We're Here to Help - 171: Walk This Lonely Dream & Shake Your Little Butts (with Jillian Bell)
Episode Date: May 14, 2025The guys are joined by the great Jillian Bell for this bonus episode. First, they help a caller plan a father-daughter dance with Mr. Worldwide. Later, a caller tries to get her partner on bo...ard with an embarrassing tennis ritual.Check out Jillian's directorial debut Summer of 69, now streaming on Hulu.See caller images here!Want to call in? Email your question to helpfulpod@gmail.com.PATREON: https://patreon.com/heretohelppodMERCH: heretohelppod.comINSTAGRAM: @HereToHelpPodIf you’re enjoying the show, make sure to rate We’re Here to Help 5-Stars on Apple Podcasts.Advertise on We’re Here to Help via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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I have a couple things I want to talk about during this intro.
I have an agenda for this one.
And it's a good thing Rob's here too, because I don't know if this is Rob related.
But my mother, okay, so long story short.
I got stuff too.
Stop it.
Long story short, actually this is the worst thing.
I have two things, so don't get two in the weeds in this.
We sent my mother something from the show.
Oh right.
Yes.
My mother likes her neck fan because my mother gets red face and she likes to have a fan
stop to cool herself down.
Stop.
Did we ever air that?
No, I don't think we did.
This is what it says.
Every package notification, dear customer, we regret to inform you that your package
should not be delivered due to missing or damaged address information.
You're getting hostile.
Be sure to timely delivery.
Please follow the link below to update you. You're getting house. Sure. A timely delivery.
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Know, don't open it.
Don't quit that.
OK.
No.
But then he goes on to say, please apply wide and exit this SMS and open it again.
And actually, so just ignore.
Yes.
Yes.
Just ignore it.
Never click it again.
Never order from this place again.
No.
What kind of neck fan? OK. All right. Send you one. Never click it again. Never order from this place again. Now, what kind of neck fan?
OK, all right. Send you one.
That's very good. You won't be.
You'll have to open a UK Amazon account.
It's fucking it's a nightmare. OK.
I can't I can't.
I've got one. I've got one.
Do you need it?
Let's just do it.
And then Rob will just send you a neck.
Yeah. What neck fan did you want?
I want a matching neck fan.
Well, I don't know.
It was just a nice one that seemed to lock.
It fits around her neck.
It's got dual fans, good charge.
It fits around her neck.
It's like a fan necklace.
That's what you want, Pam?
Like a shawl, but a fan, if you know what I'm saying.
It fits over her shoulder.
Just walk around the house with a fan around your neck, Pam?
Yeah, that's right.
Like a fan, like a cooling device?
Yes.
Battery powered?
Well, rechargeable.
Pam, this is what you're looking for?
Cause we can help you with it.
We don't want one.
Can we send you some?
We'll send you some, Mom.
We're here to help.
That's right, exactly what I was thinking.
Nice.
But she got it and she loved it.
Great.
She was very happy.
She was very thankful, wanted to thank everybody. Sweet.
But then something else showed up in the mail.
I don't know about this.
I had a feeling you didn't.
And I had a feeling it was from Rob,
because Rob got her address.
I did not know about this.
And by the way, this, she told me what it was,
and I go, what?
And she's like, did you send it?
And I go, no.
And I got kind of freaked out for a minute.
But then I was like, well, no, obviously.
I was like, this had to be Robert Jake.
And the more I thought about it, the more I was like,
there's no way this is Jake.
So I should point out,
in the lower part of my mother's house,
there's like a bathroom, like a shed basically.
And in there, she hangs my first headshot.
And it's embarrassing and it's a nightmare.
Anyway, she gets this in the mail and she's like,
I'm thinking of putting it in the toilet
with your headshot.
And this is what showed up to her place.
Wait, actually I did know about this.
You did?
Yeah.
Do you want to explain what this is?
Yes, I did know.
We were texting about it, but I forgot about it.
It's insane.
So, it's a photo of me and Tom Cruise from The Mummy that Rob found online and said,
should I send this to Pam?
So what did you actually send her?
This!
This is it!
A picture of you and Tom Cruise.
And she's gonna hang it in her bathroom.
Yes.
Right next to your first headshot.
The only picture that's in there.
Amazing.
It was my headshot. It was awful.
Amazing.
And now it's gonna be this as well.
What a victory.
It is a huge victory.
Nice, Rob. Well done.
But boy, the second thing is I was gifted something at a show recently.
Okay. Well done. The second thing is I was gifted something at a show recently, okay, and
Jesse can you bring it over because it was actually
My jaw dropped when I was given this excited
It's a reference to the show. I like that. Jesse was like it needs to be in another cabinet
Yeah, why don't well yeah, I'll let you open it
so Yeah, why don't well, yeah, I'll let you open it So so someone at a show brings this and I look up and I'm like, what the fuck and I go it's just like them
Open it. Oh
My god, why don't you explain what it is?
This is from the collar and I'll put it to this
Yeah And I'll put it to this. Yeah.
Big fat baby in ginger picnic,
the doll behind the glass.
The haunted glass dolls.
These are the actual ones?
So I'm like, they look just like them.
And she goes, they are them.
That was me calling in.
Oh my God.
And I was doll struck.
This is a big deal for the show.
Do you want these? I mean, do you want yours? Should we hang them somewhere? Yeah, do you want both?
Take both go do jiu-jitsu with them in the little... No!
I love these. I love them for you. I love them for your background. These will be in my background, but also whenever I finish an acting job,
I take one thing from set always.
So every gig I've ever had, no matter what, whenever this ends,
this will be with me until this, my kids will go like,
because this is bad baby.
Aren't they, what is it again?
Ginger Picnic.
Aren't they?
This is us. This is us.
Me, especially today, honestly.
Guys, what I want everyone to think of when you watch this show, will you hold it up,
Gareth?
This is how we see each other.
I know sometimes you think we're mean to each other.
This is who I think is doing the show.
Yes, agreed.
It's just these two people decided to do a podcast.
I could not agree more that you are a dirty, scummy little baby fighting for every morsel.
Exactly.
And that I am a sad little ginger booo.
Little ginger princess whose feelings are precious.
It's perfect.
And this is the kid who's going like, I want more rock in my soup, makes the soup hideous.
I like it.
I don't need teeth to win. I like the rocks because I ain't got no teeth
Incredible so it's a prop heavy intro right but this will go on socials. Oh, yeah on the website
It was just it was astounding. Yeah, so she opened that out of the wall because this was yeah
What up there because her boyfriend they were enclosed and she brought them to a show in I think Maryland.
These will be in the BG of all of them.
