Wonderful! - Wonderful! 173: Bip Bippadotta

Episode Date: March 17, 2021

Griffin’s favorite epic skateboard trick! Rachel’s favorite Muppet song! Griffin’s favorite digital art mistakes! Rachel’s favorite creative places! Music: “Money Won’t Pay” by bo en an...d Augustus – https://open.spotify.com/album/7n6zRzTrGPIHt0kRvmWoya Please consider supporting these various causes to provide relief to those living in Texas still suffering from the damage of Winter Storm Uri: Feeding Texas: https://feedingtexas.networkforgood.com/projects/124201-texas-disaster-response Austin Mutual Aid: https://www.instagram.com/p/CLrfiSNFmiL/ Other volunteering and donation opportunities: https://www.austintexas.gov/help-atx-winter?fbclid=IwAR1U_9fbwP2jglq11rY9wZR2jJePgQoxN934-bOFOPvbcckdRUPOVgK0Znk MaxFunDrive ends on March 29, 2024! Support our show now by becoming a member at maximumfun.org/join.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 🎵 Hi, this is Rachel McElroy. Hello, this is Griffin McElroy. And this is Wonderful. Coming down the homestretch. Meow. That was the car that we're in. Coming down the homestretch of the Indy 500?
Starting point is 00:00:31 What's the number? That sounds right. Because they go, do they do it 500 times? They go around the lap 500 times? Okay. That seems like way too many times. Sure, I don't know, maybe. You're telling me you've never watched NASCAR?
Starting point is 00:00:44 Does that really surprise you? No, it doesn't. I me you've never watched NASCAR? Does that really surprise you? No, it doesn't. I think I've only watched it a couple times, but that didn't stop me from having like a Jeff Gordon fathead on my wall growing up. I don't know why. I think my dad just really wanted to buy a fathead and he saw one with Jeff Gordon.
Starting point is 00:00:59 He's like, I bet Griffin likes cars. And or, and this is something I'm finding that the McElroys perhaps didn't realize a lot as children this is perhaps something he received for free through the radio station that is definitely actually definitely what happened of all the racers though why jeff gordon that that you know that papa john's looking little little guy i expect he was very good he was quite good he may still be good i don't know anything about nascar or who's still doing it but jeff gordon just always seemed like kind of a narc to me but this is this is our nascar podcast there's our new nascar podcast it's called
Starting point is 00:01:36 it's it's well it's still called wonderful we can't change the name of the show again checkered flag they let oh that's not bad they only let you change the name of your podcast once and we already did it so um yeah this is wonderful now and it's a show where you talk about things that we like things that we're into and sometimes we start out the show by talking about a small wonder you got any of those whoa whoa you really tapped into that radio yeah well here i am thinking about think about getting a free Jeff Gordon fathead from TCR, and it's got me in the zone. I'll say just having places where you can donate items. Sure.
Starting point is 00:02:16 We have recently, as we have mentioned perhaps on the show, undergone some transformation in our house due to significant flooding. Yeah. And have had to kind of reevaluate what we want to keep, given our smaller amount of space available. Yeah. And it is nice to know that instead of just putting something in a landfill, I can perhaps give it to somebody that needs it. Yeah. Which makes me feel a lot better.
Starting point is 00:02:42 And, you know, hopefully help somebody out. Sure. I want to piggyback off that with my small wonder, which is the decision we finally made to get rid of our DVDs. We finally, and I say we, you've been ready for a long time. But me, I'd be like, I don't know, man,
Starting point is 00:02:58 maybe I will want to watch the recent Star Trek movie You can't get the bonus features necessarily this is this is a concern this is important i'll be honest there's a few like box sets that i don't like uh the lord of the rings box set with like the enhanced like i know i'll hang on to those but like it i don't need physical media anymore we haven't had a a Blu-ray player, a DVD player hooked up to a TV. I guess we have the PlayStation. But like, what am I going to do with this stuff? It's having a significant portion of your house flood. It really kind of forces your hand vis-a-vis like making those tough Marie Kondo decisions.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Yeah. I mean, the argument is always there that they don't take up a lot of space. Right. And they do have those little, you know, special guys that makes you think maybe I shouldn't, I shouldn't give this up because what if I can't find it? Right.
