We Need To Talk with Paul C. Brunson - "I've Reversed My BBL!" We're Talking Cosmetic Surgery

Episode Date: March 12, 2026

Chloe Ferry opens up about the reality behind her cosmetic surgery journey - from breast implants and a BBL to the pressure that drove her to keep changing her appearance. She reflects on body image, ...social media scrutiny, and the toll chasing perfection took on her mental health. Now reversing procedures and focusing on therapy and self-love, Chloe shares why she’s determined to rediscover who she really is. We're Talking Cosmetic Surgery Sponsored by: Saily - Download from the app store and use code WNTT at checkout for 15% off. For more details: https://saily.com/wntt ⛵ (00:00) Intro (00:40) Chloe Takes Paul Through the Cosmetic Procedures She's Done (02:25) The Danger of BBLs (04:55) How Did Chloe Feel After Each Procedure? (07:35) When Did Chloe Decide She Wanted to Reverse Her BBL? (10:20) Does Chloe Feel Comfortable in Herself? (12:00) Saily Ad (15:22) How Does Chloe Feel About the Way She Looks Now? (17:14) How Chloe Is Changing What She Puts Out on Social Media (23:21) How Chloe Feels About Her Influence on Young Women Through Geordie Shore (26:38) Does Chloe Have Any Other Surgeries Planned? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 You said this place was steps from the water. We just haven't found the steps yet. How much did we save? Enough. Enough to get lost! Or you could book a stay with Hilton. Welcome to your oceanfront room. Just steps from the water.
Starting point is 00:00:16 The Hilton sale is on now. Book on Hilton.com or the Hilton app and save up to 20% to get the stay you expected. When you want savings, not surprises. It matters where you stay. Hilton, for the stay. Welcome to We're Talking. In this honest conversation, Chloe Ferry opens up about her journey with cosmetic surgery,
Starting point is 00:00:38 discussing everything from breast implants to BBLs and the emotional toll of constantly chasing perfection. This week, we're talking cosmetic surgery. You know, can we talk about the surgeries? Yes. You've been open about the surgeries. And this is one where I think it's incredibly important because we're, We're seeing a massive increase in the amount of surgeries that everyone's getting, but in particular young women are getting because we see the averages roughly between the ages of 19 and 40.
Starting point is 00:01:23 So at 19. That's how old I was, 19. All right. So what, and I have a list of these. The first you mentioned is there were comments around breasts. So you thought, okay, I'm going to get breast implants. So immediately you went out. I got like an uplift.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Okay. It got an uplift because obviously people were saying that my boobs was saggy. Okay. So you got that. Then you, then there's more comments coming in. More comments, yeah. And it was just constantly about me looks. And this is like the society that we're living because it was never good.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Never you've got a nice heart or you're beautiful. It was always negative about my appearance. Yes. So then from there, rhinoplasty. Yeah. Nosejob. Liposuction. So like a BBL.
Starting point is 00:02:12 So a BBL is basically fat transfer where they take the fat from your stomach and put it in your bum because I used to always get told that I had like a flat bum. And like if you think that I woke up and thought that I looked good and I was happy about my decisions,
Starting point is 00:02:25 I was never. It was like, surgery is like such a dark hole and this is why I want to like make people away especially if you're young. Like please, please think about getting surgery because like you'll end up like me. Like I want to go back to that girl, that picture.
Starting point is 00:02:40 I would literally give all my money now in my bank just to be that girl again because it is just such a dark hole surgery. Now, who was I doing it in press? These people that I'm never going to meet. These people aren't paying me bills and it wasn't making me happy. And then also the danger of it.
Starting point is 00:02:57 So let's look at BBLs for a second because the cost, okay, the cost for a BBL in the UK averages around 7,500 pounds. But in Turkey, 2,600 pounds. However, the risk of death in BBL surgery is 10 times higher than other cosmetic surgeries.
