We Need To Talk with Paul C. Brunson - “Nick Told Me To Do the Show!” Bre Tiesi on Fame, Motherhood & Reality TV | We’re Talking

Episode Date: November 20, 2025

With the return of Selling Sunset, Paul sits down with Bre Tiesi for a candid conversation about fame, motherhood and the honest thoughts about reality TV. Bre opens up about being thrust into the spotlight, the challenges of being known as “Nick Cannon’s baby mama,” her fight to be respected in luxury real estate, and how she built confidence in an industry dominated by men. Bre also reflects on the intense backlash, the friendships that didn’t last, and the inner strength that’s carried her from her toughest years to taking centre stage on one of Netflix’s biggest shows. We’re Talking: Selling Sunset (00:00) Intro (00:33) How Bre Joined *Selling Sunset* (01:22) Revealing Bre and Nick's Relationship to the Public (02:03) How Bre Got Into Real Estate (03:37) Gender Disparity in Real Estate (04:46) Bre's First Big Listing (05:43) Why Bre Joined *Selling Sunset* Shortly After Giving Birth (07:12) Bre’s Thoughts on Public Reaction to Her (09:25) Was Bre Targeted Because of Her Relationship With Nick Cannon? (12:48) How Bre Feels After 3 Years on the Show (15:15) Bre's Future Plans Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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So now you have a child, and then you immediately decide to enter what has become one of the most watch top-rated shows out there. Selling Sunset, how do you even get that opportunity? They had asked me a few times previously, and I wasn't interested. I was very much in my, like, I'm living my life, and nobody really knows about my relationships. I do what I want to do. I was still private, for the most part. And even with Johnny, I still maintained a lot of privacy. And it wasn't really until I got outed for my pregnancy that I was like, well, fuck it.

now everything is out. Let's just embrace it. Let's just do it. Because when you say you got outed is that you and Nick were attempting to keep that private. I was. You were? I was because I had kind of seen what had happened with other people and involved. And I was like, you know what? I've worked so hard. I don't need, I don't need this. And, you know, it was more of like my own personal decision. And there was a part of me that was like, when it's time, I will come out with it for legendary, but in this moment, I don't think it's necessary. And I don't need any added stress, and I don't need any of these things, and I don't need opinions, and I don't need any of it. I definitely don't, like, I don't owe anyone anything. And at this time, it's when people were

really going hard on the internet. And I was like, I can just skip all of this. Just keep my peace. Just keep it. Have you started real estate as well? Yes. Okay. Yes. And I was just doing, like little things here and there. And then probably 20, so 2022, I sold Ben Simmons's house and then I went on from there. Okay. It's like doing big deals. Like I did like leases and whatever else before. It seems like to me, you fell into real estate because you had all of these incredible contacts. Yes. You knew you had these skills around people skills and communication skills. It feels like really, especially luxury real estate is the perfect fit. Absolutely. So you just kind of fell into it.

Yeah. All right. Basically. And because when I worked in the clubs, like clients would come in from Europe, they come in from wherever and they'd be like, oh, we need a house in L.A. Like, I'd meet them in Vegas, but they'd be going to L.A. And I'd be like, oh, okay, I got somebody there. And over time, I was like, why am I sending people and not making money on this?

And I was like, how do I make money on this? So then I was like, okay, I can get my license and then I can do, if it's a, you know, $50,000 a month house, you're still getting commission on that. Yes. So, you know, three months, whatever they, they think. signed for you're still getting a couple thousand dollars at bare minimum so I was like no this has to go back into my pocket and then that's kind of how I started it but then when I wanted to make the shift I was like okay I need much bigger money than leases like this is the story of

your life I need more I need more always and which is kind of a bad thing but like I'm like if I can I can do it so like I'm going to do it because there's a lot of people that can't do it and don't have the opportunity so I'm going to take every single one of them but can we speak about this because in this research, I was doing a ton of research, and I saw that roughly 63% of real estate agents are women. However, in terms of real estate executives, especially in the luxury space, very, very small percentage are represented in terms of women.

I mean, there's a million of reasons as to why that is. But why do you believe that is that way today? I believe it's a boy's world. Men have more opportunity. They have more immediate respect. they are the ones that the women are not going to be threatened by. We always get that like, oh, well, she's just a girl. Like, people downplay it.

And they don't give you the credit that you deserve, especially if you're attractive. And it's just like this boys club that is like impenetrable. And that was my main focus. I was like, how do I get in here? I was like, let me find my place. So when everyone was like, oh, she's a hoe or she's this, like, I was with the boys because I was a part of the boys. I wasn't like, you know, the girl, the whole friend that they brought with them. Like, I really made a name for myself and I was respected by the men to be able to play with the big boys.

And they were all trying to bully me. There's very, very big agents in L.A. Like, top of the top that most people would be like, I don't want to piss them off. Let me just say yes and give her a piece. I was like, fuck no. Wow. And this is your first deal. Yeah.

