We're Here to Help - 284: WEIRD Here To Help: MILF Pants & The Witch Dietitian

Episode Date: April 24, 2026

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We're here. We're here. Here, here. To do to help help with the word, with risk of reference. We're here to help. We're here to help. Welcome back to another episode of Weird Here to Help with the wonderful Eric Edelstein and me, little Stevie Berg.

How are you doing today, my friend? I'm so good, buddy. I'm so happy to be in here with you. Oh, yeah. Look at us. A couple of musicians just making jazz, figuring it out as we go. There's no plan.

There's no sheet music. We're just feeling the space and complement each other with a little bittlittlachshophone here and an upright bass move. You're thallonious punk, dude. It's so cool. Thelonious punk.

I like that. Steve, I'll say this. These are some of the best calls we've ever had. We had, yeah, the calls you're buried to hear are so good. I'm just wowed. They're truly some of the best ones I think we've ever had, to be honest. And it's a lot of ways they helped us.

They, well, they always do, Eric. Yeah, we are. We are, we're working some progress, absolutely. Eric, I don't know if I mentioned, I wanted to save it for the show. But I had an interesting week. Give me. A little bit. So this time of year in the Midwest, in the heartland of America, it is Morrell

mushroom season. Eric, have you ever had a morel mushroom? Oh, I love them. I do a dry fry. There's nothing better. Just throw them in the pan, let the water come out, then you add the oil, then you add the balsamic. Yeah. A little wine, Steve.

Oh, yeah. Reduce that. I hope you're wearing cheap socks because they're going to get knocked right off. Well, you get, so the morels are the one mushroom, I think, and truffles that you cannot grow. They can't, they, you have to pick them naturally. And so there's about a, you know, anywhere from a seven to 10-day window where they pop up. So every year since I moved back to Nebraska, I go. go out with a couple buddies and we go

morel hunting and it is so fun you're on all fours you're having to do a lot of you know work you're but you're fine in these and I got a grip of morels already processed brine put in the freezer for a later years this weekend I'm going to do a nice risotto with them a risotto with a

marl mushroom flavoring you just can't beat it however Eric when you're on all fours in your middle of the forest in eastern Nebraska you're going to pick up some ticks. No, don't.

Don't. Okay. Okay. And I'm prepared, you know, as a fly fisherman, I've had ticks on me plenty of times. Oh. You know, so the whole protocol is you come home, you get your clothes right into the wash machine, uh, you take your shoes, you leave my side, which I forgot to do. My wife wasn't too happy about it.

But I did a very, very thorough, uh, tick check, you know, all over the old body. And, um, everything looked fine. I found one of my shoulder, got that thing off, flushed down the toilet. On your skin, sucking your blood? It was there. Well, when I took my shirt off, I saw it crawling from, like, my back to the shoulder in the mirror. And so I got rid of it. Anyways, you know, 24 hours goes by.

No. I wake up in the middle of the night to, you know, you're an older. When you get older, you start, you have to pee in the middle of the night. Plus, I do a lot of hydration. And I go to take a pee, take a number one. And I find, I don't know how to say it's jelly. I'm just going to come out with saying it. A tick on my junk.

No. No, no, no. I had a tick. I'm not going to, like, get more specific than that. There was a- You have to. There was a tick on my privacy, on my bathroom parts. And it, I mean, like-

Are you, on the twig or the berries? The twig. Dude, it was like- What the fuck were you doing on all fours out there that there's a tick on your dick? Well, they could, they, they crawl up and they get, and they'll hide in different places and crevices, and then they'll move around on your body. I never felt it. I was very excited.

You ooze sexuality. It's like I'm going to go out the best to tick and go out on Steve Bird's balance. I'll tell you what, I shrieked, brother. I would scream. What did you do when you found it? Well, okay, I flipped out. I actually did. I like went into a fucking complete panic.

I was like, well, I'm going to have to cut my dick off, you know. Like, I really like, you know. You might have to do that anyway. I had, well, come on. I had been asleep, too. This is like, you know, it was like 3.30 in the morning, the witching hour. I find this tick on there, and it is burrowed and just it. Not all the way.

So I'm like fucking panicking. At first I'm like, do I get a lighter? And then I'm like, dude, I'm not putting fire next to, you know, my baby maker. And, you know, I didn't know what to do. So I just kind of like dug my fingernails in there, grabbed that motherfucker, got it out, hurt like unholy hell. and I flushed that goddamn thing down toilet put a band-aid on and then sat in bed all night

wondering if I have Lyme's disease that's that was my week how's your week going? I'm speechless because don't you have to like screw them out counterclockwise or get fire? I think they're yeah because otherwise they can stay in there

and keep sucking if you don't take them out properly That's what terrifies me. There is definitely like a protocol. However, it's 330 in the morning. And all I knew is like this thing's got to come out right fucking now. I wasn't going to go on like WebMD and look up like, I would have got a lighter. I really would have got a lighter. And let your dick on fire.

You would put flame right to your like, uh, I'd be so scared. Steve. I've not said this. I'm always reticent to say things I'm afraid of. I'm terrified of ticks. Me too. I don't love them. We went to,

the Hudson Valley this summer. Our friend Taylor lives there, and I would not hike because I'm so afraid of ticks. Oh, you can't let it. You can't let something keep you out of nature, man. Ticks will. I'm sorry. I'll walk on the street. I'll get an exercise bike.

I'm so freaked out by these things, and I'm so freaked out by Lyme disease. And this new thing, I'll laugh. I'll kind of laugh. I'll feel horrible, but what if you have that tick bite that makes you not like meat anymore? It makes you allergic to meat. That allures the red meat? I mean...

Yeah, that's a thing. No, I know. I know someone who has that. So all these guys are getting in, then they have to turn into vegans, which is kind of... It's hilarious. I'm sorry. It's sort of hilarious to someone going in and having to like, oh, it's a satan, the cashew cheese, because they can't do meat. You know, like, two weeks ago, it's funny.

I saw that, like, this is, it's absolutely not true. That there was, like, some paranoid people saying, like, kicks were to CIA, like, development thing that they were going to release... in Russia during the Cold War. Like they said they developed Lyme, CAA developed Lyme disease, which... I dip me in the toe in that water. I've read it.

