We're Here to Help - 189: Let's Get Outta the Garage Together

Episode Date: July 16, 2025

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This is a HeadGum Podcast. And we are back. Kierif, we got a special one. We're here to help. And we are back. Gareth, we got a special one. We really do. I mean, I think you said it, like we both maybe came in a little lower energy to start and then it just started ripping and roaring. And I mean, this is a kind of departure, but if people like this, we definitely plan on doing a little bit more. You want to set it up?

Yeah, we go back into the dating game. We've got our shows turning a little bit into like the Bachelor. So now we had our first Bachelor, now we're doing the spin-off soon. We're going to do like Senior Bachelors or whatever they're doing now with the Golden Bachelors. Which is by the way, the funniest premise

to a thing I've ever heard. Oh, did I tell you what Lamorne did to me? No. On his podcast. No. This was pretty funny. I was in Alaska with Anna Konkle, we were driving, and I get a call from Lamorne and he and I are text buddies.

So I'll call, you go like, everything, like if you called me at two in the afternoon, I'm like, are you okay? Yeah. And he goes, yo, I just got a crazy opportunity. I got offered something and I and I'm curious to see what you think. It's a lot of money. And ABC has asked me to be the next bachelor. has asked me to be the next bachelor. And I would have to, yeah, and I would have to live in this mansion

for 10 weeks. Okay, keep going. It's $13 million. Yeah, that's basically the whole gist of it. And I think it shoots, they're screwing around with the location, but it shoots either here in town or Cabo somewhere tropical at some house.

So I'm gonna give you real advice then on it. Okay. Knowing you and knowing, and take away sensitivity of this because this is real, because you know that I care about you. Yeah. You like the idea of being more famous and this will make you very famous the more. This might put you in another universe, man.

Dude, so you think I should do it? I kind of think you should do it. I mean, I know I wouldn't do it, but I don't like the attention. You say you don't like it, but you walk out the house, don't you? If you didn't like it, if you didn't like this shit,

Jake, you wouldn't leave the house. You were one of the most famous people. You don't like it. I think you take the money, man. Okay, but the catch, oh yeah, because they know I'm in the comedy business, the catch is half the women are younger, but half the women are 60 and up.

That's a joke. That's real. That's real. Is this a joke? No, that's real. 60 and up. Yeah, I love it. Half the day women, they're like between 21 and 25, and they're. 68 up. Yeah, I love it. I have to date women, they're like between 21 and 25

and there's 68 up. So there's no women in my age range. Are you fucking with me? Lamar, they might be fucking with you, Lamar. Jake, I got news for you. I'm fucking with you and you're on my podcast. Hey! Hey!

So funny. I'm fucking with you and you're on my podcast. I am! I am! I am! I am! I am! So funny. But for our show today, I gotta say, man, I think Nat Attack, Sherlock, this was some good producing. It truly was. And I think we maybe got a little better at finding our way through it. Yes.

But what's funny is that we do, we say this a lot, like we really want to help people. And this one felt very genuinely like, you know, trying to help someone who had been on the show. And, uh, absolutely, you know, it's, it's really interesting to watch too, to watch like dudes suss out what they would do with other dudes. It also shows you that men like when it comes to like planning stuff, that's always a gripe that like people in relationships with dudes have. It is like you're a lot of times like, I don't know. I mean, it'd be cool to, you know, be in a car and go somewhere.

That'd be awesome. But I'll be in a garage. We'll do another garage. Get ready for the theme of garage. People are just the strangest. Strange, but it's great. It's really compelling. It's definitely funny.

And I will say mid-grade through season two, our show is going totally off the rails. People seem to like that though. People seem to- Either way, we can't control it anymore. I think we just do what we like, you know But Eric, so everybody was buzzing about the Eric and Steve episode We're gonna start doing more of those. Mm-hmm. I think we're just entering we're done with the re-releases

We've heard you everybody got so goddamn mad at him. We thought what's the downside? Yeah, we just thought a little something for you, but. We were doing, we actually only did one a week. We're like, let's do two a week. It reminds me of this. When I worked at this restaurant in Boston called Legal Seafood, I would like, It's the worst name for a restaurant of all time. Everyone would come in and be like,

is there illegal seafood? And also, why are you advertising for that? We are assuming it's legal. Yeah. Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. It's like on the first day being like, no STDs. But so, so I used to work there and then, and every, you know, I'd walk, it was in Boston. So I'd walk through like the Boston Common and I would, I would put in a bag, like a to go bag, like, you know, whatever sides, like bread and whatever sides. And sometimes I walked through the common and the bag said legal seafood and it had a lobster

on it. And then there were just a bunch of sides. And I go up to people who were in there and I'd be like, do you want some food? And they'd be like, oh, and then I'd be handing them stuff and they'd be like, where's the lobster? And I'd be like, well, there's no lobster. It's just other stuff. And they'd be like, yeah, I'm good. I was like, well, it's something You don't want something for free That's what the rereleases feel like people like yeah, nah leave us alone I don't know where that is the truth when you're giving away free stuff and somebody goes like what else you got? Yeah, you're like buddy

somebody goes like, what else you got? Yeah, you're like, buddy, I'm trying, I'm making some effort. Can I get it, no, but I got this sandwich that hasn't been touched, what's on it? I'm not selling it, I'm not advertising for the sandwich. Yeah, like take it or whatever. Turkey, cheese, and then they go, mustard? Again, I don't.

I'm not a Subway, I just, I thought it was nice. I'm going to eat it. I'm going to hear it. I was planning on eating it when I got home, but I thought you might need it more. And they put you in a position where you're trying to convince them it's a good sandwich. And I'm like, I won't do that. Let's do halfsies. We'll see. I'll go get you some mustard. I go, you know, the bread is toasted. Yeah, I got it toasted. It's a quiz. I would say the cheese is melted. I just, I don't know.

I mean, some people would be very excited. Anyway, that's the re-releases. So to your point, we've moved on and we might be finding some new wrinkles, but. Yeah, right. I'm excited to have Eric and Steve on more. Oh, yeah. We both, the four of us have now known each other probably 20 years. And we say behind their backs a lot, but they're as funny as anybody in the game. I think they proved it. If people haven't

listened to that, they should. We're going to do more. There's some stuff we didn't even finish talking about on that episode that we'll pick up. So to your point, I mean, we're just gonna keep finding things that we think are fun and we're still doing the regular stuff. But also- The Monday will never change. The Monday will always be Gareth and I and callers.

And it's because Gareth and I love that. We're doing that. Wednesdays will always be sometimes with Gareth and a guest, sometimes being a guest, sometimes us together, sometimes a weird dating game, sometimes a chat. It's always changing. But we have heard the complaint of re-releases. We thought the curation of it could be fun.

For those writing in and saying, don't be bullied by the haters. Do what you want. The reality is it's not, it's entertainment. The fodder back and forth has been so entertaining to do and to change the show based off the people has been a joy. But last but not least, I want to go back to one other thing we had started touching on with the guys, with the Eric and the Steve. But Steve but I will say Gareth you and I have you

know we're both kind of doing our thing established in our galaxies Steve's in his world you know Eric is more than a dramatic actor but when you and I will do other people's pods and I entered this podcast space with you but about two years ago now, and we saw the big players, I don't think those people are funnier than Steve and Eric. You know, it's one of the things that's so weird about the way the business is changing

and why podcasts are kind of great is because people who had to sort of do what other people told can now be themselves. And Steve and Eric are two guys who you, I mean, truly you are like nonstop laughing. And you kind of are like, well, why doesn't that side get to shine? Agreed.

And then we've kind of like, you know, tinkered around with it a little bit since we started doing this. But to do that all together and see the response to be very positive, it's like, well yeah, you're buckle up by the way. Those two are wild boys. All right, well we got a real winner today. Yeah. If you guys like it as always, comment where you comment, tell people about the show. Yes. It really does help. Yep. Help spread the word. All that

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Hello. Hey, Sam. Hi. Hi, welcome back. Thank you. How are you feeling? Pretty good. Okay.

