We're Here to Help - 95: You Won The Show with Brian Baumgartner

Episode Date: July 11, 2024

Jake, Gareth and special guest Brian Baumgartner (The Office) talk to callers about potentially finding a film of your parents and a boyfriend who only uses children's toothpaste. Later, the guys chat with Brian about his new cookbook Seriously Good Barbecue Cookbook and behind the scenes on The Office. We watched: THE VIDEOWant to call in? Email your question to [e-mail] (Early Access, Bonus Calls and Q&As): Patreon.com/HereToHelpPodVIDEO: Youtube.com/@HeretoHelpPodMERCH: heretohelppod.comINSTAGRAM: @HereToHelpPodTIKTOK: @HereToHelpPodIf you’re enjoying the show, make sure to rate We’re Here to Help 5-Stars on Apple Podcasts.Advertise on We’re Here to Help via Gumball.fm See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Podcast. We are Meg! Great guest, great guest. Great episode, great guest. First call, you said she wins, we're here to help. Well, you definitely became a game show host towards the end. I don't know what happened. She did, I don't either, we're in the hole

a lot of money after that. But she, it is. It's a fun one. Look, sometimes we get a call and we go like, okay, well, let's dig through this a little. Other times we almost have to thank them for what they've gifted us. I think that's correct.

And this is one of those. We didn't have to work. No, not at all. And we have a great guest. You know him from The Office, as well as he has a new cookbook out called the Seriously Good Barbecue Cookbook. His name is Brian Bumgartner. You probably, I mean, everyone knows him from The Office, but he's done a ton of stuff and he's a great guest.

Really funny. His chili story. He's got a great chili story. So we have two great calls with him. We have a great guest. Really funny. His chili story. He's got a great chili story. So we have two great calls with him. We have a great chat after. And yeah, like, I mean, we we've just been talking about this first call a little bit after excited to see where this can go for us as a show. And as usual, we thank everybody. We don't we're not going to delay this one.

Enjoy the show. We're not going to delay this one. Enjoy the show. We're not gonna delay this one. Enjoy the show. There's no point in delaying. You mean like just getting to it? Yeah. Without further ado. All right.

Hey. Hi. Hi there. Hi. Hi. Hi. Uh oh, that doesn't sound like Jake. You must be curious what the hell is going on, but first

What's your name age and where are you calling from please? Lindsay 40s and California great Lindsay shoe size. Yeah Can we get it seven okay perfect right? Well listen as you got Jake you got Gareth and you have very special guest. The guy who actually asked about your shoe size, the great from the office, Brian Bumgartner's here. Yes! Yes. Yes.

Hi, Lindsay, how are ya? Good, how are you? I'm doing fine, thank you. I like that you said 40s. Yeah. Which leaves a lot open to interpretation. Probably getting close to 50s. We're good. We're probably getting close to 50s. We're good.

Matt, maybe or maybe not. Maybe not. All right, Lindsay, what's going on? What can we help you with today? Okay, so I need your guys' help on an interesting way to tell my sister that I think my parents possibly made a porno at our green. Whoa.

Wait, wait, wait. No, it gets worse. Don't you tell us to wait. It gets worse? my parents possibly made a porno. Whoa. Wait, wait, wait. No, it gets worse. Don't you tell us to wait. Okay. It gets worse? Wait, at our great grandmother's 84th birthday party. Wait, wait, wait. You think they did it there?

So I have a box of these eight millimeter films that I don't know how they even ended up in my possession. I think they were probably in like a box of photos and then when I moved from my parents home like out here to the west coast they were just there and then over the years I would develop these eight millimeter films and I'd send them back to my family and we would like wow look at these films like oh look at us at the beach or oh look at us like at Christmas or whatever. So my mom passed a few years ago and my dad had asked you know do you have any more of those films like I want to see more of your mom whatever and's always a crapshoot on what's on these films

because we never knew. Like they're not labeled or anything. Right. They're just like, yeah, they're just like in these blue caps or whatever and you take them to wherever you can find to get them developed, whatever. And then you just pass them out

and you just wait to see what's on the film. There's no video or audio or anything. Well, recently my dad asked and so I got them out of our storage and I'm going through them and I'm like, okay, I'll send like another five in and get more developed. But as luck would have it for me, I saw there was papers underneath all these films and it was my mom's old handwriting and I'm taking a moment in and I'm like, oh my gosh, I haven't seen her handwriting in years. And I'm going through the papers and it's a bottom list of all of what, cause now we know what the films are,

they're all labeled. And at the very bottom, that's great. Great grandma Moore's 84th birthday. And then circled, it says X rated. Oh! Oh, we have visual evidence. Lindsay, this is a great call. Yeah, you have got the setup covered.

I am deeply invested. Oh, so am I. And I also have to get an eight millimeter projection, obviously, to help you out fully in this. You haven't looked at it yet? No, so as we speak, um, I haven't developed the film because again, it's always a crapshoot and I was like, you know What this is so good. I I Kind of do little things to my she's my older sister. So like I'll do little things

I've done it through our life, like all when I lived at home, I would mail her cards in the mail just to like mess with her and stuff. But I once told her that I had adopted a highway just to get her out of bed to help basically tell her that I had to clean up trash. Like I'll do little things like that. So I'm like, No, I'm sitting on this gold mine. I don't know what's on the film. I have to assume that there is something on this.

It's X-rated. This is really, she's not writing a note like this as a joke. So great. This is a note to herself. This is, it's amazing to be like nostalgic over like, mom's handwriting and then be like, oh God, they made up, or no! Well handwriting and then be like, oh god, they made up or no

Well, and then also your dad is like, hey, have you gotten those? Have you gotten the film developed yet? He's looking at this Yeah, this is what he wants Give it to a national treasure parents fucking Oh boy This would have happened before my sister and I were born this had to have happened like in the 70s Christ maybe $100,000 for the tape I'll go to honor. I'll negotiate against my fucking self parents in the 70s pre-kids at an 84 year old's birthday I'll give you $500,000 So Lindsay question for you $500,000 for first access at this date.

So Lindsay, question for you. What is, this is a perfect setup. What is the specific question that we can try to help you with? So I live out in California and my sister still lives back in the same hometown where my dad is. So we go back several times a year. My question is, how do I present this to my sister?

