Wonderful! - Wonderful! 218: Grabby Pincher

Episode Date: March 2, 2022

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Hi, this is Rachel McElroy. Hello, this is Griffin McElroy. And this is wonderful. Welcome to the show. Welcome to the rodeo, people. Hang on for the ride of your life. People do describe our podcast as a thrill ride. As a thrill ride rodeo where you're the rodeo cow person and riding on the back of the biggest buck in Bronco.

And that's me and Rachel coming at you fast and angry with our- Yeehaw. Goose and yeehaw folks uh saddle up your horses we got a trail to blaze that is i believe the opening lyrics to a stephen curtis chapman song and this is something that you and me just cannot vibe on uh no that's 100 true okay can i say one more thing though yeah is it rodeo related? Yes. Okay, okay.

Get along. Get along, little doggies. Yeah, sure. I mean, the Hey Dude theme song, I think provided a lot of us with a lot of sort of rodeo vernacular that we could use to impress our friends and family. This is wonderful.

It's a show we talk about things we like, things that are good, things that we're into. And do you want to maybe kick things off with us? You want to kick things off with us for a small wonder? Ooh. Yeah. Okay.

That's a way to get into it. I guess so. There's some particle confusion there. This may be a little blue. Oh, shit. Yesterday, I was on a walk with our son. Yeah. And Griffin was driving driving up and when we got to the house yeah he told me he recognized me from the back yeah and i just kind of loved that well

it was true and then you know i i know your body you were also wearing a baby carrier yeah which that's a tip-off which is a tip which was a bit of a tip and like my hair and my pants i mean i was not in disguise no no i mean you do sometimes like to cosplay when you go on walks um like dr mario and that pikachu costume that pikachu costume that suggested to a lot of my Instagram followers that we have a very particular kink. Yeah, I just, I don't know. It made me happy. That's nice.

That is nice. Laser tag. Wow. Yeah. Are you squinting because you're not sure if you've said this before? Yeah. It's neat, man. Yeah, it is.

It's the most sort of laser exposure I'll probably have in my lifetime. And what a fun way to play with lasers. We've certainly talked about laser tag before. I'm 100% sure of it. Yeah, but it probably wasn't a small wonder. You probably did a whole feature on it. I did a whole feature. I just want people to know, quick update, still thinking about laser tag.

You probably did a whole feature on it. I did a whole feature. I just want people to know, quick update, still thinking about laser tag. I bet you are counting the days until Henry is old enough to participate in that activity. In laser tag? Yeah. I think it'll be a while. Yeah, I mean, that gear is pretty heavy. Yeah, yeah.

We also don't like play guns very much. That's true. Even, you know, cool guns like lasers. We have made a lot of questionable decisions in our parenting. Oh Christ. Yes. But I do take it as a point of pride that Henry does not have a lot of weapons.

Here's the thing. The fort, here's the thing, gang, the Fortnite toys are dope. They're very well-made toys. You just got to sneak those little rifles and bazookabas and all that jazz out of the package where he's not looking and let him play with

the very cool action figures that have hamburgers for heads? Are you kidding me? That is fun. Great toys. You go first this week. I do. I'm ready to receive your joy and warmth. Thank you. So it's March.

It is. March Madness, baby. And it's also the month of the woman. It's Women's History Month? Correct. Yeah. Cool. What else could I mean by that? Well, just like Women's Month.

Women's Month. So I wanted to bring a lady poet. Okay. Oh, you can't just backdoor. You can't just sneak us into the backdoor of the poetry corner. Ah, yes. Would you like? Okay. Poetry corner. I was only in scrambled poems. Okay. There we go. Sorry, I didn't mean to rush that.

Well. I just wanted to lead first with the timeliness of my suggestion. Sure. And then I realized that I had kind of walked around the corner. Mm-hmm. And now I want to get back in it. Yeah. My poet.