It's good to be back. This is a big day for you. Well, we were thinking maybe Natalie will sort of reintroduce what this is. So Nat Attack, who does attack on and off air. Do you want to remind people what we're doing here today? Yeah. So we're doing round two of the friendship game and our new contestant is Sam who many felt did not get a fair shot. And Natalie you felt like he didn't get a fair shot. No I

mean you said me before we got on you said me and some of the call emailers felt like he just got steamrolled because he said he never listened to the show, he didn't have kids, and all we commented on him was that he liked pizza or something. Yes, that was the one. Is that correct? The one fact, yeah. So Sam, you're back. We have built your friendship game, friend.

So let's hear a little bit about you. Cause all I remember about you is that you liked pizza and you had never heard the show. You didn't like golf and you were a terrible. It was a problem for the guy who called in. I mean, the guy who called in loved the show, wanted a golf partner. And literally the guys, one of the guys questions was,

what's your favorite episode? And Sammy's like, never heard it. I know. It didn't give me the opportunity to do Dead Air for like two minutes. Did we kill you? I remember we were doing a thing where we were really killing people with Dead Air for you. The guy was killed. Yeah. That was a lot of fun.

Well, it's an interesting. It brings up an interesting question, which is, so you hadn't listened to the show when you came on the first time, Sam. You've had quite a break in between episodes. Have you been consuming the show? Yeah, I've been listening to a couple episodes. Just a couple. It's just a terrible reaction. You're just not a fan.

It's a terrible reaction. We're doing all this for him. Let me ask you a question, Sam. Sam, stop. Sam, doing all this for him. Let me ask you a question, Sam. Sam, stop. Sam, stop. What don't you like about the show? Yeah, let's go. Come on. It's okay.

I love the show. There's just a lot of competition for people's time right now. I'm three hours away from finishing Panamara Krista right now. Well, that answer makes me feel a little better, to be quite honest with you. What is that? We're going for different demos. The Count of Monte Cristo. Okay. And are you listening to it or reading it?

Listening to it. So you're, how about this? Read that and listen to this. This will never be a book. I don't think he's archaic. I really don't think that he's, he's re he wants to listen to the Count of Monte Cristo. But let's do this, Sam.

So you live in Fullerton, correct? Correct. You just moved there from where again? I'm from Colorado. Colorado. All right. What part of Colorado? I grew up in Boulder, but I lived in Denver for class.

Cool. So you've lived in Denver for class. So you've lived in some cool areas, man. And what do you do for work, Sam? I'm a cloud engineer for a fiend tech company. You said clown engineer? I heard clown. I'm a cloud engineer. Oh, cloud.

We've built the world's greatest clowns. So Sam, what are you looking for in a friend? You know someone that Like it can go like bowling with or hold on do you like bowling or later? You're gonna say you don't like bowling. Yeah I'm just getting back into bowling. I'm trying to like figure out how do that spin bowl. Yeah, okay. Yeah, you get it. We're from the Midwest. We know the spin. I can do the spin. We've already talked about this before.

I had my friend out of corroborate my 212. Alright, so you like bowling. I mean, are you looking for someone who... Are you married, Sam? Are you single? Yeah? No kids Hey, Sammy, are you guys gonna have kids are you doing the cool choice of saying like we're married we're committed to each other No kids. Yeah, I think we're having a great time right now. I just don't think we want to Ruin that with the kids.

That's kind of Garrett's vibe. Okay, so you're pretty open. You just kind of want someone in your area, maybe open to bowling activities like that. Are there any no's for you when it comes to a friend? Are there any things we should be waiting to hear? Fans of we're here to help. Yep. Seems like you hate those, but outside of that red flag, anything else?

Mostly just like socially awkward people who are just really don't connect with You like to drink okay, let me ask you a question Sam While we do this are you ready to do some rapid-fire questions to the guests? Yeah, okay, so just keep thinking in the back head. If you got a notepad ahead of you, just put down some really simple questions in case we shoot it to you. All right. Thanks, buddy. All right.

I think we should mention your blacksmithing because that was something that all the listeners were just really into. That's why you liked it, Natalie. Yeah. There it is. You got a thing for blacksmith why you liked it Natalie. Yeah Thing for blacks there it is I don't know if that's accurate, but by the way, you just looked up which tells me it's pretty accurate agreed Is that the tell she's also doing like her hand on her chin? I don't know if I really am into blacksmith

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you just did I just did. I mean, is it like something I'm into? I don't know. I can tell. Jake plays cards. Jake goes, Jake, Jake. I'm all in. All in, baby, you got nothing. I'm all in, she's bluffing.

Okay, so you're a blacksmith. What does that mean, Sam? What do you do? It's like, I wouldn't say like I'm a professional blacksmith, but it's definitely a hobby of mine. I make like, I've made a few knives. That's cool as hell. Crocodile doesn't need knives, real knives or small knives?

I like mid-size knives. Sam, I just want to warn you. Now this is a knife. Sam, we're just, I just want to warn you pretty soon. Jake's going to start asking you about gorillas and steel gorillas. So just skirt that because we got to get to this game. So just ignore that. And you laugh, but you have no idea what I'm talking about because you don't listen to the show.

So, okay. Well, what is the best way to do this, Natalie? Should we get them in all at the same time? Like last time kind of dating game style? Yeah, I think that was fun. Hey, Sam, do you make anything that could live outside like an outdoor animal? This is what I was telling you to worry. I was worried about so just What's the biggest thing you can make? No, you just make little knives. Okay. Yeah, could you make a little gorilla?

All right, let's bring them on We're gonna do- Bring out our victims Let's let them in one at a time so they can introduce themselves What's the littlest gorilla you could make me if I was willing to spend some money? Let's say money's not an object. How tiny could you make? Forget about money for a second, Sam. I'm talking about as many little gorillas as you could make it a year.

If you were 15 hours a day, could you make five hundred one inch gorillas? Five hundred. All right. Can we times that by 10? I'm going to need to be in that room. I'm going to I'll get I'll get the capital and I'll get the workers. You run the show, brother. I just need a foreman on this project. That's all I'm looking for. I just need someone to run it.

I already have the factory. I'm working a lot. I need someone to run the factory. So Sam, would you want to eat at the bowling alley or get dinner? No way you got a 212. Bowling alley. You want to eat at the bowling alley. I had a friend on the show corroborated it. That wasn't a friend. That was a 90 year old man. Sam, you got a 212. The bowling alley. You want to eat at the bowling alley. I had a friend on the show, corroborated it.

That wasn't a friend, that was a 90 year old man. Sam, I got a 212 once, what do you think of that? That's pretty good. Thank you. I think that's better than I've ever had. It's also better than Gareth ever had. It's wrong. I agree, I really don't think so.

She's such a little liar. Why would I lie about it? Whichever way the wind blows, Gareth will do it. That is so untrue. So you want to go bowling? You want to eat at the bowling alley? Then what? You want to go to a bar after?

What's the night? Because we got to kind of see if these guys are going to fit in to becoming your bowling partner, right? I agree. You can't be wishy washy. Oh, karaoke. OK. And what kind of songs do you like in a buddy to do? Do you like a guy who's overly sincere? Do you like a guy who's jokey?

You like a guy who does a ballad if you were gonna have like a dream best friend. What's he singing? We're we're doing all the hits in the early 2000s Okay, I love where you're going are you guys doing them as duets? Yeah, possible. That's a shock. Hips don't lie. Great duet. Cool.

This is quite a catalyst. Now I got a question. If you had your dream buddy in a Polaroid with you guys singing karaoke, how's he dressed? Definitely try clothes on. Yeah, I'd assume so. Okay. Maybe not cargo shorts. Okay, that's all we needed.

There you go. No cargo. Now you're against the 2000s vibe. One more quick question, Sam, and then we should start getting them in. You probably had a good buddy in Boulder when you were back there that you probably miss. What did you guys do for fun? We went to a dive bar and played the coin pusher machine. Okay, interesting.

So now one question. So Sam, now I need to just talk to Gareth for a second. I do too. So Gareth, how do you wanna run this? So we're gonna have three people come in We can't just have it be wishy-washy. We got to be control freaks. Do you want to be Gil? Or do you want to be going Sam? It would be good I mean it would probably good for you to come up with a question that you want to ask them something a little more I got one. Okay, great

Is that you want to ask them something a little more. I got one. Okay, great. So first question is... Who are you? Tell us something about yourself. And then second question is what's your dream friendship date? Yeah, let's say you're lucky enough to actually win this competition. What would you take Sam out to do? What are you going to do? And we'll see if we get lucky and any of them pair up. And then third is Sam's question.