Do I have, do I develop the film and then have like a screening with her? Absolutely. Absolutely. With dad there as well, you just say, guess what? I got some of the old, let's sit down, bring the kids as well. Bring everybody in and just say, I got, I got, dad, I got some of you and mom's things. Let's screen it.

Let's see what happens. And let's see what happens. Hey, dad, this one is of grandma Moore's birthday. You remember that day? Hey, dad, you press play unless you got something you want to say, big guy. Well, let me ask you this. Do you, cause there's two ways you could play it. And both are hysterical and horrible. One is that you and your sister watched this together for the first time. The other is that you kind of pawn this off on your sister

and you say, look, I've been going through some of these, some of them don't, you know, whatever, there's an issue. Can you watch a couple of these just so we know what they are when we give them to dad and you let her go Off and almost like a child walking into like a slaughterhouse Just come back out white not blinking sick because not only are we talking about parents potentially fucking we're talking about 70s era pubes Not a problem

That's a horrible admission over there Jake Lindsay question for you Just cuz I'm trying to react. I would have watched this thing day one This wouldn't be my call would be how do I tell my sister? I've watched my parents have sex 100 times So I'm trying to I'm trying to relate with you on this one And are you nervous to watch it to see because you you'll, a porno doesn't go from zero to 100 miles an hour. You'll see the buildup. You'll realize... It depends where they cut into it.

I mean, it's at the 8... What's strange... Again, we are national-treasuring this, but what's strange is that it's at Grandma Moore's birthday. Yes. So, this could be a quickie. It's a bathroom? Yeah, it could be a bathroom. The idea of setting up an 8mm camera...

That's what I mean, the setup. This is not on a phone. I know, that's what's my initial point. Which means they're gonna, there's a setup. They gotta figure out lighting. Oh my God. So there's gonna be footage of either mom or dad looking at the camera. Walking away.

And then being like, honey, move this way. Yeah, yeah, yes. So what is your hesitation? Like, Zabruder. To, you know, get it transferred to digital or however you're going to have it or sit back and project it alone and see what you're dealing with? Have you done that? Where are you at on that stage of this game?

Okay. So, you know what? Honestly, I think I'm just going to throw my sister at it because I know hands down they made a porno. It's in my gut. Knowing my parents Knowing there's a way the show could help appetite. There is actually I mean there is Lindsey there are here to help Lindsey. There is a way the show could help

We don't want to throw poor sister under the bus. You want if you want Well, even then you could know what she's going into if you want full confirmation You gotta know what's on the tape. You gotta know we are willing to test market this bit of footage Now what do you do with it? Do you get you send it to a place to get it transferred? By the way that poor bastard like oh god. Yeah, I know you're on this is being like really gross It's not like a bunch of hyenas. You're the guy who said you'd watch footage of your parents fucking, I quote, 100,000 times. 100,000 times, yes. We all let that go. I need to leave.

And you're gonna throw the creep net on me? Yeah. How dare you, sir? Yeah, I would say this. I would absolutely- I have no legs to stand on. I have a sister. Before I, I would want to 100% know.

Yes. If for the only reason, to make the setup and the awkwardness for her way works, correct? But I will say this, if I was going to preview it myself, it would be through squinted eyes and my fingers, like blocking certain like, and I would, to your point, if there's gonna be some setup, I would hit stop very, very quickly. Yeah, of course. I think Brian is on to the idea that basically,

play it, get, the second you see a bare ass, you're pretty good to go on not needing to go any further into this. I agree with that. And then what I would do with your sister is I would say, hey, look, I want to make this really sweet for dad. So I think we should maybe cut together like a best of before we give it to him. That's fun. So you get her into a little area, you set up a sheet or however you want to broadcast this,

and you say, hey, I'm going to play this. Set up a sheet? Well, I'm gonna play this Like the nostalgia of it, okay, you know, you could really get sweet we could do a drive-in But what I would do is I would just set it up and when you know, it's about to happen I would say I'm gonna get a little more popcorn refill the skittles. I'll get some more mr. Pibb. I'll be right back Let me know if I miss anything or what do you think of this next bit and just go off and like your nuclear blast Is going off put on the glasses duck down and get ready for an explosion So Lindsay, what do you actually think are you are you gonna watch this? Are you gonna really just,

because if it's a pot off on the sister and that's what you wanna do, that's easy advice. Just send it to her and say, check it out. Knowledge is power though. Knowledge is, I totally agree with you. You have to know for sure. I agree with Brian. I totally agree. I agree, we're all in alignment.

Because what if, so here's, and part of it is, you have to enjoy the moment, which is like you need a camera. You need an iPhone on her watch. Yes, you do. Because if you don't know and you send the tape to her, maybe she's so awkward that she doesn't ever say what's on it. Kind of. I agree.

I think you've got to do it in person. And I think you want to have your camera set up. Yeah, I think Brian's right. I think we both do is there any world where you could get your sister and film her Watching and you're there like you're putting you go. I don't know what's on this either, but you have your phone and While she's watching you're a little bit off. So if you just pawn it off to her, it's just weird Yeah, if you're doing it where she goes like, Oh my God, what am I watching? And you guys crack up. Then you guys stop together.

Yeah. The thing that I will say no matter what is you got to get your dad this tape. ASAP. He deserves it. Yes. He, this isn't the thing he's been thinking about for a long time. Not only does he want to see his wife, he wants to see himself! Oh my Lord.

Oh my Lord. When he was in the 70s! Okay, I do have a question. He wants to see the old dog bark! Go ahead, Brian. I do have a somewhat unrelated question, which again is more just for fun. I'm not saying you have to do anything that changes it.

Is your dad now in a new relationship? That's a good question. Oh yeah, great question. No, and no, and he would never, so. He would never be in a new relationship? No, and since he probably is, he's probably like, I need to see this, like I, like, which takes like the 70s to him and my mom.

Like my mom was smoking hot. It is very sweet. Send me the text! Jake smoking hot. It is very J Yeah, it is very very sweet So I think but I think what we're all saying is you're kind of asking for how do you get the most bang for your buck? Or yeah, yeah, or you're asking. Do you want to know what's on because there's another problem. There is a world You send it to get digitized to rpo box yeah we do a follow we'll tell you what's on the tape i mean again lindsey we are

we could also have you and your sister we are definitely offering it up if you want a couple guys to jump on the family porn grenade say the goddamn word but if you want to just go to your scissor, we can pitch there. I just need to know what you want. Okay, if you guys want it, I will send it to you and you guys can have the first preview. They've got a lot of facilities around here. This show is always shocking. They can absolutely digitize. Never in a million years did I think you were going to say that. Now, Lindsay, this is what we'll say.

