We Might Be Drunk - Gary Vaynerchuk (Gary Vee) - Sam Morril & Mark Normand - We Might Be Drunk Podcast

Episode Date: March 9, 2026

Gary Vaynerchuk (Gary Vee) stops by and turns the pod into a full-on masterclass in comedy, marketing, and the modern internet. Mark and Sam start by talking road gigs, bombing in Oklahoma, and the misery of 5 a.m. flights after three-show Saturdays before diving into movies, Robert Duvall, and the strange beauty standards of old Hollywood leading men. Gary jumps in with a breakdown of how comedians should be using social media, why clipping up specials is the real marketing engine now, and how algorithms can actually help shape material. The guys debate whether posting jokes online ruins stand-up or makes it better, and Gary explains why testing material with the internet might be more powerful than playing small clubs for weeks. They also get into the future of content, live streaming, TikTok strategy, selling products during comedy streams, and why “overexposure” might be a myth in the modern media world. Along the way there’s Knicks playoff talk, immigrant upbringing stories, comedy process talk, and plenty of classic Mark and Sam chaos. Go Bills. Sponsored by: Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial and start selling today at https://shopify.com/drunk Go to https://buyraycon.com/mightbedrunkOPEN to get 20% off Subscribe to We Might Be Drunk: https://bit.ly/SubscribeToWMBD Merch: https://wemightbedrunkpod.com/ Clips Channel: https://bit.ly/WMBDClips Sam Morril: https://punchup.live/sammorril/tickets Mark Normand: https://punchup.live/marknormand/tickets Produced by Gotham Production Studios: https://www.gothamproductionstudios.com Producer: Matt Peters Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Trying to wake up here. Yeah. How you doing, man? Good, good. I made a mistake. I had a 5 a.m. flight out of Tulsa. Did you, Kane's Ballroom? No, I did the new comedy club.

Oh, shit. It's good. It's like a bark club, like Spokane. Yeah, yeah. It's the same people. Same people, yeah. Tulsa's cool, man. Tulsa's cool.

They call the Austin of Oklahoma. Yeah. A lot of bars. I'm not a lot of competition in Oklahoma. No, no, that's true. Although Oklahoma City is pretty cool. Oh, yeah. I've had a good time there.

My opening line was, I've never been here. I've been to OKC. I bombed there, not as much as the last guy. And they would go, boo. I think my opener in OKC was, you guys weren't part of the Confederacy, but you would have been. They weren't? No, they weren't around, I don't think. Oh, yeah, good point.

Very Native American-y state, Oklahoma. Yeah, oh, yeah. And Black Wall Street. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So, didn't mean to bring it down. Tulsa?

Tulsa, yeah. So Tulsa, you know, you just want to, it's like not a lot of direct flight. So I got the first one out, out of NOM. And so then you do three shows Saturday. You don't get to bed until two. You got to wake up at four. You got to stop that three show Saturday shit. You're getting old for that.

I'm getting old. I should take my own advice, but you should stop. Well, that's why I'm all stuffed up, because then you land in New York and you're like, it's 11 a.m. What am I do out here too early? showed up, my wife was like, huh? What do you do it here? She just hands me the baby.

Come home, you give your baby COVID. I got the third show though, baby. Yeah, third show her the check. She doesn't care. And then, yeah, then you're just on with the baby all day. Then it was, I missed Valentine's Day, so I did a big Valentine's dinner with drinks. We went to Café Zaffrey, which is a nice little spot if you want to take a date out. Yeah?

Yeah, she dressed in the night. Look at this place. It's gorgeous. Right by Union Square. Oh, look at that. That is fancy. It's right in the heart of Manhattan. Can I run a joke by you?

Speaking of a date I went on. Went on a date with a 25-year-old. We go back to my apartment. She's going through it. You know, I got a lot of DVDs. She's going through them all. She goes, I've never seen the Godfather. And I was like, you got to see the Godfather.

And I was like, wait, is this grooming? That could be something, right? That's great. Caught me off guard completely. Fucking Duval, dude. RIP. RIP to Godfather. Yeah, I guess this is a, this might be coming out.

out later. We had to backlog some of these because of our schedules. But, man, Robert Duvall, fucking legend. I'd say top five actor, American actors. He's up there for sure. I mean, like the range. Oh, yeah. Dude, network.

Network. The most prescient movie. I mean, that's like, that could have been made like yesterday and you would have been like, how the fuck. It's true. Just called streamer, you know, update it. Yeah. Cable news.

Yeah. Just poison. Yeah, podcast. Dude, that movie. So crazy thing about, so network. So network, William Holden, awesome in that movie. By the way, dies. You know he has one of the all-time drunk deaths of all time.

He's an alcoholic. William Holden, if you don't know, like Sunset Boulevard, awesome actor. He is such a fall-down drunk that he just slips in his apartment, hits his head on the side of a table and bleeds out. Wow. Like 61 or something, or 62, not that old. Wow. And then Peter Finch, who's in this movie as well, dies. He was the first actor to win an award posthumously.

So the pre-heath ledger Wow, look at that Yeah, I'm mad as hell And I'm not gonna take it anymore I'm not gonna take it anymore I'm not gonna take it anymore I'm gonna take it anymore I'm gonna watch

I just watch Burt text me to watch this movie called the outfit from the 70s And Duval and Burr's like I love it You would never have a bald guy As a lead man anymore like this Ain't that the truth Definitely not horseshoe bald No

You could be like the rock ball Or Statham Yeah Well I'm watching I'm watching old LA Gould movie I'm like not a lot of heartthrobs with back hair anymore Oh, good point You don't see that shit anymore

That's true How about Michael Cain and Alfie? Oh my God He looks like a melted candle When he takes his shirt off It's horrific But he was a hunk back then He was a hunk

But do the outfit Badass movie Also a badass book It's Donald Westlake under his pen name Richard Stark Awesome series of books They're all fucking

Did like The Hunter Which was a movie With Lee Marvin Point Blank Uh huh And then it was remade With Mel Gibson Payback Oh I love payback

It's a fun movie Yeah I had that on VUU I mean, that's ridiculous. Look at this guy, smooth as a seal. Not an inch of definition. He looks like he's like seven years old. Yes, exactly.

Or Kim Jong-un, same body. Look at that guy with the gun and everything. He's never done a curl in his life. No, no. He likes to stick so much he signed it. That's not, I mean. Oh, God. Look at that.

I mean, he looks like a trans woman. Fucking Duval, man. Yeah, so Duval, you know, Apocalypse now, Napalm in the morning. Oh, shit, yeah. But there's a scene in the gun. Godfather, I was going down a deep dive where they're all at dinner and they all get up at some point during the dinner and then it hit me. They're all leaving in the order they die. Oh, no.

Yeah. So it's a fun, fun little Easter egg or whatever you want to call it. Damn. Yeah, little nuggets like that. Pacino's just hanging on at that table. Yeah, exactly. Such a great movie. What was the courtroom movie he was in?

The judge? Was it the judge? Was that it? That was one with Downey Jr. Oh, yeah. That was later. I don't know. Maybe I'm thinking of Paul Newman

and the verdict. The verdict. That's a fucking banged, dude. Sydney Lumet. The judge, you're right. Sydney Lumet, network in the verdict. Yeah, look at that.

Fucking great movie. Paul Newman's best performance, in my opinion. Hey, there you go. Big fan. But yeah, man, we had fun of that Knicks game the other night. Oh, that was a good time. We're at the game.

Josh Hart dabs up Chris, Chrissy D, daps up me, and he turns around, then he turns back around, he goes, oh shit, Mark, Mark, I see you, and then he daps up Mark too. I'll take it I see you Wow It was a cool moment

It was pretty And then as Tyler Colick Nick's point guard's Jogging by Just pointed at Norman Nice moment It was a weird point But I'll take it

Yeah It was like a Like you piece of shit Yeah You fucked my wife Yeah You a Jonas brother I'm not sure

If you told the story About you going to go see You went to MSG To go see Somebody Shane Oh Shane And what something

Has in that age Oh I didn't tell you this You met, oh, you did tell me this the other day. Yeah. I know, yeah, yeah, that's funny as hell, though. He got me, I asked Shane to get me backstage. I wanted to hang out, and he's like, I got you, man. He got me tickets, like hard seat tickets.

So I showed up, and they're like, here you go, sir, with an envelope. And I was like, thank you. And I walked in, the guy's like, whoa, whoa, where you going? You're down here. And I was like, what the hell? So I'm texting Shane. He's busy. So I'm like, fuck, I'm just making a run for the backstage.

So I make a run for it, and like five guys are stopping me, you know, security guys. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And I'm like, I'm a comedian. Everybody's a comedian. Shut up. And then one guy goes, are you Samarreal? And I go, yeah.

And he goes, get back there. So I got in thanks to you. That's the only place. I'll give you a boost. His next territory. Yeah, yeah. That synagogue maybe. But yeah.

I got in. Thank God. Damn it, dude. Yeah. You feel like a plebe. I'm like, no, no, I swear. I've performed here. And they're like, shut up.

Everybody says that. So you got me in. The show is awesome. The show is awesome. It's like Soder and David Tell and Sal Volcano and all the Oz. The Mentalist was there. That hot lady, the gymnast from LSU, Livy Dunn. Oh, shit.

She was there with her boyfriend who looks just like Shane. Yeah, Paul Skeens. Yes, the baseball player. That guy's a stud, man. Yeah. He's like a hotter Shane, which is strange. But they were all back there. It was just a great.

time just doing the garden is uh had to get my high five yeah i should have fucking pulled up dude i think it was on the road i yeah i should have wish i went to that look at that hatchie machi yosa she is tiny or she just huge both yeah that makes sense gymnasts they're always tiny oh yeah you don't mean a lot of big gymnasts yeah that's true it's true that's a sumo i guess but yeah uh so tulsus was great but now i'm all i'm all flemie i was in stanford kansas Connecticut all weekend, just running the hour at the club. Yeah. Great club, by the way, the New York Comedy Club.

