We Might Be Drunk - Ep 231: Big Jay Oakerson

Episode Date: May 12, 2025

Tonight on We Might Be Drunk, Mark and Sam welcome Big Jay Oakerson for a no-filter deep dive into the wild world of stand-up comedy. From dissecting racial punchlines and controversial ‘80s movies ...to chaos at Caroline’s and a full-blown comedy club meltdown, Big Jay brings the stories only he can tell. They also unpack the fine art of winning over hostile crowds, the rise and fall of podcast empires, and why JB Smoove might be the secret sauce to success. This one’s packed—grab a drink and enjoy. Watch Big Jay’s special They/Them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12kV8tPiLfE Follow Big Jay: https://bigjaycomedy.com/ Support the show and get your 1 month trial of Shopify for just $1 at https://www.shopify.com/DRUNK Support the show and get Lucy Breakers for 20% off with promo code DRUNK at https://www.lucy.co/DRUNK Subscribe to We Might Be Drunk: https://bit.ly/SubscribeToWMBD WMBD Merch: https://wemightbedrunkpod.com/ WMBD Clips Page: https://bit.ly/WMBDClips Sam Morril: YouTube Channel: @sammorril Instagram: https://instagram.com/sammorril Tickets/Tour: https://punchup.live/sammorril/tickets Mark Normand: YouTube Channel: @marknormand Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marknormand Tickets/Tour: https://punchup.live/marknormand/tickets We Might Be Drunk is produced by Gotham Production Studios https://www.gothamproductionstudios.com/ @GothamProductionStudios Producer Matt Peters: https://www.instagram.com/mrmatthewpeters #WeMightBeDrunk #BigJayOakerson #MarkNormand #SamMorril #TheyThemSpecial #ComedyPodcast #StandUpComedy #LegionOfSkanks #PhillyComedy #Shopify #LucyBreakers #FunnyPodcast #CrowdWorkKing #DrinkResponsibly #NYCComedy #PodcastRecommendations

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, we're here. We might be drunk folks. We're back. We're talking right now is is the thumbs up in Text are you talking like when you highlight the text and do the thumbs up? Yeah, just the big thumbs up. I think the big one big thumbs up. They're both passive aggressive Yeah, but that I got a big one from a guy I want to like me and I was crushed was it a comic. Yeah Jerry no But it was it was a cop we all love it no and he's been on the show, but he gave me one of the Selling does that love your show or your special and he went thumbs up. Yeah, but comics can't take a cop my
Starting point is 00:00:46 Hey mark Thank you. Thank you, and it was the big yellow one too Thumbs up. Yeah, that's kind of mean well I loved your special. I said something I said something. I loved I think you would say thanks to I love it Well, yeah might have been something else. Yeah to I loved your special That's painful. Also, we had been chatting a little and then I think he kind of was like, I'm done here That is the problem with texting is knowing when to dip out because you have a long one going. Yes, and I'm nervous Even if it's like a famous dude, I don't want to over know Well, I'm like, I don't want you to think I'm trying to like, get something.
Starting point is 00:01:25 Totally. You know? And I think there's an age thing. Over 50, they don't like texting all day. Like we can go back and forth all night, you know? But over 50 year old guy, they're like in and out on text. I saw Paul Rudd at a Knicks game, and he just came up and started chatting to me. He's really cool.
Starting point is 00:01:41 He's a really nice guy. But I also don't want to be the guy who where he's like, all right, well, it was good. So I'm the one who's like, well, it's great to see you. Like, let me get out. Let me hit that eject button. Yes, in the words of Costanza, the longer I stay here, the more damage I'll do.
Starting point is 00:01:56 I know. So I get in, I get out, I get out of the house. How sad is it that that's both our confidence level in any, we're professional entertainers, and I'm like, the more we talk to you, will ruin it well I will say I'd an abortion joke or I got the other night I was at a bar in a random bar just really nice guy comping drinks I'm getting a I'm hammered I'm hammered after the Knicks loss yeah and his wife is really nice yeah but I say retard and she goes
Starting point is 00:02:21 that's really messed up I work with special needs and she goes that's really messed up. I work with special needs kids. And she goes, I work with special ed and I go well I was in special ed. And she goes, yeah and she goes well I also work with kids with a speech disability. I said I had a speech disability. Whoa! It's like your end work. And she just paused and goes well I guess you could say it then. Yeah! All right! You won! I said you know I kissed a boy in second grade. Maybe there's another word I could say That's how we met
Starting point is 00:02:50 Wow good juck is oh you never win those those are unwinnable, and then I just kept throwing them in there Yes, and she started laughing that I broke her down now. Let me throw this at you and see what sticks I saw a couple of kids at a at an ice cream parlor or pizza shop and they kept throwing the N word out. These are black kids, but they were young and they kept throwing the N word out. And a lady goes, hey, do you mind stop cursing? I'm with my kid. Oh.
Starting point is 00:03:17 And they were like, we're saying the N word. And she's like, that's a curse word. And I was like, that's a good point. I never thought of it that way. She's like- She's a white woman though. She was, with a white kid. That's an interesting- But she's like, that's a curse word. And I was like, that's a good point. I never thought of it that way. She's like a white woman though. She was with a white kid. That's an interesting. But she's kind of right.
Starting point is 00:03:29 But then you got a white lady telling black people to not say the end. So there's a lot of layers here. There are layers. That is a very tricky situation. But you don't want your kid picking up that word. You really don't. Especially with the white kid. I heard them say it.
Starting point is 00:03:44 I don't know. I met Kid Rock's kid. But yeah, no, you're right, but it is a bad word. But you can't tell black people not to say the word, even though, hey, we invented it. There's a lot going on here. I think we invented it. Did we? I assume. We must've.
Starting point is 00:04:03 I think it comes from the Latin. I'll look it up. The Latin? Latin for what? A lot of black people. The word black is negro. That's, oh, okay, okay. That's Spanish too though. But what about Niger? I meant the Latin. I thought it was the African country. Niger? Yeah. That's also probably...
Starting point is 00:04:19 Let's be careful here, boy. I know, I know. We're in dangerous waters here. Well, maybe our guest can tell us when he comes in I don't know how to type this in 1g origin of yeah, well that no that is a sticky situation. Can you say it? Yeah? How old are the kids ah 13? You know young 14? Yeah, so they were they were a rambunctious bunch But they were that is a worse word than fuck agreed agreed all right there it is so
Starting point is 00:04:52 Wait a minute origin lies with the Latin adjective Niger meaning black okay, well that makes sense. Yeah, but you also it's also bad that you know that You don't want to be the guy that was too much about the end word either Right I saw Che years ago at a mic and he goes you know why black people get so mad at the N word? Because we don't even know what it means. And I was like, that's a great point. Because it's just this evil word. And then he went up and used it as the punchline. He did.
Starting point is 00:05:15 That's kind of a callback. No, no. But you know what? They get that. And it's like when a white guy says motherfucker, they get to say the N word as a a punch line and it hits harder it hits It does and it gets overused a lot to a lot of black comics you say it for every punch line You're like well you talk about milk. Yeah, you know at some point you got a little up to my say do you mind not cursing?
Starting point is 00:05:37 Yeah, so that's a tough one we gotta get Sam Jay in here and pick our brain She likes the word. I was in a Knicks game with her once and she's just like, this is like a year or two ago, and she's like, man, I hate Julius Randall. He fucking sucks. Fuck Julius Randall. And I was like, hey, his kid is two seats. Oh. And she was like, shit.
Starting point is 00:06:01 In her defense, she felt bad. She was like, god damn it. Damn. But if you're the son of an athlete and you're bad. She was like, ah, god damn it. Damn. But if you're the son of an athlete and you're sitting at the games, you're gonna hear it. You're gonna hear it about your dad. That's a good point. Those Nick seats really seem like a scene.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Oh yeah, always. The scene. I mean, you're eating Paul Rudd and Sam Jay. I will say- Yeah, Paul Rudd and Sam Jay, the big two. That's a great, between two ferns, Paul Ruddd was on and Galifianakis goes so how's it going pretending you're not a Jew? Which I loved.
Starting point is 00:06:33 And he broke. He broke him. It was great. Damn that's a great line. Great line because I didn't know till that moment because he's like you know fun loving handsome. What is Rudd his real last name? Oh look at him. Oh Ruddstein real last name? I'll look it up.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Oh, Ruddstein. Brzezinski. Ruddberg. Ruddberg. Rudd... Schwitz. I don't know, good question. He's from Kansas City.
Starting point is 00:06:55 You been on the road? That's his name. I have, yeah. By the way, I just had Joe's in Kansas City, the barbecue. Best barbecue I've ever had. Oh, there you go. You been there, the gas station one? I think I have, yes.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Holy shit. Was there a line? We got it, they picked it up for us. Oh, there you go. You been there? The gas station? I think I have, yes. Holy shit. Was there a line? We got it. They picked it up for us on the venue. Had a runner. Dude, it was phenomenal.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Nice. It's pretty great, but you gotta go post-show. You eat that shit before a show, you're like... Post-show, but then the problem is we go on the tour bus. James, our camera guy, James, There's women waiting outside the show hmm and And I was like I just want to you know watch a movie on the bus You know I just want to like watch a movie with the guys let's throw on like LA confidential or something and And James is like can I fuck wonderful?
Starting point is 00:07:36 Knock yourself out bangs one of them in the inner car get out of here Wow Just off your you got like the runoff. I I mean she was either waiting for me or she was waiting for someone Wow, he's a handsome devil He's you know he's a lot. Yeah big grunt big grunter. He's like Serena Williams serving. Yeah, oh my god But yeah good for JMo. Yeah, then we but then but then here's the thing He had all that barbecue. Oh But then but then here's the thing he had all that barbecue. Oh And you saw wake up he gets everybody cappuccinos. He's never done anything thoughtful ever yeah, I know we hotbox that bus Ah, I know he shouldn't have bag and threw it somewhere. Yeah, he's never done
Starting point is 00:08:16 It's like it sucks when someone does something nice, and you're like what did you do good point? Which is probably how women feel all the time? Get some flowers you're like what you're like just cause right right? Maybe that's why we got the Statue of Liberty Francis like sorry we farted on you Wow good for him in the car car sex is not easy Not physically and not easy to pull off a big car and it like went the seats went back. He showed a picture of the car He took a pic. That's guy shit right there. you're gonna want to know is how'd you do it and he goes I actually I took
Starting point is 00:08:48 photos of the car yeah you wanted to retell this story we need pics yeah you're pulling up the logistics of a Honda Civic or an Odyssey that's great yeah wow good for him got the runoff I think that's why a lot of these guys are in these be you know the roadies for Led Zeppelin must have gotten so much poon Just from you know being on the bus. Remember Tom McCaffrey's joke about forgot which behind the music it was but one of them where they're like Like all these roadies are disgusting and they would get blown so the women could go back Yeah, the rock stars and he goes I have a hard enough time getting blown directly
Starting point is 00:09:21 I can't even imagine proposing that like if you want to blow me you got to blow this six these six ugly guys. She goes yeah I wasn't even gonna blow you and he's like all right. Remember that Eddie Murphy story where he's walking out of the Apollo it's the height of Eddie Murphy's 20 years old he's wearing a leather suit he's got eight guys around him cameras are going off this blonde lady runs up she goes Eddie Eddie I'm so in love with you smoking hot and she goes I want you to be the first black guy kiss and he goes well you can't start with me you got to start with these ugly motherfuckers pointing at all these goons good stuff damn out you know 48 hours on TV the other day if
Starting point is 00:09:58 that's just a good movie dude killer movie wait just like it's darker every time I wait dark darker than I remember the opening you're like holy shit It's like a part not just the jail but like I mean just like the two bad guys are fucked up Oh, yeah, and banks forgot. Yes. I forgot. He's in the Beverly Hills cop and for ya. You're right Yeah, but uh yeah better call Saul baby amazing, but uh dude that fucking Just great. It's like gritty. it's gritty as fuck I watched a breakdown of it and it was really smart because I was always like wow he really treats Eddie Murphy like shit yeah and this fight yes and someone said oh he's
Starting point is 00:10:35 like dropping n-words calling him you know watermelon really awful stuff I'm not happy to repeat but they said this is part of where that origin company so it's it's part of the plot that he he's keeping him down because he's a prisoner that all changes when he takes the handcuffs off him and it's like let's go get the guy get these guys there's no more n-word there's no more back and forth they're working together now we're partners right but he was like as a cop and as a criminal this is how you have to treat criminals down you're legally required to call the meeting.