Really? This is phenomenal. It's a ph- listen. This is amazing. I think it helps you a little bit. It's not our mom or dad. No, no, no. We're just watching some porn from the 70s.

I will say this. At Grandma Moore's party. I'm willing to do a follow-up with your sister. I'm not willing to do a follow-up with your dad. And I'm willing to take your dad out to lunch. How about that, Lindsay? Well, why don't we do this? We'll set it up, okay? This is shocking. We'll get it out here, we'll get it digitized, right Kevin? We'll do all that. We'll be very safe with it. We'll make sure

it's preserved. Brian, you're welcome back. Yeah, we will do, we will mystery science theater 3000, this thing. Shocking. We'll watch it. We will not reveal anything, obviously. We'll tell you what's on it. And then there's a chance. We'll tell you what's on it. And then there's a chance that you can even follow the pitch that we were saying before, whereas your sister can see it, but you can avoid it at all costs. Or do we have the sister on too? And the setup for the sister, which we say on the call is, your sister found a tape that said, Grandma Moore's birthday, 84 year, X-rated. She didn't want to watch it. She sent it to us.

That combination of words is beautiful and now we're here to tell you what's On the tape we want to get it to your dad. We can send it to him directly Yeah, we can then get it digit whatever's easy. We're not gonna send him eight millimeter where he's got to set it up He'll get what we can he'll get a link. Yeah, what we What we can do is we'll we'll screen it We'll figure it out and then we could touch base with you again and let you know what we're dealing with and we can do is we'll we'll screen it. We'll figure it out. And then we could touch base with you again and let you know what we're dealing with. And we can go from there.

Is that what you want to do, Lindsey? Yeah, let's do that. I'll send you guys. You guys can have the congratulations. You guys get the first screening. Thank you. And let me tell you. Yeah. And let me tell you this, Lindsey. If we end up just watching a birthday party for an old woman in the 70s

We will sue you We don't do this until the end but Brian has written a cookbook there is a world that we take the cookbook We make a real meal. Brian, what would be the best dish from that cookbook for two guys? And I know it's specific. For two guys to watch other people's parents in a 70s, eight millimeter.

What are we eating in case we're just watching a party? You know, I mean, just to go for the joke, just a bratwurst. Yeah, definitely. I mean, just to go for the joke, just a broad word. Yeah, definitely. Well, well, Lindsay, listen, we'll, we'll get that plan moving and we will, we will get back to you. Yes.

Uh, you know what we're going to do? Let's send her one of these bugs. We're going to buy one of the bugs. We're going to send her the cookbook. All right. We're going to send you Brian's an eight millimeter. Yes. She needs to get something back. Absolutely. Yeah. Collateral. We'll send you her the cookbook. All right, we're gonna send you Brian's an 8 millimeter. Yes, she needs to get something back Yeah, collateral. We'll send you some weird out merch. You're getting a whole damn box. Yeah

Yeah, you are get your I think you're the first prize you are Lindsay I think it's safe to say you won were here to help but I didn't know it was a game show So just now to be honest Congratulations on win. So that's- Congratulations on winning. So that's what's going to happen. So we'll figure that all out. And then for the screening, Brian, you are more than welcome to come back and- Yes. Okay.

And be a part of that behind the scenes process. I love it. But Lindsay, we will help you with this. We'll talk to you soon. And we will talk to you soon. That sounds great. Enjoy, guys. All right.

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Yeah, cool. Okay, we're all impressed. You've done great on the name so far. Listen, you've got Jake. Shoe size, shoe size. Yeah, sorry, sorry, we got a new thing we're doing. Our guest helper does the shoe size thing. Can we get your shoe size, please, Buzzy?

Um, a size seven. Seven, okay. Very consistent. Seven, that's right in the middle. We're talking a lot of sevens today in the foot department. Well, you've got Jake, you've got me, Gareth, and you have a great guest today. He's got an amazing cookbook coming out, as well as you know him from the office.

Give it up for Brian Bumgarner. Welcome our guest helper. Thank you. Very helpful on call one. Yeah. So don't be nervous. You got a size seven. I think I like the office more than I like new girls too. Thank you for coming. Thank you. Now you've lost. We're here to help. Thank you so much. Busy. First caller won. Thanks for joining us. You don't have to pick but. No, I don't know, this caller might win actually. Yeah, I think she might be the winner. Really good. All right, Busy, what's going on?

What can we help you with today? Okay, so I have a really big problem for you guys. I've been dating my boyfriend for a little over a year and he's perfect except he only uses children's toothpaste. Oh wow. So he refuses to use any mint toothpaste or chew mint gum or eat anything mint because he says he has a mint aversion.

But I like the smell of really fresh mint breath and I'm trying to break him into mint and I don't know how or what to do. What does he use, bubble gum? Yeah, he uses strawberry children's toothpaste oh dear Lord wow how old is this guy busy he's 22 he's 12 what's the age of this 12 year old boy? I mean, what's his name? What can we tell him?

What can we call him? Oh, Thomas. Thomas, like the tank engine that he probably loves. Okay, so we got- Wait, by the way, Busy, can I tell you something right now? Your name is Busy, his name is Thomas. He's, actually I was making a joke, so I didn't hear the age.

22. 22. 22. Oh, so you're both 22. These guys are taking notes of everything that you're saying. Like they can't remember these just very clear facts. They just wrote down children's toothpaste. Like we need to know. Well, if you really want me to walk you through the process, Brian, I will say that what I've got here is BF, over a year, no mint, strawberry, Thomas.

So there's a lot of touch points here for me to keep track. I had that all in my head. But congratulations. Well, I think if we wanted to see who I don't have a notepad. smoked the most weed in their life, I would win by a mile. Not by a mile, not by a mile. Well, I don't know.

You keep babbling. Yeah, I would fight. I'm just saying, right, okay. Yeah. All right, thank God I have the notes busy. Okay, so. Me too. I have BF, can't read that. Taste-based.