Yeah. Nicole Seeley. Nicole Seeley. New poet. Can I say something? And this is not a lie. I feel like I recognize the name. Wow, huh?

Maybe somebody shared. Did she have a poem that went viral in some way? Because I'm not pursuing poetry in my off time. This is literally the extent of the poet. It's also possible she shares a name with somebody else. That's also possible. I may be thinking of Celie Posturepedic Mattresses. There you go.

So the reason I would be surprised if you knew her is Nicole Seeley's first full collection of poetry didn't come out until 2017. Okay. So this is not necessarily somebody you would have learned about in school. Probably not. Because you were not in school in 2017. In my defense, though, I think I learned about a sum total of two poets when I was in school. Uh, Robert Frost.

Yeah. And one of the other big ones. I mean, you talk a lot about E.E. Cummings. Yeah, okay, two is an exaggeration. I definitely read some Maya Angelou and Robert Frost. Did I say him? Yeah, you definitely did. Okay, so Nicole Seeley.

She is a black woman poet living in brooklyn new york um she is a visiting professor at boston university and teaches at the mfa writers workshop uh what's a visiting teacher visiting professors this is interesting this happens a lot with like writers uh they are not like full-time faculty they are brought in kind of on like a like a fellowship or you know like they are not committed to teaching there indefinitely they're like brought in as like kind of a i mean for lack of a better word showpiece for the institution of like look look at this great writer we have don't you want to study here now i feel like marshall had i mean it's probably a common thing at schools as like a seminar series that you can take as a class where it just be like this person's come to give this seminar series here at Marshall for one semester and then poof, they're gone.

Yeah. So anyway, she teaches at the MFA Writers Workshop at NYU, which is also the workshop that she attended when she got her MFA. That's great. the workshop that she attended when she got her mfa that's great i i did a lot of research for this because she's like a really cool complicated poet and i wanted to make sure that i didn't like undersell her okay uh in the process i found out about the cave canem foundation which is a non-profit uh that is committed to supporting africAmerican poets through fellowships, workshops, and a national community. She was the executive director there from 2017 to 2019. Okay.

And so it seems super cool. Basically, it's very accessible, localized workshops for African-American writers who would potentially not have the opportunity to enter into those conversations otherwise. And they provide grants to writers? Yeah, fellowships. So if you wanted to participate in one of their workshops

or just further your education through them, they have that opportunity for you. That's great. Yeah. So she came to poetry, I mean, I don't want to say late, because she is a woman in her 30s. I feel like every poet you talk about is like, she was a carpenter until she was 71. And then she released her first book of poetry yesterday. I think what is interesting, there are a lot of people now who go straight from high school to college, straight from college to an M mfa program and so they are entering that mfa program when they are 23 24 right um she worked a full-time

job for almost eight years and was writing a little bit but wasn't able to really finish or focus on it and at that point she decided to formally begin studying poetry at NYU, which is obviously a super risky, hard decision to make. Yeah. It seems like a tough school to study, like a demanding poetry program. Well, yeah. And also just the idea of leaving like a steady job to pursue a degree in poetry is like,

I mean, it's a big investment in yourself, but not necessarily your income. So I wanted to read a poem from her book, Ordinary Beast, which came out in 2017. That's a great name. Mm-hmm. That is called, The First Person Who Will Live to Be 150 years old has already been born that is some sufjan stevens link levels of stuff i'm i'm all about that her her poems like really run the gamut of like you know like outwardly political she did this great like really cool series are you familiar with erasure it's where the band no i try to

discover it's where you take a document oh sure and you eliminate some of the text and kind of what remains is is a poem uh-huh so she took the department of justice 2015 report on the Ferguson, Missouri incident. Yeah. And erased elements of that report to kind of create poems. And she took chunks of that and did like, so for example, like the one I just showed you is pages one through four, an excerpt from the Ferguson report, an erasure. It's an incredible series. But that's not what i'm going to read to you i'm going to read to you this poem that i just named the first person who will live to be 150 years old has already been born you think it's me

oh yeah who i mean we're gonna have to make some changes yeah i do some pretty hard living i wouldn't say you participate in dangerous activities. I certainly don't participate in healthful activities. I do a wordle every day, keeps my mind sharp. Today's was bullshit, by the way. Did you do it? I did, I got it, though. It's garbage.

