We're Here to Help - 271: Iowa Nachos & Off To Work! (with Mary Steenburgen)

Episode Date: March 16, 2026

Gareth and Jake develop a brand-new fad diet. Then, they confront a roommate with sticky fingers. Plus, Mary Steenburgen drops by the show for some tough love and a follow-up to Ep 259 "Crochet Court!"Want to call in? Email your question to [e-mail]: https://patreon.com/heretohelppodMERCH: heretohelppod.comINSTAGRAM: @HereToHelpPodIf you’re enjoying the show, make sure to rate We’re Here to Help 5-Stars on Apple Podcasts.Advertise on We’re Here to Help via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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I think all kids were. Oh, my God. The Saturday morning ritual of... This is right. It meant something big. And it's gone. Gone. It is.

I don't know, man. It's very... We're old men, but that's Saturday morning nostalgia. Yes, but when you say it's gone, speaking of it. So one of the reasons I took this NBC pilot... Which, by the way, all over the trades. All over the trades. I mean, all over like one trade in my social media.

No, I saw a couple of things. Just kidding. But that's the problem with right now. It's all over the trades that you and I see because we're connected to each other. I know. I know. So I'm like, your stuff is all over my... You are my algorithm.

You're my algorithm. Jake is the biggest actor in the world. I was like, wow. My buddy Bill Bungerath used to call it J-Town, where he's like, I put your name in once, and now all of a sudden I'm constantly fucking J-Town with these things. Well, very quickly, before you get into it, I made a joke, like, to a buddy of mine about, I keep getting advertisements for shirts that, like, cover up your fat. And so, and it's like, my algorithm on YouTube is very, like, depressing at this point.

But I was talking about it. And now, because I was like, I keep getting these your two fat wear different shirts ads. And now my algorithm is fully like, hey, fat fuck. I know you're fat. Same, dude. And you'd make one joke. or even a half comment that you're like, I don't even care, but this is it,

then they also start marketing to you where it seems like they're talking, and I'm like, don't market it like this. You guys are close, but it's offensive how you're doing it. I'm not like you guys. You know what? I always think that when you order something, and then they're just like, spam him.

I'm like, I'm out. I bought your product. I'll tell you what else I do that with, politicians. Oh, completely. Completely. I, you know, I'm happy to donate to the thing. I'm like, I'm in. When you write me so, Jake, I knew.

I literally will go, not only that, but now I hate your guts. Stop texting me. You know, the, when you get a text from a number you don't know and you go, who could this be? And that it's just like, Gareth, it's Bernie Sanders. Democracy is going to die this evening. I'm like, Bernie, get out. Bernie, we're friends. We had a nice thing for a little while.

It's over. It's over. I agree with this. Leave me alone. It really pisses me off. Yeah. You know what my brother did to me as a prank, which he will not admit, but one day he will admit?

Because he's claiming it's not true, but I get a bunch of stuff right now from politicians that say like, hey, Dan, I think he donated, but put my phone number. That's crazy to do. Because what's how, like, I'll literally get a bunch of tents because we'll be like, hey, Dan, I'm like a third seat congressman in Wichita.

And I'm like, why am I getting the you know me I love hunting when I'm like huh and then I reached out to him and I go Dan are you pranking me and he goes like I would never but I'm like well you also did used to

I told you when he used to when I'd move into a new place get really graphic oh yeah he'd send you yep but like you know big heavy blanks yeah holes magazine

disgusting like where you're like Jesus Christ really graphic. And so I was living with Aaron, my wife. We've moved into our first place together. And all of a sudden, with my full name on it and the address, the mailman's dropping them off in those little plastic things that I had to be like, hey man, just so you know, my brother does pranks. And the guy's like, all good. He's like, all good, man. Everyone's brother's pranking him with those. I'm like, but I swear on my life. Yeah, yeah, no, of course. You don't like it. Your brother's pranking you. No, I don't even open it is what I'm saying. I throw him right out.

Of course not. Yeah, as you should, man. Hey, either. Either way. That's literally what happened to me for years. You know who, the Dan Levy, our friend who's a stand-up, not from Schitt's Creek, our other friend, nice mug. He played some pranks on me back in the day that were insane. And one of them was he put my number on Craigs. This is insane.

Please. He put my number on Craigslist and he said, I'm auditioning people for a new hot political show. In one minute, leave me a voice. voicemail with your political take. And he didn't tell me. And so I just would be ignoring calls and it would be people just like, you know, I think the thing about Ron Paul, look, Ron Paul is like Lord of the Rent and I'd go, what? I'd be like, what?

And then it was like 10 days later, he's like, have you been getting some weird voicemails? That is a great prank. He got me on a bunch of them. I did something similar to Michael Angerano, but it wasn't as thought out as that. we were doing something where we were talking shit years ago and I think we did it on social media something happened and so I just posted on

Instagram or Twitter whatever it was at the time and I gave his email and I said hey everybody it's his birthday we just wish him a happy birthday and he emailed me back and he was like hey bro not funny and then sent a screen grab in there was hundreds of emails and I was like I mean it is funny

but it's also not like It's an asshole move, but that damn... Well, that is long-term... It's so funny. There's some long-term damage there. Yeah. Because that is like, I got to change my email. And then you've got to email everybody.

You have a new email. Yeah. Which is... Berg did that. Berg went from whatever his old one used to be. To now he's got that crazy ass, like... Yeah. Like, he's got a crazy email now.

And he used to be Bergmaster, like, 5,000. Yes. And then that kind of... got blown up and then so now he's like got the weirdest one where I'm always like what and I'll like email Bergmaster 5,000 sometimes and he'll just go hey yeah that sounds good also can you make sure to email this one and I'm like seems like this one's still a little active to be honest by the way our boy Berg I don't know if you've talked to him lately crushing he's blowing up he's great he's getting you're talking about the TV work yeah

And there's some more stuff. Is that right? Yes, that's right. I'm not going to say anything about it. But to this audience, and look, I don't like to take credit. I do. Yeah. I'm not a bragger.

You are. And I give you the same credit. You're not a bragger. You are. You don't like to take credit. You do. I have less. I make a bigger deal about it.