He hates mint, weird dash. Strawberry, 22. 22 again is great. But not the name. Thomas. Not the name, Thomas. Okay, Bizzy. So your problem, just so we, why don't you ask exactly what your problem is?

I'm pretty sure I know what it is, but just to make sure. Okay. okay my question is how do we convert him to be using mint toothpaste? Yeah, I'm sure make gum. Yeah, so it's how do we convert Thomas? How do we get him away from little children's toothpaste in order to use adult toothpaste now? The obvious one here is there is toothpaste that's for adults. That's not mint There's charcoal toothpaste. Yeah other flavors. It sounds like that's not her problem though, right? You want mint? Well, she said how do I convert the I think that's why we wrote it down. Well, no But what she also said was she would like the minty fresh

Smell of minty breath breath. Well, but is it the toothpaste or is it you just want mint in his mouth? You want a mint mouth. Well, it's different things. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like a mint mouth. Like he doesn't have bad breath, but there's something refreshing about like a night. But does it have to be mint? And here's why I said he's saying he doesn't like mint.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Does he order off the kids menu? How bad does this get? No, he doesn't like mint. But the children's toothpaste smells bad. Yeah. Yes. Does he order off the kids' menu? How bad does this get? No, he doesn't. Does he sleep in a race car bed? Does he walk around in pajamas?

Yeah, I was gonna say, Star Wars pajamas. Yeah. And so I just need to be very clear with what we're pitching on here. Is it the toothpaste is an issue or do you just want mint breath or do you just not want the taste of kids toothpaste? You got to make it as specific as possible for us. If I had one choice, then it would be not children's toothpaste, adult

toothpaste. Okay. Okay. Yeah. That's easy. Okay. Yeah. Well, why don't we can pitch in the direction of trying to get them to mint it up, and if not then, like Jake's saying, I mean there are other adult options. There's an easy way to get away from kids toothpaste. What is that? I will not have sex with you if you use little boys toothpaste.

It is a turn off. I find it a major ick, it is a major turn off. When I'm watching you and I go in our bathroom, I honestly feel like I'm babysitting. I will put you to bed, I will read you a story, I will not get on top of you. You should get him a dinosaur toothbrush for like a six year old and just put it next to him.

A little bit of shame goes a long way in a situation like this. Yeah. Okay, I'm down with that. Put a little baby's cup in there, put a little toddler stand near the sink that he has to step on. Yeah, I was just gonna say a little step.

Yeah, maybe you wanna get like a little like a kid's potty for like next to the toilet that he can use from now on When he goes to kiss you go, oh, did you brush your teeth with little baby? Yeah. Yeah cute. I'm not turned on I do find it really cute. I Like that. I also think there might be Does he go to the dentist a lot? I'm normal about we're not bringing the dentist and I want to try it's a hard play But okay, I think you're right. Here's another one He tells him he doesn't like men Like you're in your 20s, there's other adult toothpaste that's not meant yeah

It's not like the mint game has monopolized all adult toothpicks, but it's that mouthwash It's that after brush mouthwash scent that is good. It's a it's nice. It's a reset Yeah, it gets you back and you're saying his breath is not bad, but it's but there's also you ever catch a whiff There's cinnamon toothpaste cinnamons a good play That's why I'm trying to get to the bottom of the question. She weirdly sounds turned on by cinnamon. Cinnamon. I'm not legally allowed to have that anymore. That's why I'm trying to get to what we're pitching at,

because if it's just the baby's toothpaste, we can shame him away from it. Baby. But it is, it's baby's toothpaste. And then there's a time where you become a big boy and you use grownup toothpaste that protects grownup teeth. It is strange. Yeah. And then if it's about, you don't like the like the smell the taste say like I'm not kissing you with that and then get him a

thing of Adult toothpaste that's cinnamon that he goes. I don't hate the taste of this cinnamon's good. The man doesn't like mint Why are we forcing mint in his mouth? But okay, do you do you think he's going do you think he's gonna put up? I mean he I my guess is he also really enjoys the flavor of these little kids toothpaste. Do you think he's going to get a little you're going to get a little pushback even on the cinnamon twist? I don't think I would get a pushback on the cinnamon twist, but it is annoying

that he doesn't like men because then if we travel together and I forget toothpaste, I'm not going to use his roast children's toothpaste. Is it busy? This is something you realize in a long long time. Yeah busy. He is the guy for you And also if this is the if you're if you're 22, I know but if you're worried like we're gonna go on vacation to Paris And I'm gonna forget my toothpaste and I'll use cinnamon. You can solve that problem in five hours Yeah, you can solve that problem at the airport So that's a very solvable issue I think I think cinnamon is the move.

The only other pitch that I had was, I was gonna say you gotta fight a breath war against him, which would mean you remove mint from your process, get a little stinky, and see what conversation that brings up. So Brian, what are you thinking? I like that. Where's your head at?

Well, and maybe I'm reading way too much into this situation. That's the whole premise of the show, go for it. Is there anything else childish that he does or is fixated on? No, no, no, no, not at all. Oh, okay, all right. He's a grown man.

He's a grown man, okay. It's just you want some mint. He's a graduate student, yeah. It's just, it's just you want some mint. He's a graduate student. Yeah, it's just that he has this weird aversion to mint. So would you be willing, Bizzy, because especially a 22 year old guy, would you be willing to say no sex until mint mouth? How much do you hate mint?

I got a feeling you're gonna like something more than your dislike of mint. Yes. Right? And then he's gonna go, like something more than your dislike of mint. Yes. Right. Yeah. And then he's going to go, I don't like the taste of mint. And you go, I don't care. Yeah.

Yeah. Put it in your mouth before we do this. It's fine. And he goes after three times, he's going to go, mint's fine. You know, there is, there is actually another solution, which is this, you, you, it's, uh, I don't know, is this like a torture tactic or something, but you get like really strong dental mouthwash, minty dental mouthwash, and you say

you must use this for the next two days. After that, the taste of mint. You're going to break it. It will be totally. The over-exposed. The deep end. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He'll of mint. You're going to break it. It will be totally. The over exposed. It's a deep end. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He'll swim if he wants to. Deep into it. Yeah. And then now you're like, a little Colgate's flying. I've been telling you. Yeah. I've been wanting to condition him into it kind of.

