guy. He's so good at big moments. Like, he says the right thing in the right way every time I feel like. Like, he's, without being, like, annoyingly preachy, he's just, like, a, he's like a dignified manner. Yes, yes. He's very, but he's, all those sports guys, like, have a little bit of.
Starting point is 00:02:38 of like letterman influence of that era. Right, right. Totally. You know? Yeah, yeah. Cool dude. But Rich Eisen, you know, he swore. He's so warm.
Starting point is 00:02:49 He's such a cool guy. He gives you like a hug and everything. Sweet dude. Well, he did stand-up for a few years. Oh, really? A lot of those sports center guys like started a stand-up center like I'm a sports guy, but yeah, I had lunch with him once. We both did a cameo in billions.
Starting point is 00:03:02 And he was like, let's get lunch. And went to a Chinese restaurant. And he told me the story about how he got sports center. It was crazy. Really? Like he just, well, they just, he was just, he would watch it religiously and be like, oh, this is what I would have said. Because you know, they would make jokes back in the day.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Be like, it must be a homer because the pitcher just said, oh, like, shit like that. So they would, they would have lines for that and he was like, I'm going to come up with lines for this episode. And you do it every night. And then the night he did it, he did the night before. And that was the test. That was like, let's see what you can do for this. And he just had him locked and loaded.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Wow. So he looked awesome. It was like, what? Show is hard work, man. You put in the work. There you go. Wow, good for him. But yeah, he's quick. He had a couple of moments with me. I was like, damn, that was fast. He's good interviews online. Like the Larry David interview is great. Seinfeld stuff, all that. He has a great one, Jeff Daniels. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:03:51 But. Oh, yeah, I've seen that with the clip with Nicholson, the story. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I go in there. It's at 11 a.m. I go in there. It's all the way by the airport. It's a whole thing. I get in there. There's hair, makeup. And I was like, so how long do I do? Like an hour, hour and a half? They're like six minutes. I'm like six minutes. Really? It's like morning radio. We ended up doing about 15 because it was cooking. Yeah. Six is crazy.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Six is crazy. I'm like, what is this? Good morning America? Give me a second. Also, he's good. It's always the ones you want to talk to. Yes. Cut down.
Starting point is 00:04:21 So true. Yeah. Yeah. I did a Fox 5 with whatever her name is and I was like, geez, are we done yet? Yeah. But yeah, Eisen was, we went about 15 or 12, but that was crazy. I was like six minutes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:33 We're doing all this for six minutes, like haircut. You give me a haircut and touch. me up. It's old school. It is, yeah. And the photos on the wall. It's like him with Obama, him with Bruce Springsteen, him with Jack Nibaldon. How did he, when did he do this show? Yeah, they were in a cave. I don't know how they got in service.
Starting point is 00:04:50 But yeah. Bin Laden only got eight minutes, I heard. Crazy. I already got 9 to 11. All right. But yeah, so then I ran out of there. Then Harlow Williams is how, I walk into Harley Williams. He's like, oh, you just miss Will Ferrell. I'm like, oh, L.A! L.A.
Starting point is 00:05:04 He did the pod or they were just hanging? He did the pod? Wow, that's a big one. Yeah, so, like, L.A. is such a magical play. I'm looking at the Hollywood Hills. I just missed Will Ferrell. I was in a hotel once, and they gave you, like, they didn't have a gym, but they gave you access to the equinox across the street. And I saw Will Farrell in there.
Starting point is 00:05:21 I was like, that's fucking wild. Just working out with, like, literally hundreds of people around him. That's crazy. No one bothered him. It's L.A. Yeah, I guess so. Does he work out funny? Is he like, ah!
Starting point is 00:05:32 In Toledo, Idaho, you can't do that shit. No, God, no. You get swarmed. But they're just like, they're like, I'm over it. Right, right. Although you know a couple people are like, dude, I did a self-tape of this movie. That's true. That's a good point.
Starting point is 00:05:44 But, yeah, that's good. And then what else? Bobby, Santino. Yeah, Bobby's such a pro. Did Bobby. It was so fun. Yeah, it's easy lifting. Yeah, Santino's the man.
Starting point is 00:05:52 And then I, by the time I got to Glassman, it was like 7 p.m. And you're like loopy and delirious and like uninhibited. So that one got really weird. So look out for that. Said the N-word. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we got into it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:06 It was fun. Damn. And then I flew home on a red eye, took a Xanax, and slept the whole way. I pulled a Salacus. The sleep back is tough because it's really like five hours. I know, exactly. There you get six. Six, I can do six.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Five is where you get in a dangerous territory. Yeah, I landed, got home on like with one eye open and then just went into bed and slept for like four more hours. But you got a baby, so I guess it's like it's always. You're on. It's never good sleep. No, never, never. So, but I'm back.
Starting point is 00:06:33 That was yesterday I was a little wonky, but I'm back, baby. and I got it all in one weekend, Rogan, all that shit, and I'm done, and I'm home. Damn, that is the way to do it. Just fucking suffer for a week. Yes. Like flight, not suffer, but it's a lot of flights, a lot of being on. Look at that, dude. We kept it at eight.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Suck on that, Bridgerton. Yeah, you too, Mark Robers, whoever that is. Crunchibles. Yeah, we're coming for you, dinosaurs. Yeah, you're extinct. All right. How about that, so? I love it, man.
Starting point is 00:07:02 That's amazing. Nice to be in the 10 for a while, but you get, you get some. some hate too. To get a lot of hate. People are making think pieces. That Twin Towers jokes are fucking goddamn. Oh, thanks. I heard a lot of them because I see, I'll still see you on shows and I'll peek in,
Starting point is 00:07:15 I'll watch. But like, it's fun to see the finished product and you're just like, fuck the, the, the, uh, God, I wrote down a few. Oh, the three-some 9-11? Is that the one you're talking about? Yeah, that was fun. We crumbled under pressure. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Fuck. There was a Bush and it was an inside job. Oh, yeah. WMBA joke, you told me before, but I love, fucking, you've told me a bunch of these. So I know you ran the Delta Gimp one by me, I think, in a text. Yes. And I was like, fuck. That was your line, Delta Gimp.
Starting point is 00:07:40 I said Delta Gimp? Yeah. God damn. No wonder. I love that I'm compliment. I'm a special. I'm like, that was a great line. That's a good writer.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Here's my favorite part. When I went and saw you. I love the, but it's your thing. I mean, it's your premise and there's like the idea is so fucking funny. Yeah, but no one's put those two words together, Delta and Gimp. So that's, that's gold. It's so, it's a funny visual. It's hard to do a funny visual.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Yeah. Like, you know, it's like that's that funny. Because you picture it. You see a guy. And everyone fucking has been there. Guy, I wrote down a bunch. Well, we used to write so often together that when you did your Comedy Central Hour, I went with, I brought May. That's all. What? It was a brand new. It was like a hot date. You brought May to my Comedy Central Hour? Yeah, because I wanted to be like, hey, I know this guy. It was TV. I was trying to get late. I remember you're, I remember being at your Comedy Central Hour is probably like a few months before mine or something. I think he brought Leonard Oots. Did I really? Wow, he was your date. We were dating.
Starting point is 00:08:37 I titty fucked him. That's a lot of tit. I remember yours doing that church in the Lower East Side. Oh, yeah, yeah, the synagogue. It was a synagogue, rather. Yeah, it was amazing, dude. It was beautiful. But yeah, I brought her.
Starting point is 00:08:52 We used to write so much. I was like, that was my tag. Yeah, dude. And she was like, shut up. Try to watch. I was like, oh, sorry, sorry. I don't remember. Because I'm at the point now, I don't even remember what I do,
Starting point is 00:09:02 but love Leonard. I love that guy. But, dude, yeah, so many jokes. I mean, fuck. There's another one. A QR code on the clam. Oh, thanks. Because I was like, you're like, you know, I'm so, I'm so desensitized to comedy that I'm like, I'm like, you're like trying to figure out where's it going.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Right. It's hard for me to just watch it enjoy comedy. Of course, of course. But unless it's like something so different. Yeah. You know, but I'm like, oh, fuck. I was like, where's it going? All the groups that hate each other look the same.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Oh, thanks. Thank A lot of those bombed in New York But that's also one Where are you like That's a great observation Now where are you gonna take it
Starting point is 00:09:40 And the turn The turn the last line Women Yeah You make everything's a two Two two two And then a one Yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:09:45 So I was like In the pause Women So it's like Oh fuck I was like Oh that one I was like walking
Starting point is 00:09:52 On the street watching that I was like Oh on the street Wow Well because Sometimes I like to like I like I was like comedy better
Starting point is 00:09:59 than watching But I was I'll take down look too But yeah Comic like Mark or like I mean The set's beautiful, so it's wasted on me.
Starting point is 00:10:05 They killed it, yeah. It's beautiful. They nailed with the colors. God, the colors were fucking nice. That's New Orleans. That's your nicest looking special by Florida. I took your advice. You're like, spend some fucking money.
Starting point is 00:10:15 The last one I skipped. They're forever. Yeah, we shot that thing. I've skimmed on some, too. Although, we were talking the other day, we're like, are we ever going to top our YouTube specials? Right, right. Like, out to lunch and I got this.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Or like, I think there are tops. Probably. Because we were so hungry and so. fucking annoyed and we're like no one will give us shit. Yeah. Like I remember like, I remember everyone passing on us and I should be like, what else? We're killing. Who was that Bill Burr quote?
Starting point is 00:10:43 We're like, we're killing an obscurity. Yes. We're killing obscurity. What's happening? Yeah. I would go to clubs and they'd be like, same hour, huh? I'm like, ah, this is all I got. Like, no one's going to buy it.