Please. Absolutely incredible. So I forget
her name. I don't know if she gave it to me but thank you for giving us those.
Now really quickly should we tie this to Jillian and use this for her intro or no?
Sure. I was asking Natalie that's why I used a louder voice.
Sure.
Didn't expect you to yell sure.
Ring the bell again, huh?
That's always fun.
This is a ring the bell.
Yeah.
And the photo for your mom ring the bell.
All right, there we go.
You've killed it with things today.
So.
We have a special guest.
Yes.
The great.
Jillian Bell.
So funny. The best. Jillian Bell. So funny.
The best.
I'm not on the calls as much as I'd like to be.
Yeah, your internet broke off.
Yeah, internet broke, but Jillian is the best
and she stepped in, she stepped up as always.
It was great.
And what we wanna tell you guys or ask you guys all to do
is May 9th. May 9th.
On Hulu. on Hulu.
She has directed her first feature starring Chloe Fineman
and there's a ton of people in that
you're gonna be fans of.
It's called Summer of 69.
Summer of 69.
But everybody, if you have Hulu, click on it
because all those views matter.
Tell people.
And we want Jillian to win big.
We want everyone to watch so that she can direct more.
And truly because she's a winner.
She's a winner. Like we've both worked with her before.
She is one of the funniest people ever.
And she's also one of the nicest, sweetest people.
So she is one we all want to win big.
So do us a favor. If you like this this show if you're a fan of the show
Spread the word tell everyone to watch summer of 69. Let's blow it up for Jillian
She's a friend of the show and she's just the best and wouldn't it be nice in Hollywood if she became a hot shot
Director and yeah more people like her were winning. Yeah, and she's putting her friends and stuff
No, she is the fucking best.
I know, how did I do that?
Don't.
No.
Ah!
Ah!
Ginger picnic!
Cause maybe she could put me in it
after my mommy says I'm wonderful at skipping.
Look at me, look at me, I skip, I skip.
We should point out that Ginger Picnic
is holding a little robe.
Hey.
Hey, I ate my own leg.
Hey you, come here.
I ate my own leg to teach myself a lesson about meat. Hey, hey, I ate my own leg. Hey you come here. I ate my own leg to teach myself a lesson about me. Hey, hey
Can I wear that dress of yours?
I'll give you two nibbles. We should do a podcast
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honest, sometimes it's hard not to be. I get angry at stuff, Gareth.
Such as, Mr. Johnson?
Your perm?
Stop, I'm soaking wet.
Stop.
Not today, by the way.
By the way, you're angry at the perm.
I told you you're going to see my movie and your note's going to be the perm.
It was a ridiculous face.
It's not even a perm.
I don't know what's happening.
I get angry at your love of the Packers.
I get angry at your delusion over the Bears.
I get angry at the draft in Green Bay
where you just looked around
and my mother who lived in Manitoc,
I'm like, oh, look at this city.
What are you talking about?
And it's like, go Packers.
And I was like, I'm feeling angry.
They had a great draft.
Listen, don't get angry about all the things
that we talked about, except for Jake's kind of
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Please note that due to an unstable internet connection
while recording, Gareth is in and out of this episode.
Hello.
Hey.
Hi.
Hi, how's it going?
Hi.
Yeah, thank you.
Really good.
Thank you.
Welcome to the show.
Listen, we're going to get right into it.
You're welcome.
Very polite.
You have Jake, you have me, and you also have a returning champion, guest helper.
Oh?
The great Jillian Bell.
Hello!
No way.
Yes way.
No way.
Absolutely way.
So this is getting solved.
Yes.
Wait, this is amazing.
Okay, perfect.
Okay, so what is your name?
My name's Campbell.
Campbell, okay. Cool name. Where are you calling from, Campbell? is your name? My name is Campbell Campbell okay
Where are you calling from Campbell man? Love your suit. Hi
Thank you. Thank you. Yep. Make it myself and it myself. I am calling from
Nashville the Nashville area
Sure
All right. Well, you're probably 32 would be my guess. You don't need to answer that. What's going on with what's going on today?
What can we help you with? So you're going no
personal info you
You know, all right, I'll be honest Jillian, okay, we've gone through this
Evolution where it started to be weird with the age. So now we're like, well, we sometimes ask, we sometimes don't.
So I thought I'd change it up. I'm just expressing it.
Do you want me to confirm or deny?
Yes, I do.
25.
You're 25? Okay.
Yeah.
Okay, Campbell Nashville 25, quick question for you.
You got a soul animal?
Yeah, lay on me. You know, like a spiritual guide you. You got a soul animal?
You know, like a spiritual guide.
Yeah, spiritual guide.
If you close your eyes and there's an animal protecting you,
what's that animal?
Mine's a silverback.
Gareth, what's your soul animal?
Jillian, what's your soul animal?
Mine's your silverback, I want yours.
Okay, Gareth, he's also using my grill,
but it will be tired.
Jillian, what's yours?
A tired old bat
Campbell what is what is your soul animal that protects you in the darkness?
Okay, like my soul animal. I want it to be like
Maybe like an owl cool or like an eagle like some sort of bird. Okay. I was what is it?
Okay, one of those two can it be both no you said you want it to now we're gonna get to we're gonna start getting clear Answers out of you Campbell, and you're gonna start driving this in a direct way
What animal is it not what animal is you want it to be?
Okay, the animal that I actually think it is in my heart of hearts. Yes
Unfortunately is a monkey. Thank you for saying that.
Now, Campbell, now that we're getting clear shots from you,
what is your issue today?
Okay, here I go.
So I'm getting married.
I'm getting, yeah, woo, I'm getting married in June.
And I, it's great.
It's gonna be awesome.
It's wonderful.
My fiance's awesome.
His name's Reed. It's gonna be great. It's going to be awesome. It's wonderful. My fiance is awesome. His name is Reed. It's going to be great. But we, okay. So my dad for the father daughter dance and
my fiance's mom for the mother son dance, they're like, they both have independently
told us, they're like, we don't want to just stand there and like sway with you for three minutes because that is awkward and weird yeah and i'm like okay fair fair point
they're right but yeah and i'm with them like i hear i hear that however my dad is so wonderful so so silly so ridiculous and wants to do like a choreographed routine which
people have been doing but he wants it to be like a mashup of like five insane
songs like insane songs for like a father-daughter dance routine. What are the songs?
I okay you guys he wants to open with
a bowl of our broken dreams
So I want you to picture this this is yeah, this is what he wants it to be which I like We're away on camel quick pause for a second Jillian. Do you know what that song is? Yeah, that's a green day
It's a green day song Jillian, please
One of this lonely road Is it that one?
Yep. Keep going.
So you know exactly that is what he wants us to like walk out to.