Who cares? It doesn't matter what you have. It matters how much you brag. And it's a lot. Yeah, fuck yeah, because braggins the best. So Burke's career really seemed to have a bump after something that this community did. That's a little thing called the calendar, Gareth. Now, is that accurate?

Probably not. Is that the spin job two car salesmen are going to do for our dealership? I don't think so, but you've got to be bad cop. Let's do this. Let's do a little IMDB. There was, he's always working. Steve Berg is an unthinkably funny. actor. He's always

grained. But he had a little dip, yeah. Well, let me, I'll do it. Okay. Mike's hard lemonade, nothing. We're here to help. Tons of stuff. Not accurate. Okay. But I'll sign on the dotted line if you want to. I'm ready. I'm ready. We're in the office.

Let's get us in this Corsica. We blew them up, baby. We get 30%. Everybody, enjoy the show. We got a fun one today. Uh, hello. Hi. Hi. How are you?

Good, how are you? Good, thanks. Pretty serious tone so far. Can we get your name, please? Yeah, it's Maria. There it is. I am Maria. Where are you calling from, Maria?

I'm calling from Iowa. Beautiful. Whereabouts? Cedar Rapids. Fuck, yeah. I've been to Cedar Rapids a lot, too. Yeah. I played a real weird banquet hall in Cedar Rapids

about a year and a half ago. I sure you did. I was there. Oh. Maria, how was the show? Super weird. It was good. Good.

Yeah. Maria, what's up? All right. So I sometimes work for my parents' addict because I work from home. I have been ever since the pandemic. And so I'm with my parents. And my mom, I didn't request this, decides to make me launch sometimes. So she comes upstairs while I'm on my meeting.

Sorry. There is a question that we didn't ask that we sometimes. How old are you, Maria? I think this is a- I'm 39. I'm 39. That's a helpful. Okay.

That helps actually a lot. That's important. Okay. 100. Yeah, sorry. No, that's not your fault. Go ahead. Yes.

So, yeah, she decided to take upon herself to make me these lunches. And she'll enter at my Zoom meetings by coming upstairs in the attic. And my mom's not known for wearing undergarments either. So it's really scary to see, like, what she'll present herself with. but she comes upstairs with these I call them kind of stoner bowls it's like a stoner paradise of like hot dogs

Doritos but the kitchen sink and she wants me to eat them for you know she's very proud of herself but I can't my mom's amazing she's I have two questions right off the bed

what are the outer garments what's the outer garments? What's the outer garment? A big shirt Yeah, I'm picturing like a nightgown. It's just a big-ass shirt. Well, it's usually like she worked at the hostel for 40 years, so it's cut off scrubs. That's cool. So it's like, it's oversized cut-off scrubs.

Not cool. I kind of like mom. What's mom's first name, Mario? Yeah, mom's a vibe. I call her share bear. Share bear for sure. I could definitely chill with share bear in those fucking goofy ass snacks. And trust me, keep them away from your mom.

I've learned that the hard way. Maria, now, are you, it's seriously like a hot dog with Doritos and cheese? We've got some pictures whenever you guys want to see. Yeah, let's see, let's see. I don't think we need to edge this one. Mm. Gareth, what are we looking at here? We're looking at the salad of the day, which I'm praying.

Those aren't grapes, but it looks like lettuce. Okay. Those are grapes? It looks like lettuce. I thought those were the tips of a hot dog. Oh, well, okay, you're right. Thank God it's grapes, I guess. Lettuce, grapes, a Mexican blend of cheeses, chicken, and some kind of sauce, some kind of whitey sauce.

And then with a doctor pee in the back, those are the hot dogs. Shit, this is bad. This one's bad. Those are nachos, baby. Technically. we've got Yeah we've got some nachos Again some cheese

Some I don't know like maybe fresco cheese as well And hot dogs and cut up hot dogs I mean it really is College high shit You know what that reminds me of a little bit of how Chapsui was created Just whatever the fuck's in the fridge Yeah just trash place

Sherry's just going like this Ah you know what Let me grab a little bit of this A little bit of that Throwed in the microwave and boom. Hot dogs as a choice is wild. Yeah, those are gross. They are gross.

And so we'll keep going, but I'm assuming the issue is that your coworkers are seeing this versus you're not wanting this. So, yeah, I mean, that is the issue. But my real, like, my question is, though, like, how do I tell my mom to stop making these stoner bowls about hurting her feelings? Like, she thinks she's being mom of the ear. Everything with a food pyramid in that bowl. I can't choke it down. What pyramid? Yeah, honestly.

I don't. She says there's a protein in there and fruit. She's very proud of her. So Maria, let's do this. I'm going to put you on this spot just because I think it's going to help a little bit or at least help me. This is a hell of a setup.

It's very clear. But what is the specific question we could try to help you with today? Yes, I want to let my mom down nicely and be like, please stop making me these bowls. But I'm afraid of hurting her feeling. So, you know, yeah. Yeah, like a dialogue or script I could deliver to her.

Because right now it's really hard for me not to just be like, Sherry, what the F? Not making you bold. Yeah, I get it. I'm going to die. You took away my first pitch. Same. I literally read down, Sherry, what the fuck?

I'm going to die here, honey. You want to go back to the hospital and take care of my body? I'm 39. I got two kids. I'm working out of an attic. Thank God you got scrubs on. I'm going to need them. Yeah.

Pull me out by my ankles, babe. My first pitch was going to be a way to just hide it from the coworkers. That's not, no, but she's, yeah. All right, so Murray, this makes sense. So really a little bit of backstory as we're just trying to get a little sense of this. How long have you been back living with mom? Are the kids living with you too? What's going on?

No, so like I live two miles down the road. It's just that I don't have space in my house for an office. Oh, okay. I go to my parents' house. Just to work. Because they have like an old school addict. Yeah, it's just work. But she tries to have my kids eat it too when they come over there.

I get that. But by the way, we can't touch that. I learned the hard way. Whatever a grandma wants to do with the grandkids, get out of that. Let that insane dynamic work together. But that really helps that you're only there from 9 to 5. Mm-hmm, exactly. First pitch, and we're going to get better than this.