I mean, they didn't have ticks like this 40, 50 years ago. They didn't have Lyme disease 40 years ago. But I think it's more climate change. Poor Christopher Maloney from Law and Order, I watch that commercial of Lyme disease. It's real and it's not fun. And I get so scared every time Christopher

Maloney comes on my TV talking about Lyme disease. I don't want it. Well, see, yeah, and basically, I had the damn. around my neck right now. I have an albatross around my neck because I'm just sitting here waiting to see if this little tick bite turns into the bullseye, which means you have Lyme disease. So you're just looking at your dick all the time.

I'm just looking at my dick right fucking out. No, I'm kidding. I'm able to get through four callers today. And I want you to be honest because I can't see the waist down. Did you look at your dick today while we were podcasting? No, I didn't. I didn't. That's the difference than you and me.

I'd be so terrified. Right when I hit stop. I'm going to be just. Did you wake up your wife when you found the tick? She, yeah, oh, she could hear me, like, flustered in the bathroom. She's like, hey, he's like, are you okay in there? I'm like, what kind of sounds are you making? What, give it to us, please?

I was like, oh, no, oh, God. Oh, no. Oh, fuck. Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. Shit. Oh, shit. Oh, God. That needs to be someone's ringtone right there.

Grab that out, put your ringtone. We're going to make lemons out of lemonade. I literally laid in bed and like, are they going to have to cast. Oh, buddy. Am I going to have to go to the hospital get castrated the next day? Like, first off, I looked up, uh, like, like it doesn't matter where it is. Like, thank God, so they're not going to have to take my dick off,

which I was worried about that. I'm not going to lie. But I am now on the watch. I'm on, I'm on the clock to see if I have Lyme disease. So this is a comment two be continued. Now I'm so worried about this. And not to be two in the weeds,

but was it at least on the. Not the, not the business end? Not the business. It was not on the business end of the situation. I feel so bad that now everyone's having to, have this horrible picture in their head of a... Oh, they've already been visualizing your dick

since the calendar came out, buddy. But this is like, I'm truly like, shit, I don't want to have Lyme disease, man. Like, that's, like, really bad. So, this could be... Well, we just met a witch that can heal people with dietary stuff and migraines. I'm sure, if, heaven forbid, I don't think you have it.

I think the bulls I would have already showed up. But if you do, we have... We now have a witch that is a healer that can help you. And I'm excited to hear of all. You were just on the show Weird Here to Hope. I know this is kind of weird that I'm reaching out to you, but I know you do some witchcraft, and I was wondering,

I have a tick on my, I had a tick on my dick, if there's something you could do, the bad bad. She's like, later, pervert, like,

yeah, there's no way. So were you able to go back to sleep? And then what happened when you woke up? Not really. It was fit, full sleep, man.

I'm still catching up. It was like, I woke up, it immediately was like reading online about it. I did not sleep well. Because in my head, you know, I was in that kind of hypnotogic,

you know, waking, you know, weird thing. And I was just like, I'm gonna, they're like gonna have to like do some shit to my junk. And I don't like that. Like I'd rather just have Lyme disease as opposed to them having to like do some weird procedure on my junk. You know what I'm saying? So you just rip the fucker off. Are you, was anything in morning? I ripped it off.

It was in. So it was like kind of not all the way burrowed in where it was like buried in there. But it was like in there. It was not easy to get off by the way. like it really wasn't and it hurt like fucking hell there's a lot of nerve endings down there I'm sorry that this is the most graphic intro we'll probably ever do

look this is life this is life you broke it you bought with us and we needed to know this here's the upside I got a grip of golden top morels that are so beautiful I will post the pictures on the Patreon because I'm so proud of them but man it overall like food's always going to win out and it was worth it even if I get lime

disease because man morels are hard to find and they're so delicious and let me tell you if we've never had morels in a risotto folks find some of those morels or go out hunting yourself because maybe you'll never well yeah i mean you might get you also might get a tick on your part of you're insane i know you're going to go out moreal hunting again next year aren't you i'm going and i'm going this sunday you're insane if you don't wrap your dick like the mummy i don't know what to do with you like they'll just wrap your whole body in the mummy wrapped in plastic, like, buddy, I love you so much for going back out there. I'm such a frady cat.

I wouldn't do it again. I'm such awe of you, but please wrap yourself up so well. I'll be better. I'll actually use the tick spray that's toxic, the deet, whatever, like that gives you like, you know, bad diseases later in life. But like, yeah, I think in this case, I'm going to have to put the weird chemicals all over my pants and stuff because I don't want to go through that again because a tick of the dick. Folks, don't recommend. Don't try it. Like a lot of things you want to experience in life,

this is not one of them. It was sheer panic. I thought I was going to have to castor it myself. Yeah, it was not a great situation. But, you know, overall, I got a freezer full of Morales. I'm very excited about it. Eric, should we get into these colors so we can stop talking about my junk for a second? I don't think we have a choice. Folks, without further ado, we give you this episode of Weird Here. I thought you got to sing with me. Let's do that again. Let's do it again.

Eric looks exhausted right now. I think this story. I'm worried. I'm worried. You look like a worried mother right now. I'm going to get a lecture off the air. I can already feel it's apparent. Oh, my God.

I'm in trouble. I'm in trouble. But folks, enjoy this episode. We had a blast doing it. And have a great rest of your day. With that further ado, Weird Here to Help. Weird, here to help. Every once in a while in someone's life, there comes a time where you actually need help.

And when you need help, there's only one place to go. And that is Weird Here to Help with Eric Edelstein and Little Stevie Berg. Caller, how are you doing? Welcome to Weird Here to Help with my buddy Eric. Eric and I, myself, I'm here too, obviously. That goes about saying. I didn't really need to point that out. I'm an asshole.

Sorry. Best intro ever. Best intro ever. Not very eloquent. I blame my speech impediment. Try having a lisp and doing introing a show. Not easy, folks. Caller, my friend, what is your name?

Where are you calling from? And if you had to tell us what your favorite movie slash TV show is, book, and Albumar, just so we get a sense of you are. We'd love to hear it. Hi, I'm Emmy. I can't believe I'm here. I'm so excited. I'm very happy to have you.

I love your name too. Never known about Emmy. Not one. No, it's just a fun name. You're a fun person. I've never known a bad Jack. Never known a bad, yeah. Never known a bad Emmy.