Third we'll throw to Sam. So now, Gareth, I'll be the Chuck Worley, the kind of grounded straight, keeping it together. Okay. And you are our Gilly. Okay. So I'm gonna start us. Okay.

And then I will go to you. Okay. It's so good to see you. Tell me what it's like to be you. All right. How you doing, Gil? Ah, pretty good over there. What was your name, Chuck?

Is that what it was? Yeah, Chuck, pretty good. Excited to hook Sam up with a really good friend today. Well, this is episode two. Friendship's important. Male friendship has been on the decline. Time is important. Men are experiencing loneliness on a level they never had at times. That is important. Male friendship has been on the decline. Time is important.

Men are experiencing loneliness on a level they never had at time. That's important. Let's not get into that. So here we go. We've got our first friend in. Contestant number one, Trevor, are you with us? Yes, sir. Trevor, hi.

We're excited to maybe link you up with Sam here today. Should we just bring in everyone at once, once Jake and then maybe run through it? I said I was gonna take the lead. Yeah Then you grab the reins Well to be fair Jake you gotta remember I've been locked in the attic There's a reason you're like remember I said I was gonna get it started and I'll go to you as soon as he came He's talking about Jake it's all coming back to me.

Jake, why don't you take the lead, buddy? All right. Three, two back to one. Trevor, how you doing, sir? Oh, I'm fantastic. How are you guys? Great. We're excited for you to be here.

And can I ask you a little bit about yourself? Can you give us your age, your name, where you live and a little bit about us that we don't know? Yeah. Yeah. As you know, my name is Trevor. I'm 34. I live in I live in Eagle Rock, Los Angeles I am married with no children and having a great time Eagle Rocks a wonderful place. Do you sure don't forget about the time though?

Like pepper and salt together. Let's give it back. Is it pepper and pepper? Who likes that? Come on. Everybody. You ever heard of pepper steak? I love a bit of pepper on it. Hey, Trevor, do you listen to the show? Is this your first time listening?

Did your girlfriend tell you or your wife what's happening here? No, no, no. I'll be straight with you. I'm a big fan of you guys. I've probably listened to a dozen or two episodes. I'm not your whole library deep just yet, but I know the gist, I know the lay of the land. A dozen will do it, a dozen will do it. Okay, great, let's bring on contestant number two.

And maybe listen to more after this, Trevor. We're really hooking you up and giving you a spotlight, so pay it back. Ha ha ha ha. Go ahead, Jake. Absolutely, absolutely. Gu Guest number two come on in. Hi. Hi, can we get your name please? Sure, my name is Tommy Tough Knuckles. Tommy Tough Knuckles? Oh boy. Hey girl, thoughts? I'll tell you what Jake, I love a nickname but this guy sounds like he either belongs in the Bob or the Dick Tracy universe. I don't know if I love it or, but this guy sounds like he either belongs in the Bob or the Dick Tracy universe

I don't know if I love it or hate it, but I'll tell you something my nipples are out So Tommy tough knuckles who gave you that nickname myself Jake, I'll tell you what, this guy may as well be draped in a red flag. That is a shocking response. That is a red... That is as red of a flag as you can get for a mandarin. China's flag isn't as red as what this guy just said. So tell me, Tough Knuckles, where are you from, bud? I live in Fullerton.

Oh, you're right in Fullerton. Okay, and how old are you? I'm 31, turning 32 at the end of this month. I got it. You married single. What's your story at home? I'm in a relationship, been in one for six years, seven years in October. What are we thinking about marriage, Tommy Tough Knuckles?

We'll talk about that bridge when we get there. Now I get it. We'll talk about that later. Can't fit a ring on that tough knuckle with Jake. I get it Tommy. Thank you so much Tommy. We're excited to get to know you more, but let's go to contestant number three. Hello.

Hello. Contestant number three. Hi, can we get your name please? Uh, Kerry. Kerry K-E-R-R-Y? Uh, C-A-R-E-Y. R E Y. C A R E Y. What kind of name is that? I believe it's Irish.

That a boy. Were you born and raised in the States or on the other side of the pond? No, I'm from California, from Los Angeles. What part of LA, Cary? Mostly the Valley. Great. The Camanoaks area. Sure, beautiful. Where are you living now? What part of LA, Kerry? Mostly the Valley. Great.

The Human Oaks area. Sure, beautiful. Where are you living now? I'm in the South Bay, like Hawthorne. Great. And you're a married man? You're a single man? I'm single.

Cool. And about what age do you walk around at, Kerry? 37. 37 years young. And Kerry, one thing about you that we don't know. Could be anything. Just one thing. First thing.

Yeah, sorry. I work as a professional industrial pipe welder. Cool. So does Gil. Well, I used to, Jake, that I picked up a couple hours recently because the broadcasting business has been under attack. These enormous conglomerations have been kind of eliminating the old-timey local... Back to you, Gary. Go ahead. Absolutely.

Yeah, Gill's actually pretty known in our industry, so I'm familiar with him. Oh, well, thank you, Gary. Well, you know, they used to call me Gilly pipes. There's a reason. And it's not because I used to carry them. It's because I had them on my arms. Jacked and loaded. Natalie, your face needs to stop doing whatever it's doing. Go ahead, Jake. So we've got Trevor. We've got Tommy Tough Knuckles and we've got Carrie the Pipe Loader. Correct.

Yeah. Trevor, you're the only guy here without a nickname. Do you wanna give yourself one? We got the Pipe Loader, we got Tough Knuckles. Trevor, what can you call yourself? Let's just go with Trevor. Let's be different. Ooh, I like it, I like it.

So now what we're gonna do everybody is each of you are going to get a question That gil is going to ask I'm going to direct it to the person there. You got about let's say 71 seconds to answer it very specific check love it. We are going to hear where we're at that We're going to ask another round of questions then our Friend our guy you guys are trying to

win today is Sam is gonna ask a question then we're gonna decide who goes on this friendship date to all three of you in real world no joke no podcast would you guys like to make a friend in Fullerton and have a buddy and go on a buddy date and see what happens this is something you guys are all interested in. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Okay, great.

So then why don't we start the show? Gil, go ahead. Well, as we all know, today we're here vying for one man's friendship. Please welcome to the show, Sam. Sam, say hi to your three lovely friend contestants here Hey Sam is a Sam's into hammering steel when he's working and he also loves to live in that era in his car That's why he's always listening to the what the hell was that book is listening to Jake man in the iron mask

Who gives a shit the point is he doesn't listen to the podcast So if your friend needs to listen to we're here to help. Sam may not be for you. Sam Wright, you haven't listened to any episodes. Like one or two. What a nightmare. OK, now we're actually going to run through what your ideal date would be with Sam. We want to find out if you had carte blanche, you could take Sam out for a night on the town.

What would you do? Sam, I think the first person we should hear from is obviously the guy who came out swinging as he always does. Tommy Toughknuckles, you are picking up Sam for a dream friend hang. What does the night look like? And Tommy, you've got 71 seconds, which will be uninterrupted. Oh, dang, that's a long time. Well, I listened to the last episode, so I know 71 seconds is a long time, so I'm going to give a little speech, I guess. You must be thinking, who's this young guy with a chip on his shoulder and his heart

on his sleeve? Well, you just want to hang out. I'm into the nerdy crafting hobbies too. I have 3D friends, my girlfriend does cosplay, so we're constantly building different projects, working on different crafts. So I guess an ideal friendship hangout would be like grab a couple cold ones, work on a project, whether it be something in your garage, something in my apartment, finish up a project, catch a local show. I like a lot of music.

I like going to really bad comedy shows. I like just hanging around, have a couple beers, joke around. I'm like a dumb big guy. Like I gave myself the nickname Tommy Tough Knuckles. I'm not tough. I'm just a retired old punk rock guy. So yeah, I think just like working on a project together. I think that's when you really get to know somebody. You got 11 seconds. 11 seconds.

I'm right in Fullerton. You don't have to drive much. First of all, I want to say, Tommy, very good job. Very good job. Yeah. Tommy wants you to come over to his house to do a project for free and then get drunk. Okay. So now we're going to, but by the way, I got to sense you, Tommy. You're a big dumb guy. You like watching some comedy.