Starting point is 00:11:06 That's right. It's in the bylaws, yeah. Derek Chauvin's favorite movie, by the way. The first half. Dude, it's a good flick though. I mean, 80s Eddie Murphy, man. The charisma's off the charts. Like a pussy make you brave.
Starting point is 00:11:21 So good. That's great. Yeah, that movie's amazing. I think that might have been the Buddy Cop original. Yeah, that was definitely, I mean, because how many black and white movies were there at the time? And then you had Rush Hour, which was black and Asian. That was a fun one.
Starting point is 00:11:35 Great movie. A lot of N-word in that, too, by the way. He makes him say it. PG-13. Wow, that was a better time. Money Talks is not a good movie, but Chris Tucker's just on point, dude. Yo!
Starting point is 00:11:49 We're talking black movies we like. Yeah, right here, dude, pull up. First time here. What's up, man? Thanks for coming. Big Jay Okerson, two crowd work specials. Woo! They and them on YouTube now.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Both on YouTube, doing well, thank God. Yeah, I know, YouTube is not what it used to be, so good for you. It's also just the scariest place, because you, one, get to look at all the numbers. Yes. The beauty of Netflix, you're like, everyone's seeing it right there.
Starting point is 00:12:16 There must be millions at this point. True. And the comments, don't forget the comments, my God. Oh yeah. And also just like one misstep with a word, and you're like, are they gonna fucking bury this? Oh yeah. Because that happened to List, right?
Starting point is 00:12:29 He said, and Joe's pretty clean. Was it pretty in a pretty like benign way to the way he said it? Yeah, yeah. It wasn't like a major like, I mean I know there's only so many benign ways to say. Yeah. Contextually it wasn't a big deal.
Starting point is 00:12:41 They called Michelle Obama, I mean what the, no. But yeah, he said it 40 minutes in too and they still kinda lagged him. Jesus. It's brutal. We had to go back and edit it. I did the, I don't know if it was a mistake, cause the first time, when the first crowd work special came out,
Starting point is 00:12:55 somebody on my social team was in the live chat as me. Oh. And I watched for a little bit, like the live chat, and I was like, I didn't even know who it was, so I'm like texting my management, I'm like, the answer is Tranny's or something, whatever, people are quizzing him. And he's not getting it.
Starting point is 00:13:16 He's just writing back like fire emoji or something. So I was like, yeah, this time I gotta do it. And then people still don't believe it's you, so they're quizzing me and I'm answering, it's moving so fast and then you're also, as you're looking, you are seeing the people being like, why am I boring myself with this? Oh god.
Starting point is 00:13:33 God, the agents are the worst. I had a thing on Facebook, I had a guy set up for me, so I have an auto response to every email or message I get in there. It's not smart, because people will be like, oh, good show tonight and and they'll be like, thank you so much for contacting me, I'll be with you shortly.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Every response is like, fuck you, you piece of shit. I don't know how to turn it off, though. Oh. Oh, that's a weird thing. It's like very fake. Well, they do that to, what's funny is, you see the comedy clubs do that, because if I repost their story or something
Starting point is 00:14:03 about me coming to the club, you get an immediate DM that's like, thanks for inquiring about us. Right, right. Look forward to our many shows by going to this link. Yeah. Auto response. Well, back to the ages, Ari just had that storytelling show and he allowed no industry. It was amazing.
Starting point is 00:14:19 The green was incredible. Everybody got along. Salchies wasn't even allowed in there. It was awesome. He kept everybody out. Yeah, yeah. What story did you tell? I told the story about my black transvestite nanny. Oh, nice.
Starting point is 00:14:31 And a hooker I banged in New Orleans for my virginity and I combined them. How? Did you do it? Yeah, I did it last night. Oh, how was it? It was fun. The show's great. Ari always sets me up weird though.
Starting point is 00:14:42 I went, he put me last on the first show, last minute, and it was after a 20 minute powerhouse extravaganza. I remember that bit, that was killer. Yes. And so I did this whole thing, and I was after just telling a first date story that went bad, I was like, sorry. Luckily Ari was dressed like a asshole
Starting point is 00:15:03 so you could make fun of him. I did the same thing. I him. I didn't say that. I think, I don't know if we're supposed to say who's on it. Yeah, I don't know. Bleep the names. I wanted to do it, but he was like, it has to be something brand new, and I was like, I have one new story closing on it.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Right, and that's the difficult thing. I was like, I can't give it up, I can't. No, don't give it up. Was the thing when everyone's headlining a bunch and then putting out specials and these higher stakes shows too, it's a little more covering of their material. Well the best part was I'm texting everyone
Starting point is 00:15:30 because Ari asked me like three months ago, I'm like, yeah, three months away, get out of my face. And then he's like, see you tonight. And I was like, oh shit. So I texted everybody, not everybody, but I texted a few comics and everyone had not worked on it. So I felt better. No one had even looked at it.
Starting point is 00:15:43 You don't have to say names, but did anyone in your show kind of eat it? Ah, the crowd was so good that it went pretty well for everybody. Damn, that's cool. Yeah, I didn't see anyone in the time I was there do bad at all. Was it at the Box?
Starting point is 00:15:56 Interesting place. Oh, cool. Burlesque Club. Did you ever go there for an actual show? I never did. I went once. A former NFL player took me and Christine. Shea Shea? No, no, Dustin Keller.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Oh, hey, pull him up. He was on the Jets. Didn't he get in shit? No, it was the other guy. Kellen Winslow, I'm thinking of. Oh yeah, yeah. I'm like, oh good, you're not with the Raiders. No, Dustin Keller, played on the Jets.
Starting point is 00:16:16 It was weird, a couple of guys that liked me a lot who would come. It was so weird, these young Arabic dudes that dressed like the flipped up, they had paisleys underneath the flip back sleeves and shit. Good dudes though, but they were coming to Seller a lot when I was working there all the time.
Starting point is 00:16:35 And they became fans. And then somehow through I'm sure nightclub life and dads having money, this guy Destin was a rookie on the Jets, and they started hanging out with him, and they were like, yo, we're gonna bring him around, and he started coming around, and I became friendly with him. What was funny about Dustin, and it's so funny, I'm still friends with him, he lives in Austin, Texas now,
Starting point is 00:16:55 he's out of the NFL, and he's older and stuff now. He was in his early 20s, and you're seeing the behavior of a brand new millionaire. And man, and so I used to think it was so cool that a football player is coming to see me. So I'm like, I didn't buy him anything. Sure. And man, he got, I mean, he would fuck up so left and right,
Starting point is 00:17:16 just keep, he'd get hammered. Yeah. He would get hammered and then... 14 million. In the time he was there, I forget who it was, one of the players in the Jets got in trouble for a DUI. So then they started making it easier for him to party by going, they had access to like a accessorizer.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Oh yeah. A party bus. Right. At 24-7, in case they're gonna drink, that will take them down. Wow. So it just made him party harder. Yes.
Starting point is 00:17:42 But one time he came to the Eastville comedy club where he's full was the old one. Yeah, and he's village. There were some fun nights of that Oh, yeah, really fun nights and hot crowds on weekends. They're good lineups It was like Ted, alexandro you you soda che it was fun It was so funny the guy who ran that club was the opposite with some clubs and some clubs are bad at letting in like the new Talent. Mm-hmm. He was good on getting a new talent, kinda because of who he associated with, that club. But then, as the young talent, you'd be in there going, hey, you should work like David Tell,
Starting point is 00:18:16 and like Kurt Metzger and stuff. And they'd be like, and he'd go, I don't get him. I told him, when Ari moved across the street, when he first moved to New York, he moved across the street when he first moved to New York he moved across the street for me So I go Ari Shaffir. I just moved to town like you're across the street, dude He's just want to work out like this you should like befriend that and like be open to that He's like yeah, I watch this stuff's not my thing Wow like a dummy and I was like yeah
Starting point is 00:18:40 But I think even it's not your thing Ari I get off at a tell So he just didn't get a tell Wow We're to admit you don't get a tell too. Yeah Playing devils honestly, it's probably just like yeah trying to be I guess a words when there's nothing to be said but Dustin Keller went there one night You know I got him tickets to the show and I was coming down from another show and you get that phone call from the club You know, that's like hey man, your boys in here kind of being a problem now. Keep in mind the show and I was coming down from another show and you get that phone call from the club. It's like, hey man, your boy's in here kinda being a problem.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Now keep in mind, he's also a monster of a guy. He's young, he's hammered. What's now his wife, but his hot girlfriend is there. She comes from money, so she's like, and what he did, they went into the club and they just were hammering and saying stuff. And they're on my name, but not just on my name. They're also throwing like You know what Bonnie McFarlane was on stage apparently and he was like That's it I'm not there for this
Starting point is 00:19:41 Bring on Jay and when I get there for this. Bring on Jay. And when I get there, I'm staying outside there. And he's in the lobby at this point, arguing people, him and Lewis almost in a fist fight, which thank God that didn't happen. Oh my God. This is also a pre any kind of training Lewis and not necessarily in shape. You know what I mean? Like against a guy who's like a top physical form athlete. But Lewis was like right in his shit because uh he was just being and I'm outside and like you know you're watching like four walls falling
Starting point is 00:20:09 yeah I'm like I don't want to go in there because I want to be friends with him still like I wasn't ready to walk away from that but I'm like and I'm just bad at going in there and being like hey man you're fucking up right like you're fucking up I mean but we've all been there like you bring the people who are ruining the show for everybody I remember I brought and he's a great guy, but I brought the UFC fighter Kelvin gasolam to the He's awesome. I love him, but He's had a few drinks with me
Starting point is 00:20:35 He's talking a little loud and will so Vince turns him and goes shut up and and Calvin goes I'm gonna fuck this guy up Like no no no he's cool. He's you don't hear a UFC fighter say I'm gonna fuck this guy up. I was like, no, no, no, he's cool. You don't wanna hear a UFC fighter say, I'm gonna fuck up your friend. He's joking. It's also funny because you're going, he's cool, but it's funny because you're going, he's cool, but really the thing is going, you're not being cool. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:20:55 We don't have, not we, I shouldn't include you, but I just don't have that immediate, I have to get to 10 before I unload, so I'm like, how many times, because then I feel like I'm getting kicked, and you're like, hey man, are you not seeing you're fucking my shit up? Like I have to get there though,
Starting point is 00:21:08 I'm still trying to salvage everything at first, which is, which I fucked up. I said my worst one ever was bringing the wrong people. This wasn't celebrities, when I first used to do Caroline's, I first got to the city, I was looking for some kind of work and I'd already done the job by driving strippers and shit to bachelor parties. So I was like, oh maybe I'll be like a door guy,
Starting point is 00:21:32 like a shit strip club in like the city. And there was a place called Bear Elegance or something, it was like right across the street on the other side of Broadway from Caroline's. And I went in there and I was talking, and I just think they just go up there bullshitting. It's essentially a whorehouse. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:49 More or less, they barely, they just stand there waiting for guys to take them in the back and fuck, really. How'd they look? Some were all right. All right. But they. It's in Manhattan. Yeah, I think it's done now.
