We're Here to Help - 232: Shrewd Little Boy & Danny Two-Times (With Gaten Matarazzo)

Episode Date: November 19, 2025

Stranger Things' Gaten Matarazzo joins the guys and things get strange indeed. First, they help a biker break up with a twelve year-old boy. Then, Gaten schools Jake and Gareth about Gen Z re...lationships.Check out Volume 1 of the final season of Stranger Things on Netflix, dropping November 26th.Want to call in? Email your question to helpfulpod@gmail.com.PATREON: https://patreon.com/heretohelppodMERCH: heretohelppod.comINSTAGRAM: @HereToHelpPodIf you’re enjoying the show, make sure to rate We’re Here to Help 5-Stars on Apple Podcasts.Visit gemini.google/students to learn more and sign up. Terms apply.Advertise on We’re Here to Help via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:40 Oh, no! Ah! I'm okay. Jake's dream death. Or nightmare death. Oh, you'd love it. Getting smothered by a chimp. You'd love to be, but you'd be like, wow, he was smiling the whole time.
Starting point is 00:00:58 You're not wrong. I would love to my end I would love to be killed by a chimp that was once a pet and I would want to be visiting somebody and they go I got a chimp and I go that's a pretty big just ripped my head right off
Starting point is 00:01:14 everybody at the funeral was like he wasn't sick it came out of nowhere he was in Missouri there was a chimp farm he went he said goodbye to me that day super weird like he knew it's like his text it's like he knew I don't know. I don't know. It's hard to tell, but that was Jake. I mean, you just never knew what was going on up there.
Starting point is 00:01:35 He said he was going to a chimp farm. I said, I'll come. He goes, I need to go to this alone. He goes, I love you, brother. He said, 100% no, brother. This is my mission. And then he said, no matter what, girl, be good. He sent that to nine different guys. He copy and paste them the same text, which is also kind of like, I don't know, I don't love that, to be honest. But anyway, he's gone. Funeral is hard to be sad. It was a chimp attack. It was weird that he wanted to make jokes.
Starting point is 00:02:05 He was weird as will he wanted a chimp wreath. I just like hard to stay focused. He had put stuff in motion not knowing how he died. Yeah. We don't know if we stick with it. It was like a choose your own adventure. If chimp, chimp, chimp, reef. If fall trying to grab a lizard.
Starting point is 00:02:22 The guy making the speech goes like, this feels inappropriate, but it was written before. Nothing's geared around. God's great earth than chimps. It's ironic how he died. I do feel like we should change this. Aaron's like, he started thinking chimps? Nothing more beautiful than chimp babies. My daughter's like, fuck this guy.
Starting point is 00:02:48 And now we're just going to play some wild chimp sounds for five minutes. I'm sorry. And if the audio's not right, just use this. But if the audio's right, cut this part out I wish he had insisted on no casket which I'd never heard of before so he's just kind of laid down here splayed no what I'd love to do is have me in a random seat weekend at Bernie style and not tell anybody in the middle of it somebody goes like like put me in a fedora in a hat and then go where's the body and somebody goes like oh my god
Starting point is 00:03:22 that is that is the best way to handle your funeral I'd like to be propped up in the last row. Yeah, and then during one of the speeches, he goes, we'd not like to play a recording from Jake, and I go, why are you goofballs looking forward? Look back.
Starting point is 00:03:40 And at that point, there's a spotlight. I'm just like, they kind of bring you up, like you're like, you got one of those like little waist loit oysters. He goes like this really slowly. Everyone screams.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Jesus Christ. So letting me get in. Oh, great. Hey. Hey. Oh, hi. Thanks for doing this. Thank you guys.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Yeah. So, Gating really fast. Thank you for doing the show. Oh, gosh. Thank you for having me. I will say really quickly. You know, I'm a fan. Thanks.
Starting point is 00:04:12 You like my daughter and I watched the show together. And we are, she is, I'm a fan, but she has, she spotted you from season one. Okay, cool. She's like, that's the one. That's the guy. How old is your daughter? she is 12 she's 12 so she was really young
Starting point is 00:04:29 when it came out then yeah we started she started watching stuff right away I mean I don't know if we were live live right when we found season one it kicked off it kicked off and how you're feeling about the finale being in a movie theater
Starting point is 00:04:44 that one was a horror really stoked it had been pitched for a while and it was there was a little bit of pushback because I think it was just like not really I think the whole because I don't know
Starting point is 00:04:58 if it was like a thing where it was against the model of like what was known for like being the point of Netflix to begin with. I'm like I don't know because it really makes sense because there were other theatrical releases
Starting point is 00:05:08 for Netflix movies just not for TV yet. So I think this will be the first like TV premiere in theaters which I think it's awesome. This is by far the first of its kind. It's really cool. I mean it feels like a long movie anyway.
Starting point is 00:05:23 It's very cinematic. and I feel like it's culminated to something that's worth that scale, I would think. I'd hope, at least. We've been excited about it for a while. I will say as the last boomer who grew up on going to movies and TV was different and then cable popped
Starting point is 00:05:42 and then streaming and then streaming is taken away the excitement of movies. But TV is so good. Yeah, TV's great. So this is the first time I'm like, ooh shit, it might be turning again. That would be great. I would like it too
Starting point is 00:05:55 Because I think there is trade-off I know that there's a lot of grumblings And people do miss The theater-going experience Which is completely valid And I do as well But it doesn't mean that the stuff That's there is it good
Starting point is 00:06:10 Like there is so much good There's so much good shit out there And this is a cool There is a feeling of community When people watch things together And you'll have it like a film festival Yeah You know I like making little indies
Starting point is 00:06:21 That really live in people's homes They're not for, you know, a hipster theater in Minneapolis with nine people there. It's meant for you to watch it at home. Yeah, yeah. But the festival is special. Yeah. So they're now starting to say, like, a huge episode, we're asking people to come together, experience it in real time, and then all go get dinner. It's pretty special.
Starting point is 00:06:42 I think it's a cool idea. We were really hoping that it was going to work out. They started pitching it while we were still filming, I think, which was about a year ago. Cool. Oh, yeah, I'll be at the theaters for that. I love that you, I love that it's happening. I'm going to go as well. I want to see it in that space.
Starting point is 00:07:01 I also would just like to see it because I guess we have seen it anytime we premiere, because we do show the episodes in like a big theater to like kick off the event of like the release. But that's not necessarily, that's usually with people who have a connection to the show. It's a different crowd. It's a lot of industry. Yeah, a lot of industry. Yeah. Which is fun.