We come in.
This is in his mind.
We come in from different directions of the dance floor and that part is playing.
I walk a lonely road.
The only one that I have ever known.
And then we're walking out to that.
And then ideally their spotlights, obviously. Yeah, so that's cool, by the way
Yeah, and he's off and money is not an option for him at this wedding
He's also like those Rockets and I come off
He wants me in the cool music video of all time. I come out like the undertaker from the floor of the banquet hall
Okay, so he was like he loves the song wide awake by Katy Perry where it but all he knows of
That song is just the part where it goes. I'm wide awake. That's all he knows. I just love his musical taste
It is so like
2009 I'm guessing
Such a specific time for pop music. Yeah you're not wrong in that. He's very specific okay. He is just like wanting to choreograph
this like like really intricate. Alright Cam, hold on hold on. So we start off
Boulevard of Broken Dreams I didn't know it but the song that Jillian was saying
that's the lead in.
You guys are walking in with spotlights, yeah?
Okay.
Then what happens?
Okay, in his mind, Jake, this is important for you to know.
In his mind, this is what is gonna happen.
First, I'm trying to live as your dad.
I wanna see the fantasy before we pitch on it,
because right now I gotta say, Campbell,
and I know you're not gonna like this, I'm on the fence.
It might be a good idea.
I'm in, honestly.
There's no budget.
Gareth is in, Jillian's in.
So we're gonna end on your side.
I know we're gonna end on your side,
but we gotta hear his vision.
So is Wide Awake next?
Yeah, that's what I'm trying to get to.
But Wide Awake, somehow it goes to,
I'm on a bed and I am waking up.
Wait, wait, okay, okay. Somehow it goes to, I'm on a bed and I am waking up.
Wait, wait, okay, okay.
Now it's becoming a production.
Okay, so there's a bed there.
So someone's bringing in a bed and you're then pretending to be asleep?
Stage managers wearing all black like they do on Broadway.
All right, cue bed, cue the bed.
All right, they're moving, spotlights, hang with them. Bed, the bed. All right. They're moving spotlights. Hang with them bed. Move bed on wheels
Is that is that kind of what so let me ask you a question before we hear the next thing. I'm wide awake
Okay, then what happens?
Then I have no idea but I do know the rest of the songs that he wants included. Okay, great. That's enough
What's the third song?
Okay, one of the songs he once included is
You guys it's by Enrique Iglesias it is called I like how it feels
Do you know how I like how it feels goes does anybody yes, how does it go? I do
Okay, give us a taste. I guess it starts off. It starts off and it goes it's my time
It's my life. I can do
What I like hmm for the price
oversmile I gotta take
it to rock-hack-hack and we can live
Into a dance and eventually you got a voice on you kid.
So that's pretty good.
That's what makes me dance like a muppet.
You know, I'm in.
I like it more than I thought.
It's a great idea.
I just don't want to dance because also Pitbull Pitbull gets involved.
OK, hold on. Hold on.
Oh, don't jump to the end yet.
Stop. We're not going to your opinion. Oh great featuring
He just wraps a little taste give me a taste does he say mr. Worldwide
Um, what does he say? He does have a line in it where he goes think of any part of the world. I've been there
And he also he talks about global warming. He goes, you think I'm like global warming. Oh,
he goes, I'm like global warming. You think I've just started,
but I've been here.
Would your dad be pit bull?
I don't, I, yeah, you know what? If my dad was pit bull,
this would maybe change my whole opinion on everything.
In a good way or bad way. Go ahead, Joanne.
Can you imagine, can you imagine saying, think of a place I've been there?
And someone just goes, Zizek's California,
and he goes, well, no, to be honest, I have not been there.
Right.
No chance he's been everywhere.
No way, it's impossible.
He's been a lot of places because he's a touring musician,
but he hasn't been everywhere.
That's true.
But he has been to the world wide.
Yes, you're right.
But the idea of dad being Pitbull in there could be cool. Now, what is the other song? So right
now we got Boulevard of Broken, we got some Katy Perry, we got some I Like How It Feels.
Jillian, go ahead.
I have one suggestion. Is your dad naturally a bald man?
Like he is very, yeah, so bald.
How could you do that?
Because I was going to say there could be something fun
if he has a wig on for the beginning
and then takes that off to be Mr. Worldwide.
I totally agree.
You guys, you guys, this is my problem.
This is, this is, we're getting to the root of the problem actually, because these things
are so funny and like these bits are so funny.
And this is what I've done with my dad is we have just been like doing bits about like
the most ridiculous things that could possibly happen.
And I, I don't know when, but I was doing bits and at some point I think the
bits turned real in his head. I get it. And now he's like no this is actually
happening at your reception. Let me explain why that's happened and this is why I'm
glad we got to this with you where we just had to get to the meat and potatoes
of this because it is funny it is ridiculous but now it's getting a little
bit scary. That's the nature of my life and most likely Jillian's.
All of this is a bit that hasn't stopped.
I've got a weird man staring off to the side
in my background that looks like a fisherman
that I would love to not have in here anymore,
but I need him with me at all times.
This thing started off as a bit.
Now it travels around with me.
So you also have a dummy in a shed that you play with.
Like a doll.
I do need to know more about that eventually.
I agree, yeah.
We can get into that.
Another call.
Another call.
Wait, so how does it end, Campbell?
How does this all end?
Well, we still got two more songs, I believe.
Yeah, there's more songs.
One of them is Payphone by Maroon 5.
Great. Hold on, Jillian, give me a taste.
I don't know. I'm on a payphone child phone home.
That doesn't sound like it's in your range. Yeah. Yeah, no.
What? Excuse me, Jillian, I'll answer for you.
Everything's in her range. Thank you.
Thank you. You're a manager.
Yeah, well, I mean I mean look she knows every song
I mean, that's killing itself
Good lord, so then pay for me. I think she killed it. Thank you. Thank you
Is there gonna be an actual cowl on this show?
Is there gonna be our actual pay phone?
Like there's a bed. No. Guys, we have no budget for this. Like, this is where the logistics of this is insane.
Like, I'm like, he lives 12 hours away from me.
You tell me when we're going to choreograph a routine.
Okay. Here's what I think this call is about.
You correct me if I'm incorrect.
Your dad wants to do a real weird unthought out five song structure with choreography
that doesn't make sense, lighting cues that are insane, cut to unrealistic moments where
you're hopping out of a bed with props and he wants somebody magically to put this all
together and it's gonna be a disaster,
but he doesn't wanna do any work until day up.
And you're trying to plan a real wedding,
and your dad's going, oh, I got another song.
I wanna sex you up should play.
And you go like, what?