Starting point is 00:21:59 It might be closed, but the sign's still up for it. But it was a shithole upstairs. But I just bullshitted with the, you know, when you're young comic especially, you can't wait to walk in and be like, I'm a comic, I work here, I work Carolines over here a lot, and you know, I'm becoming friendly with this guy. And like, oh, we love to come see shows.
Starting point is 00:22:18 And the owner, sort of, I'm friendlier with the bartender, but the owner would also be like, yeah, and then he brought the owner a couple times to some showcases and shows I did at Caroline's and were friendly. And then one time the guy goes, hey, I was opening for Brian Regan. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:22:35 And he goes, Duke, can you get me four tickets, which was not easy to do. Sure. And I was like, yeah, sure. Let me see what I can do, and I got them four tickets, and it was the owner, the bartender,
Starting point is 00:22:46 and they brought two of their prostitutes. Oh boy. Which they brought to showcases before sometimes. It was kinda neat, because you were like, oh now these girls are seeing me do my. Yeah, it's true. I might get a free leg.
Starting point is 00:22:55 And then when I pop in for like a drink, you know, at the place across the street. Yeah, those girls will be like, you were so funny. Yes, free hooker. Sure, exactly. And then, so I'd get them four tickets. I didn't know, they put them right in the front.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Oh boy. Like dead center. Were they hookery? Were they all hoarded up? Yeah. They definitely did not blend into the Brian Reagon crowd. But while I'm... The clean comedian's crowd. And of course, and Caroline used to do a thing,
Starting point is 00:23:24 they'd give you a ticket, you take it to your town, I don't know what they did at the end, but like, and they'd write like, guest of Big J, you know, and have it on the board. He never saw that, thank God, but in the middle of Brian Regan's set, I'm drawn out to the showroom because I hear him, like, hey, I've never seen Brian Regan break
Starting point is 00:23:45 his energy on stage at all to a different thing, like, hey, I've never seen Brian Regan break like his energy on stage at all to a different thing and I'm sure it's happened, but like, he was like, hey, you're like ruining the show for everybody. You're constantly talking and it's such an earnest, like, if you don't wanna watch the show, it's fine, but you need to stop talking or you gotta go. Like, it's really, and I'm like, holy shit. This is Regan, the nicest guy, the sweetest,
Starting point is 00:24:05 cleanest comic, and a legend. And he's killing, this is his last run before theaters. This is why his hair turned white. Hair was not white at this point. So, and then I go back in the green room and I'm just kind of like stewing, like waiting for this show to be over so I can go out there and now I am like, I'm, yo, you guys fucked up.
Starting point is 00:24:26 Yeah. Like, what are you doing? And I was gonna go give them shit, and when I go, when the show, I hear the show ends, I go out to the front bar of Caroline's, and I'm waiting, it seems like forever for these guys to come out. And then the two guys come out.
Starting point is 00:24:41 Without the girls, weirdly, but I'm not even paying attention to that, I just start right away, I'm like, yo guys, I fucking work here. Like you guys come here, I get you free tickets. You guys, you know, I'm starting ripping them. And I would go, and I go, and you're gonna bring these girls, and everyone's gonna talk during the show. And they're already apologetic as I'm talking.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Oh, that's good. They're throwing a lot of apologies. But when I go, and they're just gonna talk during the show, and they were like surprised that that's what I was coming at them about. And they go, talk during the show. and they were surprised that that's what I was coming at them about. They go, talk during the show, and I go, yeah, oh, you don't know what happened? Apparently, when the show is over,
Starting point is 00:25:14 I didn't know because I'd gone out to the lobby, and why it took so long for them to come out. When the show is over, when everyone's getting up, some older lady next to them went, thanks for ruin the show for me, and the hooker just punched her in the face. Oh boy. And I was like, he tells me, I goes,
Starting point is 00:25:29 oh yeah, no, one of the girls punched a lady in the face, like, oh! Like that'd be like, wait, what? Holy shit, and thank God, the manager at the time. How old? Huh? How old? I don't know, I never even saw the girls again, or.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Wow. All I know is. You go to Brian Regan and you get punched by a hooker that is not on your bingo card Yeah, and then uh It was the wild and I say I'll always give him credit man the the manager that I think Ended up getting fired from there for like embezzling or something. Yeah Oh, I but I always really liked him actually. Great guy. Great guy, and I think it was the guy that said to me,
Starting point is 00:26:08 he goes, I'll make sure that doesn't get back to Brian and that was your guest, and he goes, let's not have that happen again. I was like, dude, that's when I was like, and you're so young in comedy, that means everything. I'm like, I fucking thought I ruined it with the club, Brian Regan, they already made a thing, really pushing to me, because I was young enough in comedy
Starting point is 00:26:25 that I was like, oh I'll do it no matter. I was like, I want to open for Regan there, you gotta be squeaky clean, and I'm like, I'll sort it out. Wow. So then I'm up there handcuffed on stage already. Of course, of course. What was funny was that guy goes,
Starting point is 00:26:38 and I was young enough, this was enough of a makeup, he goes, swing by the club at one point, man, we'll take care of you one day. Essentially saying, free hooker. Yes. I learned such a funny thing. I went there one day. I was gonna see a commercial audition or something
Starting point is 00:26:52 and I was like, oh, I'll swing by. The guy said he owes me one. How do you cash that in? Well, I went in and he was like, I was like, hey, you told me to swing by. You said you oughta take care of me one day. And he was like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And he goes, there wasn't a bunch of girls available.
Starting point is 00:27:05 He goes, someone's a pretty girl. And he goes. Precious is available. Yeah, yeah. It's gonna give you the B squad. He tells her, he goes, hey go take care of my boy here. He goes, I'll make sure, I'll square up with you later. And she goes, oh okay.
Starting point is 00:27:20 And she goes in the back. And we go in the back and she's just so awkward. Yeah, of course. It's like mid. Yeah, it's like it midday Everything was weird about but she was hot and I was a young fat horny guy sure, and I was like and she blew me and I'm broke and so when I When she was done Blowing me, you know, you know what to do. So like I pulled out like 30 bucks Maybe yeah, and I go and I gave her the 30 bucks and she was like what's this?
Starting point is 00:27:47 and I was like oh, I was just She goes 30 bucks. I don't suck dick for 30 bucks You think I'm gonna come back here and get on my knees and suck dick for 30 bucks And I was like no I thought John said it was taking she goes oh Right right she goes decides you enjoy that baby like the immediate turn. I was like you Can't do that now. Holy moly. What do you think I am, some kind of prostitute
Starting point is 00:28:08 motherfucker? Sorry, I gotta have myself there. I meant, did you enjoy that blow job? Damn, we gotta get her on the show. She's got some, I wonder who she blew. Caroline said we had some nights there. It's just RIP. I think about the nights there, I mean like.
Starting point is 00:28:22 First club I got into, however. They were always. I think me too. I came up a lot, you remember the comic strip days and they didn't show me or Mackie love until I went to other places. Right. And the strip was cool, but the Carolinas was really good to us when we were young.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Oh, we got the open for all the, I opened for JB Smoove once. It was right when he got on Curb. The whole crowd was just yarmulkes. It was all young Jewish people. And JB Smo Smooth is the filthiest comic on the planet. It also comes from his delivery and everything comes from, when I started comedy, JB Smooth was the guy that everyone talked about. Oh really?
Starting point is 00:28:57 In the black circuit, he was like... He was a murderer. He's hilarious. Almost a lot of the things you see that are hacking the black circuit now are just doing JB Smooth. DJ put it on again. Really? DJ hit that, you see that are hacking the black circuit now are just doing JB Smith. DJ put it on again. Really? DJ hit that, you could do anything to this song over.
Starting point is 00:29:09 Right, right. Well he would murder, but you would just see people get up and leave, because it was like families of Jewish people, and they were like, we love Curb, and he even came out to ba-da-da, ba-da-da-da. So they were like, here we go, we're gonna see Leon, and he's like, this is how I suck pussy, you know, and all that, and they just walk away by the end of the show.
Starting point is 00:29:25 This, by the way, is kind of his character on Curb Your Enthusiasm. I know, but it's filthy. Well, I think he found a way over the years, I think his audience became so Curb Your Enthusiasm audience that he's learned how to do his thing in the parameters. Oh, good. Dude, I saw the Larry David shows in Austin. I just went to the Larry David show.
Starting point is 00:29:43 And they do Q&A at the end. And dude, JB fucking murders. Oh, he was there? Yeah, JB and Suzy were there. Larry David shows in Austin. I just went to the Larry David show and they do Q&A at the end and like dude JB fucking murders. Oh, he was there. Yeah Susie were there and they just their comics, you know So they just know how to snipe and know how to like when someone says something stupid this slam them I mean, yeah, yeah, they crush that's great. Yeah, he was a JB smooth a monster. I saw with Garland Airlines was big I got into Caroline's by winning a KB Smooth was a monster. I saw it with Garland. Pfft. Pfft. Pfft.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Caroline's was big. I got into Caroline's by winning a contest sponsored by Salem Cigarettes. Wow. That was like all arts. It was music, fashion, actual art, and comedy. And I competed in the New York, like, and then they had the big finals thing,
Starting point is 00:30:24 and Caroline Hirsch was the judge, and I won the comedy part, and so the thing was to open for one night for Kim Cole's. Whoa, living single. And I was also attached enough still to the black circuit that if it was a black crowd, I was like, oh, I could do well here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Like, probably pandery a bit, but I knew how to do it. But you started in the black room. Sure, yeah, but it was definitely, it was like, I was unwittingly pandering. Right. Does that make sense? Like I grew up in a pretty black, like heavy culture anyway, so, and I never did the thing, I never like,
Starting point is 00:30:58 one thing I never did was talk the talk. Sure. I was never saying things on stage like how I didn't talk at all. I didn't put an affect on my voice or anything I mean, I definitely my material is like, you know, you can't have those superheroes in the hood Definitely know all that shit. Yeah, you're going to a black high school I've never seen you like you walked the lines
Starting point is 00:31:16 I remember seeing you in when I was in high school open for a tell a carol This is fucking cool cuz you were you had great shit then even oh, but then even. But then I saw you on fucking Diddy's Bad Boys. Oh, that's right. And you walked along, you were being you, but I still remember the West Side story, Joe, because you were like, what I loved about it was like, you kind of were like, this is who I am, I'm not fucking lying, my parents and I
Starting point is 00:31:39 watch like musicals together, you know? That was a fun thing to get through in the black circuit, was to kind of learn it's so like It's not so shitty to say but it's like like snake rules like if you go up there confident It means you're already 50% of the way there right like they want to feel like Black and black comics will say this they paid their money And they want to be entertained and if you go up there, they see on you that you're like, boy, I sure hope you guys like this.