Starting point is 00:03:22 So you think about how incredibly dangerous it is. So what exactly is a BBL? And why do you think it's so dangerous? I didn't go into, like, when I was getting this work done, I didn't think about like how dangerous it was. I think I was just in such a negative mindset about myself that at this point, because I was looking for perfection in myself, and all these comments were getting to ways,
Starting point is 00:03:44 I would have went to any extreme to make myself feel better. So I didn't actually think as a young girl that the dangers of how bad it can be. Like it can be life-threatening. But at this age and this sort of mindset that I was in, I did not care because I was just had so much, like, my self-esteem. I just wanted, like, all these comments to go away. And I thought that getting all this work done to improve myself. would actually help it,
Starting point is 00:04:08 but in fact it made it a lot worse for us. All right. So what is the procedure? Because you said it's removal of... So they remove the fat, and then any fat that they've got, they put it in your bum and, like, your hips to give you that, like, hour glass figure.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Okay. And I was never, I was always petite. I had such a petite frame. All right. So when you got your BBL, did you say, okay, I wanted to look like this or this person over here, or you just said, Dr.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Just do it, yeah, just do it. I wasn't even thinking. I just, I didn't even see I want to, it's, I just said, just do it. That's all it was. I didn't have time to think because I was in such a, like, a bad frame of mind that I just wanted, just do it.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Just make us look perfect. I want to be perfect. Okay. But I never felt perfect. I never, I look, I would look in the mirror and think, eh, I feel like, I actually used to get told off my friends
Starting point is 00:05:01 and my family, you've got body to smoke for you. And I was like, not, I want more, I want more things done. All right. And then you continued to get more. So at least on here, so lip fillers, dermal cheek fillers, veneers. Yeah. So every time you're doing a procedure, you're just saying, doctor, get this done.
Starting point is 00:05:25 You get it done, you look in the mirror and you think what? Why have I done it? I don't feel better. You never feel better out of it from any. of those procedures. No. Just thought it's still ugly. Still was, so I'd look in the mirror
Starting point is 00:05:40 and say, well, that's next. I was pinpointing stuff about myself. And I never, like, before I got on TV, I never, ever did that. I had so much self-love. I thought I was going, I thought I was giving God, I shouldn't. Wow.
Starting point is 00:05:53 So what about, let's look at your Instagram, for example. Because your Instagram, at one point, it's full of shots of body shot. Yeah. You, you know, I was living it up, yeah. Throwing the butt out, you know.
Starting point is 00:06:12 So when you look at those photos, what do you think? Not confident at all. Not at all. Not one bit of confidence. And that's why you should never judge a book by you to cover because you never actually know what someone's actually going through. See, I never would have thought that. Never, never.
Starting point is 00:06:27 I was going through it. Like, I hated myself. Never felt pretty. No self-esteem at all. And that's why I've started to be a lot more transseeing. parent on my Instagram about obviously surgeries and like all the lumps and bumps and bumps were happening with my body and like
Starting point is 00:06:41 I feel like now because I'm entering this new era and I'm on this journey like beauty comes within and I've realized that it does not matter what you look like at all and that's why I'm just doing like so much to myself and self-love because I just want to be I want to feel normal again that I'm so far away from where
Starting point is 00:06:58 I want to be to that picture that you showed is but I know I'm going to get there yes yes going back to the beauty see I never ever would have thought that you were not proud of at least the BBL. No. I felt like that was like that was part of what you were known for. And when I look at the press, typically this is what you see on the presses.
Starting point is 00:07:22 You'll see you'll see you in, you know, a bikini, etc. So there is, you're saying there is no point where you felt comfortable, happy with any of those procedures? The BBL was definitely the biggest mistake out of all the surgeries that I got. The biggest mistake. And why is that? Just I looked like I didn't look normal.
Starting point is 00:07:47 I didn't look. Everything was just, I just, my body shape wasn't me. That's what made us look totally different was my BBL. And I was known for, I don't want to be known for having a big ass. I don't want to be known for a BBL.