And he goes, throw that in.
Also anything by C&C Music Factory.
And you're like.
This is all the wrong genre.
It's all 2009.
I agree, but I'm not great with names and music.
That's okay.
But I agree.
Do you have references that are better?
Avril Lavigne?
Avril Lavigne.
Okay.
I don't know if you all know the band Rush, but he most definitely needs Rush in there.
There's two things I want to say real quick.
One is I have a feeling, and this is a like, let your pearls moment, that your dad doesn't know how to...
Wait, that was actually...
Roll.
Sorry. Sorry to cut you off, but you just reminded me that was the last song was,
I Got A Feeling by the Black Eyed Bees.
Oh, okay.
I have a feeling. How does that go?
I got a feeling, woo.
Keep going.
That tonight's gonna be a good night.
Yeah.
Okay, that's a great ending.
Okay, well, then maybe we're solved
because I was saying, I'm clutching my pearls
because what if your dad doesn't wanna find the final song
because he doesn't want the process to be over?
Because then it means he's given away his baby girl.
I think there's a lot of truth to that.
Okay, now here-
That's so sad.
There's a lot of truth to that, Campbell, as your dad.
Here's the pitch. There's the kind of fake one, but could be cool if it was real and then the real one
Okay
Okay, so the the kind of fake one, but I think it would be badass is you guys do all the things you do the Green Day
Right awake Enrique pay phonephone, I Got a Feeling.
And then by the time you get to the end of it, you pause, right?
There's some kind of like, like record scratch.
And then it goes in reverse.
So you're doing the whole thing backwards.
But now your fiance or new husband, terrible.
This is terrible, dude. Your new husband.
You realize your new husband has always been
right there next to you.
So it's sort of a metaphor for Jesus.
Who's gonna choreograph this?
You better get Madonnas from back in the day
who are excellent.
Cause if not, it's just gonna look like
a bunch of weirdos going like this.
Like, meh-oh-weh. and the audience, old, your grandma and your aunt
are gonna go, what is happening?
Just rewatch Ace Ventura and see what he did.
He did it in reverse.
Just do that, but your husband's been there the whole time
and we didn't know because you didn't see his footprints.
It's a whole metaphor for Jesus.
I'll tell you what's gonna happen, Joanne, afterwards.
There's gonna be a lot of, I didn't get it.
Yeah. Well, that's why. Why would a lot of, I didn't get it. Why was Reed there?
I didn't get it.
That's why in Garage?
No, the rest of the wedding is gonna go,
because he, okay, what it meant was
he was there the whole time.
Who was?
My husband.
But why were you with your dad dancing weird?
Because we were going back in time.
But what do you mean you were going back in time?
Because Reed was there the whole time.
I don't get it. Anyway, enjoy the fucking wedding.
That's why, that's why with GarageBand you add a VO.
What's the VO sound like?
The VO is like, he's always been there. He's been there the whole time.
This is insane. So it's just like a, it's like the voice of God is telling people the message of the dance.
Yeah. Okay, I told you this one is a 50-50 shot.
I wouldn't say 50-50, I'll say 199.
Okay, here's the real answer.
Here's the real answer.
Okay.
I think you do a very short version of this
that is a minute long with very quick clips
that doesn't include props with your father
and it's not on the day of the wedding.
I think it's the night
before it.
Do it via video.
It's like the night before at the rehearsal dinner.
Can't be the night before.
Why?
You got to shoot it. You got to edit it. It's a lot of work.
No, no, no. A live video. Like a live moment.
Oh, a live video.
A live moment.
I got you. I got you. Okay.
Yeah.
Okay. I got you.
That way it's not at your wedding wedding and then you guys on the day of
Do that very sweet thing where you and your husband?
pick the same song that you want to do the dance with your mom and
In father with and half the song is you and your dad and half the song is him with his mom
So it's not a full three minutes of just the same
Can I can I pitch on that, Campbell?
Are you ready to start hearing pitches?
Yeah, yeah, I'm ready.
She has been hearing a lot of really solid pitches, so I don't know.
No, she hasn't.
If we're at a restaurant, these are weird bread and appetizers.
At this point, I said I didn't come for that.
It's not that kind of restaurant.
Get it off the table.
No, this is great, you guys.
Keep going. Whatever weird fish dish this is, get it off. I came to an Italian place. I want noodles.
You don't want loose shrimp that's still a little gray.
By the way, I had shrimp yesterday and I saw the black line going through it.
No, that's the poop.
I know, but guess what I did?
That is a poop.
You ate it.
I was with my wife, we were having a lovely little date and I saw it and I got grossed
out and I go, he goes, saw what?
Eat a little shrimp shit.
And I ate it.
And I thought, might barf?
And then I thought, there's so much seasoning.
Ugh.
Anyway, it's not about that.
You can't taste the poop,
but that doesn't mean it's not there.
You're not wrong.
Here's my pitch.
And I don't know if this is a real one, Campbell,
but I'm just throwing it out
because here's what I was thinking when Jillian was talking.
I'm teasing her pitches, but they're good.
There's something to this and we're close.
I think what we're pitching is we pick the song
that you pitched to your dad, but it's a song that honors your dad, your relationship,
the fun of it and the relationship.
And here's what I'm gonna pitch.
Remember the woman who did Mrs. Gingerbread?
Yeah, of course.
How could I forget?
What if we reached out to her
and asked her to write you guys an original?
Jillian, there's a woman who has a cat.
She wrote an original song about how much she loves her cat.
Her and her husband are musicians and it's like, I love you, love you, love you.
And people have been playing that at weddings and dancing to it.
So what if she wrote an original song in the vein of Mrs. Gingerbread about a father and
a daughter that tied into these themes and you guys danced to an original?
Okay, I actually like that, but I do have a question.
Of course, that's what this is about.
It's about questions.
Can you kiss your dad?
Is that the question?
No, no, no.
No.
No.
Jillian, pretend your internet's bad.
All right.
Bup, bup, bup, bup, bup.
No, my question is, can she sing it not in her cat voice?
Interesting. What would be your note if we were to ask her?
Yeah, it can regular right if you write and sing a song what you think because I think she has a great voice
Honestly, but I just don't want I don't need the cat voice. Okay, that's reserved for Mrs. Gingerbread
I think that's exactly right. But if she were to do that and write a two minute song, would you dance to your
dad with it? Probably. It just depends on like... It's gotta work. I agree. It's gotta work.
Okay. I wrote the song. So if you want me to sing it, I can just sing it now. All right,
Campbell, will you close your eyes for a second and imagine dancing with Lance? Okay. Okay, I'm closing. Okay. I can't read one of the words already. Man,
that happened fast. Okay, got it. Got it. Okay, here we miss you, but I won't kiss you.