Starting point is 00:32:08 They're like, nah, fuck that. Like, I gotta wake up for work tomorrow and this was a $70 ticket for after party and whatever. Like, you know, it's like, be funny. If you go up there and you can weather the initial shit, like, if you be yourself, you can be yourself. You know what I mean, it doesn't really matter. It's coliseum, it's, if you be yourself, you can be yourself. You know what I mean? It doesn't really matter.
Starting point is 00:32:26 It's Coliseum, it's like a killer, you know, the thumbs up, thumbs down. Yeah, the way it looks too, I know. Who's it? Dougie Fresh just sitting up there throwing some. Yes, yes, Exed's Gladiator. They love you, they hate you. The beard is way better now.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Oh, thank you. So is the fucking neck and face. What year, you think? Um, my daughter was a baby 22 years ago. Oh, wow. You threw the Sean John on. That was fun. Oh, that's the thing. They made me. Oh, really? Oh, for Diddy. Damn, I forgot that's him.
Starting point is 00:32:58 The whole thing was a marketing for his clothes. I wish they kept the footage. There was footage of him rubbing my shoulders in the back. What? And then I grabbed his hand and said, I wanna share everything with you. Wow. And then he got weird and then they announced my name. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:33:10 I love that he can like rape people the second you make a gay joke. He's like, that's not good. Yeah, he goes, whoa man, little public for that. Little public. You guys heard the new Kanye gave my cousin heads up, right? Yes, yes. I haven't.
Starting point is 00:33:22 15 year old cousin, right? Oh, I did hear this. I didn't know there was a song. There's a song where he describes it all. He's gone, I feel like he's appropriating white culture because he did a Klan hood, swastika, and now incest? That's our shit. This guy's taking all our shit.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Yeah. What else, did he nice to you? What was his job? That was the only interaction I had with him at all. He wasn't involved much at all. When I did Showtime's White Boys in the Hood. Pull it up. That was the only interaction I had with him at all. He wasn't involved much at all. When I did Showtime's White Boys in the Hood. Pull it up. That was the funniest thing because that was run by,
Starting point is 00:33:50 see this was done, this was HBO, it was P. Diddy, so it was pretty professional, except the fact that he tricked everyone in the signing contracts that made him a manager of yours for three years. What? Diddy was your manager? Well, it's more complicated than that.
Starting point is 00:34:06 That would be great if Diddy was my manager. He's got pulled. What it is is for the next three years after you did the show in your contract, is if anything pops for you at all, if the sitcom you wrote got picked up or whatever thing happened, they will attribute that as probably because of P. Diddy's
Starting point is 00:34:21 Bad Boys Comedy and he will get a 10% cut. Oh, of course. For the next three years of anything significant you do. That's what it was. So yeah, it'd be great if he gave it to you. White Boys in the Hood was funny because they did all black audience. No, there's like a John Jay.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Wasn't Mikey Stefano on that too? Yeah, absolutely. And Joey Gay. Yep, Joey Gay for sure. Voss, I'm sure did it. And I think Metzger. Kurt. Metzger.
Starting point is 00:34:43 And then the other, you know, the people you know, Jason Andors, Ray Lepauw. Remember Jason Andors. Yeah, and then the other you know the people you know Jason Andors Ray La Paz Remember Jason Andors? Yeah, he's doing now what heroin full Spanish comedy in Puerto Rico he moved to Puerto Rico like you know his name is like you know Blanco and Fuego Something that's ridiculous for him. That's him right there. He did the intro for the show I mean this was a big show. I remember this show Well, what was really funny about was talent was the hosts remember talent? Oh, yeah, talent Harris hosted and treated it. He didn't understand that like television is Contractual and legality is involved. So I think was Mike Vecchione
Starting point is 00:35:21 I don't know if you guys remember Rocco at all. Mm-hmm Rocco Stowe and I think it was Mike Vecchione. I don't know if you guys remember Rocco at all? Rocco Stowe. And two other poor, sad, white, can work a black crowd comedians. Oh, Mark D'Amayo. Showed up for the day because talent was telling people when he would get drunk
Starting point is 00:35:38 during the week, he's like, yo, come through, I'll get you on. Oh. It's like, it's totally. And you see the producers over there while he's just drinking Heineken's, he'd be like, you can't, he's like, come on, we can get my you on. And you see the producers over there while he's just drinking Heineken's, he's like, you can't, he's like, come on, we can get my man on.
Starting point is 00:35:48 He's like, there's a whole process of the Audi and screening the set. He's like, I'll throw you up. And they kept telling him, just all the names of the black clubs, like, this isn't Nakasaki's fucking Freeport, Long Island, dude. Hey, hey folks, we might be drunk.
Starting point is 00:36:02 It's brought to you by Shopify. Anytime you're starting something new, it can feel overwhelming. Finding the right tool to help you out can be such a game changer. For millions of businesses, that tool is Shopify. With hundreds of ready to use templates, Shopify helps you build a beautiful online store
Starting point is 00:36:18 to match your brand style. It's even packed with helpful AI tools that write product descriptions, page headlines, and even enhance your product photography. This is good stuff. If you're trying to sell anything, we sell merch, we sell booze, we sell our souls out there, and now with Shopify, they make it easy and they make it look good. So save the time, get yourself on Shopify.
Starting point is 00:36:45 It even helps you create the perfect marketing emails to get people adding to your cart and checking out easily. Turn your business idea into chaching with Shopify on your side. I haven't done a chaching in 30 years, I wasn't ready. Sign up for your $1 per month trial and start selling today at Shopify.com. Go to Shopify.com.
Starting point is 00:37:08 Thank you. Lucy's home. Lucy, the greatest provider of nicotine products is here to help you with your nicotine fix. Check out Lucy Breakers. These little wonders take your standard nicotine pouch and kicks it up 100 notches to make something brand new. Pouches with little capsule inside that breaks open to hydrate the pouch with flavors like berry citrus,
Starting point is 00:37:31 apple cider, even espresso. You can be a classy person with this right here. Yeah, I mean, Mark, you love this stuff. Oh yeah. The nicotine pouches, the Lucy, you're into it. Gives me a nice kick, it's great, just pop it down in there, and no one even knows the diff.
Starting point is 00:37:46 You'll feel like Ty Cobb in the 20s without the racism. They've even got their standard pouches and gum and a wide range of strength and flavors. Spare yourself that weekly trip to the gas station and sign up for the monthly subscription so your Lucy is always stocked. Level up your nicotine routine with Lucy. Go to lucy.co slash drunk and use promo code drunk
Starting point is 00:38:05 to get 20% off your first order. Lucy has a 30 day refund policy if you change your mind. Again, that's lucy.co with code drunk to get 20% off. And here comes the fine print. Lucy products are only for adults of legal age and every order is age verified. Warning, this product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Yee-haw! You know the Joey Gay story. Pull up Joey Gay if you can. That guy would murder. Murder. Joey Gay was so funny. I know and then he became like Pete Davidson's phone holder or something. Oh, is that right?
Starting point is 00:38:38 I didn't know that. When Pete was first dating Ariana Grande, he invited me and Christine to come over to their place and we went there and me and Christine felt so outta whack, like old people walking around, these young kids, and then he goes, oh, come in the bedroom, I was hanging out in the bedroom and there was a guy tattooing a bunch of their
Starting point is 00:38:59 23-year-old friends or whatever, 22-year-old friends, and Ariana Grande is there, and I'm starstruckruck enough. You know I mean this is fucking wacky She's huge I mean even Pete at this point is starting to have that fear where you're just kind of like shit yeah, he would probably be done calling me at this point right and And then just look you know looking around that room. You just see in a corner. It's like 50 year old something Joey Gays like hey Well the guy kills, but he yeah, he got white Boys in the Hood and he was like, oh my god, he got it off some show he killed.
Starting point is 00:39:32 So some guy comes up to him and he goes, you're on baby, two months this date, coming to this theater at this time. And he was like, I'm in. Calls everybody he knows, his mom, his friends. He shows up that day to do like makeup and hair and they're like, oh, you're not on the list. And he's like, I'm on the show. And they're like, you're not, you're not going on.
Starting point is 00:39:49 We'd have never heard of you. No one mentioned you. Check under Joey. That was his theater name. But yeah, so he was like, I'm on the show. The guy booked me Greg or whatever. And they're like, oh, we talked to Greg on the headset. He doesn't know who you are.'s like he fucking booked me what the hell
Starting point is 00:40:06 so Joey's like fuck this I'm doing the show and they're like you're not doing the show so they kind of like get security to push him out of there he sneaks to the back of the theater pretends he's like a janitor gets in the door and he just goes into hair and makeup and just sits there like I'm third on the show he kind of like avoids everybody hides in a broom closet and then he goes up to the host while some other comics on he there like, oh, I'm third on the show. He kind of like avoids everybody, hides in a broom closet, and then he goes up to the host while some other comic's on, he's like, I'm next, I'm Joey Gay, and the guy goes, oh, okay, and they bring him out and he does it and he kills.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Jesus. Luckily it was Talon who would throw anyone. Yeah, exactly. The first gathering of the Juggalos I ever did before there was a crossover audience, so it's a little nice, I did it last year, it was great because the crossover audience, but no one knew we were at first.
Starting point is 00:40:48 And it was a year that, I mean, that's the same year DeRosa told the story on his half hour special by getting booed by them. They, the night I did it, they hated Lewis, right into hating Vecchione, right into hating me. Damn. How do you get booked on this type of gig? Back then, I forget who it was. It's just like when they get involved, they go, we want comedy, they go to Book me. Damn. How do you get booked on this type of gig? Back then, I forget what it was.
Starting point is 00:41:06 It's just like when they get involved, they go, we want comedy, they go to a booker. Right. So that whoever that book, I forget, it was like a comic. But DeRosa had already bombed this. He may have done it the next night. It was like a few nights in a row.
Starting point is 00:41:16 It was the first gathering of jugglers where they had comedy, I think. But at least the first one I did. That's a scary gig. And it was a scary, now it's like so pleasant. Really? Really? Really? They're older.