Starting point is 00:10:54 So I'm not going to really work on a new hour. Yeah, because that's why mine was so good for me because I was running it for years. Because you had nothing else. I was like, why not just do it again? No one's filming it. It's also tough because we were in a lot of papered rooms, which basically just for those you don't know the term, it just means a lot of free tickets. Which people, if you don't pay for something, you don't respect it. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:11:16 I mean, if you give money to it, it's more of an, like going to the theater to see a movie. Yeah. It's way better than if you just throw something on Netflix. Now you're scrolling. Yeah. Well, that doesn't bode well for hookers versus minds. No, we don't respect the hooker. But you pay.
Starting point is 00:11:29 You pay. So you, but that your life's like. Sex doesn't count. All right. You can't count sex. All right, fine. So I'm wrong about that one. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:11:38 You found one hole in this. All right. And I use that term loosely. So you both express some interest separately about wanting to take more time until your next special. Yes. Yeah. How did that come about at the same exact time in your career at the same moment? Because we're both burnt out.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Yeah. And like I just tape one too and I'm in the motor. I took a couple weeks off and now I'm like, I'm throwing shit the wall. And it's kind of fun. It's funny. Someone was watching me bomb. And they were like, you don't really seem like it bothers you. I'm like, it's fun.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Yeah. It's fun after you've been doing well for a while. Like you're running an hour. It's tight. It's good. And it's for your people on the road. You're spoiled. So you're just like, you get offstage killing.
Starting point is 00:12:17 You're like, I'm a fucking hack. Who gives this shit? Yeah, I know this works. I'm just cutting fat. But then you go up with new shit, you're like, if I get one line, I'm like, oh, all right, cool. Yes. One line is worth the whole night. You slave over all these jokes.
Starting point is 00:12:29 And then you're like, oh, man, what do I have? And you look at your like, that was 20 seconds, I guess. 20 seconds. I know. It's like, you know, you just... What do they say? Building an hour is like trying to make a mountain out of paint. It's like when you put spinach in a pan and you're like, that's all I got?
Starting point is 00:12:43 Hey, that's good. It's like fucking... That's it? Yeah. But, uh, no, it's fun, man. Spinning in a pan. It's fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:51 But damn, yeah, I wrote a few more down. Oh, that's fine. You hate this. This is hell for Mark right now. All right, fine. One more, though. I've heard this too, but I love from you because I loved it, but the RFK feels like family. Oh, thanks.
Starting point is 00:13:03 I was proud of that one I'm not gonna lie I just enjoy there aren't a lot of comics I'm like where's this going and I don't watch that many comedy specials because I don't want to bite on people shit but like you gotta watch your friends
Starting point is 00:13:17 yes you got to watch you list there's like a few people I'll watch but it's hard it's hard for me to I should watch more well like summer like I watched Chris Fleming because he's so different I started it and I was into it and I got to go back yeah so he's funny
Starting point is 00:13:33 with a girl who wasn't as into it. And I think she might have been if we gave it more. It takes time. Yeah, yeah. It's also like an hour of 15. Sure. Which I'm like, that's a fucking bold move. I know for your opening special.
Starting point is 00:13:45 It's his first special? He might have done a YouTube. No, I think he's done stuff. Okay, maybe you're right. But I was like, I got it. I could tell it's good, so I want to go back to it. I will. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:52 I will. But yeah, so I try to watch a little and I listen to a lot and I do the serious comedy in the car. I love listening. I, for something, because I, yeah, I don't know. It feels almost like. It's better. We're old school.
Starting point is 00:14:04 It's like, it's like when you meet a guy who's like, I only listen to baseball games. You're like, what are you fucking crazy? Oh, that's wild. But I've met people like that with like, you've got to listen to a game. I only listen to porn. I don't watch it. I like the conversation. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:16 It's really interesting. Some people are into that ASMR shit. That gets them off. Yeah, yeah. It's probably people that listen to this to fall asleep. Yeah, yeah. But you know, it's weird. This is most consumed by YouTube podcast.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Is it? Yeah. Really? Do we do way better on YouTube than audio? Oh shit. You just made that up. I thought I heard that. Podcasts were mostly YouTube.
Starting point is 00:14:39 I thought I heard that. Really? Yeah, just because people put it on, they eat dinner. It's just in the backer. Like, I listen to music off YouTube. Really? Yeah, because it's right there. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Dude, I got to, can I give a movie wreck? Yeah. Because I watch, like, I still buy DVDs. Like, I'll still buy them. It is what I was saying earlier. It's like kind of feels more like an event to put a disc in. The quality is better. And I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:02 There's something about it that you're like, all right, I got to pay attention. I like it. I like it. So, uh, 400 blows by true friend. Oh, classic. I'd never seen it. I love that you've seen everything. It's fucking great.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Oh, yeah. I didn't realize it was about his childhood until I started reading about it afterwards. Oh. This kid is, uh, this kid in France who's kind of deeply, street tough. Street tough, but deeply misunderstood. Yeah. It's his mom is raised him and she just like hates him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:28 And then the dad, it's a stepdad. It's not a dad who really, uh, he's like, fine he's not like an awful guy but he's like doesn't seem to love him right and uh he's just like there and it's just like what can happen on and on you end up in a bad place when you don't have a good but it's just fucking beautiful it's like oh my god it's great yeah it's it's great yeah and it's such a big influence on so many movies totally yeah have you seen the bicycle thief oh don't do it to me don't do that one to me because it's fucking like there's like certain movies that will make you tear up.
Starting point is 00:16:03 That fucking kid in that movie. I know. He's so cute. He's great. He's so... He wouldn't last a second around, Spacey. That's true. And I grew up in a black neighborhood, so this movie hit home for me.
Starting point is 00:16:15 This was my whole childhood. Except your movie, you're just like, you guys can have it. Yeah, that's true. You guys take it. There's a lot of that. I've heard that story about your... Yeah, true story. About your nanny.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Yeah, that's amazing. And one more Cinema Paradiso. That is like, if you don't cry during Cinema Paradiso, I don't. So I don't know if you're like, you must be like made a stone. Exactly. I think that's like the ultimate you cry movie. Yeah, yeah, I think you're right. I avoid a lot of those movies because I don't want to just let.
Starting point is 00:16:41 But like Cinema Paradiso just fucking. It's brutal. It's so good. It's beautiful. Incredible. Can we play this one scene? Sure. We don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:50 We don't know shit about copyright law. Okay. You want to read what he's saying, Mark? Don't look back. Don't give him nostalgia. Forget about us. This is the old, pause for a sec. So you're playing, I love this instinct.
Starting point is 00:17:05 No context. No context. It's foreign. And we just found out a bunch of our listeners are mostly audio. Yeah, they'll figure out Italian. It's a kid who grows up in a, playing films in a projector, and he falls in love with cinema. And this old man is like his mentor, and he's a really sweet guy. And there's a fire in the cinema, and the old man saves the kid, but he becomes blind from the injuries.
Starting point is 00:17:29 and the kid ends up becoming this big director. Yep. And he comes back for the old man's funeral. It's a beautiful story. And it's brutal and heartbreaking. Yeah. But also just like, so this is the old man saying, don't give him an nostalgia, don't forget about us.
Starting point is 00:17:44 No, he's saying forget about us. Oh, forget about us. I'm just the point of the movie, guys. No, he said, don't give an nostalgia. Forget about us. Yeah, like go on with your life. Oh, chills. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Yeah. Wow. You can't forget your child. Like those formative movies, are the ones that fuck you up. Like that last line of stand by me, like, the thing about I never had friends like that. Yeah. Again, I'm butchering it, but who does?
Starting point is 00:18:09 And you're like, oh, geez. I know. He just, like, casually says that River Phoenix got his throat slit. Yeah. He just kind of like, oh, yeah, he got his throat slit later in a... In like a bar fight or something. Yeah, and, yeah, I don't know. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Yeah, that's heavy stuff. It's also crazy that movie. They're all kids. They're best friends, whatever. And then they all go different ways and never talk to each other again. which is such a true thing in life. Yeah. Oh, you want to cry.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Watch train dreams. Really? Oh, this is the best movie of 2026. I'm calling it right now. I got to watch it, man. I'm going to watch it this week. Deep, heavy, introspective. I watch it with May.
Starting point is 00:18:46 She's on the couch weeping. She's like, what is this movie? I've never even heard of this. And it's beautiful looking I heard. It's beautiful. It's pretty. He's great. He carries the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:18:54 There's like 10 seconds of dialogue. You don't even need it. What's like an ultimate tier jerker movie? if you're like, what gets you every time? All you guys. That's what I call a bad hand job. I got one during Schindler's list. It broke me.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Ultimate tearjerker. Well, like, let's see. Oh, oh, I got it. What's that? You want to talk? Schindler's list. Life is beautiful. Life is beautiful.
Starting point is 00:19:19 I was going to say that too. Every time. Benini, God damn. Staying funny in the fucking tragedy. Unbelievable. The walk. Yeah, yeah, heavy. What do you got?
Starting point is 00:19:31 All five of the movies you've spoken about so far, kids are in it. That's the through line for you guys. Interesting. You know what I was going to say another with kids? Epstein's Island. Always gets me. No, Kramer versus Kramer. Oh, that's good.
Starting point is 00:19:48 When they're making the French toast in the end every time. Because it's like not trying to get you. It's just subtle, we have this routine now. And they have the fight earlier. I fucking love. God. God, it's funny how they just were like, we'll make the mom awful. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:04 That's totally a movie for men. We're like, the mom's a piece of shit. We're like, Dustin Hoffman's doing his best. But Meryl Streep, I think she's still won the Oscar for it. Oh, there you go. That's a great fucking movie. They should remake it with Michael Richards versus Kramer. It's like Fight Club.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Yeah. Buildings are exploding. He's like, it was you. It was you. Who's you who said the end word at the club? Terrats. Who? Oh, wait. What's another way?