It's awesome. So one of my favorite basketball analyst comes out, Zach Lowe, with the Low Post, the best basketball podcast. He's great. This is a peeve. It's a real comedy-specific peeve. They sit him right up front. Oh, that's a look at him and his life the whole set.

I hate that shit. Luckily, they were laughing. I was like, here's a real tester because I have a WMBA joke. Let's see if he laughs. I'll like, all right, I got the laugh on that one. Oh, nice. But it is annoying that you're like, did he like that one? What am I doing with him?

I know. And he's an analyst. So he's literally analyzing you. Morel had an off night. I've seen him play better. Yeah, he probably injured. That's a great little club, man. Great club.

Anthony DeVito, shout out. His new shit is killer. Did he do the bit about Gen Z and social media and getting called out? He went viral. He's like, I went viral in the bad way. Yeah. Everybody said I look like Jeffrey Epstein. Yeah, it's a great one.

That's a great bit. It's like 10 minutes long. Yeah, he's got so much good shit. He's got all this stuff about his dad being in the mob. He's on an old episode. He talks all about it. Amazing old ep if you haven't heard it. Old Ep, old studio.

Great comic. But I want to say with Robert Duval, Norm MacDonald, here's my wreck. He did an interview with Robert Duvall. So those two together is like crazy. And he opens up. He's like, I just want to say you're probably the top five actors in America, all this shit. And he gets some good moments out of Duval. Fuck.

Great interview. Yeah, I've never seen The Apostle. I heard that's an amazing movie. He directed it. Didn't he win the Academy Award for that? He was nominated. But he directed it too. Amazing.

I never seen it. Crazy run of so many. But that movie, the outfit I said earlier that Burr told me to watch. It's like an old throwback, badass kind of. I love it. That's right up my anal. Also, Jesse Jackson died. All right, B.

I met him once. What? Yeah. Wow. Front row at your show? Front row, yeah. Did not laugh. Ah.

But, you know, I just saw him in, like, it was, that's a fucking Knicks game, like, many years ago. Wow. And he was just in the room and we both, like, locked eyes. And it was that rude moment where I was like, I just didn't know what to do. Yeah, yeah. You just see him, you're like, it's fucking Jesse Jackson. Just give him one of these. I'm with you.

I was like, yo, yo, brother. He just came over to me and just walked over. He probably just used to getting recognized. We just walked over and shook my hand. Whoa. Kind of a cool moment. Could have use that photo during BLM. I'm a good one, guys.

I got to me and Jesse hanging out at the Knicks. By the way, Jesse Jackson was standing this to MLK when he was murdered. Wow. That's a piece of history right there. How about that? Geez. Man. Way to bring the podcast.

Black woman. Black history month, everybody. Oh, wow, look at that. Damn, yeah, he's seen some shit. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, so good, good to be back. I got a million P's. We got a fun guest, but...

Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. Yeah, a lot of people dying. Everyone's dying. Vanderbeek. Can we talk about it? The other one? No. I mean, Vanderbeek did.

You know what's crazy? You rewatch Varsity Blues. Paul Walker and James Vanderbeek. Oh. Fucking both dead. Oh, that's what I said. The fat guy's still alive. Oh, yeah, we did talk about this.

We talked about it at the lunch. At the diner. Oh, okay. Is the fat guy alive? All right, all right, good. Because if he was still alive. Good. Well, just the world would be off kilter.

No bud is his life's unpredictable, buddy. Yeah, that's true. Just means stop's going to. outlive us. He probably will. He probably will. Yeah. Oh, yeah, long dead, I hear.

Okay. He's dead? Yeah, fact, Billy Bob. Oh, fuck. When did he die? That's fine. Oh, wow.

So he beat Paul Walker. Is it great? You win if you die? Well, you know what I mean? He outlived Paul Walker. Oh, okay. No, I don't think so. Is he alive?

Ron Lester. R-I-P. He looked at the character. The character's not dead. Okay. He got skinny. Oh, he got thin. Yeah.

Hey, look at that. Well, he still got the fat cheeks. Wait, so is he or not dead? He's now dead. But he got thin and then died? Yeah. That's fucking unfair. Do we know why?

How or how? I'll do his wiki here. Let's get the wryxia. Yeah. Hospitalized issues due to his liver and kidneys. Interesting. That could be drastic weight loss. Yeah, could be.

Yeah. Damn. That sucks. How about that? All right, well, a varsity blues. John Voight's still kicking. Damn. Who would have bet on him?

Yeah. Outlive everybody. I know. The evil coach won. Angelina Jolie. That's a fun movie, dude. I dug that movie. Great movie.

Love that movie. I love a good sports. A good sports, young, like young hungry kids. Fucking badass. Yeah. When they were at that house party and they steal the cop car. It's so fun. Scott Con, dude.

Scott Conn. Holy shit. Con. Twitter. He's a handsome guy that Scott Conn. I guess his dad was hot too. Oh, yeah. Scott Kahn.

Oceans 11? Yeah, and Casey Affleck? It's all nepotism, baby. I know, it really is. Even like with, you hear, Sophia Coppola, obviously is Copla's daughter. Yeah. But then Nicholas Cage is Copla's cousin. Or nephew, nephew.

Crazy. Nicholas Copeland. Yeah. Changes to Cage. Thought we wouldn't notice. Yeah, we caught you. Dude, speaking of Sophia. Fia Copeland. We watched Losson Translation.

Fucking great. Great movie. The first time I've seen it as a comic, the first time I saw it was when it came out. So, you know. What's that? 2010? No, it's going to be like 2003. Oh, three, it says.

Yeah. So, dude, that hits different as a comic. That, like, isolation just living in a hotel. Totally. You're like, oh, shit. I've definitely overspilled the strangers and vice versa because you're just like, I can tell them anything. Yeah.

Yeah, so true. And they tweet about it. You're like, fuck, I shouldn't have said that. I shouldn't have said that What's the Age of Consent? I shouldn't have said that out loud Different in every state You might as well ask

You never know Guy who knows every state No it's okay here It's okay to make Well what is Mississippi It's gotta be like I think it's 14 Wow

I'm pretty sure I shouldn't know this Chalekuse is hoping it's 14 What's here we got Good place to go to college Jesus I'm just saying Because if you bang a 17 year old

It's like a cougar 16 That's fucking That is a child, dude. That is fucking insane. That is fucking insane. I think it went up. I think it used to be lower.

Really? Yeah, they're getting pretty progressive over there. You know what I would do? One guy at the town hall meeting, like, we have to keep it. Yeah, there's always that guy. I will say, if I was Bill Gates or Bill Clinton, I would try to change Epstein's island, age of consent. Oh.

Because you have, you have poll in the government. I'm guessing the age of consent was still fucking, I don't think it was that. Is it, is it American land? No. No. Okay. My friend was just on vacation there and, like, near there. And he was like, I'm three and a half miles away from it.

I'm like, that's weird. Oh, I've seen it. How do you pitch that shit to your fucking wife? We got a great deal. I went on a booze cruise. I went to St. John with the wife on a little romantic vacate. We did a booze cruise and I'm like, oh, wow. We were like right in front of it.

Beautiful island. Yeah, I'm sure. There's a bunch of girls waving us in. I was like, ah, we're good. Come on, honey for the story. To tag your point, I think the problem with Epstein was location. Yes. If he set that island up in Mississippi, he's in the clear.

Well, there must have been younger than 16 with Epstein, right? Probably. Probably. I would guess. I didn't read the files, but it seems bad. Yeah, yeah. Too long. They're very long.

The files. Someone's doing the work for us. And they're like, look at this shit. We're like, ah, what the fuck. Yeah, right. Exactly. That's exactly what happens. But that's, I mean,

I don't get the redacting. Why are we redacting? Like, aren't they criminals? I get redacting the women. Redact the victims. Why are we redacting the fucking people? Yeah. Because the government's fucking protecting them.

I guess so. No. What's up? Hey, our guest is here. Gary Vee, everybody. Yeah. Step right in. It's like an orgy.

We're on his podcast, too. Look at this shit. Are we literally on? Yeah, we're on. I don't understand the disrespect of having a Bill's fan greet me. I'm very upset about it. Oh, you're a Jets nut.

I'm a diehard. See, I'm a Giants fan, so I kind of pull for the bills a little bit. Yeah. You don't even care. I was rooting for them in the playoffs. I'm sure. Well, you beat them in one of the most important Super Bowls of all time. Yeah, you're a diehard Jets guy.

Crazy. I feel bad for you, dude. Hey, what's up? Hey, that was weird. I hope you caught that. Go Jets. It's a tough life. You know, we got nine cameras here.

You didn't need to bring one. By the way, our guest is Gary Vee. Oh, hey. Sorry, we didn't even intro to you. I like the losing. I like the process. I'm serious. I grew up a huge Yankees.

Yeah, I grew up a huge Yankee fan and a huge Rangers fan. Yeah. So you got a taste. And after they won, like, it was, I stopped caring. Yeah. Don't you think we should give them to Jersey? Just give the Jets to Jersey because we got the Giants. Well, no, he doesn't want that.

He's a fan. I'm a Jersey boy. But you're from Jersey. Yeah, I'll be thrilled with the Jets. And the stadium's in Jersey anyway. The Giants and Jets are. New Jersey football teams. They play and practice. That's what I'm saying. The only technically New York team

is the bills, but like we all know this. I mean, everybody at home, we all know this. Buffalo is dramatically more Canada than it is New York. This is New York City. This is very controversial. I didn't know we had an immigrant running our podcast. Please say sorry. I think we know this though, right? Like, I never thought. I love when the Buffalo fans are like, we're the New York and like the world views New York as not New York state, they view it as New York City. And I love my Canadian

brothers and sisters. And I actually you know what, I hate the bills, but like I love the people of Buffalo. Like it's a gritty. Great sound. That's just real talk. But like with all due respect to my Buffalo brothers and sisters, you're dramatically more Canada than you are New York City. But by that logic, the Chargers

are Mexico. Yes, I'm into that. Oh, okay. I'm fine with that. I'm fine with that. I'm fine with that. I mean, it's going to be shorter players, cockfight during halftime. I'll take a cockfight. That'd be good NFL. That's the way they should do it.