They're all great. I've known a bunch of bad Chad. No, Jack. I've never known a bad Jack. No, I know. I'm just saying, I'm just adding that Chad's. Chad's, be careful. Oh, yeah.

They'll stab you right in the back. You won't even see it coming. Absolutely. Chad, what the fuck? Yeah. Yeah, Chad. Wow. My God.

Okay. Sorry, Amy. Talk to me about some of your favorites. And also, what region or area are you calling from if you were comfortable sharing that? I'm calling from the South. Oh, I love the South. Yes. And let's see. It was favorite, favorite show is Better Call Saul. Oh, great. We love that. Oh, the best. Favorite, oh, what were the other ones?

Book is Jane Eyre. Oh, classic. Favorite. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And then favorite album. I feel like I always panic when people ask. I know, it's tough. We'll go with rumors. I'm seeing Stevie Nix.

Oh, are you really? Oh, hell yeah. That's so cool. Friend of the show, Stevie Nix. We wish, but she still got it. She still got her fastball. It comes in 102. And we're hoping, let's be honest,

we're hoping that she in Buckingham start getting along better. There's some thawing in the relationship, Steve. I know. I think it's fine. I blame Lentie. I'll be honest. There is.

There is. They'll iron it out I think it's all in Lindsay I support Stevie This pod supports Stevie 100% Lindsay I'm figure your shit out I'm a stevie

This is Stevie Nick's team podcast So Amy I'm guessing you probably called For another purpose Other than you Talking about the wonders of Stevie Nix How can my friend Eric And I help you today

Okay this is definitely a weird one Oh So a couple weeks ago my boyfriend gave me these sweatpants that I sent in a picture of that say milf on the butt which is obviously Was it his choice to get you

sweatpants or did you ask for them? And are you a mother? Are you a mother even? I'm not a mother. It doesn't stand for what you'd think. It stands for man I love frisbee which it says on the leg because he is a frisbee player. Oh. I knew these pants were coming. I was very Oh, those are great. Those are sick.

We're looking at these pictures of these pants. Yeah. They're super funny. And they look thin, too. Like you can wear them in the spring or early summer, too, which I like. They're a little thick, but they're pretty fun. Well, I'll wash them enough time. I like the rug, too.

That's a classic rug there. Really ties the room together. Thank you. I love the rug. The problem is, and this was quite a plot twist, like two minutes after he gave me the pants, he broke up with me. What? Fuck him.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on, literally two minutes after? It was, I'm not getting, like, no more than three to four. How weird. How? Was his name, Chad? I'm sorry. It was not.

You know what, but it's his first name. We can call him, Chad if we need a chat. Yeah, okay, okay. Well, let's call him fucking Chad, dude. It's such a Chad thing to do. Okay, so I'm without, you know, getting too personal or divulging it. Explain to me the mechanics of giving someone a gift. It's like, hey, I got any new sweatpants.

I want you to support. You know, I love Baltimore Fristie. By the way, I think we should see other people. Like, how does that work? It was basically that. It was super confusing. He, like, came in and he seemed normal. And he gave me the pants and seemed really excited.

And, like, it was super nice. And I asked how he was. And he was like, I've had a lot on my mind this week. I don't think I can be in a relationship anymore. Why give you the pants then? I don't know. As a parting gift? Like, like, is it like the gold watch when you retire from a company?

Like, okay. It was really strange. It was, it was really, really bizarre. And I, like, kind of blacked out the pants until maybe like 15 minutes after he left. And I was, I was like, why did he give me those pants? Oh, my God. Yeah. So is it ultimate, is the ultimate frisbee he plays?

Yes, he plays ultimate frisbee. Wow, that is the quintet. essential 1990s stoner activity, which I would say even above hacky sack, man. Like, you know, that would probably never one. I really do. Oh, he will. Trust me. Amy, I'm going to say this.

I think you already know it. I'm glad you're free of this guy. Fuck, Chad. This is a barnacle on the soul. Someone that has that kind of behavior, you're so much better than. And I know it hurts. Yeah. But, like, I'm glad he's out of your life because this is crazy.

And I don't doubt somebody that's unhinged and kind of see me. bipolar is going to try to come back and do not let him back in. Tell him to take his Frisbee and fuck off. Right, Steve? Yeah, I agree. We don't like this guy for you. You deserve so much better than this insane behavior. That's cruel.

It was really bizarre. Yeah, I'm feeling very sad, but I am feeling very. The way it happened, I don't have any interesting. Never, no, but he will try. Trust me, I know crazy. He will try. And you do not. You can even give them back the sweats, but they are nice, thick sweat bands.

Eric has a history of giving purple blouses to all his exes before he breaks up. It's a party gift, Steve. It's a party gift. Prince wore purple, they can wear purple. Hey, Betsy, I thought those blouse look really great. By the way, I'm out of here. It's like marking your territory. Yeah, I leave a purple blouse wherever I've been.

They're all over Eagle Rock. Yeah. Even like doctors I don't go to anymore, I give him a purple blouse. No. It's just what I do. Yeah, it's, and you weren't really supposed to bring up in the air. Steve, we'll talk afterward. Sorry about that.

Well, too late. I'm probably going to get a purple blast to me tomorrow morning. Yeah, but I've wronged the air. On the air. Send the purple blast on Omaha. Five XL tall. No, no, no. Sorry.

Oh, no, no. Emmy, are you looking to host a semi-hit podcast giving advice? No, Emmy, don't take my job. I got two cats to feed. And we are brought to you by quints. We love quits. We're here to help. So all I do these days I wear black shirt and black pants.

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Invite some friends over, get a nice bottle of Chablis, maybe some light crudete and some southwestern egg rolls. And then you light that fucking effigy. All female energy should be there. Not one man. Yes, of course, of course. It should be all your, you and your sisters. That is kind of like the, you know, an opening gambit for a revenge plot.

Now, Eric, if you don't mind, I'd like to pitch something that's a little more fun and making lemons into lemonade. eBay? That's interesting. That's interesting. I didn't have that, Eric. Eric, pour on that thread a little more. So what I was thinking, when you were talking about the pants, it hit my, it hit me, like there was a movie that came in about 20 years. something something in the traveling jean the traveling

the traveling pants yes the traveling pants sisterhood of the traveling pants that's exactly right what if you form a sisterhood of the traveling pants and you and your close friends and it can be like cousins you can the farther you can send these pants away and like they travel the world would be amazing but you should start your own sisterhood of the traveling pants you wear them for the first month this is part of the grooming process

as part of the healing process to get over Chad. So, like, Chad, I'm not going to let this object cause me grief. I'm going to wear these and laugh and create a great bit for me and my friends. You wear, it's like these things travel for a month. The owner, you know, whoever has it for the month gets to wear them, gets to do whatever they want them. Then you wash them and you send them to the next sister. I do kind of like it.