Starting point is 00:08:00 I want to be known for like Chloe being like amazing and down to worth and having a good heart. I don't be known for having a big ass. Okay. So now at what point do you decide that you want to reverse the BBL? When I was looking in the mirror
Starting point is 00:08:15 and I just thought, like, I don't know who you are anymore. I don't know who you are. You're nothing like the girl that first walked in that Jory Showhouse. And like, and like I said, it's my final years of being in my 20s and I really want to just be back to my normal self. I think like self-love
Starting point is 00:08:30 starting by loving yourself and looking in the mirror I didn't. Okay. Right. Because this isn't me. Like, my breast, my bum doesn't define who I am. And I think a constant reminder every day, you look in the mirror, don't you? Every day, that's just there.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Yes. So every day you're looking at yourself in the mirror. Now, what about the risk? Because we just talked about the risk of having a BBL done 10 times higher than the average cosmetic surgery. So having a reversal of it is also extremely dangerous. So did you contemplate that? Did you think about the risk? Yeah, obviously I thought about the risk,
Starting point is 00:09:10 but the person, I did a lot of research. Like the doctor that I went to is done so many. And a lot of people that have come from Turkey and who've had botched jobs. So obviously I did think about it for a very, very long time. And the main thing that I did, I sat with me thoughts, which I want to get across. Like if any younger girls are thinking about getting surgery,
Starting point is 00:09:27 don't just go ahead with it. Don't just straightway go. Like, think sit with your thoughts, talk to your friends, talk to your family, do your research. search, that's the main thing. And so when I did finally come to the decision, I just know this is, this is like on the path. This is where I want to go. This is the journey that I'm, this is like the start of it. Yes. So you decide to get it done. Do you, are, are you all thinking what the
Starting point is 00:09:50 impact is going to be? Well, I wasn't even going to go public about it, to be honest, because some people were saying go public and some people said, like, don't. But I've, what I love about myself is that I've always been very transparent with my audience. So like, a lot of people in the public eye, like if they get something done, they don't ever, like, tell anyone about, sorry, excuse me. So a lot of people who in the public eye don't really, like, tell about it. But I thought, to be honest, like, I've always had, like, I've always been transparent with my audience, and I thought, I feel like this will open a new kind of worms for it. So I'm going to like, look, I've made a mistake, I hold my hands up, I'm getting it
Starting point is 00:10:22 reversed and I want to just go back to be normal, like, surgery isn't everything. Like, I think, like, a lot of people search for clarification and search of beauty in surgery when beauty actually generally comes within. Yes, it does. It does. A hundred percent, it does. It does. Like your aura, like your energy, like your personality.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Like that's where your beauty comes from. Yes. I also think what's very important, and this is more so about self-esteem. And I see this is where you're moving, is that you no longer need external validation. Right. So the moment that you realize,
Starting point is 00:10:56 I'm comfortable in who I am, and I'm comfortable in all. other people being uncomfortable with who I am. And that I'm okay with. And if I'm okay with that, typically means I have a higher self-esteem. Yeah. And it seems like you're moving to a place
Starting point is 00:11:12 where you are comfortable with people being uncomfortable with who you are. Yeah, yeah, and that's where I want to get. I feel like I'm such a people-pleaser and I have been for a very, very long time. I feel uncomfortable in certain situations and stuff. And like, that's the main thing that I want to achieve. Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:29 but you're achieving it and I think this journey that you're on do you realize how many how proud people who love you are about this journey that you're on no yeah I've actually been reading some of the comments and everyone's been lovely I think everyone's just like
Starting point is 00:11:45 basically be everyone's been saying like thank you for being so honest like because a lot of people struggle with obviously like self-esteem mental health and I think it's so good that I can actually be transparent with my audience and people be like good because I'm just so you're to be getting negative and how ugly I am, how much surgery.
Starting point is 00:12:02 So it's actually so refreshing and nice to actually have people be like, Chloe, like, this is amazing. We love this vulnerable side, which I've hit for so long because I've had a mask on. For so long, I've been trying to chase, like, this person who I'm not for so long now. So, like, it's like, fuck, I'm starting to be comfortable, like, in your own skin. Yes. Can anyone tell me why roaming fees are always so expensive? I feel like every time I get back from travelling overseas,
Starting point is 00:12:29 I'm hit with a jaw-dropping phone bill. It's actually why I'm excited to try our new partner, Saly, an ESIM app that gives you a safe and secure data connection anytime you travel, and, most importantly, without any expensive roaming charges. Now, quite a few of my team use Saly during our last trip to L.A., and all accounts were that it was reliable and easy to set up. Saly is available in over 200 destinations,
Starting point is 00:12:54 and it comes with built-in security features like web protection and ad blockers. The stuff you don't typically think about, but actually, when you're traveling, is really important to keep your data protected. But the part that really pulls me in is that I can change my online location to the UK. So even if I'm somewhere else, any location blocked content is still accessible. To give it a try, download Saly from the App Store or scan the QR code on the screen. And if you want 15% off your first purchase, make sure you use my code, WNTT at checkout. at checkout. Details are in the episode description. For me
Starting point is 00:13:32 now that I'm older and I've been through it all with flux and surgery and hair and lashes and nails, I think the main thing, I think beauty, which I think needs to be more established now, especially that everyone's coming to influence as beauty comes within and it shouldn't be about what someone looks like
Starting point is 00:13:48 especially when you get older. Like I don't care at all. Like I have, like take me as an example, I have been through it all to try and look this perfection state and now all I want to do, is go back to that young girl. So surely if I'm not an example, I don't know who is. Like, and I think if you are feeling a certain type of way
Starting point is 00:14:05 about yourself, try and work on it rather than straight away going to surgery, because if I could go through this again and be young, I wish I had someone saying, work on yourself, please, don't just do this, you're beautiful. But at that time, like mental health and psychs and stuff wasn't really a massive, massive thing. So if I could turn back time, I wish I had someone there and just kept the normal mate,
Starting point is 00:14:25 because I feel like now I would have been, in a lot of a different mindset because now I've spent most of my 20s chasing someone that I'm not, trying to look for this, look at this, who is this girl? Do you know what I mean? Now I've got to spend ages working on myself.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Obviously I know it's a good thing because I'm gonna find me 100% myself, but I've wasted all of my 20s, chasing this perfection girl who I don't even know to fit other people's standards. So I've wasted my life essentially. You feel that way. Olivia Rodrigo.