You like doing projects, which I don't know. I got to say pretty interesting start. You filled 71 seconds, which was a very hard task to do It's a long time Tommy what are you did on a little weird up there? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you beat the showdown a little bit now Tommy What are you weighing in at you talk about being a big dumb guy? What are you weighing? um, I'm weighing at a like a 130

Explain big. When you hear the word big, what do you think? You were talking about next to miniature things? You and Jake's Gorilla Art? Are you looking at my little silver? No, I wasn't. I'm a little silverback collection. I mean, I'm a big dumb guy.

I'm 4'11", 130 pounds. I could bring you a big gorilla. I can bring you a huge gorilla. Now we're fucking talking. No, no, no. Tommy, so you're just you're not necessarily big, but in your head, you're larger to charge. Well, he's Tommy Tough. He's a big Tommy Tough Knuckles guy. He's not a tough guy.

He's got soft knuckles and he's a little guy. He's 130 pounds. Yeah, well, I'm just an Italian from New Jersey. It's, you know, well, I got to tell you, tough knuckles. I'm just an Italian from New Jersey. It's, you know, I hear about it. Tough Knuckles, I'm liking everything about you. I'll tell you what, Sam, you're not going to be short on conversation with Tommy. Tough Knuckles, you'll be trying to peel that onion a thousand times in the evening. That could be exciting.

Welcome to doing a podcast with Gareth. That's what that means. We're moving on. Don't need to throw that guy under the bus. He's a hell of a guy. All right. Now, Trevor, Trevor, we are interested to know if you were to win this friendship date, no children, what the hell would you want to do? And, Gil, how much time should he have? 88 seconds, no, I mean, honestly,

let's go 44 seconds here. It feels like there's a lot of stammering. We can suck some of the air out of that. So, Trevor, you got 44 seconds whenever you're ready. Begin. Cool. Well, we're definitely not gonna go golfing. We're actually gonna stay as far away from golf courses

as we possibly can. I feel like a lot of these end up in sort of like a garage hang, which I do love, but let's go high brow and low brow. So we start with, you know, I do carpentry myself. It sounds like you do that. You go blacksmithing. I love a free lesson.

I also understand if you know that requires compensation. So I don't want to sign you up for a course. You're not, you know, agreeing to give but let's let's build something. Sure. That's a common interest. But then after that we get out of the garage and we go to the nicest restaurant in Fullerton. We sip on wine, we order squash blossoms at Foco. We do it all up because guys love a garage. I'm drawn to them, but we can't stay there. We can't just live in a garage full time.

So we get out, we do the high brow after the low brow, and then second date, you know, we'll talk about that later. Whoa, Trevor, a man after my own heart. I was gonna say, Trevor, if Sam passes, I know one person is behind the scenes of this show. I ain't that far from Eagle Rock, Ben. Let's get out of the garage together.

You feel the word, brother? Now let's go to Carrie. All right, Carrie. And I gotta tell you, Sam, I hope you're listening, because as of now, we got two shooters here. Oh, yeah. We hope this is the opposite of the podcast. We're here to help. And you're listening, Sam.

Now, why don't we go to our third potential friend Kerry. You all remember Kerry from earlier. He's from the valley originally or somewhere like that. Now he's in Hawthorne. Anyway Kerry 37 you pick Sam up. What are we doing? Yeah so you know like the other two guys I think that we're all kind of interested in the garage hang. I'm a welder and blacksmithing and woodworking. I know those were two of Sam's interests go pretty well together on that. I think we could definitely get into the garage

and make some cool stuff with both of our skillsets. A lot of garage talk. Not now, Jeff. Yeah, I mean, that's what Sam was interested in, you know? You're right. On the last call, I know that like Sam said, I mean, we're basically here because he said he didn't know anything about golf.

And I was thinking about that because he said he would be down to go to the driving range or something like that. And I think that, you know, something like Topgolf could be a fun way to learn. It's less about golf, more about just hanging out, good food, good friends, drink, not really any pressure. Even if you hit a bad shot, you're probably going to score a few new points. Definitely also into like afternoon beer tasting at a brewery, going to shoot some pool at a dive bar, bowling, that kind of thing. Although that being said, I'm on a little hiatus from drinking at the moment because I'm trying to get back into shape, but you know that could be like a future hang,

you know, if things go well, that type of thing. Let me ask you a quick question Kerry. What are you weighing in at? I'm at about 220 right now like 511 100 pounds heavier than the guy who called himself a big guy Jake. I just think we should agree and Kerry I get where you're at. I'm also taking a little break from that about you. I agree. Okay back to you guys All right Kerry. Listen, I Sam I don't know about you But I feel like we've got three guys here always down to do a project in the garage But they also want to have a friend outside of it. How you feeling so far Sam any thoughts initially without being too specific? Yeah, these are three awesome dudes and I definitely don't want to hang out in my garage all the time either

So I would like to make a comment gil if I can absolutely Jake jump in whenever Hello shout out to Trevor tough knuckles and Carrie. You guys really brought the heat. You did good. Every single one of you, we got three great options. Nanatek, can we do something? Can we put the three contestants in a room alone for a second where they can't hear us? Can we just talk to Sam? Love this audible Jake, you're doing great at the line. Now we're going to commercial. This is behind the scenes. We'll be right back from a word from Rocket Money. Rocket Money!

I think they just dropped us. Oh, okay. I don't think they did. Hungry root, hungry root, hungry root. They dropped us too, Gale. You're bleeding viewers, Gale. We're on our way out here, King. Okay.

Okay. Okay. Okay. Hey Sam, we're Ah, got, got, got, got, got. Okay. Hey Sam, we're alone with you, Bell. Okay. Are you as excited as me about these options? These guys aren't, I thought they were jokers at the beginning,

but I feel like all three brought something interesting to the table, but it's not about what I feel. I'm not hanging out with these men you are. What do you think? Yeah. First of all, a little hesitant about Tommy tough knuckles, but he actually seems like a really cool dude. Agreed.

And funny. Harry and Trevor seem really awesome. Yeah. Uh, I feel really great about all three. I'm going to be kind of sex that it can only hang out with one of them. Well, let's do this right now. Where are you as of early in the game and everything things can shift, but just the audience can get in the point of view of you.

Where are you leaning right now? Uh, I, cause one of these men you're going to have to literally go on. One of these men you're going to literally go out with for three hours. Yeah, I'm not, I'm not leaning any which way right now. They're all, they're all pretty awesome. Okay. Um, so you're happy with your options either way. Pretty good.

Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Um, do you want to ask the next question, Sam, or do you want us to ask another one? I can ask the next one. Let's get, let's get a little bit into the Sam questions here Jake do you have a front runner? Alrighty, is it too early to call? Maybe Carrie

Gary you like Carrie How about you Nat? Oh no But again, that's just what matters is this next one this is like all of them yeah It's just funny that we all three hang out with the losers. We should go kick it away. All right, let's go back But Sam take away what you just heard about who we like cuz who cares what we like You're the one going on the date not us. It's so good to see you. Tell me what it's like to be you. Alright and we are back with our guys.

Alright here we are look at them coming back out there. Tommy Tough Knuckles, Carrie and Trevor. So gentlemen we've got a really interesting part of the show right now, and that is we are going to have Sam ask each of you a question, and you guys can go back and forth a little bit on it. But so at this point, Sam, are you ready for the first question? Yeah.

Gilly, who should he ask? Well, we started with Tommy Tough Knuckles, we ended with Carrie. Why don't we flip the order here Carrie? Why don't we go to you first Sam address Carrie whenever you're ready? You guys have two minutes together. Yes Carrie When I was in high school, I smoked cigarettes with chug-alos before school. What was your most awkward phase? You say chug-alos before school, what was your most awkward phase? You say chug-alos? You're damn right. I hung out with chug-alos.

That doesn't sound too awkward to me. Sam, you're out, just like you were on the show. Sorry, Sam, we got to IC out of this one. Kerry, you're going out with Tommy Tough Knuckles. He's tired of you, but thinks he's moving. We got three great contestants and our fucking star is a jugaloo. I would say that my most awkward phase is probably right before I went into high school.