Yeah, Bad Bunny did miss out on the cockfighting. It was all supposed to be Puerto Rican culture. By the way, the bad bunny content that's being made that translates to what he said on social right now is dominating. I love to kind of just follow what is happening in pop culture. Sure. Just the people that were like, he's such an amazing performer. But I think it's funny that now a lot of people realize what the words translate to. Oh, let's hear it.

I don't know any of them. It's basically like I just, like, it's actually very mellow, but it's like, I have so many girlfriends, I have so many girlfriends. I told my auntie that I have a lot of girlfriends. What do I do with all these girlfriends? It's pretty basic. Yeah.

And it's been funny to watch people get into it. I love like, my mom is super liberal, so she has to be like, I love Bad Bunny. He's so great. I'm like, you don't know one fucking song. I think he's saying, live in La Vita Loca, shut up. Yeah. We've definitely gotten sports oriented in politics.

Like blind. The Jets can't. I hate it. Like, I loved it when it was life was just sports that way. Yes. I love sports where like, no matter. Here it is. In English.

It's not real. It's truly because I never ever, not even for a moment. This is a good person when they did Hitler and dub. And you should too. You really should also believe in your soul. You have to work so much more than you like to. Believe me when I say this. Trust me.

Tell me. Tell me. Tell me. Do what you wanted to do. It's like you watch Parasite dubbed. Right. Keep going. This is too good. Keep going. Hey, hey, hey. Fourth of July was the fourth of July. Bronx, no, what's up?

This is incredible. Because you understand. By the way, this is all of our futures. But by the way, this is all of our future. What, don't? The Super Bowl? No, no. We'll play the halftime show, dude. What? You guys are going to enjoy your content in you speaking Mandarin more than English.

Great, more fans. Yeah, you guys are about to explode. You know this, right? No. I see a huge future for you guys. This is his thing. He's really positive. No, no, I am positive. I love it.

But I actually believe this. And he kind of looks like if we fucked each other. Which is a huge compliment because I find you guys very attractive. Hey, you too. Real talk. This is the future for all content creators. Like, we're going into a wild era in the next 24-36 months. A lot of, you know, I'm calling it the Hasselhoff AI rule.

You know how Hasselhoff was huge in Germany. Yeah. Right. You guys are probably going to explode in South Korea, is my personal guess. My dick is huge in Korea. Huge. Yeah. By the way, he means explode.

I think we're really going to explode in North Korea. He's not going to like our comedy. If his dick's huge in South Korea, it's going to explode in South Korea too. So, like, I think that a lot of us that produce content are going to find ourselves building fan bases in places we never could have imagined. Yes. Because all of our content will be done in AI in a manner where it's not subtitles. It's not bad dub like we see on Netflix.

It will be perfectly AI matched. And right now, in fact, in the meta of it all, right now we are talking Portuguese and Korean and Mandarin and Russian. And I don't know, like back to the way you guys look, like Eastern European. Like, I think you could explode in Poland, I think is a good one for you guys. Well, he's a Russian descent. Yeah, I know. My ancestors exploded in Poland during World War II.

I'm going to Poland, I think, in September. I'm never been. I'm really pumped to go. For like family reasons or business reasons? No, just for gigs. I mean, we already tour that part of the world. I mean, have you gone anywhere where you're like, oh, I did not know people like me this much

in this part of the world? The first one was I did a speech in Kuwait, like a thousand years ago. Like 2007, when I was plenty small in America, let alone thinking that someone would know me in Kuwait, but for some reason one of my YouTube videos went viral in Kuwait and I spoke there. I also curse like a true stand-up comic on stage as a business talker,

So, like, everyone scared me before I went there, like, you're going to fucking curse in Kuwait and they're going to put you in jail for 40 years. There's all this propaganda. But that was the first time I was like, wow, like, you know, I always believed in what. The saddest reason to go to prison is just like, you've got to fucking believe in yourself, man. Like, sorry. You're going away forever. By the way, the fucking OG's in your guy's game back of the day that happened in America, let alone. Yeah, Lenny Bruce, right?

Oh, yeah, the real cancel. Like, you know, like jail time. I mean, just like, really? Like, it's crazy. The evolution. No, this is a new. Standup is pretty new. That's the thing.

You know, comedy's been around forever, but stand-up the way we know it is new. And American. Pretty American. I may, you know, invented here. I mean, like, most things, like, with real talk, like, America's pretty unparalleled and unprecedented in the things that events. We've got a couple things, yeah. We've invented everything. The car, the TV, flight, internet.

It's a pretty big deal. Jazz, stand-up. The nuke. Country. Nuke. Newk. Basketball. Oh, yeah.

It's like. Love basketball. I mean, what else do you want from us? That's what I met you, you're a Knicks fan too. Die hard. Yeah. Hell yeah.

I was, I never think about what to wear. I'm like, you know what? I'm going to see him today. I'm going to fucking bring it. There's no reason not to bring positive vibes, which is exactly what I think this handsome gentleman did to me in reverse. He said, his chef fans coming. I'm going to wear this bills thing.

There you go. You just shamed him and had taken it off. Holy shit. He's representing. Actually, you know what? This was the first year I felt all four Super Bowl losses for the bills. Didn't feel bad. They were my four high school years.

it was devastating being a Jetset 4. You know, high school is prime fandom if you're a maniacia. Sure. It's the prime of the prime. You're old enough to know. You've got enough downtime and you're a lunatic to like be all in.

The bills went to fucking all four Super Bowls in my high school years. Never felt bad that they lost. This was their window this year. Like if you're a Bill's fan, this was the one. I like Josh Allen a lot. Yeah.

He's the best dude. I hate him as the football player. But in real life, real talk, he's a great dude. I love watching him. He's probably my favorite to watch. Oh, really? What did you think Aaron Rogers, that whole thing?

I'm still devastated about that. That talk about Jets fandom. Like, that team won seven games without Aaron. Aaron coming off in Achilles at his age. Then following season, the second half of that season, the Jets put up fucking points. They fired Sala, their defense fell apart because they were brilliant enough to make their defensive coordinator,

the head coach, which is not what you do in a football team. You always take the running backs for linebackers coach because you have continuity. but this moment is like sums up the last 15 years watching my 12 year old at the time or 11 year old son cry

when Aaron sat right to pass it when he sat right back down right because he got up and then he sits down and when he sits down I just basically blurt out because I'm completely psycho I'm like he's fucking out for the year and start like losing my mind

and then I turn to the left I mean this is by the way this is where the Jets I just want everybody to understand JetBans you're watching right now one of the seven best moments in Jets history. Wow. Yep, this.

A man carrying a flag. Yeah. That's it. That's top seven. Because you're like, I believe. Right. Hope. And like, and in five minutes later after this, he literally stands up, sits down and it's over.

It was the first play, wasn't it? It was the third play. Third play. Fourth play. Third play. Third play. Third or fourth play. I think the first play was the first down and there was second series.

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the former first round pick of the Bears, and now Rogers sits down. There it is. Really? He did lose. He still lost? In a miracle win, Antonio Gibson, as a rookie at the time, ran back a kickoff in overtime, but we really lost. You might have lost the battle, but we lost the war.

And in reality, like, yeah, man, what do I think? I think that Jets team makes the playoffs. Things are very, very different. I believe that because they win one with him. It's just like, it changes the whole culture. He's like two years later, he's, like two years later, he's good enough to make a,

a Steelers team get to the playoffs. Do you feel like the Jets are kind of cursed? I don't really believe in that shit. I don't think like Namath like fucked the devil the night before the fucking Super Bowl and like one. He fucked somebody. He fucked someone for sure. They had zero interceptions this whole season. That's remarkable.

Zero interceptions. Do you do that on that? No, no, the Jets are the first team in NFL history. We just did it. We did not have an interception all season. Oh, wow. Oh, you didn't have an interception all season? We did not create.

We on defense did not have an interception all season. That's what I mean. That's crazy. Damn. That's bad. That's bottom of the barrel stuff. We are definitely like, like, what's crazy is, what's crazy is in the late 90s, we went one in 15 and 97.

Like, the Jets were definitely like, boo. And then really when Parcells came from 98 where we went to the AFC, 96, we were won in 15. Parcell's the first year was 97. 98, we go to the AFC championship game. We go to two more championship games with, you know, Sanchez and Rex. You know, from 98 to 2011 in that 13 year window, we make the playoff six, seven times. We go to two AFC championship games. We win plenty of playoff games.

But Sanchez sold a soul or something to get to that AFC championship because he just beat the shit out of some dude, right? Yeah. He got a little weird. I love Mark. That's like a version of damn Yankees or something where Pull it up. He like sold his soul and then he's like, all right, but I got to beat the shit out of an old man now. Right now, right now, though, the last 15 years, we've not made the playoffs in 15 years.

It's the longest drought in North American sports. There's no team in hockey, baseball, football, or basketball that has not made the playoffs longer than the Jets. Worse Jet than Lillita Express. So, yeah, it's been rough, boys. Yeah, I'm sorry. On brighter news, what about you guys? Like from afar, if I may just give some flowers. Oh, God.

It's been enjoyable to watch the growth over the last two, three years. It's been very obvious that this is bad? Well, we can't take compliments. It's weird. But hey, it's good to have you. At least your son is into the team. At least your son is into the team. Wouldn't that be more of a bummer of your kid hated the Jets?

Yes, I'd be dead. Well, by the way, real quick, the truth is he'd be, like, there was no option. Right, right. You can do anything in my family. You can't be a fan of a team that's not the Jets. Of the Bills? Yeah, that would be like- That would break my heart.

I went to college. My brother's 11 years younger, me, best friend of my life, started a lot of business with my brother. He actually runs a sports agency. He runs VaynerSports, our sports agency. You know, we have sauce gardener, her cousins, Bram Miller and basketball.