I did not care. I said, no, you're not. This was half a million dollars. In commission. In commission. People have to kill me for this. Can you say, what was the listing? What was the?

It was 17.5. 17.5 million was the cost of the home. Yes. Half a million in commission. Yes. I said, you're going to pry it out of my dead hands because you're not getting it. I'm never giving it to you. I've worked my ass off for this.

This is my client. This is my friend. He trusts me. Absolutely not. And they bullied me to the last day of escrow. They were like, we'll get her to fold. Good luck. So 2021.

First real estate deal. half a million, right, in commission. You do very well on commissions and tips. Yeah. This is for sure. Yeah. Definitely. So this is 2021.

But then you were talking about with selling sunset, they must, because you went to work fairly quickly after giving birth, six weeks. Six weeks. So they must have been talking to you early. Yeah. We're offering you early. Yeah. So I made the decision when I was still pregnant.

My producer always tells this story. I came in with my belly out in this crazy outfit and he was like, she's going to be bold and I was dying. I was like, what? You don't like my outfit? But yeah, it was probably, I was like nine months pregnant. I'm about to have the baby any day and I was taking my last meeting

with production and Netflix before I decided. To do it. But what gives you, why do you go forward with that? Because I would imagine you. Yeah, Nick was like, you should do it. Why not? And I was like, are you sure? I should do this?

I don't know. It's a reality show. I don't know. We sat down and washed it together. And like, at the time, it wasn't as dark. and crazy as it's gotten. It was way more like dumb surface level drama. And I was like, oh, I could do this.

Okay. Okay, cool. And I felt good. And then I got there and I was like, are you guys all unhinged? What is this? Like, this is horrific. It's not what you thought it was.

Absolutely not. And I don't know why my season was the turning point. But I was like, okay, well, I'm already here. So now what? Now I just got to figure it out. So you go into a tornado. Yes. Yeah.

Okay, because, all right, so we'll call it a tornado. I don't even know what it was. But then also, you're a new mom at the same time. Yeah. You're navigating all the things that the press is saying about you. You still have all that hate, you know, a hate cloud around you. Oh, yeah. So who do you have in your life that's supporting you?

Yeah, I mean, no one really. I mean, I kind of did. Like, I had my best friend, Erica. But she also has her family and her daughter. And, you know, it's like, I distanced myself for most of my friends because none of them really had kids. And I was, like, kind of okay with my mom, but, like, I was just kind of, like, allowing it because Nick wanted me to. And he was like, give her a chance. Maybe she'll be better.

And I was like, no, she won't, but okay. And, you know, I had my grandma. It was a very dark year for me, for sure, because it's like I'm taking this huge stride in being a mom and not knowing what the fuck I'm doing. And now I've been thrown into the public eye where everyone was. like attacking me as Nick Cannon's baby mama and it's this and it's that and then I got this fucking crazy girl on the show attacking me and like everywhere I go I'm like bro can I just take a nap I'm tired I'm fully breastfeeding I breastfed him for a year so it's like in between scenes and like while I'm driving there and back and like I didn't have a night nurse so I was up with him

all night by myself and like I didn't want one because I felt I'm breastfeeding what's the point she's just going to wake me up anyways and you know I went straight from work straight into mommy mode and it was just it was hard it was really fucking hard and I'll imagine there's also the unknown as well because you shoot a show like that you don't know what's going how it's going to be edited no I didn't know I was shocked when I saw season six I was like are you guys fucking kidding me right now like what is this like you're talking shit about me the whole time you're talking about kids you're talking about Nick like all of the things you swore would never be a topic and I'm literally fighting for my life every day, at home, here, everywhere.

Like, what is wrong with you people? Like, and it's like a part of TV, but at the end of the day, it's like, this is still my real life. Right. Like, I still have to deal with this and go home. Like, I was like, you can't, like, a lot of people couldn't take what I just went through. Like, it was crazy to me. The whole experience was like, it was a lot.

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Go to LinkedIn.com slash campaign, turns the conditions apply. Do you think that on the show, that particular series, do you think that you were targeted in particular because you are Nick Cannon's baby mama. Yeah. Okay. I think originally, and I say this with love because I love the producer of our show, Adams a Genius.

However, I think originally I was placed in there as a little bit of a hype and more of like somebody that would be like an easy target without them really knowing how much fight I had in me. So I think that in that time, it was a pivotal point with Christine leaving. And I definitely have the spice and I have all of those components that people love about Christine.

I'm very different from Christine. But I think that at that time, it was like, okay, so she's going to bring what's going on right now, which is the Nick Cannon situation. She's going to bring a bunch of other things that we can kind of utilize. And instead of letting it consume me and, you know, have me flip out and do all the things that I'm sure they were hoping I would do, I did the complete opposite. And I think that without me having all the life experience that I had, that show could have ruined my life. I could have been Nicole.

Sorry, Nicole. But, you know, I was like, she did not know what she was doing. So I feel like I was set up for failure in so many ways. And it's just, you know, another testament to everything I went through was like for a reason. And I will crawl to the motherfucking top if I have to. but you're not taking me out. I will be the only person to take me out. So it was a big, it was a big lesson.