Yeah. Good for you. I, I like that. You know, Els, you, I mean, you could kind of lead up to that. You just say his breath's bad. Yeah. Just be like, look, your breath is bad. You know, you could I mean you could kind of lead up to that you just say his breath's bad yeah just be like look your breath is bad you know you're the only person who's gonna know that on a level like this so why not just tell him that unfortunately the kids toothpaste is just not working for that it's you have you have a grown man mouth and you're throwing bubblegum flavor in

it expecting to get grown man you're fighting an adult problem with kids what yeah yeah you brought bubble gum to a mouth war so here's where we're at busy you got the shame game where you tease him a little bit you got add cinnamon you go bad on bad where you just get your breath bad so he has to go like your breast things and you're like welcome to the party. Let's make a deal here. You do the over exposure routine.

And that is you get some of the most intense mouthwash you can and make them do it for a few days and then go, let's cut that out. Let's just use this toothpaste. You withhold sex. You say, absolutely not for big boys. Or you tell them straight up you got bad breath you have adult breath and your baby toothpaste isn't working. Bizzy we've given you some options what are you gonna do? Okay I think I'm going to go with trying to overexpose him with a mouthwash as my first attack. And if he refuses, then I will go with the, you're an adult and you need to use adult toothpaste.

Okay. Brian, what is your first? Great advice. I think, listen, you're the best caller that we've had. And the other one, the bar was really high busy. It was really high. I think Brian's our first guest to openly celebrate his advice. He was so like, It was really high. I think Brian's our first guest to openly celebrate his advice.

He was so like, yes. Chosen. Chosen. And so how are you going to actually, before we get you off, just because I'm curious, how are you going to pull off the overexposure? I'm thinking I will buy a mouthwash and then I'll be like, so here's a really fun idea I have. Let's take a video of us using mouthwash and like make up some dumb TikTok thing

and then make them do it. Mouthwash challenge. Okay. Mouthwash challenge. Yeah, like a little challenge, like who can keep it in their mouth longer? Oh, that's a fun way to do it. That's good.

Because we're pretty competitive. Is there a way to say in the challenge, it's a three day challenge. You have to do it every day for three days. Cause if he just does it once, I mean, yeah. Can you make it a little bit of a marathon by the end? Then when he just goes to regular toothpaste,

you've maybe, you know, broke it. Yeah, I feel like I could come up with something pretty elaborate cause he's not really on social media. So I could be like super elaborate and be like, oh my God, it's so trendy. Can you send us the clip? Yes, please. And we'll post it. Yes, for sure. Can you send us the clip? Yes, please

Cuz if we would love to post the challenge of it and then yeah We'd love to post the challenge and then potentially if perfect if he makes the move We could have you both back on to just do a quick follow up to see what his new life is like as a mint Yeah But the more grown boy you can get that challenge where he's got to like he thinks he's being really funny about how much he hates the mint Yeah, and he thinks it's about holding it. Yeah, right. He doesn't realize we're just I can be like, oh I have to send this like and I have to this challenge like we have to do this together There you go. Perfect. Well Bizzy keep us posted. Brilliant suggestion. And congrats to Brian on winning the call. And my favorite moment was this when you said it and goes like. Yeah he did like like in Home Alone

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That's rocketmoney.com slash help. Rocketmoney.com slash help. Hello. Hi, welcome back to the show. Can we get your name, your problem, and our solution? That's great. This is Lindsey. I had called previously about my parents who I thought made a porno.

Oh, wait, we never got to see it. Yeah, this is a strange follow up because we were where we left it was we were going to get a copy of it and we were going to screen the porno for you. Can conversion from film to video, Kevin Kevin, will you jump in, sir? What happened was I gave her Headgum's address. She mailed it to Headgum. Anya texted me, what is this? I responded, porn or an 84-year-old's birthday party. I grabbed it. What's the difference? I brought it to a store.

Depends on your Google search, Garrett. I said, please convert this. They handed me back this thumb drive three weeks later. Are you guys ready to watch the file? Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Whoa!

Whoa! Can I just say quickly, I kept thinking this is about to take a bad turn. Me too. I mean, relatively bad turn where we't gonna get be able to watch the parents porno Wow, are you ready? Lindsay's gonna be on with us? We're gonna Describe to Lindsay what is on the video that we are watching not if fornication starts to happen Oh, this is a great and Lindsay you did not know this was gonna happen right now No, actually, I I knew that I was calling in today and I've just been like,

wedding bullets all day. I'm like, are you, are you comfortable with this if we watch and describe what we see? Well, obviously I'm comfortable with you guys watching it. And, uh, I guess use a code word if, yeah, in occasion, let's happen. But let's have a code word I think that's a good idea. Why don't we say something like turtles? Okay, sure. Yeah, so the turtle hell because the turtle head goes in and out of the shell I hadn't thought about it that deeply

Okay, I don't think that's what I was thinking about. Maybe turtles a bad one now that I hear Jake's version of it turtles move slow But turtles it's just about getting the job done. I guess it's not a race. Oh Okay, I was I've been around forever. Okay. All right, so well if things start to take a turn we'll start to talk We'll just say turtles. Here we go. This is crazy. This is great. Wow three minutes Well, perfect length sounds like a jakeboard. It sounds like ten Jake porns What good it's just a couple couple lines a zoo couple lines at the zoo we're seeing peacocks This is gonna get confusing because if we see an actual turtle Turtles were the wrong by the way turtle. I love zoo footage on this eight mil elephant. This looks

Turtle the Rock call. I love zoo footage on this 8 mil. Elephant. Look at how great this looks. This was from the 70s, yeah? I would love to see that elephant with a big mustache on it. So we got the elephant. This is great. Just zoo footage.

Yep. It seems like, yeah, really. The elephant, there's a lot of elephant footage, but the elephant is enjoying itself in captivity. Oh, for three minutes of just this elephant, and that's how we end the follow- oh oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah either way by the way I'm not gonna lie I don't think we're gonna see your parents I don't really Gareth you don't go from animals at no hardcore sex and we've got two minutes now those are peacocks eating that's not a peacock is that? What is that? That's an ostrich. Ostrich. Good work Jake. Thanks. Going back to an episode where you an ostrich farm. I remember that. Still just zoo stuff.