Like it's a big firm. He's 11 years younger. I went to college, I was 18, obviously. I come home for that first Thanksgiving. I walk in and he has a bad, Harry Sanders jersey. Oh boy. In his closet that my mom bought.

I didn't even talk to him. I looked at him, hug, kiss, miss you, let's play video games after dinner, so happy to be back, see it in the corner. No talk, just grab it, take it out of the closet, bring it into my room, pull out the scissors from my desk, and literally cut it up.

Whoa. That's my life. And what do you say? He was fine, he thought, like, I don't, he was seven. Oh, you were seven. My mom was pissed. I was born in the Soviet Union.

You don't throw out 13 cents of food, let alone cut up a $30 shirt. Sure. She shit or she was pissed. Damn. And it was the first time, this is like that college bravado. It was actually the first time I ever went back at my mom in my life. I didn't even think about disrespecting her. I was like, yeah.

Showed her who's boss. I was like, mom. I was like, not this. Wow. Yeah, mom. Because you thought it was like character building to do that. I only understand why people hate each other in real life, race, gender, religion, only understand it.

I think it is the craziest fucking shit. I'm so pissed at all of us right now. The fuck's the matter with you fuck faces hating people for no reason other than different, but I do understand. That gentleman, it was weird what my chemicals did when I saw the bills coat. It was weird, I'm telling you,

I brought up down nine times in the first two minutes. I can only... It's better than if we had like a black producer and he's like, I don't know what happened to me, dude. I went, I saw red. He had a Fubu sweater, I cut it up. I literally, I literally do, I literally can understand tribalism. Yeah.

In human race only through the lens of sports. Well, it's better through sports. I mean, that's a good way to channel it. That's not real. It's all, it's a game. It's like, it's fun. That. When we're at the garden and we're going to be psychos this summer.

Yeah, yeah. And when the fucking Pacer, well, not this year. Ah, when, when, when, we were at the Pacers game and they fucking beat us. In overtime. I know. I saw you guys. I know. That piss me off.

Yeah. I hate fucking Indiana. What a shithole Indiana is. Reminds me a buffalo. It's where the Klan started. Is that true? I believe so. Is that true?

I might have made that up. That's a good thing. It's also where a whiskey is distilled, so don't trash it too hard. But I actually love the University of Indiana, so I better not shit out. Oh, dude. That's true. Yeah, Blumenton's great. Great.

I have a lot of love for Indiana. I just hate the Pacers, by the way. No, it's the Pacers. I really hate the Pacers. Yeah. It made no sense. It made no sense to me that it wasn't in the South. On Christmas Eve.

Congrats. There's some crazy KKK ties to Indiana. By the way. By the way, by the way, this is remarkable. The fact that the KKK was founded on Christmas Eve is not talked enough about. That's hilarious. That's very Jewish of them. They should be celebrating Christmas.

Wow. The next day they had Chinese food. They're like, it's pretty good. What the hell? Pretty good. Okay. Okay, force, the powerful force, based in the Indianapolis. I say, respect.

Mark knows his racism. Hey, thank you. Thank you. My dad's a dragon, grand wizard. Sorry. So, yeah, I got a question for you. So you're a big hustle grind guy. You're good at the internet promoting, getting the word out.

Yes. I got a Netflix special coming out in one month. What is your advice or give me a pitch to really get this puppy out in the world? Because they make us promote it. These quiffs sit on their ass. They got all the money in the world. but they make us do all the heavy lifting. Queef.

Yeah. The word that most made me laugh in junior high. I'm excited that you brought it back. Ted Sarando just pulled the special. He's like, queers who the fuck? Do you have the rights to all the raw footage or does Netflix? Not all of it. Not all of it, right?

I have a lot of it. When I say the rights, here's what I mean. And I'm empathetic because I do this for a living. Netflix would be hesitant because they have this theory that if you put out too much, people won't tune in. Oh, is that right? But I will tell you that you that's, But the way to win on this game is to take all the footage from the show, chop it up into as many pieces of content, post it organically.

What do you mean organically? That means you're just posting it on social without putting paid media behind it. Oh, okay, okay. That's an industry marketing term. Organically, normals are just like post it. Post it. And if something hits, which it will, because you're talented, you definitely have at least one good fucking moment. Oh, yeah. There's a couple.

What do you think? 17? Well, it's an hour long, so I hope a few. So you, 17, 31 good moments. All right, I'll take it. Easy. So in those 31 moments, you clip them up, you post them organic.

Whichever one organically gets a million views, 500,000 off your baseline of 40,000, 100,000, I don't know your social well enough to know what your baseline is. But anything that over indexes, I, if I'm you, am running thousands of dollars in ads against certain demos. You know the content of your special. So again, if you talk a lot of football stuff,

You go and football fans, like there's a way for you to use ads. Yeah. It's a couple bucks out of your pocket. Up, but the upside's so worth it because you know this. If you hit those ads hard for three, four days before it hits and you really have that opening and the algorithm gets you to, you know, you get more tune in, which takes you instead of number seven because you're going to fucking be in top 10 regardless. Hopefully. I think you're at that point in your career. I believe it.

You'll be in there. But being seven versus one and being seven on top 10 Netflix for a half a day and then 11 and being off. and being off the grid versus being one for 48 hours, changes everything for you. Okay. So Gary, if I gave you my phone right now. I would take it. And said, can you make a video for Mark?

Yes. Lead him with a hook. Get him to say something to camera. Yes. Oh, geez, a lot of pressure. But he's up for it. Anyone can do it. It's him.

Make a video. You can use anything in the room, his face. Yep. Make him. Well, I'm going to use my face because he'll get more views. Mark, why should people fucking? watch this special. Hey, it's a good special. A lot of jokes. Very funny. No, that's not enough, bro. Oh, it's, uh, it's gonna be world changing. I'll name all the

Epstein people. By name? I have all the names. I'm the guy who does the black marker, so I can tell you who's on him. To turn to Netflix. Now. Like, it's basically a lot of that kind of stuff. Oh, God. I'm so bad at that. But then again, but then again, it's that mixed in with when he made the Epstein joke, you put in a clip from the special. And there's a little post production, very easy shit. Even in CapCut,

fucking Adobe. You can do it. And here's the key of marketing in 2026. It's all social organic. It's multiple accounts. Let me give you a real, I'm going very nerdy. Instagram, TikTok.

But I want to give you one that's going to really work for you. Okay. If I'm you guys, you create a TikTok handle that doesn't exist yet. Oh. At Marks.

Epstein's innocent. What's the name of the special? None Too Pleased. At None Too Pleased. Yeah. At Mark's Netflix special. Two new accounts. And you're fucking posting organically there like crazy.

Whoa. Got it? And again, here's the key. Here's the key. When it does well. He's cooking. I didn't get here with my fucking looks, even though we all look to be.

I'm going to look like you in eight years. When it gets a lot of organic views, that needs to be discussed. Do you put paid media behind it? Do you clip it and put it somewhere else? Like what do you, like the insights from knowing what hit. In fact, if I was a stand-up comic, which I secretly, why I want to hang out with these guys,

I secretly, if you look at my business keynotes, I have that cadence, but I don't have this skill, but if I was cooking on my special or like what I was really working, when I go in the lab, I know some of my most successful stand-up comic friends, they like really go off the grid. I don't know your guy's process.

I would be putting out shit, not the whole thing. but using social's AI relevance algorithms to my advantage to tighten up the shit. No matter how smart my fucking comic friends are and they could sit through it, no matter how hard I try and play it in smaller clubs before I get to the prime time,

AI algorithms and social are better than fucking Conan's subjective opinion or seven shows in Calgary, Buffalo, Indiana, Tennessee where not a lot of people are to get a feel for it, it's going to outpace it. So the combination of the new and the old, I look at it like a barbell, I like the analog. I like going to the club and trying it out, right?

I like that. Sure. But I also like weaponizing this new digital world and putting out little pieces. Do both. Because I think it's even more upstream. I think it, I think social can actually impact the set to be even better.

But don't you don't want to not, you don't explain. Okay. You're working on something. Yeah. You're working on your next thing. Yeah. Taping next week. Is that true?

Yeah, yeah. Tampa. You know, theater. Okay, first of all, congrats. Fuck, man. If I'm just May, I'm just going to do it for a whole genre. I'm 50. Like, HBO stand-up, like, Andrew Dice Clay.

Oh, we watched all of it. Like, my buddies all made fun of me in college because everybody came with CDs of music. I came with Sandler, jerky boys, Richard Pryor. Like, stand-up for me is to watch what's happened. Those Sandler albums were, like, innovative, man. Huge.

What about the jerk? Bro, what about the jerky boys? I'm too young for this. Oh, I love a girl. How old are you? I'm 39. I think you just, maybe just a hair, like, a decade above. I, I prank called people in eighth grade just because I'm like, I want to be like them.

I would just fucking, it was the best. It was the best. And then to me, Richard Pryor, I know he gets, thank God, he gets the flowers he gets. I think it's even better than people like truly actually. Oh, yeah. Maybe the best of all times. His peak is insane. I mean, like, live in concert and sunset strip are like fucking.

It's just so. I feel like everyone's a weird derivative of him in some shape or... He's that top of the tree and obviously others, Carlin and Bruce. But nonetheless, here's how. If this was not a week from now, your shit's tight. You pretty much know what you're doing. Yeah, but yeah, but after that, I'll be a cripple for quite some time. Respect.

But I would say this, the next one. Yeah. When you're like in the earliest of stages just thinking of shit, I think when you like, here's what I would do. I would try a lot of shit on stages and small places, film it, and then really see

if you can put little mini clips out and you're gonna get a different response from 38 people, 57 people in Cincinnati than you might get from coastal, you know, I don't have to explain what I'm saying to you. Use the algorithms to your advantage.

