We're Here to Help - 244: Ear to Help & The Master Appears (with Eric Edelstein)
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And we're here, we're here, we're here, two, we are back.
We can pick it up.
Okay.
Hi, Jake.
Hey, Gareth.
See, my last episode that we are doing before New Year's, you got one with the great Colton done on Wednesday.
He does it all.
We love him.
New Year's.
New Year's.
What are you doing for New Year's?
I'm actually doing a show in Pots Town, Pennsylvania at a place called Soul Jules,
which is a real interesting little venue.
So I got to run a show as I'm doing.
It's like he started, he converted like a country club into a comedy club and other stuff,
but it's like a restaurant and big name comedians are like, I love going here.
How come?
Just because he treats you really well, it's kind of nice.
It's a little more upscale Pots Town.
Even the people of Pots Town, it's one of those towns where they don't mind you shitting on Pots Town as far as the city goes.
That's fun.
But it's a diamond and the rough sort of situation.
Okay, so you're excited about it.
I am.
It came in last minute, and I am.
I'm excited about it.
But, you know, it's different when you do stand-up for New Year's and watch people experience New Year's.
Versus experience New Year's.
But, yeah, that's what I'm doing.
And then I'm doing a run of shows out that area.
But what are you doing?
Going to Vegas with the family.
And you're going back to the Venetian.
Yeah, I'm going back to the Venetian.
I'm going to Vegas.
I want to see what Vegas is like with kids.
I've never done it.
They've never been.
What time does New Year's start with kids then?
We're doing midnight.
We're doing the whole thing.
Oh, wait.
Wait, but what are the kid activities you're doing?
So the kid activities, I mean, they got, I'll kind of be able to report after, but it's a bunch of stuff.
Ziplining, they have an indoor amusement park.
Yeah, right.
You've got like shows.
I was like, oh, yeah, we'll go see a fucking magician.
We're going to see a circus delay show on water where I'm like, stuff I would never do, but I'm like, yeah, we were looking at what to.
do. We're like, it's got to be near LA. We could go here. I'm like, it's Las Vegas. It's so easy
to get to. Everybody's saying no one's going to Vegas. I'm like, great, perfect time to go.
And then you do, you have the kids, they stay up for midnight at this point.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. We did last year we were in San Francisco and then, in Chinatown, watching
fireworks, watching street fireworks, which was fun. Just walking on the guys who sell it, they would walk
outside and I'd be like, watch this guy. He pops them off. We would all yell, happy New Year.
It's fucking awesome.
Fucking street fireworks in San Fran.
Jake Johnson planning versus this year feels a little more like the wife had some influence.
Gareth, it's all been me the last couple of years.
The trips are getting weird, brother.
We were in the Arctic Circle.
Fire, Jack.
Fire.
When we were in Alaska.
When we were in Alaska, when we were in the Arctic Circle, we went to a guy's house,
and he was giving us a tour of the stuff he's killed.
There were flies buzzing around in the house.
It smelled like dead animals, and there was a, he was walking around.
There was a huge rifle behind him, and my daughter said to me, she leaned in and she goes,
in all my nightmares of being kidnapped, it would always be they take me to a place like this.
And I go, you're exactly right.
And to me, in my head, I went, I hope you're having a wonderful family vacation.
But you are in your heaven, though.
You're like, whoa, flies.
It's gamey in here.
Look at all these heads.
It was too gamey, too much.
But you weren't scared straight.
You're still, you still have a chimp head behind you.
If you're born so crooked, you can never be squared to scared straight.
That's the problem.
Merch.
Merch, book title, autobiography.
So today's episode, we got a fun one.
We have everybody's favorite Eric J. Edelstein.
It's just magic.
Now, you brought Eric into this.
It feels validating, I'm sure, to bring, I mean, I feel it, to bring Eric to our fans and have them find, yes, yes.
Well, what I really think of Eric is, and I've said this to you guys a lot, you know, he's, nobody is a better example of being an onion than Eric.
You just keep, you know, I've known him and hung out intimately with Eric since 2004, really without breaks.
I don't have any deeper of understanding
that I did on day one.
When I met him, we were in 1545 North Lost Palmas,
which used to be an hourly, like, sex hotel.
And when I moved in, my roommate, Brian Farrell, said,
you know the guy Eric from downstairs?
He's been asking about you.
And then one day, there's a knock on the door,
and Eric is leaning on the doorframe,
covering everything.
I opened the door, and he goes,
I was, hey, man, you're the new guy?
And I go, yeah, and he goes, you want to drive around on my convertible?
I won it on a game show and take some pills and eat hamburgers.
And I go.
Yeah, I think so.
Got this car, we took some sort of a downer.
He drove an hour and a half to get.
Go eat a hamburgers.
To eat a hamburger at, like, the most medium hamburger joint I'd ever been to.
This is the best, brother.
And that's what he was like, wow, man.
I'm like, man, this is.
is a step above a hearties, Jack.
And I was like, it took us an hour
and a half, and he's like, fries are
endless. I'm like, they should be.
They're not good. They're compensating.
But if they give you
more, that means the quality
is not great. That's right.
The fancy restaurant, there's like three little things
in the middle. Because they're so good.
Because they're so good. They're morsels.
You're talking about a guy who's
endlessly throwing potatoes at a problem.
Merch.
But he comes on today.
It's a great show.
As always, it's a fun one.
We appreciate you guys all following with us.
We wish you all a happy New Year.
Everybody be safe.
Where are you going to be again?
What state, Gareth?
Pottstown, Pennsylvania.
You can go to Gareth Reynolds.com.
That'll be in Kansas City right after that.
If you want to check those, make-em-up shows a couple days later.
From Pennsylvania to Kansas City?
It's not great.
That's hard.
It's hard.
I'm flying my day off.
Yeah, it makes a lot more sense.
It's all a little last minute.
That works.
Really, thank you to everybody who's listening this year, share the show.
For sure.
Talk about the show, but we're very excited for the next to the coming.
Also, we have very exciting news coming very soon.
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What's your name? I'm going to go with Jackie. Hi, Jackie. And Jackie, where are you
hypothetically calling from? Southern California.
beautiful and uh how old are you air quoting jackie
34 years old
34 socal fake name jackie
excited to have you here um jake you want to know the sign
you care you're running things baby uh all right jackie let's just get into it we're excited
you've got enthusiasm let's not dim your light what is going on what can we help you with
i'll be honest we're on fire today so oh my gosh
Yes.
We've got a weird one for you guys.
Yeah, okay.
All right.
Let's party.
What's up?
Okay.
So I'll start off by setting the scene a little bit because I think the context will really help.
It's an issue I have at work because I work at a medical office.
I'm a PA, which is physician assistant.
I see patients every day.
My specialty is ENT, so ear, nose, throat.
So, you know, obviously very glamorous,
lots of mucus, pus, and, of course, like,
tons of ear wax.
Great.
But, yeah.
Quick question for you, Jackie.
Quick question.
Hey, Jackie, quick medical question.
Yeah, yeah.
If you're not great at hearing,
if somebody's, like, not great,
should they just get their ears cleaned out?
It depends, but, yeah,
I'm not sure, like, if it's an issue
with not good at hearing or just not listening.
So that's always.