Show up with a bag lunch, old school brown bag. I don't hate it. Mom, go, Sherry, she goes, how you doing, babe? I'm just fucking boiling your hot dogs for lunch. She go, my goddamn husband is starting to make me bag lunches. I got to eat this. Why? For my 40th birthday, he wants me to get blood work done.

What? I got it. Mom, you're not going to believe this stuff I'm eating. and celery and vegetables, no hot dogs and gross cheeses. Just healthy stuff, Mom. You're not going to believe it. I'm in hell. But I can't have any snacks I made a promise.

I can't eat Mexican cheese and hot dogs for a little while. I can't eat Iowa nachos. Those are called Iowa nachos. Those are. Yeah, that is, it is offensive. I lived in Iowa for two years. I went to University of Iowa. And while I was in college, that, no way.

Yeah, man. You ever go to George's Bar? You ever go to the dead one? Absolutely, absolutely. Absolutely. I look down the street from it. Me too. What's up, neighbor?

So the first pitch is you're 39 years old, on your 40th birthday, you are making some changes. And so you and your husband are doing bag lunches. Here's another thing if you don't want to do the age thing. You go, Mom, we're doing a thing in our house where we're all doing bag lunches together. and this is something Eve Jay used to make us do where we would have to make bag lunches, our lunches like four months in advance and store them in the freezer.

So you just make a ton of lunches for the kids and you got them too and you just show your mom there when you get there. You go like, share bear, fuck, I got the thing. Thanks for the Iowa nachos, but it's a pass. I like that. I definitely,

my first thought was a similar vibe, but I would probably go post doctor. And I would say you talk to the doctor, we could do a voicemail for you that you could play. You've got to kind of clean up your diet a little bit. So you're going to do something you could say you're doing keto where you have fasting windows. And so you're not eating 500 hot dogs. You're not eating for the time.

Fasting windows. So you're not eating when you're over there. That's a good idea. Because you're fasting. You apologize. My other thought was maybe you could say, you know, similarly, however we motivate the, I'm trying to watch what I eat. but you could and the only problem with this is you're putting too much on your plate

but you could bring her like a gross simple salad and be like that's what I've started to eat and maybe try to neutralize the we're feeding each other space by that motivating. You know what, we have different diets, let's just take care of it. We're both going crazy with getting each other's stuff. Yeah, what are we doing? I got two pitches for you, Maria.

Number one, fake choke on a hot dog and then go mom this fucking chunk got stuck i don't know what happened and she'll go what and you go i'm just going to eat my own applesauce kind of i don't know what happened and two rather than say keto and fasting which i think you were right on because your mother's older we could confuse her what if you say you're on the chimp diet and we create a fake diet which is like you know a fad that you saw on instagram where it's like all you eat is bananas green beans, no proteins, besides like beans, but you're like, it's crazy.

It's called the chimp diet. It's how to get a chimp body in six months. I don't know. It's so stupid. I'm just doing the chimp diet, so I can't eat tortillas. Why? Because chimpanzees in the wild don't have tortillas. Have you ever seen a fat chimp?

Yeah, it's only, and you go, she goes, what is this? You go, it's this like new fade that's coming out that, I don't know. It's insane. but it's all these supermodels are doing the chimp diet. So it's only eat what a chimp would eat in the wild because chim's the thing. It's foraging. But every once in a while a chimp could eat something different.

Yeah. But I'll tell you what a chimp can't get is Iowa nachos. And she will get so confused, she'll go, I don't even know what to make you. You go, mom, listen, it's easier if I just make my own thank you. and then if she brings it up, go like, oh, man, this is so tempting, but it's not on the chimp diet. I think, yeah, if you own it and be like, mom, I'm being a pain in the ass, I know,

but the chimp thing is so straightforward. And it's so, and also, Mom, it's so popular right now. And cheap. And but everybody's doing the, yeah, go ahead. My only problem is she's the typical, like, 70-year-old that's always on Facebook, so she's going to try to Google it because Facebook is, like. Yeah, but that's fine.

She won't be able to find it. Well, that's because you say, say you're searching the wrong places. Yeah. You can say it's a specific dietitian. You subscribe to an app that they have. She goes, I can't find you. I don't know what to tell you.

Like, yeah, it's everywhere. Your mom, you might not be that good at the internet old lady. Jake's right in the sense that I guarantee you if I had to have that conversation with either. My parents, I would be able to be like, yeah, I don't know what to tell you. What are you using? Google? Also, the internet's massive. You know that.

Yeah, it's huge. AI's ruined a lot. lot of these searches. I mean, you know. Mom, do you even understand? I would say that's probably my number one, too. I have one more for you. Okay.

Wolf down one of these hot dog plates from hell. And you fake a food poisoning. And you tell her, sorry, love you. I'm off the eating while I'm here. No offense. Because I can't risk it. I miss three medians on the can. Yep.

Yep. That's a really good one because she has a fear of that. Yeah, so it's, okay, so here's what we got. Food poisoning, chimp diet, yeah. Bag lunches, choke on a dog. What was the other one we had, Gareth? We had, uh,

fasting windows. Oh, the fasting window, but that also goes into chimp diet. I think that's chimp. You know, the truth is not to cut you up, but I think you could do food poisoning into chimp diet if you wanted, too. Yeah, I like that. Like how official you say that. You say that like it's not one of the dumbest things you've ever.

If you told me nine minutes ago, that would sound logical. I just said, you're crazy. Here's why we've done this too much is that we think we're 10% doctors. I'm going to go higher than that. You're going to this. All right, let's just do this. Let's do the wolf down the food, food poise and go to chimp diet. I think that's going to work.

So to get you out of the hot dog quagmire, what we're going to do is we're going to recommend a fake food poise. And we're going to go into the chip diet. You're getting to the point you're not even having fun with it. It's just you're actually giving a prescription. All right, here you go. Take that to right aid. They should fill that for you right away. Yeah, you'll be just fine.

All right, Maria, thanks so much for the call. We'll take another one. I schedule something on your way out, okay? Let's make sure we get this all fine. And she's writing down, chimp diet, wolf done. Yeah, and her mom's going to see her notebook and be like, what the fuck? I mean, if you saw my notebook, it says Maria, Iowa, 39, two kids, bag lunches, choke on Hot dog, a chimp diet, wolf dog plate, food poison.