Starting point is 00:07:21 It's cool. like it's a pat it's a pat on the back session it's like we did it guys but exactly yeah but seeing it with random people in a movie theater that's gonna be so cool it's gonna be awesome man it's gonna be really fucking cool i'm stoked yeah so the premise of this is we're just taking calls none of us have heard anything oh yay we know nothing it's an easy left of it we are gonna a call is going to come in we're gonna hear what happens you have no rules this is good oh my public And the problems will not be enormous. They will just be important to the person,
Starting point is 00:07:56 but they'll be, you're not going to have to worry about anything. How do you know? Well, you're right. They might just change the storm. Well, we are talking about releasing this episode at a theater. So maybe this might be a bang. This might have some stakes. It would be a good one to do. Okay.
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Starting point is 00:13:00 Go to RocketMoney.com slash help today. That's rocketmoney.com slash help. RocketMoney.com slash help. Okay. And then Gaten, just talk. Don't wait for permission. Oh, yeah. I never do.
Starting point is 00:13:13 I never shut up. So just please jump in. For real, yeah. But it's like six kids at a dinner table. Oh, this is my speed. This is great. 100%. Good story.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Hi. How are you? Good. How are you? Good. We'll get your information a minute. But we want to say you've got Jake. You've got Gareth.
Starting point is 00:13:34 And we have our guest helper, Gaiton Matarazzo's with us today. Hello. Can we get your name, please? My name's Michelle. Michelle. And Michelle, how old are you roughly? Um, 31. Where are you calling from?
Starting point is 00:13:50 I'm calling from the Chicago, like, suburbs. Okay, sure. All right, Michelle, which one? Uh-oh. Um, Romeoville. Sure, of course, I know Romeo, okay. So, Michelle, do you know about that? So, Michelle, do you know, Romeoville?
Starting point is 00:14:05 A little bit. Okay. I can't test you. It's like, it's just warehouses, so there's not much to know. It's like Julia and Jake. over there. Wait, so it's Romeo Villa Joliet? It sounds like the shittiest Shakespeare ever.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Yeah. You're going to do it on purpose? Yeah, they bust up. I have no idea. All right. I like it. All right, Michelle, look, you got three hitters. So why don't you walk us through what's going on?
Starting point is 00:14:29 What can we help you with today? Okay, so I commute, like, with a bike. I have an electric bike that I used to get around. And one day I was going... I was going towards, like, a bar. I was going to go see a band. So it was, like, in the evening. And I'm riding, and there was, like, this kid that stopped me.
Starting point is 00:14:52 And, you know, if somebody, like, says hi, I always say hi. And I had this ski mask on, so I kind of lowered him. Like, I don't want to. The cars texting by are going to think that I'm trying to talk to this kid and, like, steal him or kidnap him or something. But so I lower, like, my ski mask. And he's like, oh, I really like your bike. Hold on, Michelle, I'm getting a little turned around. Michelle, stop for one second.
Starting point is 00:15:12 you're riding an electric bike you're a 31 year old woman there's a kid you're in a ski mask you're afraid people think you're going to kidnap a little boy on a bike it happens it has a basket in the bag yeah how old is this like a two year old yes exactly how
Starting point is 00:15:29 when you say kid I think 12 yeah around that he's in fifth grade I end up finding out he's in fifth grade so I because he was asking questions about the bike and stuff and he asked if he could ride it and I told him I'm going somewhere right now so no so I go on my way
Starting point is 00:15:50 I kind of don't think about it and I get this I get back home like really late right and then I don't go that direction like it's the opposite direction of where I usually go so I'm just going up like back and forth to work primarily and one day I come back from work or no I'm going to work and I opened the garage and he's there talking to my dad and my brother. I do want one bit of clarification beforehand. What kind of a road did he flag you down on? Was it like a red light that he was standing at? Was it like, was he on the side of the road?
Starting point is 00:16:24 He was like, help. That's the way question. I don't know like how like. No, no, no. It's like a sidewalk and it's right by a rec center. So it's like off the street. There's like cars going. There's like a rec center.
Starting point is 00:16:36 There's a school right there. You know, there was like other kids playing. on like the basketball court. It's that kind of a role. Okay, so it was kind of normal to stop and talk to this boy. This is way more, yes, this is the normal. It's a rec center, there's other kids.
Starting point is 00:16:52 That is normal. I'm so curious that that isn't, that's unfortunate that this, did you, you told your, your dad about this boy. Gayne, we're not there yet. We're not there. Okay, I'm sorry, sorry. So we're going to get to the end. I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:17:03 I get excited in the show. I'm sorry. We're all excited. 12-year-old to the garage. Before we get to the 12-year-old, boy single white female in you what did you and this boy talk about on the side of the road when he flags you down um he asked there's a lot of times when people like talk people like ask about my bike all the time so they'll ask like brand and stuff i was just trying to see like what kind of
Starting point is 00:17:28 questions he would have if he was like interested in bikes if he like knew because he was on an electric scooter so i was like you know i was just he i like told him the brand he's like like, oh, I think he really just wants to ride it. Like, he just wanted, he really wanted to ride it. That was, like, the main. I will say, go into what you said before again, the kids, the weird one, Michelle's not, I'm not ready to draw that line in the same yet. You're also talking about a 12-year-old boy who's interested in electric.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Excuse me. This child is in the garage talking to her dad. Yeah. That's what's crazy. That's what's crazy. So now, Michelle, let's go back to you. You come home, said 12-year-old boys talking to dad. so I told them like you know I'm going to work so we can't do it right now plus like I'd rather like you do it like with your parents watching because I that at that point I'm like you know the it's dangerous like I'm the bike and plus I don't know if he's going to ride away with it and then you all don't know the third time yeah and then if he falls or something or whatever so if it's like under his parents I'll make this simple we don't need to do nine
Starting point is 00:18:38 points you don't know him keep going michel yeah yeah yeah yeah and coming from a guy who i wrote a scooter in new york who am i to talk actually don't think that point wasn't holstered over here keep going to go to my head i was like actually i am that 12 year old boy jake did it in new york like i'm not the girl just about a week and a half ago all right but michel this isn't about me being that 12 year old boy riding a stranger's scooter this is you're you have some valid points why this little boy shouldn't ride your scooter then what happens and then what is Let's get to what happens and what our problem is. And I try not to interrupt.
Starting point is 00:19:13 The third time, I came back home and I was, like, getting the leaves. And he asked, and so I gave him, like, five bucks. I was going to give him five bucks because he was helping me with a week. Jake, let her go. Let her go. Sorry. Real quick, real quick. She could.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Jake. No, I was going to, but he's like, oh, because just give me, like, a ride on the bike instead of with that. So the reason why I bring that up is because my solution was going to be, like, I give them, there's like an electric bike rental place that's nearby in Lockport. And I was going to give him like five bucks. Towards a rental. He was like, help me. Yeah, towards a rental.
