Wonderful! - Wonderful! 107: Deep Hug Stink

Episode Date: November 6, 2019

Griffin's favorite cooking programming! Rachel's favorite kid's clay! Griffin's favorite bitpop band! Rachel's favorite stink! Music: "Money Won't Pay" by bo en and Augustus - https://open.spotify.com/album/7n6zRzTrGPIHt0kRvmWoya MaxFunDrive ends on March 29, 2024! Support our show now by becoming a member at maximumfun.org/join.

Hi, this is Rachel McElroy. Good morning. This is Griffin McElroy. And this is wonderful. Oh, rare morning record for the wonderful gang doing this one coming in hot rachel was producing some sounds and fluids do you want to talk about the sounds and fluids my voice is better this week it's better uh i still have a cough that really sneaks up on me the sound i will say this the sound and timbre have improved a great deal oh okay the

fluids yeah have been better yeah i would say it gets worse as the day goes on so last night when we typically would record i opted to wait it out rachel has in her contract her wonderful contract that we wrote for each other yes it's yes, yes. It's one of our many contracts, folks. We have the wonderful contract. We have the- The one around the dishes. The dishes contract. We have the, let's just say the- The bathroom.

The bathroom contract. Ew, that could be anything in the context of what I was talking about. There's no bathroom contract. Well, in that you need a certain percentage of time. I need a certain percentage of time. The bathroom contract basically says there can't be a bathroom contract because of how sort of unpredictable a system

I am working with. But anyway, Rachel has a sort of like, you know, escape clause. And she took it last night. Last night she walked out in the live audience. We had to refund all their... Have we ever talked about how there's a live audience every time we record? We haven't because they're so quiet.

They really don't enjoy our craft, huh? No. It seems strange that we keep bringing them in. Yeah, we keep bringing them in and they keep looking really... Not disappointed, just neutral. They're like like there's no format to this show yeah you're just reading information you found on wikipedia why don't you go back to talking about bachelor like all that jazz yeah but anyway i'm feeling it the sun's

out and kind of that's not true it's super cloudy and my guns are out rachel's guns are out she is wearing it is november and rachel is wearing a tank top the guns are out. Rachel's guns are out. She is wearing it. It is November and Rachel is wearing a tank top. The guns are out and they're shining. They're polished. What do you bench now? What are you up to? Oh, like two. What?

Yeah. Two. Started at one. Yeah. Up to two. Now you're here. Doubled. Got any small wonders?

I do. You want to go ahead and take it? I feel like we both were wanting to bring the same small wonder. I don't think that's true at all oh shoot i literally just thought of mine when i sat down in this chair okay draw strings ah see i was gonna say draw strings our son has a very uh narrow waist yep he's very tall so he needs the size appropriate for his age but his waist is very small right uh little in the middle but and he doesn't even have much

back and so a drawstring that is actually functional is very useful yes but a lot of times they make decorative drawstrings and i just what is even the point what's the point of that you've just given you've just given the pants a mustache at that point yeah and it's it's it's meaningless what's your small wonder uh i mean i was gonna talk about the queer in japan miniseries on netflix is it's extremely good i did not get that queer i terrace house crossover that i was so deeply hoping for oh my god it was netflix you think you would think that they would get that done for you uh i had something else oh caracaro bonito i'm going to see him in concert tonight they're great they're a fantastic band that um you should go listen to uh augustus from these for theme song money won't pay uh with bowen uh is is in that band gus is in that band and uh i'm going to see him tonight at uh mohawk

very excited to go to that concert by myself like a cool concert goer i'm thinking about wearing sunglasses and smoking a big cigar and just kind of standing in the corner. Yeah, because then I'll have some mystique and I won't just be lonely concert goer. What do you think about that? I think you would draw a little more attention. I think you're probably right. I should probably just cloak it completely. Hey, I go first this week. Okay. My first thing and we've been we've been flirting with this for a long time. We've been dancing around it for a bit. But let's really get into it. I want to talk about Bon Appetit.

I want to talk about Bon Appetit. Specifically, I guess I'm not a subscriber to the magazine. So I guess I want to talk about Bon Appetit's YouTube video presence in general. The personalities on this squad are incredible. So powerful. Very powerful. And that's what i want to talk about i'm getting a like an entertainment center delivered today and i don't know how that's going to happen so i just saw a truck pull up and if i see a person like struggling to carry

an enormous furniture box down our stairs then we may need to pause the recording but anyway bon appetit i uh it's been delighting me for months now. I was trying to think of things to talk about. I was like, oh, how about this thing that we watch all the time? Yes. There was, I think, a natural evolution to how we got here. And the first part was we watched those short-form tasty videos on Facebook. And we'd be like, oh, here's 50,000 ways to make chicken sliders.

