Who Knows? Who Cares. - Logan's Bi Dream
Episode Date: January 27, 2022We discuss if we could physically push ourselves to change our sexualities, we would. ...
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well shit it's been a while it's been a little while it's been a very long time when did we
actually do this because i've had a long year the last time was when i was here for july we did one
with drake but then before then i don't really know we did the last one probably may or so march
or may i don't think it was may because i was super busy in may i mean i don't know it's been
a while we need to do more though yeah for sure it's not us is it us i don't know it's been a while we need to do more though yeah for sure
it's not us
is it us
I don't think it's us
is it me
it's not me
I think it's you guys
well you guys also went to Ohio
for three months
yeah look I was
I was down to bring it with
went to Ohio
and you just made a lot of money
and came back
so much money
I couldn't even
I don't even know what to do with it
oh man
it's a problem
I think we talked about that
on the last podcast
about how you guys were gonna kill it
yeah probably
yeah we don't like have to relive that no we don't have to talk about that on the last podcast about how you guys were going to kill it. Yeah, probably.
We don't have to relive that. No, we don't have to talk about that.
Yeah, that wasn't...
I got more value out of the lessons.
Yeah, that's what I care about.
I don't care about money.
You're a big lesson guy,
just learning about yourself and growing as a person.
Just really discovering me.
Oh, yeah, of course.
I want to know who is this man
that I'm walking around with all day.
That's good to know, though.
He's flourishing.
Especially at your guys' age.
Yeah.
Never too late, you know?
But it was a good summer.
It's been a while.
I had a really good thought, though.
I don't know if you guys want to bring it up now.
Well, I mean, that's why we're here.
We're here to just talk about random shit.
So this was my thought.
This was my hypothesis.
And I thought through pretty heavy.
And I've had people agree with me.
Not that that should sway your opinion.
Okay.
If I could be bi.
Okay.
If I could hit a button and be bi.
And you just were attracted to both male and female?
You would?
In a second.
How come you can't right now?
You don't get a pick if you're attracted to a man.
I don't think it's up to me.
You don't think you'd be able to get hard while looking at me naked?
I don't think so.
If he was blindfolded, maybe.
And you didn't speak?
Maybe, Bo.
Definitely not Drew.
I think if you were blindfolded and Andrew just was quiet.
If I'm waxed head to toe, hairless.
If Drew was waxed head to toe, face down.
Hairs down on the back. I'm blindfolded. to toe, hairless. If Drew was waxed head to toe, face down. Hairs down on the back.
I'm blindfolded.
I grab.
You have to be blindfolded.
I grab.
And I think this is a little Asian girl's ass.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
It's a little tight.
It's so small.
So not true.
It's just tight like a drum.
And you're like, oh, okay.
Tight, a little hairy.
Okay, I'm going to.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, I can work with this.
You're doing it, though.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
And I just go right from the grip to just the whole,
just in the same grip.
I'd be like, okay, okay.
This isn't bad.
So you would rather be bi, but what if you could just be gay?
No, I'd be bi.
You want to be bi?
Yeah.
Because we've talked about this.
Women just aren't that fun to be around.
I want double the options.
I want,
I want everything to be in play.
If I could be gay,
like if I could just find a guy,
like I enjoy hanging out with guys
way more than I enjoy
hanging out with women.
This is my other thing too.
So if I could be sexually
attracted to them too.
Yeah.
Same.
I feel like that wouldn't be a bad,
same.
I'd never leave.
It wouldn't be a bad thing.
That's what I'm saying.
Why?
Why go anywhere?
Exactly.
I have fun and nut
in this same spot.
And then you're like, hey dude, get out of here.
Yeah. I don't know who the fuck you put on
this football game. I want to play video games
with fucking Todd. Get out of here.
Yeah. Exactly.
I was thinking though. No, if you were bi, you would
fuck way too much. Imagine. Way too much.
Imagine. I think it'd be more one-sided
too. You would fuck way more guys.
Yeah. Because you would be trying to fuck girls and then like you'd put in so much work
to try to get this girl to do anything and then you'd hit up one guy like hey you want to fuck
like yeah i'm coming over oh not even that anything logan his sex monster mind desired
would be cool in the bi world oh yeah yeah it would women are a little more like conservative
and like oh well well that's because that's a little weird. Well, that's because it's hard to find a woman that just wants to fuck.
That's true.
So it's like, oh, no, I have to put on this persona of who I am because I like this guy.
I don't want him to think I'm crazy like this.
But imagine like you, like, I don't know.
Imagine like a girl's like, oh, my God, I don't like that sweater.
It's like, all right, bitch, I'm going to go.
I'm calling up Pete and he's going to suck my cock.
Like, whatever, I'm out of here that would be so great just to have that shit on fucking
anytime you were just uh just those nights when you're like oh fuck i just want somebody
coming over hey i'll blow you you blow me we'll get out of here
okay get out of here what do you guys think what do you guys follow no i 100%
agree i don't know if i'd want to do it well that's like the that's with your current mind
no yeah i agree with you the current mind but i feel like the idea that sounds great it sounds
great if i could fuck dudes exclusively no questions asked dude if i was like able to do it
and be happy about it oh it'd be so great you imagine like
calling discord over and then banging out and then leaving well you could do anything you want
yeah think about all the things you're down to do at this very moment what's holding you back
women yeah women that's the only thing holding you back yeah so if you had two guys together yeah it would get crazy man now i know what your guys
fantasies are about my fantasy yeah yeah well you mean you think about your fantasies obviously
they involve women but it's like you could have all those fantasies how about one of it we spent
if you were attracted to men we spent about on the table the table. Because if I told you, if we're gay,
if we're gay and we're doing it,
you could tell me anything and I'm like,
fuck it, let's do it.
Yeah, no, 100%. I'm down.
Anything.
Well, because guys think the same.
Yes, guys think the same.
Guys are like, oh shit, I have wondered
what it's like to have a whole foot in my ass.
Sex controls our decisions, yes.
I'd be down to try that.
Fuck it, yeah.
Yeah, let's swap, we'll do it.
I don't know a lot of gay people but i know um my mom someone my mom knows people always seem
like they have way more fun too well they don't care well imagine this though too so like i dress
a little bit out there sometimes right yeah girls can dress however they want and this is not a guy
girl thing but it's girls can dress fucking tight shirt little shirt little shorts everyone's gonna be like oh man this girl's
fucking hot and the girl gets to be like man everyone thinks i'm fucking hot right now not
that she's doing it for that but she gets she's doing it for that right she's fucking let's just
say let's say i'm doing it for me oh i'm just doing it for me sure yeah, I'm just doing it for me. Sure. Yeah, we'll let her have it. All right, cool.
If I could do that,
and I can walk into any bar.
What are you wearing?
I'm talking like a mesh t-shirt.
Fishnet shirt.
I knew it.
Fishnet shirt.
There's a gay guy that literally wears
fishnet t-shirts
every day.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Black.
He looks good.
He's good people.
Let me get a black
fishnet shirt.
Tight.
Tight black pants. Like leather pants. Like. He's good people. Let me get a black fishnet shirt tight. Tight black pants.
Like your skin's coming through the holes tight?
Just like it looks good.
It's sitting on you right.
You know what I mean?
You can see right through it.
Nice and light.
And it's like, girls are like, oh my God, what are you wearing?
Don't worry, it's not for you.
It's for him.
That sounds great.
You know what I mean?
I mean, you could still play that, though.
I could play that.
You don't have to go through with it.
I don't get the same satisfaction because I'm not trying to fuck that guy.
You know what I mean?
But I get an, I mean, it would be fun.
No, it wouldn't be the same.
Yeah, it wouldn't be the same.
But our lives would be so much easier if we were attracted to men.
It would be.
So much easier.
Yeah, no, I agree for sure.
So how about this is my idea.
We spin the bottle, okay?
We'll clear the table, spin the bottle.
One of us just has to commit to it.
But we were just talking about how it's not possible.
No, no, yeah.
We could just flip a switch.
Someone's got to do it.
You know, we've got to test the waters.
So spinner gets it done by who it lands on?
No, no, no.
Just spinner commits.
Hey, listen.
For the next month.
They've got to try being bi. The the next month you've got to try being by
the next month you got to try your hardest being by gay by two dudes at least in every video
whatever you watch something different just commit to it see if we could just change our
like psychology get gay little gay in you what do you guys think i don't know if i'm i'm down for
that oh i mean we're talking
about it sounds great right well it sounds great in theory how about this instead of in the bottle
but we'll just do it yeah okay deal yes 100 i mean he's obviously the most fit the most attractive
i think so too he's got the best shot of all of us yeah he does have the best shot yeah i do
gay guys are attracted to me yeah a lot well especially more than women sometimes i have like
a gay look i would say mostly not i just have like a gay like yeah he could be gay especially when your
face is like closely shaven you look a little more i look a little questionable yeah that's fine
which i mean i understand that it's not bad it's just because men have this idea of dirty is good
yeah exactly when you look overly clean you have caveman in your dna yeah like 98 percentile caveman
who does that i wish i had caveman in my dna Yeah, like 98 percentile caveman. Who does that? I wish I had caveman in my DNA.
I don't.
Have you seen this kid's thought process?
I mean, yeah.
We talked about it.
It's terrible.
It's not bad.
I feel like having caveman.
I get it done.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, you're a hunter.
Yeah.
You're going to survive.
Three word sentences.
That's all you need.
Don't overthink it.
Should we provide a little backstory that he has caveman?
Logan has caveman in his,
uh,
I did my 23 and me and I have more caveman,
94% more caveman than the population.
Yeah.
If you ever saw me,
which you would know as soon as he ate dinner,
the reason this is so funny is because over the summer,
Andrew and I lived together for like three months.
I think he talked about that.
The whole time.
He told me like this man.
The whole time he was like, Logan, I swear to fucking God, you're basically a caveman.
Like the whole time that was like, just like, I'm a Neanderthal person.
Like to the point where he like grunts when he walks.
Just shoulders overhung.
Just.