But, like, is earwax build up something?
No, you're right.
You're right.
Yeah, I can.
Can block your hearing for sure.
That's why I see tons of people for that.
And how does, what's the process?
How do you get that cleaned out?
Yeah, that's part of my call.
So, because I...
Oh, okay.
She's in SoCal.
Sorry, sorry.
She wants, Jake, this is us, try to get your ears clean.
I'm just interested.
Do you want to do a telehealth appointment?
Maybe.
I don't know.
I kind of thought this was.
Yeah, no, so essentially because we're a specialty office, we're not, we're not doing like the flushing method with water.
That's like what you'll see at the urgent care, maybe your primary care office, but we're talking like specialized instruments.
I'm like two inches away from your face, sticking around for gold in there with like, you know, yeah, you know, sometimes.
Yeah, it's pretty intimate.
We use, sometimes we'll use like little cures, we call them,
or a little like forceps or suction, like a little vacuum.
Very intimate.
And, yeah, you know, it's a pretty sensitive area.
I'm not comfortable with this.
I like it.
Yeah, some people really aren't.
Yes.
I want it done.
I want it done because they just all of a sudden were like, don't use Q-tips.
And that's where they left us hanging.
Well, look, I want to have it head done.
Yeah, that's what I want.
I don't like a stranger in my ear, two inches from my face.
I don't mind it.
You're not alone in that.
For the show.
Keep going for the show.
It was for the show.
Back to you?
Wowie.
Yeah.
Well, anyway, yeah.
So, like, there are some people who are really sensitive to it.
They kind of come in, they freak out.
You know, I get to know them.
They start to feel more comfortable.
I have regulars come in.
So I'm not a stranger to everyone.
And then there are some people who, like,
clearly really
enjoy the ear cleaning process
like a lot
like a little too much if you know what I mean
keep going oh like pervy
I mean
like the ear
is a sensitive area like
in more ways than one
I don't know if you catch my drift
are you just you got to be clear here because this is really
weird stuff erogenous zone are you saying
yeah yeah it is
it is it is widely
known as a, like a potent erogenous zone.
Is that right?
I thought the outside maybe, but I didn't think of the tool in the hole.
Well, inside, that's why some people like love cutipping their ears, you know?
Oh, it's permanent.
I mean, it's just, it's like when you get a massage or something, like, and also, yes, it's
it's satisfying and I will say like some people like they'll like make noises when I'll clean their ears
okay um yeah they'll like moan like some people even like can we hear like are you talking you don't
have to do it but are we talking like oh Gareth stop Jake I'm talking to Jackie for a minute
chill out dude Jesus Christ
like that
I mean
all of that was just so you could do that
of course you know what a moan is
I'm curious how pervian is
you're just trying to get a sound clip
now they don't cut that
talking about
we're going to talk for
three and a half hours today
you're like he's got this sound clip
up his sleeve
oh hey stay moan
said a how like this
but I didn't want
I was asking the question
but I didn't want
I was going to ask Jackie to do it, but then I'm like, well, that's extra perfect.
Of course.
We don't need her to do it either.
It is just making sure that these are orgasm sounds.
Well, it's more like, and I-
Let her answer.
I can say like, it's like, I'm not creeped out by it because it's like,
you feel like pretty sweet older men.
They maybe are alone.
They're not sweet.
All right.
They're fake sweet.
Where in SoCal?
Let's get a zip.
Oh, God.
I don't know if I really want to share that.
Jackie, slow down.
Gareth is getting weird.
It's true, Jackie.
Everybody, take a minute.
Yeah.
Gareth, cool it.
You're right.
You're absolutely right.
Something about her going and said,
your ear, you're changing.
Cool it.
Gareth.
Cool it.
You hear me?
I can hear you.
I can hear you better if she got involved.
Yep.
Cool it.
Having a little trouble here, you're honest.
This is a professional show.
You're right.
You're right.
She called in for help.
Yeah.
Not for some older guy to creep out about the ear stuff.
Okay.
Jackie, the floor is yours.
The show's yours.
Well, okay.
So, yeah, I mean, some people are, like, pretty vocal.
They'll say, like, oh, wow, yeah, that feels good.
Like, it's like, okay, I hear you.
Like, it's better than the alternative, in my opinion, where people are like,
oh, get away from me.
Yeah, that's kind of gross.
I agree.
Go ahead, Jackie.
Yeah.
But it's, yeah, it's like, I have this, like, when they say that, I'm not sure exactly how to respond.
Like, it's like this moment, I'm really close to you.
You're, like, telling me that it feels good.
And I just usually kind of freeze.
And the question I guess that I have is, like, what do I do?
Like, do I use it?
Do I ignore it?
Like, how, like, I feel like.
It's always awkward, but there might be a better way.
This is interested.
So really the question is, how do you dissuade people from being vocal
because it unnerves you a little bit?
Or how do I respond to it?
Yeah, how do I respond?
Like, I'm not necessarily, like, I'm not necessarily against them having a pleasant experience.
And I'm not trying to be weird about it, but I also, like, I mean, like,
the whole appointment is kind of weird.
Like, people get their ears clean.
They love seeing what comes out of their ears.
It's true.
That's pretty common.
It's like the pimple popping shit.
It's like there's something.
Yeah, everybody's like disgusting photos.
Let's party.
Let's party.
I don't know.
I don't really.
Come on.
Do you want to see them?
We're professionals.
I think for work we have to.
I couldn't even look at them when I was putting filing them because they're so nasty.
All right.
So,
that's come out of the ears of patients?
All kinds of things.
I sent a variety for you guys.
Oy, yeah, it looks like dog teeth.
Wowy.
What is?
Oh, my God.
It looks like a used cocoon.
It's going on with people's ears.
Why is your coffee so close?
What is that a battery?
Is that an earwaxed battery?
Ew.
Oh, my God.
It's grossing me out.
What is that?
What is that like a set of metal teeth?
That just looks like Plato.
Blue, that's blue?
That's a little sperm next to it.
Oh, Jake, you need to see a doctor.
Oh, my God.
What is that?
That looks like, is that spider legs?
Oh, ear hair.
No, that one I think is an eyelash extension from some girls.
eyelashes somehow got in there.
Crazy night.
I'm not sure.
Okay.
All right.
So, Jackie, we got to get to the question here specifically.
So there's your ear, nose, throat specialist.
Wow.
You're really close to the ears.
Sometimes they moan and say they're enjoying it.
And your question is, is how can you respond when you are in somebody's ear and they're liking it?
Yeah.
The question is, what's an appropriate response?
Yeah, or like how how do I respond in general, like with this position I'm in, like, you know, I guess, yeah, we can start with like a response in the moment or like in general, I don't know, sometimes I wonder like, is this an opportunity to expand on business? I don't know. Whoa, go on. Whoa.
Well, I guess, like, I don't know if you guys, like, have ever had a massage.
Like, it's sort of like that to people, I wonder.
Like, is this, I don't know.
My specific question when I emailed in was how do I respond to these folks?
Hey, Jackie, you just said something.
Hold on.
Yes.
Keep going.
So, Jackie, are you looking how to turn this into a happy ending?
No, no, no, no.
I'm not looking for like an e-agasm situation at all.
Sounded like you were building towards it.