But there's literally no personality in those. No. Typically, it's just hands. I learned that there's literally no personality in those no typically it's just hands it's i learned that there's a name for that genre because that's actually what bon appetit started uh doing video content with back in 2012 after like the tasty stuff started to pop off uh it's called hands and pans i like that very very much uh so yeah we kind of moved on to more long form content rachel and i like to wind down with a nice like, you know, Kiwami Japan half hour long making a knife out of tofu video

or some Baumgartner art restoration. And Bon Appetit, I feel like is like the one we look forward to the most, partially because like it's more practical than the other things we watch. Like it's food, which we could ostensibly make. And it's got that deep that deep primordial soul satisfaction of looking at tasty food, which is the only reason I watched the Food Channel. That's not true. There were a lot of good personalities on Food Channel also, but the personalities on Bon Appetit, oh, man. So anyway, the magazine's been in publication since 1956, and it has always sort of had this slightly highfalutin brand.

It's always been very upscale dining, fancy. Yeah, I mean, the fact that it's French. It's called Bon Appetit. The very name. Bon Appetit. Then you know that they're not going to be dealing with like, here's how to make some rustic mac and cheese or something like that. Yeah, or here's how to make a burger that's actually seven burgers on top of each

other right that's more the tasty ml but in 2012 they're like well hold up we do actually want that tasty money and so they started to make these these hands and pans videos um but nobody really i feel like i certainly didn't like you know pay attention to them and these efforts uh until we started watching like their long formform personality-forward stuff, the first of which was a series that's still going. It's called It's Alive, featuring Brad Leone,

or perhaps Leone, who is frequently featured in the series that Rachel and I sort of were onboarded with, which was Gourmet Makes, starring Claire Saffitz, in which Claire, who is just fantastic, just the best, tries to recreate sort of different junk foods.

Yeah, you want her to be your best friend. You want her to be your sister. I want all of them to be my best friend. I want all of them to be my best friend. You want her to be your neighbor. Brad seems like a handful. You want her to watch your dog when you're out of town. That would be, I'm sure she would do a really good job.

She would like learn how to make Beggin' Strips for the dog. Damn, I would watch that episode. Yes. Of making Beggin' Strips. Where they bring a bunch of dogs in. There was a, this is such a divergence, but there was a blog that I used to really, really like when I was younger. It was like proto internet blog era called Steve

Don't Eat It or something like that, in which he would eat food that he shouldn't be eating. And one of them was Beggin' Strips. There's a line from that review that has always stood out in my mind. And he said, I expected it to taste like some sort of similar legroom of bacon. What I was not expecting was it to taste like the smoky puke of a thousand maniacs. That's beautiful. It's so good. But anyway, that was sort of how we got onto it. Like she makes gushers.

All of it is so fascinating and there's so much trial and error. But mostly it's just like watching Claire, you know, try really hard and sometimes fail and get very frustrated. And we've talked about this as a small wonder before but the idea is that she takes kind of junk food favorites and turns them into like a gourmet version that you could make at home we were watching takis last night she was doing takis it's just like just came out and it made me realize i've never eaten a taki and it's like all i've been able to think about since we watched that video is how bad i want to eat a taki now i may sneak out today go to a gas station get some takis and have secret talkies without telling you. But what they've accomplished is kind of like the web video dream,

partially because like they've made something from nothing, kind of. Because these efforts like It's Alive started in October 2016. And that was really like the first series where it's very like humorous and the editing is very like um it's very like uh what was that show blind date on uh like the cw or whatever that had like constant pop-up like uh subtitles and stuff like that uh like it's very irreverent and it's very not bon appetit like magazine brand yeah exactly this is a new effort and it's been like super, super successful. I feel like everybody started to watch Gourmet Bakes

and what the dream is that they've accomplished is that like for us at least, it has brought us into like the whole ecosystem of the stuff that they make. Like we've watched an episode or two of that back-to-back chef show where a woman named Carla Music brings in like special guests