It turns out he was right that's hilarious who would have thunk huh 95 percentile of caveman you are i mean that's i mean i feel like not many
people probably have caveman in their dna from thousands of years of i don't know repopulation
i could have a little bit maybe i mean everybody has i'm
sure a little bit i'm in the top to be the top 95 is a lot that makes sense though it's so funny
oh my goodness no i can feel it too not not i can feel the k-man but it's like i definitely think
well that's why you want to fuck all the time yeah that's literally what they think it's like
fuck eat and sleep that's all it
is yeah i get done though it's true you get all three done yeah done by any means by any means
sometimes at the same time yeah you ever crush an ass and have like a burger and that in the other
hand i've never eaten and done have you no no way no shot you guys have done that i've never eaten
but while not even top you're you're saying this like you've done it no i'm trying to think
back while he's giving his answer i don't think i've ever i've never done that i don't think i've
ever eaten but i i could pin him to do it for sure i don't think i could see him sucking his fingers
good good the bag all crinkly and shit while she's just doing her best don't stop and logan's all i
can think about is damn i'm kind of hungry right now yeah no i haven't done that no
give it some time
but uh yeah no i would go up i would be by 100
no i think we we can all agree on that that's not like a controversial topic at this point
do you have like a
I like that we're in the time that we can talk about it though
and it's like normal
maybe 30 years ago
even 10 years ago guys were gonna like
talk shit to us
I can't say that
these guys we're lucky we're in this time
but now people are watching like oh yeah these guys are
these guys are woke
oh my god these guys are these guys are woke yeah oh my god
they're woke these guys are such forward thinkers so woke we are forward thinkers i love that that
term woke so sick we're woke well i was using it sarcastically no i know but but we are nobody
else does is what i'm saying some people don't know how i talk the definition that we're using
for woke is woke of yeah we don't want We don't have to want to rely on girls.
I don't want to work for anything.
You know what else?
This is my other thing.
So I've been talking to guys about this
and I don't want this to be
an anti-women podcast.
But it's okay.
That's not what this is.
No, of course not.
But this is my thing.
I talk to my other half
all the time about this
and she gets where I'm coming from. But she has my other half all the time about this.
And she gets where I'm coming from.
But she has her own perspective because she's a girl.
Yeah, of course.
So it's like, but my perspective.
The right one.
For the guys.
It's like, if we're not on our team, who will be on our team?
If we're not advocates for guys, who will be?
Yeah.
No one. Guys have to be guy advocates because, like, we don't, this is the thing, like, if you
move to a new city, you're not going to have a ton of friends.
You're going to have to try to find friends, and it's going to be hard.
Not that it's easier for girls, but it's also, like, somehow girls just fucking, oh, you're
a girl?
Cool.
It's just way easier.
Come on with me.
We'll just go whatever.
Girl it out. Girl it out.
Girl it out.
They can find guy friends too.
You can go out and guys will talk to them.
They need guys.
They're not really friends.
You can't go out to New City
and just meet all these girls.
That's what I'm saying though.
But if it's not,
if guys don't have guys,
guys don't think about taking care of guys,
even on a friend level,
who will?
No, I totally agree. but at the same time i think women's friends who they call friends aren't like as deep as like men's friends that's another
thing like women why don't girls have friends why don't girls have friends that's a big question i
want to know is like why is their their friendship so uh superficial yeah i don't their conversations are just superficial
it's they don't develop like deep deep relationships with anybody yeah like most of
the time when you like when you date a girl and you like know her friends a lot of times those
friends just like disappear oh yeah you're there exactly like you have somebody who's like actually
like kind of cool like they're like oh this guy's hilarious yeah funniest guy i've ever met in my
life i'm not even that funny i don't have to talk about fucking i don't have any friends anymore
it's like no no no no uh those dudes are sticking around when you're gone they'll still be here yeah
exactly exactly no it's definitely it's different for different sides i feel like women just don't
need that much to like to like like somebody or like to be attached somebody
100 like i talk to girls and i'm like okay she's not that fun and it's like immediately she's
already like into me and i'm like you don't even know me yeah you don't need like i'm not that i
mean i'm cool yeah but like but i'm not the coolest guy ever i'm not that funny i'm not like
but it's like oh my god i really like this guy it's like you're mediocre funny like a six like a six so it's like what what about me is so attractive to you no no no
100 you're so cool it's like am i he's had a deal with this recently dude a girl came up to him at
the gym asking him how to do an exercise that i put him on literally came up to me while i was
like doing like some nordics you like hamstring it's like nordics whatever and she's like hey
what are you doing and i'm like oh like you know i'm just doing this for hamstring she's like can
you show me how to do it and at that point i'm like i don't know if she's hitting on me but i
played it like she wasn't hitting on me i was like yeah of course i'll show you how to do it
you know ran her through the exercise like we're talking and she's like well what's your instagram
and i was like okay i literally said i was like oh so you're you're hitting on me right now and she's like yeah dude she literally two minutes later oh well you just give me your number too
and I'm like I love it I love it no you like it at first right and then she's like I said oh yeah
we'll have to work out sometime she's like what are you hitting I'm like obviously I'm hitting
legs like you know I'm doing that she's like oh I'm hitting legs too well, you know I'm doing that. She's like, oh, I'm hitting legs too. Well, duh. So then we're working out together.
What's her attractive level?
Uh, she's like a seven.
I didn't think she was ugly.
She's not ugly.
I don't remember what she looks like in person though.
Was she built?
My problem with women.
Was she built or no?
She was thick.
Yeah, she's built.
She's a gym girl.
Not as good as it could have been.
She definitely could have been in better shape.
Ouch.
She can work out more.
I'm just being.
That's what it is.
I'm being objective.
I'm being objective. She's saying the same thing. I can improve myself.. I'm just being, I'm being objective. I'm being objective.
She's saying the same thing.
I can improve myself.
She's saying the same thing
about you, Bo.
It could be better.
Yeah, exactly.
It could be better.
I'm not,
I'm not in disagreement
with that whatsoever.
not much better though.
But next thing you know,
not much better.
You're right.
This has big enough.
Next thing you know,
we're doing like leg press
or something and she's like,
oh, have you ever seen Venom?
And I was like,
oh no, like how was it?
Was it good?
And she's like, oh no, I've never seen it. We should like oh no like how was it was it good and she's like oh no i've never seen it we should go see it we should go see it this girl's
got dude i met this girl at the gym we're talking we go to the movies she stayed over at my house
and then it was just like she she was all in a day how did it end all in a day it ended by me
being like okay we it was one of the worst night experiences i've had in my life i don't know how
you guys are with women i cannot sleep with women aren't like I've had in my life. I don't know how you guys are with women.
I cannot sleep when women are in my bed.
I can't sleep well.
It's shitty for me.
I don't like it.
Oh, sleep.
I can't sleep.
No, I can't fall asleep.
And she was just snoring.
She said she had allergies.
Nothing.
What?
Yeah, nothing.
She's sleeping in your bed without...
She's sleeping in my bed.
Get the fuck out.
And I was like trying, you know.
I wish I could tell them that. I don't know. I'd be like, was like trying, you know. Dude, I wish I could tell them that.
I don't know.
I'd be like, hey, listen, you gotta go.
You know, I would, you know, put my hands.
Hey, I got early morning tomorrow.
We kiss for a second, she pulls away, and I'm just like.
All right, well, I'll see you later.
I wish I could say that.
Oh, no.
But I went through a whole night of just torture.
And then she rolled over at one point.
Dude, her snoring was so bad.
She said she had allergies, but I don't know.
I don't know.
Year-round allergies.
I think she was breathing through her mouth at one point,
and she rolled over.
She rolled over, and her mouth was just open,
and she was just breathing in my face.
It was, oh my God.
The whole time I was there.
Hold on, hold on.
She approaches you.
She gets you to go on a date that day.
I'm so, like, I can't say no. I don't know how to go on a date that day. After working out with you, right?
I'm so, like, I can't say no.
I don't know how to say no.
We all know this guy.
He's got the same name as you.
He had a whole cycle.
Have you guys watched Sunny in Philadelphia?
Yeah.
I haven't, but I've been told I need to.
Have you seen the dentist system?
Is that involving his memoirs?
He has a whole system where it's like,
deny all these different things.
It sounds familiar.
So my guy, he has his own system and it's three dates in one night.
Okay.
Three dates is what you need to sleep with someone usually.
In one night.
In one night.
So how he did it was he would take them three places.
Okay.
So that way it felt like you went on three dates.
So you'd be like, my god. I know this guy
so well. I saw comedy with him.
I went dancing with him and I went to a new
like cool area with him.
Those are three different places. Three different
dates. Basically in the same night. So he
seals the deal on the first date. It's a lot of work.
It's kind of crazy.
It is crazy. It's crazy.
But women like that.
Women like that. They don't like it.
They know if they like,
they're psychologically tricked.
You could do whatever you want.
I,
and they're going to like,
if I've ever gone on a first date,
I could close it the first day.
A hundred percent.
Cause I do something like this,
but I didn't know.
That's because you're in sales and you're just like,
I could close this deal.
You're making a man from like a whole nother standpoint.
You're like,
yeah,
this one's a lay down.
Yeah.
A hundred percent. A hundred percent. But it's like, it. This one's a lay down. Yeah. 100%.
100%.
But it's like,
it's because we do stuff like that
where we move and go different places.
I didn't realize that's what we were doing.
You're just not a boring person.
Exactly.
So it's like,
by this time,
by 1230 or 1 a.m.,
it's gonna happen right there.
100%.
I don't have that in me.
Not that I want to.
Yeah, you do.
Like, you know what's funny too is I actually like saying no.
Because then it just builds it more.
You know what I'm talking about?
What if you don't get the opportunity to say no?
Well, that's on you then.
That's on you for not building that.
You got to build interest.
Okay, you might be right.
I have 150% like gone through the whole thing.
Like, it's like, I'm like, you know,
like we're making out hard,
like kissing down.
Yeah.
I was trying to get to that point.
Like I'm about to like,
yeah.
And then you,
you know what I'm saying?
I like that a lot.
I'm about to do it.
And then I'm like,
ah,
just kidding.
Psych.
I shouldn't do this.
Maybe,
maybe tomorrow.
Maybe,
maybe it's not a good idea.
Yeah.
Well,
let's just wait.
That's good.
That's so good.