You're my dad and you're rad.
Now let's dance like you wanted to, Lance.
And then it kicks off into a 45 second version of I
Want to Wake, you know, and then,
and then they separate and then it's like,
I want this lonely road.
And then they come back and the pit bull.
Yeah, but now we're just adding to the things she did.
What you're adding to the ball.
No, I know, but there's gotta be a compromise.
There's gotta be a compromise.
When your compromise is add weirdness to the mix.
I thought we had it at the beginning
Listen it sounds like I'm drinking water, but it's a lot of vodka
If you don't want this advice
Shall with another babe, you know
Now you're getting defense
You're getting different. So we're still in it with her.
So Campbell, I actually, I liked the Jillian song surprisingly a lot, but I don't think
it's right for this.
When you close your eyes, Campbell, and you think of dad.
Yeah.
What a guy.
When you think of that wonderful relationship, you two strange souls have had.
And on this rock, somehow it was father, daughter, and wow, did it work.
Sure, there were ups and downs, of course there is, but man, are you glad you picked dad.
And because you picked dad and it worked worked out so well you fell in love
with a with a winner. The guy similar to dad and his kindness and his
sweetness and his dare I say heart. So when you think of honoring dad in this
funky love story that started as a two-year-old that went to a six-year-old through your teenage
years to the 20s till now. What song makes you think of dad? Not dad's jokes, but dad.
I don't think spit. don't think spit.
I know, but this is going to be an answer you don't like.
Talk to me.
What is it?
Jumbawumba?
No guys, there's really not one.
Like I don't think like the things that I love the most about my dad are that like he's
hilarious and like is also like, I mean, just so funny, but it's also like very
Like I have extremely bad anxiety and he has been like get a lot with it. Yes. Yeah
So he's just been he's been like so
Yeah, and he's like hilarious. What makes you so what makes him so wonderful with your anxiety? How does he handle it?
He is just like pretty patient.
Which I mean as you know with anxiety, well as you know like with anxiety it's like the
most inconvenient thing of all time.
The worst.
Yeah, irrational.
Yeah.
Irrational.
Yeah. And he is like so willing to be like, okay, let's go walk around
Let's go walk around. It's fine
Like we're gonna get up from this nice dinner table that we're at with our whole family and we're gonna go outside and walk around
Oh my god, I love him. Me too.
And he will be like, and it's like he doesn't even fully understand it, but like he doesn't care. He understands you
Yeah, he like yeah
Okay, I don't get how your brain works like this
But like I want to do what I can to like help and I'm gonna tell you Jillian
We're in a really sweet moment here. Okay, we should end sexually, but I won't I won't actually it's going to surprise you
I so I deal with a lot of anxiety. I think Jake said he does too.
And I lost my father 12 years ago.
And by the way, when I found out he was sick,
the first thing I thought was,
who is like the best man in my life right now
that I can marry?
And I know that sounds irrational,
but I was like, I just want him to be there.
And so for this moment, I actually think there's something
really beautiful about having some kind of combination
where you're having a sweet moment with him
and then just have like one little moment of a song
that's fun for him because it honestly, too,
is gonna get you out of your head.
Like, I actually think there's some kind of sweet tribute
to your dad. Like, he's picking there's some kind of sweet tribute to your dad.
Like, he's picking things like, I walk this lonely road,
but like, you do, you leave tables to just go
and like, take a walk with him.
Like, I think...
Totally right.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, you could figure out what's the most fun.
Like, if it's the fucking Enrique Iglesias one,
like, do a moment with that, that like, you know,
is just like, it starts out sweet
and then it just hits into that for like 30 seconds.
Yeah, and it just like starts sweet and then-
Cause you won't regret it.
Yeah, because you won't regret it.
And if that's who he truly is,
honor who he is in that moment too, and who you are.
You know what your dad has done here,
and I think Jellywood's pitch is right on,
I walk these lonely dreams, right?
But then I'm wide awake.
Then you've got a feeling.
Yeah, no, then wide awake, then it's,
I like the way it feels.
This is as you as a woman.
But you know what he wants you to do?
Call him on a pay phone.
Reach out to dad and then,
but I've got a feeling that tonight's gonna be a good night.
Meaning it's all gonna be okay.
Here's my pitch.
Just let your dad drive the train
and let it be the worst three minute dance of all time.
Let it be chaos and fun.
And beforehand say, before I do this dance,
I just wanna say something really quickly.
I love my dad very much.
With all of my heart, you've always been there for me.
You know that.
Fight the emotions, but if they come out, that's okay.
You have been so patient with my anxiety with everything.
You have made me the woman I am today.
Without you, I wouldn't be marrying this great man today.
And honestly, Dad, I just adore you.
So I just need to say to everybody here, my dad planned this dance.
We have not rehearsed it enough.
Yeah, we haven't had a chance to rehearse it.
Because that's very my dad. I don't fully get it. I've been really nervous about it.
But dad, I adore you and I'm going to give it my all. So everybody, without further ado,
here's a father and daughter dance that how my dad sees it. And dad, I would do anything for you
because you would do anything for me and I adore you.
Then go put on the weirdest worst three minutes or whatever,
or it turns into magic,
but try to do it the way your dad can say,
dad, are you good to planet?
Because this is your thing.
And then go, dad, can you put the music together?
Because if my daughter said that to me,
I'll go like, yeah, I'll put it together.
She go, you're gonna do it?
I go, hell yeah, hell yeah.
And then just when you talk to him, be like, I'm fired up.
And then right before, when you say that,
he'll, and you do it with a big smile,
he'll go like this, she's not wrong,
but let's see what we can do.
And then the whole thing is you guys can be laughing together.
The audience can be laughing.
They're on board.
Everybody's in it.
And then what they get to do is see a glimpse of this wonderful
Relationship and no one's judging how the dances that is way better than you guys slow dancing to like my girl
My girl, I think this sincerity the silliness the you given a speech
I know you're a girl with anxiety because what you got to do with anxiety
You got to face the fear and do it anyway
Yeah, yeah, you's true. You can't run from anxiety. The monster gets bigger
You got to go fucking through and you're gonna look back at this and be like, oh
I'm so glad we did something ridiculous where it felt like we were on fire
Like we were dying laughing this setup does everything for you setup The setup does everything. Yeah, keep going, Campbell.
What if we do, what if we do like, kind of a combination?
Talk to us.
And I like have him, like, I have him like, be like, you need to make the, like, can you make the mashup or whatever?