and they both cook a meal at the same time. But the special guests can't actually see what Carla's doing. I've watched that one. It's really, really good. Claire did a series called Baking School where we learned how to make a cake. And it was super in-depth and super informative and great. The one we've been getting into a lot lately is Chris Morocco. Chris Morocco is this very erudite tall man who has apparently an incredible palate. He's

a super taster. And so they will blindfold them and he will taste foods and then try and recreate them. And including like Guy Fieri's garbage can nachos. It is a very good series. Obsessed with this dude now. He is so fresh. Yeah, I am always delighted because a lot of times these people have tremendous skill and they're very knowledgeable and you think this is going to be inaccessible to me um but they're all so charming and relatable and they explain things in a very like very clear ways and they're all funny like and that's like the thing that really appeals to me is like you see the ba test kitchen and it's just a big open room so you see everybody doing everything all the time and so everybody's in every video essentially and so

there's this cross-pollination where like we saw this we saw chris morocco in the other people's videos and we're like hey he's funny and so when a new chris morocco video opened up it was like oh let's watch that kind of incredible it's incredible and it's also like that is for you know speaking personally when i was at polygon like that's kind of the that's kind of what you want if you're going in that sort of personality forward direction and they've accomplished it like really really well which is impressive from a strategic standpoint but it's also impressive from a like i'm jealous and want to work there i know because it seems like the chillest, like best, most fun place to be.

I kind of wish they did like a Disney on ice tour where they would come to your town and make something in front of you. It is the, yes, it's like the Marvel cinematic universe of, of cooking operations. And I just love it. There's so much,

there's so much to dig into there and, and they are, they're just firing on all cylinders. So that's Bon Appetit appetit i'm this is mostly me just like checking this box because i feel like we've i when i when i started to write notes on this i was like i swear to god we've talked about this before but yeah we just mentioned gourmet makes but we didn't really talk about the whole franchise which is very worth discussing very worth the oh chris morocco makes uh jamie oliveranity Burger throws so much shade

at Jamie in the making and the process. It's so good. It's such a good series. What's your first thing? My first thing is Play-Doh. Alright! Alright! Oh wow! That turned on you quick.

It's just we now, our relationship with Play-Doh has changed since we are not the first hand players with the Play-Doh and we are now the second hand sort of watchers. The second hand sort of we're Play-Doh police at this point. I know. I know. So it's challenging for me. So Henry is going to be three this month and he's just gotten to an age where he can be really creative with his toys.

So good. It's so fun. So Play-Doh is like, is perfect for him because he understands that he can make things, that he can combine colors, which is very stressful. That's the part that Rachel, I feel like anytime he's like, let's get the Play-Doh out, your reaction and therefore my reaction, seeing your reaction is like, okay, because you know you're going to be hovering and be like, oh, the red on the green that's just going to turn into brown every color turns the same when you mix them together i don't know it like defies the laws

of like light and physics yeah i i was successful for a while getting out one color at a time being like what color should we use today but then he realized why not get all the colors i have to take some blame for this because one day he was really upset that we didn't have orange play-doh so i took some of the red play-doh and yellow play-doh and mix it together and he was like oh i saw that happening and i thought well it's over for us now well over for you i don't mind that weird sort of baby poop green brown here's the question though what container do you put it back in this is what's hard i know i know babe i know we need a for you

the answer is a garbage can yeah we'll get new we'll get new play-doh i'm so sorry and rachel well i have a recipe for play-doh at the end of this segment i've made play-doh before yeah me too but it's been a long time so it was helpful why are we buying play-doh man because of the colors food coloring there's like 50 colors now that's a lot that's quite a bit yeah like they don't sell 50 food colorings and i don't want to spend a lot of hours making my own version of chartreuse yeah that's a good point i'm pretty sure it's just yellow and green but it's a good point uh let's not get into chartreuse okay let's not start this okay yeah on page seven of the contract we agree you're right we would not talk about chartreuse okay let's not start this okay yeah on page seven of the contract we agree you

would not talk about chartreuse anymore you're right uh do you know the history of plato absolutely not why would i know that that would be a wild thing for me to know well it's one of those things that was made originally for a different purpose it was for the war they would use it to fill in bullet holes it was like a makeshift uh it was used to clean coal residue from wallpaper oh my god okay what yeah i was goofing but that's not too far off in terms of like weird practicality at the request of kroger they wanted a product that could clean coal off of wallpaper joe mcvicker uh and noah mcvicker of the cincinnati-based soap manufacturer put together a pliable putty-like substance so that and then they were like hey they were peeling

coal off of wallpaper and like you know what this is kind of fun this is fun yeah so why was there so much coal on the wallpaper what were they doing when they would you know use like coal stoves in the house i was thinking see you know me i'm a coal miner's daughter so i was thinking like just the raw shit on it they were like in the mines just like yeah and then take forever i was thinking coal miners were coming up out of the mines and then just like accidentally bumping into the walls and leaving their like you know their their trails behind them uh So what ended up happening was Joe McFicker was the brother-in-law of a nursery school teacher who had seen an article about making art projects with putty. And so she persuaded them, as the country moved away from coal stoves, for example, to use it as a child's toy. And so she and her husband came up with Play-Doh.