Starting point is 00:20:35 I had one. Shit, tearjerker. War movies will get me, too. Oh, war movie, yeah. All on quiet on the Western Front. I just try on that. That's another one I got to fucking wash. I've been on a war kick, too, because I just like.
Starting point is 00:20:46 Well, we're in a war. So it's timely. Yeah, Deer Hunter will, that'll get you. Heavy. It's just brutal. Yeah, I had it again, and I lost it again. I'll get it back. Whatever I'll do.
Starting point is 00:20:58 I've never seen terms of endearment. I've never seen either. I'm intimidated because everyone's like, you're going to cry. When someone opens with that, I'm like, but I feel like I got to see it. Yeah. Yeah, that's how I felt with a bridge over wall. What is that? What is that? With Redford. Bridges over Madison County?
Starting point is 00:21:15 Yes. Yeah. When that came out, everybody's like, it's so sad, you're going to cry. I never watched it. If that's the pitch. Yeah. You got to start with it so great. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:21:24 You say you're going to cry. No dude is like, oh, sweet. Let me clear my Saturday. No, you're like, you know, but I hear it's some, it's James L. Brooks, too. We should see it. Oh, that's true. He's great. And fucking Nicholson. I know.
Starting point is 00:21:37 And Shirley Maclean. Yeah, she's good. Yeah, I'm thinking, are there any other, like, that always get you? I mean, I cry at the end of BT. Yeah. What is it? Yeah. Oh, I thought of what I was going to say.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Up. The beginning of all. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Unreal. That opening. I'm like, this is you're opening it? I know.
Starting point is 00:21:57 And it's a kid's thing. Pixar. I got it. Disney, I learned this the other day because I follow a bunch of movie accounts. Same. That's like my whole for you thing. If I get in the Dume Scroll thing, it's like movie shit. Or like NBA war stories. Yeah. You said me on. I said one. It's either like Kevin Garnett or Scorsese. So Disney said if you watch every big movie on Disney, it's all a parent dies and the kid has to grow up and become an adult. And grow up quickly. And grow up quickly. Lion King, Bambi.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Shit, there's another one. There's a couple of them. But first of all, Walt Disney's parents died young when he was young. And that fucked him up. But he also realized if the parent dies in a kid movie, the kid is immediately gripped. Then the kid has to grow up. Simba grows up. It's bold.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Because that doesn't work. The kid's like, I can do that. And so it's emotionally gripping. You'll love it. You'll love every movie. It's kind of brilliant. His mom is killed in the first scene. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:22:59 So now you're invested. You're like, oh, how's he going to get out of this one? I'm a kid. It's crazy to show a kid that stuff. I mean, it's like, you're probably working stuff out. You're like, all right, let me start with the parents getting raped. And they're like, too far. Let me reel it back in.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Yeah. They didn't respond to that. Right. The gimstein. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, the kid's biggest fear is abandon. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:23 So there you go. That's how you start it. No, I mean, it's, it's, yeah. I'm trying to think if there's any others that fucking kill me. War movies do always get you. Forrest Gump got me. I saw it in the theater with the Bubba. When Bubba died, I wept like a bitch.
Starting point is 00:23:38 He was so nice. I know. Fuck. And Senise loses the legs. Oh, yeah. That was brutal. With those cunt strippers, you fucking loser, you freak. When he's crawling.
Starting point is 00:23:49 And I'm like, God, you bitches are cruel. He's handicapped. Love Sinise. He's so good. Well, apparently this makes people cry. I've never seen it. War Horse? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:00 It looks like an AI movie. It does. Designed to make people cry. Yeah. Wow. But a man in his horse. Oh, geez. Who is it?
Starting point is 00:24:06 Who is it? I think it's Spielberg movie. Is it Spielberg? Yeah. Who is the star of it? I don't know. Let's look it up. They had a C-Biscuit, War Horse.
Starting point is 00:24:13 They had a couple of horses. Too many horses in a row. Yeah. I think I missed the whole horse epidemic there. Jeremy. Oh, here. Sorry. A young farm boy.
Starting point is 00:24:25 It's this Spielberg film and 7.2. Jeremy Irvin. Irvine. Irvine. Irvine, excuse me. Damn, all right. Is this Spielberg? Yeah. Damn. This is our wreck. We should watch. We should all watch this and get a good cry. He'd give me two others. Train Dreams is great. You haven't seen Train Dreams? We should watch. Let's watch it.
Starting point is 00:24:45 It's heavy. This will be our book club. Oh, geez. We got a guest coming in. I'm excited about this one. Pull up the name because I don't want to get it wrong. Derek Trucks. Thank you. Oh, that's the easiest name on the planet. I don't want to mispronounce it. John Smith, got it.
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Starting point is 00:32:05 Oh, this is like a fun little bottle. Are they different? Are they different? Yeah, there's, uh, we've done five releases. Give me one of those. This is a 20 year. 20 year. It's a tasty sucker.
Starting point is 00:32:16 It's almost illegal. This is 10. This is 10 years? These are 210? Yeah. I want to try the 20 first. Ah. Is that crazy?
Starting point is 00:32:24 That's good. That's good. It's hot one, too. 117, I think. Yeah. We're like hot ones for booze. Oh, my God. That's unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Yeah. That tastes great. It's kind of creamy almost. It goes down easy. We did a release of a 15 and a 9 in a box together. Those were pretty great, too. Give me another hit of that. Maybe my favorite of the bunch.
Starting point is 00:32:46 That is crazy. Are those bottles shaped like that? Because it could fit in your boot. Is that real? Yeah. Or your back pocket. Your ass pocket. Your ass pocket.
Starting point is 00:32:54 But if you wear boots, it definitely fits. Damn. Yeah, this is amazing. Good youth as a for anal. The doctor was literally like, no, he's like brown liquor and coffee are the worst things for you right now. Oh, wow. And I was like my two favorite fucking things. I'm not throwing like pussy film noir and the Knicks. I just ruin my life.
Starting point is 00:33:14 They always take the good stuff from you first. My doctor's a brown people. So, you know, you got a better doctor. Dude, I mean, 10 nights of the beacon is insane. Yeah, it's been a trip. That's like the, that's, we say that's like the coolest theater in America. We're on, what is tonight, eight? Wow.
Starting point is 00:33:32 What a run. Yeah. So eight, a bunch of press. It's been good, though. It's been a good run. Yeah, I mean, it's, it's so cool, man. I get so many friends message me when we said you're coming on. Like, oh, my God, like, my friend Brian Copperman was like, you got to ask him, like, what it's like working with his wife, like, creatively.
Starting point is 00:33:49 How do you work with your wife? That's wild to us. Because we're comics. We're on our own up there. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, I met Susan on the road. She was opening for the almond brothers in 1999.
Starting point is 00:34:00 We bought a house, had kids, got married. It's one of those orders. And then 10 years in, we're like, I think we could probably maybe play music together. Yeah, yeah. We didn't jump in right away. But it's been an amazing run. We're 15, 16 years in. Wow.
Starting point is 00:34:16 And it's, but yeah, I mean, you got to, it's got to be the right person. I'm having a big band. You've got to make sure that everybody's, role is pretty defined. But it's been amazing. I mean, we've been really lucky. I mean, we're better now than we were when we started the band. Nice.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Like in terms of collaborating you think? That's rare. Usually goes the other way. Yeah. And if it does, I could see it going that way quick. Right, right. So it's kind of like all or nothing, but it's been an amazing run. And the band's in a healthy spot.
Starting point is 00:34:46 I mean, it's, I never would have thought we'd be able to make it this long with a 12-piece band. It's a heavy lift. With band and crew, we're 25, 30-piece. people on the roads. Wow. Days all for expensive. Are you on buses? How do you do it?
Starting point is 00:35:00 Twelve piece, man. I mean, you know, the resonancies are nice because you stay put for a minute. Yeah. But we don't, in the summer, we're hitting the road hard. And it's, you're on the bus, three or four buses, depending on the tour, how much production we're, whoa. So it's, I mean, eight or ten people on a bus. You're on each other.
Starting point is 00:35:17 You better like each other. I mean, that's so much harder than the way we literally show up with a mic. Exactly. In an opener, maybe. You know, I've had a few friends along the way that are comics, and then every once while one of them hits, and all of a sudden you see them playing these arenas and things, and they show up and they have a road manager, two of their friends. It's like, four people traveling. Yeah, that's exactly how we do it. It's like, holy cow, that's incredible.
Starting point is 00:35:42 It's crazy. Yeah, it's an amazing thing to see. Well, that's more than ISIS. I mean, that's crazy. I mean, you know, we roll into a town you feel pretty safe. Like, it's a small army rolling. Hell yeah. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:35:54 If you're in a bar fight, you're good. Yeah, there's a few guys in the band that, you want to have them with you. Oh, yeah. A few foxhole guys. I mean, we have a few on our crew, especially. He was a guy that drives a truck for us. He was driving with the almond brothers years ago, and he was an Army Ranger. He was, I mean, he was a prisoner of war for a while.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Wow. And when you show up at a festival, he's the first one on site, you roll in. He's got it all recon. He's like, buses are here. Right. Exit point, we're like, yes, sir. I'm following you, Rick, when it hits the fan. You want to play Russian roulette after the show?
Starting point is 00:36:32 You're like, dude, please, don't. It's battle all the time with that dude. Yeah, but you need one or two of those guys. I had one of those guys in high school. He just went down. Yeah, he was ready. I'm glad that guy's on our side. Yes.
Starting point is 00:36:44 I mean, the Ahmed brothers have this famous roadie named Red Dog. I think almost famous. It was a character based on him. But he was in Vietnam, came back. re-enlisted because of the adrenaline rush. He's one of those guys. But when I joined the almond brother's band, he had been there 30 something
Starting point is 00:37:02 years, and he's one of those guys that would take a bullet for anyone in the band. He was hardcore. The guy who wants to too badly. No one's got a gun. You don't have to instigate this. But he was a legend, man. They don't make him like that anymore.