Starting point is 00:19:51 Like you help me with it. And it kind of helped help. Oh, because with the leaves, like I came home and I was getting the leaves. And then he's like, oh, can I help you? And I'm like, I guess if you want, like you're really that bored, like you can help me with the leaves. If you are at least pick them up. Go home, little boy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Michelle, I don't think it's about the bikes. Well, and that was the other thing where it was like, yes, it's like, I don't know. Should his parents know that he's like talking to strangers? And then that was the thing, it's like, should I try and meet his parents like, you know, and tell him and like, let him know what's happening. I think we just heard the problem. I don't think it's about the bike. Yeah. Should I contact this boy's parents and say your little boys got a problem.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Okay. So he helped you with the leaves. You've kidnapped him, Michelle. He helped you with the, you did kidding him. He helped you. you were like, I'm going to give him $5 towards renting his own e-bike, essentially.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Yeah, like, oh, you know, tell your parents, like, let your parents know that you want to, like, ride, like, electric bike. Michelle, but then, yeah, because then I'm also thinking, like, should his parents know, like, he followed a stranger, like, all the way to their home and, like, yeah, right? So what is, what is
Starting point is 00:21:02 the specific question we could help you with today? By the way, one of the better setups I've been Well done. And Michelle, we were blitzing the whole play. So way to hang in there and keep your eyes down field. And thank you for just continuing to shoot weird bullets the entire time. Everything they came out of the gun, I'm like, that's a weirder bullet.
Starting point is 00:21:25 But then I gave them money. May I harken back for the beginning when a 12-year-old stopped her and we were like, what? Yeah. How about the ski-ask? Well, it's a long setup. So, yeah, I had to throw that. I didn't have to throw that. either. But it's a long setup. I feel like the details matter, you know.
Starting point is 00:21:43 They do. They do. They do. They do. They're very good. But. Yeah. I guess the, the question is kind of where I should go from it. Like, should I just give it? My mom, she doesn't want me to, like, I told her about it. She just wants me to be like, no. And that's it. You know what I mean? Like, someone else's a problem. Like someone else's a kid. That's a normal response. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What your mom's doing is what we call in the business is a straight shooter. Yeah. wearing a ski mask, pulling it down, afraid you're going to kid
Starting point is 00:22:10 wanting to help, giving the kid money. You're in a weird relationship. So the question is, what should you do right now with the 12-year-old who seems to not only be e-bike obsessed, but has some sort of strange bond
Starting point is 00:22:25 he's formed without your permission? Right, yeah. He has some set of skills, which I think he could cultivate later in life. Oh, he went to like a CIA. Stop it. Stop it, stop it. Many do.
Starting point is 00:22:37 Yeah, many too. May I have something to add here? There's something here that I think I might specifically be able to touch on here. So I started doing what I'd do for a living when I was a little bit younger than this young lad. And the thing is that I was like in a workplace with a lot of adults all the time. And I was like super eager to know them and be very, very close friends with them. And it would hurt my feelings when they were like, oh, hey, buddy. And, like, they would be like, all right, have a, have a good one.
Starting point is 00:23:09 And, like, they were nice. And they'd be like, what are you doing for homework? And, like, we're, like, very fun. Like, very, very good with me for sure. But, like, I did have a very eager, like, I guess desire to be, like, really close with them. And, like, let them be my friends and, like, develop that bond. Because maybe it felt cool or something or I looked up to them. And it would hurt my feelings at the time when, like, I would find out that, like, well, like, we should get food.
Starting point is 00:23:34 And they were like, ah, I'm busy. I can't do that. Because it's inappropriate and because I'm told me that's all. By the way, Gain, I'm glad you said the second half. Because as the older guy in that situation, if a 12-year-old goes like, fun seeing, Jake, and I go, you too, you crush it. And they go, want to get a meal? I'll go, I think your mom or your tutors near.
Starting point is 00:23:57 I don't think you and I should go to a diner together, my guy. Yeah. Oh, no, this isn't my son. Yeah. Yeah. And so that does sting a little at 12. But then when I turned, even when I was like 14, 15, I got even a little bit older. I was like, oh, yeah, I get that for sure.
Starting point is 00:24:15 And so I think if you now say like, hey, I don't know you, I don't know your parents. I didn't, like, you just got to fuck off for, don't tell him to fuck off. No, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then like now he'll be hurt. And then when he's 17, he can be like, oh, yeah, that was responsible. It might be weirder later on the road for that him to one day be 18 and then say, Why did that 31-year-old, like, 10 or two? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Hey, Michelle, I love this point of view. And this is not where I was going to go. No, neither one of us would have. I was getting ready to throw eggs and do some weird stuff. Oh, God. But Michelle, thinking about it from the 12-year-old's point of view when that 12-year-old is 20, looking at your behavior at 31, you got to be careful. He's like, yeah, I was going through a really hard time.
Starting point is 00:25:04 My parents split up, and I saw this electric scooter. Next thing, I know this woman's giving me money. One day he'll be 31 and be like, I would never give a 12-year-old money for nothing. And the scooter. Yeah. And let him ride my mountain bike. I was 12. Let him ride.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Or give him five bucks to go rent one. Go right. He's in your point that it's endearing. And, like, I'm sure he's like very cute and very sweet. And it's like, oh, this is adorable. Well, now, would you, is there anything to, is there anything to, is there. there another side of this where she does talk to the parents and say, I want to be a positive influence. Do you have contact with his parents? She doesn't, but she could find a way to get
Starting point is 00:25:46 contact. You know what I mean? That's kind of what you're doing this relationship further is in anyone's best interest. Michelle, I got a question. How many, what are we calling this 12 year old boy? We got to, I got to stop saying 12 year old boy. Can we give him a fake name? Is that a fake name? Say it again? Danny. Danny. So. Danny.
Starting point is 00:26:08 That's such a 12-year-old boy name. My brother's name is Dan. And growing up, he was Danny. And when we got, when he was about 17, he said, stop calling me Danny. I'm not a little boy. I'm not a little boy. So now I haven't been able to call him Danny, but now when he's on the pot, I get to call him Danny. Yeah, I call him Danny.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Yeah, I call him Danny. So how many times have you and Danny hung out talking electric vehicles? so three times so when he stopped me when he came to my house twice yeah okay and when how long do these talks go not the first one but how long are you standing outside by your garage talking to a 12 year old boy named Danny the first time he came to my house it was like five minutes the second time he helped me with the leave so it was like 15ish I'm telling this Michelle because there's a lot cooking. Walk me through how he helped you with the leaves again. And then let's do something. Gaten, will you be Danny? Any day. Michelle, will you be this? And Michelle, tell Gaten a little bit
Starting point is 00:27:11 about how it started and how you got to leaves. And then let's roleplay that a little bit. Okay. So I was, I was using a leaf blower and I had to like leaf blow them all together and then like pick him up. So he came up, asked me if he could help. And I'm like, yeah, sure. Like if you really want like I'm fine doing it but if you really want you can and I asked them if you wanted to like pick them up or use the leaf lower but you wanted like oh it'd be cool like for kids to run a leaf lower whatever okay so Michelle hey gait do you have enough I think that's good yeah let's see what happens just to get a sense of if Michelle's weird if Danny's weird right right it's good I don't really know Danny's quirks but I think I can like channel yeah
Starting point is 00:27:54 just lean in yeah the 12 year old but I once was yeah all right so ready to pigly and nope no hi Michelle yeah hey how's it going it's going really good do you need help with these leaves I mean I'm just I'm good doing it on my own here just trying to pick up these leaves but I just really want to yeah I really want to try that leaf blower I do what
Starting point is 00:28:22 like what what's the charge on that you know the amount of battery life it has you know how long it takes once it's day to charge back up. No, it's plugged in, so you just have to plug it in here, but you have to make sure that you hold the cord here so that it doesn't disconnect. Is it okay if I jam my thing, he's into here, could it potentially hurt me?