Starting point is 00:41:27 They're older one for sure, but they're also like, we just have a crazy crossover audience. When we were walking around that felt like we have to like have a cart to go around or else you'll be like mobbed, which is great. That's cool. It's great for the comedy show. They come and like they're quiet and they listen to the show midnight after they just watched, they're all covered in soda and shit, but they come enjoy it. But that first time they hated us,
Starting point is 00:41:47 and notoriously that weekend, Joey Gay, fucking murder. He plowed through it, man. So it's like, he started off in Staten Island shit rooms. Exactly. And he never really graduated to like headlining clubs on the road. So it's like, those guys are gonna become scrappy and have situations better,
Starting point is 00:42:04 cause you're like, how many times on the road, if I went now, if you were like, you have to do an hour to an audience that's against you, I'd be like, you could do it. Or you could do the time, but you're like, I don't know if I'll turn them around. You know what I mean? If they're just coming in, they're gonna hate me.
Starting point is 00:42:18 I remember feeling that feeling at the time where I was kind of like, any show I do, I can do fine at that point. And then I went to with Adrian Apoluchi, we co-headlined a woman's college or something, and I was just like, from the first sentence, you're like, you can't even rope him back in. They don't want Adrian either.
Starting point is 00:42:39 They did not, they did not want Adrian. But I think she was a pleasant, they were like, oh, thank God. Right, right. The woman is finally gonna talk to him. And then yeah, I don't think they liked think she was a pleasant, like they were like, oh thank God. Right, right. One of them is finally gonna talk to her. And then yeah, I don't think they liked her stuff either. Well, same body. Too dark.
Starting point is 00:42:50 But Joey Gay used to walk out, this is how good Joey Gay was. I opened for him in Looney Bin in Staten Island. Remember that room? Yeah, of course. Took the ferry out there, I met Pete Davidson, he was 14, it was crazy, but it was all mob run. So I went up and I ate shit, and then Joey Gay's like,
Starting point is 00:43:04 don't worry, I'll get him. and he walked on stage and he goes sweet Caroline and the whole crowd went bop bop bop He goes and that's how you find white people in the woods and that murdered and then he was set for an hour That's a great opener dude. I remember watching with CB's. I mean yes think about the bombs. We took at CB's I mean I great nights there too sure but I still remember Wayne Raiders abuse of us like yeah oh yeah Mark and I in the back of the room just like whispering and he'd be like shut the fuck up and we'd be like yeah by the way that was louder than the whisper right but we like and then he I'm so sorry guys I got my temper shots and we just start drinking really this
Starting point is 00:43:39 is such a toxic environment but we got the free meal too and that meal was amazing for a poor chicken Milanese is lovely. Oh the whole thing, their tuna tartare was fantastic. I got thrown out of there. Tell me what you think about this. You get a free meal every show. So I did a show but I had already eaten. So I was like I'm going to save my free meal.
Starting point is 00:43:59 I went back the next night when I wasn't on the show and I was like hey I want to get my meal and the guy was like you're not on tonight. I was like yeah but I did a show last night and I wasn't on the show and I was like, hey I wanna get my meal and the guy was like, you're not on tonight. And I was like, yeah but I did a show last night and I didn't eat. And he's like, well you can't do that. I'm like, well it's, I get a meal. What's the difference?
Starting point is 00:44:12 What's the difference between a meal tonight and tomorrow? So he wouldn't let me eat there. Technically above board. Your argument is sound. Thank you. Without a doubt. But it's more like they should have just given you the meal and been like this, like, okay.
Starting point is 00:44:25 Yeah. I wouldn't have a problem if you just said they gave you the meal and they were like, I guess. If you do the gig, you're down a meal. I did the gig, I never got the meal. The next night, you're still down one meal. I feel like it's all cut and dry. Logically, it is Sam.
Starting point is 00:44:39 Okay, thank you. Well, the problem is. Never work there again. Wayne was great at like buttering up the comics in the good times with stuff, and then if you come to expect it, it was kinda like that was whipped back at you pretty hard. Oh yeah. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:44:55 Well you come here and you eat a meal every time. I thought that was the deal. Yeah, exactly. Why are you yelling at me for the deal? That's when you knew he was gay. You got like caddy and weird, and you're like, oh I forgot you're gay. You could get your cookout, we'd go to your barbecue
Starting point is 00:45:07 and I'd see Wayne right there, it was the first time he was feeling good. No, no, no, the barbecue was at his, that was always his place. I thought it was your place. No, no, no. Oh, I was like, you're doing pretty good. No, no, no, that was Wayne's apartment building.
Starting point is 00:45:18 In the village, East Village. In the courtyard, yeah, I lived a few blocks away. But he had that courtyard and then we can go on the roof and do fireworks, so it was a great place. It was, yeah, we always have a time, it's always funny, it ends up stoking up like his anger in some way, because he listens to all of this.
Starting point is 00:45:34 We love you, Wayne. Wayne, oh, every minute. Wayne, thanks for the $10 spot pay, I appreciate it. And the meal. Every minute of all of it, but that's a... He was entertaining, I didn't feel it. Oh, listen. Character.
Starting point is 00:45:47 It was funny, like a year or two back, me, Dave, and Lewis did an episode of Legion of Skanks called A Walk Down Memory Wayne. Because we ended up talking, I think we were talking about something ridiculous he did. But then it was like, we did have a genuine hour conversation about, because there is, for all the ridiculous Waynes being Waynes stories,
Starting point is 00:46:09 there is, I mean, he was managing me, which even if it's ridiculous in its own right, at the time I got a nasty show in Montreal, which was a big deal in the gala, maybe my half hour? He was like around for a couple of the big, we went to Montreal together and stuff and like great stories and stuff.
Starting point is 00:46:31 But I mean. He hands you a $10 bill for your half hour special. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Great job, kiddo. And I mean like great hangs, his shit talk was top notch. Like I was very inner circle. He was fun. He was fun.
Starting point is 00:46:43 But it wasn't abusive, He was funny as hell. So funny. Very very funny if it wasn't happening to you but I mean like you know I'm right there watching. I remember having DeRosa one time. I was like he likes to build he likes to break down he's a marines dude he breaks you down and build you up. Yes. But he wants to kind of control that narrative. Right. And I remember DeRosa was my roommate still pretty new in New York and Wayne was running the Boston Comedy Club and it was like a New Year's Eve and it was my roommate, still pretty new in New York, and Wayne was running the Boston Comedy Club, and it was like a New Year's Eve, and it was like, put your, you know, for whatever, give him a couple bucks
Starting point is 00:47:08 and just give him a spot, you know? He's like, you know, and then he's like, yeah, for sure. And then, I mean, morning of, it was like, I can't do it, pal. I'm too slammed with ba-ba-ba. But he calls it, it's like, really like harsh. Because he'll give you like the, like, listen, I gotta cut somebody and it's gonna be you.
Starting point is 00:47:26 You know, to make you feel shitty about it. Yeah, yeah. And then Joe went in his room and he was just like, and he came out at one point and he goes, I'm gonna take the bus down to Fillier, Pennsylvania. He's like, go hang out with my friends for New Year's Eve. I'm not doing the show. And I was just like, I knew Wayne at this point.
Starting point is 00:47:42 I'm like, Joe, if you wanna go party, like go party, if you do wanna do Spots tonight, I'm telling you, he's going to call back, cause now he wants to be the hero. Yeah, yeah. He wants to break you down so hard, you said it's like abusive in that way. Yeah, manipulative.
Starting point is 00:47:57 He wants to break you down and be like, you know, and then you go, when we pitched a show one time, the way you would call back and be like, Comedy Central hated it, they said it's just like this, and they, whatever, you know, it's all just negatives. And I was so emotional at the time, and I'm like texting or messaging, emailing the Comedy Central people,
Starting point is 00:48:15 I'm like, you know, sorry you didn't like it, I'm on your shitty stuff. And then the guy's writing back, he's like, no, I said that I thought it was very, very funny. He's like, I just said that we have, like we said it's like, we have Workaholics, which is a three buddy comedy thing that you kind of wrote here.
Starting point is 00:48:29 So I was like, but you should just keep pitching it. He's like, it's very funny. And I was like, that's not the way it was conveyed. And by the way, maybe it's not the way it was conveyed to West Group too. Who knows the reality, the situation. But it's just like a- He was a great character though. Yes
Starting point is 00:48:46 He was a great funny. Absolutely you need those listen Craig Glazer Do you remember that was Kansas City's Stanford? I never worked. I know I heard I heard the story But these characters like this any brand I never got one time. I saw the old Side splitters guys Bobby Jewel. Oh Bobby I still get voicemails and Bobby One time I saw the old side splitters guys Bobby Jewel Voicemail some Bobby You Jew liberal queer Playfully, oh, yeah
Starting point is 00:49:19 No, but a little bit of both I mean he liked me he was like, but I remember I had Dina Dina Hasham open for me and he was like, but I remember I had Dina and Dina Hasham open for me And he was like let me let me let me cook you guys both dinner, and I was like oh, thanks Yeah, that's great. So we're like before the show. It's like nice big steak dinner. He's pouring us wine all these nice sides He's like being charming. He's showing all this like baseball memorabilia, and I was like wow what a lot and Dina's like wow He's so nice, and then of course he shows up And I was like wow what a lot and Dean is like wow he's so nice and then of course he shows up Piss drunk to the club at like 10 p.m.. Yeah, and he's like you fucking piece of shit. I cook dinner for you You offered yeah, I did this over Wow
Starting point is 00:49:54 Piece of shit he was so funny He was hilarious. I don't want to say uh the club But there's a guy when people get like they try to be too comfortable with you almost based on what they think your personality Yeah, yeah, whatever, but there was one club. I remember the guy kept telling me uh there's a guy when people get like, they try to be too comfortable with you, almost based on what they think your personality is, they think you're comedy or whatever. But there was one club, I remember the guy kept telling me, you know, they have, we have food at the club, but like, you know, in between we can order you some
Starting point is 00:50:13 like the food in this town. You're doing that for me somehow, but it's also like, all it's really doing is making me, I'm like, we don't know each other. Right, right. Stop talking like Pacino and Glengarry. Never offended by like, the words don't give a fuck about say whatever you want But it's like when you don't know me at all and you're just like okay. Yeah
Starting point is 00:50:34 It's like don't put on a show for me. That's a great thing like you're making a joke really It's like you're trying to you're you're putting it out. There's like this is just how I talk to write give a shit It's like it's not no You're playing some character up sort of and then you think I'm that Bobby did talk like that putting it out there, it's like, this is just how I talk, dude, I don't give a shit. It's like, it's not. No, no. It's not how you talk. You're playing some character up, sort of. And then you think I'm that guy. Bobby did talk like that. That's true, that's true.
Starting point is 00:50:51 I probably, I've told this before, but my favorite one was, he was, there's this comic role with Sanchez, who's so funny, and he was a murderer, and he was opening the shows, and he was like- Oh, he is good. Really funny. Super funny. Things in San Antonio right now, but he's like ex fucking you know
Starting point is 00:51:09 military served in Iraq fought saw people die and Bobby just talking shit to him at the bar and roles drink with me, and he's like you fucking you Indian you fucking Bobby's Mexican he goes what fucking tribe are you? Goes airborne infantry what tribe are you from, bro? And he goes, Airborne Infantry, what tribe are you in? And Bobby just goes, well played. He makes a step up his rank, and I was like, all right, he taking L occasionally. Well played is funny. Bobby was funny as hell.