Yeah, the question that I've been sort of like grappling with, which you basically hit the nail on the head is what do I do with these pants? They also feel, because I have other things that he gave me that don't have like this weird energy attached to them. Like the pants feel cursed. They're, oh yeah, no. But we're going to undo that. We are going to undo that.

Great. If you haven't burned sage and Paul Asanteau all around those pants yet, do it now. Eric's right about that phone. Some incense, but I haven't done any, any sage. Done. Incense is sacred. Eric and I are going to People are going to start at a certain point

claiming that we're working for a big sage We're getting like some sage sponsorship It's the cure of a lot of things there can I recommend But I do think Eric's why Purify those pants, get that Chad's stank off them Because I mean like he's got the ultimate Frisbee sweat which is like a stress sweat That don't smell no

That smells awful man No but here's what I'll say I think we already know this these pants are a gift and wonderful because the pants prove his insanity and there's maybe a chance he could have wriggled his way back in Steve and I both want to beat him up I know that's not our best selves we try to be better but that's where I'm lucky enough to know the pants symbolize that you're never ever ever going to deal with this fuck again yeah and I think if you start viewing the pants as a hilarious gift it's already brought you to our podcast and we're so glad to know you

The other thing I'll say is I agree the sister of the traveling pants. Steve and I are in touch with our divine feminine. If you're okay with these pants getting a little bit stretched out, I think Steve and I would both love to take a picture of us in these pants. Oh, yeah. I love this idea. Really filling in that milf background. And if you cryptically post two giant character actors wearing the melfth pants on your Instagram,

because you know he's lurking. This is great. Somebody that gives pants and a breakup is a lurker. I bet I guarantee he's got a burger He's got a burger He's looking through, I bet he's got a burger He's looking through friends Like my wife will try to like I want to see what so-and-so's doing

I'm like, why? Why? I'm like, why don't I unfollow him? No, no, I want to see. He's lurking. Someone that gives breakup sweatpants is a lurker. And if you post two giant character actors I'll tell you what, I'd love it for the publicity from your Instagram page.

I got a fun show coming out May 21st called The Brows on Netflix. He's looking to get out there, yeah. I'm looking. If you post a picture of me and the milf sweatpants and say, my friend Eric, has a show coming out on Netflix May 21st, please watch. He'll be so utterly confused and upset. And that's really what we want. Normally we try to go to our better angels. Steve, your next episode of ghosts or the spinoff. You just post when Steve's new thing is airing with Steve Burr can really fill out some milk sweatpants. You have milf energy, Steve. I'm just going to let you know that, brother.

Well, I shouldn't say I know because that sounds very cocky, but I mean, I don't know. No, you're a milk. You are, Steve. Like, I can totally see on Real Housewives of Salt Lake. Well, I am a, I'm about as sassy as it comes. I am a sassafras over here. Are you kidding me, dude? Yeah.

Come on. Well, I will say, I think doing kind of, like, the first instinct always is to destroy them in some kind of like way where you're like, ah, got revenge. I find revenge to not be. satisfying. I really don't. That was my first instinct and I do kind of like the idea now of doing something to like cleanse them and like send

them on their way and sort of have a little bit of like that was a good relationship at the time and now we're done like out of you. Do you have a like where you live? I know like you know the way people are now it's like your friends are spread out all over the country or all over the world or whatever but do you have a core group of friends who

love like sisters or brothers that live close to you? I do have some really good friends. here and I have some family here too and I could do I could definitely also like mail the pants to other friends around the country. That's exactly right. However, I think

if you want to start doing this you have a little party at your house and just say like I have I want to you know like this is a party. It's not there is a purpose by the party I'm keeping the purpose of the party a little bit sacred but please come bring a covered dish if you want or a 12 pack

you should always bring something You know, you guys have the hospitality down south. You're not animals. I never come empty-handed. But, like, I think having an event and then at the end, holding, come out wearing the pants, tell the story. They probably are going to know the story. And then say, I'm asking some of you, if you'd like to,

to participate in the sisterhood of the traveling pants. Yeah, yeah. And not only that, when they come in, they're going to be a little confused because they're going to see a top-flight charcutory board being served on a frizzed, on a frisbee. They're going to be high quality appetizers served on a frisbee, and they won't quite know why. I love that idea.

Until the pants come out. Why is this? We are ab- We are taking it to 10 with this guy. Yeah. We don't like him. If you're listening now, friend, you're not a friend of this show. You'll never be a friend of this show.

If you come up to me in a bar, I'm not going to be affable. No. And I'm always affle. I won't be affable with you because you hurt my friend. Yep. And I can't wait to try these pants on. And I'll be honest, I've been doing some meeting. I'm getting ready for fall.

I'm going to fill them out real well. Steve's going to fill them out real well. Yeah, real well. And we are going to turn these pants into a mega tonne weapon. I'll tell you what, I'd like to get a hold of these pants. I'd like to get them on, get my gardening shirt on, and I will take some great photos of me, like, you know, pruning my tomato plants. On a hot summer day.

And then this chair would be like, oh, my God. Oh, is this a new calendar, Steve? Well, and I'm just saying. Oh, wow. I'm just saying the pants might have to make an appearance in these because like, look, let's get back at this Chad. I think. Oh my God. If they make it into the calendar, I'd die.

Dude, I'll tell you this right. I'll tell you this right now. Give the people what they were. Send these pants to Eric and I. Let Eric and I take them for a test spin. Then we'll send them back to you. And then, and also, if you wouldn't mind inducting Eric and I into the sisterhood of the traveling pants, I know I would take it as a great honor. You are obviously, of course.

as part of the sisterhood. Oh, my God. We're so into the sisterhood. This is so good. Thank you. This is so great. Oh, we love it. We love it.