I was the kid that thought it would be funny to have pink braces. And I was wearing, I think it was like Oz, where they have like, you know, shirts that are supposed to be like funny. Like, you know, the smiley face and that type of stuff. And so that's basically all I wore I didn't have any fashion sense and I got made fun of by a girl and that actually changed my life So yeah, I'm gonna go with that one that phase. Yeah, it's pretty relatable Pretty good stuff quick question that I can throw on top of it. How did it change your life? Carrie? What did she say to? Quick question I can throw on top of it. How did it change your life? Carrie? What did she say to? I think I just got became more fashionable and started getting more attention from women and yeah

Pretty good change. I love it Sammy next question to Trevor we should Again the meat in the dating game sandwich. Sam address Trevor. Trevor, how do you challenge yourself lately? How do I challenge myself? Um, to question, uh, I made a big jump in my career. So that was putting myself out there that, uh, that's what immediately comes to mind. And that requires, you know, not signing off at 5 p.m. And there's some growing pain there We also bought a house this year, which is Terrifying so we're you know stretching ourselves in these days. Is that something you can relate to Sam?

Yeah, I bought a house so we ended up selling it pretty quick. But we moved back to California. Hey Trevor, you ever wear clown makeup and smoke parliament lights? You ever been considered the worst? I was a juggalo by the way. Wait hold on Trevor. Oh Sam, you were not a juggalo, you hung out with him. Trevor, when you said you took a career jump, what does that mean?

Just sort of like making a leap into a director role and like actually having to, you know, care about stuff and not just getting jobs over the line. Hey Trevor, let me jump in here. What do you directing? Any TV stuff? Any sort of broadcast stuff? Stop garrotting Sam. A lot of man for the question. That's for Sam. Go ahead, Trevor. Sorry about Jakey. He stepped all over. We're an agency, so we make commercials and websites for big companies. Oh, what do you make commercials for? Trevor, sorry to jump in. What do you make a commercial for? Right now I'm doing a lot of rodeo work for Ford.

Ford, I'll tell you, Ford trucks are built Ford tough. Hey, is there another podcast I can do about it? I'm getting kind of tired. Hold on, hold on. Ford trucks are built Ford tough. You get four tires on that thing, all you need is a dream, a mountain, and a bunch of rocks. All right, so Trevor, you are taking a career jump.

You're making a leap, you guys bought a house, things are going good for you. Carrie, you also had an awkward stage. It changed you when you got teased by a girl. Sam, do you have a question for Tough Knuckles? I know the third question, I need help. No, but Sammy, it could also be a repeat question. We did not realize you had to do three.

You're allowed to do a similar question. I like the most awkward phase question. I did too. I was hoping you were going there. Well, I think my most awkward phase was in high school. I was a big metalhead. I got into like really extreme metal, like slam, grind core, all that fun stuff. And I was driving around in a PT cruiser with the windows down

and suburban New Jersey blasting all kinds of music, smoking American spirit turquoise. Not parliament. Yeah dude. Yeah dude. Yeah, I had long hair. That's cool. I still kind of do have long hair. Nah, it was weird, man. Parliament but yeah Yeah, dude fuck yeah Sam did you ever have long hair

Yeah, I did how long Sammy It was past my shoulders Thank you It was past my shoulders. I was a big guest. Heck yeah. Hey Trev? Did you rock a ponytail? I'll say what? Did you rock a ponytail? Nah, I never did the ponytail. Tommy, did you rock a ponytail?

Tommy, did you have a ponytail? Oh yeah. Hey Trevor, did you ever have long hair? Yeah, I did. I did the hardcore scene, had the long hair, put a straightener to it on a timer too. Oh boy. Oh dear. Did you ever rock a pony? You ever have a rat's tail? It never went pony. Never went pony.

Tommy's really bringing the questions out of the side. I love them. Carrie, did you ever have long hair? I did back when I was like 27. And I never rocked a pony, but I'd wear like the, the, uh, like the updo top knot man bun type of thing. I just realized something about our potential male audience. I want to do I don't think you want to know that Jake. I really don't think you ever had long hair. I have had long hair. I was a shoulder length never a man bun

But wallet as we've proven in multiple pictures, but in your post 18 stage, did you ever have long hair? mmm, no not long. Okay. No, no Hilarious, no, but our three guy. I'd me too. I had hair past the shoulders at a certain point I rock was that when you were a playwright, please say yes No, it was before then it was when I was an overalls, no shirt underneath, doing Habitat for Humanity building houses, no shoes. Oh my God. Oh my God.

Jake was part of Soul Asylum. I went to Grateful Dead and I saw Jerry Garcia live before he passed RIP. Oh boy. Did you wear a shirt that night, Jake? No. Oh boy. And I smoked pot with 50 year olds. It's not about me. It's not about me.

It's not about me. Trevor, Tommy, Kerry, can we have a minute without you guys? And again, you guys are all crushing it. Just a moment with Sam before we get to the end of this, because we are in our final moments. But I want to say all three contestants, A plus, home runs, well done. Thank you gentlemen. It's good to see you. Sam. Yeah. contestants a plus home runs. Well done. Thank you gentlemen

Sam Yeah, you're in a pickle here, babe For real you're our ENA Dad are you are you feeling like you have a favorite at this point? Are you still open for business? I'm still pretty open for business These guys are all really cool. I kind of like that they all had like a hardcore phase. Same. I'll tell you what we're not gonna do for no other reason besides to make this hard on you and potentially a stomachache for our more sensitive viewers. We're not gonna go everybody

wins. No. We are gonna pick one, we're gonna have two losers. And I'll tell you why, because life sucks, man. Yeah. Yeah. Even though this feels like such an easy, this is a group. Yeah, it feels like they all go out together. That's the Disney version.

But this ain't Disney, baby. We're A24. Now we're here to help. Yeah. Now I have a question. Have any of us changed our leader based on the last round? Yes. We had Kerry, Nat.

Mr. Tommy Tough Knuckles. You're at number dos. That's where I was leaning. Gareth, you. I'm really into Kerry and Tommy Tough Knuckles. Tommy won the last round in my opinion. I'm leaning for Trevor. Interesting. Why?

He's growing up a little bit, but he was also a weirdo. He's into carpentry. Sam just bought a house. Sam, they're both in a really early stage. I like Tommy Tough Knuckles a lot, but I think he'd be a lot. Yeah, you're probably right. Yeah, look at us, Nat. I think he'd be really fun, but he'd be in a group.

That's good. Wait, are at us, Nat. I think he'd be really fun, but he'd be in a group. I think you're right. That's good. Wait, are you looking for a new best friend or just someone easy to hang out with that's in Fullerton that is available? Sam, what are you looking for here, babe? I would like to find someone to hang out like once a week or so. Yeah, that's a solid friend.

Yeah, that's a solid friend. Okay, so Sam. Wait, I got a question. Jesse., that's a solid friend. Okay, so Sam. Wait, I got a question. Jesse. What about, how do you feel about, how important to you is it that the person's like in Fullerton? Great question. Because Trevor's in LA, which is, you know, they're close, but. What is that?

What part of LA is Eagle Rock? Eagle Rock's on the east side. East side? I don't know. So I'm trying to east. But I don't think that'd be that far. But it's super important. Would you be willing to do a hang?

I can definitely do a drive. Would you drive to LA for a Thursday night hang? Yeah, definitely. Okay. So therefore, bad question. Good question. No, I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. If you want to hang out once a week, I'm not going to drive an hour once a week to see a friend. I'm not going to drive one minute to do anything. I'm going to have a bad attitude. I'm mad at everybody. No shit, Natalie. Well, Shana also said he'd come to Fullerton, so we're going to the best restaurant.

I'm not even doing that. I'm not even going to keep my video on. Okay, Natalie, we get it. We all live in Natalie's world. We're all going to the best restaurant. I'm not even going to keep my video on. Okay, Natalie, we get it. We all live in Natalie's world.

We're all going to the best restaurant. We're all going to the best restaurant. We're all going to the best restaurant. keep my video on. Okay, Natalie. We get it Just teasing for no reason Jesse good question. Yes. I don't want to be the mean one Not a good question though. Very clearly bad question All right, where were we so Sam Good question though. Very clearly bad question. All right. Where were we? So Sam, I want to do. Do you want to do one more very quick one? Maybe I have a quick one we could maybe do. All right. Let's go to Gareth's question. I do. I'm gonna do it now.