Joe and Noah wanted to call it Rainbow Modeling Compound. That's a better name. Can I say that's a better name? Because guess what, folks? It ain't dough. Modeling Compound, though, doesn't invite children. That sounds like a business person's toy. It invites children to yummy down on this

because it's dough, like cookie dough. You love this. Well, here's the thing. Usually, at least initially, it was made with flour, water, salt, borax, and mineral oil. You can almost eat all that stuff. None of that in a small quantity is going to hurt you. Borax?

It's non-toxic. People are able to eat a little bit of Play-Doh and not hurt themselves. How much Play-Doh would I have to eat to hurt myself? This is a good question. Let's find out. I'll be right back. Griffin Don't Eat That, a reprise of his favorite show.

So this has been around for a long time. It was demonstrated at an educational convention in 1956. And then in 1957, they started running ads on captain kangaroo romper room and offering it in stores in red blue and yellow that's all the really that's technically all the colors you need yeah as i mentioned earlier now it's available in 50 colors um started with a mascot uh in 1960 tell me about the plato mascot used to be a pixie. Oh. Before we saw Play-Doh Pete. Oh, wait. So they started with a pixie and they're like, get that out of here.

Now we need Play-Doh. What is Play-Doh Pete? What's he look like? Play-Doh Pete, this says so much about our country. So initially, he was a little gentleman, a little kid in a smock and a beret. Okay. In 2002, they replaced that beret with a baseball hat that's in 2002 in 2002 oh my god you're telling me that like plato was complicit in like freedom

fries like bush era post 9-11 bullshit oh my god that sucks hashtag bring back the beret plato well so now in 2011 they started started taking the little Plato containers themselves and turning them into mascots called the Dodo's. So those little plastic cups are now like turned into little cartoon figures themselves. And what's Pete doing? What's Pete supposed to do with that? Pete's gone. Pete died?

I mean, he's working for somebody else now. Dang it. Mm-hmm. Maybe he got a job as like the new Dennis the Menace. Oh, yeah, because Dennis had to resign in disgrace. He went a little really. He went actual menace. He went way too hard on Mr. Wilson.

The other good thing about Play-Doh. Yeah? That scent. The smell of Play-Doh yeah that scent the smell of play-doh oh the scent i thought okay i didn't know that was a whole sentence yes the scent is quite good uh the company has trademarked it in 2017 and they describe it as a combination of sweet slightly musky vanilla-like fragrance with slight overtones of cherry and the smell of salted wheat-based dough. Eat shit, guys. It's not a fancy cabernet.

Like, it is Play-Doh, y'all. Like, stay true to your rules. Play-Doh's fucking changed, man. They used to be, like, real. And the boy had a beret, and they were like, yeah, man, it's just some dough. We put some borax in it my wife did you ever have so speaking of how play-doh used to be real do you ever have one

of those play-doh sets when you were a kid like they had all the little tools and stuff oh yeah absolutely did you have that mcdonald's one uh yeah where you could make the french fries you would have like yellow play-doh and the. The quintessential one for me was always the hair salon because that was. Oh, I always wanted that. You cut the little hair out that would grow out of the hair. I don't think we ever had that, but we had it at like my church, like, you know, Sunday school for little, little, little kids. And I would have a lot of fun there while learning about Moses or whatever.

So, and I'm going to ask you to Google this just so you can enjoy this. Okay, in 2014, Play-Doh released a Sweet Shop Mountain play set. Shop Mountain play set. That was a little controversial. Oh, because the food looks so delicious? No.

There's a tool that came with that set. Okay, let me load it up. That was a little controversial. It was supposed to be a baker's pipette. No, no, no, no. That's not what that is. You want to talk about what you're seeing? It's a, okay, it is a syringe type shape.