Starting point is 00:03:56 You know, that's not everything's digital now, but I've never like at nine o'clock at night thought like, oh my gosh, if I can't watch the director's commentary on this film, I'm going to lose my mind. You know, and that lack of urgency suggests something. It says a lot. So yeah, I am also excited to have that space back.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Yeah. I'm excited to talk about my first thing, if I may. My first thing is the first time Tony Hawk hit the 900, which we all remember where we were. What's your Tony Hawk hit the 900 story? Because we all have one. Oh, man. This was to help you jog your memory. This would have been the summer of 99, June 1999.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Oh. So you were sitting, I guess, at a friend's house watching TV. Well, I was going into a friend's house watching TV. Well, I was going into my senior year of high school. Right. I was probably at band camp. Yeah. Oh, they let you watch it.
Starting point is 00:04:56 We all would have been huddled around the TV, I'm sure. Right. Maybe somebody was tuning their clarinet. And you were like, keep it down, I'm doing it. No, I don't even know what you're talking about i know who tony hawk is which makes me unique uh because i he's always talking about how people don't recognize i love this i've been thinking about tony hawk a lot lately because it's the kind of brand that i find desirable when i enter my 50s yeah i would love to have the sort of uh he is like a forgotten legend warrior nomad he has the most charming stories of going to various skate parks and having kids roll up
Starting point is 00:05:31 to him and be like what's your name and he's like oh tony and they're like like tony hawk and he's like yeah yeah they like he has his bestie was like somebody mentioned skateboarding and the guy he's talking to was like oh like tony hawk and tony i was like somebody mentioned skateboarding and the guy he's talking to is like, oh, like Tony Hawk. And Tony was like, yeah, that's me. And the guy said, I wonder what Tony Hawk's up to right now. It's like this right now. I'm talking to you right now. OK, anyway, so it was the summer before the first Tony Hawk's Pro Skater came out.
Starting point is 00:05:57 But I remember being like sort of into skateboarding as a concept back back then. into skateboarding as a concept back then even. I feel like this was the era where skateboarding was starting to be a thing that, you know, had made sort of broader cultural footholds. And everybody was talking about this X Games 1999 and how Tony Hawk was going to finally do the 900. The 900 is two and a half rotations, right? One rotation in the air is 360.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Two rotations is 720. 900 is plus 180 onto that. So the idea is when you say the rotations, they like go up a ramp and then they spin around. They spin around two and a half times. And then they land. They have to land it and stay on the board. Up to this point, up until 1999, They spin around. They spin around two and a half times. And then they land. They have to land it and stay on the board. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Up to this point, up until 1999, the history of the 900 was hotly debated. There was a skater named Danny Way who had apparently landed it about 10 years prior in 1989. But the video that showed it was kind of the authenticity was debated. that like showed it was kind of, the authenticity was debated. And after the X Games, Tony Hawk had a quote where he said, he was shown in a video almost 10 years ago.