Well, when they come back on. Yeah. Okay. All right. Let's do it. All right. Yeah, I got a good one. Okay. All right. Trevor, Tommy, Kerry, are you back?

Yes, sir, I'm here. Again, I wanna say all of us are excited about all three of you. We don't know which way Sam's leaning, but we're all falling in love. Gareth, what's a question and who are you asking? Well, Gil's the name and the question will be going, why don't we start this time with Trevor?

Trevor's never gone first. This is just a quick one here, but Trevor, let's say you're walking down the street one day, you find a gold lamp, you give the side a rub and a genie pops out, you get one wish, what is it? Actually, good question. Ooh. Good question. Better than Jesse's.

It's really easy to go more noble than anyone actually would and say end world hunger. Yes. But I think we say end world hunger. I just want to, you know, take note that that could be an eye roll, but I stand by it. And so what would that genie do? Create food everywhere? Would you end world hunger in terms of how? Would you just everybody's stomach is full? You know, he might...

I think he'd multiply fish and hand them out. Yeah, I'll tell you, Jake, when you asked that follow up, I didn't know where you were going, but holy God. Cause when the genie goes, give me specifics, you just ask him to multiply fish and hand them out, Trevor. You had one wish to a genie. Now we have billions of fish being handed out. It's a lot of fish.

Wow, Trev. Definitely changes the smell of earth. We didn't talk about delivery. We didn't talk about delivery mechanism. Trev, you said multiply and hand them out. We are on a globe that smells like fish. Imagine in like very hot, humid areas, deserts, hungry people with the baking fish. They go, they've never seen fish. They don't know how to prepare fish. We need to have a feeding mechanism. The first thing that pops into my mind about feeding the masses is biblical. And that looked a lot like multiplying fish. So that's what

pops into my head. I'd probably have a better chance if I wasn't on a time limit here. Okay. No time limit, go again. Okay, different take. How are you gonna feed it? Right now though, go. Yeah, in working with the Genie, I think that every single person would have the meal of their choosing

miraculously appear in their dining quarters every day. Way better answer, Jake, it'd be especially fun, but it's hard to not beat fish multiplier. Okay, so we got a good set to Trevor. Why don't we go to Kerry? Kerry, we're going to ask you the same question. Tommy, don't get comfortable because we might be changing it up for you. But Kerry, you kick a lamp, you rub the side, a genie pops out, gives you one wish.

What are you going to do? And don't say fish wish. Are we assuming that the genie is like has the rules wish what are you going to do and don't say fish wish are we assuming that the genie is like has the rules where you can't wish for more wishes yes good lord of course okay so i'm going to go actually same answer um ending world hunger however i think my method of doing it is going to be a little bit different i'm going to go um the kazam route where junk food rains from the sky. Okay, okay. Cloudy with a chance of meatballs again. Yeah, so Kerry, your thing would be junk food

just falls everywhere, litter, rats. Just junk. You guys would seem like the 90s classic Shazam, right? Or Kazam, sorry? We all know what you're talking about. Yeah, we're putting this. You know, he makes it rain, and I think that's probably the best way to do it.

So just imagine a Snickers bar falling from a cloud and hitting a baby's forehead before it is fully formed. Death, destruction, murder... It really could be pretty bad if you think about it, Kerry. How fat we would all get. That's not where my mind went, but, you know, I guess, yeah, there probably was in that plan. They didn't cover it in the documentary Shazam, but I will say, Jake, can I just ask you right off the bat? Yeah.

Fish multiplier or junk food rain? Which one are you going to lean towards? None. Okey dokey. Now let's go to Tommy Tough Knuckles. TTK here bringing up the end. As much as I'd like to hear what your dream answer would be for the wish, Jake, we can stick with that because part of it wants the answer.

Let's stick with it. I want to hear what the knuckles says. Tommy, you rubbed the lamp, a blue genie pops out one wish? What are you gonna go with buddy? Well, I got my wish I'm hanging out with uh, you know Brian security guard and Nick from new girl You know what's my new best friend? You know, this is my wish The flattery goes a long way we got a fish multiplier and a guy having a candy bar falling on my head. This other guy's giving us a little bit of a back rub and boy does it feel good.

Tommy, if you could wish for... I'd probably wish for ice cold beer, honestly. I don't need anything. Tommy. Tommy. Oh, fuck. So now question to you, Sam. You're walking down the street, you kick the thing, the genie comes out, what do you wish

for? I'm kind of close to the Tommy. I have a lot of what I want right now. Maybe, I mean, like, I don't want to just be tangerine and just say be friends. And so for the final part of this show, we are going to give each contestant, wait really fast, Trevor, karaoke song. Oh God. I think you have to go to killers.

Anything in the killers category. First of fact, Tommy, same question. I got a bass boosted Huba stank. Oh good God. Can you give us a taste of it? No I cannot. You have to tell him and find out. Respect.

Kerry, your karaoke song. I gotta go with the Midnight Train. Midnight Train. Now in closing, each of you are going to have your final statement. What makes you the choice for Sam? Carry your first. What makes you the choice? Why should he pick you? Walk us through you that night, your reasoning for it being you, anything you want to say. The floor is yours. What's your hop take on why it should be you? Yeah, so I know Sam said he's a you know a big hobbyist and I'm the same way. Right now I'm really into rock climbing, hiking, camping, I like tabletop games. I make Super Mario

World ROM hacks which are basically just like retro fan games from the 90s. I don't take myself too seriously. Like on my left forearm, I have my friends cats names tattooed. And, you know, just so you know, Gareth, there's room for your cats to join the crew. Love to be a part of it. I feel like, you know, Sam and I have similar interests and we'd get along and he seems like the kind of guy that like is down to try new things. And, you know, just because it's more about hanging out with your buddy than what the actual thing is and kind of like that. I really want to do some blacksmithing so that would be fun. And I watched Garry's video on the rent fair and with the blacksmith and a welder together,

I think we could totally make like some badass suits of armor, some medieval weapons and honestly we just crush it. I mean, pretty good answer, Kerry. I like that they're getting a couple nights together. I love that. Tommy, same enclosing statement for you, good sir. Sure. I'm always down for a fun time, bad time, whatever kind of time. I love working on different projects. I love to like learn how to blacksmith and I'd you know show you how to 3D print and we could craft together. I would love to bring out like a

swords like a Renaissance Festival with you or I can hit up a local coffee shop, local music show and yeah I just think it'd be a fun time. And even if we aren't best friends, by the end of this, I would still, you know, hang out. I like getting that tough knuckles. Trevor in closing. Yeah, this is sort of putting all my chips in the middle of the table here. Big reveal here is Gabriel, who initially hurt Sam, is my brother-in-law. Wanted to share that sooner, didn't have the opportunity. is Gabriel who initially hurt Sam is my brother-in-law.

Wanted to share that sooner, didn't have the opportunity. And I was so appalled with the way that my brother-in-law treated you. And when I listened to you talk to him, I was like, I want this guy to be my friend. And I want to distance myself from my brother-in-law. And I want to make penance from our family to yours This wonderful man Sam called in to befriend my brother-in-law and my brother-in-law just dumped on him

What did he say? I think he said definitely not Sam Don't take him back to Vietnam Trevor come on I was so mad for Sam And I was like this guy does all the things I do he just wants to hang he's in a new town I would love to be that guy for you. We got so much in common. We've talked about you know, we're gonna have beers We're gonna make stuff sure but I just think we we got a bond here Sam Jesus This is a good answer all three three of you guys. Wow. Jesus Christ, Trevor.

At first, I thought when you started, I was like, wow, this is what it looks like to watch a man bury himself. But boy, was I wrong. You thought it was something that dirt, which I thought you were burying yourself, went potentially right over your enemies here. So let's take a moment now, or let's not. Sam, eliminate one of the people, one, two, or three.

Oh no. And say something nice about them before you do it. Say, you don't have to say anything mean because I'll tell you what, one, two, and three, these are all frigging winners. Everyone's a winner. There is not a loser here. No, no.