We're in touch with our divine family. I also, this is the way, I think, you know, because like, revenge to me has a negative connotation in a negative spirit where it is temporary release. I don't think it helps long term. I think taking a, like, a moment like this where you were, you were clearly wronged. It was done inappropriate, turning it into a, a, a. a lifetime bit that you and your friends can laugh about. Because the last thing Chad wants you doing is laughing at him.

And this is actually, it's revenge. And also you're creating a fun, hilarious inside joke with your buddies. Also, I mean, like, I got to tell you,

get these, I mean, we'll give you the address off the, off the air, but like, Eric and I can't wait to get in these pants. Oh, I can't wait.

Oh my God. I love the idea of you guys, the pants so much. Yeah. Oh, it's going to be so fun. And the other thing I'd say, unblock them. When the pan pictures start going, it's going to truly drive him nuts. He's like, why are these character actors?

Why is the guy that died at everything wearing the pants? I thought I was being cool. I'm like, no, Chad, this proves your insanity. I personally think you're bipolar. I think you're a nut. I'm so glad you're away from Emmy. But I'm wearing the pants now. And then Steve's going to wear the pants.

Have fun of a ultimate word to wear these pants. Dork. Like, get out of town. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, there's nothing wrong ultimate frisbee. I play. It's very fun. However, like, I mean, I don't like this guy. He's giving the Ultimate Frisbee a bad name. First off, I think he should be banned from the organization. I'll write a letter. I'll write a letter. I know Todd of Ultimate Frisbee National Association. He's going to get a sternly written Chuck Schumer style letter for me. Because we can trace. Whoever's making these pants probably knows, Chad. And he should be banned from Ultimate Frisian. I agree. I agree.

He should be the P. Rose of Ultimate Frisbee. I'm weaponizing a really cool pair of pants. Exactly. Yeah, I love this. I also love Eric's idea of creating that theme, that sort of subtle theme of the, like, putting Baba Ganesh in a frisbee. I mean, my God, if I go to a party where someone's served of Baba Gnuch and appetizers on a frisbee, I'm like, I don't know what this is about, but I like it a lot.

I'd be very hands come out. It's the greatest payoff ever. It really is. Oh, this is clean cut. This is so fun, and I had to tell you, Emmy, like, I know, I'm going to go ahead and speak for Eric on this. We genuinely really want to wear these pants. Fantastic. In my head, I was like, maybe Steve will want to wear the pants.

The fact that both of you want the pants. You manifested us. Yeah, we're both wearing him. Yeah, we're both wearing him. Like, you know, it's like, look, I've tried to get Eric to wear certain articles of clothing, and he's always been like, buddy, I love you. I'm a hard knowing that. you, my friend, offer some milf pants, and Eric's like, yes, please, how do I get these?

There's a milf and me waiting to come out or finally is. Oh, there is. Here I sit. A beautiful mouth lives inside of you. And also, you might be doing, you might be bringing something out in Eric and I. You know, like, we're, like, Eric and I are going to get even further in touch with our divine and feminine. So this is like a two-way three. We hope we're helping you.

We think you. But, boy, you're giving us a gift. Amazing. I love this plan. I really love it. This is so good. We're doing it. It is written.

So we're going to give you the address off air and then it's starting. And then I'll send them to Steve. And then I'll get good pictures. I'll just run it. Take great pictures of me in the pants. They'll go to Steve. They'll go to all your friends. And then I think you start posting them.

Because you should win this episode of the podcast air is you got to self-promote. Yeah. Promote a podcast. I'm blocking. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It'll start driving him nuts. It will. And that we have weaponized these pants that prove his incentive.

sanity. Oh, I love it. Talk about making the greatest lemonade ever of, but God, this could be like a C, like an ABC movie of the week in like 1992. You know what I'm saying? This is so good. Finally, Steve, we can play ourselves. Absolutely. Before this would be Chad Lowe and, you know. It would be Chad Lowe is in a lot of those. Thomas Everett Howell or something. But finally, the big guys get to be the leads and we are in the sisterhood of the traveling. You and I are the Tom Scarrots this time, Eric.

Oh, I'm so grateful. Yay! Oh, friend, well, I'll tell you what, we will give you, you know, right to the show where you wrote in this thing, and Eric and I will give you our PO boxes. You can send those off any old time. I'll get in those pants ASAP,

and I know Eric and I will, Eric will too. I mean, like, I couldn't be, I've never been as excited to wear an article in clothing. Fuck Chad, fuck Ultimate Frisbee. This is how we win and have a great bit. I think going the revenge route, it's too easy, and I feel like it's not, it will be, it'll be temporarily satisfying. This is a bit forever. And I'm telling you, I like turning it into a bit.

That, that feels really, really fun. And it feels like it's going to get the, like, negativity out of the pain. It will. Oh, done. I mean, these things will be in the Smithsonian in 2007. I guarantee it. Yeah. And Steve Berg knows how to smolder, and he's going to smolder in these pants.

Fantastic. Yeah. Yeah. Look out. Look out, folks. Hide the kids. Hide the wife. All right.

We met one more great Emmy. Yes. Exactly. This is such a great call, Emmy. And we can't wait to get started with this diabolical, glorious, full of love, revenge. This is so good. I really, really appreciate it. Oh, you're the best.

So good talking. Emmy, you're a gem. Take care of yourself. And also, there is a better man out there for you. Or a woman who however. Thank you. Either way. But there is a better partner for you out there. This guy blew it. Blue it. And it's going to be the big regret of your life. So if you can take that grief, put it to

the side for a while and start saying this might have been the best thing that's ever happened to me. All right. Thank you guys so much. I can't wait to see you in the pants. The pants are a totem of that. Yeah, they are. Yeah. The pants prove it. Look at the pants as a gift that like this shows this guy was nuts and we get the final say. Absolutely. You nailed it. You nailed it. Emmy, you're the best. Hit us back up with where, and we'll tell you we're going to send the pants. We're excited to get those babies on. Amazing.

Thank you all so much. All right, sister. Oh, you rock. Take care, Amy. You love you. All right. Y'all too. Bye.

Oh, wow. Call her. Hello. What is your name? Where are you calling from? And please give us your favorite movie slash premium television show, musical album, and a book or anthology series. Hello.

My name's Kelly. I'm in Georgia and the state and the country. And my favorite book that I would take would be the complete works of E. Cummings. Oh, yeah. Nice. This is why we do it. Now we know where. Which unfortunately sounds a little pretentious, but.