Like the term.
No, no, no.
Yeah, I guess I'm a very dearest.
It's a great turn.
No, Jackie, don't bail out on what you were just saying.
No, where are you going?
I'm curious.
Yeah, you start going and then you bounce around.
We need you to say what you're thinking here.
This is a no judgment zone with judgment.
Yep, there's no judgment here, but from Jake a lot right now.
There's a lot of jokes.
There's a lot of jokes that are judging.
my my my when I was waiting for the call last you know a few days I'm thinking like oh you know
this is sort of an opportunity like I could I could think about like you know doing this
outside the office like as far as ear cleanies go like ear ear spa kind of thing like people
like that sort of thing and like you know that could be a niche but I again I'm not I think
let's maybe we'll circle back to that it's a very it's it's tough to leave that behind but
okay why don't we try to solve it and we'll see but see i thought you were against the sounds
but you're really just sort of not sure how to respond in kind but she's also do i open up a side
business where i see jake you can't bring up side business and then have jake leave to pollinate a
different plan.
You're not wrong, Gareth.
It's too big of a thing.
If I'm driving in my car and I hear that, here's what I don't want to hear.
Let's pitch jokes of what she could say in response.
I'm thinking, this woman wants to open up a side business where she's leaning into the
fact that these old guys are like, I like it when you're inside my ear.
And Jackie's going, I know, I might get a $150.
Okay.
But Jackie, is this?
And walk me through just the plan, if it were real, what that would look like.
Are you looking, you're just going to go deeper in their ear?
No, no, no, no.
If they go, like, ooh, that feels good.
And you go, you like that?
How about this tool?
No.
I guess, like, I guess it's sort of been on my mind for a while to do at-home ear
cleanings for these people who have a really hard time coming into the office.
Would you ever do it in a hotel?
Why do they have a hard time coming into the office?
Oh, they're old.
They need rides.
They can't drive.
Oh, understood.
Okay.
I mean, at home, the care is great.
Or if you were mobile as well, that's another option.
But okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What's the hotel?
Oh, you're going to go to a hotel.
No, not me, Jackie.
Well, well, well, Johnson.
I'm trying to get a sense of what.
I'm trying to get a sense of what this.
business is and what you're pitching because sometimes you'll make it seem like you're pitching
a regular thing. But the origins of this call was you go inside these old men's ears and they like
it. And you're really close and you think maybe there's something more. So this isn't, could I be a
mobile business? Of course you could. But you're thinking these old creeps like this and I don't
mind it. Jackie, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But look, there's a lot of smoke coming from this.
cabin and I'm going, I think there's a fire in there.
Jackie, look, my partner's saying there's either a fire or a new pope, which is it?
Okay.
Okay, yeah, great question.
I guess I am very open to all directions of which this will go to.
Shutting it down is one thing that I think would just sort of be a good in-office scenario.
And not, you know, making it too weird because.
it's, you know, professional setting.
But you might be open to create an unprofessional setting in the ear cleaning zone.
Let's get to the professional shutdown after we pitch on this, maybe.
Because what I'm thinking is, what if you almost sort of did, like, ear spa where it's like
you could put a hot towel on the ear, you could like get the hair off the ear, you could give a little bit of an ear,
massage, and then the coup de grace, the, dare I say, happy earnding, is the wax removal
full cleaning.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, the hair thing is really on point.
Also an ear massage, though.
You know what we can do, Jackie?
We could get on Squarespace and create a website for you.
Now we are talking.
where it's, you are an ear specialist, but you do special care.
So if someone's boning in the office, you could say, if interested, you should check out my website.
I think there's something you might like more.
Yeah, like, I can continue doing this here, but I do offer another service, and they go,
ha!
I could give you another service.
Ha!
I think you might like my side biz.
Okay, I'll take it.
So one thing, but if you had something where you had a little card
that they could leave with the card,
then they could go privately look at the website and go like,
it's a whole cleaning, it's an ear massage,
it's soothing music, it's at the comfort of my home,
it's 20 minutes on each ear.
And then the wax removal.
And then you, it's like 30 minutes and it's full ear care.
This is pretty good.
Where you go like, you know what?
I'm willing to spend cash.
I want to just lay on my side and have that woman do a bunch of weird stuff to my ears.
I mean, it's like manicure for your ear.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I like that.
I mean, I guess I haven't really thought about it in that way because that's, I mean,
I'd have to get, I have to like kind of learn.
those things, those spa type things, but yeah, I feel like back, there's a whole, I could have like a whole
menu of options. I bet you if you got, like there's those, I think they have like little towel
steamers at spas. If you got like a little thing where you steam a towel, you start on like an ear,
you put a steam towel on it, you put on some nice music, you have some infused smells in the room,
then you go to a massage, you give it a massage, then you start putting some lotion on it when you
further massage, then you do the other ear, same thing, and then at the very end,
you just, like, do your wax removal shit and you're cleaning?
I mean, that's an hour.
I'm a comedian.
That's a full set list.
But, Jackie, is this something you want to do?
I think I want to do it.
I'm falling in love with it.
This is a full, this is a different path.
Yeah, well, the thing is, yeah, like, I,
I am, I'm starting to think about going more part time in my office and I've been thinking about, you know, things that are a little more family friendly for family planning and like scheduling, doing my own schedule.
So it has sort of been something like that I've been thinking about as far as like at home stuff, but this is like definitely a whole new level, but I like it.
I mean, because it does sort of incorporate all aspects of the ear cleaning and the enjoyment of it.
So I'm, I wonder if I really would.
Like, I could.
I definitely could try.
You know what you could call your business?
Ear to help.
Oh, my.
Don't call that.
Come on.
No, now can we pitch.
Hey, Natalie, is this what you thought this call was going to be?
No.
Sorry, Natalie.
This is a good direction.
What did you think the cops were going to be like,
You know, this one was a real stumper.
Eric's here.
Eric's here.
I said, I had to Natalie send Eric the thing.
Let's get Eric on.
Okay.
Hey, Jackie, Eric's going to join in.
Okay.
What's up, King?
Eric.
How you doing, buddy?
So we got something that I asked Natalie to send.
We need your help on this one.
Please.
Jackie, will you give Eric the quick setup?
Oh, boy.
Okay, hi, Eric.
Hi, Jackie.
Good to meet you.
I'm here to help.
Nice to meet you.
I'm so excited that you're here.
So, okay.
Glad someone was.
So.
Such a victim.
Old switchblade.
We brought up the switch plate.
You have it?
I have it.
I brought for you, buddy.
I might order one.
All right.
Keep going, Jackie.
Sorry, Jackie.
Go ahead.
It's all right.
So I am an ear, nose and throat, physician assistant.
I see patients for all sorts of issues, but I do mostly ear cleanings.
And some people really love it.
Some people don't, but the people who really love it, you know, we started at first talking initially about how they'll make, like, groaning noises.
Sometimes they'll lean into it.
Like, oh, wow, that feels good.
Oh, yeah, that sort of thing.
and at first I was thinking like okay in my office this is getting a little weird like how do I respond what's my response but but we sort of started yeah talking a little bit more about like you know I'm not necessarily opposed to just having this be like an opportunity um and you know I was starting to think about doing at home ear cleanings for people who have a hard time getting into the office um and so
So then, yeah, the whole, like, ear spa was pitched with, like, a full ear massage, hot towel, kind of experience.