Yeah, antelope. Just antelope hanging out. We should point out all these animals have passed away as well. No parents yet. Giraffes. Just giraffes. We're seeing giraffes chew. Yeah, so this is a real polar bear. A polar bear. We are really, unfortunately, we are getting very close to being able to say there's no turtles at the zoo. I mean, this is a real downer of a follow-up. This is a shame. How much time is left, Kevin? I mean, there's no porno. 20 seconds. We still have 20 seconds. OK, we're seeing. Wait, wait. So what did your parents write on this again? They wrote 85th birthday. They made me took grandma to the zoo. Five seconds to see some penetration. Nothing was written on that eight millimeter itself, but on there's like a piece of paper that

my mother had written out that was what was supposedly on every film. Well, look, Lindsay, we have good news for you and bad news for us on our show. The good news is that your parents, there's not a porno of your parents. No, not even close. That doesn't exist. The bad news for us. There's not even shots that your parents, there's not a porno of your parents. No, not even that doesn't exist. The bad news for us of your parents, guys, is that there is no porno of Lindsey's parents. We are watching 70s animals in a zoo is quite literally exactly the same as watching them now. Yeah, not much has changed.

You didn't even get to see like clothes change or like the backdrop. You didn't get. Yeah, no. Look at the way the way Pepsi cans elephant fashion is the same as it's always been Elephants are great trunks same so Lindsay You called in for a little bit of help. We did give you a little bit of help The tape is fine Lindsay. How do you feel about that? What do you you must feel relief? Yes. Yeah. Oh my gosh. I can breathe. Yeah. I'll give you a thousand dollars if you have footage of your parents. Yeah. Is there any other tapes you could send? I mean, we would love to. Can I get on the phone with him? Can I beg? Even now? Who cares? Yeah. Is there any way we

could maybe talk to your dad and try to just eek it out? He's got something something or maybe with AI we could make something. I don't know. I just Day for the show Lindsey. Where are you? How you know honestly, I'm relieved my hands are like still shaking honestly, though But there's like 50 to 60 more Yeah, not interested not interested Would love to get eyes on him. This was $85 to convert this I don't think we have that kind of money to be like another 60 the show sinks because we're just trying to find a porno

There's a little put thousands of dollars in an event who will see a silver back In the event that I'm developing means and we happen upon of course Lindsay you know where to turn you know what I will provide the full right yeah that's nothing would make us happier than to start shouting turtle so besides besides you know do footage that by way, we were so close to the perfect storm. Yes. If there was actual turtles. To have to be like, actual turtles, real turtles.

And then Lindsay has a panic attack and hangs up. Well. Lindsay, we appreciate the call. This was a fun one. And the trust. And the trust. We appreciate it. We wish so.

Now I'm so glad wish Handled my parents Porno not really porno, but new video With great care with great and if any if anyone out there has the predicament similar and they was like even if they've seen it And they just I mean we're just kind of hankering for watching some some people who listen to our shows parents pork So just let us know and last but but not least, obviously, this isn't about us. But if it were, how would you grade our whole day to help you if an A's an A and an F's a fail? And it's not a pass fail.

There aren't quite literal grades. ABC matters. What would you grade us and why, Lindsay? No, I'm going to give you guys an A+. This is great. Because honestly, the professionalism with the producer Kevin... Yeah, I drove home feeling like I was like making a documentary. Yeah, okay. So that's it. So Lindsay, we appreciate the call for us, for our listeners.

You've all been part of an A+. Everybody should feel good about themselves. Did we get to see her parents have sex? No. No. Did we want to? Yes. Do we still want to? Yes. Yes. no now we want to yes I still want to yes yeah well we always want to yeah yes well we probably end up you know going through other videos that she has in her attic somewhere yes yes I mean are we probably now instead of taking notes just drawing little pictures on our note cards of her parents whatever they look like doing it yes okay I mean is it all we're gonna think about for the next couple weeks? Yes. Yes. Okay. Are we going to get a weird Google search

later and clear history? Yes. Are we going to do it in a private window and still clear the history? Yes. Yes. Goodbye, Lindsey. Bye, Lindsey. Well, first of all, thanks for winning the show. That's got to be a good feeling. It is a fantastic feeling. Yeah, it's we love it. And OK, yeah, well, you have a cookbook, but you've written a couple of cookbooks. I have written a couple of cookbooks. And how did that start? I mean, obviously, people know you mainly from the office.

And then were you always cooking to this start once you kind of had a cushy Hollywood gig? How did it start? The idea of, I mean first off, yes. I do like to cook, but I mean, if we're honest, which that's what we're about today, clearly. Yep, candor. There was a moment during the office

that has gotten quite a bit of attention, which was my character making some chili and spilling said chili on the floor. If you haven't seen it, you literally are living back in the 70s. Still. Yeah. And so, yeah, so I, I mean, my progression was

at some point, I don't think I had ever made chili in my life for real. And at one point I did, and I was like, oh, like that chili reference from the show. I took a picture of it and people went just like, absolutely bonkers. And now, I mean, it has gotten to the point with that clip and the show's sort of resurgence or escalation. I can't post a picture of food,

not that I post a lot of things, that's not like, why aren't you eating chili? Like, where's the chili? Don't smell it. So we had a chili cookbook. And we did that and that was a lot of fun. I met a bunch cookbook. Yeah. And we did that and that was a lot of fun. I met a bunch of world champion chefs but this is really what I do.

Right. I barbecue, I grill. When I'm home, obviously I'm on the road a lot but four or five nights a week I'm outside cooking and it's what I love to do. It gives me a release for me. It's being able to focus specifically on something else kind of clears my mind.

Zen. Yeah. So I really enjoy it. So this is really a passion of mine and have met a lot of great chefs and have a lot of, got a lot of great contributions for the book and I've had a great time with it. So then when you moved out,

how long were you out here kind of auditioning before you got the office? Okay, so. Because you were involved in theater. Correct. A lot of that before that. Correct. So how did that sort of come to be?

So there was a lot, so I was smart enough to know out of college that the, like living on a sofa in a studio apartment in New York, out of college that the like living on a sofa in a studio apartment in New York, like that was not for me, like I knew that. So I started in Minneapolis, which was a town you could make money. It's a great theater, I don't think a lot of people know how great the theater town is.