Starting point is 00:14:58 The Unravel Tour. Live across North America with special guests. Get tickets Thursday, May 7th at Olivia Rodrigo.com. Wishing you could be there live for the big game, soaking up the atmosphere in the crowd. But too often, life gets busy. Or the price holds you back. Priceline is here to help you make it happen.
Starting point is 00:15:23 With millions of deals on flights, hotels, and rental cars, you can go see the game live. Don't just dream about the trip. Book it with Priceline. Download the Priceline app or visit Priceline.com. Actual prices may vary, limited time offer. Yeah, yeah, no, I have, yeah, because I have, because I've been getting so much stuff done
Starting point is 00:15:44 to make it look like who I wasn't born to be. Like, who does that? With me, of course. I've done it. But I want to erase it now. Just so I can just be myself. That's all I want. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Yeah, so then you're 30s, this is why you're like, 30s is your time. It's my, that is my time. Watch the globe on. Watch my globe. I am going to be the best version of myself. And that's all I want to be. Because, like, Paul, I've got such an amazing, I never rape myself, but I know for a fine fact I've got a good personality
Starting point is 00:16:16 and I've got a good heart and I can make anyone laugh. Like, I just want to be funny old Chloe, who doesn't care what she looks like, because that's where my happiness is, is making people laugh. All right, so Chloe, you say you have a great personality. I am a bit funny, I know, yeah. Yeah, a little bit, yeah. So if you are rating your personality, what do you rate your personality? I'd say 10 out of 10 if I'm on it.
Starting point is 00:16:38 No, no one's a 10, actually, let's be fair. I'd say 8.5. 8.5? Yeah, I know that I'm a good energy to be around when I'm at my best. All right, so this one will be harder for you. How do you think you look? I'd say 5. Say 5 out of 10 at the minute, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:56 I don't feel the best today. You think you were a five out of ten? Yeah, I think that's quite fair. Halfway. Are you serious? No, I'd say about a five. I'll say five. I'll say five. Five point seven.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Okay. Is that up or down from how you felt last year? Yeah, it's God, last year I'd say about a three. But you would never know, wouldn't have never known that because I feel like when I'm putting these sexy pictures and stuff around social media, I'm doing bikini pictures. Maybe that's just a cover up. Maybe that's a cover, maybe that's trying to, like,
Starting point is 00:17:30 show the audience or my social media followers like pretending that, like, this is the perfect girl. I don't know, that's something that I'm trying to figure out because you, like you've said, you would have actually never known that I felt like this. No. Like, if you look on my Instagram, you would think I'm the most confident person ever,
Starting point is 00:17:47 but I wasn't. I used to, like, if you look at it as filming and stuff, like I'll always cover up, like I'll cover my bomb and stuff like that. But if I'm on Instagram, I can hide it because I can stretch out, I can get the best, and stuff like they're like trying hide my bumps,
Starting point is 00:17:59 my lumps, my salulite, my back fat. And now I'm like, I'm getting at the point now where posting the picture of my salulite now, getting my bum reduced is like going in the right step of being me. Yes. Because I don't care. So I'm bothered about someone saying a bit of back fat
Starting point is 00:18:14 or I'm bothered about someone saying a bit of salivite. What? Yes. Why? Yeah. That's why I think what you're doing is so courageous and important because you're normalizing normal bodies. or, you know, cellulite, you're, you know, back fat, etc.