Kind of that's what we've been talking about.
Is that clear?
Watching Eric.
Yes.
Let me sign up to be your first client, and I won't groan and make noises.
This is not made.
You will make noises and you will grow.
No, no, no, I can hold it in.
Trust me.
Trust me.
I have discipline in unlikely places, friends.
I will absolutely not a bit.
Go to your spa.
If it's located out of town.
It's in SoCal.
SoCal.
Oh, done.
I'm not paying for you to go here.
I'll go with you.
I know you're about to say.
I'll go with here.
I'm legit in.
I'm in.
I'm in.
I'll pay for it.
Now, do the noises bug you out?
Does that freak you out?
Is that part of why you called?
Well, yeah, because at first it's like, oh, like, this is just not, I don't know what to say.
I don't know what to do here in this office.
it's like, it's just very, an unprofessional setting.
But then I'm like, also these guys are like, a lot of times, like maybe lonely, old men,
widows, I'm like, ah, whatever, it is what it is.
And so I'm like, I'm not necessarily totally opposed to it.
I just feel like I didn't, I wanted to be open.
Here's, I think, the bottom line.
She either wants less noise in the office or more noise outside of the office for profits.
Yes.
Yeah, I mean, I'm the perfect person to talk.
to because my wife started an empire grooming dogs in our old house from the garage and just
run a grooming if you don't know and let me just say like there it's a challenge moving it out of the
house because once you start renting a place paying payroll taxes dealing with all this other
stuff it gets a lot more expensive our profit margins when we were out of a garage when we had
Andy Garcia and Tom Sandoval coming over were ridiculous so if you can do this out of your house
cancel Christmas and I'm in not a bit I'm coming over I will pay I won't charge Jake
can't get water out of a rock why would I pay for you to get your ears clean because it's for the pod
Jake because it's for the pod my friend not for the pod well I need my ears clean I want him clean
I'm a former tinnitus sufferer I'm absolutely in you're dead number one I had tinnitus then I got
it cleared from a Neil Young concert he played a guitar chord I get made fun
for this, but it actually really happened. Yeah, I used to have really bad tinnitus. And then a
Neil Young cord got rid of it. In Bakersfield, California. Yeah, this is not a bit. It really, truly
did. What year? Oh, this is probably 2017, 2018. Thank you. Yeah, so I would love to come in.
I have a question for you. I actually just did this. I spray the nozzle in the shower in my ears to
kind of clean it. And it feels amazing. I wouldn't say I'd groan, but it's definitely a satisfying feeling.
Is that okay? I've been doing it for years.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, as long as you don't have, you know, history of eardrum perforation or, like, narrowing ear canals, yeah.
I have incredible ears, incredible hearing. I hear things.
I'll be focused on one conversation and listen to somebody else in case they're talking about me.
I think that's happening right now.
Oh, it's totally right now.
But you'll never hear the original conversation.
I have point guard ears, okay? I'm constantly.
Guys, character actor. Trust me, I do.
I do.
It's part of my
belief of basic good.
So where in a...
Thanks for coming in.
Thanks for calling the show, Eric.
Yeah, thank you.
You helped me.
I was bored.
Where is your office located?
When can I come in?
Wait, Eric.
Nothing's a bit.
I know.
Okay, so I'm coming in.
She's not offering that.
Yes.
Well, yes, she wants to.
We're midwife.
Jackie, are you looking for a client?
Do you want Eric to come in?
How much do you charge?
He'll pay you to clean his ears.
Well, I guess that's why you're always selling.
But hold on, Jake.
He could be a test client for the new business model.
Exactly.
Thank you, Gary.
That's not what you were pitching, Eric.
No, it wasn't.
Jackie, is this something you're interested in?
Yeah, absolutely.
I think it would be a great launch point for sure.
And then Eric can come on and discuss the process of it.
Maybe we can hook you up with Squarespace and start a website.
and that could be part of our Squarespace
who just bought a bunch more ads.
They want to keep partnering.
So we've got to find something to link in with them.
We could maybe hook you up with one.
You would have to build the site.
Yeah.
But it could be in our ads,
we could talk about this.
So, Jackie,
does this solve the problem?
This is solved the problem.
I just came in here and solved the problem.
In, like, record time.
In, like, under nine minutes.
I came in, helped a bunch of people.
I'm client number one.
But, Jackie, is this something you actually want?
Is this why you called in that Gareth and Eric will come to your house
and you'll clean their ear?
And we will get you a 10% discount on the square of space website for you to clean ears out of your home.
And Eric is a switchblade that he keeps.
opening. Eric's also arm, Jackie.
Just so you know, Eric's coming over to your house
with an illegal search plate.
Is this
why you call this show?
Not
exactly, but I'm pretty excited
about where we've landed. So I
say successful call
all in all. May I say
one thing very quickly? He's not buying.
Eartohelp.com
is available.
Oh, wow. Are you
kidding? That's amazing.
I'm proud to know you.
Now, let me ask you a question, Jackie, just so we can set rates.
Would you be really uncomfortable doing it out of your house so that Eric's advice about
Jess Rana Grooming makes sense?
Yes, I have, yes, I have a space that I could do it.
I think it would be maybe a hybrid, though, because I still like the idea of kind of helping
people who can't leave their home.
Okay, so you could go to them or they could come to you.
it's a little bit more if you go to them
and for an hour
what do you think of fair prices for this
because insurance doesn't cover this
so Eric for real
if you were going to go and the service is this
you go she cleans your ears
massages your ears
and then in the end
cleans everything out of it.
Oh she's massaging the ears too
hot towel massage
that's why the old guys are groaning
hot towel no this is the new
This is going to be the new service. Hot towel, clean, massage at the end, deep clean out.
I won't pay a dollar more than 90 bucks Canadian. So you would do 90 bucks for that.
No, whatever the going rate is, I'm happy to pay. We're creating a gold. We're creating a race.
Well, let's look online and see what people charge. What do you charge right now at this office for that service?
For just, we just do your cleanings and sometimes I'll also like trim the hair. There's a lot of hair.
Oh, sister. I need it.
Eric's ears look like a fake eyelash fell in them
No it's for every hair I lose on the top of my head
Is any of my ears in my upper back
I'm such a believer
I don't know why God has done this to me
Go to a Neil Young concert see if they can get you rid of that
Trust me I've tried
Some of those cords don't help that
No uh uh no it added more hair
Jackie what do you think a fair rate is for something like this?
Yeah it is actually you kind of nailed it
It's like 80 to 90 for, like, coming into the office for a cash price.
Okay.
Just the air cleaning.
So, yeah, maybe, like, a little higher, like, maybe 100.
Be, like, more, like, paying for a massage plus you getting, like, some medical treatment.
Okay.
So we've got Natalie brought up a website.
All right.
I think that's a very fair price.
If this is something that you want, we could connect you with Eric after.
And then.
And Garrett, Garrett's coming, too.
We're going to make a day of it.
This is overdue, GR.
We're going to scallops.
I don't know about the scallops part of our ear cleaning, but yes.
Gareth is going to bail.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
He's a calming force in this whole podcast process.