I imagine that's not why it was controversial. It's so dildo-y. Yes. It's so hugely dildo-y. It's so hugely dildo-y it is ribbed for the play-doh's pleasure um this actually play-doh came out and offered uh a replacement pipette because so many parents were outraged by the very phallic shape of this i gotta check the reviews on this this object a good question is this the phallic kit? Not sure what you mean.

It's a very age appropriate Play-Doh set. My three-year-old daughter loves it. Nothing naughty about it. Okay. Can I just order the phallic extrusion piece? No. There's five people saying no, no, no, no. Shame on you.

It was released, I guess, right around christmas time is like this is going to be our big christmas present yeah and um people people could not contain themselves oh boy yeah this is clearly the product of sick minds why do the candles need to look like sperm i didn't even notice that hold up do the candles look like sperm oh i didn't notice that i think that that's i think that that person is like wanted. They're just looking for it now. They were looking for sperm. No, the candles look like, they kind of do like sperm.

So do you want to know how to make Play-Doh? Yeah. There are a bunch of different recipes out there. A lot of them contain borax. Some of them don't. I think it depends on how long you want your Play-Doh to last. Hey, the fuck's borax? Oh, I don't. I think it depends on how long you want your Play-Doh to last. Hey, the fuck's Borax? Oh, I don't know.

Okay. I've only known it in the context of making your own slime and such. Yeah. Borax must be like- I think it's a cleaning product. I just don't know what you would clean with it. Yeah. Let's make sure we eat that.

Remember, Rachel loves it. Rachel loves eating it. It's sodium borate or sodium tetraborate. Yeah. It's a component of many detergents. Yummy cosmetics. Mm-mm-mm component of many detergents. Yummy cosmetics and enamel glazes. My mouth is salivating just at the thought of eating the borax. The recipe I found is probably not designed to last. I think that's the big difference is that

a lot of these at-home recipes, you know, aren't really built to be more than one session of use. Right. built to be more than one session of right um but yeah you can make play-doh with uh flour baking soda water cornstarch uh you bring it to a boil and stir and uh it thickens and you got your own little at-home dough hey that's fun and then you put that in the oven oh you got you gotta extrude it with with mommy's special helper uh i think play-doh is the best it's super fun i always enjoy playing with it with our son he enjoys it a lot it's been around as i mentioned since the 50s still just as good still just as good i i did not it's one of those things where every time i sit down and play with it i forget how much i like like modeling stuff out of clay like henry's like make a tiger

and i'm like oh this is a fun challenge and by the time you're finished he's already moved on to something oh yeah he was watching uh the other thing i read is if you get play-doh on the carpet you just let it dry and then you can just remove it with a stiff brush interesting yeah it's the best that's nice. It's sweet. Hey, can I steal you away? Yeah, please. Hey, I have a personal message. This one's for Daniel. And it's from Megan, who says, Dear Daniel, happy anniversary. Not to put too fine a point on it. You are the only bee in my bonnet. thank you for choosing to live your little robot life with me i love you all the loves even more than pizza even rustico pizza love meg meg they're taking over the robots i told you babe this is the first

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That would be a segment. That would be a heck of a segment. No, I want to talk about Onomatoguchi. This is inspired by the fact that I did see them in concert last weekend. Man, I'm a real concert goer these days, I guess. Yeah, I listen to you. I know. I went a good year and a half without going to one,

so I'm really breaking the streak. But yes, they did one of their tour stops as part of the USA Expo, which they're doing to promote their new tour, their new album here in Austin. And during that, I did make an appearance at that Expo where Peter and Luke, who are in the band, they did pitch me their pitch for Austin Powers 4. Is that recorded? Can I listen to that anywhere? I do not know if it was recorded.

Somebody in the audience may have been filming it on their phone. I don't think we were rolling tape on that, as they say. Very good pitch. Very surprisingly thorough and well thought out. But it just made me realize, like, hey, I haven't talked about them. And I didn't realize how long I have been listening to them. And it's like over a decade at this point. Wow. Yeah, time is a flat circle they

all seem like young fellows that's incredible they've been around don't we all don't we all uh i think it's kind of easy to like pigeonhole them as a chiptune band which is like a uh you know a very specific subgenre of music made with classic sort of game sounds 8-bit game sounds mostly uh and sort of identifying that as a novelty thing. But I think that's one doing a discredit to that specific genre. But it's also not suitable for Onomatoguchi anymore, because what I really, really like about them is that they have evolved over time, over the decade that I've been listening to them, into something kind of else. So the genre that I see them most attributed to is bit pop which is like a a