But you can only go on a date with one of them. So we're gonna have to eliminate number one, Trevor. Number two, Tommy, Tough Knuckles, or number three, number three Carrie which one of these and we all know Sam and guys he's been saying behind your backs he would like to hang out with all of you but because this is an arbitrary game with rules one of you has to be eliminated right now Sam who's being eliminated Tommy Carrie or Trevor I wish I could be friends with all three of them, but that's not the game. And I, yeah, I just, every single one of them has great ideas for what to do. Like they all buy with me in a lot of ways.

I would have really liked to have gone to a coffee shop, but I think I'm going to eliminate Tommy. Tommy Tough Knuckles. Everybody's heartbroken listening. Tell me to fan favorite Tommy Tough Knuckles. There is one person in Greenland crying right now. Tommy Tough Knuckles, it's not your day, but you have won the hearts and minds of our audience. What do you want to say before we go?

This is the moment of the dating game where we bring you out and Sam realizes how goddamn good looking you are. And not me. realizes how god damn good-looking you are because holy cow we Reveal the curtain and you are a great looking guy Tommy tough knuckles So what do you want to say? What did he miss out on give us a goodbye? Well, thank you guys for the opportunity. Thank you Sam for the opportunity to be here, you know, do best friend. It's been real I don't think you'd really missed out on much I'm just a dude who likes crafting all my friends are like younger so I was looking for more older friends yes no I have fun good luck if it doesn't work out one the other dude you know hit me up'm right in Fullerton. I don't know if we're gonna send you my contact

but yeah Not again. We are gonna tell me here's what we're gonna do We are gonna send it to Sam too because I guarantee Sam also wants to hang out But what we're gonna do in terms of the game takes the game game state Oh, you're an absolute winner. Thank you for calling in Tommy.. Thank you guys. Thank you, Tommy Tough Knuckles. Graceful in defeat. So now Trevor and Kerry, it's down to two and we're going to need you guys to go in a separate room now for a second so we can talk behind the scenes. Holy cow, Sam.

How are you feeling, Sam? It's tough. It's tough. Yeah, I feel awful about having new inmates, these people. So do we. Yeah, so do we. But that's the game. There's arbitrary rules.

I think the way we do this, Jake, is let's have him say the winner and hear why he didn't pick the other one after. I think that's the way they would do it, right? Now or no? Now, once there's the winner, you get to celebration't pick the other one after. I think that's the way they would do it right now or no? Now once there's the winner you get to celebration mode. Okay all right. Yeah we got to eliminate and then you. And then you do the why this person. So I mean Tommy Tough Knuckles is such a goddamn winner I got a feeling if we do another round he might be our guy. mean, he's the first person eliminated, so that's one way to contest it. If he's the bachelor, you're like, as producers, you're like, we got tough. We got to do one more.

So, Sam- This is an insane spinoff. Sam, what are you thinking between Trevor and Kerry? Where's your heart at here, babe? I just want to say the thing with Gabriel is that didn't bother me at all. I totally understood. I didn't feel like it was me and I didn't get dumped on or anything like that. But that being said, I'm kind of leaning towards Trevor.

I think we're just like, I just really like his vibe. He's in a pretty similar situation as me. He's a little older. Oh, I guess court carries 37. But yeah, I think he's on a level of his hobbies and stuff. I think Carrie is actually probably better at, you know, all the most positive stuff I could learn from him. But yeah, I think I'm leaning towards Trevor. Interesting. Natalie, where are you leaning towards?

I mean, for the story of it all, Trevor. Yeah, but how about for your heart? Carrie. Gareth. Carrie, the brother-in-law thing to me is a bit strange. Sherlock, where you at here? Where you at here, babe? Pop back up.

I'm leaning Carrie. Yeah. I too am leaning Carrie. Interesting. All right, don't say anything, Sam. Just that's where our heads are at. But it is not our date, it is yours. I think you should make a final decision

that affects your decision. Hey, Sammy, Sammy, when we get to it, the final decision is not till words come out at your goddamn mouth here, King. This is behind the scenes. Hey, Gareth, I mean, Gail, will you take us back to the show? Absolutely. Will you bring our boys back? The final round, 22 weeks of waiting comes down to this.

I just wish the public could vote. The public can't vote, Jake. We don't have that technology. We probably never will. It's good to see you. All right, and welcome back. Here we are on the friendship game. Sam, you came in looking for a friend. I think you met three possible soulmates.

We just lost fan favorite Tommy Tough Knuckles. Called himself a big guy. He's about regular size, if anything a little small, but you eliminated him and now you're down to Kerry and Trevor. And we just talked backstage, nobody's sure where this is going, not even Sam. Trevor, Kerry, we just wanna say no matter who wins or who's eliminated, you're both great guys

and you're a great friend, but Sam, it all comes down to you and what you want. But before we go to Sam. But before we go to Sam Trevor Trevor, do you have one last statement one last pitch first? one last pitch of what that evening of friendship would be like go You know, I already described the itinerary, so I think it has to come down to feeling. And I think that feeling would be sincere.

Cary, same question. I would say that I'm in general pretty spontaneous and I kind of just go with the flow. Oftentimes I'll be hanging out with people and then we end up somewhere completely crazy. So I think just depending on how the night goes and what we're feeling, like we could end up doing potentially anything. Kerry, with that in mind, how does a night like this sound to you?

Bowling, karaoke, no cargo shorts. Oh, no cargo shorts. That sounds good to me. Okay, why did you pause on this cargo shorts? What about cargo pants? Oh, uh... Sam, what about cargo pants? Yeah, those could work. Trevor?

It's like if khakis became a purse. Trevor? Yeah. How does the Knight of Bolin, karaoke, no cargo shorts sound to you? Sounds perfect. Do you have cargo shorts, Trevor? I don't own them. No, I don't.

Trevor, what's your high score in Bolin? I think I've done like 150, but that was a really good day. Kerry, what's your high score in bowling? It's probably about a 170, but there's no way I'm shooting near that these days. Respect. Hey Sam, who are you going to choose? Don't be afraid to contextualize why they're both great Sam and what you like about both of them, but you can only pick one. Obviously they're both great.

I feel like- Go ahead Sam. Don't be afraid to listen to the show. Go ahead. I really, this is a really tough decision. I feel like both these two. Both winners. Both winners. I would definitely hang out with both of them. I wish there could be all of us, Tommy included.

And Sammy, there might be a way we do that. We might be a way we do that. But for right now the arbitrary reason- Consider the stakes. Consider the- no way we do that. This means everything. Keep listening, everybody. This is it. It's all come down to this. There will not be a groupie named Sam. One goes away forever and one's your new BFF.

Who is it? Um, so the man, this is so hard. Um, I'm going to go with Trevor. Oh. Trevor. Trevor in the winner's circle. It's such a hard decision. Uh, and really the only reason anyone, it's like impossible to tell how much, how

well it would go in the long run. But, um, sort of just seems, uh, yeah, I don't even know. They both seem super cool and chill and I definitely would hang out with both of them. But yeah, I just think he's, I think I'm getting a slightly better vibe from Trevor, even though the Gabriel thing was a little weird. But I was into Gabriel. You did such a good job. I hope you listen to the show and hear the behind the scenes

because you were a favorite behind the scenes. Again, a lot of votes from people we won't name. In closing, Kerry, any final statement from you, Goodsir, while the audience is shocked? Yeah, I mean, this was just a lot of fun. Thanks for having me. I love the show. I've actually seen all the episodes, so.

You're the best, Kerry. Oh, come on. You're the best. You wouldn't get along with Sam anyway. Yeah, yeah. You'd have nothing to talk about. Sam listened to two episodes. He's listening to a book. It listened to two episodes, he's listening

to a book. It's kind of weird. Nobody gets it. Go ahead. Yeah, I mean, I think it was pretty cool that you guys did this for Sam because I definitely felt that he's a cool dude and he got shafted. And so it was cool that he got to come back on and meet some people with shared interests and made a friend that's more local to him and that kind of thing. So I think those two dudes will have a good time and yeah, that's basically it and let's be honest You seem like such a good guy really really cool guy and Sam really is torn So we're probably gonna connect you guys via email. Probably not there could be only one Carrie This is the end of the road for you. These guys seem like such good friends

Yeah, Jake is falling real hard for three guys today. All four of these are sweet guys. Kerry, you did a great job. You gave great pitches. You seemed genuine. Great pitches. I'm sure there's a guy out there for you somewhere, but unfortunately, it's not gonna be a semi-boy.

