We're Here to Help - 16: Reverse Ladybugs with Pamela Martinez (aka Bayley from the WWE)

Episode Date: October 9, 2023

Jake, Gareth, and special guest Pamela Martinez (aka Bayley from the WWE) talk to a caller about about an issue with a soccer team. Later, Jake and Gareth talk to someone who’s unsure if th...ey should come clean to a close friend.  Want to call in? Email your question to helpfulpod@gmail.com. If you’re enjoying the show, make sure to rate We’re Here to Help 5-Stars on Apple Podcasts. Follow the show on Instagram @HereToHelpPod and TikTok also at @HereToHelpPod See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 all right jake jake johnson carith reynolds we are doing it again how you doing buddy i'm good Right, Jake, Jake Johnson. Gareth Reynolds. We are doing it again. How you doing, buddy? I'm good, how are you? Good, where are you? I'm in Lafayette, Indiana, which is gorgeous. How about doing a stop by a Bloomington? It's so funny because after the show,
Starting point is 00:00:44 I did a live dollop last night, and after the show, we do like, you know, like little meet and greet things. And someone was like, is Wilhelmina here? Because I was in Bloomington. And I was like, oh, my God. I was like, I completely forgot about that. I would love to have had her there. We should have connected. We should have connected.
Starting point is 00:00:58 It was foolish. But next time. Yeah. Next time. So that's an open door policy for any fans. But we have a pretty exciting episode, Jake. We have a special guest. We do.
Starting point is 00:01:09 We've got from WWE, Bailey, a.k.a. Pamela Martinez, or Pamela Martinez, a.k.a. Bailey from the WWE. We have been in touch with each other for the last couple of years because she was a fan of New Girl and I'm a fan of hers. And so when this one came around, she excitedly jumped on and we're glad to have her. She kills it on the call. Yes.
Starting point is 00:01:35 She's a lot of fun. It's a well-suited call for her. And then we deal with a problem about honesty and friendships friendships truly uh a new truly a new one a new level for us yeah a new level of uh dumbness that turns into something bigger that's right there's a there's a good lesson to glean from this one probably about coming clean and then i also want to give a quick shout out to our social media director yeah miss who is caitlin tanwakino and she is uh crushing crushing um and people can go follow us on stuff now um at helpful pod that's our handle i believe it's the same on tiktok
Starting point is 00:02:21 yep so and that's not to be here to help pod oh sorry here to help pod here to help pod yes yes that's why i didn't do it do you see that i agreed right away though yeah i was like exactly i gotta take this loss i gotta take this loss but to give uh caitlin a nice shout out she emailed the show a couple of weeks ago and just said she was a fan and she felt like our social media was lacking. And would we trust her to take the reins? And we did. And she's killing it. So we're just here to give Caitlin a shout out and to tell her keep going.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Great job. And everybody else, give a follow over there and tell her how good she's doing because she's doing a lot of work. So follow us there. We're starting to get that all going and uh continue to share and and write in and all that stuff uh it helps but until uh next time that doesn't make sense you want to toss to the episode jake so slowly you're going to start hearing the theme song and enjoy the show hello hello how are you i'm good how are you guys good welcome to the show uh we're here to help you're on with jake johnson gareth reynolds and a very special guest from the wwe you've got bailey on the line and we are fired up to have her welcome to the show bailey
Starting point is 00:03:45 hi ding dong hello thank you for having me i'm a little nervous i might be more nervous than the caller but you know what it's okay that's when i think my clearest so we're here to help you and the caller so oh nice turn all right so caller can we get your name please yes i'm alexandra alexandra great and uh where are you calling from you're allowed to say a fake place Can we get your name, please? Yes, I'm Alexandra. Alexandra, great. And where are you calling from? You're allowed to say a fake place, but just so we can place you. I'm calling from Philly. Philly.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Nice. Great. Bailey, where are you from? San Jose, California. If I don't know why I had a weird instinct, you were going to maybe say Philly. Yeah. San Jose. San Jose.