Starting point is 00:07:11 He was really close, but he didn't make it. He came the closest by far, but they cut the video before he fell. So it may have misled some people. It went into like a Happy Meal toy commercial and they were like, wait a minute, did he finish? Did he not finish? He said there are only four people who have been able to spin completely
Starting point is 00:07:24 and he's one of them. Taz Pappas and Rob Boyce have also spun it, but they haven't landed it. So, like, even turning two and a half times in the air is hard enough, let alone trying to land it. And nobody had, like, done it publicly. Yeah. So this X Games, like, people were going wild. It was the biggest trick competition on the vert ramp. Like people were going wild. It was the biggest trick competition on the vert ramp. And he, you know, went down and like the crowd was huge. Like there was standing room only like everybody was there to see this historical thing happen. all like banging their skateboards against the half pipe like in unison like just like a war drum
Starting point is 00:08:06 uh and so he goes down and he goes up and he gets the rotations but he can't land it and then he tries again and gets very very close but he can't land it and he blows past his regulation time limit and they let him keep going Which there were some skaters who were not wild about that. But he tries and fails to land the 900 10 times. Oh, my gosh. Chomping it every time. Until finally he goes up, spins two and a half times, lands down, like windmills his arms, barely grazes the ramp like with his fingertips and stays upright. And everybody just like loses it.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Everybody just explodes. And I remember watching it. I it live on tv you did okay i wasn't sure if that was a goof or not uh and it was so cathartic because you really wanted to see it but after 10 failed attempts and him going past his time limit you think like oh well this okay well then it's not going to happen so much so that it almost like took us by surprise we finally managed to stay upright because that's the thing i mean that's the thing anytime like an athlete of any kind gets repeated attempts right like it's just got to be getting harder right yeah more times that you put your body through this but here's the thing he didn't win the event because he was past regulation time so he did not win the biggest trick the best trick event uh and you know that was that was how this history got made he's only been able to land this trick publicly a few times uh one of which i think was back in 2014 there was a game that came out
Starting point is 00:09:37 called tony hawk ride that had like a board peripheral that you stood on to like do that it was a mess it was a it was not a great game but in the promo like promo for for that game he managed to do it again and then his most recent one uh in 2016 he posted a video of him landing a 900 at the age of 48 and he said that's it like this is my last i'm not going to be able to do this trick again that was my last 900 um and only if like it's not a trick everyone can do even to this day like it is still an incredibly rare trick to see executed and i don't know it was it's rad seeing a like sports barrier or really any kind of barrier broken like that in such a like singular like crystallized fashion like that trick hadn't been done before
Starting point is 00:10:26 and everybody wanted this one guy to do it and then he fucking did it and then it had been done before and watching that i mean it was you know in a very very niche way like a historic thing and it just so happened that that historic thing was also a badass skateboard trick. Yeah. That was, yeah, it's just a very, very, it was a very cool moment that I was glad I got to see. It's so wild to think about, like, of somebody who reaches a level of ability where they're like, this thing doesn't exist. Right. But I'm going to figure it out. Right.
Starting point is 00:11:00 No, it was debated whether or not he could even do it. Yeah. And, of course like this was summer of 1999 tony hawk's pro skater the first one launched in september 1999 so this just fucking launched it like into space there's a reason why there have been 50 tony hawk's pro skater games because i feel like this this one x games helped sort of put it over the top yeah no this of course makes me think of figure skating yeah and you know the the triple axle and then all the people going for it and it being like the big thing that that you were trying to do
Starting point is 00:11:30 and there were only a certain number of people who could do it right but like you can get real momentum on ice yeah sure seems like it would be harder to do that yes absolutely yeah on a ramp hey what's your first thing uh my first thing is the the muppet classic performance of monomena uh dated 1969 i feel like our muppet media consumption has kind of skyrocketed lately oh yeah well i guess yeah i guess that's true uh henry really enjoys the song rainbow connection uh and he enjoys Kermit. He's watched a little bit of Muppet Babies. The Muppet movies themselves move a little slow for his taste.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Doesn't care for that bit, no. We have been like, every once in a while, we kind of sprinkle a little Muppet consumption in to see if he's ready. And he's still kind of the person who only wants to watch the musical performances. Right. I don't know that we've shown him Menomina yet. Have we? I don't think so, no.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Yeah. I sing him Rainbow Connection. I say I sing him. We sing it together at this point because he's heard it so many times before bed every night. It's so cute because my favorite line in that song is also his favorite line because he always sings it twice as loud as the rest of the song. And it's in the second verse where he goes, what's so amazing that keeps us stargazing? He's like really like, it's a good rhyme. We have to record that, by the way.