different subgenre that's not chiptunes because it's not like all the music is made with a you know an nes and like that's it it's just like that is some of the elements of the music is is these like sort of classic game inspired sounds. How is it made? Well, I mean, it can be made with like actual hardware. So Onomatoguchi, the first time I saw them here in Austin back when I came here for South by Southwest in 2011, I think that was still during the era where they had like an NES like plugged in with that had been like, you know,

hacked and modded all to all to shit so that it like ran sequencing software and uh that is how they would that is how they would play with that but like these days you can also you know load up those specific sounds into a a a DAW like Logic or Ableton like I've I've been using and uh you know just play them on a mini keyboard like I have set up in my office and, and just do it like that. Um, so yeah, I mean,

there's like, there's lots of different ways to sort of accomplish that noise, but now that that noise is sort of like becoming a little bit more mainstream in that it's being used in other genres of music. Like you will hear that sort of like, uh, lo-fi eight bit crushed to hell, like synthesized drum sound in like tracks from snoop dogg uh and

then there are bands that like really make it a central part of their thing without it being just like all chiptunes all the time uh kiari uh kiari pommy pommy is a big one freeze pop is a big one those are two that i at least have heard have you heard have you heard the new harry connick jr the new harry connick jr he's got that bit-pop sound that I am super, super into. So, yeah, like, when Onomatopoeia was starting out, it was, I was, like, writing about them for Joystick because of the novelty of, they play on stage with, you know, drums and guitar and a bass. And also one of their band members, like, is an NES. And so, like, their song sounded like, you know, dope, like classic nes tunes with a rock band playing over it uh and so i want to play a song off one of their earliest albums uh it's called uh jetpack

blues sunset hues and so like the sound was just super uh it was dope like i was super into it i remember moving from uh huntington to cincinnati like listening to uh this this album don metropolis like non-stop uh they also did the soundtrack for a video game they did the soundtrack for the scott pilgrim video game which was like revered as being like a fun as hell beat them up game that you now can no longer buy because of weird licensing issues it's just gone off the face i know it's so tragic i love it so, but they gained a lot of recognition for that. And that was in 2012, I want to say. And in 2013, they released an album called Endless Fantasy that we were actually covering at Polygon when it launched.

I think we did like a video essay thing on it. And it was this like 22 track behemoth. And it had this aesthetic that was like super unique and very consistent, inspired by like, again, like classic gaming, but also like sort of Japanese pop aesthetic, like that neon Japanese future pop sort of look and feel that is in all the music videos. They have a music video for one of their songs, Meow, that you should go watch because it's like super Tim and Eric inspired and is absolutely hysterical but like what is so ambitious about this album is that like the sound had changed like really dramatically because now it wasn't like here's

an old song from like an nes game that this band is playing drums and guitar and bass over like now it had fully incorporated those elements into a part of a bigger thing and had been like a genre of music that I had never really heard before. And it got more, I don't want to like insult the original stuff that they were doing, but it sounded so much more sophisticated. So I'm going to play some of Endless Fantasy. It's the title track and it's my favorite one on the album. I just really admire like any I think this probably comes through whenever I talk about something like this on this show like I really uh adore this like enterprising spirit uh that artists have sometimes of just like getting out there and trying a ton of new shit and collaborating

with a bunch of like-minded people and just being sort of like voracious in how much like new stuff they attempt to do and onomatopoeia does that not only with like different projects, but also with like their entire sound, like the entire DNA of what the music sounds like. It's really, it's really adventurous. You know, I feel like they're the majority of people when they think about starting a band or composing music, they think in a very kind of traditional, like, I guess I'll have to learn how to play the saxophone right away. Right. And there is like a mastery of instruments that like happens here but there's also a sort of like let's rethink the way that we make this yeah that we incorporate these elements like speaking of this is like the

quintessential like my favorite thing they've ever done in 2016 uh they staged a twitter dispute with a fictional game developer uh because they were uh they had apparently worked on the game soundtrack for this huge ambitious game called capsule silence 24 uh that had gone belly up and so they led to this acrimonious relationship between them and so onomatoguchi leaked the game's code and you could download it for free and play it and it was this unfinished weird broken piece of garbage game but then you could like slip into like this developer backroom space in the game and it was like this house that onomatoguchi had coded for themselves inside the game where you could go to like their rooms but you could also listen to the

soundtrack to the game and it was over 30 songs basically it was this whole weird arg where they released an album like the album was in the game game and it's capsule silence 24 and the music is fucking great. And like, that's how they released that album. Like you couldn't get it anywhere else for like a long, long time. They did a big tour with Hatsune Miku and did a collaboration song with