Starting point is 00:37:15 I'm gluten-free. He's got an ulcer. Yeah, it's different now. Wow. Is that him? Playing with the almond brothers. Yeah, there he is. That's him? That's Red Dog. On the right.
Starting point is 00:37:26 Holy. He's already yelling. He's already yelling. Oh, yeah. No, that's what he looked like when I joined the band, too. He was quite something. He's actually funny the other night. Susan has become friends with Cindy Lopper, which is awesome.
Starting point is 00:37:38 She is hilarious and incredible human. We went by her place for dinner the other night, and she said, you know, actually, I was in the Phil Morris the first time when I was 17, and the Ammon brothers were playing, and Elvin Bishop. and I was there because I was into the fashion. The groupies had the best fashion. I didn't care about the other groupies shit, but I wanted to see what they were wearing. And so I was talking to them, and they were like,
Starting point is 00:38:01 yeah, we can just between bands, you just head backstage. And so I snuck backstage, and I ran into Red Dog. He was this guy that was working with the album brother, so I was like, you met Red Dog? And she thought she was a background singer and, like, put her on stage, like, get out there. You're supposed to be on. I was like, never imagined Cindy Lopper and Reddard.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Dog having a connection. I just saw her on TikTok. Like she had a resurgence. She's doing great now. Chris DeStefano's our buddy Chris is a comic. She played his mom in his new show. Oh, is that right? That would be awesome.
Starting point is 00:38:34 She came out to the beacon the other night and set in. It was pretty incredible. Wow. Yeah, pretty fun. Damn, she is. She's pretty damn cool. That's got to be the best. It's hearing those old stories.
Starting point is 00:38:43 I mean, I can't even imagine. Well, Red Dog wrote a self-published book called The Book of Tales and it's about what you think it is. It's just. Red dog chasing the ladies It is high comedy Highly recommended if you can find it Damn
Starting point is 00:38:58 We gotta get that book Yeah What's the routine on the road Like what's a night like usually Poked show How do you You know if we're staying in a town Our band likes to hang afterwards
Starting point is 00:39:09 So a lot of times you find Half the band will end up at some Jazz Club where everyone's sitting in Horn section will roll in We'll often end up there too or you just find a dive bar. Everybody enjoys hanging band and crew. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:23 So it's a good group that way where we, I mean, we know that we have to be up the next day and working. So we, you know, there's a, there's a line. Sure, sure. There's a day off. It's a little different. But we. The day's off. There's a lot of lines.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Yeah. Yeah. And it depends on how far you're traveling, you know. But we're adults. It's an adult traveling band. Right. It's definitely not a, it's not a choir rolling down the road. But it's a fun.
Starting point is 00:39:49 group. I mean, I've been in bands where you get off stage and everyone just heads their separate ways. Right. You only see each other on the bus or on stage. And luckily, this is not that group. So I think that stuff really matters, actually. Yeah, I agree. Bonding and it's a middle ground. You don't want to go do heroin all night, but you don't also go sit at a... It's a different band. Yeah. But there's a great dive bar up by the beacon with the harp on it. The Dublin. The Dublin. Hey! That's a great dive.
Starting point is 00:40:16 We were all there about three nights ago. Oh, nice. Hell yeah, I love that bar. It's iconic, man. Yeah. Oh, man, I love that place. The elevator and everything, all those iconic. It's the best.
Starting point is 00:40:25 There it is. Look at that big neon harp. You can't beat it. There's a Banksy out front. That's right. That's right. Yeah. We saw the video of you playing at 13, obviously, which is, I'm sure everyone brings that up to you.
Starting point is 00:40:36 Is that just like, how did that start circulating? Is that you posted that or someone else? No, I didn't post that. Wait, what is this, sir? It looks like I had an ass pocket on stage. This is crazy. Wow So wild
Starting point is 00:40:50 Is it just weird Until to see that now? There's a lot of blackmail material I was on the road at nine years old Oh my God Nine years old You're like Drew Barrymore What the hell
Starting point is 00:40:59 There was like this couple This guy and his girl That would follow us to shows And film almost everything So every once while Something pops up The guitar player up front Danny Roberts
Starting point is 00:41:09 He was in mud crutch This is petty Original band Anyone else hard Look how cute See if I was a woman I would just see the fingering abilities here. This is so hot.
Starting point is 00:41:21 Then you'd go to jail. He's 13. That's good point. And that guy, Rick Stott, he was driving tour buses a few years later. So he rented to him. My uncle's timpennies in the back. Damn. What shirt is a feet?
Starting point is 00:41:32 That's a Dwayne Amin shirt. That's killer. This is so cool. Being that good at something at that age, does it kind of kill your social life? So yeah, nobody in my school cared about that. That was not cool when I was in middle school or whatever that was. And when they're going to party and stuff, you're like, I got to practice. I'm so good at this.
Starting point is 00:41:50 I was on the road, man. That's at 13. You're just on the road. Yeah. You really were at 9 to 13. Yeah. What do your parents say about this? I mean, they were out with me.
Starting point is 00:41:59 It was mainly weekends. Yeah. Miss a little bit of school. Teachers were good about giving you work in advance. They could tell that you're legit at this. Yeah, I mean, they knew something was up. So until high school, they kind of stopped caring in high school. They're like, you have to be there this many days or you're not going to pass.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Sure. We've got to finish your math homework. Did you just see that solo? Yeah. It's going to be big. Even though I would notice a few of my high school teachers out front at shows while they were failing me. That is hilarious. So I ended up homeschool in the last few years of high school, took my SATs and all that stuff on the road after shows.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Oh, my God. Just to let my mom know I wasn't a total degenerate. Yeah, yeah. But it was an amazing run. I mean, those were fun years. This is a silly question. Do you worry that the youngsters now, with the AI and all the shit, they're not going to take the time to string away and fail and learn?
Starting point is 00:42:56 I mean, you do, I think in the arts in general, you kind of worry about that. Yeah. But I think there's always pockets of people that just enjoy doing things because you enjoy doing it. Sure. And so I think that's probably safe, like those knees. It's incredible. But the thing that I feel lucky, I'm glad I was ahead of the. technological curve was I could pretty much cut my teeth in bars every night without it being posted
Starting point is 00:43:23 the next day. Here, here. So true. And I know, I'm sure in your world it's even more so when you're working out material. Yes. You don't want people. But since phones, I remember Louie got in trouble for that. Like years ago, he had a sandy hook.
Starting point is 00:43:36 It was like when people really had turned on Louis and he had working out a sandy hook bit. Yeah. Not the bit you want to be captured. Especially when it's not landing correct. Yeah. Exactly. I know. But he was like, oh.
Starting point is 00:43:47 I was like, dude, let it, let it, give him a minute. Yeah, it's not a special. He's going to figure it out. Yeah. You know. So I had many years of we play every night. You're on to the next city. And even if people were recording it, it wasn't, it wasn't, like, the next city didn't know how bad you were.
Starting point is 00:44:03 Right, right. That you were working it out. So, yeah, I kind of worry about that for up-and-coming artists. It's like, as soon as you learn something, you want to share it with people and you can. And maybe you shouldn't. I agree. Completely agree. There's something about paying your dues and actually putting the work in that, I don't know, I feel lucky that I was able to.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Yeah, anonymity is a gift. It is, man, it is. I remember listening to some early Richard Pryor, like some bootlegs, and going, wow, he wasn't that funny yet. Right. It kind of, like, it kind of gave me a lot of hope because you're like he was. He also might have been on a lot of drugs. Yeah. I think it was even before.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Oh, yeah. It's like he was such a master and you're like, even he had to cut his teeth. Exactly. Where you hear like early Charlie Parker or Coltrane, you're like, wow, he wasn't that guy yet. That's crazy. Well, it's that famous Miles Davis quote, right? It takes you a long time to sound like yourself. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:57 For comedy, you're like, you're a prodigy at 13. There's no great comic at 13. No. Yeah, you're right. That's a different thing. Yeah. The other great Miles Davis quote, John Coltrane was going through this period where it was just sheets of sound. And he's like, man, I just, when I start playing a solo, I just, I don't know how to stop.
Starting point is 00:45:14 I can't stop. and Miles goes, just take the fucking horn out of your mouth. That's actually good advice for a lot of things. He's a scary guy. You ever watch some of his interviews on YouTube? He was a wild man. There's one floating around now. There was like some morning TV show that thought it'd be a good idea
Starting point is 00:45:33 to have these up-and-coming trumpet players play and Miles judge them. It's like 12-year-old kid gets done playing. It's like Miles. So what do you think of his sound? And he goes, he knows what he's. sounds like. It's just ice cold, man. If you can see this kid, it's bad. Wow. Yeah, Norm Norm MacDonald was the judge on Last Comic. You know, it's NBC. It's all nice and family and all
Starting point is 00:46:00 this. And Norm be like, yeah, it's really bad. You know, some pork and flew there from Cleveland. You were on that season? I wasn't on that season. I was on that season. Oh, really? And I was like, Keenan dug me, but Roseanne and Norm compliment me. I was like, all right, I'll take it. Yeah, that's perfect. was incredible. The king. Yeah, man, he is one of my favorites. Bill Hicks and Norm.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Hell yeah. Yeah, you got good taste. You listen to Bill Hicks stuff now and you're like, I love the albums where he's bombing the flying saucer to. He's just furious at the crowd. It's insane. There's a few Bill Hicks rants that are all-timers, man, all-timers. Pull up the screaming one where he screams at the lady.