And then be like, like, maybe have like a, like, 30 seconds of like a slow sweet moment and then and
Then we go crazy for like yes, and that's it. Yes. I think that's the dream
Will you pitch that back to me? Joanne? Yes 30 seconds of sweet slow dance
Yes, and then it kicks into high gear and it's just a minute long of all those mashups.
And to me, you get everything.
A minute of insanity, yes.
And you know what you say to prep?
Go, I want you guys to know one part of this dance
is very important to my father, and he choreographed it.
And the first part is mine.
And I want you to guess which part I decided on.
And then it starts very sweet.
That's such a winner.
And that, if you do chillings
and you don't have to give an overly emotional speech
that you're gonna be really nervous about
and it's gonna ruin the party for you,
you're gonna be thinking about it.
All you've gotta say in a handwritten note
is before this, I just wanna say,
this dance with my dad, who I adore and I love so much,
goes in two parts.
One part I've kind of choreographed
that I think is really sweet, and one part my dad did,
and I would like you, I would like you during it to guess
who picked each part.
Yeah, that's it.
And then go like, Daddy, let's do this, I love you, bud.
Yeah, I actually think that this is,
this is like kind of the best of both worlds.
Yes, it is.
And I couldn't really figure out how to like merge them in my mind because I also was like
I don't want to have to mix the music but like being like dad if you want to do that
let's do it but you got to mix it.
You get a minute and then I get a minute and guess what?
You couldn't do it and that's why you called into the podcast.
Yeah.
You did know how to do it. You did know how to do it. You just needed to call into the goddamn podcast.
You just needed a little extra help. And that's why this fucking podcast exists. And then
here's what we need from you. Video of this dance. Yes. Well, obviously. And if you are
texting with your dad about it, screen grabs. Because I want to read it all.
Yeah, gotcha.
You may need to tell him about GarageBand
so that he knows how to put this together.
Dad sounds like a young guy to me.
Okay, you're right.
Give me an age.
He is
53? That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's young. That's what I'm saying.
That when I heard his musical taste you're talking about him like he's an old grandpa. I'm talking about him like he's a goddamn peer. Like he's a goddamn peer. He's a peer.
I'm climbing the sack with a guy that young.
Wait, what? The only thing I'm nervous about. My internet's bad.
Beep, boop, beep, beep. What did you just say?
Bop, boop, bop, bop, beep, beep.
You just said you wanted to climb in bed with Lance.
Buh?
Buh, buh, baa.
All right, so keep going, Campbell,
and then we're gonna get out of here
because we got a winner, go ahead.
Yeah, the only thing I was gonna say
is I think that my
my dad is just like very much of the mindset of like,
you can't teach an old dog new tricks and he doesn't know how to mix music.
But I think that if I like,
figure it out, put it on his plate and I'm like, this is your job now.
Yeah. Like he'll find it. He'll find a way.
Or then also tell him this. You can't teach an old dog new tricks.
Luckily, you ain't an old dog.
You an in your prime dog.
Yeah, you're a man.
He a man who's already 53.
And you're also a human.
And you're a human.
So your saying doesn't make any sense.
And guess what?
You actually can, you can teach an old dog new tricks
if you have pepperoni.
The saying doesn't make sense.
Try to get a 12 year old dog from the pound, make it sit, it'll look at you weird.
Touch its butt and put it down and give it pepperoni, then let it go up and go like this,
sit.
That dog's sitting.
I don't know if you need to touch his butt.
Okay, thank you so much for the call, Campbell.
Follow up with us.
Thank y'all.
Y'all are so awesome.
Thanks for helping.
Appreciate it, Chad.
Congratulations. Okay.
Bye.
Thank you, thank you, bye.
Bye.
Thanks.
Hello.
Hello.
Hey, how are ya?
Good, how are you?
I'm good, what's your name?
My name is Caitlin.
Hey Caitlin, I'm Jake.
Hi, Jake.
You got Gareth and you got the great Jillian Bell.
Hello!
Oh, hi.
Very exciting.
Really quickly, Jillian has directed a feature film.
Ooh.
Jillian, will you just tell us really quickly
when it comes out, what's it called,
and why Caitlin should watch it?
Because I know I'm watching it in two days, and I'm excited.
Thank you.
It's coming out May 9th on Hulu.
It's called Summer of 69.
It's about a sexually inexperienced teenager
who, in order to land the guy of her dreams
last week of school, hires a local stripper
to be her mentor.
And it is played by the amazingly brilliant and funny Chloe Feynman.
She is so funny.
She's so funny and the movie is so fun
and feel good and a little heartwarming.
So please check it out.
So everybody watch it.
I'm gonna watch it.
Jillian is the best.
And Chloe I worked with on the Dink too.
She's so talented. She is so talented.
She's so funny.
Yes.
So good in this role too.
This is her first like lead lead role.
I think she's a killer killer.
Super star.
And I think we got soon to be a heavy hitter director
on our call right now.
Well I-
Just don't stop the acting.
Don't stop the acting.
We were talking a little bit before
but we need you as an improvise. You're too funny. Thank you
Thank you the bad guys stop you Caitlin Caitlin. How old are you?
I am 27 so many young callers today and where you calling from?
I'm calling from New York City. What part?
I'm currently in Midtown. I live in the Bronx. You live in the Bronx? You from
the Bronx? You just moved up there? No, I just moved up there. I'm actually from New
Jersey originally. Wow, chose the Bronx. That wasn't part of my year or 2000s. Nobody was
living in the Bronx. Everyone was Brooklyn and Queens. It's really cool. So 27 New York City. We're just gonna say you from the Bronx
What's your favorite meal
Pasta I love it so much. I even named my cat after it
The info we wanted your cat's name is pasta. How many cats you got? Yeah, just one one
Yeah, that's gonna cat tabby cat Oh
very fat Cat named pasta what a dream so Caitlin, what's your issue today?
Okay, so I'm calling because
My partner and I we've been together for four years
pasta is our joint cat and
We just moved to this building in the Bronx in
November and we love to play tennis together and this building actually has
like a health club downstairs and so we play we get to play a lot more than we
used to like in the winter and stuff because it's indoors and so one of the
things we love to do together is play tennis. Cool. And my and I've also like always played with my mom and she came up with this thing during
the pandemic when we were playing a lot called the deuce dance, which is basically when the score
gets deduced, you like take it a little, like you do a little wiggle. And it originated, I think,
because we're like not supposed to be playing on these
courts. And so we didn't want to yell the score. And so that we did the dance to tell
each other what the score was when it was deuce. But it's just became this thing now
where if I don't do like, I can't not do the deuce dance. And my partner, when we first
started playing together, he would do it. And now it's been four years and he's like I'm not doing that. And it came to a head the other day we were playing and I got really upset
that he wanted to do the deuce dance because I was like it shows to me that like you know hey
you're having a good time deuce is like you know when it's when it's tied it's like maybe a little
tense depending on you know how many games everyone. So to me, the dance is like to kind of tell your partner, like, hey, I'm having fun.