He really is.
He's midwifling through a lot.
I'm going to put the top down, drive up the coast,
meet her mouth of seafood.
We're going to their ears clean.
We're going to have a long, meaningful hug, and call it a day.
Listen, I think it's going to happen.
I really do.
I believe it's going to happen.
I think we could film some of it.
We could get some footage of what the new business model is.
But I'm not kidding.
Outside of any bit, I really do think this is a very viable business.
Thank you.
Thanks for the idea.
And I think, yeah, I think we can.
Barbara, you're silent over there.
Babs, you're not on board with this?
Hello?
Yeah, Jake.
I'm honestly thrown that this is where this call has gone to.
this has been as weird of a call.
I think it started off.
Natalie, what did you think the premise was going to be
when this one started?
How to get men to stop groaning when she's cleaning their ears.
So did I, but then she started alluding to her side.
Now she's got two men going to her house while it keeps opening a switch.
We will talk about the, look, obviously we're going to talk about the switch played part of all this.
All of a sudden, Gareth is a midwife walking Eric through the podcast world?
What the fuck are you saying?
Oh, let's let's let the wild hedgehog out and be confused when he acts like a hedgehog.
I mean, the second you sent me that email, King, you knew what you were getting.
You knew what you were getting.
You can't have fires remorse, Jake.
No, no.
There's no fire's remorse.
Keep it in your head for the entire time I'm involved.
You broke it, you bought it.
I really do
Here I sit.
It ain't that different
from your father's selling
and use cars, okay?
I think we've got a...
How is the solution?
You guys are going to go...
Because I'll answer your question.
I'll answer your question.
I'll answer your question.
First of all, I do think
she's saying that
it's like a pleasurable experience.
So I think if you were to market this
as like, hey,
you like part of this,
I'm going to give you like a whole day
of an hour of ear spot treatment.
That's true.
I think people would go for that.
I also think if she,
I think the prices we're talking about
for her to just remove the wax.
So cheap.
It's just kind of like,
it's a little bit of filler is what it is.
But I also think if you really do,
I think when people get,
like we're saying,
the ears is kind of an erogenous zone.
We're not talking anything creepy,
but we're saying if you give a light massage in there,
that'll feel good,
put a hot towel on it.
And then I do think it's also a great thing
for us to do with Squarespace as well.
And so then, Jackie, I guess the original call, the answer to that is, is when old men moan,
you say, you seem to like this, you might like, and then what's the name of the website,
Garrett?
Here you'll help.
So if they're moaning going, you know, I've had a lot of customers who really enjoy the process
of getting their ears clean, and apart from it being beneficial, it can be enjoying,
enjoyable. So what I've done is
I've created another business,
Eartohelp.com, please check it out.
And if you're interested, I do a full
day of basically
an ear spa. It's the shift
from medical to therapeutic.
And it's saying while they're groaning
in there, this isn't the place for those
sounds,
but that place
is in my other business.
Because what you can't be doing
is be sitting in there, moaning, and groaning. That's
not what this place is for.
This is an ear, nose throat specialist.
If you want to go with your original pitch, how do you stop him groaning?
We'll hire Eric.
He can go there with his illegal switchblade stand in the corner,
and every time some guy makes a groan, he just flicks it open.
Done.
I'll do it for 40 bucks a session.
Gareth will be there.
He's midwifeing either.
Eric, he is a force of guided light.
Yep.
A beacon.
A beacon.
That works, though, actually.
The segue is actually.
kind of perfect like hey look we're yeah like i understand this is yeah this is uh something that
is enjoyable a lot of people feel that way um and then it's kind of a perfect opportunity to yeah but
you can also say but here we we got to kind of keep it a little bit yeah yeah yeah you can't really
make those sounds here because of what this place is but no part of me is offended by it but
there's a different service that you could have for that yeah but here this is more
you know, procedural, it's more of a medical place.
That's more of like a spa environment.
And so these guys might go, I was just using it for the spa.
I don't need my ears cleaned once a month.
I do this for enjoyment.
Rather than come here, I'll just go to Jackie's place.
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
I would also like to offer a free voiceover for this business with Squarespace.
Can you hear the sound of a better future?
Even if you can, ear to help will get you there regardless.
Jake, thoughts?
Okay, thanks.
It's there.
It's there.
It's there.
We have it.
We're spitball in here.
Not everything sticks to use the wall.
Where would we put it on the, it would just when you hit the website that just plays?
No, I'll do fucking ads for her, man.
I'm fully aboard.
I'm cheap.
I'm shockingly affordable.
I'm underrated.
Okay.
What would the ads be?
That, me talking, Gareth and I getting our ears clean.
and then Gareth and I like walking on the beach
eating scallops
Top-down
Culvered Top-down
Govut-Tapanga
Why is it all about the eating
Scala?
Why is it part of it?
It's a full thing.
She's now north of L.A.
It's all part of it.
Coles her to Panga,
drive by Neil Young's old house.
I don't want to, first of all,
I don't want to eat seafood stock
Neil Young at the top.
Let's just go to a...
That's what you think.
That's what you think.
Okay, you're right.
We're acknowledging our problems
and moving forward.
Midwife me.
Yeah.
John Wooden,
Pyramine of Success.
So Jackie,
what are you going to do?
Oh, wow.
Yeah, I'm going to,
I'm going to discuss it with my husband.
Make sure he's cool.
We'll be talking to you real soon about playing A.
Eric, your thoughts.
I didn't know the husband was involved.
Okay.
I mean, if you're having guys over in the.
home downloading. He should probably
be at home. When we had problem
clients with Jess, I'd maybe
hang around. You know? We'll get him a switch
blade. Yeah. Viper
Tech. Florida. It's legal.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not where Eric
lives. No, but the shipping is
once I open it,
it's a legal gray area. No.
It's legal for them to ship it. It's not
legal for me to open it. But that's a whole other
Oprah.
I feel like the switchblade needs to be
far away from the ear.
process. It is. I promise.
I did it earlier. That was just a bit.
It's just a bit.
You also yelled earlier. Nothing's a bit.
The switchblade in the air
is a bit. I value my ears. I need to hear. I'm a
remarkable listener.
Eric, actually, can I ask you a question?
Yeah, please ask me a question. Thank you.
Okay. Do you have any
cats or dogs? Yeah,
I have two dogs.
Do you ever let them lick your ears?
No, because I
I am a little bit of a germaphobe, and I do know about dog bacteria.
So, and both of my dogs really want to lick the big guy.
So I don't let them anywhere near the ears or the nose, and my wife also hates it.
But our one dog, that's like her love language, and it calms her.
So I'll, like, let her lick my leg or my arm.
All right, Jackie, thanks so much for the call.
Thanks, Jackie.
We'll reach out with a booking.
I don't know what we'll reach out with at the end of this.
Well, Jackie, are you happy?
I am. I'm extremely happy.
There we go.
This is a great place to land.
Thank you guys so much for helping.
Before we go, Jackie, where did we land?
Okay, well, I think we landed with just a great segue from the office to the Ear Spa with EartoHelp.com.
I think we should build out the website, figure out a space in the house, and also maybe get a
a little mobile unit as well to go.
Here's what we'll do.
Here's what we'll leave it, Jake.