They eat it up. Oh my God. 100%. Why have I never. That's good. That's so good. They eat it up.
Oh my God.
100%.
Why have I never thought of that?
It's so,
and like,
you're stupid.
I'm not the smartest.
But then it's like,
but then it's like,
oh yeah,
like this guy,
this is it.
He's the guy.
And then like you do like the next time,
whatever happens happens or then you just like talk to him.
Like the day after,
if you want to keep talking to him.
Right.
But like,
that's kind of how it goes.
And then it's like the next week you guys meet up again.
But you said you're closing on the first night.
Oh,
I could a hundred percent.
Okay.
So you could,
but you're choosing not to build up to the suspense and the tension a little
bit.
I've only closed on the first night,
but it was a long,
it was,
Andrew was there.
It was a long,
that was a, it was a long night or it was a, it was a long it was andrew was there it was a long that was a
it was a long night or it was a it was a long that was a long build-up like too much build-up
no that was just like that was the first time i've ever caved as far as like like you just gave
in you're like fuck yeah yeah you know you're not plugged in yeah i don't hear you i know what you're not plugged in. Yeah, I don't hear you. I know what you're talking about.
Andrew was there for that.
He saw it.
How long ago was this?
Two years ago.
Like two years and four months.
Why do you know that so accurately?
Well, I know there was a specific date.
It was a very big event.
For all of us.
Yeah, I know that.
For all of us, it was a really big event.
Okay, now I know. Okay, I understand now. What was I going to do? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I know that. For all of us. It's a really big event. Okay, now I know.
Okay, I understand now.
What was I going to do?
Yeah, exactly.
I'm just a man.
We're men.
Yeah.
We're men at the end of the day.
There's only,
like we can only say no so many times.
Yeah, 100%.
Until your caveman DNA comes out
and you're like, fuck this.
Wait a second.
We need a baby today.
You know what's something really funny too that I found out Is that if you are in a
Cut
Like you're cutting weight
You're not wanting to fuck
And this is why
There's a genetic reason why
If your body is saying
Hey you're in a deficit
You're not eating enough food,
why would you add another mouth to feed?
Genetically, your body knows that.
You don't need another mouth.
That's the science behind it?
You don't need another mouth to feed because you can't feed yourself enough.
So if you try to like procreate, it's not good for.
That makes sense.
That's basically what it was.
That makes sense.
I was in a fucking brutal cut and I had no sex drive. No, yeah. yeah people don't understand and that's like a known fact is like if you're in
like a super like you're not eating very many carbs you're not much you just have no sex literally
was a monk i was like i don't really i'm good i don't need to have sex like at all i'm fine
i'm fine i promise i'm good and I thought there was something wrong with me.
I got my test done.
I got my blood work done. I was like,
something's wrong with me.
And then it turns out, no, man.
You're just shredded.
You just look too good.
And you can't give that up.
It's about me first.
I was in a permacut for the first
18, 19 years of my life. That never
bothered me.
I think it's different when you're younger though. I think when you're 16, 17, your hormones are going to take over no matter what.
100%.
I can't believe how much sex I had when I was like 14.
I can't believe I missed out on all this sex I could have had at 14.
I was.
I jacked off so much.
Like I, it was like.
So much.
You're disgusting. Like now like. So did you. You were having sex and also jacking off. I was. I jacked off so much. Like I, it was like. So much. You're disgusting.
Like now like.
So did you.
You were having sex and also jacking off.
I was not.
I wouldn't do any of that stuff.
When I was 14,
15,
I could jerk off three times that day and have sex easy twice.
Oh,
I'm sure.
Easy.
Like no,
no problem.
You are a monster though.
Yeah,
it's true.
You are a monster.
And like,
it was like,
oh yeah,
like I pre-gamed so that way i could last for an hour
and a half here intentionally oh yeah really oh yeah like right before you left you'd go
i mean probably yeah 100 like like if i wasn't gonna do it twice right before i go but i'd do
it once just to make sure i got the venom out yeah you're like okay you're like okay we're in it
i get to enjoy this for however long. You're numb.
You know what's so funny though too?
Is like,
it took a while for them to like,
like obviously get me off.
To where it was like,
it's got to backfire sometimes.
I don't think so.
Not,
not then.
Maybe now,
maybe as an adult.
Maybe.
Yeah.
Maybe as an adult,
but like then women are just so insecure.
They're like,
why?
That's what I'm saying. That's the backfire. Like shit like this is on me i didn't care he doesn't love me i didn't care it wasn't my problem you know how much harder they're gonna try
yeah i'm gonna try so much harder yeah no i i get it i get the science behind it it's just i would
suck to be on the other end of it yeah but you're not i didn't have that brain yet oh true yeah it was only me you know what i mean but that's i mean that's just
how you're wired i was 15 what do you want it's me it's me yeah i i'm what matters but that's the
thing though is i was not i was i was bustling my load before bustling yeah who came up is that a
is that a new term i was getting rid of my seed before. So that way I could perform for them.
But I didn't realize,
oh,
that means they're going to have to perform
three-fold for me.
Yeah.
It was great.
It's a fair trade-off.
I feel like it's a fair trade-off.
It's hard to find that medium,
you know?
Yeah.
It was great though.
I had no problem.
I have no complaints but yeah
it took it took a really long time for them to like ever even get the job done and when
they figured it out finally it was like oh i have three years to make up for
like now that i found you know the tickle spot now I know how to just do it every time.
So now I'm going to, yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
Then you weren't safe.
You couldn't pregame at all, huh?
No, I could.
It was just when it came down to crunch time, I was like, okay.
We're both good.
We're both good.
Cool.
Let's do it.
That's right.
Parents are coming home.
I'm 15.
Do that one thing.
I'm going gonna close my eyes
and think
was that you
you were
you know you had a thing
I was one of those
TikTok
like I saw a TikTok thing
where it's like
guys think about
other things
to
I feel like women do that too
this is the thing though
I bet I'm not
I want girls
this is my thing
I'm gonna be so sad
I want whoever I'm with
to think of the hottest person
who's fucking them so we can get this thing going
I don't care if it's me or not
because you're fucking at the end of the day
I'm having sex with them
if the guy that you're thinking about is a 6 foot 5
ripped black guy
it's true
if you're just there to fuck you can think about whoever you want
that's way different
because I'm here for one reason.
Yeah,
but that's for me.
Yeah.
You can think about
whatever you want.
Terrible.
Well,
this is just how men think.
I'm not lying.
Yeah,
no.
People just don't want to talk like that.
I'm just sick of being made out,
or sick of being,
you know,
made out to be the sex monster
that you guys pin me as.
No,
you are though.
But why do you always
have to bring that up? I wasn't even even gonna bring that up at all and you're
the one that brings it up about being the sex monster this guy is the worst person i know so
he's not sure he's he's the worst guy yeah but he tries to disguise himself as a good guy oh no i'm
yeah like own it own it no i'm own it right now i'm literally an angel saying you some you're so
good with your words
that you convince women
that they're in the wrong
and that everything you did to them
was their fault.
Yeah, that's true.
And then they think like,
oh, I just wasn't good enough.
No, you're just a piece of shit.
He's a bad guy.
Yeah, you're just a piece of shit.
You think they're good enough?
Be honest.
Probably not.
Be honest.
I mean, it depends on what sense.
You know me.
I deserve what?
The absolute best, bro. I mean, I don't know. Nothing less. I don't think depends on what sense. You know me. I deserve what? The absolute best, bro.
I mean, I don't know.
Nothing less.
I don't think so.
Nothing less.
I think Drew should settle really soon.
Very soon.
Yeah.
How much fun do you two have with me?
A lot.
A lot of fun.
A lot of fun.
Okay.
Yeah.
We wouldn't be friends if I didn't enjoy hanging out with you.
If this guy had just any more ball in his bag,
any more ball in his bag,
as far as just going to talk to a girl.
Yeah, that is very true.
Yeah, I don't like that.
I'm the same way.
I'll agree.
But this is the thing.
We need to break that habit
because those actions are not going to get you that hot girl at the bar.
Very true.
You're going to get the six that comes up to you
that for some reason has way more confidence
than the 10.
They have to though.
They have to have the confidence.
That is so true.
They have to because they will not.
Nobody's going to go up to a six.
No one's going to feed that mouth.
No one will feed.
You know what my favorite line is?
A closed mouth doesn't get fed.
That is so true.
So, you know, maybe that nine or that 10 will get fed.
She's getting fed regardless. Regardless. That's how I feel. I'm going to get fed sometimes. You know, maybe that nine or that ten will get fed. She's getting fed regardless.
That's how I feel.
I'm going to get fed sometimes, you know.
I don't have to go up to every woman.
You're that six.
No, I don't have confidence like a six.
I wish I could.
With that confidence.
Imagine you say, hey, listen, what are you doing right now?
Who are you here with?
And they're like, oh, well, I'm with my friends.
Like, oh, cool.
Well, I wanted to meet you.
It's so much easier said than done.
I know it's...
But I know I just need to do it.
Same thing with him.
We've been out together all the time.
Once in my life, I've done it.
We know a guy.
We went...
This summer, we were with a guy.
He's a really chill dude.
He's probably like 5'9",
100...
Why is that important?
130 pounds.
Okay.
He's not a big dude.
Not a big guy at all. He's not a super handsome guy. Okay guy he's not a super handsome guy okay he's not confident he's not anything he's just a guy
right okay he just talks to a girl while walking past us just just hey what are you doing i know
he goes home and just gets topped off oh i know that you're talking about he gets
double topped off,
and then he sees her again before,
and then just, oh, all right, that was cool, I'm out.
And this is both.
You versus this guy, it's lights out.
You're pitching a shutout, right?
Nope.
Oh, I thought you pointed to Andrew
like it was me versus him.
No, no, no, no, no.
We don't have to go there.
Either one of you guys, like pitching a shutout versus this guy, right? But this guy just says, hey, no, no, no, no. You go there. Either one of you guys, either one of you guys talk like pitching a shout out versus
this guy.
Right.
But this guy just says, Hey, what's up?
Yeah.
It's that simple.
He actually does it.
He just does the damn thing.
And he is, he's for him.
He's feeding him.
He can have at it.