I'm always happy when I get it. Yeah. Okay, sorry. Okay. Should I read the title again? No. Okay. And there is an inscription here for Petra.

Scientists say the average human life gets three months longer every year. By this math, death will be optional, like a tie or dessert or suffering. My mother asks whether I'd want to live forever. I'd get bored, I tell her. But, she says, there's so much to do, meaning she believes there's much she hasn't done. 30 years ago, she was the age I am now, but unlike me, too industrious to think about birds disappeared by rain. If only we had more time or enough money to be kept on ice until such a time science could bring us back. Of late, my mother has begun to think life short-lived. I'm too young to convince her otherwise.

The one and only occasion I was in the same room as the Mona Lisa, it was encased in glass behind what I imagine were velvet ropes. There's far less between ourselves and oblivion, skin that often defeats its very purpose. Or maybe its purpose isn't protection at all, but rather to provide a place, similar to a doctor's waiting room, and wish to sit until our names are called. Hold your questions until the end. Mother measure my wide open arms. We still have this much time to kill. Wow. God, that last line is- I know. Isn't that lovely? Yeah. That poem takes you some places it sure does yeah it definitely does uh one of the things that is another well i guess i should say another thing that is impressive to

me about nicole seeley is that she uses form a lot so this idea that you know like like a sonnet for example there are a set number of syllables and a set number of lines um i am not honestly i am not learned enough to tell you what form that was in uh haiku oh it's a long one yeah um but she gave an interview to the believer in 2018 you remember believer yeah i. Yeah. Is it not around anymore? I don't know. I mean, I didn't know it was still around in 2018, to be honest. But she said, for me, form is a way into and out of most poems. Form lends itself to music, imagery, and associations that probably wouldn't occur otherwise. The challenge of getting from point A to point B in a fixed number of beats

or the challenge of rhyming one word with another and the poem still making poetic sense for me creates a heightened sense of imaginative urgency that informs interaction with my free verse poems uh and then she goes on to say uh that's how i imagine a poem like the one i just read i mean i could read the title again but i feel like it's pretty familiar at this point. She says, that's how that one is able to leap from a conversation about getting older to the Mona Lisa. The associative quality of my work comes from working in form. That poem was very good. Yeah, I know.

That's why I picked it. Yeah, I know. That's why I picked it. She says in another interview, or no, I think it was the Believer interview, she says her obsessions are love loss as well as the large and small violences that have shaped me. When asked kind of like, what is it that you write about right uh and so yeah it was hard for me to find two poems that were particularly similar like i when i was looking through her poetry it was like everything was was very inventive and covered a lot of ideas and uh felt very like uniquely her you know like once i had read enough of her poems it was very clear to me that like nobody else could have written them right uh and so yeah i just i wanted to share her i'm always excited to kind of share poems that are relatively new to publishing because i feel like hey you can get in at the ground floor i know yeah come over here come over here look inside my jacket pocket i've got a poem that you can't find anywhere else yeah it's it's very exciting and she is she is continually taking on new projects uh

in february as in last month it was announced that she will write a debut essay collection talking out of turn notes from the field which will quote interrogate the inherent biases racism and sexism deeply ingrained in the literary and arts world and ultimately within all liberal institutions and american socio-political structures while imagining an equation for justice fuck yeah damn yeah that's gonna be a big book just the the all the words on it yeah i it's it's the same publisher that published her first book so obviously they they have they have faith in her ability. I'm wondering if her poems, the Ferguson Report erasures, kind of motivated them to take this idea seriously. Of course.