Let me explain something to everybody that might be valuable for anyone who's listening. Small business owner, somebody's trying to pop off. The algorithms expose you. They don't change you. Everybody's algorithm is a complete direct correlation

to what they're engaging with and searching and looking at. Yeah, but you don't want to curate to the algorithm because that's going to change your voice. Correct. Correct. It's actually the opposite. You're exactly right. Okay. You want to only do your shit post at scale.

Wow. Wow. Jesus. It's going to move my life, dude. Post not. I'll tell you why. When you're even writing, again, I don't know your process, but as you're putting together your next special, like literally right after Tampa,

you're you you know it's gonna be another year six months I don't know your cadence right longer respect 18 months even when you're writing even when you guys are jamming you're fucking filming it you guys laughed it goes out

it fucking goes out like the whole I would literally film every second from day one of like fuck I'm on the hook yeah that's why he's doing that's what he's doing literally every like I basically he's taking a shit later he's like let me get this because shit

taking a shit gets views with all seriousness note I think if you film the whole process put out lots of pieces you can use it as a feedback loop and here's the best part Isn't it good to have some mystery though Yes it is

Because it feels like if you film everything We're gonna become a society Of everyone just walking down in the street Like and then I said that And you're just like what the fuck has the world But you know what the best part is And I've you know we've all seen that like video and all that stuff

Yeah but the fucking truth wins Meaning we're not gonna be a society Of everyone filming because everyone... Tell that to Pam Bondi. Because every... Well, yeah. Governments are going to be filming everything.

That's done. Robots filming everything is done. Like, surveillance state is real for our grandkids. The ring camera. It's got everything. It's going to be way more than that. Like, once China puts the thumb on a scale, we're going to have to counter. But don't you think, like, I feel like it's changed the way.

I don't like that the way to meet people is through our phones. I miss eye contact. I can't get a fucking woman on the street to make eye contact now because they're all on their phones. So prior, you would. just like you really liked a good street encounter? I think it was more organic, to use your word, organic. I agree. No, and I kind of like that.

Now it's like, you want to make eye contact. You got to follow them in their hallway, you know? Uh-oh, easy big fun. Like all the way down their hallway. I'm joking. But now it's like everyone's on the phone. There's no, I think everyone's on these apps now. I think it's just harder to meet people now.

It's easier and harder, right? It's easier to meet than ever. There's so many people that were introverted. That makes it harder. By the way, there's plenty of people who are 60. right now saying, shut your fucking mouth. I wish I had swipe right at scale. I would have fucking crush.

You know what I mean? Like there's plenty of people it would have been better for, plenty of people that it's not as good for. But I would say to you, and you know this, like, you're in control. You don't want to play that game, you don't have to. Yes, are other people playing it? Yes.

Are there plenty of people that agree with you both on the women and men's side at scale? In fact, it's very clear that the early trends are in place that Gen Alpha, the young crew behind Gen Z is in full agreement with you and going much more analog

There's 13, 14 year olds, yeah until I bring a woman home and she sees a red light in my room and I'm like, Gary V told me to videotape everything I got a videotape us fucking because of Gary Remind her that some of the most famous people became famous through sex tapes

She might think it's a good strategy Chuck Barry did it Yeah, Chuck. In the camera in the toilet That is a crazy video. Crazy. Guys, if you guys, What is this?

He was the mayor of B.C. I don't, you're thinking of Mary and Barry. Chuck Barry film women in the bathroom of his bar. Oh. Guys, fuck Chuck Berries. Though I don't know it, it might be better. But Marion Berries is fucking insane. Does he really have a sexy?

He was a crack kid. Smoking crack, that's it. That's from a before time. That's from a Chris Rock special. Yeah, yeah. This is so fucking crazy. Oh. You can't do that at McDonald's.

I know the whole brand special. Oh, that's all you need to see. Keep hitting dismiss. Now we had a scrubberry. Unbelievable. Barry Sanders. I can't believe it. Anyway.

So how is it helping? How is it really helping your material? I think it's making your material worse. I think it's helping. Really? Yeah, brother. I'll tell you why. You're building so much more awareness.

Like, you're going to have so much more. This is unbelievable. Oh, here we go. What the fuck is this? Guys, this is, you have to have to have said this is 1990. He's the mayor. He's the mayor of D.C. Whoa.

This isn't the internet era. There is no internet yet. So, like, real footage is, like, rare to begin with. So he's filming this or she is? The cops are. He's literally in a hotel room. Smoking crap. Wow.

Crack, right, brother? Yep. It was crack. It was definitely crack. It says crack bust. No, who is... Oh, this isn't sexual. No, no.

Okay. I was waiting for a hook. He was probably. Probably thinking that might be part of the equation, maybe added value. Who's his lady crack dealer? The added value crack dealer. I guess so. The best part is the cops coming in.

Holy shit. You have gotten so much better. You guys. And you're a bedroom alone. You have no idea how insane this was. Oh, I remember this. There's like nobody. Come on, hit the pipe.

There it is. There we go. Hell yeah. Now there's trouble. Oh, that's good stuff. The Canadian guy was a crackhead, too. Oh, yeah. The one who looked like Farley?

Yeah, Ford. Toronto guy. Wow, swarm, swarm. Anyway, I think it's better. Got reelected, by the way, after that. Sam, I think you can get a lot more awareness to who you are. I don't think you have to give it away. I think there's really strategic ways.

Also, I'll be honest with you, I would love to watch. This was wild. I forgot about him. Holy shit. Graced crack mayors. It's like a whole genre. This is crazy. You know what?

They say comes in threes. I wonder which mayor joins. I hate that TMZ voice. If you want to see the crackhead mayor. I know. I want to punch that fucking voice in the face. By the way, Harvey Levin's in Epstein. He's all over the files.

Fun fact. Yeah? Pull it up. Play that video, Harvey. Is that right? Yeah. Jesus. I know.

Everybody's in the files. Including Jesus? No. He came back just to go to the island. He heard it was great. He didn't have a lot of holes in the bill. He's like, this was the moment I was waiting for. He's come again.

He has risen. Harvey Levin. That's that shit. Appears in that. Some reports indicate. All right. We have to say allegedly. Yeah, yeah.

I'm not trying to get anybody in trouble here. Yeah, you better all right. What are you saying here? What I'm saying is I actually would love to see the process of you working on a joke along the way. He's got a show about that. Oh yeah, we're working on that. Yeah, so to me, seeing little clips, especially once the first one hits, I like it,

now it's in my feed, I see another version. And then when the special comes to see that you tweaked it a little bit, I actually think that's super interesting. Okay, I like that. And I think a lot of people would like that. I'm not asking you to put out the whole fucking special. Right. But I think there's a way that yours,

I guarantee, in fact, that you would have a better special if you did it this way, because you would have a much better read. This is why all of you were brilliantly doing this for decades, doing small shows in small areas to get a feel to the prime time. This is just the fucking dramatically scale. I love this. I love this.

I love this. No, no, no. This is fucking smart. So this would be running a joke by other comedians. Which is what you guys do. That's all we do. No one ever has shown this. That's what they have got a nift.

Bad people have great aim. I just mostly was going to make fun of Jews. Yeah, fucking Bobby Kloops my nip. I hate the nipple. I hate the nipple flick. We're too old for a nipple flick. Yeah. We got into a very big combo the other day about pantsing.

You guys do a joke about, what are we doing? Pansing is very, pantsing was very big. I got pants in front of a woman in like seventh grade. A woman or a girl? In front of a girl. Okay, God, I just thought. I wasn't that cool. How to make sure what was going on?

It was a classmate, but he pants me. It's more important if you know the other way. Tiny dick out, the whole thing, the schoolyard, and it was like full-on fist fight. Because I was so enraged because the humiliation. I kicked his ass. I jumped kick him, which was a big move back. I won, yeah. I jumped kicked him in the stomach.

He went down and I really pumbled it with my little dick. But yeah, that was... Did you use your fists or just your dick? The dick didn't do any damage. You got it. You had to switch to hand. Panting wedgies? Yeah.

I will say Pancing was terrified me from 92 to 92. Oh, yeah. And you remember the biggest moments. I guess I'll say it. I hope her kids ask her about it because it's just a funny thing. now, I hope, 32 years later, but like Michelle LaMontaine got pantsed in like our main... A lady. A lady.

Damn. A lady. It's crazy. And... What year? What grade? 1994. North Hunter in high school.

La Fontaine? La Fontaine. Pull her up. Maybe you've got an only fans now at all. It was a preview. She was a nice girl, too. It sucked. Ah, who pants is a lady?

Some jerk off probably like I'm trying to think who my class would have been good I think she may be married and has a different name now Yeah that's probably right Or she changed her name for another reason Gary keeps telling this story on a podcast I gotta change this She preempted She was smart

She's a genius she's like I bet you someone will tell this story in 32 years Ironically change my name You have the loose lips You're having fun You guys are damn fucking good But yeah Charles Watney He was the guy who pants me

I really think that the process of the jokes and the road to the stand-up in social at scale as a promotion vehicle, but also as a test bed for material. Okay. I think makes both of you, and you guys are very legit in your fucking game. And for you guys, I think your fucking special is better if you went psycho on that process. I love it. I don't think you compromise it. I think there's ways to hedge. You know what the punchline is.

You don't want to compromise. I get it. But I'm telling you it. fucking work and I'm going to tell you again your best friend comics you know testing it out it's tiny compared to the algorithms the algorithms the fucking world yeah true that and to your point you're not compromising the content's finding its audience which is building micro fandom to the punchline moment it's like book sales right everybody comes to me I've done well in book sales how many books have you written I've written seven wow I've six New York Times bestselling books

Whoa. Only my... I'm listening. Is that what you do when you're impressed? Yes. So I tell people all the time, like, you're coming to me three weeks before the books out. You're fucked. What do you mean?

The promotion starts six months. Yeah, six months or like bills. Six? Yeah, bro. Like, I'm telling you. And by the way, what do you think is happening? You guys aren't lost on this. Tons of people are getting specials just because they're doing social well.