No, no. We like pretension. Capitalization is for suckers. We love this. Yes. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

So that would be my book. Album would be Elton John's greatest hits. I'm good with that. I'm good with that. I'm a big Elton John guy. I do. I do. Yeah, hard to beat Benny and the Jets, I think.

It's fun. It's good fun. It's toe tapping. Yeah. And then TV show I'm going to go with would be Schitt's. Oh, that's two in a row for Schitt's Creek. Did you say Schitt's Creek, Kelly? Yes.

Oh, fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a lot of shit's Creek talk here. Yeah, fun show, Catherine O'Hare. We love it. We love it. Chris Elliott, we love the levees. It's a great show.

Big fan of the levies, friends of the show, the levies. So, Kelly, here's a question. Why or how can Eric and I help you today? Okay, so I am going through sort of a professional identity crisis. so I'm hoping you can help me kind of sort through things. Oh, yeah. Just a little context. I am a dietitian.

I specialize in helping people with migraine. And, you know, I own my own practice. I'm kind of just doing my own thing. And I love my job. I love what I do. I'm also outside of that a witch. Oh, welcome home. Oh, you are hoping.

Pull up a chair and a glass of hot cider. We're going to get into brass tacks here. You are a wish. Now, may I ask what kind of wishcraft you practice? There's many kinds. There's hedge witch. There's, you know, death witch, which I just met for the first time. But what kind of witch are you?

Yes. I feel very at home. I feel like this is the only place I could ask this question. But I identify mostly as a hedge witch, kind of eclectic. but yeah, that's kind of where I relate most. That's good. And Hedge Witch, for the listeners, that you kind of borrow from a host of different priorities.

You work with a lot like elemental spirit and nature. Am I right about that? Yes. Oh, that's fantastic. Yeah, I know a Dana Newkirk. She's a hedge witch, a very powerful one too. Good buddy of mine. Well, this is great.

So, like, you're a dietitian, you're helping people, and you're a witch, which I know, which has helped people too. So you're already a wonderful person of mine. eyes. Now, how, what is your quandary here? So my question is, you know, as dietitians and, you know, for just for me personally, being very, you know, evidence-based and science-based is important to me in my professional career. And at the same time, I also feel very called to practice more outwardly as a witch and maybe professionally in some capacity. But I have no idea if I,

I can mix those two things if there's a world where that's possible. And if so, like, how would I do that without losing credibility? Right. I hear you. That is tricky because, I mean, the thing is, I mean, you're using, like, two holistic practices, you know, like, I mean, being a dietitian, you know, I suppose could be considered holistic and, you know, like, especially for migraines. I mean, I think, Kelly, and again, you're in the right podcast.

I think there's a way to combine all of this and get even more credibility. And where are you located? Sorry, ADD. Georgia. Yeah, Georgia. Georgia. But are you like city Georgia, like Atlanta-ish? I'm not.

I'm in more of a rural area, but I practice online. Oh, okay, perfect. Just like this. Okay, that's amazing then because, you know, the hippie and the woo-woo you can find anywhere. And the first example of is my sister's a therapist, but also, not unlike you, a heck of a healer. And she started, she was very nervous about doing it. She started incorporating terror in her practice. And her practice exploded.

She's amazing at this stuff. She has a gift. And I think she had kind of the same worries you had, but instead it only helped. And I think, you know, help me if I'm wrong, witchcraft has always been a healing practice. And to bring that in and to kind of bring it into your practice more for those that are into it, I think would only give you more credibility with the right people, i.e. listeners to this show and or the hosts of this show. So you can kind of open that up to the people that are into it. And then also while staying in a strictly scientific lane for migraines and for dietitian work, I think.

Like I think you, I think it's, it's easier than perhaps it used to be to kind of allow all this stuff in. And especially if you're working online, people are going to be open and into this. And you can give advice that they don't even have to know is coming from a witchcraft background. It can just be like, oh, that's really cool. And they're going to think it's science, not knowing, well, it's science, but it's from thousands of years of years of witchcraft that's been proven to help. Yeah, I think, and like, I wonder if it's like a case-by-case basis, like, depending on the client. Like, you know, if it's like a, you know, some kind of stuffy, conservative, like, you know, dude, it may not be, you know, like, I mean, you can kind of, I bet, like, Eric, for your example, like, I bet your sister was, like, kind of sussing people out. For sure.

Not just offering tarot to, like, you know, any Tom Dick or Harry. I think, like, I think he got to, like, maybe, like, you know, do a little vibe. check with the person and maybe then you're like, all right, they're a little open-minded and then kind of like, and maybe also not framing it as like, all right, now we're going to do a little witchcraft, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. I think, like, you see like, like, your pardron. Here's what you're going to do for your migraine now.

Let me put on my little, yeah. Yeah, and the number one thing that makes it all okay and brings people in and keeps them staying is results. So I go and I get a lot of shit from the boys as well I should. We're going to a lot of hippie-dippy healing practices and doctors. But, like, Eric, I mean, like, Eric, Eric will go to, like, a van to get a colonoscopy on Ventura Boulevard in the Valley. So, I mean, we have a lot of stuff out. It helped.

But, like, one of the places I go to lately is this doctor, deep in the valley, the center of integrative medicine, and he does a lot of really hippie, witchy stuff. I've gone there and I've gotten a laser IV where they run your blood through a laser. It's real, buddy. It's helped a ton. It gets rid of parasites. A lot of this stuff is science that's undiscovered from my perspective. But the people I see in there doing it are conservative older folks you would not expect, but they have been so helped by this. They probably don't tell their friends, yeah, I'm going in and getting my blood drawn through a laser. But they were skeptical and kind of at wits end and hurting. And then this stuff helped them a lot. So there's some surprising people in there getting a laser. IV that you would not expect. And I think you could have very much the same results. So if I may, I'm not asking to give away some free game here. Can you kind of explain the connection between being a dietitian and migraines? Like, what is the connection? Maybe there's people listening right now. We can kind of get you doing a little bit of a therapy session here to let some of our listeners know who may be plagued by migraines what they can do in terms of what they're eating

and consuming to help. Please tell me it's eat a lot of spaghetti. That's what I want to hear. Steve. Yes. It is just eat pasta every day. No, it's not. Steve, let's cook. It'll definitely help your mood. I'm sorry.