But, yeah. Exciting. Yeah. Exciting person, exciting work. Nicole Seeley. Keep it up. Get in there. Can I steal you away?

Yes. uh nicole seeley keep it up get in there can i steal you away yes oh we got trombone bobs here in the studio today and i want to read the first one it's for lulu and it's from mish who says hey lulu i still can't believe it's been eight and a half years from being dumb, anxious teens to slightly less dumb, but still anxious adults. I'm thankful every day that you're my partner and that I get to spend the rest of my life with you. I love you with all of my heart and soul. That's this very special, lovely message. And I think that going from a dumb, anxious young person to a dumb, anxious, slightly less dumb, anxious adult is like the new circle of life. Yeah.

It's funny when you look back and you're like, oh, I was so anxious then about totally different things. Yeah. It's like the Mitch Hedberg joke where he's like, I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to too. That's not actually what that is like. but man, that's a great joke. Hey, do you want to read the next one? Yes. This message is for Amanda.

It is from Demond to my magnificent wife and best friend, Amanda. You are the sun. You are my moon. I am so happy to be with you and our beautiful children. I hope you pass your mammo registry test is the test you take to prove that you know the most about woolly mammoths and other ancient packaderns. And then what are those initials that you get after your name if you pass the mammoth test? If you pass the, I mean, JPD, and that's the doctorate in Jurassic Park. They didn't have mammoths at Jurassic Park, did they?

And I think that that's a huge oversight. It is. This is me as a little kid going to Jurassic Park like like yeah there's t-rexes and velociraptors but where's the woolly mammoths guys because i just saw ice age and that shit was funny can i tell you though technology back then was not super great at anything woolly so i imagine that's true backed away from it yeah that's true the cgi people were like good news guys we can make dinosaurs and like what about woolly mammoths like no it has to be perfectly hairless The CGI people were like, good news, guys, we can make dinosaurs. And they're like, what about woolly mammoths?

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Are we allowed to say that? I don't know. It sounds bad. It comes with a 100% happiness guarantee. It does not. Come for the games and stay for the chaos. I would like to tell you about my thing today. I'm curious what you call it. It's one of those things that like has many names.

If you're at an arcade and you see one of the things that has a claw that goes down to get prizes. Yeah. What do you call that? Claw machine. Claw machine. Okay. There's so many different ways of referring to these things, including. Wait, can I guess?

Yeah. Grabby pincher. No, claw cranes or skill cranes. Oh, skill cranes. I like skill cranes a lot. Makes you feel really good about being able to do well it sure does so last weekend Henry and I visited a Dave and Buster's

adjacent establishment not in that it was next door to a Dave and Buster's no but that it was sort of it had Dave and Buster's-esque elements which is a huge huge huge arcade place that we spent like three hours in and it kicked ass that's unreal to me that you spent that long there, by the way.

It's big, man. There's a lot of things to do there. Well, yeah. And just the fact that our son can't really do anything for more than an hour. That says a lot. He can play crane games for sure. The highlight for me was that for the first time in forever, like I won some stuff out of some claw machines i have never won anything you're kidding me i mean i will say that i probably spent maybe three dollars on a claw

machine my entire life so that may suggest why i have not been more successful they are and i'm going to get into sort of the dark math that goes into those games but like you'll find some sometimes that are like oh this one actually is a this one actually works at one we stayed at some wintry resort thing for a church retreat like a winter retreat one time and there was a small arcade there and the claw machine for whatever reason was tuned to the point where like the claw would close with an iron death grip around like would just squeeze every sort of thing that you close it around and we literally cleaned it out uh over the weekend like that's wild to me that is what has always been so discouraging about those machines for me is that i see the way that claw comes down yeah and it just like

pets lightly like pets the item. Again, something that can be tuned. Yeah. And it makes me think like, oh, nobody ever gets anything out of this. Yeah. That one was certainly tuned incorrectly. And the owners and operators of that arcade almost certainly took a bath. But again, I'll get into that in a bit.