Cause I'm not doing it for him.
I really, I don't want to give women the satisfaction.
That's my thing.
Okay.
You, what you just said.
Yeah.
So that's my thing.
I'm too hot. Women just, yeah, they take take it like i'm too hot to give a girl that gratification
i don't like that i won't do it that's my thing i'm like no no no because then they know they
have you at that point i agree i don't like that i'm in the same i want them to work for it i know
but it's not gonna happen it won't it happens no it happens to me yeah girls who breathe in your mouth while you're sleeping that's who it happens with it's just not as often it's not going to happen. It won't happen. No. It happens to me. Yeah, girls who breathe in your mouth while you're sleeping.
That's who it happens with.
It's just not as often.
It's definitely not as often as I would like it to be.
But every once in a while, you know, isn't that great?
Of course.
That's my thing, though, is I don't want to give the girl the power of knowing that I want.
I think she's hot.
I know.
100%.
I feel that.
But it's like, fuck this game.
Where's Todd?
You know what I mean? Why guess? Yeah. A hundred percent. I feel that. But it's like, fuck this game. Where's Todd?
Why guess?
Yeah.
Let's just stop talking about it.
Let's just do it.
You know what I mean?
A hundred percent.
Yeah, that's exactly how I feel though.
I don't want to, I don't want a girl to know that I think she's hot.
Especially a girl you just met.
You know what I mean?
It's like some random girl.
It's like, I don't want to just give her the satisfaction immediately right now.
Like, oh, I'm in complete control.
Yeah, exactly.
I don't like that. He wants me so bad.
Whatever I say goes.
It's so annoying.
I mean, that's how it is, though.
You just got to.
Well, especially nowadays, because like the women that I'm attracted to, they're pretty hot.
That's all they hear all day.
Yeah.
They have guys talking to them all day, especially with social media.
They get DM'd all day.
Oh my God.
You're so.
Oh yeah, 100%.
Let me see your feet.
Dude, the shit I see, the girls like.
I wish I was a guy with feet so bad.
Dude, I would sell out if I was a chick.
Oh, 100%.
Oh, you want a picture of my feet?
It's so easy.
Oh, done.
20 bucks.
Here you go.
Why wouldn't you?
I would.
No, but like.
Why would you not send a picture of your feet if some guy's going to.
I'd do it now if a dude hit me up now.
Yeah.
As a man.
They're getting more than $20.
I promise you. Oh, you would. A lot more more i would do it for a couple bucks yeah i know my feet sure it takes me two seconds i know a girl she was like like a guy like she started her own foot thing
she like did the research is like okay how do you find people who are into feet okay so you go on
omegle you go on there's like there's like three or four things though like you could just like
literally you could start your own fucking business like that. Literally start a business.
So like a guy texts her once a day or like fucking,
Hey,
so like send me a picture of your feet.
Or it's like,
Hey,
send a picture of your feet.
Who are these men out there?
Send a picture of your feet with ketchup all over it.
And then have your dog lick it off.
25 bucks right now.
And it's like,
Oh my God,
I would do that in a second.
I would put,
I don't know how I catch up on my feet.
I would,
I would,
I would,
I would do that.
I would do it. I mean, I would do it, but not for on my feet and my dog I would do that. I would do that.
I mean I would do it
but not for $25.
That's just like
a little bit of an inconvenience.
That's $25 for a table spoon
of ketchup.
Now I have to clean up the ketchup.
Oh shit.
My dog will clean it up.
Yeah your dog will clean it up.
Well there's going to be splatter
like you know
you're going to get ketchup
on some things.
She'll get it all.
Binks got a crazy
crazy appetite.
She does got a wet mouth.
Isn't that crazy though?
She was just looking at me.
Yeah.
What do you want me to say?
I don't know.
Not that.
She's a good dog. She's a at me. Yeah. What do you want me to say? I don't know. Not that. She's a good dog.
She's a great dog.
Yeah.
She all right.
She's a good looking dog.
I 100% would sell my feet if anybody wants to.
I would sell them in a heartbeat.
There are a lot of things I would sell.
Feet are easy.
Why are you like as a woman, what about taking a picture of your feet is like sexual?
It might be to the guy, but to me it's like it's my fucking feet.
I wish I was into like everything,
dude.
I wish nothing was off the table.
So bad.
I wish I could be literally into all of it.
I don't know.
You would be the one guy
would be like,
oh yeah,
whatever he wants.
That's not a good idea though.
You don't want to be that guy.
You don't want to be the guy
asking for feet pics.
No,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
but like I'm saying like,
but if you were into everything,
you would be asking for feet pics.
No,
I don't think so.
I wouldn't.
I disagree.
I already,
I could get any of it. I could, I could have anything just about. Just because you're into it doesn you would be asking for feet pics. No, I don't think so. I wouldn't. I disagree. I already have, I could get any of it.
I could,
I could have anything just about.
Just because you're into it
doesn't mean you need it.
But you want it.
Maybe,
but you'd be cool
with other shit too.
Yeah,
but at the end of the day,
as with anything,
you're going to get everything you want
and then you're going to be like,
you know what?
I haven't,
I haven't seen feet pics in a while.
I really want this.
I wish I was,
you know,
it always gets a little more and more.
So if you were into feet, you're going to find a way to get that.
I feel like feet's a bad example because that's way too common for a fetish.
I don't understand it either.
I don't get it yet.
I've never looked at a woman's feet, but my brother does say women's feet will tell a lot about who they are as a woman.
How they take care of themselves.
How they take care of their feet.
100%.
Which I've noticed because I've seen some really ranked feet of yes yeah and then i realized i'm like she is a
hoe like i probably gross i don't know if you see like dirty feet and you're like oh god she doesn't
take care of herself at all she does not wash yeah daily at all that sucks i've never been around
dirty feet you never that's a good thing well no yeah it's just a girl's i'm not saying these are women that i've been like i've been with but i've seen girls in their feet. You never? No. That's a good thing. Well, no, it's just a girl's feet tells you a lot about it. I'm not saying these are women that I've been with,
but I've seen girls in their feet, and I'm like, hmm.
Yeah.
If she's not taking care of that,
maybe she's not taking care of other things.
Yeah.
I don't know.
No, I think that's a good correlation.
I mean, I wouldn't say I'm into feet,
but I can appreciate a good-looking foot.
I think girls who do, like, sports and shit are probably like the most down because they know how to work hard.
Most down for what?
Anything.
Anything, whatever it is, they're going to work harder than the average cat.
Like if you date a girl who's like never done anything, she's just like, oh.
Like a student.
Yeah, like a student.
Yeah.
Does nothing. What? Right? Okay. Versus a girl who's like an athlete. done anything she's just like oh like a student yeah like a student yeah does nothing right okay
versus a girl who's like an athlete the athlete has to work hard she's put in that that extra 10
percent on top of the 100 she puts it work have you guys have you guys ever been with i haven't
been with like anything like that before which goes against your is that is that your explanation
yeah okay well maybe not but like and that's the thing too i have other counter examples where like that before, which goes against your, is that, is that a counter example?
Yeah.
Okay.
Well,
maybe not,
but like,
and that's the thing too.
I have other counter examples where it's like,
that's also contrary because I've been with other girls who are never done anything.
They're like,
there's a whatever.
Right.
But like,
I don't know.
Maybe,
maybe,
maybe it doesn't like a little bit of drive.
Exactly.
Yeah.
I think,
I think that would be a cool,
that's a, it's a good, it's like a little bit of a, Exactly. I know what you're saying. Yeah. I think that would be a cool, that's a good.
It's like a little bit of a competition to themselves, I think.
Now that I can understand.
Yeah.
If you put it like that, it's more of a competition.
It's like, damn, he's really going to beat me right now?
Yeah.
Obviously, women who play sports got to be more competitive.
Yeah. You don't want a boring girl.
No.
True.
I don't know.
I don't know where we're going with that it's tied into sex of course
somehow it's always tied in with us i mean if we're men i think that's all we talk about i don't
even think it's men it's just us three we're fucking disgusting if you put three men together
sex is gonna come up if you just put us together that's almost the only thing we talk about what
else yeah i mean it is what it is we're gonna talk about our feelings andrew is terrified of talking
about logan logan is convinced that i don't have feelings we had like a long conversation about
this i mean i'm not gonna say i agree but i feel like sometimes i don't have feelings either
i just i don't think i know what they mean
like like 100 like i'm very in touch with myself. I'm very, like, very connected with, like, what I think about.
Tayden talks about this all the time.
All the time.
She understands you, like, to a T.
She's like, no, I get Logan.
Logan's 100%.
I, like, me and him get each other 100%.
Same emotional, like, path, everything.
But Drew, I think Drew will not talk about his feelings.
Not for any reason specifically, but it's like, you know what I think?
I have a hypothesis. Okay, let's hear it. I think drew grew up in a house where you could not talk about your
feelings that's fair because i feel like i grew up in a house like that not because it was ever
like oh we i can't talk about it nobody nobody yeah that's what it is i don't think it was like
it wasn't i couldn't can't but it's like it just never happened like this is what i'm talking about
though is like your whole family are vultures of like opportunity yes yes your whole family mine a hundred percent vultures of opportunity
that is well put your whole family will jump on any opportunity to make fun of someone yes
so it's like you to bring you down never got the chance but he does it to himself because he wants
to be the you know the alpha the funny guy so it's like as soon as you could find a way to bring him down you're gonna do it what do you mean because
he brings everybody else down oh yeah well that's what i'm saying though that's why he does it so
i don't bring him down yeah you don't bring him down but you here's the thing i've never once
heard drew be like no like that's really cool that that guy's doing that never once has he been like no that's like actually
really admirable like wow i really respect that guy never it's it's like it's how can i drop this
man how can i drop him two points no nobody's better than me you know it's lion's mentality
that's who i am i really like how you put that because i feel like part of me like went through
that same thing it's like i can't be vulnerable right now because I'm going to get shit on for it.
Well, you got to remember too,
I grew up with Matt and you guys.
You guys are all four, five years older than me.
That's also another thing.
He grew up with older kids.
I could not afford.
So growing up around older kids,
you can't afford to fuck up.
Yeah, no, fuck that.