These are the scribbles of a maniac. No, if people ever find our notebooks, they are going to be like, find them. And then at the top it says, share bear. I got share bear too. I was going to point out, I do have that in my notes. I was like, share bear just to come back. Maria, what do you think? What are you going to do here?

I think we got some winners. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I really agree. I think when you said food poisoning, that's spot on because this woman, like, if you were to come over and you were to have, like, let's say, like a pizza, but you left it on the counter for more than 10 minutes, it would already be in the garbage because she's terrified of food contamination. So if I told her I had food poisoning, she would lose her mind. Yeah. It's crazy for someone prepping those meals to be like, I really just, I'm terrified of food

poisoning. Have some hot dogs and cheese. Yeah, but that, I mean, so that works, Mirat. Let's start with the food poisoning. And from that, are you good to then bring some bag lunches and go like, I'm just eating really solid. And all you need is a few days where she doesn't make food. And then you broke the cycle. Then if she brings something up, you just go like this. Bob, it's okay, it's okay. And go, I love you, I love you, but I'm just worried about the food poisoning.

Or if you don't want her to Google Chimp Diet, which is also fair, you could go food poisoning into, I can't risk it because I missed some meetings. So I'm actually, I eat before work and I eat after. I'm actually not eating during work. If anything, I bring a bag of almonds that I always have. I just leave up there and I just snack when I need to. All right. I like that, too.

Because then it's like a physical thing that she can see that I'm eating. Otherwise, she'd be worried that I wasn't eating. And what she could do if she really wants is she could refill the almonds before you get there. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Because sometimes she just wants to do something. Yep. That doesn't help.

She might come in with no underpants on, though. So. Yeah, that's the... That's a two-fold. Yeah. But I got to say that's a second call because this will fix the food, I believe. But if then mom keeps popping up, then we got to do another thing where we fake a meeting. She comes in the background and you say, Mom, they saw your butt.

Yeah, no, that's happening. And I'm getting in trouble because, Mom, I was on a meeting. They saw your crack. And I'm in a world of trouble. They said that we did it on purpose. They're making it seem like. I'm a pervert. They did a meme.

We could make some memes for you. Oh, if we made a fake brand. Yeah, it's ours involved. Yeah, just a couple memes. They're passing these around. You know what we could do, Maria, which would be really fun, is if you staged a photo with her in the background that she didn't realize it was being staged on, and you took a photo of her behind you and you said, you made a fake meme and you go, Mom, you can't keep coming up there like this. Look at what happened. They're all sending this around work.

And it has like some, like, joke line on it. about like mom's nachos. Yeah. It's like, ew. And she's like, oh my God. And you're like, mom, this is like somebody, somebody sent me this at work. I don't know who started it.

You cannot come in the background with no underpants. I think that's fair. I think that is a fair follow-up, too. But that's next. If we get there. Yeah. If we get there. Yeah.

But the food-wise, I think you're going to be good to go. Yeah. Food poisoning and chimp diet. Yeah. Just normal shit. Are you as happy as we are with this one? No, I truly am. I think it will be good.

Share better, hopefully. We'll stop making those because I can't. Yeah. I might die if I keep getting them. If not, come in and talk to us, then we'll do a follow up on this. Yeah, we'll do a follow. We can figure this one out.

Schedule something on your way out right now. And we'll see in maybe a couple weeks. We'll see in at least three months. Three months or something like that. Okay, thank you. I don't know what's funny. Thanks, Maria. Thank you so much.

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I'm 25. Great. And where are you calling from, Heath? I'm calling from Brooklyn. Beautiful. In a stairwell, actually. You're in a Brooklyn stairwell, which is how I pretty much picture living in New York for the most part. Yeah, it's pretty similar.

Heath, you have roommates? I do have roommates. I have two. My call is actually about one of my roommates. Okay. So since we started living together, we went to college together. and we're like, we were kind of acquaintances,

not super close, I'd say, in college. So we started living together, and he kind of like, you know, we had that sort of male friendship where we weren't really, like, talking about a lot of stuff. Okay.

And kind of not from confrontational. And so one time he, like, I need to give a bit of backstory. But one time he took these, like, wooden spatulas that I had and used them for like a chef's costume for Halloween and then he lost these spatulas.

Then his other time he like has taken all the chairs from our apartment to like throw a party on the roof but like didn't say anything about it either. And I brought this up to my roommate, my other roommate kind of recently

and she mentioned that he had taken some of her things from the living room and just like moved them into his room as like decor. but like never mentioned anything about it and I saw that he like did the same thing for me and so the problem that I've kind of run into

is like how do I talk to this guy when we've gotten into this like weird non-confrontational space like both of us about like this weird sort of behavior where he's just not even telling me that he wants to use things of mine and we'll just like take them what should we call this guy

Should we just give him a name? Do you want to just give us a name, Heath? Yeah, yeah. We can call him Cody. Cody. Okay, so let me just try to get this clear because I'm a, I got a little bit thrown with the party on the roof and that stuff. So Cody just takes your stuff, like your furniture and doesn't ask for it, and you guys never talk about it. Yeah, like the spatulas he took for this costume, which maybe it was like last minute, but then he lost the spatula.

Yeah. And the only reason I found out is because he, like, had them on an Instagram post. So I was like, oh, shit, I forgot those were gone. Oh, understood. I got you. But he didn't replace it. Or bring it up. What else has he taken from yours?

He eventually did when I brought it up. Heath, what else has he taken that's yours? So he lost the spatula. He broke this chair. He broke another cup that I have. And then it was like a set of two. And now the other one is just sitting in his wrist. room and he's like storing his keys in it like it's a little cash all tray and so that's like

the most recent thing that I noticed where I was like uh I don't know how to approach this guy about it and what is like it's a pattern it is yeah what is his vibe kind of describe him and what is your guys's relationship you know I used to live in New York and I had the weirdest of all roommates I moved every nine months so you know It depends on the situation of how we could pitch on this. Why did you move so much? Just because? Cheap rent.

Okay. Just always looking for it. I was never on a lease. That tracks. Yeah. Paper trail. Yeah, man. So, Heath, can you kind of break down what's going on between you and Cody,

what the dynamic is, what's happening in that apartment, and also what part of Brooklyn? We live in Bushwick. I lived in Bushwick off the M train. Koskyo school, that is. It's an all right area. Yeah. Well, so we knew each other in college.