Starting point is 00:18:32 So as you think about even how you manage your social media, I'm changing it. It's all starting to change now. Okay. How so? My post. So like I'm posting now more realistic posts. So like I opened up the other day about, I wasn't going to do it.
Starting point is 00:18:46 I was really apprehensive. Like I said, going back, I get nervous about being honest because I just, I don't want to have backlash because I don't want to go back to a dark, dark place again. But I thought, you know what it is. is I'm gonna just be transparent with my audience. So one thing about me is like I'm very honest with stuff like this, so I thought I'm gonna do it and I've had a really good response.
Starting point is 00:19:03 So I thought I'm gonna just start, like to start loving myself again, show people what I feel a bit unconfident about. Like obviously my saliolite and stuff like that. So I post that yesterday and I feel better. I would always hide. I always edit my pictures, I'd smooth out my skin. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:19:18 Yeah, yeah, all the time. I always getting an angle where like I'm stretched out like that just so like I look like long and slim. But now it's just like I'm gonna start posting like organic content and not giving the fuck about getting on face, that face true, make me waste smaller. Did you do that? Yeah?
Starting point is 00:19:33 Really? Yeah, yesterday. This is a correct. What percentage of, you know, celebs do you think are doing this? I think not even about just celebs, I think the full of, I think even younger girls as young as 15, 16, 17, and even doing this now.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Is there, so this is just, this is terrible, right? This is terrible. No, yeah, yeah, it is, because it's like, you put, you posting it and like, yeah, you might think it looks good, but deep down, that's not you. Right. So this is what I'm thinking,
Starting point is 00:20:00 like the right step in the right direction for me is to start admitting my flaws, stuff that like I am insecure about, shown that vulnerable side. And so like I put a post on yesterday about like my salulite on my legs, which I've always been really conscious about. Like if I was in a bikini,
Starting point is 00:20:14 I would have a caftan on because I was embarrassed. So I think the right step for me is getting out there. That's me, that's who I am. And if you're gonna judge you for satellite, then you're not supposed to be around us. Do you know what I mean? Right. It's 90% of you're,
Starting point is 00:20:26 percent of women have cellulite and cellulite is so normal. Apparently if you have cellulite, it's because you're a better person, I have a better time and fun. Oh really? Apparently I don't, someone said that, but I don't know if it's true. So if you have no cellulite... You're boring. You're boring. I'm all the girls, but no salulite, you're boring. I'm joking. E. Go on, I hope I don't believe that. Oh, my God. All right, so then, are you now saying that you will not edit any of your photos going forward? I'm going to try to. I'm not going say never because obviously I'm still quite insecure I'm still trying to find myself I'm on
Starting point is 00:20:56 this journey but I'm trying as much not to like yesterday didn't edit my body at all and that's a step in the right direction of me take baby steps yes walk before you can run yes do you think that not editing is going to impact television projects influence or work I want I want new work I want new dreams I want that I don't like I said I don't want to just be known for Chloe Ferry drunk on TV, kick off Chloe, because that's not me. Like, this is my new era. Not only am I working on myself,
Starting point is 00:21:28 I want new work opportunities. I really, this next two year, want to just expand. Yes. And just live my life and not live my life and, like, someone else's body, basically. Right. But I think that so many people
Starting point is 00:21:42 want the procedures, want the look, because they know that's going to help them to actually make more money on television or through influencer work. So is that, something that you're concerned about that you will you could potentially make less yeah so hopefully like my story and being honest and vulnerable with you today is actually like people go
Starting point is 00:22:02 well actually if she's had that much work done and just try to change herself that much and she's still not happy and she's in a bit of a bad place then surely i need to look at myself and actually take some more time and talk to me friends and family and think do i actually need this done yes like you know what i mean and i hope that i can help younger girls because i wish that i had the advice of someone when I was young saying this because maybe I might have listened. Okay. Now, do you believe there's ever a time to actually get surgery, to get cosmetic surgery? Is it ever warranted? It all depends on, it all depends on yourself, to be honest, because if you're really, really insecure about something, even just for example, if you're not
Starting point is 00:22:41 on the public eye, like if you're really insecure about something that's really, really getting you down and you think it's going to make you feel better, then maybe. But I can't speak for other people obviously it's totally on them but like I said if you are a person and you are thinking about getting surgery and you aren't secure about something don't rush into it
Starting point is 00:22:58 please do your research please ask your friends ask your family your family are going to be honest but your family aren't going to lie to you so just for example if you feel like your boobs are flat or you have got a big nose like say to your family
Starting point is 00:23:10 do you think I need this done but your family are going to probably say no anyway but just always sit with your thoughts and don't rush into anything like I did I always say that you know our village is really our superpower. And we don't realize it. When we have friends and family who truly love us and adore us, that's where we go.