Starting point is 00:46:36 That's a bad moment though. That's like, that's like. But he was still articulate. Like he was still entertaining. Of course, of course. I had a, I had a Bill Hick. So I never got to see him. But Susan was friends with Willie Nelson and his wife.
Starting point is 00:46:52 And she surprised me in Hawaii. We were doing a tour in Japan, stopping in Hawaii for a few gigs. And Susan's like, I'll meet you there. We'll go stay at a friend's house. And I was like, I'd really rather just go to a hotel crash. She's like, trust me. So she picks me up, go to this house. They have this wing of the house.
Starting point is 00:47:09 They just let me crash because I'm jet lagged. And I wake up in the middle of the night, wander to the kitchen. And I didn't know whose house it was yet. And Willie Nelson wanders out. Hey, hey, you jet lag? You're hungry? I was like, I am actually. So we ended up staying with Willie for a week.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Wow. And who's the most amazing human on earth? He had this gambling room at Django's Orchid Lounge. It's poker. It was chess. He's like sharp as a damn tech. But I was asking him about Bill Hicks because he lived in Austin. And I knew his politics would be the same as Willie's.
Starting point is 00:47:43 And he didn't know about him. So we went to his living room, his family's there, and I was like, pull up. I forget what record, like, rant and E minor, whichever one it was. And she just pops on this one that just says Willie. And right when it started, I was like, oh, shit. This is Bill Hicks going, any artist that does an advertisement, you are off the artistic rollover ever. That goes for anybody except maybe Willie Nelson.
Starting point is 00:48:08 And he was like, Willie was so fucking high. He's doing Taco Bell commercials. And he just goes in so hard on. Willie. I just met this guy. Wow. This is when we should go to a Shopify ad real quick. I really thought he was just going to be like, who is this asshole in my house? Like playing this.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Then Willie laughs and then a few days later, man, that Bill Hick stuff was great. Oh, all right. So he's a cool guy. He can do a joke. There it is, a Taco Bell ad. I have a bill for that or some shit. I mean, that was a different time. Back when he didn't pay his taxes.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Alright, let's see. Just give me a taste of this meltdown he has here on this lady. Come, get the fuck out of here right now. Get out. Crowd's loving it. You're everything that America should be flushed down the toilet. You fucking turn. Fuck you.
Starting point is 00:49:01 Get out. Get out. You fucking drunk bitch. Take it out. Holy cow. Sounds like my dad. Talking to my mom. Go see fucking Madonna, you fucking idiot.
Starting point is 00:49:12 You fucking idiot. That's a shit. I showed this script to Madonna recently. She was furious. She was like, that was great. Holy cow. Yeah, Bill Hicks, he was one of a kind. He would have done well now.
Starting point is 00:49:29 Oh, yeah, a lot to talk about. Holy cow. Fucking Iran. Can you believe this shit? Just go on. We got to bring up, I know probably a million people brought this up to you, but the guitar you're playing,
Starting point is 00:49:39 the Jerry Garcia guitar, the $12 million dollar guitar. That's wild, man. That was wild, yeah. How did you get your hands on this and how, like, how did the auction thing? Sorry, sorry. That's my instrument. It is ass pocket whiskey. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:49:56 But, yeah, how did you get your hands on this and how did the auction thing go? I mean, it was kind of by chance. One of my friends was in town. He was actually part of APW with us. And he was going down, him and a few partners were going down to take a shot at that Garcia guitar. And so they, it's called family guitars. They collect guitars and get them out to musicians to play
Starting point is 00:50:19 and they try to keep them in the stream instead of locked away. So I went down just to kind of watch the spectacle. They had a John Coltrane horn up for sale that was like estimated at like 40K. And I was like, I'll take a run at that. It went for like 400. Oh, geez. I didn't take a very long run at it. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:37 So I was there like, this will be fun. And then the David Gilmore guitar went for like 12, 4K,000. 14 million. Wow. I was like, what is happening in here? There was a drumhead. The Beatles' drumhead from Ed Sullivan. I think it was like 2.8 million for a like a drumhead.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Who's buying this stuff? Who knows, man. There was a lot of internet bidders. Oh, Elon Musk. But they, my buddy ended up getting that guitar, the Garcia guitar, and they brought it out for the next few nights to the beacon. You got to keep it in the dressing. Was it like security detail with that guitar?
Starting point is 00:51:08 I mean, there probably should have been, but once we got it to the beacon, they let me just kind of keep track of it in the, keep it in the dressing room, and it's fun to play it. I've never played a guitar like that. It's like 13 and a half pounds, like metal. Whoa. Really unique instrument. Look at that beautiful thing.
Starting point is 00:51:26 I mean, the woodwork on that thing is wild. Super articulate sounding and playing. It's similar to the SG I play. I found out it has like a metal nut, metal bridge. So when I would really get on it, I think I broke two or three strings, right
Starting point is 00:51:42 the top of it. Damn. So you can't manhandle it the way you can. My guitar, it's much more precision instrument. But by the second night, I felt like I could really get inside of it, figured out some of the sounds.
Starting point is 00:51:54 But it was quite fun to play. It's not something you do every day. Yeah, yeah. Wow. The guy also brought out one of Frank Zappa's guitars, the Baby Snakes guitar. And that thing was wild. Pretty the fastest guitar I've ever played
Starting point is 00:52:05 the way it was set up. Yeah. Because Frank Zappa, like Les Paul and those guys, they would tinker with their instruments. They would just, modify them. I think it had like a fuzz face inside of the guitar. So it was like a rocket ship that thing that was fun to play. Damn. Yeah, I have Bill Cosby's bed. That is the thing we don't do that. We don't, we don't buy like Jerry's mic. Yeah. That's true. Yeah. Like, dude, this is,
Starting point is 00:52:30 this is Mort-Sol's stool. Like a long skinny microphone. Not the stool, it's one of his poops. That's true. What is that about comics? Because we don't, we don't care about the mic. Any mic. Any mic is Maybe his diary. That's true. Like a notepad would be kind of cool. Notepad's good. George Carlin's notebook, that would be kind of cool. In Rogan's Club, he's got Dangerfield's joke book and notes on the wall.
Starting point is 00:52:53 I've seen that's beautiful. Pretty cool. We ran into George Carlin on the road earlier. We were playing the same casino, and I was like snuck into a show. And then after our gig was covered. Where was this? I think it was probably Vegas. I don't remember.
Starting point is 00:53:07 We didn't do a lot of casino shows with the almonds, so I'm assuming. But I remember going to the, elevator after our show and it's closing and Carlin walks in with two ladies. I was like, yes. Hell yeah. It was incredible. I don't know if they worked with him or what the deal was, but he rolled in, he rolled in hard just it was quite a moment. Yeah, he parted until the end. Yeah, he's a, he's a hero man. His stuff holds up. Oh yeah. He's like a Bill Hicks or those guys where you're like, it's never wrong. Yeah, he's one of those guys with a right and the left claim them. They're like, look, he calls everybody homos. He's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he.
Starting point is 00:53:41 He's like, I hate all of you. Yeah. Out of my face. Yeah, he's got every angle down. I love the angle. The albums like complaints and grievances where every bit just starts. Like, here's another group of people that ought to know who's mother's plans ought to include an abortion. It starts every premise with.
Starting point is 00:53:56 Fellas, how you really feel. Yeah, yeah. Holy cow. He's the man. That's great. Touring with the almonds when you were that young has got to be insane. Is that just, are you just? It was pretty wild.
Starting point is 00:54:05 I mean, I was 19 when I got the call and I think I just turned 20 when I did the first gigs with him and it was just hit the ground running. Oh, sorry, anything you saw too young? Actually, by the time I got there, they were all like just reformed and toy poodles and watching like
Starting point is 00:54:24 Matlock in the back of the bus or whatever it was. It was pretty mellow from the moment. It's going to be a party. They're like, we got to watch some law and order. It was funny because when I met Susan she had double trouble, Steve Ray Vaughn's old band, as her backup band.
Starting point is 00:54:41 Damn. And so it was the Almond brothers and Susan and her band. And they knew Greg from the early, like, hardcore partying days. And so they would not let Susan come on the bus. Like, I was on Greg's bus. And they were just like, you're not going over there. Smart. So I had to, like, court her band to hang out with Sue.
Starting point is 00:55:00 But I appreciated that they were protective of her and they weren't going to let her go. Even though it was a boring-ass bus we were on at that point. Yeah. Not a drop of alcohol. Yeah. But, yeah, they were, I thought that was very sweet. Hey, for a white Russian, almond milk. Ah, like almond?
Starting point is 00:55:16 With this booze? Just saying, okay, put it, put it in the back burner. Oh, you're right. It's vodka. Oh, it was whiskey. Shit. Nah. My bad.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Swamp water. There you go. That's actually probably good on my ulcer right now, white Russian. Oh, there you go. I want to game the system. Cote it. Cote it. Or pepto.
Starting point is 00:55:34 We can make a pepto cocktail. Dinky bets. Maybe we should cut it back a little bit. Yeah, you're right. But, damn, you should hang with the almonds. Are you just picking their brain at all the time? Like, what are you trying to get out of them when you were that young? I mean, you know, that was the first music I listened to.
Starting point is 00:55:49 So they were heroes. And I mean, my uncle was in the band. I didn't see them a lot as a kid. We were, I grew up in Jacksonville, Florida. My dad was a roofer. My mom worked at the elementary school. And so I heard stories about that stuff, but I wasn't around it. But yeah, they were kind of mythological creatures to me.
Starting point is 00:56:07 Oh, yeah. So when I finally met him and I flew out. 13, 14, and played in Greg's solo band for a while. That was pretty wild. Insane. And your friends of school don't understand. No, they could care less, man. They thought that was the lame as shit.