Starting point is 00:12:57 I can hear it sometimes through the ceiling and it's just the most charming thing ever. the ceiling and it's it's just the most charming thing ever so this monomena is a performance that uh kind of exists on its own it's not like in a muppet film it first appeared on sesame street and then they kind of went on to repeat it uh in you know the muppet show and the and then an appearance on the ed sullivan show not really any recognizable characters, right? No, it's not like Grover's in it or anything. It's characters designed specifically for this sketch. And that wasn't too uncommon. Jim Henson's early stuff was usually just little sketches on talk shows. I didn't realize it is an Italian song.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Menomina? Yeah. It was actually by Italian composer composer piero umilani oh that sounded really authentic babe it's a tuscan musician uh he composed scores for exploitation films in the 60s and 70s okay including spaghetti westerns and as this article states softcore sex films. Okay. And Sesame Street. The song appeared in an Italian film called Svezia, Inferno e Paradiso. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Which was Sweden, heaven and hell. And it's a scene where Swedish models crowd into a sauna wearing bath towels. And it appeared in the soundtrack for that film. So this was the origin of Menomina. That's wild. I thought for sure. It's got kind of a jazzy, like. Sexy. No, it doesn't have a sexy.
Starting point is 00:14:44 It's Menomina. In the version, and you can find this too, by the way, It doesn't have a sexy. It's monomonomous. In the version, and you can find this too, by the way, this original version. It's got that kind of time period, you know, jazzy quality. Okay. But I was hoping you could play a little excerpt. Oh, of course. Well, do you want the Sesame Street version? I want the Muppet version.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Okay. Well, here it comes. Monomonomous. Monomonomous. I want the Muppet version. Okay. Well, here it comes. So the one I am familiar with actually came later. familiar with um actually came later the original muppet version involved a character named bit pipa dota uh which first aired on sesame street 1969 that sounds like some george lucas bullshit of like a character that's in like the cantina band uh it does i don't know if it was like a nod it was like a oversimplification of like a nod to its italian yeah i don't know if it was like a nod. It was like a oversimplification of like a nod to its Italian origins. Yeah, I don't know. But it was just like, it was these two little girl Muppets.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Frank Oz was involved and Jim Henson was involved. And the male character is more of like a beatnik type. Yeah. And the female singers are kind of like less. They're like alien. they're kind of like the alien no this is the first one oh this is the first one the first airing is just like two little girls and this guy and they just all want to sing a song together it's less disruptive okay uh the one that that we're familiar with yeah is like the two alien puppets uh called snows snows are they the same ones from
Starting point is 00:16:27 the like that that oh god oh no i'm thinking like the little fuzzy aliens that go like me yeah they look very similar yeah so that's the 1976 version that we're the most familiar with twin monsters called snows uh a combination of snout and mouth okay so snouts snouts snouts yeah probably snouts um and that's more disruptive the the male singer who is not named now known affectionately as monomena uh appears to kind of run in and disrupt the the snout singing i see but yeah this is something they've actually, like they've referenced on like an old episode of the UK version of The Office. Also Wynton Marsalis did a live cover at Lincoln Center.
Starting point is 00:17:15 That's great. Which is pretty good. Yeah. Cake, the band Cake has done a version of this song. I just, I don't know. I remember kind of rediscovering it in high school and just being kind of delighted by it. It's super catchy and charming.