Jackie.
Yeah, well, let's hook her up with Squarespace.
Is that what you're going to say?
I was going to say, let's hook her up.
I'll even sidebar with her.
I think I could do, I can prepare the day for Eric with her a little bit for the experience,
and we can go from there.
We'll present you with the highlight, and we can say, here's where we landed.
We should film all of it, put all of it on Patreon.
Yes.
Yes.
All sidebar with Jackie.
All right, Jack.
All right, Jackie.
Great to meet you, Jackie.
I won't love my dog with my ear.
See you real soon.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Be safe if you're having old men come to your house, yeah?
Oh, yeah, good call.
Good call.
Thank you.
Yep.
Okay.
All right.
All right.
Goodbye.
Take care, Jackie.
You're welcome.
Hi, you're on.
We're here to help with Jake Johnson and Gareth Reynolds and Eric Edelstein.
can we help you today?
Oh, this is awesome.
Thank you guys.
My name's Will.
I'm 33, calling from Lancaster, PA.
That's the usual thing, I think.
I've been practicing a martial art known as Taekwondo since I was seven years old.
Stop.
I respect the fuck out of Taekwondo.
Go ahead, Will.
I respect the fuck on Taekwondo.
Fight through it, buddy.
Jake, how long did you last in Jiu-Jitsu?
Two years.
Go ahead, Will.
Keep it going, guys.
Yeah, I'm 33, a ripe, young, fresh little age of mine,
and I'm hitting my midlife crisis with this.
I'm ready to retire, I think, but I really don't know how to deal with it.
This is something that I love doing.
It's like, if I could, probably the only thing I'd do.
But as my fellow practitioner might respect, it's not easy.
Hold on, Jake.
who are you talking to you when you say fellow practitioner?
I heard Eric's got a right.
No, Jake, Jake did it for two years.
What belt do you have, my friend?
I am a six-degree black belt in a style that has nine degrees.
Oh, my gosh.
And Jake, what belt did you end up getting?
Why?
Jake got a L.
Okay.
So, you know, I don't know if you're going to call that a fellow practitioner.
We have a six-degree black belt, and we have a white belt.
But please do continue, Will.
Just so you know.
Two different dojo.
does.
Yeah, but you still have a white belt.
Started over the house.
You break your knee with a dummy.
So if I started today, I would get a white belt.
White belt.
Okay, sorry.
Continue, friend.
Go ahead, Will.
Depending on the school, sometimes you show up and you get no belt for a little bit.
Eric, wouldn't get a white belt.
I'd have to go on the big and tall store.
Savage.
All right, well, go on.
So pretty fucking cool.
You're six-degree back belt in Taekwondo.
But you're thinking of retiring.
Tell us why you're retiring.
Well, I've done a little bit of it all.
I've competed internationally.
I've got a gold medal.
It was a wonderful experience.
I've been an instructor.
I've had a number of students.
I've taught at a couple different schools.
Cool.
It just happens to find me at this moment in life where I don't have access to any of that.
My master lives about an hour and a half away.
There's some schools locally, but, you know, Jake, what's now.
You know, there's, there's...
Just fucking yucks, dude.
It's fucking yucks, dude.
They're not my style.
Well, I get it, dude.
I get it.
Dude, you're fucking master's far away.
My master's far away.
The real reason I love the...
Who's your master, Jake?
What do you talk about?
Who's your master, Jake?
You did it near Trader Joe.
Garrett and Eric won't get this, but...
You locked your keys out of your car after practice.
I was exhausted.
You had to drink from a hose.
It was so hard.
But Will, Will, this isn't about it.
We're still.
We still haven't nailed down who Jake's master is yet.
Well, like Will, our true practitioner never says their master's name.
Because he doesn't know it?
Yeah.
To a bunch of slops on his school.
He's talking about it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because he stopped out of 400 yards of his house.
Repastity of police gets called again.
The only black belt who's afraid of a white belt.
All right.
So, well, I'm getting this, brother.
Probably not.
You're thinking of what?
You're thinking of quitting, Taekwon, or just taking a break?
33's young for a fucking midlife crisis, my brother.
You're talking to guys getting close to 50.
We're at the age of it.
Eric has a switchblade.
Garrett purged his hair earlier this year.
We're of the age.
Don't smash Garrett's like that.
Thank you, Will.
You're 33, Will.
Yeah.
But when did you start doing Taekwondo, Will?
As a boy.
Seven years old.
Yep.
Okay, but that makes sense then.
This is what, 24 years of doing this?
Like a kid actor?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's what it is.
I mean, I think off the bat,
the first thing is take a break.
See how you feel.
And down the road, and then it might call you, you might miss it.
But I think, man, you're a goddamn gold medalist,
six-degree black belt.
you're due for a Taekwondo break
to see what the rest of the world
kind of looks like
and take that pressure off yourself.
I like that.
I have done a couple of different stints
and other arts.
Never the great art of Jiu-Jitsu.
Sorry, my brother,
but, you know,
Wichung and Tai Chi,
Jake has some others like that.
But so, Will, what is the specific question
we could help you with?
Because it's a heck of a setup, man.
Brother to brother, I get it.
It is really.
you know one line should I retire but the caveat being at 6th degree black belt in my style
the next rank is master 7th degree black belt is master 8th degree black belt is master 9th degree
is grandmaster oh you're so close to being a master I well that aside I mean that's cool
I'd love that I would but the big thing for me is I feel a very big sense of response
for this next
stage. If I go forward
I got a call
here's an example. I got a call
about three weeks ago from a master
of local master. Yep. And she
asked me, William,
what season of your
practice are you in?
And I said, wow. You've never
no one's ever called you with a question anywhere
near this. William, keep going.
No one's ever called you with that. Go, Will.
Wasn't it what season
do you plan to quit New Girl or?
save the jokes to the pro will yeah my bad no will you can call in i forgot you have master energy already
yeah not quite not quite i think he does resolve there for a bit so so she calls me and she says
what you what sees you in because there's an era of these masters you know who trained me yep
who themselves are about jake's age you know late late 50s and they're early
60s.
Right.
And they're looking to
take the shop
I can get, right?
They're looking to
the only reason I'm letting you go, Will,
is I respect you.
I respect you as a practitioner.
Yeah, he's, okay.
This is sad, Jake.
Keep going, Will.
He respects you like,
I respect somebody
I watch at a concert.
From the sidelines.
What, they're basically dead?
You're respecting somebody who's dead on stage?
Pot. Kettle.
How's it feeling?
Sorry, Will, continue.
a hundred-year-old man
be propped.
Hey, that's a master.
Sorry.
I'm going to have to put like a sorry counter.
All good.
I'm going to put a sorry counter on the episode to see how many times you guys
apologize.
Please, and everybody drink.
So,
they're looking for the next generation.
And when I do,
with my style,
with my master,
there's always a physical test.
It's two,
three hours long,
lots of different things.
but there's always a written test as well
we have to know knowledge
and the history of our art
and the history of our lineage
and things like that
and all of our forms have names
and there's tons of knowledge
I'm not going to square brother
no he's asking you too
you don't get these calls
yeah Jake you scrunching your face
there shows you did not been through this
written test what the hell
well you think this is 10th grade
this is war it's just geometry
I flunk that
I'll tell you what they didn't do it
world war one when they were gonna
fucking in the middle going, I got to take a written test.