So claw machines are actually part of a subset of arcade games that like conceptually makes sense. I did not know they have a name though. They're called merchandisers and they literally just show you merchandise that you can win with, you know, skill and luck. And also assuming the operator of the machine has not like made it like a complete rip off. There's two main modes of interacting with a claw machine. And I knew this, but like one of them is very rare in the States,

but is way more common in like the UK and Japan. And that's the two button claw machine where you have one that affects the sort of X axis of the claw and one that affects the Y axis of the claw. And you can only press each one once before the claw just automatically goes down. It's hardcore, right? Yeah. It's very, very, very skill-based. But here in the States, we value our freedoms.

And so we do the joystick one that you can move around to your heart's content as long as the time doesn't run out and then you drop it down. Most of the prizes included in these machines obviously are stuffed toys of some variety uh of course these days i feel like you see a lot more of like oh damn that's a nintendo switch in there there's some uh there's some airpods in there uh although i learned that uh like claw machine experts say like just don't even bother going for the ones that have boxes because like you can't grab a box with a claw that makes total sense to me it does it makes a lot of sense um i also like the claw machine games where you get the little candy with the little backhoe thing that drops down and just like scoops them up yeah that's fun i do like

that it's never good candy it's like here's. It's like, here are flavored Tootsie Rolls. Here's a lemon Tootsie Roll, kids. You like these, right? Oh, I do, actually. I actually do love a lemon Tootsie Roll. So, okay, the secret of how these claw machines work is the operator is able to tweak certain parameters to ensure that they are getting a certain amount of payout per prize value. a certain amount of payout per like prize value.

These days it's like just an app you have on your phone and you can adjust these different parameters just to ensure that you are getting like, if there's a toy in the machine that is worth $5 and you wanna get like a profit of $5 out of that, you tweak these parameters so that the machine does not pay out until $ dollars has been spent in pursuit of those prizes yes wow it's gross uh but here's here's some of the parameters

that you can change okay and some of these like if you've played a claw machine like you can probably suss out um claw strength which is like how hard the claw will clamp down on the thing and the claw aperture which is like how wide the fingers of the claw. Most claw machines, by the way, are three fingered claw machines. So claw movement speed, either as a whole or an individual axis. So you have like that granular level of control over it. Pickup strength, which is like how quickly the claw like lifts back up uh primary and secondary strength settings not sure what that means toy teasing on payout based

machines when a toy teasing when toy teasing is enabled the claw will pick up a prize for a set amount of time before dropping it giving the player the impression that they nearly won yes yes i have definitely seen that happen. Yeah. So hearing that, you're probably thinking two things. The first of all is like, why are you talking? This sounds gross. Why are you talking about this? The second, I'll answer that later. The second thing is like, isn't this gambling?

And the answer to that is like, it depends on who you ask. Largely speaking in the United States, claw machines are not governed by the same sort of statutes that govern like other gambling machines yeah um except in like certain places so in michigan the value of the prizes has to be below a certain threshold uh so i guess that they don't have the airpods as much i don't know michigan friends can maybe confirm that or deny that for me um and also like the machines have to be proven to be beatable like you have to show that that the machine can work but then like in a few places in canada they're straight up considered games of

chance and are therefore like prohibited except in uh fairs and other sort of like specialty cases where, you know, I guess gambling is cool. Well, I think if it was at a fair, for example, like there are a lot of games of chance at a fair. That's a good point. I think you would understand more like I am paying money for something I'm not. For nothing.

I'm not actually going to get. In Japan, like these types of arcade machines are everywhere uh because like japan is where these electronic claw machines really came up uh the first one was released in 1965 by sega uh and it was called skill digga uh that was followed by super skill digga in 1968, which used dolls as prizes. And that is what sort of began this symbiotic relationship between plush toy manufacturers and, you know, skill claw game manufacturers that, you know, persists to this day. The most popular brand of claw games is called UFO Catcher, which has been around since the 80s.