That's true. So what is that? That's years in advance. promoting yourself. That's it. Yeah. But again, I think there's, I'm glad that you two are deep in, like, what you just showed me would be one of the few things I would consume on television.

Me, Gary. Wow. I'm just talking about me as a human. One of the few things I would watch is a show like that because I think the creative The other one is Crackhead. Crackhead Mayors. Crackhead Mayors 4. I would, on the record, if you want one view, put out something called Crackhead Mayors

for the search for three. We're only on two right now. Did you know that that was the Spaceballs Two name? I believe this is true. It could have been myth and lore when I was a kid. When I was a kid, Spaceballs was my favorite movie.

I love Space Balls. And the rumor was Space Balls was going to come out. I know it's coming now finally. I believe it was going to be called Space Falls 3, the search for two. Right in Spaceball 3. There it is. There it is. Wow.

No, no, for two. There it is. Yes. Wait. Because the search, I think it's the search for money. That's a tagline. When I was a kid Scroll down, scroll down, I think it was there

Funny tag Plot Space Balls 3 The Search for Spaceball Yeah There is Okay, there you go We were just talking about the Mel Brooks dock

Because Oh my God That's insane So good Judd and Michael von Figlio Killed that man I loved it dude I mean

It was a wreck on the pod previously so I just finished it It's unreal What a life So funny Blazing Saddles is fucking perfect It's amazing

That is like That is like people say like you can't do this type of humor anymore You really can't do that type of fucking Well Dave Chappelle

The best line He goes They go could you do Blazing Saddles today He goes You couldn't do it today You couldn't do it then But he could

Which is so true Yeah There it is I mean the producers Is fucking genius Producers is so ahead of its time It's crazy And it bombed in the theater

Just super talent Until Peter Sellers Write Open letter To be like this is the best Two pages Two pages That's spent a lot of money

To help the guy What do you guys think about AI stand-up comics taking your money. I don't even know what it means. What does that mean? Yeah. So let's explain. You guys know, this is what you guys all most respect, there are writers that you guys know that are better than anyone, but they don't have the ability to do it on stage. Sure. Sure. Yes. What about 12 years from now where that writer has creates an AI person that fully looks like

a person because that's where this is all going. Uh-huh. And they now are the moneymaker, because it's actually their ability to get to the core of the craft, not the vehicle that delivers the information that gets the economics thoughts. Yeah, but a lot of the money's in live, so how does that work? Are they a hologram? They could. I mean, to your point, at extreme. That's not happening in your career time or at least towards the tail end.

What's great about comedy, you can do it forever. This is the drinking podcast. We don't have long. You guys look great. We're doing all right. Well, I hear you on that, but as a point, porn consumer. If I see AI porn, I move along. You've

already consumed AI porn and not realized it. There's no chance. I know LaFontaine's Bush when I see it. We wiki search all the women to make sure they were really abused. Men, we are within 24 to 36 months where there's no shot

that the human eye will know if it's human or a... Really? No shot. I don't know. Pretty good with a labia, with a belly button, with a tit. Nope. They should be complaining about losing their jobs this is crazy everybody's going to have to go through this there was a video that went viral this week about Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise fighting I saw it okay guys but Epstein's Island guys it's go it's

that's what the fight was about is that right I'm telling you this is like real shit this is like like like it's re and and to me the reason I asked the question is I'm curious it's interesting right because where is the real art right there's the creative and there's the vessel that delivers it yes and I think both are real art of course stage presence cadence like I'm obsessed with that shit. I rely on that shit for my career. But it is going to be interesting. There will definitely

be a writer who is going to stand up an AI stand-up comic that they own. They're Walt Disney. That's their Mickey Mouse. It just happens to look literally like a human. I think that's okay because at least a human wrote it. I'm okay with that. But it's when the AI starts writing.

I think we're getting into murky waters here. Well, it's definitely murky, but I'd rather that than AI writing jokes because now we're in trouble. We just exposed who's more purist of the crap. At least the guy wrote it. But when they start doing the writing, they're going to take our job. So now they don't have to perform it.

Part of the building the jokes is actually performing and honing it. So I think it's actually makes them less of a curious. Yes, but you also just said something earlier. You said stand-ups a new art. You know, my favorite thing to bring up. But to me, that's a shortcut. To me, part of what building the hour, the reason I've done nine hours a week leading to the special is to cut all the fat through trial and error.

So to me, eliminating that process, it's not going to be as sharp. It's not going to be as good. But I think that will probably show on the work as well. On the consumer side, it's going to be better. Yeah? This is where it's going. Cheaper? And quicker.

And why do you sound like a fucking supervillain right now? No, by the way, I'm actually posing this as like something that I think we all collectively need to talk about versus what I think everyone's doing, which is this. Yeah. Like, I'm actually going the other way. I'm like, hey, can we start talking about shit? Like, I don't know if you know this, but talking things. out matter. By the way, one of the great reasons you fuckers really matter to the world is you have a

format and a style and a structure and a thing called stand-up that allows you guys to fucking talk about shit that others can't talk about because of this beautiful craft. You're going to tell the truth. You better be funny. Oscar Wild. That's right. So I'm doing something similar, which is like I'm in business and culture and advanced technology and I am weirdly not concerned because I'm super bullish and optimistic about the human race. We figure things out. Hopefully, yeah. But really, there's...

Where do you think you get your optimism from? My mom's, my DNA, like, like nature and nurture. You know, like, when you're born in the Soviet Union, you come to America, like, you're already grateful for fucking everything. You know, like, everything's awesome. And then my mom was just fucking is, thank God,

she's still with us, is a gangster of like, what I would call practical optimism. I'm optimistic, but I'm a, street Jersey immigrant kid. Like, I'm not delusional. I'm not like, everything's gonna be okay. Like, in fact, as you probably know, because I have enough content out there,

or you probably stumbled on it, I'm the one that's like, stop being a bitch and like everything's your fault. And like, you know, the optimism comes with accountability and truth. But there you go. And so like, you know, every time you're impressed. Yeah, there you go.

This makes me feel really good. So I think the farts, that's when you're really getting a, of course, shend up. If you cross the line, I don't know shit his pants, but until then. It goes the other way. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I just think that I got very fucking fortunate with like circumstance and parenting. Like back to fighting, like Jersey in the 80s. And you guys know this. The other thing that I've always loved about comics and why I love the genre, the people, the craft, is like, being made fun of is the biggest term of love. Sure, sure.

Like if we were in this culture when I was growing up, like I'd have all, every one of my core best friends spent 97% of their time trying to think of how to make fun of me. Yeah, that guy who pants marked really loved him. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, you should actually send him a letter. Yeah, yeah.

He's, I think he's a heroin act now. Should we look him up? I think it depends. I don't want to bother the guy. He's going to come back. Oh, shit. You guys might have a celebrity fight. You should be on the undercard of fucking Jake Paul's next fucking met.

Oh, there you go. Here's some money. Pull him up. You could make like $5 million. I don't want to out the guy. He could be a $1.000. change man. What about $5 million? Sure, I'll take $5 million. All right. Out him.

Yeah. We took basketball for five seconds. Please. Do you think we can win this title? I believe. I like the moves at the deadline. I like Grand Theft Alvarado. Oh my God. I'm fired the fuck up. A mini Josh Hart from New York? What? I love it. Puerto Rican. Yeah, we were fired up. I'm just saying another fact about him. Are you guys fired up? I'm fired up, dude.

I really. can I ask you this as a diehard Knicks fan? How often every day, week, month does it cross your mind of like, we're set up, which means something stupid's going to happen, someone's going to get hurt? I don't think that way. Because it's been this long since we've been in contention. I think last year we should have gone to the finals and we fucked up. And that would have been, you know, 25 years.

I mean, it was 25 years since we made the Eastern Conference final. So to me, I was like, let's just fucking be positive. Let's just feel good about this. I love the team. I mean, there are, Bruns is amazing. But like, defensively. And he does so many, small. He's very small.

And it's not his fault. He's everything right. He's a great rebounder though. Correct. It's like all these nuances. I feel like they're just, I agree. I, on the other hand, am like, fuck, man. I really think this is our year.

And like, fuck. You know, like the bills, right? Like, this was their year. Yeah. Right. The chiefs. Just you're a gunshot off camera. You know, just like, you know, like, you don't want to miss that window.

But the pistons are fucking tough. Yeah, man, they are tough. It annoys me how tough. I like that they've beaten the shit out of us though. Yeah. I like this false bravada. I kind of like already have fully dreamed up. The Celtics did to his last year.

Correct. They beat the shit out of us. I fully have dreamt in game one stunning them in Detroit and then being like, oh, fuck. And I'm fucking taking the series. I'm nervous. I'm nervous, too. They're very tough. It sucks to go against a tougher team in the playoffs, but we are more skilled, I think.

But they're tough. They're tough. They're tough. They're tough. I respect them. How far out in Jersey did you live? Did you get to come in the city and go to games and all that? No, that was more just because we were fully immigrant life.

In high school, I did. In high school I did. But I lived in Edison. Oh, okay. So I lived in Edison, New Jersey. Not far from where Kat grew up. And it was awesome. Like, another thing that I think makes me love people is I got very fortunate with the diversity I grew up with.

I went to Martin Luther King Elementary School in Edison, New Jersey. and we had like the crazy, I looked at my second grade picture. Yeah, thank you. I love this fucking, this is the best part of the show. Google bitch. We had crazy diversity.

I was there with the big Indian immigration era. Look at that school. By the way, I was the president of the school in fifth grade. I'm feeling feelings right now. Wow. Did you have to run against anyone? I did. I did.

I got, you know what, in hindsight? I used to feel proud of myself and then I realized something not too long ago. it was a three-person race it was me versus Kim Delahey and Kristen

Diane Foster I don't remember but it was two people two girls in me so I won the full boys' voice fifth raid I won the full boys vote Women they're temperamental

we can't They can't decide what's for lunch They can't lead How the fuck did you know my opening line I'd be scared to give a speech I'd be scared to give a speech at MLK If I get shot What are you're like alumni

She sounds a little cranky It sounds like she hasn't eaten in a while. Which one? That's that time of the month. I like this. 78 to 83? Wait, did Jessica Alba go to my school? It didn't.