Starting point is 00:56:23 You could have to keep the quiet. You could listen to real music like Ace of Bass. Right. 100%. That's what was going on. Janet Jackson. I mean, that was, I think it was middle school, maybe sixth grade. Entertainment Tonight did this piece on me, and they followed me around school.
Starting point is 00:56:39 And that's back when it was like big camera. and shit and they're hiding in their spots. And everyone's like, why are they following this nerd? Like, why are they? Like, other than two or three of my closest friends had no idea that I played music. But your boys got it. Your close friends. I mean, yeah, but they kind of got it, but they didn't listen to real music at that point.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Well, you're so advanced at that age, like your skill level that you're... And no one's really listening to music at that age. Sure. Like music, some people are, but... It's like boy bands, maybe. But then they come around, you know, high school, college, then it becomes a thing. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 00:57:12 That's crazy. How old are you here, do you think? What is that, 91, 11, 12? That is crazy, dude. That's wild. What is that? Buzzy Meekin's on base. That's some Florida stuff.
Starting point is 00:57:27 This is insane, dude. Wow. Great Barrel. Look at these haircuts. Yeah, he had the best hair. That's a beautiful mop. It's a great audio on this one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:38 So that footage is from this club in South Florida called Tropics International right on the strip next to the Clevelander. And that's the first time I met the almond brothers was there. Greg and my uncle came out, set in. Whoa. And I remember there was a picture of all of us on that stage and their liquor bottles in front of the stage because the stage was on top of the bar. In my grandparents' house, Super Southern Baptist, they had like piece of construction
Starting point is 00:58:05 paper over the liquor bottles. That's pretty amazing. That's amazing. Will Lee from Letterman's band. Look at that. Damn. This is so cool. Rocking the shorts still, long shorts.
Starting point is 00:58:18 Hell yeah. That was a hypercolor shirt. Those were big in the 90s. That was a knockoff hyper-collar. I never get those yet. Yeah. And what are your parents saying when they see this? Well, see, my dad and mom were huge music fans.
Starting point is 00:58:32 All right. They, Elliot Easton. From the cars, is that right? Wow. Damn. That was a, what was it? It's a big music store, thoroughbred music down in Tampa, and they would throw a festival every year.
Starting point is 00:58:47 Okay. It was Letterman's band, Anton Figg, and Will Lee. I forget who that was. But yeah, those weird memories. I haven't seen that in a bit. Wow. I mean, my parents grew up. My dad went AWOL from military school to see the Fillmore,
Starting point is 00:59:04 almond brother shows. Wow. That stuff was like his stuff. He saw Hendricks a few times. As kids, he would take it to the Jacksonville Jazz Festival to see Miles, to see, to see Ray Charles, to see. So music was important. He just didn't play it. But at what age do you see that you have this ability?
Starting point is 00:59:24 So I got a guitar at a garage sale at like, I think nine years old. And my dad played a little bit, like enough to like woo my mom play like bread songs or whatever. And so he figured out quick that I had taken to it. and he knew a guy that played with my uncle, a guy named Jim Graves, and he gave me a few lessons and asked me to come sit in at the local blues club, like a... Whoa.
Starting point is 00:59:46 It's like an open mic thing. So I started playing with him and then another local blues band, Ace Morland in the West Side Story. And then we went to Toronto in 89 or 90. And then it was just kind of off to the races at that point. God. But Ace was incredible. He was a left-handed guitar player.
Starting point is 01:00:03 I think he was full-blooded Cherokee. He was incredible, like very few Native American blues artists. It was like Jesse Ed Davis. But Ace Morland was one of these guys. And that dude could sing. He played slide. He played slide with a microphone stand. Like he had all the drip and swagger.
Starting point is 01:00:20 But he died way too young. But yeah, Ace was quite something. Cancer got him. He lived in Oklahoma. But he was down in Jacksonville for a while. There was this weird pipeline between Tulsa and Florida. But Tulsa had Leon Russell, had like the old, Derek and the Dominoes at Clapton
Starting point is 01:00:37 Band. Mad Dogs and Englishmen, that Joe Cocker band. There were all these Tulsa musicians. It was this amazing scene there. So he was kind of on the edge of that scene. There's that famous rock club in Tulsa. Cain's Ballroom. Yeah, it's amazing. I've been there and it's like, they brag about that. This is where the sex pistols punched a hole in the wall.
Starting point is 01:00:55 That's fucking awesome. Yeah. No, it's the coolest room. That's no more than a coolest room. That's no more than, you just had up. You got to go back to that thing. Yeah. So that was taken for the Fillmore East show in here of course in york city but the picture was taken in making georgia downtown because we were when we were at gregg's funeral we were in the car with dicky betts there
Starting point is 01:01:15 and we drove by that wall and he's pointing out to his son that's where we took the photo but jim marshall took that photo the great photographer do you know story behind it oh yeah please tell my uncle who's on the on the right there yeah one leg out grinning he he said jim marshall just treated him like just hick assholes so the band's piss they're just like we're gonna can kill this guy. Like, it's not going well. And so, so Dwayne tells somebody like, go get, go get my buddy and like, go, go score a bag. It comes back with a big old bag of drugs and flings it at Dwayne and he grabs it and he's holding it between his legs there. And the band's just finally, they like laugh, like finally, it's like the one shot that went to shit. Like the band finally scored.
Starting point is 01:01:59 Or you're the good side of drugs, guys. That's right. Bill Hapley. Tell a good story. That's amazing. Where are you out on Link Ray? You know, Link Ray? I love him, man. Oh, dude. That's a guitar tone right there. Yeah, I was trying to find music to open my special, and I was going through guitar lyrics.
Starting point is 01:02:17 I wanted something without words. Pretty badass. And I fell in love with this guy. I never heard of him. Oh, it's so good. A lot of, uh, it's like an old Fender blackface amp with a bunch of reverb. It's from whole fiction this song. This is great.
Starting point is 01:02:30 Yes. This is the only instrumental ever to be banned on radio. It's so just seductive. So sexy. Well, it was called Rumble, so the power of the people, like, get it off. We don't want kids acting up. I mean, that song will make it crazy right there. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:45 It's so cool. Man, he opened the door. Look, we got a wet-ass pussy. That's a long way. That's on the radio. Look at us. Progress. That and, like, Booker T and the MGs.
Starting point is 01:02:57 Yeah. I mean, those, when you can make an instrumental, that compelling. Yeah, totally. Totally. There's a guy in a forest. Forest Gump. That song, I can't think of the guy who sang it or who played it. It's incredible.
Starting point is 01:03:10 It's in Forrest Gump. Yeah. When he's running with the ball, he becomes a football star. He's being chased by the bullies, and they're throwing rocks at him. It's a guitar tune? Yeah. You'll know it. What is it?
Starting point is 01:03:19 Dick Dale, maybe? Maybe, maybe. Wait, wait, you got to go to the beginning. The beginning. The beginning, you retard. I ran to get well. You can't go further. That's it.
Starting point is 01:03:31 I never thought it as many of it was. Maybe Dick Dune. Maybe that is not guitar. Sorry. Oh, it is. Okay. What is that? That's a lot of horns, too. I don't know, but that's the motivation for my opening, my special. These songs, they all go unheard of. They're all amazing.
Starting point is 01:03:50 That's what we need. We need a song and a movie. Yes. I think you're doing fine. You must get hit up for that. Occasionally. Not as much as I thought, because we did a lot of instrumental music in the early days. We were like, we just need, we need gas on this bus. Like, we need one. talking to movie. Do you get any at first or no? No, we had a Levi's ad with my solo band that bought our Winnebago.
Starting point is 01:04:16 I remember we got a Levi's check for like 38 grand and we went to the bottom band Winnebago. So that was pretty sweet. And recently there was a Chevy ad where they used a song. But it's funny, early days back then that was something you really thought about. You're like, do you want your music in an ad? It was a total different mindset. It was like, I don't think I want it. Well, they call some people sell us when they do it now.
Starting point is 01:04:39 What's your read on that? If it's a big band and a commercial. I feel like there's a line. What is it for? If you need it, then I get it. But it's a different day, man. You don't sell records anymore. There's recording music.
Starting point is 01:04:55 It's like it's kind of a losing proposition. So I don't know. I don't judge people as harshly as I used to. No, go for it. I feel like if you can get through the day, like, making music, like, do what you got to do if long as you... Yeah. I mean, there's certain things I wouldn't want my music used for. Sure, sure.
Starting point is 01:05:13 Political rallies. Right. I don't know about that. J6, they were strumbling. Totally. I don't want it to be the theme. Yeah. But, I mean, George Clooney's doing coffee ads.
Starting point is 01:05:23 Jimmy Fallon's doing bank ads. I mean, it's all changed now. Well, for a while, like, you would only notice that you go to Japan and, like, all your favorite stars are like, here, you'd check this out. You'd never do it in the States. Right, yeah. It's a different world now. Oh, yeah, it's an open game. It's open game.
Starting point is 01:05:37 Matthew McConaughey's a Lincoln car, whatever it is. But he made it look kind of cool. Yeah, that's the trick, I guess. It's weird for athletes. It's totally different. No one cares. No, if you're an athlete, you like made it. It's weird.
Starting point is 01:05:48 Yeah. That's true. And a lot of those are like, you got to get a signature shoe. Yeah, otherwise you're a jump. Right. If you don't have a shoe. It's weird. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:59 Yeah, but athletes judge differently in a lot of stuff, though, I think. Yeah. But the whiskey's going to, that's going to, that's going to put you it on top because that well that's a labor of love actually okay we're fans of that me and my brother for years would go look for dusties down to the deep south you go hit these old liquor stores and 15 20 years ago you could find incredible stuff sitting back there and we found like three packs of pappy for retail what wow yeah but i mean then then once that bubble burst it was over you could you'd find stuff they're like it's two thousand dollars like well you can keep it
Starting point is 01:06:30 At first you could really find things. You're a straight bourbon or rye or guy. Yeah, mainly. I like a good rum too, though. Really? We are very unsophisticated rum drinkers. Yeah, I mean, I'll drink bad rum too. We all have.