He's cool. We kind of like ended up living together because we both needed a roommate at the same time. So it just like worked out well. And I knew he was like a nice guy and that we would get along well. So he's pretty clean and like he's a good person to live with. so I do want to like maintain the like piece of the household because we yeah we are going to move somewhat soon this year and you're going to like I wanted to still be my you do well I man like like you said Jake like roommates can be so insane here that I'm like this guy's not

that crazy I understand heath you got a good good enough thing working don't mess with it don't roll the die exactly but he's like really I hardly see him because he's in his room all the time. I get this. That's all the good shit is. So, yeah, great roommate. You want to hear a really weird roommate situation really fast? And I'll do the whole story in under two minutes.

Yes. When I first moved to New York, I was in the old bedstay, which was really tough and scary. Yeah. And I moved in with this, like, goth girl who never talked, but she wore, like, all black, had the eyeliner. We were not social at all together. And I didn't have any,

furniture, I just had a couch I was sleeping on in my little writing table. But the bathroom, you had to go into my room to get to the bathroom and you had to go through my room to get to the kitchen. God, awful. Awful. One night I was up until about 7 and a.m. and I woke up at like eight because I had to go to. I was so tired. And I was taking a shower and I was bending over. And I stood up too fast. And when I stood up, I scratched my back on the faucet. And then because I was bleeding, I tried to get out of the bathroom. And because of the change of temperature, I think, Fainted. Oh.

Totally naked. About 180 lab LBs hitting the ground, thump. On my front, butt open to the air. Back bloody. Back bloody. I was out for probably 10 minutes real time. When I came to, I realized this roommate had walked in, turned off the shower, walked past me, got her coffee, and left for work.

Oh, my God. What the fuck? Didn't check on me? Just, she heard, Hach, Trump, walks in, turns the shower off, gets coffee, sees my big old body laid down the ground with a bloody back and goes like this.

Off to work. So, Cody is not a bad part. Stepping over you to turn the shower off shows some level of understanding. No, she didn't want to pay for the water. I know, but it's like, She is able to have concern, just not empathy. Oh, he's dead.

Hopefully somebody, the cops come, went on and gone. I don't have to see it. I got to get out of here. I got to go to that coffee shop I work out. I'm groggy. Crazy. Wow. I agree. We want to keep Cody.

Yeah. And I mean, everybody who's lived with multiple roommates empathizes to the idea of like, look, nobody's perfect. you live with someone, you find the thing. So this to me feels like we can do it with a nudge into a chat, an action maybe into a conversation. I don't know. Is there anything else you want to get out there, Heath? Yeah, the only other thing that I would say is, like,

what throws me the most about this is that he just won't mention anything. Yeah. I'm not even that mad about the things that have happened. Like, mistakes happen, I can forgive it. But, like, if you want to use my thing in your room, why are you just taking it? And then the times that I have confronted him about things, maybe he's like kind of rectified the situation,

but even the apologies are like, that kind of apology, like when a kid is playing and they want to get back to playing, so you're like, all right, it's fine. I get it. I get it. I know that exact apology. Like as you're in the middle of still explaining, they're like, all right, cool, got it.

And you're like, let me get this out there. Yeah, a forced apology. Yeah, sorry. Yeah. Anyway, sorry. Sorry if I pissed you off. Sorry, I had such a great chef outfit. See around town.

Sorry, you got sensitive that I enrolled, but... Sorry. Okay, so this is an interesting one, Heath. The specific question is, how do we confront Cody in a way that keeps it gentle, but lets him know, please stop stealing my stuff? Is that correct? Yeah, or just, like, ask. Yes.

So here's what you're just, like, ask. but I would maybe do. I'm going to go a mile to walk a block. I'm similar. Go ahead. I would say, hey man, I might have to contact the landlord.

And he'll go, why? And you go, I think someone's been breaking in. This is pretty good already. And he goes, what do you mean? I go,

shit's been missing. My spatula. Chairs. Chairs are getting, chairs are getting broke. And no one's talking to me. So like, and you go like,

and I know you, Cody, you're not crazy. So if you broke my chair, you would tell me. And I didn't break it. And we're not throwing parties here. So I think somebody's coming in and doing this stuff. And you start mentioning this stuff that has happened and go, before I contact him, is there anything that's been really strange for you or that you're missing?

And then go, because what I might end up doing if this landlord doesn't help, is setting up cameras. Because I'm getting really spooked me. And we should probably all pitch in. yes but this idea where he starts going like he wants to set up cameras in the common space and you go I don't want to man but like things are happening that aren't explained

I like that that's kind of a that's a way to force the confession I've got I'll get I think that's pretty good honestly and I do think if you say cameras and you're like we should all pitch in because this is fucking crazy I want evidence that then has a financial hook that probably isn't great.

He's not going to be interested in. Here's one. This isn't flushed out fully, but something where you're like, can I get a, can you say to both your roommates, hey, I'm thinking of, I mean, again, I'm not finished here. I'm thinking

of throwing like a Halloween party next year. Or Halloween in July. Can you guys get me a picture of your costumes last year so I can make like a little Evite for it? And then when you see the picture of him in the chef costume, you go, are those my spatulas? I was looking for those.

And that prompts you into the conversation. That's interesting. My other pitch is take two of his pillows off his bed and just start putting them in your room and using them. So I was going to go there, Gareth. I was going to go, I wrote down, start stealing from him so that there is a phantom thief. Well, then it goes. I do feel like something with like the phantom thief feels more relevant. And I'm only saying that because with the other two pitches,

the problem is that he knows that I know about some of it. Like the tears I confronted him about the spatula as I confronted him about. But like, especially taken from the living room, it's like we've just never discussed. Okay. So then here's what you've got to do. Start stealing his stuff. And he's at first going to go like, that's son of a bitch. and then he might retaliate and steal more of your stuff,

but then you need to steal more of his stuff. And what you're hoping for is essentially the Cold War. I was just going to say, it's an arms race. Yeah. Because what you want to have happened is without talking about it, he goes, that's son of a bitch is crazy. He'll bomb my whole country. And you go, that's son of a bitch is crazy.