Hatsune Miku, which is like their, their biggest song. It's like, I don't know. It's, it's, I just really love,

I love that onomatopoeia is like, so experimental with their sound. You can hear it again., I love that on a Monoguchi is like, so, uh, experimental with their sound. You can hear it again. And this new album that just came out USA is like, uh, a little bit kind of back to back to roots. Like that,

that chip tune sound is a lot more forward, but the way that they like, uh, the way that they arrange around it is different in this one. It's a really, really great album. I've been listening to it nonstop. Uh,

I just really love, uh, I, I, I really love how experimental and like you said, adventurous they are with the music. So yeah, that's, that's the, also they wrote Pop, I'm going to play Pop It too. They never released it on album. It's just like a single of this song called Pop It.

And it's like my fucking favorite. It ended up on like a Target commercial and a Burger King commercial, which is very wild for me seeing Burger King with, which is very wild for me seeing Burger King with on Monoguchi over it. But anyway, I'll play pop it and leave it at that. What's your second thing okay my second thing is kind of hard to describe ah these are my favorite i wanted to kind of do it in terms that i thought you would understand oh good so i'm going to use language that i think you would use this is insulting already i'm calling it the stink of your lover this is gonna be challenging i want you to know uh-huh i want you to really listen to the sentence you said out loud and then

think about if you want to commit that to tape for a bunch of strangers to hear i do okay i'm ready i've thought about the consequences and i'm ready what i'm basically talking about is is you know how like when you fall in love with somebody yes and you get used to their smell right and then you kind of it becomes one of your favorite smells okay yeah that's what i'm talking about when you said the stink of your lover that sort of uh brings to mind like a sort of post-coital do you know what i'm saying and i'm sure there's lots of our listeners who went there too the scent of your lover is maybe you know stinky your lover's yeah i mean here's the thing sometimes it stinks that's what you're saying i'm a stinky boy i'm a stinky well a lot of it is kind

of sweat based interesting okay i'm assuming there's a lot of science behind this that you're going to tell me so what i'm really going to talk about is pheromones okay um but it's not like i love pheromones like the concept of pheromones and i don't love just anybody's pheromones just mine just my special pheromones that i make griffin mccory branded pheromones yeah i've been bottling them you can get them at the dollar stores across the country um so pheromones um it's interesting actually so the word pheromone is a portmanteau of pharaoh which means carry and hormone which means stimulating right okay but it is a secreted or excreted chemical that triggers a social response in members of the same species. Interesting. So dog pheromones do nothing for me, is what you're saying.

They can't. It's got to be the same species. Not on like a deep level. Right, okay. So this is something that does exist, like as you just highlighted, across species. Ants, moths, bees, and butterflies release sex pheromones to attract a mate. Many moths and butterflies can detect a potential mate

from as far away as six miles. Good lord. Right? That stink. It's a powerful stink. There's a moth up in Round Rock like, what's that fucking, I gotta get down to Austin,

there's a sexy moth down there. It also works in a kind of a different way. Mice through scent can distinguish close relatives from more distantly related individuals. So they can use a stink to kind of be like, oh, I shouldn't, that's my second cousin. I shouldn't get in there. It's my stinky nephew.

This is kind of a difficult thing to study because in order to really get at it, you need a kind of a base state of like cleanliness and odorlessness, which is kind of difficult with humans to control. Oh, yeah. We smell bad. I don't know what to say. You have to like just get the stink and not like, oh, did you have ketchup earlier? Right.

You have to really. I love the smell of ketchup. I'm so horny right now. But there have been a lot of studies recently on it. There are classes of pheromones. There's the kind that kind of come from sweat. There's the kind that come from your downstairs. Like my pee?

My pee pheromones, um what do you know you can't just say something like that and move on you can't say there's pheromones that come out of my wiener there's um when you go through puberty right as a person with a vagina right there is a smell sometimes. Oh, I see. Okay. Androstenol. Androstenol. In a 1978 study, people wearing surgical masks treated with androstenol or untreated were shown pictures of people, animals, and buildings and asked to rate on attractiveness. Individuals with their masks treated with androstenol rated their photographs as being warmer and more friendly.