So Kerry, we're gonna ask you to hang up, and God, we're gonna miss the hell out of you, buddy. You've really done a good job. All right, guys, thanks a lot. Have a good one. Thank you, Kerry. You're the best. Thank you, Kerry. Thank you. And now good job. All right, guys. Thanks a lot. Have a good one. Thank you, Kerry. You're the best.

Thank you. And now our winner. All right. Mr. Trevor, how you feeling here, babe? I feel lighter than air right now, guys. I feel so good. And so for your guys' first hang, we have the idea of potentially bowling and karaoke, but what are you guys

thinking? Anything on the spot? Do either of you want to drive the train? It's July 10th right now. When is this first hang going to be? I'm out of town next week and this week, so I'd have to get to that, but yeah. And then July. Yeah. And then July is perfect. Trevor, you good for end of July? Yeah, this is a patient friendship. We make it work when it happens.

And do you guys want the first hang to be the Fullerton area or the Eagle Rock area to either you care? Sam said he doesn't care about driving. He didn't care about driving. I can be in Fullerton we can make that work I think I think you know Sam's Sam's who we're all trying to charm here so we can we go to Sam Well played Trevor you sexy beast Good Lord well, although big big note is is

Although, big, big note is, is karaoke in K-Town is going to be better than anything anywhere else. As well as there's unbelievable bowling alleys in the Highland Park area. Yep, yep. Lived there for a decade. I kind of feel like an LA night with the karaoke and the bowling. Who's to say I'm not part of this? We'll leave it to Sam. We'll leave it to Sam.

He's pitching LA so he can join. Jake is Jake is actually pitching down the street from him. So don't fall prey to that. Anybody in the gorilla. And by the way, Tommy Tough Knuckles and Kerry will also be there. Jake, Jake's going to accidentally show up to the Applebee's or you guys are eating everyone one inch gorillas. Sam, in closing,

you called into this show a little bit ago looking to make a friend. Can you sum up this process to you now knowing you and Trevor are gonna have a bowling and karaoke night? Sam, sir, where are you at, friend? It was a wild ride. I'm gonna be honest, it was a little chaotic.

Why I originally just emailed in just to see if I can get a random friend hang in. I did not expect to get my own dating game at all. It was really cool hanging out with everybody and talking to you guys. I did not expect to get my own dating game at all. It was really cool hanging out with everybody and talking to you guys. Yeah, a little wispy. Well, Jake, we're pulling heartstrings here. And Jake, I think we would be remiss

to not ask the final question of Sam before Trevor and Sam go off into the sunset together. Sam, you've been on a wild ride. The show did it all for you. Natalie and Sherlock here produced the hell out of this. What are the odds you start listening to the show? The podcast that has done all this for you, it seems like it would just be really, really unfair and totally messed up to not start checking out the episode.

Sam, where are you at with that? 100%. I keep meaning to listen to more episodes. Well, that doesn't count as a download. Go ahead, sorry. Sorry, go ahead, Sam. Intention doesn't count as a download. Go ahead. Rocket Money doesn't count. We're happy to sponsor because a lot of people wanted to listen. Oh, cool. There's a potential future download. Go ahead, Sam. You were saying. Didn't mean to cut you off there, buddy.

Oh, no. I'm going to be opening more episodes. Let me ask you this, Sam, not to cut you off there, buddy Let me ask you this Sam not to cut you off are you subscribed to the show that helps everything Yes, okay. Okay. Good. All right, just send a screenshot of that Yeah, yeah agreed too much Absolutely, we had such a good ride Good ride and then it goes ruined at the end. I don't know what happened. In closing. I'm gonna be for you, Garrett. No, no, no, same. I don't know why you guys are just like this. It's not Garrett, it's Gil.

Yeah, it's Garrett. I'm the one spicy. Oh, Gil, there, Gil. Sam, you have to start listening to the show. No problem. We look through all this trouble. In closing. Go ahead, Jake.

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Hey, this is Herschel. Good, how about you? Herschel, how you doing, pal? Hey, what's good, guys? Nice to hear from you. Great to hear from you too. Can you remind our audience a little bit about who you are? We know it's the dating game. We know we're going to get an update, but give us a little backstory on where you were in the game, all that good stuff.

Yeah, no worries. I was the dating participant that actually golfed as well. We, I live in Yorba Linda and me and Gabe both have kids and wanted to get together. So Herschel, tell us about the date. How did it go? Hey, it's good. You know, we texted for a little bit. He's playing a little bit coy.

Then we found a time to meet up. I was a little bit nervous, as he would be. Of course. But Gabe was a good guy, man. He's a really nice dude. We had a lot of fun, super relaxed. He's a big family wife guy, which I thought was really awesome.

And overall, we just had a really cool, fun, relaxed afternoon. I mean, I think it was one of the most fun I had meeting somebody new and making an adult friend in a pretty unique set of circumstances. No way. So it was positive. Yeah, it was super positive.

Look at you two cool cats. Oh wow, look at you two. That is an amazing one. Wow, this is great. That warms my heart. Which one are you? Are you glasses or no glasses? You got a picture?

I'm no glasses. You're no glasses. Okay, big smile. So you guys went out, you had a blast. Yeah, we had a good time. And then how about after that? Yeah, it's good. We've been texted, we're talking about doing another round, we're talking about doing a play date with kind of our families, both our kids are about the same age. So I was actually gonna, I was gonna wait till it came on. We're having a barbecue this weekend. I was going to ask Gabe, if you wanted to come by and meet some of my other buddies

and some other dudes, cause I know he's trying to make one of them friends. Wait, Gabe, Gabe, Gabe. Right. Gab, he's here now. Gab, Gab. Gabe, you're on with Hershel and the, and the group. Hey guys, how's it going? Good.

We heard the hang went great. Yeah, it did. Yeah. We saw a picture. You were beaming. Yeah. Yeah, it was a good picture. Herschel's got something he wants to ask.

Hey, Gabe. Hey, man. This weekend, I'm having a barbecue. I'm going to have some of my other buddies there, some other guys that also golf. I learned if you and your family wanted to join. I'm making a brisket for the first time. I'm a little nervous and, you know, having a friend there. I think would be really helpful. Nice. What is it? It's going to be Saturday, 4 p.m. I can text you the details after this.

You know what? I should be able to make that. I got to double check. But yeah, that sounds that sounds really fun, man. Oh, man, I think it'd be awesome. So, you know, I'm really I'm really glad. I'm really glad that that you went forward with me. I know Sam was probably pretty tempting Gabe if you do end up making it to this barbecue

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Don't bring your brother-in-law to Herschel's. Oh. I forgot about that. That's funny. Yeah, it is funny. Yeah, well, that's great. Do you guys, are you guys texting at all? Like outside of the hang? Have you been texting a lot or has it kind of just been like you had a good hang, you said you'd hang again and now we're picking it up now? Yeah we were trying to schedule something

else like for another golf yeah another golf round but has anyone has anyone sent anyone like a funny video or a meme or like how texty are we being? No I would say no we're not there. No. Let's get out of here. We got a huge win They're having a little bar. How dare you mr. In closing tell me to end the segment In closing in closing. Yeah closing Into a barbecue. Yes with other friends. We need to do another follow-up another time But it sounds like it's a great start. Hey, GR. Will you ring the bell please? You got as hard as you possibly can Win for you to for our community for the show

For all the hard work we're doing down here. God damn it. This is just good stuff. It's really nice So we are genuinely happy. This sounds like a nice beginning of a friendship if it works out. How to make friends with an adult, man. So it's really cool to come together and maybe after the barbecue, we'll see how the techie goes.

But at the very least, you got some good golf buddies and a good ring. That's it Gentlemen and enjoy it. We appreciate you guys and have a lot of fun. Keep keep us in the loop. All right, cool Thanks so much guys All right guys. Thank you Thank you. See you guys. Bye.

Bye guys. Hi, this is Maddie. I had to pull over from driving to work because I have to side with Jake. Read the text. In The Night Before Christmas, which is the Bible of Christmas, I don't care about no real Bible, it literally also says, a miniature sleigh and eight tiny reindeer. You're telling me that Tim Allen is crammed inside of a teeny tiny sleigh with many reindeer? No, that's inaccurate.

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