And you both go, okay, nobody steals anything. Something's missing from you? Something's missing from him. You know what the nuke is? The nuke is when you start eating someone else's food. If you start, like, eating his food and using his food, that's when you're just kind of going, well, I just don't know what the line is here.

And bathroom products. Yeah, leave the shower gel open. Yeah. You know. But I think, yeah, I would just send that message, and he'll probably say something. And that's when you get to say, well, yeah, you took my spatula's first chef outfit.

And you weren't stopping. What do you think about the Cold War idea? I don't hate it. I think, do you guys think I start stealing, stuff from like his room because so far he hasn't gone into my room and that's like a line I don't want to treat. No. No. No. You start with it. You do

exactly what he's done. So he stole your spatula. Figure out what he uses in the kitchen a lot. If he's got a thing where if he's like he's a pasta guy, right? Get the strainer. Throw in the dumpster. Or you know what's always bad is like

you'd have like a bowl that's yours that you love and then the roommate is coffee mug. Yeah. So whatever he has a real affinity for, start using that. Don't use, Gareth. Throw? Make it disappear. Okay.

All right. Yeah, make it disappear. Because then he goes, have you seen my muggy go like this? Yeah, I brought it to a party and it broke. Or do you have a, does he have a mug or a bowl that he loves? Most of the, like, stuff in our kitchen is mine.

Okay. That I think would matter like that. But I feel like he does have, like, those like blender bottles that he uses to go to the gym and like shake up a protein shake. Yes. And I could just like hide that somewhere.

Hide that. Or you know you could do? Hide the tops. Hiding the tops is great. Or the little shaker guy in there. Yeah. It's the whole component. So that he goes like,

I can't use this. And you go, I hear you. I can't use my spatula because you are a goddamn chef. How about? Look, what we're pitching is hard. And after a couple of

a couple weeks, why don't you put one of those protein shakers in the kitchen with pencils and pens or something like that? Like, you're just like, yeah, it's a utility now. Go ahead, though, Jay. Yeah, that's interesting. So, Heath, what are you thinking? I kind of like that idea. What if I also, like, I take the things and I just make them disappear for like a month

at a time? I love this. Yes. And then they appear, like, the top of the thing just appears, like, literally on his bed. like the horse head. Yes. And he just goes.

Once he's finally lost hope for it ever returning. Yeah, once he buys a new one, you bring the old one back and then you hide something from the new one. So that he goes to you one day, and this is what we're hoping for, Heath. He goes, hey man, could you stop stealing my shit? And you go, yeah, could you stop stealing my shit? And he goes, yeah, fine.

And you go, how about this? Let's not steal each other's shit. That's what I was going to ask. So I think that's better. Making it so you're like, yeah, I've been trying to sort of show you what it feels like to not have control of your stuff. Yeah, I like this.

I do too. Are you going to do it? I think I can do it. I don't think it's like too evil. No, look, it's not nice. But he's stealing from you. Yeah, he started it. I mean, you're just trying to kind of level it out.

Yeah. Well, hell, man, good luck. Let us know what happens. Go for it. Look, this one is kind of, it is what it is, man. It's like, you know, you don't want to do a big confrontation. We don't want to leave notes. You didn't, you, you don't want to do the, go to the landlord and say.

So what you were kind of driving us towards, what it seemed like you wanted was, just take a shit. So, yeah, man. Just take a shit. I think it's, we're validating. And I think, yeah, you go. for it. This is the right move. I mean, some action is better than...

It ain't going to feel good, though. No, what you could do. It might. Yeah, but take a shit and save it so you can give it back. But what you're trying to do is a little consequence. Yep. Yeah, we're already at that level, so

like just evening it out. I'm just retaliating now. Keith, you're calling a podcast about this. So it's time. It's gotten. It is time for action. Feel that. We see you take his protein shakers. He won't.

Maybe. But do that and let us know, okay? And maybe if you can, for our sake, take some pictures of the things you're taking, just so we can have a list when we do a follow-up and we can sort of see what's been going on here a little bit. Okay, I can do that. All right, buddy.

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And Mary, we did a press day about a week ago. Was that right? Yeah. And we started talking about the podcast, and we're going to have you on closer to the movie and do a full real episode. But at the press thing, you were getting mad at me about something. Yeah. I'm starting to listen to your podcast. I'm sorry I haven't listened to it before,

but I'm making up for the last time. And I listened to your one that I think you guys call, is it crafting court or crochet court, right? Yes, crochet court. And Gareth, I'm going to tell you, A lot of people got really mad at us on the comments on this one. Okay. Well, Mary, the call was, it was, just to remember all of us, it was, somebody called in with a crochet problem.

They wanted to charge their friend, right? Oh, right. Sarah, from Ottawa, horse-loving, coffee-loving. Oh, no. Yeah, agreed. Sarah, yeah. And then we decided what we were going to make it like a people's court. and go to court and have Steve Berg be the judge.

I know, but you're not explaining it very well. Okay, you explain that. Okay, she is into crafting, and she made a gift for a baby, and her friend saw this little, whatever it was, monkey or something like that, that she crocheted and said, I want one of those.

And so she said, well, would you want? She would want an elephant. So for her friend, she starts doing this elephant, but they talked about it being kind of big. And she got like a third of the way through with it. And it was, I can't believe you guys don't remember

it. Anyway, we've done a lot of these calls. I'm starting to remember. Yeah. Okay. So then it was, it was $70 and she had only just started. So then she started doing the math and realizing this was going to be really,

expensive and what should she do and how should she tell her friend and this person like when you asked her to describe her worst trait okay and her worst trait was that she was overly confident about directions okay so this is a really nice person okay by the way you're like Right. That is a very great worst trait. Yeah, it's like an angel. That is an angel. That is a very funny take, Mary. I didn't think of that.

I know you didn't think about it. And here's the other thing. Before you guys started, pushed it into a court and calling her friends and, like, scaring her friend to death about suddenly being on the radio. You instantly made her friend be on the radio. She had a meeting in like six minutes. And you go, okay, we have five minutes. Let's do it now.