Starting point is 00:04:24 The California Philly. Yeah, Yeah. All right. Alexander, what is your question today? So I have been on this rec soccer team for about 10 months now. And I joined through a mutual friend who is the captain of the team and we play in a co-ed league. So there are at any given time about two to three girls on the team. And I'm one of them. And throughout the past 10 months, we've been playing a game about once a week. And I just am not really feeling like a part of the team after all this time there are times where I'm the only girl and they just I don't feel like I'm getting the respect um they obviously don't pass to me and one of the other girls um it's pretty obvious i've had people i know come
Starting point is 00:05:26 and watch and they have commented on it so that's just coming for me that's amazing for people to be like hey that was really weird those uh guys never gave you the ball that was really weird exactly and we're not super close like there's not as much of a friend vibe between um at least a good half of us. Half of them are guys who all went and played soccer in high school together. So they have a very friendly dynamic. But we haven't really hung out outside of soccer. And I would like to stay on the team because I do see potential.
Starting point is 00:06:01 But so far, and it has been a while, we have not really gotten there. So I guess my problem is I want to be just respected and feel like I fit in on this team. Yeah. Well, first of all, what's the name of the team? The name of the team is Catch These Hands. I'm sorry, one more time, just so we have it clearly. It's Catch These Hands. I'm sorry, one more time, just so we have it clearly. It's Catch These Hands. Catch These Hands. And again, this is soccer?
Starting point is 00:06:30 And we have a guy on our team who will start fights, which is a whole other issue. But yeah, it's soccer. In a co-ed league. Who's the animal who's starting fights in a co-ed league? What's the animal's name? We'll call him Joe. Joe, okay.
Starting point is 00:06:45 So Joe, Fisty Joe, you're on a team called Catch These Hands. You've been on it for 10 months. Very silly. Are you any good at soccer? Or are you dog shit? Where are you at? Yeah, so that's the other thing. I'm scoring some goals. I'm getting some hits. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:07:02 You're good? This is a twist. This is a twist. It's a twist. I thought she was going to say she's dog shit. And I was going to say end of call. Get better. I'm glad we cleared that up. Yeah. I was super nervous.
Starting point is 00:07:14 And I'm like, okay, I'm actually kind of holding my own on this team. But it's also they don't pass as much. So you got to play some selfish ball. Yeah. So then there's also times where like i'll i'll assist someone and then they're high-fiving everyone on the team except the person who assisted them and that's not feeling great yeah i mean it could be they could not be passing it to you because they know how good you are and they don't want you to take their their spotlight the male ego is a jungle so it's hard to really figure out why
Starting point is 00:07:48 because there's a direct benefit if you're scoring goals and good you would think that would yeah you'd think that that would incline them to be you know even if it's for selfish reasons cool to you not that that's like the right motivation um is the your friends the captain, right? Yes. Is that a man or a woman? Man. That is a woman, which is the other thing. Yeah. The fucking captain's a lady and she's excluding you?
Starting point is 00:08:15 We just. Yeah. And Jake, you just did the thing where it was like the riddle where it's like because the doctor was the mother. You're like, wow. That's and she's sort of a little, she's excluding you a little bit as well.
Starting point is 00:08:30 So she is the leader. She kind of got these people together. I think she knew some of them from work or something. So she started the whole team. And she's very vocal on the field. She really takes charge and kind of
Starting point is 00:08:46 demands that attention yeah so they i think respect her because partly they have to because everything so do the guys pass to the captain yes good question they do are you better than wait hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. This might not be a call about sexism, Alexandra. This might be a call about you, young lady. Do you argue with people on the team? How do you feel like outside of the chemistry? Like, has anyone ever said something along the lines of like,
Starting point is 00:09:22 Jesus Christ, Alexandra, stop. Has that ever been said? No. So you're likable. I'm very. You seem very likable. I try to be. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:09:31 I got to jump in. Alexandra, I got to jump in here for a second because I'm trying to do the math on this one. I'm going to try to beautiful mind this a little bit. Yeah. Goodwill hunting it. Go for it, Jake. So you're on a team. You feel like you're being excluded. The captain's a lady and a friend.