Starting point is 00:23:30 And I always say, look at what the consensus says. It's the same thing with relationships. It's like if you have a partner, say you have a boyfriend, right, and you bring your boyfriend to your friends and family and he meets everyone, he spends time with everyone, and you sit them all down, 11, 12 of your family down, and you say, what do you think about my boyfriend? Yeah. I guarantee you if the majority of them say leave him, you should leave him. Yeah, 100%.
Starting point is 00:23:54 I totally agree. 100%. Yeah. So it's the same thing. I think you're saying the same thing was when it comes to procedures. You know, rely on the feedback of your friends and family. Yeah, definitely. I think that's the most important because your friends and your family,
Starting point is 00:24:08 your true friends and family will not lie to you. Yes. They will not. Yeah, definitely not. They will not. And also, I think about this as well. Like if I was to have kids now and I could imagine my daughter, this to us that I'm going to get this done myself,
Starting point is 00:24:21 I'd be absolutely devastated. I'd be absolutely heartbroken. That me don't, I wanted to change her looks because I would think me don't I was absolutely beautiful. So then on that note, this is an important question. What do you say to all the young girls
Starting point is 00:24:36 who watch Chloe Ferry on Jordy Shore and looked up and said, I want breasts like that. I know. Or I want a butt. I know, I know. And that's devastating. and then I've like done that to myself
Starting point is 00:24:51 because I do know that people do look up to us, I don't know why, like, but people do, like they do look up to us and I think I would hate to ever influence anyone to get cosmetic surgery because of me and that's why I wanna just like step away from it. I've made, listen, I hold my hands up, I've made a mistake, I got surgery
Starting point is 00:25:07 and I'm massively regret it. If I could turn back time, I would, but it's only because I was so insecure about the way I looked and because I was getting pinpointed as a young girl about the way I looked and I felt ugly. I had no self-esteem, no confidence, and I was in a position to change,
Starting point is 00:25:19 change it and I wish that I didn't it's a mistake and the thing is you can't ever regret mistakes because or lessons because you always learn from it yes and that's what I've just need to like remember because if I don't think like that I'm going to just dive down right everything's a step in stone yeah yeah but there's the new Chloe new Chloe and I'm excited to meet her are you oh my God I've already met her I knew I knew her I could tell you I could pinpoint the moment. So we were in the mansion. There was one moment where you came in. It was Anne and myself, we were talking to you. And it was the first time that you talked about, of all things, ice skating. Yes. And you walked out of the room and I said to Anne. I said, oh, my God,
Starting point is 00:26:04 like, she's, she's, and I think I use the word, she's actually brilliant. Yeah. And it was one of those where I realized you were so much more than the person that you were presented. Yes, 100%. And then I felt bad. Yeah, because a lot of people obviously do judges, which is life. People do, yeah. It actually, I mean, I should say I felt bad for the judge. It wasn't for the judge.
Starting point is 00:26:27 I felt bad because I felt like you were intentionally playing small. What do you mean? I felt like you were intentionally playing this role of, oh, yeah, yeah, I'm kickoff, Chloe. And there was so much more for you to give. Yes. But it's almost, and I don't want to say this is what you did, my impression was that you knew what, you know, the UK knew what the UK knew what the UK knew for.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Yeah. And you said, I'm going to deliver it on this show. And I'm not going to give you all of these other things. Like here's this little sliver of my life. This is what I'm going to give you. But my life is so expansive. There's so many things that I love and I enjoy and who I am. And you reduced all of that just to give us this little bit. and that's when I said I felt sad. And that stood with me. And from that moment, I said, you know what, I'm going to keep my eye on her because there will be a time where she no longer wants to play small. And there will be a time
Starting point is 00:27:30 where she's grown out of this. And this is exactly where you are now. Yeah, I definitely agree. I'm grown out of it, aren't I? I'm ready for new things and new beginnings. I'm ready to be the best version of myself. Yes. And I know what's coming, Paul, it's all.