I grew up quick.
That's what I'm saying though.
I know.
That's why you cannot talk about your feelings.
That's why you don't have feelings. now i'm verbally abusive to everybody i care about
and it is what it is you know i know that though i know that's your love but you know yeah the
same thing with me it's like shit talk is my love language yeah and that's fine as long as you admit
that you gotta hang you'll know that yeah you gotta be able to hang which is why i feel like
i can't find a woman why because they can't do that. Is it because your love language is only
shit talk and they can't connect to that? I think so. I think I've
evolved into this shitty ass person from
hanging out with him for so long. It's him.
You can't blame it on me. It's all him.
He tells me all the time that he's
the reason I am who I am today.
I did make you for sure. Exactly.
You made me into this piece of shit. You guys all made each other.
You guys gave each other half and half. That is true. Only the best
parts is what I gave you. Bo's the only reason Drew is who he is.
That is true.
Yeah, Bo made Drew in a lab.
I made him even more confident than he should be.
You shouldn't have done that.
I shouldn't have bring him to the gym.
You made him ever.
Physically, you helped me out a tiny, tiny bit.
Okay?
Only reason, only reason he's here.
Everything else mental, though?
He would be dead by now, I think.
And I'm going to supply like his whole life too.
So I'm going to fund
it.
Literally you're going
to be the beneficiary.
I mean I'm already
kind of him.
I pay for a lot of
his shit.
I just know he's been
going through a lot.
I hate that he does
that.
I know he's had a
really rough.
If Steven ever hears
this this is his fault
for sure.
You fucked me so hard.
Oh my goodness.
Yeah.
It was mostly Drew
but Drew can't admit
At least you grew as
a person you know. Drew can't admit that. At least you grew as a person,
you know?
Drew can admit that, yeah.
You grew a little bit as a person.
You're better for it,
you know?
No,
I learned that
I would hate to live with,
you know,
somebody who's really dirty.
Yeah.
That's what I learned most.
That was the worst part
of the whole experience.
Who is this?
Who are we talking about?
We're talking about Trey.
I was sure if you were talking about Logan or if you're talking about Trey. I was sure if you were
talking about Logan
or if you were talking about Trey.
No, honestly,
Logan was not that bad.
He was not as bad as I thought.
Is that credible?
I don't know if that was like
because he was conscious
of like, oh fuck,
everybody thinks I'm so dirty.
I feel like if you're roommates,
you should just own
a pair of boxing gloves
and if you ever have a problem,
you just say, hey look,
we're gonna fight right now.
It would be a nightly thing.
And that's okay.
This is the thing though.
I think both Drew and I, me more, I think, I hate confrontation.
I hate confrontation sometimes.
I hate confrontation with my friends.
I don't like friends.
So this is my thing.
That's 100%.
I actually, I enjoy confrontation with anybody.
Anybody else.
Other than my friends.
Yes, I'm jumping into it.
So it's like a guy trying to sell me something.
I'm like, listen, dude, I'm not into it.
Stop.
I'll say it right to his fucking face.
No problem.
That's fair.
Like if I don't like something,
if you don't give me
enough fucking shit on my food,
hey, put more on there.
I'm not like that.
I need to be like that.
But this is what I say though.
I'm like, hey, listen,
can I get a little bit more of that?
Just because I'm paying for this shit.
No, you need to be like that.
100%.
I agree.
You should be able to say that.
You're paying for it.
I realize though that like with my friends, I cut my friends much slack yeah and that's i feel like that's just because
i get you're just being a good person exactly a good friend i'm like listen that's who they are
it's not worth it i think about it the other way around if that was me and i was doing that to like
to my friend that that makes you a piece of shit you didn't like they know better i would not do
that to them so why am i to let them do that to me?
That's a good point.
And that's how I always feel about it.
That's how you should be.
I agree.
I think that's a really good point.
So then I kind of end up bringing it up.
Or I'll let like a little thing,
I'll let little things go.
And then it's like,
and then it just gets to a breaking point
where I'm like,
I have to say something
because I'm going to go fucking nuts if I don't.
See, like I'm more like,
this is me though.
I'm just like,
like if it's like with my, like, like, more like, this is me though. I'm just like, like if it's like with my,
like, like,
so this was our rule in the house
when we were,
this was my rule.
I said, hey, listen.
Okay.
If you use a dish,
wash it, dry it,
put it away then and there.
So that way there is no,
there's no thing about
whose dish that was.
Yeah.
How it got there.
Especially if you're living
with a lot of guys.
Three guys.
Yeah.
Three guys.
Drew's was, hey,
wash your dish and leave it to dry on the other side of the sink. I don't want to interrupt, but it's not even just washing your dish.
I've talked about this with you.
It's like, if you have shit on your plate, at least rinse it off before you wash it.
Don't leave ketchup and shit on your plate in the sink.
Wash it.
That is disgusting.
I was the only one who's heard of a clean side side of a sink and like a dirty side of a sink.
You've never heard of that in your life?
No, it's what we did in my house.
I thought I was crazy, dude.
We would rinse off our, we have to rinse off our plates and clean them with our hands.
No, that's cool.
Put them in the dishwasher.
When it comes out, the kids put them away.
Okay, yeah.
That's how I grew up.
That's fair.
But this was my idea was, hey, we're not kids.
No one wants to all do this every night
so we have a fucking dry towel we have to hand wash it with soap and water hand wash it fucking
right away dry it off right then and there and put it up so that way we always have clean dishes
all the time that was my thought which isn't that hard in theory that's not at all in theory so
drew's was we do that the two sides of the thing my thought was hey if we do that people are not
gonna one of us not Trey either I'm saying just one of us people are gonna be like oh well I don't
know which one of those is mine so I'm not gonna put either of them up yeah I don't want to put up
Trey's I don't want to be Trey's bitch I don't want to be Drew's bitch so I'm not gonna put
either of them up that's exactly how I think too right really yeah I didn't really but that's how
I think if I thought I was like I'm not about't really. But that's how I think. If I thought it was mine,
I'm like,
I'm not about to wash this guy's dish.
A hundred percent.
Right?
It turned into that.
But then,
then what turned into was,
fuck it all.
When,
when we got sick,
we stopped washing dishes.
Well,
not even we,
Logan got sick for like weeks.
I got bovid.
Got everybody sick.
I'm pretty sure he had COVID.
Yeah.
But still working.
And I was like,
look,
as cool as like hand washing dishes, whatever day is you're sick please put him in the
dishwasher i never use a dishwasher ever in my life as a kid oh i i always have ever always i
didn't realize how like prevalent dishwashers were no no pots and pans in the dishwasher
because the whole teflon bullshit whatever but every other like dish spoon anything i think it's
like when you're in a predominantly white family.
I was in more of a Latino family.
No, you weren't.
We washed our dishes.
No, but that's a real thing.
Hispanics wash their dishes by hand.
Every Hispanic I know doesn't do it.
They don't use a dishwasher.
No.
They use a dishwasher as a fucking filing cabinet.
Just about.
You know what I'm saying?
Never touch stars.
It's literally not even a thing.
So it's like,
put it away.
So that's what I've,
I don't know if you guys know,
my background's only in Hispanic women.
Santos.
Santos.
That's my life.
Yeah.
I know how to do the Hispanic thing right.
So that's how I was like,
okay,
we'll just fucking put our shit up right away.
We never had the conversation though,
the whole time.
That's the issue too.
That's the issue.
We didn't have the conversation.
We never like really had the conversation.
But then somebody doesn't do it and then it's like now it's a war now i can't have yes now i
can't bring it up again so now we're just gonna have a problem yeah exactly logan and i had the
same problem and we would even have we would like sketch out conversations in our head of like logan
and i fighting like staged so the third person would be like oh fuck i don't want to get in the
middle of it i gotta got to do my part.
And it turns out it just went in one ear and right out the other.
Yep.
Like, oh, these guys are fighting.
So we're like, all right, well, fuck it.
But that's the whole thing, though, is, like, it wasn't Trey's fault.
It was all of our fault for just not talking about it and, like, just being like, hey, guys, let's do a team meeting.
I told him so many times.
I would get Snapchats about, like, you're, like, sinking shit.
And I'm like, dude, just tell him.
But it's not worth, like, losing a friend to me.
So it's, like— Not that it would, but we just don't like confrontation with our friends, dude, just tell him. But it's not worth like losing a friend to me. So it's like,
not that it would,
but we just don't like confrontation with our friends.
Yeah, that's fair.
There's no point of living
with somebody that you're like,
damn, he yelled at me yesterday
about not putting this dish
in the sink.
Yeah.
I'm not going to talk to him.
Yeah.
Like 100%.
Oh, we've got arguments
where like we get mad at each other.
It lasts like a day.
Maybe.
No, 100%.
And then you get like a text
from each other that's like,
you know, I'm fucking with you
a little bit.
And then you're like, you laugh it off yeah it's whatever we're men it's
whatever this is just what happens i really think though that's what i like i learned some lessons
this summer 100 from just shit like that like real lessons of like you grow up a lot because
you guys never really experienced living on your own i did grow up a lot i lived in huntington
oh that is true you did those motherfuckers i was, I was like, hey, I was a fuck.
I was the guy in that apartment.
You're like, okay, don't fuck with Logan's shit.
Because he's going to be fucking.
I'd do the same way.
You know what I mean?
But like, I don't give a fuck about those guys.
Yeah.
So you could just, you could say whatever you wanted.
I literally grabbed a fucking full tray of chicken and I threw it against the wall.
I said, you fuckers clean it up.
You fuckers.
Somebody ate like
a piece of his chicken
and Logan fucking
lost it.
Because I was the
only person who worked.
So like when I was
out there.
So you would get
home like I don't
have the time for
this shit.
I would get like
6 a.m.
I'm at class.
6 a.m.
to fucking like
2.30 p.m.
Then it's fucking
lifting and then
sports.
And then I leave fucking the baseball stadium. You work at a car wash. To work at a car wash until 12 fucking like 2 30 p.m. then it's fucking lifting and then sports and then I leave fucking
the the baseball stadium car wash to work at a car wash till 12 o'clock at night manager though
yeah manager three months make sure you know that it's top notch peak yeah so you get home you're
like I don't want to deal with any all of these guys though anything so then because it's like
listen I have to put I have to take my chicken out put put it in, start my rice pot, start doing my homework. Yeah.