It would help my mood, which I get grouchy sometimes at the right on spaghetti. He does. He does. He really does. Go ahead. It's a naughty little boy. Well, a lot of the work that I do is around helping people, you know, support all of the different systems within the body that influence migraine. Because, you know, your overall health influences how.

severe your migraine is and how vulnerable you are to triggers and that type of thing. So you can support, you know, that your gut brain connection with food and your hormone health and, of course, blood sugar. So that's a lot of the work that I do with, you know, my people is helping them figure out which system or systems are off that are making things harder for them. Now, let me ask you this. Here's the second part of the question. That's the dietitian part of you. you as a witch how would you go about integrating the hedge witchery I shouldn't witchery that's probably not a way to say it but you know what I mean how would you how would you apply being a hedge witch to helping someone with a migraine for example yeah I mean I have done this a little bit with clients who are open to it and I I also have kind of like a group program online space too so that's another thing. I'm working with a lot of people at once sometimes. But I, you know, I do practice some energy work,

so that's something I've done with some people. Herbs, like the more, like, medicinal, spiritual properties of herbs is something that I also. Don't enable him. Don't enable him, Kelly. Please, I'm begging you. I'm just asking, man. Just lie. It's so hard for not to show up here, Stone.

He's doing a good job. I'm not a stone. Yeah, be careful, friend. Never touch the stuff. Of course, no. Okay, so Greg Almond weed in Atlanta. It was amazing.

Okay, so it kind of makes sense. So basically it's like, it's just kind of like an alternative to like, you know, mainstream science, basically. And that's really what being a witch is, right? You know, in a way like you're, like Eric said, a healer and you're, you know, using different elements of nature to help people. psychologically and physically. Yes.

Well, and again, Steve, and I know you and I will go back and forth. Sometimes this stuff is, to me, science that's undiscovered. And let me give an example from my own life of some of it has helped me a lot. For thousands of years, witches have used wormwood, you know, that we think about from absent, but they have used wormwood for protection, banishing negative energies and enhancing divination. Well, in the last 40, 50 years, doctors have started using wormwood for parasites. I now take wormwood daily. So this is something witches have been right about in their practice for thousands of years,

and it took a long time for science to be like, oh, wait, Wormwood actually kills parasites. The reason so many people have had good results getting weird and drinking absinthe and writing poetry, is because the wormwood was actually killing parasites that were making them sick. So this kind of proves the point of like, there's a lot of witchcraft that's just science under another name. What do you think about that, Kelly? Oh.

Yeah, I mean, I do fully agree with that. I think, you know, magic and all of that, you know, to an extent is just something that we don't have an explanation for yet. Science we can't explain. Thank you. I'm definitely with you there. And, you know, I'm always with this stuff, especially with, you know, migraine where it's so hard to get results sometimes, you know, for people and helping help better.

Like, if there's something that you can try that isn't going to harm you, but might help you or at least be neutral, then, you know, I agree. I agree. I think it's good for being real talk, I think it's going to be how you frame it. I think if you, like, every once in all you may have a client, like, ooh, which, if it was me, you know, and you're helping me with signs with my migraine. and you're like, hey, I'm going to try some witchcraft shit. And I'd be like, yes, please, let's suck a party. But, like, you're not going to get weirdos like Eric or I every time. So let's pretend you're, like, having a suburban, you know, just kind of a normie come in.

Georgia guy coming in, racked by migraines. Absolutely. Probably looks at Garth Brooks, you know, like he, that's fine. If we're lucky. If we're lucky. But, you know, he's wanting kind of like that traditional thing. I do think there's a way where you can weave in some of your witchy stuff, but I think it's going to be how you frame it.

I think if you say, now I'm going to try some occult, like, witchcraft shit. I'm getting out of here. What the hell? I'm going to her in there with a migraine, and she said she was a witch. Holy shit. How do I call the Better Business Bureau? Now, she didn't have a broom or a hat. I didn't know.

Her fights wasn't grain or anything. You're already clearly very intuitive, and I think you can kind of suss out who you lean into at this. But I think for you and your path you're on, the more you amalgamate this stuff and not worry about what people think, your spirit and your practice will kind of soar. Like, you know, you're probably meant to bring all this stuff together. And it brings so much wisdom. Just look at the Wormwood example. That's something that people laughed at. Now it's science and we know it helps people a ton. And I think that that's just the tip of the iceberg for stuff that witches have been doing for a long time that are only now, we find out. And we find out. And I think that's,

out the roots in it. Right. And I think because of being a dietitian, like, look, if you're, if my cardiologist is like, all right, Steve, well, you have a, your aorta is completely screwed. Now we're going to try some warm wood. I'd be like, okay, get me out of here. But like, because you're a dietitian and you're helping with migraines, I think, like, you're going to be able to weave this in to your practice very seamlessly, but it's going to be all how you frame it. You know what I'm saying? And you can ask them if they're comfortable. comfortable trying it. Like, well, you know, sometimes my client tonight just to get out of our headspace will

pull some cards from a tarot deck. Would that be something you're interested in doing? And they may say, no, thank you. I'm so scared. I mean, you're probably going to get some of those too. But I do think, like, just like taking, because like, you look, there's all these, like, unfortunately still to this day when most people hear, oh, I'm a witch, they think you're like some kind of Satan worshiper.

that is just the unfortunate truth so Eric and I are obviously like on a different page we understand that witches are like for the most part awesome people like right you know but um yeah healers man and so but I do think it's gonna be how you frame it

and I think you don't need to like I think like asking permission to try something experimental is also good like where are you at right now Kelly like talk to me like you know yeah I I like that

I guess my only small follow-up question would be like, how can I signal to people like, you know, with my, you know, content I post online or like my newsletters and things? How do I signal to people that this can be part of what I do, but it doesn't have to be without freaking people out? Yeah, that is a great question. Like, how do you start integrating this into the, like, into the about you portion? of your website, you know? Yeah, delicately and slowly. I think delicately, I think that is a drip-feed thing. I think, like you're going to say,

you start small and just, I don't think you would give it a label. Like, don't say, like, sometimes I will try hedge witchery on people. I don't think that's going to play really great. But I think if you say, like, look, sometimes to clear the air, we bring out a, you know, divider, or like some kind of form of divination. whether it be taro, throw in the eaching bones or a pendulum or even a Ouija board. Like, you know, I just, I think you drip feed it into your website and then kind of monitor the results and then you can slowly add on to that. You know, I wouldn't just go whole hog on it though right away and just like no graphics of you running a broom or anything like that or stirring a cauldron.