Starting point is 00:51:34 He's funny. We were, the Craig Glazer guy, I had so many dealings with him, he would pick you up in a Lotus, a fucking two-seater, tiny little car, like you're a slut, and then drive you to morning radio and then do all the morning radio with you. Oh, geez. And everybody hated him.
Starting point is 00:51:52 And every woman in every building, he would harass and make uncomfortable. What club was this, he runs? Stanford and Son. Stanford and Son. Oh, right, right, Kansas City. And he goes, and one time I brought Christine with me, like, by the time this club had moved two times now, and it was in Overland Park, Kansas now,
Starting point is 00:52:08 I was like, I don't know how much longer this guy's, like you know, I hear he's stiffing people on money. So I go, I don't know how much longer this guy's gonna be in the biz. I go, you should come with me to this one, and just, for no other reason, come do the morning radio run. I don't know if he's gonna hang out at the shows,
Starting point is 00:52:21 but he always does anyway. Goes on stage every show. Oh no. Not even for comedy necessarily. He doesn't even pretend he's doing stand-up comedy. He just goes up there and personalities them for a while, giving them, you know, and hitting on chicks. Sure. Whatever, he's such an awkward dude.
Starting point is 00:52:35 And I heard about the like ton of blow at that club, right? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Hard to get paid, I heard. He made his staff sign NDAs that they wouldn't complain about sexual harassment stuff because comics tend to be a little like this with the ladies.
Starting point is 00:52:52 It was fully, I know the staff would tell you, the staff was great there. They were one of those staffs at one point, they were there for a while. So you'd go every couple, you know, you'd go every year and like be the same people there. And they were like, yeah, no, he makes that for himself. The most rabbiest, weirdest, creepiest guy in the world.
Starting point is 00:53:06 And when I brought Christine, I told him, I go, hey, I'm bringing my girlfriend tomorrow, so you still have the Lotus? And he was like, I'll bring the Benz. So we get in this Benz, and we're driving. And where you go to do the radio, it's in Westport, which was a bad part of town. It's where the first stampers used to be.
Starting point is 00:53:31 And it's like a bad part of town. And he's telling us, he goes, yeah, he's been, he's had known Christine for 10 minutes drive. It's always known her. I'm nervous. And he goes, yeah, he goes, the old club used to be right over here. And he goes, and then before you know it,
Starting point is 00:53:48 the neighborhood just started changing. He goes, and there was a club over here, and then we'd have our little club, and then it'd be a line of N words. And he says it, drops it right, wrapped around the corner, and he's just like, no. You know, you're like, well, anyway, her name's Christine. She's originally from California,
Starting point is 00:54:07 been in New York for a couple years now. Yeah, it's like that blind just like, and I said, you know they're picking their marks. Yes. And I just get a weird thing with me, I'm like, why do you think I'm the mark? Exactly. And again, unaffended by it, I'm more offended by like,
Starting point is 00:54:22 you don't feel like you have to feel me out a little bit more? Right, right. We both used to have this this great bit about like when someone's racist to you You there's that weird combination of like you're like, oh you piece of shit, but also like I didn't know we were so close Yeah, you trust me. Yeah, but you're you're cut from a different cloth than most kind of most comments are nervous Nebeshi remember that guy walked on stage at the strip with William Stevenson Yeah, and he was gonna beat the fuck out of William Stevenson, RIP? I think you can find this clip on YouTube, but you stepped up to the guy and pushed him off.
Starting point is 00:54:51 Maybe it's on you, I don't know. Yeah, I got the guy off stage. Was it at the Strip? At the Strip. This is my last time, that was my last night ever going into the comic strip. Wow, because of that or just? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:01 Well no, it was based off of that. Yeah, I don't think there was any cameras on that. But your bouncer, your bouncer kicked in, like your old. Well, it was more just like, I was, listen, when the thing was going haywire, because what happened was, I did the first show there that night. Maybe it's not. Where I was doing the last two shows,
Starting point is 00:55:17 there's definitely no video of it. There was the second two shows of the night I was doing there, closing them, and when I closed the middle show, that place had degenerated at that point. I don't know what it's like now, but it was all street team at that point, barking people in. It wasn't what, I worked there in like,
Starting point is 00:55:34 not the golden era, but like a good time. The weekends were like Patrice and all these names of guys who were like killing it in the city. And the room was awesome. Great room. Great fucking room. Yeah, it was close. And I love doing it and watching it kind of just like
Starting point is 00:55:47 eat shit and become like a group of 15 Puerto Ricans who think that it's their show, and they're pissed because they were lied to about, and it was always just like, I used to go up there, my fun thing I did by the end there was going up there and just finding out who's beefing in the audience, because they were. Somebody doesn't like somebody at this table
Starting point is 00:56:07 and they wish that bitch would shut up and just like peacemaking. Yeah, that's funny. Everyone's just trying to get laid tonight. Like don't ever, the guys are pissed because they see their girls are getting out of the mood, you know, they're currently with each other. And just try to fuck with them like that,
Starting point is 00:56:19 but it was out of control. William Stevenson didn't give a fuck. Like he was just collecting the check, you know, collecting his cash. So he would go up there and he'd just let him talk all through it and whatever. And he had no control over the room on that second show and I went up there and even when I was trying to work
Starting point is 00:56:35 the crowd a little bit, they were just shitty. And I got off stage and I said to Christine in the cab, I was like, I think you just saw my second to last spot for a long time at the comic strip. I go, I'm not gonna put in there anymore. That's a bummer. I go with that place. Because it is a classic, that's where I met you. Yeah, it's fucking bummer what it was.
Starting point is 00:56:51 I used to do late night there every night, man. Wow. I loved, I loved. It was so great. And even at the end of that two hour, whatever, two and a half hours, they'd still be hot sometimes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because people keep coming in too. It was like that kind of rotating thing.
Starting point is 00:57:03 The Deseller used to be like that. Oh yeah. Which was kind of fun. You know what I mean? I said, I worked at people keep coming in too. It was like that kind of like rotating thing that The Cellar used to be like that. Oh yeah. Which was kind of fun. You know what I mean? I said I worked at The Cellar at a time where like when I went on stage sometimes there was 20 people only in the audience. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:13 That changed. That's crazy to think about. That's crazy. Now they have four rooms and they're making another one. The biggest. Yeah, right. The biggest of them. But where was I at?
Starting point is 00:57:22 Oh, so William and Stevenson. They're never working there again. Yeah, so when I go back for that last set, it's funny, I at? Oh, so you're never working there again. Yeah, so when I go back for that last set, it's funny, I was going back, I just started talking about the comic strip to Christine and I was like, ah, maybe I'm being crazy. I go, it's like, literally, comic strip, it's where I met my ex-wife, my daughter wouldn't be alive,
Starting point is 00:57:38 wouldn't exist if it wasn't for the comic strip, it's the second club I ever got into in New York. So I was like, ah, maybe I'm being hard on myself. And then as I'm watching the next one, William has no control over the thing. Some girl had her feet on the stage and he did like, I mean even like the hack need, like are you in show business?
Starting point is 00:57:57 Then get your feet off the stage. He throws it like right away. And you're like, which is funny. And then the boyfriend's talking shit back and he just Stevens like man Shut up. Well, you know that guy was huge Oh, there must be video because I saw the guy was giant. It was like a big blonde guy That's tough though out of the gate when the code You might be confusing it with the one there is a video of it was a kill Tony
Starting point is 00:58:22 Where the guy goes at Jeremiah walk-ins and I get him off I push him off stage. Oh, I don't which is there is a video of that. I swear was it the strip I remember I remember something someone it must have been a pick or something must have been a pick cuz I saw you like get in between them, but there was a That was yeah, so this a little so the guy the guy jumps up Yeah, this is Jeremiah. That's a different story, Matt. Oh yeah, this is definitely not.
Starting point is 00:58:49 This guy's on mushrooms and out of his tree and he tries to go with Jeremiah. Wow, the nicest guy in comedy. But I wanna know what happens on this late show. So when I, so William's telling the guy, and the guy starts jawing at William's whatever, and then the guy gets on stage. And I'm like, nice.
Starting point is 00:59:07 Because the heyday of the strip, like my mind was like, I mean, I'm still friends with Gills, one of my close friends who was a bouncer there forever. Omar now went on to become a Long Island police officer. But these guys were like good bouncers. And good in the sense like they weren't like a talk shit and ruff you up. They were get you outside guys. They were like let's just get you outside
Starting point is 00:59:26 and then all right bye. Sure, we'll fight you. Let's go tough guy. We'll get outside and they get outside and close the door and like you know, we'll see you later. There was no bouncers. When I came in at night actually they were laughing.
Starting point is 00:59:39 They said they were gonna kick somebody out but they decided not to, which I hate this. We figured we'll let you handle them. Yes, of course. Because you talk to the crowd and stuff. But they took the manager, Dan's hat off, his fedora hat, and started doing a keep away from him. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:59:55 As soon as they walked in, and they said they didn't kick them out for that. Jesus. Fucking wild. Fucking wild. By the way, I do crowd work sometimes. I'm not a black belt in Jiu Jitsu. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, come on, man.
Starting point is 01:00:06 So, I realize when the guy gets up there, I'm like, oh, this guy's about to get fuckin' removed. Yeah. Violently off stage. And then I'm like, oh shit, there's no bouncers here anymore. So I was like, and this guy was in Williams' face. I don't think Williams saw that this guy was like,
Starting point is 01:00:23 he was gonna hit him, he was gonna do something. Yeah. Young guy, too. Much younger than William, for sure that this guy was like, he was gonna hit him, he was gonna do something. Young guy too. Much younger than William for sure. And so I got up and I just got him, pushed him off stage and he was doing like, see you outside and I was like, yeah, I'll be out in a second, I was like, let's go, get out of here.
Starting point is 01:00:34 And then I get off stage and William gets back on the microphone and I'm like, looking at William from the back of the stage, going like, show's over though, dude, like that's, come on. That's a wrap. That's a wrap and he goes, well, you just saw over though, dude. Like, that's, come on. That's a wrap. That's a wrap. And he goes, well, you just saw him, everybody,
Starting point is 01:00:47 so how about one more time? Big Jay, I'm gonna go on stage. I mean, I think like five minutes, I was like, William, dude, this energy is fucking wacky. Yeah, yeah. There was a melee in here a second ago. And we got out of there, and what happened was, I posted on, or William posted a thing
Starting point is 01:01:04 the next day on Facebook, I think it was and he goes He's like well, he goes the comics she goes. I'm not telling other comics what to do I'm just letting you guys know that the comic strip remove me from their schedule for the rest of my book shows Because of something last night whatever and I wrote back I'm like dude that fucking sucks ago. Well It's not fully in solidarity to you necessarily I'm a problem with this it's not fully in solidarity but I go I said yesterday when I was there I go I think I'm laying off that placement I think I'm done at that place well that it's out of control yeah just wrote that on and then Richie Tinken or or a lot of people thought
Starting point is 01:01:42 was his wife his wifeannie, but somebody was coming on social media, it was Twitter I think, at the time and they're just going and it's like, it's like we don't want you to work there anymore anyway and they're just coming at me and it was like you, their argument was that I defended a guy calling a woman a c***. And they're going back and forth with that and They go, either way, it's not that.