Starting point is 00:27:46 I'm struggling. I'm up and down like a roller coaster, but I know there's going to be light at the end of the tunnel. And you know what it is? It's powerful. Yes. I'm a boss, bitch.
Starting point is 00:27:56 You are. All right. So then on that note, are there any other surgery plans? Because it seems as if you have lots of procedures, but now it's almost like we've started the reversal. Reverse, yeah. So are there any other plants?
Starting point is 00:28:14 So because I'm so, I feel so much more in proportion I do feel like myself a lot more than what I did with my bum Like I am thinking about doing something else as well But obviously like I said I'm waiting for a bit I'm going to speak my friends and family about it And then like who knows, I might be like Molly May I'm joking, yeah, I would love to I just I want to go like hopefully one day like fully back to natural
Starting point is 00:28:40 Okay But I'm just taking each step as it comes All right. Totally natural, 100%. I'll probably keep a little bit lip fill out, I'll be honest, because I had bum hole lips. Like, when I smiled, it was just gum. So I think I'll probably keep a bit fill out,
Starting point is 00:28:53 I'll be honest, Christ, we'll not go all the way. But I think when I've like obviously healed and stuff from my bum, and then maybe I might go for the next step. Okay. Breasts. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Not saying I'm not happy with my breasts, but if I'm on this sort of journey now, why not just go the full shumonti? Why not? Why not? I've never heard of bumhole. No, that's bumhole lips. Bumhole lips.
Starting point is 00:29:19 That was one of the comments. That's something, I know I can laugh about it now because it doesn't affect it as much. But so when you say I've got bumble whole lips. So you used to say when I used to smile, I just had gum, because I had no lips. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:29:31 These are the comments. Yes, so I saw the word, like, that's quite funny bumhole lips, but it's like, yeah, basically that. Wild. You should, honestly, some of the messages I get, like, not even about that. Like, some messages I get,
Starting point is 00:29:42 Paul, I wouldn't even want to say it on here. Yeah. I mean, it's the fact that people, I mean, I know that we're going to wrap, but the fact, like, I've never understood someone who, like the psychology of someone who will spend time, go on to your, say, Instagram page, find a post. Yeah, and comment. And comment negatively or send you a direct message. I know. I never understand. bill. Yeah, we've been hearing that a lot. Good news. Bring your AT&T or T mobile bill to Verizon and we'll give you a better deal. So get away from that unfortunate phone bill and get to Verizon. Run, ride, canoe. Whatever it takes, we'll be here. Bring your AT&T or T mobile bill to a Verizon store today and we'll give you a better deal on the best network on the best on the best network on the best overall network. That's Verizon. Best Network based on root metrics, best overall mobile network performance U.S. second half 2025. All rights reserved. It must provide a recent consumer mobile bill in the name of the person, redeeming me the deal. Additional terms, conditions, and restrictions apply. to the coast in Abercrombie's latest summer drop. It's short season and their new C-Fade shorts add the perfect wash look to your fit. They're so easy to throw on and pair with everything in your closet. Complete the look with a new shirt and your set.
Starting point is 00:30:59 Prep for summer with Abercrombie in the app online and in stores. As well, you never ever do. When I look I think, but you know what it is, Paul? It's more on them because they must, could you imagine going on someone's picture and going, you're disgusting you. I don't have time and, In fact, I actually, I'm so focused on myself now. I don't care what you're doing, quite frankly. I'm on my own path. So these people must be just sat at home with the 10 cats
Starting point is 00:31:27 and let me just think to make them feel better. So it says more about them, that's what I think. I think they're so low and they've got no self-esteem and they choose not to work on their self. And that's where they're going wrong. They're the insecure people. And that's what I figured out. But back then, when I was low
Starting point is 00:31:41 and I needed all this clarity for all this surgery, I didn't know that. But now because I'm so much more different to what I was then, If I knew that information, then I wouldn't have got the surgery. But now I'm so much more educated on everything now. Yep. And if you want to hear the full, unfiltered stories from today's guest, you can check them out on the We Need to Talk page.
Starting point is 00:32:01 Drop a like, leave a comment, and hit subscribe. See you next week.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.