Yeah. And you say that you could have been taken out, but it feels like the masses are on your side. Like, I was shocked. I saw the people here in this office in line to meet you. So, I mean, so you flip the script. Yeah, but the thing is, is I was truly just me. And I'm very, like, take it or fucking leave it.

Like, I'm always consistent. I'm quite predictable. So it's like there's a level to that that like if you don't respect me that only says something about you. But again, you don't have to like me, but that's also being an adult. Yes, yes. Yeah. But I'm sure you feel the love. I do.

I do. And I was like so shocked and I appreciate it so much because I was nervous that they were going to, you know, take away everything that I've built and label me Nick Cannon's baby mama and this whatever. And like it's scary to go into a situation. where people can decide who you are, and they have full control over that. And once that's there, there's nothing you can do about it. And even also, that impacts your, you know, your career. My real life, my real money, my things that I'm going to do after this show is over,

like, you could really damage that. Like, I have a lot of respect for people that do TV, and I wish the internet and people had a little bit more, because these people are not just entertaining. They're giving you their life. Yes. The highs, the lows. and allowing you to just berate them

and say awful things about them and discredit them and do all of these things and still entertaining you. Yes. So it's just kind of like, you know, I don't know, I hope that eventually someday it gets a little bit better,

but at this point, you just got to have thick skin. What's interesting to me is that you have been the villain and ostracized throughout most of your life. Yeah. and you've just been on selling Sunset for how long? Well, it's four seasons now. But it's the last two years, three years.

Three years. So the last three years. So you spent the entire life being villainized. Yeah. The last three years, people are showing you love. There's still some villainizing going on. But you're starting to see that love. How does that feel to you?

I sometimes just like not even real. Like last night I gave an award away and people were like screaming. And I was like, is there something wrong? Like, what is this me? Like, it's like shocking to me because for so long, people have been like, she's such a bitch and it's this and it's that. And so it's like so freeing and so beautiful to be able to like be accepted for like who I actually am and that I get to like truly just be me.

And to have people actually like it is just crazy. So I'm like, oh, you're like, oh, really? Are you lying? Like it was so weird to me. And I still am not used to it. So, like, people come up and talk to me and they're like, I'm sure you don't want to hear this. I'm like, no, I want to hear it. Tell me.

How do you feel? And so I'm like, it's still surreal. It's just such a weird thing, honestly. I don't think I'll ever get used to it. So if you were to go back with the offer to join Selling Sunset, would you still have joined? At that time? Yes. Yeah.

I mean, I feel like everything happens for a reason. I don't ever regret anything I do. The only thing I think for me was I wish I had to be. I wish I had more time with my son. I wish I would have had a little bit more time before I started. And that's just mom guilt, which I'll have forever. So I think, but essentially, no, I never regret anything. And I stand by everything I do and all the dumb shit I say and everything else.

But I feel like that was what I was meant to do. And honestly, it was probably a blessing because I was probably too tired to cuss chill out. So honestly, it probably did me a favor. Yeah, I was like, you know what? I just need a nap. I don't care. Do you think that you two will ever reconcile? No.

Never. Never. We tried. I tried last time. And the way last season went, I'm not friends with any of them anymore. So I'm good on that. And I have so much respect for their tripod and enjoy. Okay.

I hear it. I'm like, I want no part of it. I hear it. Yeah. I hear it. I'm good. What's the future like for you? I have so many things.

I have so many. I'm opening a Pilates studio that has like child care so I can support moms and give them a place to bring their kids so that they can get in shape and mentally, physically, all of the things. I have a swim line coming out. I have a home line coming out. I have so many things that I'm working on. And I'm just going to hit that next tier every year. The next year. Next year. I need that yacht in San Troupe. That's what I can just go be with my son all summer. That's what I'm striving for. Can I say this? This is what is standing out the most to me about you. Okay. is that you are, I think, the perfect definition of knowing self-worth.

Thank you. You are. Thank you, because most people think the opposite. That has remained consistent. Yeah. From 13 years old, I want to be emancipated because I know this is not the right environment for me. Yep. To 18.

Yep. To leaving Nick. Yep. The first Nick. Yeah, exactly the first Nick. Yeah. and then the next big. Deciding to divorce how you move throughout your career.

Yeah. Even how you've decided to not engage in certain drama that happens, it's about knowing self-worth. Yeah. I think that's a massive lesson that we can take from your life. I think the lessons we can take from everyone's life. Of course. But this is really when I'm taking away.

Oh, thank you. Because I feel like the biggest narrative is these women have no self-worth and they're this and they're that. And I'm like, I don't think so at all. I don't think that's any of our narratives involved, to be honest. So that means a lot to me because I definitely know myself where that I'm not insecure and I'm not all of these things that I've been labeled due to my choice of partner. And so that's obviously a big thing for me.

So I appreciate that. You got it. You got it.