Starting point is 00:09:50 And when everyone's given high fives, she's in those high fives. She is. Yeah. And she, she will include me more, but she's also, she's a mutual friend. So I kind of have, are you the only one being excluded? Right now, yeah, because I'm the only other girl, but I have another friend on the team who has played in previous seasons, and she has the same issues. We talk about it together. Bailey, I'm going to jump into you for a second here.
Starting point is 00:10:18 What's your first take, no even advice, just where you're at with this story? I'm so annoyed. You know, I think you need to hit us up and we need to show up to one of your games and really cheer really loud for you. Make signs for you. I like that. And show them how popular you are,
Starting point is 00:10:36 how cool you are, how good you are. By the way, I wouldn't do that with just Gareth and I because we're sissies, but if we had Bailey, I would do that for sure. Absolutely. If we come in strong. Just two guys doing it, you know, not great. I think we add Bailey to the mix.
Starting point is 00:10:51 There's a nice balance there. And then one other question for you, Alexander. You got about, what, about 14 people on the team? Right now, I think we have 11. We play 88. Now, I need a really honest assessment. Okay. Where are you at in the 11 skill-wise skill-wise you know one is one out of one is your mvp 11 out 11 is the uh weirdo who's just there to be friends and smell handing people water yeah i mean my kids just went through soccer
Starting point is 00:11:18 there's always ones just smelling grass yeah like hey hey heads up look at the ball and you're looking at it not with your hand not with your hand you're saying that a lot don't pick it up oh my god i would say in the middle maybe six six out of eleven should be getting high fives it just should i have two pitches and i'm i think we all probably i think we're all probably thinking the same with the first one reverse ladybugs right what wait Wait, reverse ladybugs? What does that mean, you weirdo? Nobody is thinking what you're...
Starting point is 00:11:49 Not one caller in the world goes, oh yeah, reverse ladybugs. Zero out of all the players. Walk us through what that madness means, you maniac. The Rodney Dangerfield, Jonathan Brandis comedy where Jonathan Brandis pretends to be a young woman and the best player on the team to why is everyone looking at me like I'm speaking Spanish you're saying she should
Starting point is 00:12:10 dress up like a guy yes oh my god fine all right I didn't think that would be a lead ball I thought we were all gonna go yeah I thought we're gonna be pitching in with like different you know mullets you could wear and stuff okay fine we Fine. We'll cut that out. But I mean, I think the captain is probably your, your path of least resistance, like figuring out a way to solve the problem via the captain. You already have a pre existing relationship. Do you and the captain hang out? I mean, what,
Starting point is 00:12:40 what level is this friendship at? We've hung out in a group setting a few times. To me, I think if it's at all possible to either meet up before a game or just go get a bite to eat or something just to strengthen that bond, that might be the best way in. Bailey, where are you at with this? What's your kind of first thought? I also feel so I would wonder how you feel about,
Starting point is 00:13:05 like, do you want them to like you? Or do you want them to just pass you the ball? Because if you want them to be like, look, I want to be part of the team. I want high fives. Bring in a big bottle of tequila. And that solves everything one way. Or you could just go and make your own plays on your own.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Just have a secret meeting with you and the girls and make your own plays on your own. Just have a secret meeting with you and the girls and make your own plays and exclude all the boys and be like, grow up, idiots. You're talking about fighting. So I'm drawing their battle lines. So I'm kind of with Bailey on get these hands, idiot. Form your own alliance within. But I'm going to take these get these hands idiot to another
Starting point is 00:13:45 level which is where i was going alexander now i'm not a big believer if you're with a group of people they don't want you around saying please please do you like me you're fucking six out of eleven i would say take your skills elsewhere fuck this team get in another team that's better than them ask if you can be their 11th then kick ass and they go it's a big change that's pretty good and then when you play catch these hands let them catch those hands and beat them every game so that the captain goes like alexander are we cool will you join us and you go no no i smoke you fools i don't play with you high five that i like that you like that yeah is it alexander alexandra alexandra okay i have i've been saying it wrong every time yeah but that leads us back
Starting point is 00:14:41 to the reverse ladybugs i think if we do it it, we have the name, which I just think is so, like you're pitching it, you don't even know you're pitching it, Jake, which I think is just kind of another level on that side of the scale. Gareth, my dyslexia is pitching it. Well, she could play on both teams. So stay as Alexandra on their current team. Join another team as Alexander. The question is how much free time do you have hold on i've been
Starting point is 00:15:07 saying alexander i was like yeah that's shocking that's it's okay i'm gonna call in for i'm gonna call in for help with names that's our side podcast so you and i so alex nice thanks needed Alex. Nice. Thanks. Needed a fix because as I started talking, I realized I'm going to fuck it up again. Solve it, baby. So Alex, you got some advice coming your way on this. You got to reverse ladybugs where you dress like a gentleman. You can go to the captain and you could try to like make nice with her. But I kind of feel like fuck that.