Starting point is 00:28:45 Is this a piece of, like, heavy equipment that might be too scary for me at my small 12-year-old frame? I mean, it's pretty simple. simple machine and since you helped me out, taught me how to make sure that it wouldn't disconnect because he tied the thing together and didn't disconnect.
Starting point is 00:29:08 Do you want to be my best friend? I'll pick up his leaves. Not really. All right, you're my best friend, Michelle. I can't wait to come back and help you rake leaves again. Okay, really fast. First of all, you are, Danny.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Yeah, great. Now I can sense Danny. Michelle, is that close at all? I know the dialogue is different but it's the feeling there a little bit. You can say no I guess to me no like
Starting point is 00:29:36 but I could be wrong right like now seeing I love this perspective I'm really glad that I called it I look like a like an idiot like a weird woman no but it's okay like I understand I do have like I've been told multiple times
Starting point is 00:29:50 I've been asked if I'm autistic like you know I see the world in a different way but it's like you're being sweet Hold on, hold on guys, guys, guys, guys, we're not turning this into weird at all. But, Michelle, the question was, was that accurate at all? I think that what I got more from, from, like, the interaction with him was that really he just wanted to ride the bike. Like, we weren't really talking during it.
Starting point is 00:30:16 We're like, you know, picking up the leaves and whatever. He's a user. Let's do this, Michelle. If it's the thing that he has, like, a crush on this third-year-old woman, if you would be like, I love you, but it's a crush. I don't think it's a crush. I don't think so. So, Michelle, will you now do me a favor?
Starting point is 00:30:32 Because I feel like we're getting close to it. It's a bike crush. Will you do the scene where you are, Michelle, and Danny? So, like, okay, jumping into the part where it kind of went more sideways. Yes. So I gave them the leaf blower and then. But hold on, Michelle. So it started off.
Starting point is 00:30:55 He goes, just do the whole scene for me, please. The little talk about walks up, you're blowing leaves. Okay. So do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do you blowing the leaves? Oh, hey, how's good. Like, can I, can I help you with the leaf? Oh, sure. Yeah, I guess.
Starting point is 00:31:10 I'm just not doing this. Like, I'm okay doing it on my own, but if you're bored, if you want to help me, sure. Do you want to use the leaf floor or do you want to pick up the leaps? Oh, I want to use the leaf blower. I want to see, okay, just make sure. Okay, just make sure that you keep it plugged in. um it's a little uh loose so you got to like hold it while while you're plugging while you're using the leaf flower um oh that's cool yeah you know what what you could do you can actually tie it
Starting point is 00:31:36 and then plug it in and then it's not going to come loose oh that is cool okay working working picking it up this is nice they're all done oh well thanks for your help um let me grab if you like say out here i'll grab five bucks real quick uh you would so you strong that five bucks without any where that comes from? She paid for the service. Well, because it's like that's what you can do it too. Yeah, but that's also. Michelle, I've got to say that's less weird than I thought it was all of a sudden.
Starting point is 00:32:09 No way. Okay. Yes. That seemed, I'm all of a sudden having a weird turn. I think I was just having a hard time getting to where you were at. Yeah. Everything about that situation kind of feels fine to me. But what she wants is she wants.
Starting point is 00:32:24 is she wants to can she go forward with this this relationship friendship I'm not saying yes if you're saying we're all saying yes I'm not saying yes I might be saying yes he said no to the five bucks and he's like oh no that's okay but could you give me a ride on your bike like could I ride your bike and start
Starting point is 00:32:51 so it's like that bike but you know what I mean like that was the back of his mind. So I was like, you know, like, I'm not really comfortable with letting you ride the bike by yourself. Yeah, right? Like, he found me. He does that. Like, okay. But anyway, um, but he, um, then I'm like, you know, one, like, he doesn't wear a helmet. I'm like, do you have a helmet? He's like, no, I don't have one. I'm like, okay, how about you like save up for one? Like, like, buy one or something. I'll give you a five bucks. You, like, save up for a helmet, potentially. Which, you know, then I am also thinking, like, I shouldn't have kept it going. like you know he still has this hope or whatever but insinuate further meetings and
Starting point is 00:33:28 yeah Michelle I got a pitch I do too I got a pitch uh yours is in the direction of maintaining the relationship possibly possibly so here's where I'm at now uh thank you for going with me on this one I will say we were swaying around I couldn't get a sense of what the fuck was happening but now I feel like I got a pretty good sense uh and I will say I don't think you're being weird And I'll also say, I'm not positive. Danny's being weird. So here's what Danny wants. He wants to ride that fucking bike, man.
Starting point is 00:34:01 He can't. I've never seen anything as cool in his life. Here, you as a preschool teacher are torn. You don't want to squash this kid's desire, but you're not his mom or his dad. You say this, Danny, I'm going to let you ride your bike. I just need to talk to your parents and get their permission first. And whatever, their rules in terms of helmets and this, but I can't. be a fake note, but if you want to give me your parents' info, I could reach out and call,
Starting point is 00:34:26 and if they're good, you leave a little collateral here. So I know you're coming back. Ride the fucking bike, little guy. I have a rebuttal here. Go. We forget that he followed her. We forget that she didn't know how he knows where her home is. Facts. Like, even like, he'd be, like, scurried down the road and, like, trailed her to see where the bike went or whatever it was. Even if you, like, trailed distance on an electric scooter, he's He's already crossed an inappropriate line. If this man is 20 years older, he did illegality. I agree.
Starting point is 00:35:00 And there's no way. That first day, there's no way that he followed me because that trail, it's like an hour. I went and I was on my bike for an hour. So then, Michelle, way weird. So I don't know how, yeah. Michelle, in your best educated opinion, how did he know where you lived?