At least at the time, I haven't looked up the stats since because I, whatever, but like second per capita in theater to New York. Great stuff. But it's really is, it's like. Well funded, and so I started there and then started traveling around, and really that's what I thought that my life was.

Right. Just a theater actor, I like, I never, and now for my podcast and stuff, I'll talk to people who had this passion for film and television or moving to LA even as a couple of guests recently, like as kids and all that. Like it wasn't even, I didn't even think about it. Like it was not truly like.

Do you think that kind of helped you in the long run in the sense that you were never even really focused on it. So it gave you maybe. Maybe. An ability to kind of lower the stakes because I think it is like when you are an auditioning actor in Los Angeles, these things feel so important. Yes. That may be.

Yes. I mean, for, for the, for the success that I had when I came out here, I think for sure, cause I was truly, even though I was older and had experience in the work, I was told the idea that I wouldn't get something or that once I got it, it wouldn't be a success. That wasn't, I wasn't thinking about it. I hadn't been through that. But I think, and I do think people sort of plant this

as a flag and people should follow whatever they want. So I'm not trying to sound weird or better than, but for me it truly was not about being famous. The fame side of it, the celebrity side of it, just growing up and going to college and studying theater. Like for me, it was like, I really love creating characters. Like I really love being in a live theater,

like feeling, you know, got my high was like off of that energy that was created there, like that was it. So I think that, you know, some of the things that have happened now are incredible and I'm really enjoying a lot of things, you know, playing golf or meeting certain people that I, you know, admire for one reason or another is awesome, but

I didn't get into it for that. So anyway, it's a long sort of like, um, way of saying once I moved to Los Angeles, I met the folks So anyway, it's a long sort of like way of saying, once I moved to Los Angeles, I met the folks on the office about three months after I got here. Oh, are you kidding? Crazy.

You went from Minneapolis to here. Well, so I was in Minneapolis and then I was, I was like a regional theater actor. I mean, I did some stuff in New York and you know. But were you working in film and TV at all or was it all in theater? No, I had done, no. I had in New York and you know. But were you working in film and TV at all or was it all in film? No, I had done, no.

I had my SAG card. Like I had done. Enough little stuff. A couple of little, yeah. A couple of little things. And that was part of it too, was like, well, I kinda wanna try this out, but I know I need my SAG card, I know, you know,

blah, blah, blah. So, I mean, I describe myself, and I don't know if it's accurate or not, but like kind of the person with the least money that had the largest storage of TiVo at the time. Like, so I just watched television. Cause I hadn't watched a ton of television.

I was like, well, if I get auditioned for this show, I need to know what- It's like ET. What is this? Like, yeah, what, yeah, like what get auditioned for this show, I need to know what. It's like ET. What is this? Yeah, like what's the style, what's the aesthetic, comedy, drama, like all of that. And so I had found this show called The Office, British version, and I heard they were doing it here,

and so I said to this manager, and at that point, I had gotten a couple commercials or whatever, and I said, this is the show to I need to be on this show. It's funny too because like if you if you are trying to watch network TV to be like what is the tone of like the English office and the American office broke the kind of mold for how you do deliver comedy it is actually it is a little more theatrical in the way that it is of it's much more subtle it's like yeah the comedy is bred out of the silences or the looks to camera,

which is not what the standard for like a sitcom was. Correct. Regular TV. No, for sure. And that and that was part of it. Like it wasn't. For me, like, oh, this is going to be a big show, because in fact, like at the time, everybody was like, this is a colossal error. We have this genius version already. Why are you remaking it? But when I heard they were doing it,

for me it was like, oh, oh, I get this. Like I get this awkward timing. I get this. Which your character is almost like, arguably like what the best at and like like your character Kevin really is at times there just to make the awkward even more awkward in ways. There are so many moments like I think that like the office bloopers go around so much now and I think like there is there are

characters on that show who are allowed to smile or break a little bit and it works, but you, the point of Kevin was almost to be the most stoic, like amp up the awkwardness. And so that must be hard, when you break, a take is kind of over. Whereas there are certain characters who are like, they can smile,

there's a lot of presents, you gotta smile. But Kevin could not do that. That must have been very difficult as well. Because the show is so funny. Well, thank you. I mean, looking back on it now, I think that part of the special sauce that wasn't, Alison Jones was the casting director,

her is a genius, so it's not to take anything away from her. I don't think that this specifically was intentional, but it was sort of the setup of the whole show that made it so. One was because the cameras moving around were all there all the time. I mean, you talk about number one on the call sheet may work 50 or 60 hours a week,

but everybody else comes in a couple of days. We were all there all the time. I mean, you need to talk about number one on the call sheet may work 50 or 60 hours a week, but everybody else comes in a couple of days. We were all there all the time. And what was, I think sort of not unintentional or no one has claimed that this was foresight was like, we had a few amazing standup guys. We had a few amazing improv guys. You know, we had like people from different areas.

And then, you know, and you watch the show and you can sort of, you, you can sort of see it like myself and the only other guy that I knew from the show, which was Rainn Wilson had come from theater. And so for us, I think it was much more like character creation, like different than who we are as. Yeah, we had rain on the show. And I mean, he is so different, obvious. I mean, it's like overstated, but he's so different from the character that he played. Yeah. But what are the other things you saw there?

So then you got like, Correll is an improviser. Yeah. So like Second City Correll, Oscar Nunez, he's an improviser. Yeah. And then you've got Corell, Oscar Nunez. He's an improvise. Yeah. And then you've got Craig Robinson, BJ Novak. They're really stand up guys. Yeah. So yeah, that was just a mix.

Yeah, that's interesting. And then you're all in a big scene together because you're all there. All of us are there all the time. So they're going around getting, everybody gets a shot at a single or a two shot. So everybody's kind of at a single or a two shots. So everybody's kind of sauce goes into it. But, and, and, and in addition to that, because we were all there all the time,

like it doesn't take years, right? It's more like weeks that you start. I mean, not to make like a cheesy sports analogy, but you start to know where people like to receive the ball. Like you know where the setup is. It starts moving much faster. You start to know who scores where. And who scores where.