She would have won. She would have beat me, yeah. No, that's Thomas Edison in Florida. Anyway, so I grew up there, like classic 80s, Jersey fucking childhood. But no, I didn't get to go to games because we didn't spend money on things like that in the beginning. And then my dad went from being a stock boy and owned a small liquor store in Springfield, New Jersey. and a big thing happened for me in my favor. My dad was part of a co-op

because all these stores were small. They couldn't buy a full-page ad and a Star Ledger themselves. So they built a whole co-op. Everybody would chip in. And then they were able to buy ads. And my dad was in charge of the beer that would go in every week on sale.

So the beer people would want to hook him up because they wanted their beer in the ads. So Miller and Coors and they all had seats. And so when I was in high school, I was able to go to I was able to go to a lot more Nick games and Ranger games. You know what?

The 892 Rangers is prop. Look at that guy. How cute. Look at that Yankee shirt. Look at that cutie. I would molest him. You would. Look at that's adorable.

You wouldn't last a day on that island, buddy. Yay. I'm impressed with that. Love it. Look at those. Look at the Yankee. Bro, I was a big Yankee fan. That is cute.

That one's cute. That's cute. 85. Look at that. Huh? Boy, oh, boy. Jared Fogle is calling it. There's my real face.

Oh, wait, that one right there. Yeah, oh, no, they edited it. Look at that sweater. That's 80s, baby. Yeah, baby. That, they edited it. If you can find the real version, it shows my interest. I wonder if there's a version of that. Oh, actually, there's my second grade class.

There is right to left. Oh, here? Yeah. Holy God. Whoa. I want you to focus. Look at this diversity. There is Indian, Asian, black.

Look at, look at that. This will be all Indian today, by the way. Correct. That is, like, I was there when it really exploded. Oh. It got even crazier. But there it is. Wow.

This is wonderful diversity. Sure. Michael Wong right there. Jonathan Cazadoy. Wachiel Shaw. Looks like Sarah Sherman in the bottom left there. I'm in with my two best friends, Dave Jennings and Roshan Courtney. Is that here in the middle?

Yep, that's me in the middle. Oh, man. You were black? I mean, pretty much. Oh, this is you here. Yeah, that's me. Oh, look at that. Brian Chen right below me to the left.

Wow. Ricky Deanne. Next time. Her name was Ricky Deanne. Rickety Ann. Yeah. God damn. All the way to the far right.

How is she going to Rickety Ann? That's Raggedy Andy on the right. Far right. That's Marissa Bird. May she rest in peace. One of my best friends. Tom Boy. She passed from cancer 10 years ago, unfortunately.

But I love that her name was Marissa Bird because she loved Larry Bird. And she literally was like the third best athlete, boy girl included in the class. Who's this dark? That is Mike Sacochi. Really. He was dorky all the way through. He took his own life eventually. I hope not.

He was a nice kid, but he was super dorky. Sweet boy. Cazadoys. Michael Wong right there. I brought him up recently. Smartest kid in our class. This is good content right here. Let's go through name by name.

Anyone else hard? We have literally the king of content here. He's like, and over there. And over there is a... I'm enjoyed to say. I just, final point. To your point, let's move on, but I gotta say this. We're gonna get flag.

That came Michael Wong in the red. We did a neck the year after this we did it. Is that hit with the camera? Michael. Michael. Michael. We did a class vote for the 84 presidential election and Michael Wong was the only kid in the entire school that voted for Walter Mondale.

Oh my God. And his reasoning. His campaign was a he's Wong for the school. Don't vote for him. He's long. I don't want to be white. For the country. Everybody wrote it for Reagan.

Every single kid in the school voted for Reagan. Fun fact, everyone was listening. Reagan won 49 of 50 states in 84. Wow. Seems insane now, right? Didn't Mondale lose his own state? No, he won his own state. He won his own state.

Minnesota. And Michael Wong, this face, look at this face. He, at nine years old, explained in deep analytical truths why Mondale was the right choice. We call that autism today. The different time. But any, he's the kind of goes by his own seat of his pants. Actually, I brought him up the other day for the first time in 30 years. People found him on LinkedIn.

He's crushing it. Good. He's like some lawyer executive. He's got balls. He went the other way. You guys all zigged. Intellectual monster. Yeah.

Michael Wong. There you go. Yeah, he went his own way. That's commendable. Intellectual monster does sound like a slur for an Asian person. By the way, I got something for you guys. These intellectual monsters. They're taking over tech.

Men, I want to bring good content. I got something for you. All right. I got a way for you guys to make millions. I think both of you should start doing live social shopping. Do you guys know about this? This makes it sound hateable. I'll take the black dildo.

You guys are... Which one's good for Dandruff? You guys have crushed... You guys have crushed. You guys have crushed hateability already. You're good. You're over the line on that. Watch this.

But look how this is so stylized and big production. She's got a conveyor box. That's a green screen. Guys, it's a green screen. and some intern is just handing her shit. Oh, all right. Now, this is the extreme in China 10 years later, but you men should create a product

and start doing live shopping where you're... Bredega cat. Yes. A whiskey. You sold booze for years. Do you guys have a Jersey distributor? Yes. Yeah, we do, but shop.

Do you? Yeah, yeah, I think so. So I will super support you. Do you guys want to do an event in Wine Library? Yes. I'll get thousands of people there. Oh, I will do a center. You guys would promote and get like 15 to 20 people there.

Oh! I'll promote. That's pretty good for us. Hey. Hey! That's content right there. Gary V. He's been sober 12 years.

What do you think? It's got a nice spice. Yeah, it's a hell of a rye. Guys, you did a nice job. Hey, thank you. You know what? Kudos, you know, usually. You want some water or anything?

When celebrities make something. We're not that. That's exactly what I was trying to say. When celebrities make something, a lot of times they'll put a private label on some horse shit and they try to peddle it was really prominent in 90s, early 2000s. That's really good stuff, guys. It's quite smooth, well-made. What's the suggested retail of something like that? 39-99.

But, yeah, online, it's like 45, I think, right now. Respect. Like at Wine Library, in Springfield, New Jersey, by the way, will probably be $29.99 because we discount everything. But seriously, if you guys have a Jersey distributor, I'd love to support you and do something meaningful. Wow, we would be honored. I'll take a foot. This is why trains here. By the way, his name's train.

Train. I ran one of you. I'll take a shot of this. We'll do something proper. I'll help you out because that's a really good man. Oh, thank you. Springfield. Really.

Edison. Bring the Indians. But on a serious, on a serious note, I really think live shopping, some comedian of, some comedian of your general ilk, call it tier 1.5. Sure. Right? Maybe not the top five.

Explain what it is to them? Yeah, it's QBC on TikTok, on, it's coming to all the platforms. I know it may work, but don't you think it's bad? No, I'll tell you why. And I'm starting to see a theme with you. That I'm going to help me. I want my shit to not suck ass? No, that's why I like you.

Oh, okay. That you think that everyone defaults into sucking ass. Right? There's genres, and to your point, 99% do it poorly. I was about to make that point earlier. The reason the world's not going to have everyone doing is, because they're not going to get views because they're not good enough.

Like, talent actually matters. But do you believe that the cream always rises to the top? I do. But I do believe, well, more now. By that logic, the best filmmaker ever is like Michael Bay. Great. So a couple things. The best commercially, right?

And to your point, not in the old world. I'll tell you what I love about social in comedy talk. I believe many of the comedians that are doing well right now would have had no prayer that the Internet didn't exist. I agree with that. Are they good or are they just out there a lot? The question becomes who gets to decide what's good? People who decided because everyone gets to decide what's good.

Correct. And so the market is the market is the market. Now in Hollywood, I don't think that's true because people subjectively decide what films go in. That's a small sample size and it has to play out. They're gatekeeping. They're gatekeeping. And by way, I'm not mad at them. It's the nature of what we grew up with.

There's only so many screens. Like, I get it. I love when everyone's like fucking like Superman 9 or we don't do. new franchises and then they get Pegged to be a superhero and they're like this is the best. Right. You know, like the amount of people that have shitted on the Marvel universe only to then get $10 million to be a new superhero and they love it. I would do it in a second. Correct.

I got Pegg to be a superhero. It was painful. Captain Pegg. But yeah. No, it's a good point. You guys were so, like that was so fun to watch. The fact that you two look alike and are in the same exact place mentally. Our periods are synced.

Fully, right? Fully. It's a heavy. low day. On a serious note, what superhero do you think you play? I can be like Ant Man or something, you know, something minor. I couldn't be Iron Man or Superman, but I can be a dushy

loser superhero. We're getting old to be superheroes. That's true. You guys are keeping it together? Captain Apathy. Maybe something, you know. Anyway, the listener. I think The diddler. I think that to your point, 90% of the content, I can tell you right now,

99% of the content on live shopping is what you would hate. Right? It's just low budget QVC. as if QVC wasn't like low budget QVC comma there are people that are starting to figure out something I believe in called commerce tainment let me tell you why I think you guys would crush

you guys actually know how to entertain if you took a step back and you understood what you were selling alcohol is a little tricky you know how that is with American laws but let's just say this was non-alcoholic and it was 40 bucks now you got a product that has a good AOV average order value it's 40 bucks if you guys did a show where you know your life selling and you want people to buy,

but you also want to entertain them. My belief is that knowing your talents from afar, that I know that you guys would figure out how to make that mix. And then now you're putting out an hour piece of content where you're interacting with your fans, which by the way, both of you on the record should do more of.

You guys going live for 15 minutes, pre or put, by the way, before I came on or after, just going live on TikTok, where they're just gonna send you random people because you're in the 4U page, We'll make you guys much bigger. We should try that. I mean, he'll film it.