Starting point is 00:35:20 Honestly. it must have been that he saw me like I'm riding like commuting to work one day like coming back from work maybe he just happened to be like by one of the parks we have to the next time you say you got an hour trail no I don't agree with it was it was like the first
Starting point is 00:35:41 no I haven't but the first time when he first saw it he was like oh it's a cool bike can I ride it and like as he was touching it he just sneaks one under he didn't touch it I don't think that he could have snuck it. He didn't put an air tag on it. You don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:56 Please don't say sneaks one under while he's touching it. He might have snuck her under, you know, while he's touching it. He just sneaks one under. Look, we have, Michelle, we have Jake's pitch. I'm with Gait. I think I would look, there's, I know he's 12. I'm not trying to be rude. I think there's some flags here.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Just as far as your comfortability in your life and things like that. But I think you've got to break it off. Now, you're right in the sense that I do think it's difficult to, it is a little difficult to break it off. I'm going to pitch a strange one, but I think maybe you need a scapegoat. You need an excuse why your time is too valuable now to spend it with him and say that he probably needs to go off
Starting point is 00:36:41 and just be a 12-year-old somewhere else. I'm pitching you're raising your sister's baby that doesn't exist. Wow. And so you have a huge. lie to a 12-year-old boy, Gareth. Jake, he found out where she lived. Then you're going to find out she's lying. He's a little stalker.
Starting point is 00:36:59 That's right. He could figure it. How embarrassing would that be? I could get a reborn baby. But then you could just feel like, look, I had to create a fake baby because I don't think we should be doing this. But that's so crazy, Gareth. You're talking to a boy.
Starting point is 00:37:12 I think you're not getting a fake baby because you're weird. I think. Creep him out. There are three different ways this could fall apart in your favor. I'll tell you what you don't do to 12-year-old Gaten on set, what he goes, hey, you want to get lunch? You don't go like this. I would, but I have to babysit a fake baby, and I'm going to weird you out,
Starting point is 00:37:32 even though you're a sweet 12-year-old boy. It's not. It's different. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not doing it at work. He ended up on stranger things.
Starting point is 00:37:38 You probably find it fast in like any creepy things. I'll tell you what, the title of this call those weirder things. Yeah, yeah. I, either way, I think you have to go in the direction of this campaign. happen i would i would say i mean you could also just say wrong hey look i think it's great that you're doing this go gaiton go i have a pitch yes you need to eliminate the incentive for him to come back you need to pretend the bike broke yeah but he'll see you thought about no michel your thoughts just say you got rid of the bike okay so on that vein i actually um i was going to do this before but um
Starting point is 00:38:19 I decorated my bike with, like, both of them, with Hello Kitty stickers. And it's supposed to be a theft deterrent. So it's like, even if it's blocked up, like, no one's going to look at it and try and, like, feel it. Yeah, for a 12-year-old boy. For a 12-year-old boy. For a 12-year-old boy, just in general. Not, not, not, and for the 12-year-old boy, I was thinking, like, maybe it kind of, because I, you know, I haven't, like, he was, I haven't seen him. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Yeah. By the way, I used to spray paint all my bikes, uh, brown. Yeah. Even the tires. and I'd be in New York and people would be like, I just don't want to steal it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:53 You know, it reminds me when I used to smoke basic lights in college and people be like, could I bum a cigarette? And then they go, I'm not in mind. Yeah, I'm okay.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Yeah. Look, I don't think that's going to be a deterrent for this kid. I also think it's amazing the jaker. That was like, genius. I'd someone just steal it,
Starting point is 00:39:09 take the hello kitty shit off. Look, it might be the sort of thing where if we think it's right, you might just want to let him down. I mean, You might just want to do that. And you might just want to say, look, I have a lot going on.
Starting point is 00:39:22 I don't feel comfortable, you know, trying to teach you how to ride this. You can't level with them and say, if I let you ride this and you hurt yourself, then I'm going to be the one that's in trouble. So I can't let you live with them. So, Michelle. I feel like 12-year-old kids, they come up with excuses. I'm like, no, I'm not going to get hurt. No, I'm not going to, you know.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Hey, we're coming back to fake baby. Your sister's son was on the back in a Bjorn, fell off. And where is you now? Hey, Michelle, I'm coming to you for a second. we're coming back to you for a second we've got some pitches now we've got say you got to talk to his parents we've got an excuse that the bike broke we've got i i can't hang out with you anymore because my sister had a baby um we've got continue to uglify the bike and make it more hello kitty so he'd be embarrassed by it yeah where are you kind of at
Starting point is 00:40:18 Gareth has a finger up. It's an insurance issue. Okay, okay. Her insurance won't cover it if he does something on it. Insurance is not going to cover 12-year-old. You just think he's not going to resonate with like the insurance. He's not going to be like, I'm not going to care about that. He was not worth putting your finger up, Gareth.
Starting point is 00:40:34 I don't know. His parents could. I don't know. I don't feel like the 12-year-old right now. What's insane about Gareth Gatine and you don't know, I've known this guy for 20 years, is he's right now in the call. because he thinks I'm being crazy. He's trying to be, like, the adult.
Starting point is 00:40:52 And he literally goes, insurance issue. And he's like, look at me. I can't let you write this because you're not on the insurance. No. It's not that I'm trying to be the adult. I'm so sorry. I stalked you. It's not that I'm trying to be the adult.
Starting point is 00:41:03 It's that in my head that went 100 times better in my direction. I was like, got it. And everyone was like, shut the fuck up. I was like, okay, all right. Michelle, Michelle, did you have to talk, care. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Michelle, hold on. Let me, let me win the call real quick.
Starting point is 00:41:16 There's a reason. I did it is. Semi-professionally. All right. So, Michelle, back to you. What are you kind of thinking? So I think that the thing that I'm going to do is the thing I was going to do in the first place, which wasn't one of your pitches, but was give him the five bucks with the address for the electric bike rental
Starting point is 00:41:39 so that he could give it to his parents. They'd have to download the app and do it that way. And just kind of, and it's weird. You're giving a dog a treat. Michelle, I'm the insurance guy and it's weird. I got to say, it's your, I wouldn't get stoking. It's not weird. I just think it's not very effective.