No, this is Jiu-Jitsu.
This is war.
I'm drinking from a stranger's hose and loves filas because I lock myself out of my car.
Please, please.
So, Will, what is this?
I got spaghetti sauce on my white belt.
This is dog-e-dog.
Yeah.
So, Will, what is the question?
Yep, yep.
What season do you think you're in, Will?
What season are you in?
Because I'm thinking it's the middle of autumn for you.
And you're at this spiritual cross-refer.
roads and also part of it you might have this resistance because you're that close to being
a master and sometimes when you get really close to finishing something that's when the resistance
really kicks in you know what i mean wow eric it's a pleasure to meet you but damn
well yeah i've been there i've been there i took the class when have you been close to being a
master uh a character he's asked me a couple times though it's it's definitely the should i retire
or maybe it's not opening my school tomorrow,
but like, do I need to bear this responsibility?
Yes.
You're this close to being a master world.
You've got to do it.
Yeah.
Well, here's the real thing.
You've been doing this since you're 12 years old.
You're right at the finish line.
Don't fucking quit now.
You're about to be a master.
Now, after that, if you want to teach or not teach,
after becoming a master,
then take some time to decide what you want to.
do with it.
But maybe part of becoming a master's
truly learning what you want.
Yeah, but pushing through this.
Maybe part of being a master's taking that
break first to figure out
other things in life. And then you
truly know. That's interesting. A short
break. I will say this. I wouldn't do the break.
I don't even think I've told
you this, Jake. When I was a kid, I did
a lot of child acting. And I started
acting professionally. And then I got
offered a professional TV show
in Japan to teach
Japanese. And I was going to play a
basketball player, but every time I ate, I'd get real big, and the buttons would start popping
off my shirt.
What?
For real.
For real, buddy.
Phenomenal.
You are such a man of mystery.
I know.
I know, buddy.
And I acted professionally.
That's the Portland Civic Auditorium, the kids who get busted and see me act.
I was Jimmy Fargo and Taylor's fourth grade nothing.
And I was going to have to leave school a ton to shoot this professional show teaching kids
Japanese. And it was real money. And I went to my, and the more I thought about every time I
eat, my buttons pop off, I hate this. And I went to my parents and I said, I just don't want to do
this. I'd rather just go to school, play basketball. I don't want to act anymore. And I'm so
grateful to my parents because they said, you know what, don't. Turn the job down. Do what you
want to do. And later, my senior year in college, I did a play and caught the bug. And I realized,
I want to act, and that's what I want to do with my life.
And I did it on my own terms.
And I realized, because I took a break, this is what I truly love.
So I can uniquely say, if you take a break, that will give you a lot of answers, whether
this is the calling in your life or not.
Because basically right now, you're wrapped into something that you chose or maybe
nudged to by a parent at age seven, so it doesn't totally feel like your own thing.
So to take just a little bit of a break, either you realize that.
I don't love this.
I had a great run.
Or it gives you a hell of a lot of an insight as a master,
which I think you'll eventually end up doing.
But the break will be crucial for this whole process.
It's like the boo-
Really kind of clear the carburetor.
Yeah, clear the carburetor figure out.
And Jake is right.
You're right there.
Why stop now?
But I think then you're on a path that you're unsure of pushing forward
and you're going to doubt it every day.
If you actually take a break and it might disappoint
the other masters around you and stuff like that,
you're truly going to know.
Maybe it's a short break.
Maybe it's, you know,
maybe it's six weeks of doing nothing,
eating a bunch of Cheetos,
watching who's the boss,
and you're like, this ain't it.
But you will know if this is truly your path or not.
Can you imagine how successful Eric would be right now
if he took that show in Japan?
And didn't take a break and ate some Cheetos
and watched who's the boss?
You imagine this fucking kid in Japan.
He'd be an international star right now.
He would be the most successful guy we've ever met.
He would be internationally a pushback then.
My pushback is, is you're right there.
Put your head down and finish what you started.
When you become a master, you do not have to open up a school or do anything.
You could just be a quiet master who moved away.
But when people is an old man, when you look back to your taekwondo journey that started at 7.
you finished what you started.
You became a master at something,
and it was hard as hell,
and at the end of the marathon, your knees hurt,
and you didn't know if you wanted to keep running,
but you're at mile 21, just finish the race.
And once you get that master, and you're at that set,
you don't have to become a grandmaster.
That's another thing.
But put your head down and grind a little bit
and finish what you started.
Will, who inspires you,
in the world of Taekwondo.
Is there someone who you look to, aside from Jake, obviously?
He's master.
Oh, yeah.
Definitely, Jake.
I moved away.
I wish I could blame somebody else, but it was me.
It all started because of my dad, my brother.
You know, they were the folks that kind of got me going and interested in it as a kid.
My dad did it in the 60s, 70s, and, you know, it was those old stories that were practically
myths of people breaking stuff and kicking people on.
the cars and all that junk. But, you know, in recent years, the real big thing has been,
I took on a friend, you know, in COVID, everybody had their pods, right? And so a buddy was like
just close with us and hanging all the time. And he's like, oh, I've always loved the UD Tech
window. I was like, oh, we got nothing else to do. I'll teach you. And that's been one of my
biggest motivations in recent years. But for the last year or so, our schedules have been aligned.
And I was teaching him for free. I always told him with like, hey, I'll do this.
I love this.
I want to give this story to you.
I want to give this ability to you.
I want to teach you, train you.
But you have to come to me.
Like, I'm doing this for free.
And I want this to be available to you, but you've got to make the time available.
You've got to show up.
And we haven't been able to connect in a minute.
So that's like part of where, like, literally my last line and my email in was like, guys, do I need some gas in the tank?
Or do I park the car?
Because.
Right.
Well, here's a question.
I am missing that.
What do you need to do to get the next degree on that pipeline?
about?
At least six years
of training.
Oh, six more years?
Yeah, I tested it for my sixth degree last year,
so it would be 2030 before I'd be eligible.
Oh, that changes my pitch.
That's a long...
You know who's a Taekwondo master?
That's a long time.
That's a long time.
A lot of people don't know as a Taekwondo master.
Willie Nelson.
As much as I want to say,
the Canary and the Coal Mine
for smoking weed over booze,
why he's still going age 92.
Willie does taekwondo, and he still does it.
And that's really one of his keys as much as the medical weed.
So what do you think in terms of this caller?
Is that just a random fact, yeah?
It's an important random fact.
But what does that have to do with Will, in your opinion?
Should he keep going because of Willie Nelson?
No, I think the six years changes thing, and I even saw you, Jake,
and I love that, that you're adaptable and open.
It's a lot.
I thought it was going to be a year.
What's wrong with the six-week break for the kid?
Well, I mean, he's had breaks.
But, like, a real break to, like, truly kind of walk away for a second to figure out if this is his life's calling.
I'll tell you why.
And Will, you tell me if I'm wrong on this.
If you step away, and we're not talking about a six-week break, you've had little breaks.
You're talking about stepping away from the taekwondo mindset.
If you step too far away, and Eric, we've talked about this about acting and L.A. and pushing.
when you step away from the game,
the game doesn't stop.