Starting point is 01:02:06 They wrote the dumbest things. They wrote the dumbest things, yeah, that I didn't let William Stevenson. I think I wrote back, I'm like, I think I saved you from a lawsuit. I was like, that guy was going on stage to hurt William. And no one did anything. I was like, you should be thanking me.
Starting point is 01:02:22 This is f***ing crazy. And they're like, you shouldn't defend somebody who calls a woman a c***. And then he said the most ridiculous claim I've ever heard, and I remember some of the names, because Seinfeld, Ray Romano, Chris Rock, and I don't remember, there's like one or two more examples, he goes, those guys never have had to use the word on or off stage.
Starting point is 01:02:40 And I was like, that's a ridiculous claim to make. Even for Jerry Seinfeld, I bet it's come out of his mouth I'm like, but this is a moot point and then on and on they're shitting on me And this is back and forth that I was almost having fun with it appointing some I guess fuck this place Yeah, and then I just thought about the thing that I used to talk about all the times before podcasts were everywhere Oh, but I used to always think it was so funny that well before it was an issue that they have, Richie Tink and the owner
Starting point is 01:03:09 was Eddie Murphy's manager forever. Yeah. And they'll tell you about it too. If you were there. In his golden years and photos and gold albums. Yeah. And they have two Eddie Murphy albums up. And I'm typing this on the thing, I go, you have two Eddie Murphy albums up and I'm typing this on the thing I go you have
Starting point is 01:03:26 two Eddie Murphy albums up one with a track that says and the second one says revisited I go now are we worried about pissing off gay people or only and then they you'd see it like systematically their tweets just they took down the entire No! And then I just went to work there again. You won! And then Richie died. But that was a bummer, I said that's a bummer that place. That place would kind of like have shitty stuff happen because that's like an emotional one for me in the sense that I said my daughter was like, you know, my daughter's baby shower
Starting point is 01:03:59 was there because all my ex-wife's friends were the staff there that worked there forever. Wow. I had that worked there forever. Wow. I had great nights there too. I mean, I had a similar, not to your level, but I remember No Security. I'm on late at night, there's seven dudes who are just heckling me nonstop, and they're big dudes and they're like,
Starting point is 01:04:14 we're gonna fuck you up after the show. And I was like, you very well may. There's seven of you and it's just me. No one's watching my back. No one's watching my back. And then I somehow got away from them, but I complained to one of the bartenders and he was like, it's not my job to be in there. my back. And then I somehow got away from them, but I complained to one of the bartenders
Starting point is 01:04:26 and he was like, it's not my job to be in there. I'm like, yeah, but someone should be here. Somebody should be there, yeah. Steve Byrne got the, I had to jump on stage for that one too and the guy, Steve Byrne, it was funny. It was just like too inflammatory and young Steve Byrne was a hothead. Oh really?
Starting point is 01:04:43 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I guess grew up playing hockey, not afraid to throw down. He would jump into it, for sure. Interesting. Which was impressive to a degree, but how fast he would get there is also like, hey, stage temperament, man, you gotta like,
Starting point is 01:04:57 which this is not like him at all now. I mean, he's like a father and whatever, but we were like in our 20s still here. And he was a real hothead. And at the comic strip, I was next also. And I'm watching this happen. In front of there's a table of Puerto Rican dudes and girls who are not enjoying him maybe.
Starting point is 01:05:17 I don't even know if they, he was doing well in the room I think. They were just being heckled or something like that. And he started talking to them like, hey guys, shut the fuck up. You know, it was like not so much funny, but like, hey, it's enough. And he was like, why don't you leave?
Starting point is 01:05:30 Why don't you fucking leave? And he kept calling them O-Town. And then, he kept calling them O-Town. And the girls were like, fuck you, you blah, blah, blah. And the girls were doing most of the jawing, quite honestly. And then one of the guys, when he said something to the girl, the girl threw one of the table menus he said something to the girl the girl
Starting point is 01:05:45 through one of the table menus you know little stand yes like just at the stage didn't hit him or hurt him right but it's just like still the action though when it's happens to you're like yo dude you're very vulnerable on stage I'll get you know irate that you're like hey I know you just lobbed something but like you're letting me know that you're willing to throw something at the stage like what's the next thing and so uh, you know, he's like, get the fuck out, and they're kicking them out, and they're leaving. They're walking out.
Starting point is 01:06:11 And some girl goes, you're just mad because you couldn't take, you know, you can give it, but you can't take it or something, and Steve just goes, shut the fuck up. And you see this girl look at her guy with like a, what are you gonna do? You better do something. It's like you're gonna have to answer to me all night. And the guy just without even words, almost reluctantly,
Starting point is 01:06:30 just in one motion running to the stage, scoops up a chair, and swings it over his head, and I go, I'm only able to go up behind Steve, the bouncer, there was a bouncer this time, Greg, who really wasn't, he was more of a bartender. No, no, that's not a bouncer. Not Greg, not Greg the manager, Greg the bartender guy, who was, you know, he was fine.
Starting point is 01:06:53 But he wasn't really a bouncer, but he goes up and gets the other guy, but it's too late, the chair had come over and split Steve's leg. What? And I grabbed Steve, which by the way, a lesson learned that I'll never do again, it was inconsequential in this point
Starting point is 01:07:05 But I did the wrong move in a fight if you're stopping a fight in one person's only your friend. You don't grab their Arms like always The other guy was grabbed already, but I was also stopping Steve and then realizing he's pouring fucking he watched too many NBA fight All right. Yeah, he was bleeding so bad and they had to go the hospital I know things he got stitches or stitches, staples in his head. Oh my God. I don't know who it was, but Steve used to get mad. It was pretty funny.
Starting point is 01:07:29 That explains his memes now. It's so funny how mad he would get because someone would just take like a rack of staples, you know, out of the staple, and like tape it to his head shut all the time. No one ever did it. No one ever knows who did it, but it would just, he would come in angrily, take it down,
Starting point is 01:07:46 and then somebody else would just like put it back up the next day. I can't believe William Stephenson stole his joke. Like, look at that cunt. Stephenson's like, oh, that's pretty good. That club, I guess it was run way back in the day from the, by the Westies or something like that. Oh, geez.
Starting point is 01:07:59 Or one of the owners was involved with that. But it's such a, the club, man, it's such a history of the weird things. They used to have a porter, the overnight Asian guy named Tin. I was just so into that place, and he was the sweetest guy, you know him for years, and you're like,
Starting point is 01:08:13 Tin, you know, and like, you know, he knew us, he was friendly always, and then you find out one day, it's like, where's Tin? It was, for the last 15 years, he's been siphoning booze out of the booze. That's why he was so friendly. Do you know how they found out?
Starting point is 01:08:29 It's such a great, their clientele started turning far more ethnic than it was in my younger years. And a guy ordered a Hennessy on the rocks. And they came out and they gave him a Hennessy and he gave it back and they go, he said this isn't Hennessy. So they pour him another one and then he walks out and he goes, and she was like,
Starting point is 01:08:52 I saw him pour it from the bottle. He goes, great, it's not Hennessy though. And he comes out and he puts it down. He goes, I'm gonna Hen, I drink it. I'm telling you, that's not Hennessy. And then he goes, sure, we'll pour you another one out of the bottle and they did. And then he went across the, we'll pour you another one out of the bottle, and they did. And then he went across the street to the liquor store
Starting point is 01:09:07 and came back, bought a fifth or whatever. And he poured it in a glass next to it, and it was that, and they found out that that guy was going and taking little bits to give to his family's restaurant. Oh my God. And he would fill everything with just rum and just put it back and no one really checked.
Starting point is 01:09:20 Wow. I guess if you're already drunk at a comedy club, you're not expecting like a state of the art cocktail to begin with, you know? Right. But if you're doing like a sipping kind of thing. Yeah, a liqueur. You assume no one's gonna care
Starting point is 01:09:32 because you're like rumming Coke anyway, you know, or jacking Coke and like, as long as there's booze in it, who gives a shit really? Geez, tin and tonic. That's crazy, but, oh, I forgot what I was gonna say. You threw me off with tin. Shit. Sorry, tin. Tin, sorry, tin. Tin.
Starting point is 01:09:47 Oh, Steve Byrne. Oh, sorry, now I can't stop thinking about Seinfeld saying, what's the deal with women? Where's... It's a body part and a bitch. All right. That's crazy. Boy, comedy feels like it was way more lawless,
Starting point is 01:10:03 you know, 15 years ago. It was like fighty and, you know, 15 years ago. It was like fighty and people stealing. I think camera phones are a big part of that. Yeah, sorry Kramer. I think being able to document shit changed a lot of shady business. I think so too. It also seems to encourage people though with the filming to like, let's make a moment. Of course, definitely that.
Starting point is 01:10:24 No one's afraid of being the asshole in a video. No. As long as it's out there. I know, it might even like sell tickets to be the asshole. Yeah, it's like the Hawk Two, which obviously, you know, whatever. Game and Wimped. But it's not even that she's famous
Starting point is 01:10:39 for this dumb thing for a minute. It's the acceptance of the fame. I know. Like when you go, it's like, well, clearly I got something that people wanna see, so let me, and it's just like, now it just made people laugh for a day. Right. Yeah, she literally was like,
Starting point is 01:10:52 and then a second later, like, is she gonna be the new Ellen? Yeah, right? Right, but she almost believes, like, I think as soon as the hock to it and goes, a few days into it, she's like, I think there's a path to me becoming the next Ellen. Yeah. Yeah. She does The Coin, path to me becoming the next Ellen. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:05 She does The Coin, and then she has her own podcast. Totally. And did The Coin, is that what did her in? The Coin, yeah, was fraud or something. She got in trouble. And Adam 22 got in trouble for that too. Oh really? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:11:18 Damn. You guys ever have him on? No, I've seen the video of his wife getting plowed. Several now. Oh jeez. Yeah. Several now. Oh, geez. Yeah. She likes him big and she likes him black. And you know what?
Starting point is 01:11:29 I have no problem with that. No. In my pornography, am I okay with that? Especially when it's another man's wife. That seems great. Yeah, that's true. It does add some evil to it. Also, because he's in such a world, Adam 22,
Starting point is 01:11:40 of like Wigger and black culture. Right. Like nobody in his world supported this at all. What is he known for? Big Dong. He was, he's definitely got a piece. Adam 22 was like a BMX guy or a dirt bike guy. He was an extreme sports guy.