Starting point is 00:41:57 I agree. I think it's allowing a fuster. I know this as an inner 12-year-old stalker boy, which is just part of who I am. But very similar to that, when I was young, I had random older friends that I would do the same thing with and just keep pushing in. any somewhat weigh in for it's give you an inch they'll take a mile
Starting point is 00:42:22 so what's so fun that's what's fun is that like that's why kids become friends with each other so quickly because they just say can I be your friend do you want to hang out right now right now so endearing and admirable so Michelle yeah Michelle here's my final pitch to you and then we got to let you go but I want after I pitch I want you to say what you're going to do next time he comes over say hey it's a little inappropriate that a 12 year old boy's here somebody your age of my age, I need to talk to your parents to make sure they know this is all okay. So could you give me their phone number? Because I want to call them if you're going to keep coming by asking me about electric vehicles. And most likely what he's going to say is,
Starting point is 00:42:59 no, don't worry about it. Or he's going to tell his mom and the mom or the dad is going to go, sorry, I know my son, Danny. He's a wild man. I'll keep it away from you. You're a link in a chain is my guess. But I think you just need to be the adult and you need to Take control of the relationship and let him know. Hey, you didn't do anything wrong. You're just a boy named Danny who's a stalker in a little bit of a weird. Yeah, there's a way to do it nicely. Like, hey, you haven't done anything wrong, nothing at all.
Starting point is 00:43:25 But as a 31-year-old, I just need to talk to somebody over 18. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Michelle, you're in good shape. Yeah, we're in case scenario. I'm prepared, yeah. Michelle, we follow up with us after the breakup. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:40 For sure, yeah. But Michelle, the breakup happens next time you see him. Yeah, 100%. Also, when you see him put hello kitty stuff all over yourself, so he's less interested. Give him some hello-cadie stickers. Yeah, all right. Thank you. Thank you, Michelle.
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Starting point is 00:47:22 All you guys. With Jake, Gareth, and Gaiton Matarazzo is here with us as well. So you have three killer. Awesome. Yeah. So this better be good. What's your name, please? I'm Danny.
Starting point is 00:47:35 Danny. Danny, well. Danny, leave Michelle alone. This is D. We have another Danny today. Are you 12? No, no. Danny, what do you think about electric shooters?
Starting point is 00:47:52 Electric, uh, fun when you're drunk. Wow, you shouldn't be drinking, kiddo. Danny, how old are you? I'm 23. I'm 23. You're kidding. Hey. Where are you called from, Danny?
Starting point is 00:48:07 Whereabouts? I'm calling from Colorado. Cool. All right, Danny. 23, Colorado. Jake Gareth Gaiton. What's going on? Okay. So I have been with my girlfriend for a little over a year and a half and she plays volleyball at the school that we go to. I have a part-time job. And just the way that things work out, we end up spending a lot of nights at her apartment. And because of this, I end up using like a lot of her toiletries, like her soap and her toothpaste. and stuff like that. Okay. And so I often try to like replace the toiletries
Starting point is 00:48:51 because I have a consistent income and like she doesn't. So I try to like replace the things. Yep. I try and like replace the things. I am. Yeah. But whenever I do that, she refuses to like use the soap or the toothpaste or whatever
Starting point is 00:49:07 and just brings it back to my apartment the next time she comes over. and so my question is how do I get her to like use and accept the like toiletries that I'm trying to like replace great question you buying the same products yeah it's great question yeah I am buying the same products okay I think she's feeling like I don't want to use him this is yeah this seems like it's coming from a from a place of her wanting to ride yeah not maybe just out of like a perspective, like, I want to, like, not take advantage of, like, the money you're spending on your toothpaste.
Starting point is 00:49:45 Right. You guys are hitting the nail on the head, for sure. Yeah. And that's really sweet. What do we call in her really fast? But we can still fix it, Kate. Daphne. Daphne.
Starting point is 00:49:53 It is sweet, but we got to get this girl using the toiletries because the thought is nice, but it's also goofy. Like, I don't need half a tube back at my house. The tubes for you because I use the tube at your place and we're at your house so much. So you coming to my house, bringing the floss. It's getting goofy, Daphne. Just leave it. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:50:15 Now, is she in any way putting the products over at your house so she has some home-based items of hers at your place? No, no. She has other home-based items at my place. Like the lotions that she likes home-up of her, she has at my place. This is a independent woman that doesn't want to live under, Danny's financial umbrella and so she's making who when you guys go on and eat who pays uh it it depends usually me but like she pays a lot too okay that's good this is good because you guys
Starting point is 00:50:53 are a year and a half in this is a good chunk of time together and so i get that like there's an incentive they're not incentive but there's a desire there to like even the playing field and make sure that you guys are on like the same page there and and I think based on like the initial start of it, I don't think it's coming from a place of being like, don't do this for me. No, it's fine. I don't need your help.
Starting point is 00:51:17 It's coming from a place of I don't want to take advantage of your kindness or take advantage of you spending some of your extra cash on this situation. But I got to pitch, Danny. Buddy, let's do it. Do you need to create an alter ego for you? Danny two times. And Danny two. times never buys anything once he buys it two times so when Danny two times gets toothpaste
Starting point is 00:51:45 he gets two tubes when Danny two times one for house one for yours so if she brings it there you go one free yeah you go like this oh that's really good the buy one get one free is helpful yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that's helpful you go it's good you by the way you lead in with I love it Hey, just so you know, I got all this stuff, but I got a two for one. So my stuff's already stacked. Once she gets out of the routine once, it's done. It's a sandcastle. Water's going to knock it down.
Starting point is 00:52:16 It's going to look normal. She's just in a weird routine. I don't know, though. This seems like an easy fix in a pinch, but you guys are a year and a half in with the hope being for much more time after that. So this becomes a president that said, and she finds out that you haven't been getting buy one, get one free. Like, if she goes online, she's like, I'm just going to do the deal that you did.
Starting point is 00:52:35 and then she can't find it anywhere and then she's like how the fuck you can do this and she finds out you've actually prepared with stuff she's not she's not gonna be mad
Starting point is 00:52:43 about the fact that you lied about it yeah does she Danny does she do you want her to just be better
Starting point is 00:52:50 at accepting these things or are you just more like you logistically want to keep her stuff stocked up so she's taken care of like do you care about having credit
Starting point is 00:53:02 I just wanted to be like equitable I'm using all her things and she doesn't have time to make money, so let's make it equitable. Danny, I'm going to pitch secret stash. I'm going to pitch that at her place, you have a hidden stash of all the things she likes, at hers. And then when you start to notice that some of these things are getting low, you go to the secret stash and you maybe use it once and then replace it. So it's a little more full, but it would be a weird thing
Starting point is 00:53:38 to accuse you of doing. Oh, okay. Wait, but that's like textbook gaslighting. It's crazy. No, it, not if, not if you, not if you just make it seeming you are so correct. I don't know, babe. This is logic.
Starting point is 00:53:55 This is where, Gaden, I love the guy. Don't turn it. The only reason I'm doing a podcast is how much I love Gary. I was a false 30 seconds ago. I thought that's where you. you were going, this is what you always do. You asked a question about emotions and care. Then you said gaslight
Starting point is 00:54:10 her? And fill their toothpaste and then go, what are you talking about? You're like is Santa Claus gaslighting the children? Sure is. Terrible logic. Oh, that's definitely he is. All right. All right, all right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:26 Okay, pass. Cut the gaslight in section. I have an asshole. Go ahead. Not to kick a ideal horse when it's down, but I also don't think I could hide it at her place without her finding it. Right. Okay. You can have it in your bag. I got a pitch.