So you step away from Taekwondo,
you might, when you step back,
you're not going to be where you're at right now.
You're going to be steps behind,
and all of a sudden you might never be able to catch up again.
And that might be fine.
But I feel like when people step away from the game
that they've always loved,
there's a lot of justification,
but they miss the game.
They do, but sometimes it's good to have that moment away
to let your brain do what you're talking about your body doing.
I mean, there are a number of stories,
even of people in our business who take a break,
fuck off for a minute, come back, refocused, re-energized.
But a lot of these people, it's fake taking a break.
It'll be like Matthew McConaughey going like, man,
I just didn't want to act anymore.
Look, there's pose a break, buddy.
But there's also Chappelle.
He walked away from $75 million.
But Chappelle's a perfect example.
When he came back, it was sold out.
And he came back to $75 million more dollars.
That's exactly.
So my thing with Will is if Will actually steps away,
Taekwondo might fade.
It's scary.
Because right now it's fading.
He's pushing to get people he can,
he's kind of at a spot where he's like,
there's no one around me.
I moved away from my master.
I'm trying to get this buddy to do it with me,
but he's not.
It's fading.
Do I fight to keep this going, or do I let it go?
And my thought is, once you let it go, that shit's gone.
Do we need to find him a taekwondo buddy in Lancaster?
That's where I would push.
I mean, I do have some local connections.
Okay.
There is a local tool, and I'd be loved to reconnect.
I'd train with them for some years, but it was pre-COVID, so I would, like, commute that direction.
And it's okay.
Warner so it was easy with the commute and stuff to like stop through and I was teaching probably two three times a
class or two but that that master like I just don't have that connection right now
so you're in Lancashire Lancaster yeah yeah so what if we just do this if the next idea is a school
for the Amish I'm out no let's do this I don't hate it there's also when the student is ready
the master will appear stop it
That's the smartest thing I ever just said.
You've said it a bunch.
No, I said it the first time today.
You've said it about our training together.
Yeah, but it's there.
It's true.
I got a master for acting during the strike,
and this guy's helped me a ton,
and I was ready to the master up here.
Well, what if we left it up to the community for a little bit?
Yeah.
Ooh.
What if we, when this airs,
we say if there's anybody near the Lancaster, Pennsylvania area,
who's even interested in Tyquist,
that we've got somebody, if you go to him and train in your garage or in a park, whatever
you want, Will.
But if nobody is interested, you don't really have connections and your master's fading.
Then we slowly let it fade away, but let's see if fate can get involved here.
Because I think if you started teaching somebody, it would fire you up again.
But I don't think we actually.
quit right now.
I think we throw it out into the universe
and see if somebody in this community
is interested and see if
we can find you a little fucking karate
kid and build this thing up.
I think that's right.
Someone's a parent. They have a little
seven-year-old. They want to take that little kid
to Japan. They want him to eat on TV
and his buttons pop.
No, no, no. Now you are. Maybe put that kid,
maybe put that kid in a
taekwondo class. Eric, it is the buttons popping.
This is why I never told you. This is why I never should have
told you today I was being vulnerable.
What did I do wrong?
Brought up the buttons popping off.
But, Eric, it is the most delicious detail
of the whole thing that you would eat and your buttons
would pop up. I know. That's why I didn't want to do it.
And you're teaching English in Japan?
It was crazy.
You know my thing with Japan.
I love Japan.
Me too.
I would take that job now.
I should have done it.
Yeah.
I'd be huge right now.
I would have been available on a minutes notice to do a podcast or a Monday afternoon.
Literally, what are you doing, Eric?
I'm here.
If I took that job, Will.
If I took that job, Will, man, I'd be sweating off money.
You would be right now in a hot tub in Tokyo.
Oh, God.
But will, let me get ready to get a self-date to play another killer.
Are you kidding?
I'd be running shit.
Will, the times are different.
You have, we have access to a community.
Let's see what happens.
Let's see what rolls in.
Maybe there's a way to feel inspired from something like that.
But, again, the beauty is, while you do have to make a decision,
you don't have to make it in the next 10 days.
So let's give it a minute right away.
So let's give it a minute and see what happens.
No, we're not saying quit, but we're just saying pause.
So, well, what do you think you're going to do?
I like this idea of maybe the bat signal or something
and getting some attention to seeing what's available
because, you know, I actually had a knee injury
a few years back, and one of my primary motivators for rehabbing that, working on that,
was taekwondo and being able to do the kicks and all the spins and the jumps and stuff.
Jake, those are moves that, like, someone is really good does.
Go ahead.
Keep going, Will.
I put the work in, right?
I've got everything, I've got everything I need to do it except the school, you know, and people.
And I don't really want to run a school necessarily.
I have a lot of trouble and, like, philosophical issues with, like, paying for,
so my dream is, you know, to retire and have a school that's got free tuition, right?
But I've got, you know, 20, 30 more years of a career before I can be thinking about that
retirement aspect.
So maybe we see if there's anybody out there that you want to just teach as your love
letter to taekwondo, knowing at a certain point, you might have a school, but I'll tell you
what would be better about that free school
is if it was taught by a master.
It's true.
It's not wrong.
And it might take you six years of training
while teaching people in the community.
This is a big future goal,
which would be a great retirement.
But what I wouldn't love is from that free school
is he was almost a master,
but then he quit.
And what did you pitch,
Eric, eat Doritos and watch TV or watch who's the boss?
Just to figure out who you are,
just to see if you miss it or not.
I think this is right.
I think let's see.
And just we'll be wary if you get an email from someone named Make Monson
or something like that from HelpfulPod at gmail.com saying he's local.
And Eddie shows up.
Do I want to do zooms?
Yes.
Willing to teach my moves too.
Yeah.
Also what we're looking for.
Elvis Presley ended up being a fifth degree black belt.
And he did another level of the bell every time he gave his master a car.
here you go Kangree
Google Kangry this is all
very I just got you
New Lincoln Continental
it's a funny coincidence
you're now a fourth degree black belt
With that in mind Will
what kind of car you like
Make wants to know
This is the beginning of the end
In five weeks Jake's going to be a black belt
Or hold it over all of heads
Will don't enable this
I'm begging you Will
I'm trying to keep this at bay so much
Please
We are going to send the bat signal out
anybody what big cities are near you will you got Philadelphia is 70 miles away okay so you're
right near Philly in here I love Philly yeah Philly's awesome where don't you love I'm not saying it
why because it alienates people you won't be honest no no it sounds like he's against aliens
I found a I love most everywhere I found a couple cities recently I did not fall in love with
Uh-uh, uh-uh.
Nope, not doing it.
You won't be the real you?
Nope.
But Jake, what if he gets a job offer to go teach English in one of those cities?
Because he's an actor.
He's not going to do that.
He's going to play.
No, but if I get an offer to act, Will, you nailed it.
See, Will, you know what that is right there?
Master Energy.
Well, thank you for the talk.
And just drew it away from him trying to hear you down.
He had me locked down like a district attorney.
Goodbye.
We'll reach out, Will.
Love you, awesome.
Thank you, guys.
Thank you, my advice.
The teachers were ready, the master, it appeared today, Will, and it was you.
Bye.
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