Starting point is 01:06:48 Rum and co-bri-Rum. But a good me from a bit of a swizzle. The swizzles the thing there. But yeah, I don't know anything about rum. Yeah. What's a petuga? Pachuga is like a mescal where they put meat in the thumper. It's like an old, old style.
Starting point is 01:07:02 Like they'll hang like a turkey. Does it make it smokier? It gives it a thing, man. It gives it a twang. Man, meat and the thuppers, sounds like gay coat. I can't walk today. Meeting a thumpur. Different butchuga.
Starting point is 01:07:15 But yeah, you'll have to search one of those out. Let me know how it goes. Yeah, it might be good for the stomach. Yeah, yeah. A lot of probiotics. They're postbiotics. Derek Trucks told me to keep drinking. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:07:29 I do love a. a mescal. I love a mescal negroni, dude. You do one of those. So good. It's fun. Yeah, you'll like the butchuga. So wait, if you're at Twelpies band and you're at the beacon, that little elevator, that must be 16 rides going up that thing. A lot of people have to walk. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:45 Depending on age. Seniority in the band, how well they played that night. Attitude, general attitude. And we need a doc about you guys. Did you ever see the band? What is it, Last Waltz? Oh, man, incredible. I fucking love Levan Helm.
Starting point is 01:07:58 Yeah, Leveon was the best. He's the best. We got to spend some time with Leavon. Really? He was one of those guys that if you were in the room with him, you just felt better for it. Like that dude would leave and everyone's just kind of like, shit, what a good human being. He was a hero for sure. There was a producer I worked with and he had just done a track with Leveon.
Starting point is 01:08:17 And he said, he's the only guy that could just play two and four and make you cry. Levin's groove was so simple, but it was just, like, no one can do it that way. It had a lope to it that was just. When you can play something that simple and just stand out from everybody, it's a wild thing. Yeah. It's his humanity. He was like, he was that person. Right.
Starting point is 01:08:38 Then he'd get on a tractor and go plow a field. Exactly, exactly. He would drum and sing incredibly well, which he's got to be, it's so hard. I mean, one of the highlights, I remember of playing the Beacon with the Almond brothers. I think it was the 40th anniversary. Called a lot of old friends of the band. And one night, Leavon came out and Taj Mahal, and we did the weight. Damn.
Starting point is 01:08:58 Levin wanted his kit set up with my uncle and Jamos. So it was three kits on stage. It was Leavon on the side, Oteel, me. And Levan's just looking across the stage, singing, playing the weight. Taj Mahal sings a verse. Greg sings a verse. Wow. It was a heavy evening.
Starting point is 01:09:17 Damn. Those were quite fun. Yeah. Yeah, Levin was amazing. He was, I think there's a drum instructional of him and just some of the best. He's like, and if you're Tom, Tom, Tom's ringing, you just put some tape on it. tape on. You're like, that's actually good advice.
Starting point is 01:09:32 Elton Johnson, nobody should drum and sing, except Levin. Yeah, I think he's right. Levin was something. Our studio in Jacksonville was based on his barn up on his property. Oh, shit. Because I remember I went up there with the same producer that was talking about his drumming. He brought me up there for this session with the band. It was with Rick Danko was still alive and Garth Hudson.
Starting point is 01:09:54 And I was 15 or 16. I knew the band were, but not really. And I remember walking into that place and you just felt like, oh, this is entirely different than anything I've been around. When I left that day, that session, I ended up playing on the tune. It really changed the way I thought about music. Rick Danko actually, no one had ever produced a solo of vinyl I was playing. He's like, just pretend that you're breathing through it. Like, don't fill all the space.
Starting point is 01:10:21 It really made me step back and think about it as like a songwriter or a singer instead of just go. It's so similar to comedy, too. If you're coming off with too much energy. Yeah, it can be off-putting. I've been seeing Leonard Cohen once at the garden and seeing that energy in a room that big. I'm just thinking about Leonard Cohen. Yeah, but he just could control room with just this low energy.
Starting point is 01:10:45 And I'm like, that is fucking, that's a master. I mean, that's master, master. Yeah. I think Leonard Cohen was about as good as it got. Oh, hey, look at that. Love him. I think he's top tier. I have a friend that has been at every show I've ever played at The Beacon,
Starting point is 01:10:57 which is like up in the mid-200s now. Damn. That is crazy. It's pretty wild. But he, my friend went and saw Leonard Cohen twice on that last tour. And he called me after each show. And he was like, I think that's the single greatest show I've ever seen. He was like, about an hour or two in, there's just the air shifted.
Starting point is 01:11:15 Yeah. And he just, like, you just wouldn't expect that because he's not a great singer. He's not, but he just draws you in. Yeah. And it's the greatest songs. I mean, Suzanne is one of the greatest songs ever written. The Nina Simone version of Suzanne. I don't know that. I got to listen to that.
Starting point is 01:11:29 There's two of them, but there's one with a full band that's just one of my favorite recorded tunes. Put that as a wreck then. It's so badass. There's a straight story of Leonard Cohn and Bob Dylan talking I read about, and Leonard Cohn's like, oh, I love this song of yours. How long did it take you to write that? And Bob Dylan goes, 15 minutes. And he goes, I love Hallelujah. And he goes, yeah, that took me five years.
Starting point is 01:11:51 Yeah, he wrote like 100 verses or what it's, I mean, he's got pages of verses that just didn't make the cut. Damn. Leonard Cohen would work on a tune forever. Do you feel that way with like, when you're playing guitar, you're like, is it never kind of done? You're always kind of like, I have a new angle, you have a new tag. Oh, yeah. I mean, I think that's the beauty of music is you, same with what you guys do, is you never
Starting point is 01:12:11 have to hang it up. It's not like an athlete where there's a shelf life, you know? I feel bad for guys that put that much energy into something. And then, like, 31 and like, you're a little long in the tooth. Yeah. I mean, we're like kind of just getting going. And, I mean, I feel I'm 46 now, and I feel like we're just kind of getting into the thick of it in a way. You're 46 and you've been playing since you were nine.
Starting point is 01:12:33 That's crazy. A lot of years on the road, man. Yeah. A lot of road years. Damn, that's awesome. Yeah, I feel lucky that we get to, you get to hone your craft. I remember watching that Giro Dreams of Sushi Dock. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:46 And he was just talking about getting it good at something is pretty easy. Like that first 90%, that next 5%, it gets a lot harder. Right. Those last two, three, four, five, that's where everyone taps out. That's true. You can even get great at something pretty easily. Yeah. But it's that Leonard Cohen shit or that next level where most people are just, they're like, I did it, I made it, I'm done.
Starting point is 01:13:10 Yeah. They kind of stop. And you can tell. You can totally tell no matter how good somebody gets, you can tell when they've stopped trying or caring. That's true. Like, because you aren't going to drift backwards. Right. You just have to like love it or like.
Starting point is 01:13:23 You have to love it. You have to be... Need it. Need it. Yeah. Agreed. You have to be a little crazy. You got to be a little competitive of just like, oh, I ain't done, motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:13:33 Yeah, yeah. Do you see other people you see out there? You're like, fuck, I got to step it up. Oh, yeah, all the time. Like, who's someone you see it? I mean, shit. That's one of the reasons we have our 12-piece band is because there's guys on stage that are kicking your ass every night.
Starting point is 01:13:44 Right. And you, like, you want to, you don't want to be the one left behind, you know? Yeah. You don't want to be the guy in the team that's lagging or weighing the thing down. So that's part of it. But yeah, I mean, you try to surround yourself with the best you can find or go see the best you can see. Yeah. And yeah, it's a beautiful thing.
Starting point is 01:14:04 You definitely find times where you're like, oh, this is, this part's really easy. But then maybe some things you thought you had in the bag, get a little loose on you. You got to go shed that. It's kind of a whack-a-mole in a way. And then you've got to see what you're not great at and lean into it, which is very hard. And a lot of times it's trimming away the fat. It's realizing that you don't have to do all of it and kind of finding the good stuff.
Starting point is 01:14:28 It's tough to listen to yourself though. Oh, man. And it's tough to know the off ramp like when you're making a record of like when can you can't overproduce a thing. You can overthink a bit or anything. There's a sweet spot where it's like where it sings and there's a time where you can just beat it to death.
Starting point is 01:14:46 That's true. So like when you're recording with a full band, you kind of think of these things ahead of time. You don't want the band overrehears. You want to have the song idea and then you want to be set up and ready to capture it when the band gets it for the first time You play it two or three times you want to get it on the second or third take you don't want to get it on the tenth take because then Everyone's trying to recreate something they a little magic they had made earlier It's nice when you can capture it when it's peaking. Is it a place you feel like you capture it best is like a venue or a city where you're like this is
Starting point is 01:15:18 I'm locked in? We built a studio at home about I guess 2006 Wait, where's home? Jacksonville floor. Oh, okay, got it. So down in the swamp, we have this great room that the band formed in, and everyone feels really comfortable there, and we've just, every record we've kind of added to it and tweaked it. So that place feels comfortable.
Starting point is 01:15:36 But what about like a live place? I mean, the beacon is one of them. That's why we keep coming back is kind of where we check in every year, see if we've made any progress or lost some ground. And when we do 10 nights, we try to not repeat that many tunes. So you'll do 100. hundred and hundred plus different songs over the ten nights. Do you get the nerds that do the scale, you know, they got the fish guys who go out and see fish?