Starting point is 00:54:42 You know, so, women can't find things. Like Santa. I open the fridge and my girlfriend, I'm like, I can't find the ketchup, can't find the ketchup. And then I'm like, it's like, it's right the fuck, you're idiots. That's why you have more ketchup in your bag. Also, guys, we got to get away from secret stash because it scares me. No, no, secret stash.
Starting point is 00:54:57 Danny, please. You're a 20-year-old guy in a beautiful relationship. Don't start secret stash. Danny, I'll give you my email if you want to talk offline about the secret stash. There's going to be a new show releasing on Tuesdays called Secret Stash Ideas. It's just Gareth giving
Starting point is 00:55:14 bad advice to women. I think the only pitch is that like you have like where days and what days? Like what are you stashing and then the next day it's where you stashing? Each episode's two hours. I pitch you turn her place into a mini target.
Starting point is 00:55:30 So Dan, I got a pitch for you. It might be running a mile to go a block, but I would like you to potentially write her a poem or a letter that you recite for her with the theme of it except my paste. This is gaslighting. This is not gaslighting. Okay, sir.
Starting point is 00:55:54 Danny, no. This is a bad idea, Jayton. Okay, these are very funny. Here, I thought I got to. Jake, that's offensive. This is where the issue goes, like, you did call a comedy podcast for advice on your relationship. So you will give audience.
Starting point is 00:56:12 I just have to just get one out there that maybe you could just hunker down and say, I love you if you're using the L word. I love you. I want to do this for you. Please let me do this for you. You're my favorite. That's except my paste, but as a poem. I can't.
Starting point is 00:56:28 No, but like, don't. That's secret stash, except the opposite. By the way, we're all living off the fattest secret stash. No, we're not. So, Danny, where are you kind of at here? So I have tried to do the conversation of like, look, this is like me trying to be nice to you. Of course. It took me longer than it should have.
Starting point is 00:56:58 Have you ever done secrets to catch? It sounds kind of loose, Jake. I haven't. Have you ever buried toothpaste in a woman's yard? The yard, that's where you're going, the yard? Yeah, Derek wants you to dig holes in the backyard.
Starting point is 00:57:12 Come home dirty, three in the morning. Walking with mud hands. Yeah. Oh, you were looking for false? Yeah, she's like, here use some of my soap. This is really good. If you look really scared
Starting point is 00:57:24 and the places you're hiding, like you're dirty, you're sweating, like, no, I'm fine. I'm hiding. She's got to think you're a murderer. Why are your knees covered in dirt? By the way, then that's the perfect time for Jake's poem. I just read it that, dude.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Yeah, by the way, hey, game, thanks for coming. Garrison, I got this. Yeah, don't worry, buddy. We got to drink her out, that reader of the poem. She won't. Money in the bag. Follow up with us, Danny. Or not.
Starting point is 00:57:52 Danny, so back to you. Where are you going to thinking? We've given you some maybe bad pitches, but I still think there's a winner here so far. But where are you at? You know, I think I might try and not do a, do a known stash with the poem. Like blend the two ideas. Like, say, look, no matter what, I'm leaving this here at your place, because eventually you're going to run out.
Starting point is 00:58:20 And this is a poem about why you should use it, no matter what. Yes. Please use it. Okay. Can we write it right now together? Yes. Well, I just want to do. We want to make sure that we're not teetering on the line of condescension.
Starting point is 00:58:35 How? I just think that being like, I know you've expressed, because there also is a world here of her expressing her wishes to the contrary. I understand that that might come from place of maybe embarrassment or pride. This is a different generation of men. Just to say, they're like, if she's like, no, I don't need that, I don't want that. And then to give a box with the poem and be like, here's why you're wrong. Hey, hey, Gayton, welcome to our generation.
Starting point is 00:59:02 Could we do a gift card? This is where women have gotten tired of us. Could we just do a gift card? If we do a gift card, is that then sort of bridging the gap and walking the line of like, here is something towards what I've taken. You don't even need to be so overt as saying it, but you could give her that a gift card and just be like, here you go.
Starting point is 00:59:21 I mean, look, I know I use some shit. I don't think she doesn't want the money from him. I think I've, I think I might have figured out a middle ground with the stash situation. Do a stash at yours. You can put it wherever you want. You have it. You're buying it on your own accord for you. And then if the conversation comes up, if the time comes where she's short and she's like, money's tight or things get, most of me just like, oh, wait, I have an extra two.
Starting point is 00:59:46 So this goes back to Danny two times. But we just change, we just changed the name. You call a pantry, Danny. Danny's got a pantry and Danny's pantry's full of goodies Like a stash Yeah I get
Starting point is 01:00:01 But you know what you do Danny Boulkes What Danny Coglio Danny Crosco Danny's Club Danny's Club Danny's club
Starting point is 01:00:11 Danny's club is you go to Costco and you buy 40 toothbrushes 40 and you go I got such a deal on this
Starting point is 01:00:21 and she goes this is crazy. You go, I know I'm part of Danny's club. It's just a lie once. You do one lie. Yeah, one lie. You buy everything in one bowl in one setting. No, it's not a lie.
Starting point is 01:00:32 Fuck the deal. You go, hey, I just did something crazy. She goes, what? You go, I went to like this, you know, Costco type place. I just bought everything in bulk. And she goes, why? I don't know. It's cheaper if you get things in bulk.
Starting point is 01:00:44 And she goes, what'd you buy? And you go, 60 toothpaces. Your lotion. I bought your lotion and your face water. Let me know because I have it in bulk and it would be stupid to buy it again. You could also blame it. You could also scapegoat it either on inflation, yeah, or that it's for emergencies. I just thought it'd be good to have in case there's an emergency and there's a run on stuff.
Starting point is 01:01:06 We have all the things we like. How about this, Danny? What if we just say you just won a contest? Gaten, tell him I know. Okay. Okay. I know. Because this podcast is going to get released and she'll see this.
Starting point is 01:01:22 But then by then it's too late. If she's going to hear it, she's going to see it. And then she's going to go, why do you buy a bulk? I like, I like Kate and setting us straight when we get cooking at our own little weird direction. Again, I thought I had a winner. I know. I thought I had like five winners. It's not a line.
Starting point is 01:01:40 This is interesting because it is actually, Danny, I'll give you credit, there's a lot of nuance here because they're, this is way tougher. that initially I was like ah this isn't going to be that big of a deal but like you said you've already gone down I think a pretty logical route of just sitting down and saying this is no issue with me I love you there's no problem very simple
Starting point is 01:01:58 I would like to do this for you out of the kindness of my heart and appreciation for you as a partner and even and then the response was what was the response to that what was the vibe around it the whole vibe was exactly what you guys were saying earlier of like
Starting point is 01:02:14 it's not like a she feels financially beholden to me then or whatever. It's just like she's a big girl. She can take care of herself, and she doesn't like want to make that the dynamic. Guys, it's hit me. I've got to go. What if he just says, all right?