It's not, it relieves the tension a little bit.
So yeah, I guess my specific question is like how to get him to want to do the deuce dance
again.
Ooh, I think there's a deeper question here.
No, we're talking, Jillian. What's your deeper question?
I think the deeper question is,
why do you feel there needs to be, um,
from him or her, uh, a deuce dance?
Well, because it means something to her and her mom,
and she just wants him to assimilate into her traditions.
Because if you're going to be her partner, you got to do it her way.
Is there any truth to this, Caitlin?
Um, yeah, there is.
How many Caitlin, how many deuce dances are there in your relationship?
Ooh.
Wait, what does that mean?
You know what it means, Caitlin.
I mean, I mean, at night, is it, are you the one that picks the TV shows?
Are you the one that decides what's gonna be for dinner?
Have you stylized your apartment?
Mmm.
Well, I don't, yeah, I don't really, I definitely don't decide what's gonna be for dinner, because
he like cooks every night, he loves cooking.
Yeah, I see what you mean.
But there's a question for you for real, Kailin.
And we're with you on this.
This is not a-
We're not against you.
No, we're just getting intel, but don't feel defensive, because we're with you.
But here's a question.
If, what are we calling your what's your
partner's name
His name's Luke Luke if you and Luke were on a balancing scale
All right, and you had a bunch of mini pasta cats on each side and each side had a hundred mini pasta cats
And it was perfectly balanced
Right each cat weighs exactly the same. Let's say 500 pounds. Whoa had 100 mini pasta cats and it was perfectly balanced. Right?
Each cat weighs exactly the same.
Let's say 500 pounds.
Whoa.
Just trying to get a realistic image here, Jillian.
They're big.
It's big.
Depends on big.
Let's not get judgy.
Let's not put our judgments on pasta's beautiful body.
What?
So you've got 500 pastas on one,
500 pastas on the other, yeah?
If each side means control of the relationship, and let's not get into that, what does control mean? We all know these words.
Who is in, who's got more pastas on this side, you or Luke?
Hmm. I guess in different areas, we have them in different areas so like what we
have for dinner or you know what we're doing on the day to day where we're
going out I I probably have I probably have a few more pastas on my side. Thank you for being honest.
How many?
If there's, you each started with let's say a hundred, just to keep the math clean.
Are you like 102 to 98?
Let's be honest here.
Are you a few more pastas than that?
Um, so we each start with a hundred.
I'm probably at like, yeah, probably like 115.
Fair. And he's about 85.
That's, yes. I can't do math, but yeah.
And so, and then the deuce dance to you is so basic. Just shake your hips on a deuce.
But for some reason he's made a stand and you're like, this is the stand?
The deuce dance, Luke?
Great.
I'm 115, you're 85, pal.
If we're gonna have kids and do this whole thing,
you can't put a stand on the deuce dance.
I'm gonna dress us all up
in matching Christmas clothes one day.
Is any part of his issue that the deuce dance sounds like
something you do when you shit no no we don't we don't like say we're doing the
deuce dance as we're doing it it's just sort of like a little bit of hip you
know that would be my problem yeah okay and so you do a little dance, it's brief, and he stopped.
And I got a question for you.
Is he a guy who goes along with a lot of the kind of arbitrary Caitlin rules?
Such as if you do something fun when you were a kid, like for example, my family growing
up for holidays, you know, my mom got us gifts, but it wasn't like we weren't all drinking hot cocoa and
matching gear.
You know, we knew what it was and we knew there wasn't a fat man who came down the fireplace.
We knew it was Eve Jay and put it on a credit card.
But that's not the vibe in my house.
In my house, we all dress up and match and close.
That took a few years for Jay.
It did?
Yeah.
And I'm, my fiance's name is also Luke,
and you should see the first Christmas photo.
He is so uncomfortable in the pajamas we put him in.
And I think that as he gets more comfortable,
he will draw a line there.
Or just pick out which ones he would like.
Work for him.
Yes, yes.
But there is the beginning when
you get in a relationship you go like, oh we're leaning into your stuff more. And 27
is right at that point where you're like at 25 everybody's so cool. And at 27 you're like,
I'm not that cool. I like a deuce dance and I want my partner to too. But there's also
lines that they got to go but that's too far so
Are we at a rubber meets the road with the deuce dance or?
Are we being way too dramatic on this call?
We're diving way too deep because our last call got deep So now we're pretending to be dr. Phil and Sally Jesse Raphael and Gareth because his audio is not good isn't contributed as much
So he doesn't get a character, but I'll say Montell Williams
Just to be clear. I'm dr. Phil correct a hundred percent. Okay, okay
But so are we on the right track? Are we all wrong track? And when you're hearing this are you thinking?
Yeah, you're on the right track. I definitely I definitely took it seriously in the moment like perhaps more seriously
no no I took it very seriously in the moment because I was building it to be something
bigger and the truth is he does depending on the thing like he does go along with a lot of good amount of stuff. To me, it's just like my
family is really goofy. And so and I'm really goofy. And together we we can be goofy in moments
too. Like we definitely have our silly moments. And so I was a little like we are silly. I know
you can be silly. So why aren't you doing the silly thing? But he did say in the moment like that's your thing with your mom
And I thought it had become like our thing. But I think that
Yeah, cuz we also do all play together
So now I'm like when we do doubles and my mom and I are shaking our little butt like is he gonna do it with us?
He might not and and that's going to be okay.
And can I offer two pitches to you?
Can I offer two pitches to you?
Please.
One is you say to him, look, the deuce dance is weirdly important to me.
It just makes me happy.
Is there a way that you can do it with me
and then I can also do some other thing with you
that's very important to you that just feels wild
or silly or ridiculous, or you can make me do
the stupidest one so that it's embarrassing for me,
but I have to do it now during our tennis matches.
Or you can say, hey, this one feels like you really want it to just be me and my mom.
And I'm, I'll respect that boundary, but maybe we can have a tradition of our own
that's outside of tennis.
That's like kind of fun for us.
Like we host a game night every night or every once a month, but we wear top hats
with all our friends, you know, something silly, but just like. Can I pitch on your pitch?
Yes.
I think you're very close to something
that I'm gonna try to sign off on too.
Okay.
So, Caitlin, what if we do something like this?
You and your mom do this stupid do-sof, but you like it.
You shake your little butts on deuce.
It'd be great if Luke shook his little butt too,
because it's fun as hell, and it's silly.
Just shake your little butt, Luke.