Starting point is 00:15:42 It's her job. She's the captain, not you. make nice with her. But I kind of feel like, fuck that. It's her job. She's the captain, not you.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Bailey said, is a way to make friends with the team is bring tequila and get everybody loose and kind of chill everybody out. Is that right, Bailey? You were kind of like, yeah, yes, right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:58 But you would get everybody kind of loose partying a little bit. Yeah. Be like, relax. We're too old to be not passing the ball. What the hell? that pitch is good in the sense too if you kick it a little further it's like hang after a game like you know a couple drinks after a game see if that maybe loosens it up yeah then you've also got create a secret type of play with the other women on the team so that when you guys score a goal,
Starting point is 00:16:26 and I'm going to add an amendment to Bailey's pitch, you guys all give each other a high five and exclude the guys. Secret handshake. Let them feel what it feels like on a winning thing where Joe the animal goes like, dude, nice. And you go like this, thanks. And then you give a high five to somebody else. And my pitch is they've already revealed
Starting point is 00:16:45 themselves to you you're playing in a field with a bunch of snakes get out of that field join another team and let them catch your hands where are you kind of at on this what are you thinking i like the idea of trying to hang out after a game maybe and then seeing the next week if anything improves okay maybe loosen it up a little bit yeah and then after that if that doesn't work i kind of like the idea of making a different team sorry i just assumed you're gonna say reverse ladybug uh no i think that's great i think one you know i think start simple and then yeah if they're if that doesn't work then if you're willing to do that i mean mean, that's awesome.
Starting point is 00:17:25 That is like a great story. That's a great edge. Bailey, when is the next time you're going to be in the Philly area in an arena kicking people's asses professionally? Right, then we could bring Joe Front Row. Front Row Joe. We could let these fools know who was on this call this isn't your regular oh it's a comedian it's a we got a motherfucking professional ass kicker and we got a team who's not included
Starting point is 00:17:55 there's a world where we can bring something here if joe comes to one of my shows i will take him out get him so drunk that he'll perform poorly in your next game. And you're just going to steal the show. Great. Great. We've got three great options. tequila with him will you bring up the fact that bailey is softly offering a a party night of sorts and if not an ass kicking guaranteed i think i'm just gonna throw in like scare him a little bit be like yeah that guy looking at looking at me from the bar he's about to get
Starting point is 00:18:42 these hands you know he's gonna catch these hands. You know what I'm talking about? He's going to catch these hands. Would you put a little fear of God into these fools? And then what I would really say is put the feelers out for other teams because once people don't want you at their party, don't beg to go. Go to another party. There's another team that I guarantee would like somebody who could score. I've been on a lot of teams, and when there's somebody who can finish and score, give them a uniform. And there's teams that want to whip the shit out of catch these hands,
Starting point is 00:19:11 especially if you've got an animal like Joe running around fighting in a co-ed league, it would be a joy to beat him for a lot of these teams. So have Joe give us a call too. It sounds like there's something we got to dig in there. I mean, consider taking your talents elsewhere. Yeah, I think, I think we've got to dig in there. Consider taking your talents elsewhere. I think we've got a solid game plan.
Starting point is 00:19:30 We appreciate your call, and Bailey, we appreciate you joining us. You got anything in closing you want to say? I think you know what to do. It sounds like a long process, but you got it. Let us know how it turns out, too. I will. Thank you, guys. Thank you. know how it turns out too i will thank you guys thank you all right thank you
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Starting point is 00:25:06 Hello? Hey, how are ya? Hi. Hi, welcome to the show. You're on with Jake Johnson and Gareth Reynolds. Hi, it's nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. Can we get your name? It could be a fake name and a location.