Starting point is 01:02:36 I respect it. Fuck it. I've got a pitch on that pitch. By the way, you know, you thought we had a winner and we didn't. Welcome to. to our world. On top of that.
Starting point is 01:02:50 That ain't it, Caden. Why don't you do this, though? Why don't you do this, though? Why don't you just have a toiletry bag of your stuff at her place? So even if you want to use her products,
Starting point is 01:03:05 you have your own little like up front out in the open staff. It's buying fucking bulk. It is coming to, it is funny to me how we're what, 20 minutes in this conversation with Danny and it's not a heard to us if there's not a single girlfriend
Starting point is 01:03:18 in the vicinity of this conversation. My girlfriend heard this. Oh my God. Because he's calling us. He called this point. Yeah. And guess what, Danny? You called the right place. Yeah, the Ghostbusters get rid of the ghosts.
Starting point is 01:03:36 We'll walk them around the park. So, Danny, we've given you a lot of shots on goal. Tell us which one got through. I think I think I'm a fair response so many good options I definitely I definitely could just have my own toiletries there
Starting point is 01:04:04 that is probably the most logical thing to do I'm thinking it's more fun to someone mentioned a gift card I think I'm going to do the poem and the gift card and see if that gets her. I like the idea of the poem. I think I do two. I'm going to write something. I think
Starting point is 01:04:24 it's weird enough that it might like throw her off her game and just kind of accept it. Geth. Get in that. I know. I mean, like, so we put a bunch of toothpaste in her house. He's holding the pen. He's holding a pen. He's holding.
Starting point is 01:04:40 It's like, I have to win this situation. Let him sign. Yeah, he's about to sign the camera. I just mean. This is not when the junior or the new agent at the firm goes like this. Is this morally correct? You'll have to excuse my partner. But I think the deal benefits us more than him. Shut up.
Starting point is 01:04:59 All right. So, Danny, do you want to do something now or do you want to send a voice note later? Do you want to just start coming from the top of your head what that poem's going to look like and just improvise a first draft? Yeah. Yeah, let's do it. It has to rhyme. It has to rhyme. I don't think it necessarily.
Starting point is 01:05:19 I mean, if it does, okay. Please. What's the high? Do the haiku. What's the rule for haiku? Is it 5115? Nobody knows.
Starting point is 01:05:29 That's what's great about them. Great. Let's give you a moment of silence. We're not going to jump in and help. If you sink right now, you sink. It's okay. That's what first drafts are for. But let's hear the first draft with a title.
Starting point is 01:05:41 I remember mine except my paste. Everybody hated. But you do yours. Takeover, Danny. I think the title is, I want you to be clean. Was that I want you to be clean or I want you to be queen? It's so perfectly close. Could be my clean, queen.
Starting point is 01:06:10 I want you to be clean, my queen. All right, keep going. How about? Okay. I want you to be clean. When you don't accept my soap, it feels kind of mean. Ooh. Let's see, what else?
Starting point is 01:06:33 Feel it, don't think it. Thank you. Good guidance. Just put words out there. Just literally say anything. Words. That's, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:06:48 The, nope, I got nothing. It's a first draft. It's right. And you're thinking, and that's what matters. We're getting, look, I think you want to feel and you're going to have thoughts, and that's what we wanted. You could write a draft and you could call in for a two-minute follow-up in a week or two.
Starting point is 01:07:09 We could approve it if you wanted. That's cool. I also wonder, Jake, I wonder if, I mean, I don't, we don't have. have to go to Natalie. I can only imagine what she thinks about where we've landed. Natalie, your thoughts. I had to leave because your brother doesn't
Starting point is 01:07:26 know how to use technology, so I missed. Natalie, can you say that in a poem? So really quickly, then we've got about two minutes. Gareth, Gaiton. Yes. Can we help him write the poem? I want you to be
Starting point is 01:07:41 queen. I think that's better than I want you to be queen. We landed on a poem? Yeah, Natalie, you took off. Okay, you left the kids and we built something. You can't leave the family and go, everybody's wearing con-off jeans? What burned? He didn't raise the kids with me. I was alone.
Starting point is 01:07:58 All right. Well, good luck, Danny. Thank you. Let's go with I want you to be queen. Let's start with that. Because I think I want you to clean insinuations. Like, you need to do this because you're stinky. And I don't think that's the point here.
Starting point is 01:08:11 I agree. I think that's fair to say. Okay. I want you to be queen. Go, Gareth. And my queen deserves toothpaste, deodorant, and cream. Ooh. Okay.
Starting point is 01:08:29 I wouldn't hate it if you were slightly lean. No. We don't get to write again. We can throw out a new one. I'll just try that one. I'll just try that one. Okay. Sorry, that was a bit mean.
Starting point is 01:08:39 That was when I. and creams. It comes from a place of me wanting you to feel seen. Excuse me, I'm going to smoke a clove and work on my zine. I don't know if every line has to rhyme. I feel like it's getting us in a bad place.
Starting point is 01:09:07 Oh, look at you. You look so beautiful in lace. What's going on, man? That's why I sometimes use the products at your place. Ooh. If a 12-year-boy wants to ride your scooter, spray him with mace in the face. That's a callback, Jake. That's a little out of place. How about this, Danny? We got to go. Danny, we're sorry.
Starting point is 01:09:32 That's the best of them. Take some of it, Danny. How about this? The poem is called I'm sorry. And the thing you're trying to say is, I know that you don't want this stuff here. and I don't know if it's about money or what it's about. But I would love you to have this up. It means a lot to me to leave it here. I feel close to you.
Starting point is 01:09:52 And I would like to be able to do this. If you feel very uncomfortable, I'll stop. But if it's okay with you, I would love to be able to buy these toiletries. And the last line could be, look, lady, I tried to give you the cash. You forced my hand. Now there's a secret stash. Yeah, all right. Good old night.
Starting point is 01:10:11 And Gaden, thank you for being on the show, man. Thank you, Gayton. I had an absolute blast. Thank you so much. I hope I should have been of help. Thank you. You definitely were. We needed you.
Starting point is 01:10:24 Call me any time. I'd be happy to come in. There's a little sort of part. It's a fucking blast. A little Gen Z voice to just. Yeah, we need it. We need it. As you can say, it's necessary.
Starting point is 01:10:33 We need it. Danny. Follow up with us. Yeah. I will. Thank you so much, guys. We're here to help is hosted by Jake Johnson and Gail.
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