And for some reason, Luke doesn't wanna shake his little butt,
but you want Luke to shake his little butt
with you and your mom, because it's fun.
But Luke doesn't wanna shake his little butt,
but you would love him to shake his little butt.
So maybe we do this.
You say to Luke on Deuce,
if you don't wanna shake that little butt,
what do you wanna do?
Do you wanna point at me?
Do you wanna wag a finger?
Do you wanna shake your head?
What can you do while I'm doing the Deuce dance
that feels like your version of the Deuce dance?
Just so I know you're acknowledging it,
you can do whatever, you can fake tip your hat,
you could do an Icaramba, where you look at the sky with two fingers up.
What do you wanna do that feels like your version
of the deuce dance, but maybe as a guy,
you don't wanna shake your little butt.
So maybe the shaking the butt is the mom and daughter,
but the boyfriend guy version is more like a, a, yeah, yeah.
Finger point.
Do you know what I'm saying?
What is, if this is a dance, what's your role in the dance, Luke?
And all I'm asking you to do is when Deuce comes, just do that for a second, but
you can pick your own version of your Deuce dance.
Yeah, that is a good idea.
I am a little worried that he like when I pressed him about
it, he said that because it's deuce and because it's tense that like he doesn't like to like
to lose focus on that moment. You know what he could do? Wipe the sweat off his brow.
So you're getting silly, he's getting focused. Mm, or he takes a water break.
He gets a little water break and he squirts it over in your direction so that you're dancing
in the deuce.
That breaks a lot, but that breaks a lot of focus.
Okay, all right, all right.
I want something fast for him.
Just you're being silly, he's wanting to get more focused.
So how about he just does like a, sl his face where he'd like the competitor, like he takes two hands, does like the Kevin from Home Alone just goes like, game time.
Yeah, that's true.
He can do whatever he wants on his dance. You're just giving him the freedom and saying, will you do something with me? Because in my family family we view it as like a traditional halftime moment
Will you just be part of it, but you could do your version of it?
Yeah, that's that is a good idea I like you know selfishly I want it to be a little bit silly so that we have
The same energy
No, but you don't have to have the same energy because you're also competitors
Isn't that what love is and your're and you're and your partners and
Partners don't always want to do the same thing like but you're doing something together
Yeah, yeah, the thing that you're doing together is tennis. Yes
Gareth, what do you think here pal? Well, I I like what we're saying. I my pitch would be
Because I get what he's saying. so why don't we get him a shirt
that on the back says Deuce and he can kind of point his thumb back to it. Love it.
And that kind of maintains the energy of the competition,
but it also is a signal to you that you can now be silly and do your Deuce dance.
And I like that. And if it's not a shirt, if you don't want to commit to it,
he can just put two fingers in the air.
You really love the pointing to the sky thing.
I like something just real easy for Luke
that gives really minimal effort,
that while you're shaking, he just puts two up.
Caitlin, I have to be rude and jump off
because I'm the rudest, but I am gonna let,
I feel like these gentlemen have this answer for you.
But before you go really quickly,
Kaitlin, what are you gonna do?
I think I really like this shirt idea
and I do like this idea.
I like all the ideas.
I wanna do all of them.
I wanna get him a shirt, but I also want him to like,
I wanna give him the option where maybe he doesn't do the deuce dance, but there's
something else silly that like, or he, if he does the deuce dance, then I'll do something
silly that he wants me to do that I don't want to do. I know probably is going to be
like letting him wipe his sweat on my face or something.
Yeah. Great.
Um, cause he always wants to do that. And then if not that, then
I think that I emotionally will make peace with him doing his own thing. Um, that's not
shaking the butt, but like whether it's two fingers and letting him kind of pick it and
be like, cause you know, it's traditional to say the score out loud. And so that's like
acknowledging the score. We always do that. So the what's fun about the dance is that it's like a little spice, a little extra.
I think that sounds perfect. You could just pitch him all the things we just pitched you
as options and then say, what do you say? Yeah. Yeah, I think I think I am going to
do that. I think I'm going to get him. gonna I'm gonna let him pick of those of those options
I do like this idea of like a like it's not a shirt like a wristband or something like a sweatband
On it so that he could wear it every single time and not have to worry about cleaning it
Yeah, something really easy. You could even make them a laminated deuce card
Yeah something really easy. You could even make him a laminated deuce card. Yep. He could have a deuce kerchief. Like a handkerchief with deuce on it and every
time he wipes his brow it's the deuce signal. That's right.
That's true. Yeah, I like that too. It depends on how many deuce... if we start tying up
every single game we get like a million deuces in a game that might be funny.
You're nuts. Come on.
But we're just trying to keep it really simple for Luke that feels really satisfying for you.
Yeah.
And that is not hard to figure out together. You guys can nail that one.
I also think if you come to the table with merch and you're sort of like, I made this for you because I want
you to feel included and do your own thing. I think that helps too. I do too. Yeah, I
think I might lead with that one. I might make something and then and then present it
along with the other options that you guys gave about like squirting. Yeah, putting me
with water or something. I think that is exactly right.
I kind of like the wristbands.
If they say deuce on them, I like that.
I don't want to say he does the Wonder Woman.
Don't tell him I said that, but he kind of does the Wonder Woman.
Like he puts his wrists together.
That could be good.
But I think if you come with that, there's some thought behind it.
You recognize that the deuce dance is dead for him and that's okay.
I think so too.
Yeah, for sure. That makes a lot of sense. I'm gonna do that. So I got a question for you.
Do you feel confident that you got a good game plan then it's gonna work? I do. I
do. Yeah. I think you're golden. I do too. And I think and and honestly I think the
you know look tennis is all about love
Sorry fumbled that that could have been cleaner
I can see your face Jake and I can see it's not happy and now he's just Gareth is trying to get an edit
And end of episode laugh line, and he's decided to just finish it himself without even letting me respond
Yeah, I saw your face
See you can't see me, I can see you.
And I saw what you're...
Don't lie to me.
You know what you did?
You just deuce danced me.
That's true.
You're the Caitlin and the Luke.
The way you fully right there.
Exactly.
That's exactly what just happened.
I think that is correct.
So, Caitlin, you feeling good?
Oh, no.
Yeah, it's tough.
Yes, definitely.
And I'm sorry you got deuce danced.
It's tough.
I really empathize with your danced. It's tough.
I really empathize with your position.
It's hurtful.
Alright, why don't you just shake your little butts?
Stop saying that!
Get Jacob's sweatband.
That is good Lord.
Alright, Kaylin, we appreciate the call, bud.
Thank you, Kaylin.
Oh, thank you so much.
Thank you, thank you so much. Thank you, pal.
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