Starting point is 01:16:00 They're like, the setup was different, the lineup was different. Do you guys do all that? People pay attention. So that keeps us on our toes, which is nice. We keep a rehearsal room set up on the seventh floor, so we do sound check, and then we go rehearse the band after that before the show. So we keep it moving. Wow. Now, you mentioned Leonard Cohen, your friend said best show.
Starting point is 01:16:20 What's the best show you've ever seen? I don't know. I've seen a few Ray Charles when I was really young. Wow. That's crazy. I mean, getting to be on tour with B.B. King and those guys. I saw the video of you with B.B. King. You're playing for B.B. King and I think John Mayer's there, too. Yeah, that was an epic tour. And they're both just clearly praising you.
Starting point is 01:16:40 Bibi was so sweet. I mean, I saw Stevie Wonder about 10 years ago. Damn. It was pretty life-changing. He didn't see you. We don't know. I can. It's still out. We've seen the video. He caught a mic stand once. I saw him drive in.
Starting point is 01:16:56 It was weird. We did a show over a BB Nut and Yahoo, and that was a lot. We bombed. I got some dome after. That's good. Yeah, so, Ray Charles, that's insane to see him live. That's crazy. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:17:14 Yeah. Stevie Wonder. Give me a whitey. Just throw one whitey in, just for the hell of it. I mean, I never got to see litter going. All right. I saw him a couple of times, and it was. towards the end and they were both incredible.
Starting point is 01:17:24 I mean, to be honest, there were nights standing next to Greg Ammon on stage with the Ammon brothers where he would belt something out and you would just go, oh, there he is. Yeah. There's that thing. Every once in a while, man, there was a song that we would open the show with sometimes. It's an instrumental, don't want you no more, and it goes into, it's not my cross to bear. There's this pregnant pause, and Greg would come in with the first line to be the first vocal of the night, and you could just feel everybody's hair in the room standout.
Starting point is 01:17:51 When he would pin it, it was special. Yeah. And Greg could be all over the map. You know, he'd be sick or he'd be on his substance or whatever, and then he'd be clean. And you never knew what you were going to get. But when it was on, it was, he was different. What was your relationship? I mean, what's your relationship like with him?
Starting point is 01:18:09 Man, he was super sweet to me from a young age. That's good. He took me under his wing, and he was always a gentleman. And he, I mean, he changed my life. Wow. Wow. Crazy a show I ever saw. And I never was even familiar with the band.
Starting point is 01:18:24 I took a little bit of shrooms, New Orleans Jazz Fest. John Battiste. Oh, yeah. Batiste is great. He is unreal. It was like spiritual. I was moved. I mean, again, I was on drugs.
Starting point is 01:18:35 When he was maybe 18 or so, he was playing in Winton Marsalis' band of the, what is it, the Rose Center down there. And we played a show. Me and Sue played with Winton's orchestra. And Batiste was the piano player. And you can tell then, you're like, oh, that dude's a freak. Oh, really? That dude's a badass.
Starting point is 01:18:53 Well, yeah, Witton. He's the best trumpet player on Earth, I guess. Yeah, he's one of them. One of them. He was great. From New Orleans. Yep. A lot of great guys from New Orleans.
Starting point is 01:19:02 Yeah. Are there any cities you love going to again and again? I mean, New Orleans is one of them. Yeah. Yep. Our drummer is from Tula Homa, Tennessee. Really? He lives down in New Orleans.
Starting point is 01:19:10 Hey. Jamo, the only original surviving Ammon Brothers members is from down in Gulfport. So he grew up playing with all those New Orleans cats. Oh, yeah. We got Randy Newman, what's his name? Jimmy Buffett cut his teeth there, apparently, Dr. John. A lot of the great drummers, like a guy named James Black, Ed Blackwell, Zigaboo from the Meeters, like those guys, and then Alan Toussaint.
Starting point is 01:19:33 Oh, of course. Yeah, and Jamo knew all those guys. So when we would play, you'd see him side stage, you're like, you'd see somebody just dressed to the nines. You're like, who is that? Like, that's Alan Toussaint. Yeah, and Harry Connick had a similar childhood like you playing early. And you know the Marsalis and the Batisse family? So John Batisse comes from a very long line of incredible musicians down there.
Starting point is 01:19:56 There's a few families of music down there that are just, it's thick. Yeah, man. They've been doing it since the 40s. And they're, some of them are professors at the colleges. Some of them are just playing in the clubs where they're all equally just freakish music. It's, yeah. Oh, we also got Louis Prima and Louis Armstrong. Just like, sorry.
Starting point is 01:20:16 It's a long list. I'm claiming my hometown. What do you got here? So we only have four minutes. Oh, Jesus. I want to know if you could bless us with something. We have brought a guitar just to play us out. Oh, it's not tune, though.
Starting point is 01:20:26 It might be. Might be tuned. Take a look there. Let's see what I can be here. You know your stuff, dear. Give that, just caress it like a preteen. Oh, my God. I'm playing an open tuning.
Starting point is 01:20:39 Okay. I think it might be open tune. I strummed it. I think it's, yeah. I think you had it prepared for you. Ooh. All right. Let's see if you can get us to come and,
Starting point is 01:20:47 four minutes or less. Let's see. By ear. There it is. I like this. What is it? Epiphone? You don't fucking know.
Starting point is 01:21:20 Oh. You can play Slav with a... Oh, hell yeah. That's when you know you've got a problem. Oh, that's awesome. 12 million bucks. Who needs it? Yeah, that's a piece of junk.
Starting point is 01:21:49 You know, it'd be better if I could tune it, but it does the job. All right, we threw it on you last minute. But look out natural. You just, you fall right on that thing. Do you play? No, no, I can't. I'm a piano man. Not at all.
Starting point is 01:22:06 That's crazy. Wow. That was awesome. Well, dude, congrats on all these nights of the beacon. It's amazing. And congrats on all the success. It's pretty fun, man. The beacon run.
Starting point is 01:22:15 are something else. So, you know, we've had some friends in the neighborhood, Warren Haynes, who I played for 15 years, the Amund brothers showed up the other night. And it was awesome to see the crowd response when he walked out. There's a lot of appreciation for the time he's put in there. So you could, you could, it's a really educated audience for our type of music at our beacon shows. Like, they know the history. Oh, I love that.
Starting point is 01:22:39 They know all the back stories. So when we finished the other night and he walked off, it was an awesome ovation. because it's nice to see one of your musical compadres just get it when people give it up properly yeah like you know in church you get house right he got house it was good i'm such a dork i only learned about him from uh dave matthews no yeah back in college i had a friend who was really into the almond brothers back in the day so that was like you know when you're drinking in a in a bar jupe box you just play a bunch of alms like this is great yeah great music yeah blue sky That's probably my favorite track of theirs.
Starting point is 01:23:17 Yeah. Yeah, that's the best. Dwayne Almond and Dickie at their best. Yeah. Such a groove, pretty incredible. Oh, it's so good. Any artist you hate real quick. It's where we go.
Starting point is 01:23:26 I mean, there's quite a few, but I should probably not name them at this point. All right, I understand. Take that Marcus King. No, I'm just kidding. No, we like Marcus. But thank you, you're the man, you're a legend. Thank you, you, guys. And get some goddamn ass pocket.
Starting point is 01:23:44 Get some ass pocket whiskey and awesome. Thank you guys. Thank you. Wow. Hey, boy, that was a great combo. That was fun. Man, he was awesome. He is so good and he can talk. I guess when you're on a tour bus for 30 years, but those freaks, you gotta be able to... Since you're nine.
Starting point is 01:24:00 Yeah. I didn't know since I knew he was a prodigy. I didn't know he was on the road since he was nine. I didn't either. That is wild. He was amazing now. Shit, he was shredding. That was so cool. I can't be played for us too.
Starting point is 01:24:09 That was incredible. Clip that. Good, good thinking Sally. So we got some dates, Mark. Where are you are? Yeah, I'm in Fort Lauderdale. Come on out. Working on a new hour.
Starting point is 01:24:18 It's rusty. It's clunky. It's sweaty. But it's fun. Then I'm in Chattanooga at the Walker Theater. Raleigh at Good Nights. Haven't been there in years. Love that club.
Starting point is 01:24:28 L.A. for the Netflix Fest. Special's cooking. Then I'm in Ontario. Nouveau Brunswick. Spokane and Philly. And Milwaukee in Irvine, California. The Improv. And Tempe, Arizona.
Starting point is 01:24:44 Royal Oak, Michigan, Cleveland, and Tampa. That's enough. Seattle as well. All right. San Francisco at Cobbs. Can't wait to get back to SF. All right.
Starting point is 01:24:57 Come on by where you at, Samuel. Fuck, I'm trying to find updated. Okay. Well, you're going to be at the Netflix Fest. Yeah, Netflix Fest. What else we have? Oh, yeah, Verona. Yeah, that's May 7th at the United Theater on Broadway.
Starting point is 01:25:12 I'm with Jordan Jensen. list and Rachel Feinstein is going to be super fun. We got Verona, New York, Turning Stone Casino, June 6th, Lisbon, Portugal, and then I'm adding a bunch of shit all over Europe. It should be out by now. It should be on the site. Punchup. Live slash Samarrel.
Starting point is 01:25:27 Lisbon, Portugal, I believe we have Athens, Greece, Budapest, Croatia, Vienna. Wow, that's fun. Yeah, Warsaw, Poland, Helsinki, Finland, Stockholm, Sweden, and Copenhagen. So, and I'll add some more. Yeah, follow us and all that junk. That was the last one. That was it. You guys are the best great app.
Starting point is 01:25:51 See you guys soon. Buy some bodega cat whiskey. Yes. Sunday's a day from a fever wreck. Norman's talking shit about the fucking pump. And I get down in the rest. I'm out to lunch here and new. This woman doesn't look like I remember her.
Starting point is 01:26:24 And I.

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