These guys, none of them worked.
Most of them went to one class a day.
And they had 15 people over at the house almost every night.
Playing just video games, fucking shitting, having a great time.
And I'm like, wait a second.
This is your guys' reality.
And my reality is over here.
We're in different worlds. Yeah, we are living different lives and we have to live in the same house
And there's it was a two-bedroom with five people in it that lived in there
So it was like okay awesome. Whatever, but I don't give a fuck what your guys
Yeah, I threshold was fucking on the floor. Like if you guys go any above what I have to deal with I will fuck you up
So like yeah, that was that was my that was my Huntington reality. I completely
understand. I lived in like a, me and Daniel were roommates in college, but we lived in like a six
person dorm room, but it was like three bedrooms. And then you had like a kitchen and living room
area. So it was me and him in one room. And then like two guys in another room and two guys in
another room, this, one of our roommates, we shared a bathroom with them so it's me daniel and then the
other kid and we shared a bathroom with him yeah he would write like a schedule to clean and he
would post it on the mirror like bow bow cleans the toilet it's bow's turn to clean the bathroom
at this time and me and daniel like fuck this kid yeah like as soon as you're told to do something
you don't want to do it you don't want to do it true so he's like oh yeah and he would come up to me like hey um you haven't cleaned
the bathroom yet it's your turn and i'm just like oh like you know it's kind of like putting it off
putting it off like you know i'm not gonna do what you're gonna fucking say dude one day he came up
it was daniel's turn to clean the bathroom daniel was out of town and he's like pressing me and i
went off on this kid i'm like don't fucking tell me what to do like i was like literally in this kid's face he goes to the
like what do you have ra all right yep goes to the ra and like i don't feel safe here anymore
like living they try to get me to move i think they try to get me to move out and i'm like i'm
not fucking leaving nope so he moved out yeah but i completely understand i cannot i hate living
with people i don't like 100 hate it so
much that was my problem is i like the worst of them yeah and that's that's something i can't
understand really i've never i mean i live with daniel never had a problem with them ever yeah
even like i would that's kind of true because i would get mad at him sometimes but it was like
no it's my friend yeah it's not a big deal it's not a big deal yeah that is very true like man i
would like fight somebody over this kid what's what's
it played well yeah i mean a hundred percent so i mean i i ate it i was frustrated for sure
and i ate it i was more just like that's our boy that's fair i guess that's it's hard it's a hard
line to walk that was tough though it was really tough to like, honestly, that was the least tough part for me.
I was mad every day. Drew,
I'm the type of person I would be
the same way. I'd be mad.
Going backwards, if I could, I'd be
like, hey, let's call a meeting after
I got sick and just say,
hey, this is what we're going to do.
Are we all cool with it? You have to realize if you're
boys, you can literally just talk to each other
and just be straight up.
Stop being a piece of shit, man. Just clean your dishes each other and just be straight up. You can do that.
100%. Stop being a piece of shit, man.
Just clean your dishes.
It's not a big deal.
100%.
Oh, cool.
I got you.
Because sometimes it's like you just have to make them aware of it.
But that's the thing.
You know what?
Maybe I ain't being a piece of shit.
I'm not doing my dishes.
My fault.
That happened one time on accident.
Logan and I were, I mean, he might have been a little crossed.
I might have been a little intoxicated, whatever.
And we were just talking shit in general.
And then we started talking about dishes.
I thought Trey was asleep.
Obviously, he wasn't because the next morning, everything was done.
But I felt so bad, dude.
I felt so bad.
I was like, damn, he heard everything I was thinking.
Because it's not like you're telling it straight up to his face.
You were talking shit.
Yeah, I was venting in my own way.
And then you made him do it.
And it just turns out me and Logan are just laughing the whole time.
Yeah, but that's probably like, fuck, dude, I'm such a piece of shit.
I know.
At that point, it would have just been better to just be straight up with him.
Yeah.
Like, look, can you just do your dishes?
It's easier said than done.
Can I bring up something?
Yeah.
I feel like we haven't talked about sex for a while.
So you want to get into sex?
Yeah, I feel like we're like, do we have any, do you guys have anything about sex? You have so you want to get into sex like we're like do we have any do you guys have a thing about about sex you have 100 we want to talk about right like uh the ideal
sex situation like the thing that like you've dreamt about you know however long you've been
a kid whatever your ideal sex situation everything goes right perfect girl perfect scenario whatever
you want this is if you could pay money to have, this is like the top-notch shit.
What is that?
What would it be?
I'm into latex.
No, you're not.
What?
100%.
Like full suits.
Like if I could.
Nothing but a mouth cut out.
If I could have that.
Oh, my God.
Latex?
Zippers and shit, too.
Oh, yeah.
You want to gimp?
Yeah. Really? Yeah.
Really?
No.
Like cat ears?
No, no, no.
You have like...
It doesn't have to be like a face mask latex either.
But like I'm into that shit.
You just want that shit.
So your ideal, anything you could have in the world,
all you care about is a girl with latex on.
No, no, no.
So this is my thing.
If I could be... So I'm like... If I could be a sub is a girl with latex on her. No, no, no, no, no. So this is my thing. If I could be...
So I'm like...
If I could be a sub to a girl...
A sub?
If I could be just not the aggressor.
You're not submissive.
Okay.
Logan's a big alpha man, so...
If I could be...
No, but not that I am that.
But it just doesn't work for me.
It's just not that hot to me.
It doesn't play for me.
If I could, though... It doesn't fit a me. It's not, it's just not that hot to me. It doesn't play for me. Like, if I could,
if I could though,
like I was,
it doesn't fit a woman to be the aggressor.
Not even that.
It doesn't fit them.
And then they try to do it.
And it's like,
and I've had women try to do that.
And it's like,
no,
that's the thing though.
I think that's,
I had a girl like push me one time and I was just like,
the fuck are you doing?
That's what I'm saying.
I would,
I would body you.
Turn me off to the whole situation.
My whole thing is like what you're just saying though.
Is like if like when I was saying earlier, if I could be into everything, I would be.
Okay.
If I could be a sub.
Okay.
And we're talking about our fantasy right now.
Okay.
If I could be a sub, if I could like be like, oh my God, like I'm your bitch today.
Like what, like what are you're doing all of it.
I'm just, I'm, I'm your object.
Right.
If I could do that, that'd be great. But I can't. I'm just, I'm, I'm your object, right? If I could do that,
that'd be great,
but I can't.
I,
I wish I could,
I can't.
So I'm the complete,
it does sound great in theory.
I'm able to just not do anything.
If I could be the girl,
if I could be the girl.
Yeah.
I would love it.
It sounds like you want to be by,
that's what it sounds like.
No,
but it sounds like you want to lay on his back,
grab his knees and just go to town.
No,
no,
that's not what I'm saying.
This is what I'm saying.
Maybe you should try like a strap-on with your girl.
We already talked about it.
You're going first.
Okay.
So this is, but this is what I'm saying though.
If I could, I would.
I can't.
Okay.
So we're not talking about what ifs.
I know.
I'm the complete opposite.
Okay.
I'm the, like I have to be.
So you want a girl tied down.
I have to be a dictator.
Okay.
Literally.
Literally.
Like tied down. I am Gaddafi dictator. Okay. Literally like tied down.
I am Gaddafi.
Just like,
like all like stretched out like this.
No,
not like that.
No.
Just like,
it's just,
it's just my show.
Okay.
If it's my show,
we're,
I'm having a great time.
That's like literally my thing.
cause you could have anything you want.
But,
but exactly.
But like,
that's my,
what was it?
If,
that's your ideal situation. That though though like the fucking latex like bondage all that shit that's the ultimate level of that
and you've never had that i've had some of it you've had some of it i've had a little bit of it
okay but like i like it a lot it's a of fun. I feel like anything that's kind of wrong just feels good.
Anything just wrong just feels good.
Yeah, 100%.
I just like, like the older woman, every time I watched porn, it was always like.
Step mom.
Yeah, it was like step mom.
It was like friend's mom.
You know, you go over to the house and you're like, oh, my friend's not home.
He's not here.
So that means you have one of your friend's moms that you're trying to bang out. No, I don't think like oh my friend's not home he's not here so that means you have one
of your friend's moms are you trying to bang out no i don't think i have a friend's mom but i do i
am attracted to older women for sure we were talking about this lady at the gym maybe 40
years old is the blonde one yes both legs i'm not gonna lie i fantasize about her a few times yeah
close your eyes yes think about it.
I don't know what it is.
She has a boyfriend.
I don't know if it's fucked up of me,
but there's something about when they're married
or they have a man.
It's a little fucked up.
It is fucked up.
I get it.
I think it's from years of just watching porn
to where it's like, damn, I started here.
I started watching just the most general shit you could watch.
Can't go backwards.
Where it's like, I need something more.
See, I did that too, but I started at like 11, which is fucking crazy.
No, 10.
I was 10 when I started watching porn.
That is crazy.
That's so early.
So it's like, think about that.
You've watched porn for like 12 years.
I'm experienced.
12 years of porn you might even
be an expert i could what do they say 10 000 hours logan's got that shit oh more capped off
i've got 10 000 hours yeah so it's like but that's my thing though is like if i could take that back
i would oh 100 i wouldn't i haven't watched porn in a long time and i'm a huge like advocate of
not watching porn i wish i didn't watch porn when i was younger so stronger than me so do i
both i wish i did how did you stop i just there was just like one day where i was jacking off like advocate of not watching porn. I wish I didn't watch porn when I was younger. So do I. So do I.
I wish I did.
How did you stop?
I just,
there was just like one day where I was jacking off and it was like,
you know,
when you like jack off just cause you're bored,
you're like,
damn,
I'm like,
I literally had nothing.
Do I know?
No,
I'm just sitting in bed.
I'm like,
Oh fuck it.
I'll just,
I guess every,
every,
um,
okay,
keep going.
Go ahead.
No.
And I just jacked off and like I finished and I kind of just like walked over to the
mirror and I'm like, what the fuck am I doing?
Looking at yourself, your face all red and flush.