Starting point is 00:17:30 And I wanted to talk about it. I'm glad you did. I wonder how many of our listeners, like, haven't ever heard Monomena before. I imagine there's some of them, at least. Right? It just feels like one of those things that people just know about. But I may be wrong about that. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:18:33 Going into round two of COVID. Yeah, sure. Where you're like, oh, I really thought by this year I'd be able to do it up wild. But here we are. That just means that birthday season 2022 we're gonna go triple in the paint like we're gonna go really we're gonna that one's gonna be unsurvivable that one's gonna be some deep impact level like cataclysmic of birthday event it's gonna be there's gonna be a new leading cause of of serious illness and it is going to be birthday parties. It's going to be this. Particularly speaking,
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Starting point is 00:20:35 Minority Corner, because together we're the majority. Hey, I'm going to talk about my second thing, and it uh it's it's gonna be pretty fast because uh it's a very visual thing and i'm not great at talking about those because hearing somebody describe visual things on a podcast is not the most fun thing in the world but i'm gonna talk about photoshop whoopsies photoshop i don't want to say photoshop fails but there's not really a great it's like a pretty succinct way of describing. It's like codified. That's what you say when you mess up a Photoshop.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Or more specifically, you catch a Photoshop that has been altered in some way, either by a person who's just trying to stoke their ego a little bit, or by a company who is trying to sell you goods and services uh by way of altered imagery uh i just love this shit it's very very good intoxicating i think maybe it's because editing photos is inherently a bit deceptive especially when used for sort of commercial purposes and catching someone in the act like that has a feeling it has like a sense of justice to it like you thought you could lie to me but you can't because i saw through it and also i guess just sort of like as a visual humor like mechanism it can be extremely good to see how badly uh editors can truly fuck up the
Starting point is 00:22:08 human form uh by way of of editing just like thinking about somebody opening up their computer like snidely whiplash like i know i'll use computers to make myself seem like i have a six pack so there's a few different sort of broad categories, I feel like, of these kind of Photoshop whoopsies. And the first one is just like where an editor drags and drops something into a photo where it wasn't before, like a credit card that just kind of like hovers over a model's hand because they wanted the credit card to be bigger in the photo or there's a great one i saw today of a car driving down this windy road but the car is clearly taken from like a very high resolution indoor like stock photograph and doesn't look anything doesn't look like it's in the same dimension as the road that it is driving on in the background um those are great to me because sometimes also you can get fucked up senses of scale which is very funny to me uh that
Starting point is 00:23:12 i i saw one of a a party of people holding a selfie stick to like take a picture of themselves but the selfie stick was going in like they were holding it towards themselves. But the photo you could see on the camera was still far away. So like that's impossible that that could work like that. There was one of a family watching a movie on the console of a car. But they seemed like the family was like 14 inches tall sitting in this monstrous vehicle. Or like an outdoor grill that is sold on Amazon where the grill is bigger than the family trying to use it. And it's like, this is something I always assumed didn't happen as much, you know, like if it's felt really excusable kind of at the beginning
Starting point is 00:23:57 of photo editing, but I kind of figured this didn't really happen anymore. No, it happens so much. It still happens a lot. Because I think folks try to do a lot of promotional materials themselves because they feel cocky. I can use Photoshop. If I tried to Photoshop a promotional material, it would look like this. It would look very bad.
Starting point is 00:24:16 It's just that I don't have the kind of hubris to think I could do this. Not I should pay somebody who actually has the skills to do this. Yeah, yeah. It is a little prohibitive. I think these companies probably reach out to like, quote, experts in the field, not really having any understanding of what's involved.
Starting point is 00:24:33 And they're like, well, that's probably what it's supposed to look like. Yes. The second sort of broad category is typically it involves like models. And it also involves the complete either removal or duplication of their limbs, which I think is satisfying to catch those because of the sort of way that Photoshop's have been used to maybe paint a unrealistic standard of beauty that has been detrimental, let's say, to the fabric of society. So seeing a whoopsie like this is pretty astonishing and incredible to me. There's a Vanity Fair series of photo shoots that they do with just like a bunch of celebrities wearing nice clothes just kind of piled up together. And I feel like those you can always find like, whose ankle is that?
Starting point is 00:25:29 There's a great one that Annie Leibovitz actually shot. I don't know if she, you know, I don't know how the post-production on photography like that works, but there's a couple photos and for whatever reason, it's always Reese Witherspoon has just like eight legs, like so many legs, too many legs. There's a great poster from the movie Ready Player One of like the protagonist and he's climbing down a ladder on the side of the photo. And one of his legs stretches down like two lungs or rungs and it's longer than the rest of his body, like twice as long.