That's a wild experiment. That's a wild experiment. That's a wild experiment. First of all, there's got to be somebody who puts on that mask like, yo, what the fuck is this smell? Why do you want me to look at pictures of buildings with this mask? This mask has a scent to it, gang, are you sure?

I suddenly find this building very attractive and this has never happened before and that's really weird for me. This stinky mask makes you i suddenly find this building very attractive and this has never happened before and that's really weird for me this stinky mask makes you want to fuck this building there's a lot going on here but the one thing that i found that i think is true is it says that this hormone can make people feel more relaxed huh so a lot of times when i go in for a deep hug with griffin i find myself becoming more relaxed right some of that is that stink it's my it's my it's my stink it's getting a little insult i am starting to feel very sensitive talking about my stink we've made it a good like eight minutes in

this before i got kind of uncomfortable about airing literally airing my dirty laundry like this uh there was also a study at university of chicago that talks about have you heard about um how people that get periods that live together will kind of sync up on their cycles i always thought that that was like an insulting dude bro like bullshit not real thing there's speculation that it has to do with pheromones huh interesting okay which i thought was kind of interesting they They did a study where they were people who get periods kind of got a whiff of the perspiration from other people, and it influenced their cycle. That's why I really don't like thinking I really like thinking all my actions are because of my own sort of ego decision making abilities and not because I smell the

smell and my body was like, party time, dude. Do i mean yeah uh so there have been a lot of efforts to kind of package pheromones and sell them okay this idea that you could cover yourself and some attractive person stink and then suddenly become oh my god interesting wait is that not just what perfume and i guess that's a different thing. Well, that's kind of, you know, that could be like floral. Right, sure. You're talking about a scent-free stink that's covered in my particles. There was a commercial pheromone called Athena that was tested.

And 74% of people who use this pheromone were devoured by ants in this study experienced an increase in hugging kissing and intercourse come on how's it how's the study going tell me about your results well i've had a don't want to brag but a 74% increase in intercourse what's that mean i've doubled my smooching doubled my smooching tripled my my hugging only a 74% increase in intercourse what's that mean i've doubled my smooching doubled my smooching tripled my my hugging only a 74 increase in intercourse but hey gang that ain't nothing uh i wanted how many were devoured by horny ants though how many were they sprayed this stuff on themselves and they went outside and were instantly turned into bones by i mean that's tough to say because some people wanted to be devoured by horny ants dang it you're right uh this is interesting it's also the kind of thing that i always think is like fake

because it's so like love potion number nine fantasy well it's hard to tell what comes first right like when you come to like someone then you potentially their smell is something that happens after you already like them interesting it's hard to believe that maybe the smell is what started it all but who are we to disagree with these horny scientists uh you know what our friends at home are excited about uh billy says hello my wonderful thing is the 40th anniversary happy meal toy assortment at mcdonald's from november 7th to 11th you can get happy meals with some of the best the best toys they've ever had this includes for example the burger transformer lad a space jam toy the original red power ranger a tamagotchi and the cream of the crop the purple platypus beanie baby holy shit wow this is they are firing

on all cylinders with these kind That's kind of brilliant. It's wild after we talked about them that this is happening so soon after. Yeah. Well, you know what? I've started to see, I mean, since we are of an age now where a lot of our peers, including us, have children. Right. I've seen a lot of kind of retro marketing. This is that. Yeah, I mean, this is that yeah i mean that this is

that like fully fully fully i may try and get that burger transformer i loved him uh rachel says oh sorry another rachel says it's the season for leaf shadows i think it's wonderful when fallen leaves collect on the sidewalk and then blow away leaving marks behind that look like shadows it's like temporary wallpaper for the ground oh my gosh that's beautiful that is very evocative uh i love that a lot uh our leaves haven't fallen a lot but we are getting a lot of what are they like little buckeyes like little what are those little guys there's like a thousand of them on the on the the the porch right there uh i don't know what those are acorns are they acorns they don't look like you know the proper buckeye acorns but i guess yes they are acorns and they are falling i would say about

two a minute and every one of them like lands on the roof or lands on the and i every time i'll have that and the washer running while i'm home alone and i'll be like every 30 seconds like oh someone's breaking in nope just an acorn in the washer going at the same time. That's it. Hey thanks to Bowen and Augustus for the use of our theme song Money Won't Pay. Find a link to that in the episode description and thanks to Maximum Fun for having us on the show. Thank you

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