Starting point is 00:25:26 It's Jacqueline and I'm in Colorado. Colorado. You near Carbondale? I don't think so. Denver? Denver, yeah. Colorado Springs? Suburbs. No, we live out east. Near Omaha?
Starting point is 00:25:42 Near Nebraska? Yeah, Omaha. You're right at the border? Kansas. I love that. It's a great So kind of in the... Near Omaha, near Nebraska. Yeah, Omaha. You're right at the border. Kansas. Yeah, exactly. Oh, Kansas. Love it. I love that. It's a great area. Sorry, we're just geography guys.
Starting point is 00:25:50 Okay, what can we help you with today? I was wondering if I could get some help trying to come clean from a lie that I told a long time ago that's kind of stupid. Love this start. This feels wheelhouse yeah about it was probably almost 20 years ago oh 20 years yeah i was working with somebody and she offered me a cupcake and i said no like it had coconut on it and I said I was allergic to coconut like no thank you are you and then nope I don't know why I said that I could have just said no and then I didn't really worry about it too much because I was thinking it was just going to be like a work lie like
Starting point is 00:26:39 and it would fizzle out or something but then her and i became like best friends really quickly and then i found out that like we have a lot of similar friends hold on hold on hold on jack this is oh i just think of all the lies uh but we've heard this one is the smallest. This is the smallest. How old were you when you told this lie? I was 21. A 21-year-old lie. And now you're a grown-up.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Now you're in your 40s. Lied. So how many times? What's your best friend's name? Gareth. Gareth? Jake, we didn't want to... Oh, okay. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Sorry. I was going to say. So wait. So has the coconut thing come up over the years a bunch? Like, have you been to a Thai restaurant? You've gone to Hawaii? You've gone to Hawaii. Hawaii is right.
Starting point is 00:27:41 It's just that we have so many friends in common that we had no idea and then our like circle just kind of grew and we got really close okay and the fly was so fresh so i just kind of keep doing it and then how often is coconut entering your orbit not really often but it's still there brother it's a real lie i ended up marrying her brother's friend it's my husband now okay and so that it kind of came up more with him and like oh man it sort of became just like a thing where i was like i don't have i'm not a coconut eater now i guess even though i i do like it then why not have the cupcake that's what i was gonna. Let's go back in time 20 years. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:28 So I was on a diet. Okay. And I was pretty strict with it, but I didn't really want to talk about it a lot. Okay. I get this. I'm with you. I've done weird shit.
Starting point is 00:28:41 I've done this too. Especially it was like a new workplace. I kind of. Yep. You didn't want to see shit. I've done this too. Yeah. Especially it was like a new workplace. I kind of. Yeah. You didn't want to see me. I get you. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:50 They looked homemade. Like, I mean, I cheated on my diet here and there, but it was kind of like the stuff that I felt like it was worth it. It feels like. Okay. So let's just backhand this.
Starting point is 00:29:02 That didn't look like it was worth the cheat. Yeah. And you didn't want to offend the cupcake maker your best friend future friend in your inner circle so you just lied and said you didn't like coconut because it didn't look like it was worth the cheat yeah because a coke is a shitty cupcake at least give me like peanut butter and chocolate yeah well yeah i mean listen we can what was on the inside i don't want to get into it too deep okay well now you're okay and then did you tell your husband that this is bullshit uh eventually i did it's a good question gareth so the only person who's in the only person you're lying to know is sarah i don't know who knows but if you're in a restaurant and coconut comes on and sarah's not
Starting point is 00:29:47 there you're eating it well i feel like if i come clean to her since it was the first time that i lied about it it would be like pulling the bottom jenga block out let me just ask you a question jacqueline what is the reason you have not just reached out to her and apologized and said like, 20 years ago, I did this goofy thing. I was on a diet and I'm not allergic to coconut. What are you, what's the fear there? I don't know if it's really a fear, just kind of the reason why I'm thinking about it now probably is because Halloween's coming up. And when we get together, it's usually kids stuff. Carve that coconut, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:30 And I take my kids' Almond Joys and Mounds out of their trick-or-treat bags. Delicious. Why? Because they don't like them. Okay. And I'm just waiting for one of the kids to blab about it. I mean, this is an easy one for me. You got something?