Starting point is 00:26:04 He has this one monster leg uh those are just those are more rewarding to me i think because they're harder to spot yeah it's kind of fun what happens in your brain because you always feel that very specific like wait that no that isn't the it's a light purport you're like you're like figuring it out you're like doing the calculations in your head like is that possible i don't think it is i feel like the poster of my brother my brother and me the cso put together my arm looks a little bit my arm looks a little bit wild justin's head looks a little bit it was definitely photoshopped like i have my arm on travis's shoulder and it seems like a pretty wild angle, but Justin's head,
Starting point is 00:26:45 I mean, no, Justin's head doesn't look like that fully doesn't look like. Yeah. Y'all have had a number of like kind of professional photos taken. That has to be one of the worst. Yeah. It's,
Starting point is 00:26:56 I mean, the photo is great. It's just Justin's head. Anyway, the last camp is what I call dad's first Photoshop, which somehow just gets published for everybody to see. And it's just like, it's so bad. What were you thinking? I want to be in the room where that got approved to go.
Starting point is 00:27:14 I feel like college admission brochures always have copied and pasted crowds of people. They're in the background of like a madden video game or it's just like the same 10 people over and over and over again uh there's one that i saw today where i was just like looking up the best sort of photoshop mistakes and there's one of a book uh that i guess you can get on amazon called the ultimate guide to dog breeds which has just this blue sky background on the front and then this just really dopey looking golden retriever like looking up and at an angle into the sky and they've just sort of
Starting point is 00:27:51 copied and pasted that exact face on that exact dog like three times side by side it's really really incredible and it's like it represents a a level of confidence in one's technical skills and one's computer skills that just doesn't reflect what is reality. That's just, oh my God. It's very nice. I could drink it up. Yeah. Yeah, that's it. I don't have much else to say.
Starting point is 00:28:19 It's just one of those things. There are very few sort of internet funny things that when I see them i am tickled by them every time and i feel like photoshop mistakes because of the sense of justice you get and in pointing out these these deceptions is uh good yeah every time always satisfies what's your second thing uh my second thing is is something that is relatively new to me and that is maker spaces. Yeah, I don't know that. Oh, like places where people get together and make stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:50 I mean, it's pretty straightforward. Right what it says there on the tin, huh? Yeah, this is something I didn't really learn about until I was working at the community college I'm at now. And there began to be this funding push push of like people, like faculty approaching me saying like, there is funding available if you want to start or support a maker space and me having to kind of learn about what that is and what, you know, makes something fit that category. And so I did a little research to kind of figure out where this came from. Some of this came up in the TV show Making It, which we really liked a lot, with Amy
Starting point is 00:29:30 Poehler and Nick Offerman. This idea of getting back to this, creating things with your hands, and being completely creative and original and learning new skills to do something. Because I think that feels unique for our generation, maybe not as much for the one after. Because our generation's big push was computers. The big push was like, you're not doing anything by hand anymore. Everything is going to be on the computer. Feed these virtual fish. You don't need a hammer, get rid of the hammer, everything's on the computer now. And so we kind of learned technology. And now there's this push of like, well, let's still use technology, but let's use it to solve problems and work
Starting point is 00:30:18 collaboratively and make things. And this is something that is not that old. So there is a magazine called Make Magazine that started in 2005 that kind of encouraged people to gain new skills and start hobbies and build these communities. California held the first Maker Faire after that. And then it's actually President Obama in 2009 started an Educate to Innovate campaign where he said, I want us all to think about new and creative ways to engage young people in science and engineering, whether it's science festivals, robotics competitions, fairs that encourage young people to create and build and invent, to be makers of things, not just consumers of things. And that movement in 2009, the first maker fair at the White House was in 2014. And that's kind of when you started to see this like national push.