Why the fuck did I just do that?
For no reason whatsoever.
I know why I do it.
I know why I do it, but then I realized why I do it.
I do it for the feeling.
I've got a type and I like seeing the type happen. That's why I think I do it. I do it for the feeling. I've got a type. And I like seeing the type happen.
That's why I think I do it.
I mean, that's fair.
But I realized that it was like,
I need to have a little like mental strength here
to like say no.
See, I-
If I can't say no to this,
then like how am I ever gonna get anywhere in my life
if I can't say no to pulling up fucking Pornhub?
Well, this is the thing though too.
This is like a hard part about it.
It's like,
what's the term?
I have like,
so I was saying earlier,
I have an oral fixation.
Okay.
Which means like,
you guys see me when I'm fucking chilling.
If there's a bowl of chips,
I have to fucking touch it.
Well, is that like a thing or you just like to eat?
I like to eat.
No, no, no.
It's not,
but it's anything.
I have to bite my nails
when I'm not eating.
I have to fucking,
if I can,
if you give me a fucking anything to smoke, I'll smoke the shit out of it. I have to bite my nails when I'm not eating. I have to fucking, if you give me fucking anything to smoke,
I'll smoke the shit out of it.
I love doing shit with my mouth.
I mean, it is nice.
This is great.
I like doing this.
I don't even do this, but it's just nice.
In general, I'm pretty sure that's a real thing that I have.
But what it does, though, is it touches a part in my brain
where it's like, oh, I get to release endorphins.
So it's like, that's the same thing with porn though
or with anything like that.
Well, no, yeah, it's like a drug.
Or Instagram or anything.
It's literally just like,
how long can I massage this fucking butt and my head
over and over and over again?
Motorcycle, motorcycle, motorcycle.
Hot bitch, hot bitch, hot bitch.
Anything I can just fucking, I'm into it. Yeah, bitch yeah like anything anything i can anything i can just fucking
i'm into it yeah i mean like anything so it's just like that's hard to break because it's almost like
it's like smoking cigarettes it's not the cigarette that you can't quit it's the habit
it's the programming that's very true it's the programming of like oh shit i'm not doing
anything right now.
What do I do when I don't do anything?
Yeah, what do I do?
I have to do the thing I don't do when I don't do anything.
That's what it is.
It's not even, it's like, oh, I don't fucking care about this shit.
I don't even want to watch.
I'm not even into it.
Not even into it at all.
You find yourself scrolling through pages and pages. It's like a chore.
It's like a chore that you have to check off the list.
But you have to do it.
That's what it got to the point.
And I was like, why am I doing this?
Oh, it's 11 p.m. Got to do it before I go what it got to the point. And I was like, why am I doing this? Oh, it's 11 PM.
Got to do it before I go.
No,
nothing's going on right now.
Nothing's going on.
I got to touch that fucking button in my head.
And I hate it.
I do.
Well,
I mean,
I was your age when I kind of stopped and I've had like times where I've
watched porn,
but like,
it's been probably a year.
And even when I was like,
it's been like years of like not watching much porn at all.
It's super bad though for you.
Like obviously it's bad for like you, like it's bad for your health, but it's bad for
like everything in your life.
Oh, a hundred percent.
Like it's just bad.
It's not good.
I agree with that a hundred percent.
Some people argue that it's not.
It's not.
It's false.
But I agree a hundred percent.
It's not.
And I'm not saying like, oh, if you jack off once a week, you're a bad person.
Not at all. Go ahead you jack off once a week, you're a bad person. Not at all.
Go ahead.
Do that once a week.
But that once a week
is going to go to twice a week
pretty quick
for a lot of people.
And that twice a week
is going to be three times a week.
And then it's just going to,
like, it's literally like,
smoking one cigarette a week
is not bad for you.
I'm not saying I don't jack off, though.
I just don't watch porn when I do it.
What do you do?
You look through this fucking ceiling.
Do you?
Yeah, I don't.
Close your eyes
and just think about situations. I've realized that the problem with jacking off back in the day i do
probably think about me but you also don't realize when you do that you become way more attracted to
women when you're just watching porn like it turns you off to like so many women because you're just
like oh i'm not even attracted you see so many naked women that you're just turned off by it
yeah it's not like and it's
not like a normal man thing like a hundred years ago you would go your whole life and you'd rarely
see a woman naked yeah ever and now you can see a woman naked whenever you want all the time that's
the thing though is those guys who rarely saw women naked it didn't matter how hot the woman
didn't matter and i started to realize that because i would be so picky i would see a woman naked i'm like whatever she's a four sure not hot not for me i'm better than her so now i realize because when i would
jack off you would always make like you would make it like an experience you're like okay i'm gonna
go do this i'm gonna go pull up the video i want to watch and you make it like an hour long thing
hour literally yeah an hour long thing and i'm like no now when i
jack off i'm like i understand it's just part of my body it's like a male thing i want to get it
out of me i get it out of me and i go about my day an hour yeah you don't jack i would jack off
dude i would sit there doesn't your meat hurt no i would i'd oh bro i would i would blister my
piece when i was like 12 13 dude i would, I used to overdo it for sure.
Oh, 100%.
Hours, way too much.
No, I would go for an hour easy.
Yeah, same.
I would switch scenery.
I'd go from my bed to my chair.
Then I'd go to the shower.
Just anything.
Wait, your bed.
Wait a second.
I would start in my bed sometimes, but I never like to finish in my bed.
It's an event.
I do not like to finish in my bed. That's an event. I do not like to finish in my bed.
That's dirty.
There's this thing with all my friends that they get mad at me for.
They think it's super weird.
It's weird.
It's wrong that you do it.
It's weird.
To nut on yourself?
It's weird.
It's wrong that you do it in your bed.
Really?
It's wrong that that's your go-to.
I like to be comfortable.
I understand being comfortable.
I'm not going to go move and stand up so I could try to aim my nut into it.
No one comes standing up.
No one jerks off.
They do.
I don't come standing up.
So then where do you go if you don't do it in your bed?
I have a nice little ledge in my bathroom, in my shower.
Cut the shower on.
Sit down, relax.
So you just waste a bunch of water.
Yes.
Oh my goodness.
Well, not.
Like I said, I would start my bed.
I would start wherever I wanted to start.
And then I would work to the shower because I'm not about to come on myself and then clean it up afterwards.
Isn't that the most demoralizing thing to come on yourself?
Nope.
And then have to reach over and grab some paper towels and wipe yourself up.
No.
I agree with what you're saying.
No, but here's the deal.
As soon as you come, you are automatically like disgusted with yourself.
You're like, damn, why did I do that? It's like a masterpiece. And on top of that, you've got to clean up, come that's the deal. As soon as you come, you are automatically like disgusted with yourself. You're like, damn, why did I do that?
It's like a masterpiece.
And on top of that, you've got to clean up.
Come that's on you.
It's easy.
It just came on you.
Now you have to clean it up.
Like, damn, that's crazy.
I just did that.
I'm impressed.
That's how I feel too.
Good for you, big dog.
That's not how I feel.
I would always do it.
I'm like, God damn.
One or two swipes, you know, get it all, a little bit on my hands, whatever.
Hop in the shower.
That's it.
Then you're clean.
Then you're good.
But how would you do it in the shower?
And then I could just hop up, shower off?
I don't want to stand.
That hurts my knees.
I'm not standing.
You're still sitting.
You could lay down in the shower.
But like, I'm not against coming on myself at all.
I'm not against it.
I've done it.
I'm not going to say I haven't done it because I have.
They used to fucking cook my shit, telling me how gross I am.
That's not fair to you.
It's not.
Because I know they've all done it.
And I know they still do it.
It is not fair to you. It's bullshit. We I know they've all done it and I know they still do it. It is not fair to you.
It's bullshit.
We'll do some disgusting shit.
We've tried it all.
It's not like it gets me off harder
because I'm coming on myself.
It's just,
look,
I'm laying down.
Why when I'm close,
I'm going to get up,
turn the shower on
and then finish in the shower
just because I don't want to wipe my body.
Fuck you.
Well,
for me,
it was almost like edging.
It's like,
oh,
I'm about to cum.
Yeah,
you could chill out in your bed
I love edging
the scenery
I'm a big edger
and then I'd be in the shower
and I could go another
10-15 minutes
and then you keep the fun going
keep the fun going
you could do that anyway
because as soon as you cum
it's not as fun the second time
yeah
it's not as fun
then you work for it
you work for it
yeah then you have to work for it
and I don't
I'm not a huge advocate of that
yeah
so I would rather change the scenery
get another 10-15 minutes out of it yeah have a way more fun time so looking at your ceiling you
get to look at your your shower tiles i'm saying this is back in the day when i did watch porn
now it's like five ten minute process so what you've been in and out so now what do you do
in the shower if i feel like you start you start the shower it is your man you're like fuck like
i'm i need to let this out
Sometimes you're just it's I gotta get this man. I'm gonna let this go. Yeah, because it's not helping
I'm thinking about hitting up these girls. Hey, you should come over to this and I realize in my head
This is not a good idea whatsoever. I have it right here. This what but it sounds so good. This is how Bo masturbates. Okay. It's like this.
It's like this.
It's like this.
Oh, my God.
Fuck.
She's here.
Fuck.
Oh, fuck. I flip her over.
I flip her over.
She's like, oh, my God, her ass.
I mean, this is what I do.
This is weird.
I'm just drilling this.
It's a little weird.
No, that's what you do, though.
That's the only, like, it's, it's.
But it makes you more attracted to women.
But it makes you want it more. This is what you do though. That's the only, like, it's, it's. But it makes you more attracted to women. But it makes you want it more.
This is what he thinks about.
He thinks about Oliveira.
He's like, oh my God, Oliveira's over here.
Oh my God.
You think about the same ass every time?
Oh my God.
No, she, she, no, no, right here.
Oh my God, she, she's going to cheat on me with her boyfriend.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
She's only doing it for me too. She's,'t talk to myself okay to forbid that's what you're
thinking about maybe my head this is your internal okay this is your internal that's fair this is how
he comes and i the reason i know is because i used to do it before the neighborhood kids were like
oh hey you could go on this website there's yeah there's a website where you know you watch stuff
anything you wanted to see.