We don't want to do anything. No, but you understand, right? And by the way, you guys could do it. Again, my greatest strength is I've got just enough percentage points of what you guys do for a living that I've been able to break out a business man. Who just happens to have a personality that is a little bit more engaging. But my biggest strength, for sure, is I've got improv capabilities. I can roll. When you go live, you're...

Your greatest strengths fucking shine extra. When you go live on TikTok, unlike when you go live on Instagram, when you go live on Instagram, it pings your fans. And then you know, because you've probably done it a couple times, like it starts with a couple hundred, and then there's like 12 people. Yes. Because it only pings once and people actually drop up. Respect.

TikTok's the reverse. By the way, this man deserves a raise. Yeah. Oh, really? I'm being dead serious. This gentleman. Oh, we're doing a lot. We're doing it now.

Now, what are you live on? TikTok. Great, beautiful. I don't even know we had a TikTok account. Let me tell you why this is important. You see, this is where I give up. Right there, I already give up. You're fired now, but you'll be rehired.

He is risen. What you're about to see is super important. Oh, God. And this will help both of your specials get bigger tuning. Okay. Let me play with it. TikTok has the 4U page. Yes.

They want live. to grow. So they're throwing lives into people's for you page at a higher propensity. The people that are about to show up on this may not know any of the three of us. No clue. It's random people. But random people's no different than having a Netflix special and they're like, let me try it. True. So you're getting distribution or free. No one's deciding at Hulu, Amazon, Netflix, or anywhere else that you get on. And this has the potential audience that's greater than any platform in the world. I hear you. Can I ask a question? Please.

What do you think about a little thing called over exposure? I believe that that is a old Hollywood concept that because we live in such a fragmented world that nobody has over exposure. And with all due respect, men, neither one of you are overexposed. Well, I have a question to go off what Mark says. Look at someone like Sidney who is so famous and all that. Correct. Don't you feel like people kind of turned on her for a while due to overexposure?

No, I think they turned on her because we're in a politically charged world. And there was a couple different instance. and good news, both of you are highly capable of having people turn on you. Yeah, it's already happened. I've been called a Nazi many times. I don't even have tits. You understand?

I think so. Over exposure is 1987. Nobody's that big. Yeah. There's tons of people that you think are... Do you know how many people have no idea who... We're just very self-conscious about putting too much out. Guys, I know because you're in the perfect age where you're confused by this

because you're just old enough to hold on to yesterday's years of distribution. Yeah. But what do I feel like we're boring these people already. You're not boring these people. Can you please explain to these handsome men that you were not bored? Please explain to them that you were not bored. I'm bored. I don't want to see this ugly mug.

Look at these brillo pads floating around. So men. Like Chappelle, right? Yeah. Like Kevin Hart. I'm going to use him. I think he's over exposed. Ready?

Not overexposed on the data. Overse exposed on your subjective opinion based on yesterday's rules. All right. You would shit how many people have no idea who the fuck Kevin Hart is. No way. Okay. Come on. He's pretty popular.

He's as famous as it gets. And when he goes on a Twitch stream with a young streamer, half the room is like, who's this? Really? Like with an I show speed or one of those guys? That's right. I'm proud of you. I think I got that. That's Kai.

Yeah, we're too old to be superheroes. Man, this is a big deal, especially for you guys personally. Like, real talk outside the pod. seriously before a nick game or if we were hanging you guys are in a very interesting spot because you're and by the way I don't know you dudes I have no idea of how much bigger you want to get you might be fucking pumped exactly where you are

yeah this is not bad but real talk there are definitely strategic executions that put you in a different stratosphere if you want it because you have all the elements all the ingredients it's about playing the distribution and awareness I'm gonna call my agent like I should be bigger he said real talk damn But you know what I mean?

No, I mean, there's stuff we want to do. I think we're kind of patient. We wrote a movie. We're going to film it. I think it's like... Yeah, by the way, all of that, like... Maybe we'll hit you up at promoting the movie. I feel we were doing this without something like push, you know?

Bro, you'll love this so much. I couldn't understand what the fuck you're saying more. Makes all the sense in the world. I would also say that if you actually gave me three hours to explain it in detail, it's not the ick that you think it is. But there's a little thing called mystique. Don't you feel like some guys have mystique? and you go, oh, I wonder what they're up to.

Yes, but again. You see them every three years, and they blow your mind and they go away again. Yeah, a couple things. One, I don't think you're playing that game. Okay. Like, I don't think you guys are. I don't think you're doing every three years make $50 million. No, we're definitely not. Okay.

So you're not playing that game. Two, I'm telling you the attention of society is fragmented. Yeah, we lost all our listeners in this episode. Yeah, especially because I was fucking pointing to Michael Wong for an hour. You know, like, I fucking ruined you guys. We lost the females with the bills. talk too. Yeah, for damn short. But that's... We don't have any female listeners.

I guess that. We had one trans. You understand? It's not as... Train's here. Trained gender. You've turned him into like... He's like a mini-me version of you now. That was like a Norman autistic like trans, train. Brain. Insane. Man, you are dangerously close to the next tier if you wanted it.

And I think there are some tweaks. And more importantly, why I'm really ranting this, you guys I'm really proud of you guys are crushing There's a lot of people listening right now Who are junior versions of you Who really need to hear what the fuck I'm saying I hear you but there's also There's a lot of work because once you do this level of work You gotta keep it up

Then you have no life No you don't have to do anything Oh that's what I've been trying to say I don't want to do anything But you understand You could do it for six months You decide it's too much You could go to Africa for a month

What am I, Chappelle That's exactly where I'm going I use Chappelle as the example You can do wherever fuck you want. I'll go to South Africa. You know what I mean? You know what I mean, brother? You like this whole thing like you're fully in control.

I'm asking and wondering, does this crew, I mean, he's ambitious. Yeah, well, he's broke. Makes sense. I feel like it's cool to know how much you guys are in charge and like where you can go. Like, again, I come here out of like real joy because you guys are in the sweetest spot that I think a career can be in where you have optionality. And if you're romantic, and I think it's strategic,

that like, no, no, I want to go down this path. We're going to write film. Like, that makes sense to me. Sure. Like, it's definitely the game that you guys watched happened before you. We had fun writing it together. I think we're not fun making it.

Well, now you're talking about the realest shit. Anything that I'm saying that's not fucking fun, fuck it. All right, all right. This is not about you have to. I like that. This is, you should consider if you want XYZ to happen.

Yes. And back to the Chappelle reference, if you get, Like if you followed it and it goes to a place Financially brand awareness opportunity And you're like actually this is fucking fuck this Then fucking take your fucking foot off the pedal But it's nice to hear and we're watching you

This is like watching Walter White make meth We got you on here and you're doing your thing Yeah I like making meth That explains your face Which you share very simply I know I know Remember this is like we've established that we all look enough alike that any disc is a fucking disc

on your fucking self. It's a fucking mirror. We all have this Eastern European face for sure. For sure, yeah. Man, thank you for having me on. That's been awesome, man. We appreciate it. That was amazing.

Yeah, I mean, anything you want to plug? No. Look at the talkers and doers, baby. Oh, get on his Instagram. On the right is Chris Brown, by the way. No, man. Honestly, this was very selfish. I've been enjoying watching you guys execute over the last five years.

I'm a real fan of, honestly, the whole genre and kind of this modern comic with all this optionality and I think you guys do good work and the Knicks fan thing really matters to me Me too, dude everyone in my team is a big Knicks fan and my lawyer, my agent

I'm like that's important to me do you like the Knicks? Yeah! Right because the Buff, like you're good that way right? And why Buff, you grew up there? Yeah, respect. There you go, but I've been watching you for years man, I've been watching you before I moved to New York

before I did comedy all over YouTube. Thank you, brother. Hey, you got it. Good to finally talk. to you. Yeah. Thanks, man. Bye, everyone. So really, I'm adding a bunch of stuff, guys, but I'm also going to take a little time off the road after I tape this special. So come see me in L.A. Netflix is a joke fest, May 7th at, I can't read where I am right there. It says the United Theater on Broadway. United Theater. I'm with Jordan Jensen, Joe List, and

Rachel Feinstein. It's going to be a really cool show. It's a lot of fun. And it's going to be great. And then I'll be in Lisbon, the end of August. But, you know, all of this is, I'm going to add a few more things. I'm probably going to do another Europe tour different places I hit them last time. I'm going to keep it kind of like. I need to live a little. I need to create the new hour. As Chris Rock has said to us, you've got to

live life to have shit to write about. Take the foot off the gas a little and then hopefully we're filming a fucking movie. Hopefully. Hopefully. God damn it. Takes forever these execs. All right, Buffalo, New York. That's going to sell out. So come on by. Go bills.

Portland, Maine. Already sold out. Providence, Rhode Island, the Veterans Memorial Auditor. One of the great theaters. Beautiful, beautiful theater. Sorry about the shooting. Kentucky, Lexington, love this club, too. Comedy Off Broadway, Fort Lauderdale at the Improv, Danya Beach, and Chattanooga. We just added the Walker Theater, which is a great theater.

I love that town. Chattanooga. I love Chattanooga. Great city. Good nights in Raleigh, going back to the clubs. I'll be at the Comedy Store in the Netflix Fest as well. and what is that? Ontario,

Nouveau, Brunswick, in Canada, Spokane and Philadelphia, to name a few. I haven't plugged this in a few weeks. I've got to get back on track, the threesome tracker. I have not really tried.

I've got to get back out there. I've been busy. I've been busy running this special. I've been living in fucking... Yeah, we've got to get on it. Keep us posted. I'll keep you posted. As Gary Vee said,

Page Stage is a great idea. It's available on Punch Up Live. That's true. Two episodes on there right now. You can go get it for like three bucks each. That's a good point. And the Epstein specials up there. And get some bodega.

I've been in the liquor game for 30 years. So tell a friend. See you guys next week. I got a piss. Me too. Sunday's a day. I've had a living. And Norman's talking shit about the fucking home.

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