Starting point is 00:31:17 Yeah. So it was less in these like hubs of innovation and more like everybody can do this. Part of it too was kind of the democratization of of these cool new technologies that people didn't have right now 3d printers and workshops and labs in these open spaces so that people could come and use these tools that they couldn't afford on their own right kind of create things together in, there was a maker movement manifesto, which was published that identified the nine fundamentals of the maker movement, which include make, share, give, learn, tool up, play, participate, support, and change. So it was just this idea of like,
Starting point is 00:32:00 you know, you don't have to have this like super fancy education or the income that will get you access to these things. You know that there is an opportunity for people to come together regardless of class or background and kind of create these new things that solve problems and kind of add value. That's awesome. This is also something like there are hackerspaces. Sure, yeah. And something called Fab Labs, which started at MIT. It was actually in 2002 they opened the first Fab Lab, which is exactly what I said, is to democratize the tools for students at a place like MIT. That would be a tremendous opportunity for a lot of people. But the idea of designing, fabricating, testing, debugging, monitoring, analysis, documentation. The college
Starting point is 00:32:52 I work at has started this whole kind of movement around this. And so at the college I work at, we call them incubators. And so they have like a biotechnology incubator and a fashion incubator and they're getting ready to open a manufacturing incubator and it's this idea that these startups that don't have access to the best equipment or the you know the commercial space can come use these places so let's get a big hen to just sit right on them right right? Until technology comes out. I know the incubator term like has become very popular and we have definitely run with it. But yeah, I think thinking about it
Starting point is 00:33:35 as like a STEM opportunity is cool too because if you think about it, when you're a kid, you're doing more of the hands-on stuff. You know, like you're making the Rube Goldberg machine. You know, you're like dropping the egg from the roof. You know, you're like trying stuff and doing it in a very accessible way. And then I feel like by the time you get to high school, it's just like textbooks and memorizing equations. And you kind of lose that connection to it.
Starting point is 00:34:03 And the creativity that like gets people interested in science in the first place. And so this idea that there's like this movement around this and it's like giving people access to the tools and they can use the AutoCAD software and the laser cutter and they can like figure out what they want to make with other people that are equally excited. Like that's huge for STEM in particular. And so, yeah, there's a lot of libraries or kind of big locations for this, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:33 anywhere like where the public can gather. I mean, you'll see a lot of them on college campuses, but the library thing is cool too, because it kind of removes that, that kind of of gatekeeper higher education element. And I just thought it was cool. That's awesome. I wanted to share that because I feel like, you know, our education swung so far in the direction of like, you're never going to have to use your hands again. Right, yeah. And so it's cool to see that kind of swing back of like, well, no, wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Like we should probably still use our hands. Yeah. Hey, can I tell you what our friends at home are talking about? Yeah. Lily says, one thing I find wonderful are those Coke machines with the touchscreens that you might find at movie theaters or fast food places. Just the amount of drink options you have is so delightful. And the weird alternate flavors are so funny, like lime Fanta. Of course, I always use them to get high C. They have them in every dining hall on my campus. Wow. I do like those.
Starting point is 00:35:29 I feel like I've had very limited exposure to them. I feel like it's mainly is like the purview of, you know, when you go inside a fast food restaurant. Yeah. I don't even know that I've had access to it at the movie theaters. I feel like a Taco Bell is the first time I've ever seen that. A Taco Bell is definitely going to have that. I always do get nervous if there's like a line of people in front of me. I'm like, oh my gosh, who knows how long this is going to take?
Starting point is 00:35:51 Because everybody wants to like- Chop and screw. Everybody wants to be soft drink Picasso. Lindsay says, small wonder when you pick the exact right size Tupperware for the amount of leftovers you have. I'm always tempted to pick a bigger one just to be safe. But when I pick the smaller one and it fits just right, it feels like a Goldilocks slam dunk. Oh my gosh. I have a meeting to talk to you about this, Griffin. Uh-oh, what's wrong?
Starting point is 00:36:13 I feel like your Tupperware choices are too large. Yeah. Well, we have a lot of large Tupperwares, but also I don't want a messy two small Tupperwares because my spatial awareness skills are limited. You know what I mean? I guess I just want you to be better. I can't believe you elected to have this fight on the air. What's that say about
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