Starting point is 01:11:56 And then he started a podcast bringing out like new like young underground hip hop stuff. So he got all these people the xxx And all these people when they were young and then people he was just breaking people And it just got huge and huge and then his wife Well, yeah, what's the deal with the plug and she started doing porn? Well, why does he like does he like guys plowing his wife? Well, that's a newer thing. They did porn the guy was brilliant I mean in this his sales pitch must be fantastic. He goes hey I Want to be with you and only you emotionally, but I want to fuck a lot of other girls
Starting point is 01:12:31 I don't want you to fuck other guys But but how about if we do it together and we'll make money off and on camera so they're for podcast That I lost point of podcast of the year to yeah at the avian Awards that I lost.0 podcast of the year to at the AVN awards. Plug talk is him and his chick sitting like this and talk to a porn star probably mindlessly for 30 grueling minutes I assume
Starting point is 01:12:55 and then he fucks his wife and the girl but they called lately for her to fuck somebody else and then she fucked that huge cock black guy and now she's done a few more Yikes, she goes by Lena the plug Lena. It's a Lana Lena. Is that weirder? Yes, yeah, but she he gets to bang other porn stars too. That's a deal. Okay got it But uh, he must had a good lawyer for this But his whole thing uh, his whole thing fell apart is apart. I guess the whole networks like going the pieces
Starting point is 01:13:27 You know today. I Just cry Matt. You're so concerned. I didn't realize you I think about the life at all, but the podcast falling apart why yeah the networks fall He has a video. It's like it's why it's going broke. I think it was just they hired a bunch of people They were trying to keep it going for probably too long. He probably doesn't care anymore, he's making a ton of money I'm sure off her porn. You don't picture that type of concept having like a season five. Right?
Starting point is 01:13:50 You know? Well no, not that. That podcast is going strong. Oh, okay. The one he does where he breaks the people and everyone fights, but I mean, it's good clip watching. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:00 I find all these things, because I watch all of the podcast breakdown ones. I said this is my first time being here, but I know the set so well because you guys have a great podcast for the podcast, Cringe and Comedy. Oh, they love that shit. Well, not even attacking you guys at all. It's a good show for them to go at whoever the guest is because they'll go, you can see
Starting point is 01:14:18 Sam right here loses complete interest. Really? They go, Sam was trying to wrap the show up right there and you can see he just got drug into it some more. They always love going at Bert. They always love going at Bert. So Bert's like, if you have Bert in your pocket, they're always gonna be like, oh.
Starting point is 01:14:31 Oh, we did recently. No, no, no, and it was great. You guys had a good time. I think three of them. But you can see it's like, Mark's over it, duh. Sam doesn't wanna talk about this conversation. They're bringing it up. They also have no idea what people's genuine relationships are and shit.
Starting point is 01:14:45 You know what I mean? Yeah, he goes, Burt embarrassed himself. That came out like an hour after the episode came out. These guys are fucking on it. Embarrasses himself is pretty funny. Embarrassing. Yeah, rock bottom. Right there.
Starting point is 01:14:56 Don't give him attention. I already watched it. Cause I don't want them to shimmy or guess. I'm 18 minutes into it. Oh, but I said this too. I did this when I was on Burt's show too though. I'm like, these people are fans. Of course.
Starting point is 01:15:09 It's Sports Center. Right. You never felt bad when you'd watch Sports Center all morning and they were going like, how is this guy getting a max contract with that sloppy gross play? And you were like, I know, you're right, I paid. Right, right. So that's what they are to us. And no one else.
Starting point is 01:15:26 They're still consuming all of our shit. Well we don't have a TMZ or anything, so this is where people get their drama, their comedy drama. Some people go, like listen, like anything, people go too far and there's people who are assholes about it, but I mean, most of them are like a fan breaking down.
Starting point is 01:15:41 Cause even the ones that go at Burt, like one of the guys who goes at Burt a lot, is pretty like even keeled in the whole thing. And he'll be like, I've been starting to like Burt's things a little more lately. He's like, he's getting into the, you know, it's like they just, they don't mean anything. But they're just making content.
Starting point is 01:15:54 Yeah, I mean, I have shit on me. I think most of them don't mean harm. I, yeah, I guess. I think most, I think most. We're so sensitive. I think they forget that. That we like watch everything and no one talks about us. We have to like get better at that.
Starting point is 01:16:06 Right. We have to dish it and take it. I guess so. It comes to a point where you start moving up and first of all, internally, you stop taking it because you're moving up the ranks so you're the disher only, do you know what I mean? And the hope is that you get busy enough to not look.
Starting point is 01:16:22 You don't have a person higher up than you, kinda being like shut up with your shirt, and you don't act, and you don't like that stuff anymore. You know what I mean? And we still need some of that. That's a good point, that's a good point. It's humbling and evening out of the thing. It can't just be everybody doing your thing together.
Starting point is 01:16:34 But it's better when it comes from a friend than it comes from a place of love, than just a stranger who's like fuck you. Yeah, and they put editing time, and they put clips together. It's like, what's it taking, 10 days? But you see comics like didn't come up with a comedian friend group and they and they do shit sometimes I'm like, oh you need a friend to tell you not to do that Oh, you know, so you need your comedy friends to keep it real. Have you ever seen Soder do Elvis as Chappelle?
Starting point is 01:16:59 No, oh my god. It's like fucking tranny's. Thank you I can't recreate it. he can do the voices. Get him to do that if you ever get alone with him in a green room, it's pretty great. Well I just said the rape thing, I saw Sam look over the thing and all I'm thinking about is the podcast. He's gonna go, Sam.
Starting point is 01:17:16 No, because we have another guest coming, that's why I looked. Sam did not. It's coming, it's coming. No, we should wrap this, because we have another guest coming. You got to... Oh plug.
Starting point is 01:17:27 May them on YouTube. You'll see Jay... The second part of May is out right now. There's a lot of crowd work out there. Jay is great at it. Really. Oh, thank you. One of the OGs.
Starting point is 01:17:35 Thank you guys. You guys are two of the best, so I appreciate you saying that, man. Thanks for having me. I'd love to come do it again sometime. Sorry I was late. Listen to Legion of Skanks, listen to... Bonfire. Bonfire. Story Wars. Story Wars. Geez, you got a lot of stuff on the fires. It never late. Listen to Legion of Skanks, listen to the dude. Bonfire. Bonfire. Story Wars.
Starting point is 01:17:45 Story Wars, geez, you got a lot of stuff on the fires. It never ends. It really does. It never ends. Can I say, can I ask you guys your opinion on something real quick? Please. I just got my first, as long as I've been doing stuff,
Starting point is 01:17:56 my first 100,000 subscribers thing. Mm-hmm. Didn't you think it was gonna be bigger and heavier and stuff like that? Oh, yeah. The box that came and I was like, no, isn't this thing like a gold record like a gold touch to that? Oh, it's flimsy Oh, yeah, I never touched it either
Starting point is 01:18:12 It's flimsy It used to be I think also like a bubble that came out. Oh, yeah, like it was like tactile Well, this used to be a big deal. But now like my grandma has one They give it about out now. Just her unboxing present She died Different box now, but yeah Thank you guys it's June 6 at Levittown. Yes indeed. You're in a mafer governor's baby And then American Comedy Company, I love it. San Diego's the best. It's a great club, man. Comedy Zone Charlotte's probably gonna need a little love
Starting point is 01:18:46 to get out there. Liberty Funny Bone, yeah, I'm not sure if I'm putting it all the way in the back there. Let's fill that up. The Fig Room. Tacoma's fun. That's a great club, great town. And then Stress Factory.
Starting point is 01:18:55 Always an excuse to kick it with old Vinnie Brand. Yeah, phone on speak. The Craig Glazer of the East Coast. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. The Bobby Jules of Jersey. Yeah, ha ha ha ha ha.'re always have their name on the on the club sign always I said Vinnie Brand if you told me that was a stage name I'd believe you because that guy's big in the brand
Starting point is 01:19:15 dress factory on Vinnie Brand cul-de-sac right outside of Vinnie Brand Boulevard I love that room though man it's like my favorite pumping it's nothing like there oh I'm going to the UK and Reykjavik. I'm in London, Cardiff, Bristol, Birmingham, Glasgow, Belfast, then back to upstate New York just to get humbled again. Rochester, Albany, Portchester, Burlington, Wisconsin, Eugene, San Jose, May 5th in Portland. That's me sick. Yeah, Portland, I had a late show on a Monday, so please don't fucking make me regret it. That's gonna be tough.
Starting point is 01:19:49 Seattle, Vancouver, Boise, Idaho, Denver, and then we just added Red Bank, New Jersey, Boston, the Wilbur in August, and we just added, yeah, Earl of Guam, and then we just added, yeah, the New York City, the New York City, and then we just added, yeah, the New York City, the New York City, and then we just added, Vancouver, Boise, Idaho, Denver, and then we just added Red Bank, New Jersey,
Starting point is 01:20:07 Boston, the Wilbur in August, and we just added Irvine, keep going, Oklahoma City, Vegas September 19th, and then Rochester, New York, I love that club, and then go to the bottom, the big ones are, yeah, October 4th, Chicago Theater, please come out, and then Salt Lake, I'm coming back to Salt Lake and come back to Salt Lake and then In November and then the big one December 4th, Carnegie
Starting point is 01:20:30 Please come out of my city kit. It means a lot to me Wow, you got some time, but that's exciting. Yeah, I'll be fun. It's a milestone I get some bodega cat folks and praise Allah legion of skanks. They them Bonfire story wars. We'll see you all in hell. Sunday's the day for my next offender, a bit of Piva rec you know the future's close. I've had a little too much bourbon, and Norman's talking shit about the fucking Pope, and I get down in the same way. Up on the roof like a cop's coming, and naked Samuel is feeling dangerous. I'm gonna get my ass kicked, I'm gonna get my ass kicked, I'm gonna get my ass kicked,
Starting point is 01:20:49 I'm gonna get my ass kicked, I'm gonna get my ass kicked, I'm gonna get my ass kicked, I'm gonna get my ass kicked, I'm gonna get my ass kicked, I'm gonna get my ass kicked, I'm gonna get my ass kicked, I'm gonna get my ass kicked, I'm gonna get my ass kicked, I'm gonna get my ass kicked, I'm gonna get my ass kicked, I'm gonna get my ass kicked, I'm gonna get my ass kicked, I'm gonna get my ass kicked, I'm gonna get my ass kicked, I'm gonna get my ass kicked, I'm gonna get my ass kicked, I'm gonna get my ass kicked, I'm gonna get my ass kicked, I'm gonna get my ass kicked, I'm gonna get my ass kicked, I'm gonna get my ass kicked, I'm gonna get my ass kicked, I'm gonna get my ass kicked,
Starting point is 01:20:57 I'm gonna get my ass kicked, I'm gonna get my ass kicked, I'm gonna get my ass kicked, I'm gonna get my ass kicked, I'm gonna get my ass kicked, I'm gonna get my ass kicked, I'm gonna get my ass kicked, I'm gonna get my ass kicked, I'm gonna get my ass kicked, I'm gonna get my ass kicked, I'm gonna get my ass kicked, I'm gonna get my ass kicked, I'm gonna And I get down in the same way Up on the roof like a cop's coming And naked Samuel is feeling dangerous I'm out to lunch here in New Orleans This woman doesn't look like I remember her And I get down in the same way We might be true

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.