But perhaps, you know, do a slow drip for your main one. there is no reason you could not start your own burner Instagram feed. Burner Instagram feeds are not just for checking out what X's are doing. You could start your own Instagram feed. Perhaps it doesn't even have your face on it of like if I had a migraine issue, there's a whole lot of people that would want to deal with somebody that's coming with a witch background and stuff that's been maligned before but is now proven to be correct. I think there's a whole other lane or a substack that you can really kind of start leaning into the

which side of your personality because I think it needs to come out. I think that's part of why you're calling today is that you're feeling the pull. And I listen to stuff like that. And I think if you start a parallel or different kind of identity online with that, whether it's substack, Instagram, Patreon, whatever else, I think that there's a lot of people to be interested in it. We'd certainly be thrilled to have you on the Patreon if you feel like taking some calls

or starting to lean into that. We don't have to see your face. And then starting to build, in addition to the clients you already have, that you're coming from a dietitian-based, science-based practice, this other kind of science comes in. Eric,

I was just going to say what you said. Kelly, I'd like to offer this to you. If you would like to come on the Patreon, because we do some experimental things over there, and I think this is a perfect fit. What if you came on and we did some, like, kind of role play of things where Eric and I were clients,

and you, I mean, like, look, I got a million things wrong with me. I can also, like, I am a, as Eric will tell you, one of the best crisis drama actors known to man. That's really my first love. No, I'm just kidding. I'm kidding. He is. No, he's good. They love it seventh adventist. They hired me a hospital.

I guarantee you, what if we have listeners struggling with migraines? And to say we have somebody, we're lucky enough to know that can really help. And then you can lead with the witch there. Because people, they broke it, they bought it with us. If there are listeners, they're great with this. Yeah. You can go heavy wishcraft on it. Yeah, you can be the witch.

I love that. Right? And we'd love to have you. We're about to start a regular live Patreon show. and if you want to jump in and start to do some healing, I think it would really help people. And I think it would also be a way for you to start this new chapter in your life, kind of leaning into this.

Because if it's knocking on your door, you want to answer it. And you're being nudged this way. And I believe in things bigger than ourselves that are pushing you there. And for what you come and deal with Eric and I, if you want, if you feel like going to your local butcher and grabbing a large chunk of dry heath and putting, into a vet of water behind you. I'm not going to be mad at that, sister.

I'm not going to be mad. I'm sorry. Just for you guys, I will. Yeah, I also, by the way I want, but we need a dry ice team. I love their eyes. But there is. I have a friend that's into, people are scared. I had a friend who's into great music and Steve and I are big time into this band called

LA Witch. And they just played here. I'm like, buddy, I know what your soul needs. Come on down to Sid the Cat Auditorium in Pasadenae. He's like, man, I'm not. going anywhere near anything with the word witch in it. And I'm like, are you kidding? He's like, I don't want to be around witches.

What a baby. It was Pasadena parents that had to get babysitters to see LA witch. But this guy's so scared of the term witch, Kelly. It's interesting. This just happened. I see kind of what you're up against and why you're leery. And I think coming on with us is a great step toward that. If you come on, you be Kelly the witch and help people out.

And everyone's happier. And everyone gets to benefit. and it's the first steps toward you really walking in this. Yep. And you know, you know what's interesting, Kelly, is that I would say the vast majority of people who are practicing witchcraft and anything, anything in paganism are down south. Tennessee, Kentucky. I mean, you guys have this, like, really great, like traditional folk magic scene down south. And, I mean, I know Kentucky, for example, is, like, has the most pagan communities of anywhere in the United States.

you would think it would be like Southern California, not even close. Down south, they are much more experimental. So I think your likelihood of hitting success rates for clients is going to be really high. So I love this. I think you are so invited to come do a dry run on me and Eric's show. And we would, let's try it out. Let's see, let's, you know, and like it'll be a good practice for you to get some like feedback in real time before you, you know, potentially, you know, practice on our client.

it. Yeah. I would love that so much. I think being able to, you know, actually talk with people and try helping people. Yeah. With the side of things would be exciting. I also love the idea of, I mean, I already have a substack that I'm not using for this thing. So I can start using that. I love all of these ideas. Oh, good. I'm so, well, I'm really excited about this because I think, look, I mean, like, right on any, like, any, anytime someone's doing a job or they're helping people, I'm like, Bravo. Good for you. We should all be doing something like. that. But I like that you're experimenting with some of this esoteric angles on this stuff. I think it's great. Why not? Like it's also also it's fun. And like you can't put a

price tag on fun. Fun is a noble goal. But like I mean, Kelly, is there anything else you feel like Eric and I can potentially like, you know, help suggest? Like where are you at right now? You feel good or you still a little like, yeah, I don't know. Yeah. No, I'm, I'm feeling really good. I'm excited about this. I'm excited to, you know, hopefully chat with people and, um, start incorporating some of this in different ways. So yeah, I think this sounds great. Okay, so here's what I'm going to say. Listeners right now, listening,

if you have an issue with migraines, please write in, we're here to help at gmail.com because we are lucky enough to have Kelly is going to join us on Patreon and we want to talk to you and have you talk to Kelly and we're going to embark on this wonderful world

of witchery healing together. So if you, you are dealing with migraines, you're in the right place. We're all here to help, and Kelly's just the newest helper. So this is all happening, friends. It's all happening. This is great. Kelly, how do you feel?

There was, Kelly. I said it. It's spoken into existence. So just get ready to help. You're a helper now, too. Yeah, you're on call. You'll have a beeper up here at your front door, and when we need you, we will pay you. That sounds great.

And thank you for not telling Steve he can be cured by spaghetti. Finally, some honesty on his pod. I can. That's soul food, Doug. Oh, stop it. That gluten. I'm going to cure myself tonight with the nice red sauce. All right, Kelly. You see what I have to deal with now. Okay, Kelly, this is to be continued, and we can't wait to bring you on Patreon. Listeners, if you're dealing with migraines, we want to know because we're going to cure them with Kelly.

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