The first thing I watched,
in my neighborhood,
there was
Sid, Ben, Logan.
It's always the older kids.
There was four
older dudes by the three or four years.
Three or four years.
I'm 10, they're 14.
It's a bad change. You're not jacking I'm 10 they're 14 yeah it's like a bad change
oh you're not jacking off yet
and you're like
what do you mean
he's saying
I didn't even know
what jacking off was
before this
he's been looking at his ceiling
and thinking of what you do
oh yeah I forgot
he was jacking off at
10
but like
they're putting me on right
so then
we go across
our
so this is our
our neighborhood
then you go across
the street
Durango and there's another neighborhood we go across the street, Durango, and there's another neighborhood.
We go across the street.
There's these kids we were playing airsoft with at the time.
Okay.
The kid was like 17.
Oh, God.
I'm 10.
Yeah, you're not.
17 and 10.
You're not at that level whatsoever.
Those are two different levels, right?
No, it's a huge different level.
There's brothers, like 15 and 17.
And they look like the two kids who shot up the fucking school at columbine
i don't know what they look like but they look like those kids okay just think about what those
kids look like in 2000 imagine what kid like that would look like in like 2010 along here like
glasses like like jimmy type kids okay don't disrespect jimmy like not not that's my boy
not jimmy but like like jimmy like uh it's bad though right okay it's like leather jacket yeah
like long leather matrix jacket bad.
And like-
Trench coat?
At their house,
I don't know what the fuck's going on there,
but they're allowed to watch porn on the TV
with their parents in the room.
No fucking way.
Swear to God.
So I go over there-
That is a household you don't want any part of.
That's right.
There is no reason whatsoever
that should ever be a thing.
This is a bad place for a 10-year-old, right?
So it's like-
It's a bad place for anybody.
So it's like...
So one day, this kid comes over to my house
because I'm trading knives with him
because I was collecting knives at the time.
I remember this.
And so he's like,
he's like, oh, shit, I love that knife.
Oh, yeah, I'll trade you this knife for that knife,
this knife for that knife.
Prince is like, who the fuck is this guy?
Who the fuck is this kid?
This kid's 17.
And you're just like, oh, what do you mean?
I'm just trading a knife over here.
Yeah, this is...
He's doing regular kid shit. What are you talking about? This is me and my buddy James. But you're just like, oh, what do you mean? I'm just threading a knife over here. Yeah, this is... Just doing regular kid shit.
What are you talking about?
This is me and my buddy James.
Yeah.
But you go over to James' house, and it's like hardcore porn all the time on the TV.
And I'm just like, what the fuck?
What kind of household is this?
And it's not just like, oh, what porn's on?
It's like brutal shit.
So it's like, I think that's what set my tone.
I think that was my first introduction to like sexual stuff.
Yeah, you like had to grow up quick.
I also think I was molested, but I can't confirm it.
I don't know for sure.
I remember like having like a vagina in my face at like in preschool.
Oh, so you mean molested by a woman you were like?
No, like a little girl.
Like a little girl.
They were the same age.
I don't know.
I really don't know.
I don't remember. I was literally't know. I don't remember.
I was literally in preschool.
I was at Candle Hall.
Well, I think that when me included, when I hear molested, I'm thinking like another man.
No, not a man.
It was a woman.
I was like, I don't know what happened.
I remember the like fucking like eating ass.
Doing shit that you should not have done.
In preschool.
That you had no idea what was going on.
No joke preschool.
I watched like there was a idea what was going on. No joke preschool. I watched,
like there was a fucking like hot movie on.
I don't know how it came on the TV,
but like I walked outside.
And you're just like,
I walked out like,
it was like 11,
12 o'clock at night.
I walked in my living room
and there's some shit going on the TV.
Yeah.
And you're like,
what?
Oh,
I don't know what's going on.
That's a thing.
Okay,
cool.
Let's try it.
I go to preschool.
Because you're a kid.
You're like,
I just play that game.
Yeah.
You're like,
oh,
that was on TV.
Let's do it.
No,
you're innocent. You don't know what that is. You're just, but I can that game. Yeah. You're like, Oh, that was on TV. Let's do it. No, you're innocent.
You don't know what that is.
You're just,
but I can't confirm if it was like,
if it was an adult or not,
but I was like in some shit when I was in preschool,
a hundred percent.
So it was like,
that was my first.
No way it was an adult.
I swear to,
but like,
regardless,
it was some shit though.
Okay.
It was like some shit I was not supposed to be in.
So it was that.
And then it was 10 years old watching hardcore porn with 17 year olds.
And like, not like just as normal 17 year old, like a fucked up 17-year-old.
A fucked up 17-year-old.
Only a fucked up 17-year-old would be like, hey, I got this 10-year-old at my house.
First of all, no 17-year-olds hanging out with a 10-year-old by choice.
Yeah, that's weird.
That's weird.
That's weird because my brother was, what, six years older than I was?
Never hung out with me.
Matt was two years older than me.
You're not wanting to hang out with somebody that young.
I caught on by a lot.
You're hanging out with somebody that young, you got some issues going on.
They were going to have to move.
After they came over, my parents were like,
why is that guy so much older than you?
I was like, you're right.
You're too young to realize anything like that.
You're so innocent.
You don't think of things like that.
You're not thinking of all the other stuff that's going on. The implications of You're not, you don't think of things like that. You're not thinking of like all the,
the other like stuff that's going on.
The implications of it.
Yeah.
You're just like,
oh,
it's just,
that's my boy.
Yeah.
Like he plays airsoft with me.
He plays,
he's cool as fuck.
He's got kills.
We watch porn at his house.
Yeah.
There's naked women on the TV when I go over there.
He's cool.
He's the coolest.
Yeah.
So that was,
I don't know.
That was my,
my introduction to it though.
What was your introduction? My introduction? Okay. I'm sorry. Or don't know. That was my introduction to it, though. What was your introduction?
My introduction?
Okay, I'm sorry.
Or both.
You.
You know, my mom was Garen.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, we were like, I want to say like 11 or 12.
It was like sixth grade.
I was chilling at his house.
Which I feel like is still so young.
Oh, yeah, 100%.
Were you going through puberty at that point?
No, I was late.
I was like 14, 15 before I started my period.
That's when I was. I was like 14. Yeah, I was like, I remember? No, I was late. I was like 14, 15 before I started. That's when I was.
I was like 14.
Yeah, I was like, I remember telling him, I was like, dude, like,
the shit they talk about, like where it feels really good, like I did that.
Like nothing came out, obviously.
I was fucking 11, 12 years old.
I shot blanks for like four years.
But you guys said that was like the best.
Yeah, that was the best.
And I never experienced that.
Oh, it was nutty.
I never experienced being able to do that and just keep going.
It was literally like, ah.
And then you're like, oh, wow.
You were just still hard?
Again.
Yeah, 100%. Again.
What's the science behind that?
You just.
Still am.
I could rub two out myself, no problem.
Well, I mean, that's different.
I could sit in the bathroom for three hours if I wanted to.
Right now?
No, no, no.
Back then.
Yeah.
I had a beanbag in my in my
bathroom three told us about that three hours easy which i would probably if i could go back in time
i'd probably get a beanbag too i put it in like my linen closet matt used to always try to catch
me and shit i was so mad i cracked my ipod because of that shit but you lived in a household and then
like your parents split up too so it was like you had just him and your dad like it's a man household
no this was when they were together.
I had too many women in my house to be doing shit like that.
My parents didn't split until I was like 14.
I grew up in a house of girls.
I never felt comfortable doing that.
I would be in the shower for like 45 minutes thinking that I'm getting away with this shit.
Like nobody knows.
Yeah, I was in the shower too.
But you look back now.
Dude, there were so many times where like, I would be 10 years old
and my brother was like,
in the shower.
I'm like,
what is he doing in there?
What is he doing in the shower
for 45 minutes?
I caught Matt one time.
I caught,
yeah.
He's like,
dude,
I was cleaning my penis.
It's like,
like a long,
I was like,
oh,
he's got a dirty dick.
He's cleaning it.
I should clean my dick,
too.
It's so funny, dude. I used to, we used to have like a scented, like, I think it dick. He's cleaning it. I should clean my dick too. It's so funny, dude.
So we used to have like a scented,
like I think it was a soap that I used.
Okay.
I don't think that's good.
I know.
I was 10.
Yeah, you're 10 years old.
So it's like,
I'm like slapping a soap on me.
So it's like a thick,
you know what I mean?
You hear it.
No, but you hear it.
That's the hard part.
So you just hear it just clapping
and coming from the bathroom.
I'm like, what are you doing?
I'm like, what?
Like, you know what I'm saying?
And it's like, can you hear me?
No.
You just step out of it so quick.
They have no idea what's going on.
Shh.
You literally convince yourself that they have no idea what's going on. You literally convince yourself
that they have no idea what's going on.
No way they know.
She obviously asked me what I'm doing,
so she doesn't know.
I'm the first guy to do this,
so it's just me.
Nobody has ever done this, ever.
That was my favorite.
I hate how true that is,
because now I look back like,
holy shit, my mom knew what I was doing
the whole time.
Oh, 100%.
Yeah, we all lived the same life.
And I'm going to know exactly
when my kid's doing it.
Yeah, 100%.
Hey, the water's been on for 35 years.
What are you doing?
Or you just show them the bill.
Hey, listen, buddy.
The worst part is
when you're young,
you take the quickest showers.
When I was 10,
I wanted to get in, get out
because I wanted to get back to playing
whatever I was doing. Oh, yeah. I did not want to be in the shower it's like i don't
want to take a shower mom she's like you have to take a shower i don't want to shower you know i'd
be in there shampoo soap like all at the same time rinse off i'm out and then all of a sudden i'm in
the shower for like half an hour 45 minutes and i'm thinking oh they don't know you know i would
leave the water running sometimes and just like be in the bathroom.
Oh, did I would the entire time?
Yeah, the whole time.
40, 45 minutes of just straight water the whole time.
I need to pee too.
Yeah, I do too.
We should take a little break.
Yeah, that's fine.
I feel like we got a little bit of time.
I got to pee really bad.
All right.