Starting point is 00:30:48 I'm straightforward on this one, too. I mean, I have two. You go first because mine is pretty clean. I'll hit you with my clean one. This is the clean one. You just keep the lie going. It's not worth it at this point. It is a very simple thing to just avoid coconut in certain circles you're not you know
Starting point is 00:31:06 what i mean you're not like putting coconut in everything i think at this point just like you said it's the jenga block i get so just like it's just it's gross saying is weird it's gonna be weird the other i an extension of that which i don't like but just as an option is you do the reverse lie. And you say you just went to an allergist because you had like a rash on your back and the allergist ran some tests on you. Turns out you're not allergic to coconut. And actually, holy shit, do you love it? Can I say something? You're coconut nuts. Go ahead, bud. The reason why I like doing this with you is you are a true maniac. Those are the worst two clean pitches.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Come on. I truly believed we were going to be on the same page. I did too. I thought I saw a nod. Then you started talking. I thought I saw a nod. There was no nod? It was the nod of shock.
Starting point is 00:32:04 It was the nod that people do to me when I talk. It's so nice to do to another. I know. And I think that's why this works. Because we both feel good about being like, wow, this guy's a lunatic. Jacqueline, here's what I would say that I think is clean. And maybe you're going to look at me the way I'm looking at Garrett, but I don't think so. Oh, man. I think you have to, at this point, send a text or an email to Sarah and say, we need to talk.
Starting point is 00:32:34 My tone is more dramatic, but this is serious. Take her out, go face to face and say, I need to tell you something. And it's important that you know this. 20 years ago, you offered me a coconut cupcake. Do you remember it? She's going to say no. She's going to say yes. Then if she did whatever she says, then you say, I'm not allergic to coconut. I never have been. This lie has snowballed and I don't know how to get out of it. But I love you and I'm sorry. We need to move past it.
Starting point is 00:33:05 I like mine better. But I will say if you do, Jakes, I would recommend going out to eat at like a Thai restaurant and ordering some coconut stuff. And when she looks puzzled, say, which brings us to today. So, Jacqueline, on this, you got three options. You've got to keep the lie going. You've got a reverse lie. And that is go to an allergist fake allergist you fake and you go like unbelievable my body is now okay with it or three
Starting point is 00:33:33 bite the bullet go face to face and admit what you have done what do you think that you're gonna do i'm probably i need to just tell her all right you say you're going to do three would um you be willing if we can find her would you do it on this show oh my god yeah i think she's calling kevin is she calling in she's supposed to call in any second oh is that true i would love i would love the first option but it's too late. Okay, so hold on, hold on. Kevin, so you have Sarah calling in? We just keep it going now. You're just like, hey, I just wanted to bring you on the podcast.
Starting point is 00:34:12 But hold on. I'm still allergic. What does Sarah know about this? What did you email her? I said I told a funny story about myself to a podcast, and now they want to talk to my friend. I am so excited. Wait, hold on.