And this woman had no clue what was happening to her. You're right. And I mean, all this was just so wrong. And the other thing I realized about it was right before you took the call from her, you and Gareth were, you guys were talking about. fights you'd been in. Like how many times you either beat someone up or got beaten up, mostly got beaten up.

This is embarrassing to hear all this marriage. It feels like we're being taken to court and just absolutely murdered. You are. All right. So then you're like surging with testosterone. You take the call. And you take the call. And you immediately make it this fight.

and you assign yourself to be her lawyer's and you call it prochet court. And these are like two Canadian friends who proche and talk about it. Oh, and the other thing you did, and this is probably what made people really mad because you couldn't stop talking about how ugly it was. Oh, no.

You especially care of us. You're like, that is so ugly. This is humiliating. Oh, God. Right. Just coming up of a fight gab is not good. This is called toxic masculinity. This is what that's called.

It was. It was so toxic. And then what happened, Mary? Well, I don't know what ultimately happened because... We don't either. We haven't had a follow-up with them yet. We should have Mary on for the follow-up. I didn't know if I'd miss the follow-up.

Yes. I just hope you didn't destroy a friendship because you took it straight from... Right. just like the second, her friend, by the way, you didn't use her name. They bleeped her name. Yeah. Pretty sure because she was terrified of you guys. Right.

And you're like toxic masculinity. So can I read what, and now it goes back to it, Stevie B. Gareth, it's the same comment that maybe Stevie B. was right. Don't. So this all started, Mary, where, you know, We're out here. We're trying our best. We're making these.

We do a bunch of calls in a day, and sometimes we go the wrong direction. It happens. We're trying our best. But can I read to you guys the response that we got really our first, like, very, not our first, but our most angry take on what we've been doing that got a lot of people agreeing. We got a lot of emails about this. And so when Mary, you brought it up to me at the Apple Day about your frustration,

I figured we might as well have you on to voice this. because I think there's a lot of people who agree with you. But that is hot take ever since the butthole waxing episode. Gareth, you want to tell Mary what that was really fast? I mean, I'd really rather not. Go ahead, sir. Okay. Well, Mary, I'm going to do this as quickly as possible.

Why are you looking at me directly? I just don't know where my camera is in relation to yours. It's nothing to do with. Go ahead. Okay, so a gentleman called in. He'd been going to the steam room. When he'd been getting up out of the steam room, He'd noticed that the towel had been stained a little bit.

We tried to figure out what was going on. By the way, we got a lot of heat because never at any point did we say go to a doctor. Anyway, our pitch was, wax your butt, get all the hair out of there, and maybe that'll clean it up. Now, let me point out that our pitch did work. I, as a move of solidarity, agreed to also get my back wax. I got my front. I got my back wax. So this person is citing this as maybe our Jump the Shark moment where I got my butt waxed, he got his butt waxed.

And so when he references that, that's what he's talking about. Okay, so hot take, ever since the butthole waxing episode, it seems like Jake and Gareth are getting away from helping people and focusing more on marketing people's problems for the show's benefit. I understand why, because it's hilarious, but I think they need to make sure they are focusing on helping people more than helping the show. The whole idea of getting advice at a bar is because you don't know that person.

It's supposed to be, here's my advice, as an independent third part. And somebody said, I totally agree. She called in to have them help with this illusion, but it felt like involving the third party ready and negates the premise. So Mary has another voice of disappointment in the job we have done. How do you have? This is tough. Which is a part of it, guys.

Look, it's a part of it. This is an organic fluid situation. What would be your pitch? And I'm going to put you on the spot now of how with this specific call, we could follow up with them and try to remedy the situation. Okay. Well, here's, I definitely would be able to answer this more accurately if it were a cross-stitch or a needle point problem because I've done both of those.

I've never crocheted anything. But when you knit something, you can undo it, you know, and still have the yarn. have the yarn. So my question would be, can she use what she has? Right. And make a small elephant that maybe costs

$100. Right. And then gift that or they can split it and each pay 50. And, But you, this is the other thing you did. You go, okay, you say to a friend, your friend is nervous about asking you for money for this.

So what would you be comfortable paying? Would you be comfortable paying $30,000? That's where you start. This is Jake. Because I was going, hi, Mary. That was Jay. But now, Mary, while that was happening, I sent a text to Natalie because I thought, Mary's my friend

she's putting us in a corner and you know as we work together and we're going to do another movie together and I hope we do a bunch of projects together we like to mess with each other and when we were doing press we were like you know what let's just mess with each other

and turn this into a fun thing so as you were giving advice I just texted can you try and get the OG caller on and she wrote she's in the waiting room just didn't want to interrupt the flow so let's bring her on Mary

and see what happens. Sarah. Is it Sarah? I remember her name. Okay. I didn't. Same. She's here now.

Okay. Hey, Sarah, really fast. This is kind of a follow-up, but it's a special follow-up. So we've got Mary Steenberg in here, the great actress. We star in the movie The Dink Together. It's going to come out this summer.

You got Gareth. But the reason we're doing this right now is Mary was very mad at how Gareth and I handled the call. Your call. And she's scolded me behind the scenes. And so we brought her on, but she is here now. Hi, Sarah.

Thank you so much for joining. Hi. So could you, Sarah, recap a little bit what the problem was and where you're at, and we're going to see if we can kind of, this isn't what I like to refer to as a little bit of a redo. Yeah. Okay. Oh, no. Okay.

Okay, so I had promised my best friend to crochet a large animal, and it ended up being more expensive than I was expecting. And I wanted, oh, I was asking you guys for some help on advice on how to deal with that and be in a nice way, seeing if my best friend could chip in some money for it. and then they pitched going to crochet court, which was awesome. But my best friend just was not interested in going to court if that makes sense. It makes sense. Mary would agree with that. She just did the hands up and did a C-face. Yeah.

So. A loaded gesture. Yeah, a very loaded proofs in the pudding. Crochet court was stupid. She only said it was great to be nice, but it was not great. And by the way, after hearing back from Mary, everything that transpired, it was like having someone read a transcript. Yeah, she's 100% right. Okay.