And whatever we're talking about, where the best joke can come from, especially in an improv. It was scripted, but we certainly improv'd a lot. So you start to just, and the writers are seeing the same thing, because they're seeing us all work together. Who you have different chemistry with. And your comfortability, just as a team,

like you're saying. Who was the first person that you started finding real chemistry with? Because I feel like with sitcoms, we all build our characters off each other. Yes. Like I feel like once you're start going, you have an idea in your head, but then there's

somebody you're in a scene with and you're like, I understand my character more when you're next to me. Right. Was there somebody at first where you're like together we're starting to build a thing and now I really get it. Yeah.

I, well, so I'll answer that question in a couple of ways. I mean, first off, um, and I was lucky enough because I didn't come from, from improv. I mean, I think I'm okay. I think I'm okay at it, but I was with in the corner there, Oscar Nunez and Angela Kinsey and the three of us again, we were all in the same room for 14 hours a day, but we were a little sitting next to each other in the corner. And so there was that, there was a dynamic early on, which if you, I haven't talked about this in a long time, but if you, if, if there's a, and there's, there's fractures, there's

branches, but if you take like, if there's, uh, and there's, there's fractures, there's branches, but if you take like a hierarchy of, of stupidity in a certain like frame, there is a like Kevin to Dwight to Michael thing that happens. And there was a dynamic that we kind of liked early on, we didn't end up doing a ton of it, but where Dwight was to Michael, like Kevin was to Dwight, like there was some behavior between that.

And particularly in the like physical comedy, like not that we were better or anything like that, but that we were sort of used in that way. That was certainly it, but that we were sort of used in that way. That was certainly it, but I'll share something else with you that hasn't been talked about that much. I did talk about it on my podcast, but there was something that I never heard about,

which I believe I'm getting the title correct. You'll get the idea anyway, that the writers did, which when they were searching for B stories or whatever else on episodes, they had this little game almost that they played called unlikely duos and they would take two. And they were like, what happens if Pam and Kevin have this story? And what comes out of that? So you have some episodes with her and Ha. It's an odd couple.

Yeah. But then it's at such a richness of the world. Yes. That you find that there's something. That is so fun. Which I thought was just a genius idea. Like don't keep them separate. Like a lot of the character as well is like almost the,

like it's like an immovable character in some way. So it is like whoever goes with you moot like it's like an immovable character in some ways. So it is like whoever goes with you has the kind of be like kind of create out of this, like kind of stoic guy a little bit. Oh, no, totally. But I, but it's just such a fun game though. Absolutely.

But I, but to like, but also in terms of like broadening relationships and stuff, and for some reason, this example is coming into my head because she and I, there was some like weird pervy Kevin stuff to Pam early on, but like they found, they did one of these unlikely duos, I'm sure, when Pam was pregnant and she was like eating all of these meals and it was like second lunch

or I can't remember all the things third breakfast and they would like eat together. And so it was like the sweetness of like them getting along, doing this activity that they both enjoyed. And so what is a, uh, and I know it's kind of a hard question if you don't have one, it's okay. But looking back, you know, what is like a big clear memory that you get to take with you that you go like, like for me when I look back at like the show or different movie I'm doing, there's like a scene or a moment that I get to go like, I'm really glad I was there for that and I saw that. Is there one of the, is it the chilly moment? Is there a moment when you felt like either your character was killing it, somebody else was killing it, but you knew you were involved in a TV show that was important to a lot of people. It was really neat to be in it while also

doing it. Is there anything that kind of jumps in your head? Yeah, I mean, I mean, there's a lot of stuff sort of outside of it, but I would say that, um, there, there's, there's, there's a bunch, but the, I think for me, what I probably rememberably remember that people I've talked to don't remember as much, but the very second episode we ever did was this episode called Diversity Day.

And people talk about how the show developed and got better, which I think is totally true. Michael's character was changed. But when you look back at that very second episode, like it could have been one of our best. And I remember how, I mean, so this is, we shoot the pilot, we come back, we're doing only six total,

and we're shooting this episode. And I remember, I remember exactly where I was sitting and talking to people, and I was like, man, to your point, the way the show is shot, the timing of it, the pauses, people may not get it, but if they do, what we're doing here is special because at the time, comedies, you know, there were dramas like NYPD Blue in a way,

The Wire where they were talking about issues like race. And comedies, nothing. Yeah, totally. Since All in the Family, which is the seventh. So you're talking about, there's a 30 year stretch and don't somebody comment me, there may be an episode here or there, but that comedy was unwilling to go and talk about serious issues

in a real way. And there we were, like jokes that were like not easy jokes, like my favorite one, which I don't know, this comes into the office like could you do that today? But the character of Michael Scott turning to Oscar and saying, what is a term less offensive than Mexican? And Oscar's like, Mexican, that's where I'm from. Mexican's not offensive.

He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, but what is a word we could use that is less offensive? And just the idea of that and that and that people like this is the way that some people think. Yeah. And so addressing it head on, I was so tremendously proud, proud of that. You must have felt really like, like you're saying, like not knowing, like there was obviously people thought this show will not succeed in America. And then it starts to crush. That must just not only feel good for everyone's

like security and peace of mind, but as far as making the show, you get to amp up all that. How deep into shooting were you when everyone started to kind of be like, holy shit, we're like, we're gonna be on a fucking ride here. So it was, I mean, there's that, there's a real specific moment.

So there was, we got an order of six first season and then we came back and the press had announced that we'd been given like an opening 13 was not true, we'd been given six. We came back in season two and did six and started to pick up. And so that was 12 episodes, but this, we finished that episode in like September

and they hadn't aired yet. So we all like packed up our trailer and thought we're never coming back. And then we gradually started to pick up. And then by the, by, we came back, and then by the Christmas episode of that year, Correll won the Golden Globe, and it was like, they were giving us episodes

at like two or three at a time, and then all of that happened. We hit 10 million viewers, and it was like, okay, you can finish the season, and then like of that happened, we hit 10 million viewers and it was like, okay, you can finish the season and then like two weeks later it was like, and here's another one. And so at that point. It started. 10 million now is just such an,

it's so crazy to think of like that number now. I know. Even then that was like big obviously, but now it's like that is impossible. It's gone. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's basically, that's like live sports. We appreciate you coming. We've taken a ton of your time.

You're the best man. Dude, thank you so much. I really enjoyed it. And you crushed those calls. That was, that was very fun. The caller won the first one, you did win the second. Yeah. What a blast man.

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