Starting point is 00:34:28 I need more info. So you said I told a funny story on a podcast, and you're involved, and what did she say? I didn't tell her she was involved. I said it was a funny story about myself and that they want to talk to my friend. And she said okay? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:44 And then Kevin? She was like okay so she knows okay okay so she thinks she's in the waiting room okay hold on hold on hold on hold on kevin have you corresponded with sarah no okay great so this is sarah so i don't know she might want a fake name though so okay uh how do we intro this gary i'll start i'll start it off with her i i'm just i don't know what's going on but i've never been so happy so go ahead i'm gonna intro us and get us started a little bit okay hello hi welcome to the podcast we're here to help with jake johnson and gareth reynolds how's it going hi uh we know you as sarah is that the correct name you want uh cara with a c oh cara okay great
Starting point is 00:35:28 yeah so cara we have your friend uh jacqueline on with us hi cookie whoa hi hey cara what type of cookie are you calling her? Oh, she's definitely an Oreo. Oh, she is? Okay, great. So Jacqueline called in our show. We are a goofy advice show where we try to help people with, you know, small problems. And she had a small problem. And it kind of involves you, Kara.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Uh-oh. Yeah. So, Jacqueline, the floor is yours, young lady. What's going on? Come on, Cookie. So, let's just see if you remember, first of all, when I first started working, there was, like, you had made chocolate cupcakes for something at work okay on it okay no that was like almost 20 years ago so i've been pretending i guess to be allergic to coconut this whole time
Starting point is 00:36:45 why is that? because I turned down that first cupcake and then we became friends and I just kept it going that's a liar it's like 18 years tell me you really like pickles too then no oh no that's my lie so kara what's your what's your take on this she has not she is not allergic to coconut at all that has been a lie she's wanted it off her chest now she's done it where are we at oh my gosh i'm gonna have to make
Starting point is 00:37:22 her like a coconut cake or something and make her eat the whole thing. No, pickle cake. Pickle cake. Punisher, pickle cake. Right, with a pickle on top. Kara, can I ask you a question? Were there a number of times where coconut came up and you noticed that she rejected coconut? Or did you know that she was?
Starting point is 00:37:39 Yes. So this has been. I didn't know she really wasn't allergic. I was just like, oh, she just can't have that. Oh, whatever. It's okay. Yeah, you still loved her despite the fact that she couldn't have coconut. Of course. But now she's going to get coconut everything.
Starting point is 00:37:54 So just to be clear, when Jacqueline told the story, she said when she first lied, it was a small lie based off a diet, and she was a little embarrassed about it. But then you have become a true best friend and a really valuable person in her life. And she was at my wedding. She wanted to make sure you weren't mad,
Starting point is 00:38:17 but she wanted to tell you that enough. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. I can't believe it. All these years. Yeah. What else have you been lying about oh wow jacqueline but i had i told kirk like into our marriage was when i finally told kirk yeah she lied to kirk about it was this around us and i was like oh no i can't have that coconut shrimp or whatever because sometimes i would have like a bite and he would look at me weird and I'd be like, oh, a little bit's OK.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Wait, Jacqueline, how long did that go on with your husband where you kept that lie going with him? I think we even had our first kid when it finally came out. Are you waiting for the next podcast to tell him kirk is uh kirk's in the waiting room ladies over the 20-year period have you secretly been eating coconuts you just don't do it around people in your life yeah we were at a bar or something and i ordered like a malibu and diet coke when nobody was around what you are jacklyn jacklyn you are you are our kind of person you're our kind of people this is an incredible can i get a uh malibu and Coke in the ladies' bathroom, please, sir? Don't tell me. Just hand it off.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Keep it on the DL. And I was like, rum and Coke. Like, what are you drinking? Rum and Coke. And I was telling the truth. Amazing. So, Karen, just to be clear from our end, are you good? Is this going to change anything?
Starting point is 00:39:59 Or is this another level of your friend being a true weirdo and you love her for it? Where are you at? Oh, she's definitely a true weirdo and you love her for it where you at oh she's definitely a true true weirdo but it does change everything because now it's going to be all things coconut and pickles on the side good and then jacqueline i think you've got to let cara win for a while and when she tells you to eat a pickle yeah i think you might have to lead in a little bit until she gets this out of her system i think that's fair i think you need to eat pickles in front of her until she goes we're even yeah does that sound you know if this
Starting point is 00:40:32 is a ridiculous judge show then that's i guess the uh yeah sentence yeah oh my goodness thanks guys this is fun thank you appreciate both you guys. I still love you, cookie. I love you, big liar. But now it's a coconut cookie. We're Here to Help is hosted by Jake Johnson. And Gareth Reynolds. The show is produced and edited by Kevin Bartelt. The theme song is made by Oliver Raleigh. And you can check out all of his work at OliverRaleigh.com. The album artwork is by James Fosdyke. You can find him on Instagram at James underscore Fosdyke.
Starting point is 00:41:12 And if you'd like to see me do stand-up on the road, go to GarethReynolds.com. And if you'd like to be on our show, please email us at HelpfulPod at gmail.com. That was a HeadGum Podcast.

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