It wasn't great. So then Sarah, where are we at right now with the problem, with the best friend? We are here to help you. And now we've got Mary to make sure that Gareth and I, who are both wearing matching black hoodies. And the only reason I took my hat off is we weren't fully twisted. whining out talking about fights we've lost and bullying people. Like two bad advice to druids. So Sarah, take over for a second.

Where are we at now? Believe me, you're in better hands. We've got the great Mary Steenberg, and she's an absolute killer. She's really smart. We're in good shape. Catch us up. She can chip in. that helped out and she felt bad and then we just said oh this is a weird miscommunication on

my end and we were happy that you guys helped us reconnect over the best and I think we I think we just uh what do you say we ran a mile to walk a block so whatever you say but it's feeling good feeling good yeah like I think like she's gonna send me some money to chip in um I think we said like $100 as you suggested So you kind of broke the ice on the conversation. So I would say it was a win. Isn't that interesting? Hold on, Mary.

Hold on. Wait, was I'm making and I told you so face? But now I'm making one to you. Oh, because you did in the end help. Yes. Yes. And listen, this is why you're so good at your job and why we all listen to you. But I don't think it's helpful to get yourselves all jacked up on testosterone

before you take calls from women about crocheting. Okay. That's a very valid point. And Jake, let's be honest, we're both shocked that it worked. It's shocked. Shocked. After hearing it back, I mean, I'm absolutely, I had my apology ready to go. Me too.

I was about to each. I couldn't believe the ending of this, Sarah. We lost Sarah for a second, but quickly to. you, Mary. Yes. In hearing that, because I thought what we were going to do is bring you on and we were going to be in a worse situation, we were going to have to pitch new solutions. Now what are your thoughts?

Where are you at? Well, did you pitch $100 and share in it? Everything we pitched did not work, but it led them to talk about it and then they came up with a compromise that wasn't nice. I feel really good about them. I think we couldn't really hear her audio is a little funky. But I'd like to think that she was saying, thank you so much, Gareth and Jake.

We're still, she's still my best friend in the whole world, and I'm still her best friend. Yes, that's what I'm saying. And she's not mad at me that I just pushed two guys on her right as she was going into a meeting. to talk. A big meeting, an important meeting, and throw out things like $30,000. Can we do one thing then, Mary? Can you make a little apology on all of our behalfs? And we will send this to Sarah to send to her best friend about what Gareth and I did wrong. And we're going to send it just to her. We can get her response after. But a quick little apology.

and then Gareth and I at the end will say, I'm sorry, but what you didn't, you know, just to really mend the fences, fix this thing between friends, so we can move on and be happy. Do you want me to do it right now? Yes, please. Sarah, on behalf of Gareth and Jake, I, Mary Steenbergin, who didn't have anything to do with what they did, but did call them out on it, we would all like to say we humbly apologize. for any discord between you and your best friend in the whole wide world. And in the future, when we take calls that have to do with crocheting or any other type of crafting at all, the men promise not to get themselves all worked up

about how macho they are or not. in their case, but they were trying to talk about they were big fighters. And they promised never to do that again, because I really do believe that was the source of the whole problem that skewed them into so radically wanting to take you to court. And anyway, we don't have to revisit it. We're sorry. I'm sorry as well.

Well, I really appreciate that, Mary. Thank you very much for saying so. Okay. Okay. And thank you, Sarah. And I think to what Jake was saying before, I will say on behalf of both of us, yeah, I think Mary has made a lot of great points. And when we heard the transcripts back of what we said and what had preceded it,

it wasn't right to sit there and talk about a fight club and then go into advice about how to relieve some crochet issues. That wasn't right. I will say, you know, maybe the producers could have thought about the sequencing of those calls a little better, but I'm not going to put that on them, Mary, to your point. This is a, Jake and I need to look and. Don't watch it. Yeah, you're exactly right. Are you blaming another woman?

No, no, no, don't, Natalie, I don't, I mean, with all due respect, mute yourself. But Mary, you're exactly. Sarah, I don't think, Sarah, go back to your landline because that was a better connection for stuff like this. But Mary, you're exactly right. and we're never going to do that again and again. I'm saying as an ally, you know, no, we should not have done that. And going forward, we're not going to, if we hear someone's about to go into a big meeting, we're definitely not going to say, hey, let's, you know, thrust this big, big thing on you.

We'll wait. We won't just think about our schedules. We'll think about your lives. And I think that's what this is really about. And to Mary, thank you for saying that, Sarah. Thank you for joining us. And Natalie, when I said mute yourself, I meant that in the, you know, and I did not mean that in any negative way.

And I'm talking and I should stop. But we just, on behalf of Jake and I thank you and sorry and sorry and sorry. Thank you, Sarah. No, and I don't do it for a thank you. Do you want to ring the bell? I don't want to ring the bell. I just feel like that's such a just kind of a. So now you're denying her a bell ring,

even though she solved the problem on our own? Stay muted. I don't love you. Okay, bells wrong. Bell's wrong, Sarah. Mary, Natalie. Thank you so much for your help with my problem. All right. Thank you, Sarah.

And thank you, Mary. Natalie, or what do you think, Natalie? I think we're good. All right. Mary, you're the best. It is an honor to meet you for real. Oh, my God. It's so nice to meet you.

It was fun. Hi, Jake and Gareth. I'm calling about episode 265, the caller named Greg. This person is falling asleep at work, and you all gave him some very humorous workarounds for his issue. I'm a nurse practitioner, and I'm not a sleep expert, but this gentleman needs to see a doctor. I know he said he has had tests, but I would be asking him if he's had a sleep study or seen a sleep specialist. There are physicians who have training specifically for diagnosing and treating sleep disorders, and this person really needs to

C1. Falling asleep every day at work despite sleeping all night is not normal. He could have sleep disorder breathing such as sleep apnea, which can be dangerous if left untreated. Not to mention the other risks of moving through the world with the possibility of falling asleep at any moment like when driving a car. Please encourage him to seek a second opinion specifically from a sleep expert. Thanks for the show. It's the lighthearted thing we all need in this world and it has me laughing each week on my commute. Thanks guys. We're Here to Help is hosted by Jake Johnson and Gareth Reynolds. If you'd like to be on the show, please email us your question at helpful pod at gmail.com. And if you want to watch video episodes of We're Here to Help, you can go

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