And what makes it distinct is, one, it's a pretty cute aesthetic, especially most of the toys that are inside of it are in the sort of Hello Kitty, Sanrio milieu. But also the claw only has two fingers. so it's like a pincer that goes down and and grabs stuff which seems like way more difficult to me um why do i like claw machines well i'm glad you asked i don't know i feel like i if you know the inherent sort of like uh manipulation that is that powers these bad boys you can be a little bit more savvy about like, you know, when we were at this place and we saw like this claw machine with like these stuffed banana characters.

And he's like, give me one of those. I was like, okay. And I used the claw and it went down and just very limply like, whoop. And I was like, nope, we're not doing that again. That was a waste of money. He was like, oh. But then we went to one that had like a bunch of like stuffed Minecraft toys. And he was like, I want that creeper.

And I was like, okay. And I like got it in one and was like, okay, that's a good one. Although I do admit that I then spent more time trying to get a little Enderman out of there that didn't fucking come out. Because it was. Anyway. I do admit that I then spent more time trying to get a little Enderman out of there that didn't fucking come out because it was. Anyway, it is a waste of money like almost all things at an arcade are. But when you do manage to see the light in the child's eyes that you have impressed by grabbing a creeper out of the machine. There was another one that was very small that had like little stuffed food toys in it, like little like rubbery foam foods. And I got a couple out of there and was like,

dad of the year. And I felt so accomplished. That's a high stakes game you played. It is a high stakes game. Because what if you left with nothing and he just would have thought about that forever. Just like my father can't deliver. Yeah.

No, yeah. It's certainly a concern of mine. But luckily I'm a 100% real gamer since birth and crushed it. Henry does call Griffin King Gamer sometimes. He recognizes that, I mean, the games he asks me to play with him for help are not. They're games that I can pretty confidently listen to you destroy i'm just saying like you know i've been playing elden ring and just like you know grinding through boss after boss after boss so when he's like hey can you help me with this plants versus zombies

level i'm like yes i will teach you of my resource ladder that I build with sunflowers upgraded to double-headed sunflowers. So anyway, I'm a cool man. And that is, I mean, it should always be the takeaway when you listen to this podcast. I should just end every episode with that reminder. Thank you to Bowen and Augustus for the use of our theme song, Money Won't Pay. You can find a link to that in the episode description.

Thank you to Maximum Fun for having us on the network, having a great time over here at Maximum Fun headquarters. They got ping pong table in the break room. And we have tournaments every Tuesday. We call it Ping Pong Tuesday. Okay. And it's a new month. We got new merch over at McElroyMerch.com. We just announced that we're going on tour again for Mbam Bam and Taz.

And we got a show in St. Louis that we talked about doing a live wonderful at. Yeah. I mean, can we say that'll happen? Yeah, sure. Okay. I mean, it's our podcast. We can say anything. You can find all that over at McElroyFamily.com or TheMcElroy.Family.

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And we're, we're excited to get, get back out there and do the dang thing. Before we go, can I mention that the Cave Canem organization is a nonprofit and does take donations? Of course. So it's cave, C-A-n-e-m poets.org um i did make a donation after i found out about it because it seems super cool and super important and uh you know me i'm all about those those literary non-profits yeah uh so if, you know, sounds good to you, check it out. Yeah. Um, that's it. We'll be back next week to tell you about more, um, more great stuff. I hear you say like more bullshit.

No, no, it's great stuff. Uh, we, the show we make is, uh, we tell you like, how else are you going to know about, um, you know, that jelly beans are good. Yeah. Cap'n Crunch is an important historical figure. Cap'n Crunch is, he is a hero, a naval hero. Different ways you can eat spam. Yeah.

Cool astronauts who like to eat space sandwiches. Yeah. who like to eat space sandwiches. Yeah. You know, that's just some of the highlights, but I think we should definitely get a MacArthur Genius Grant. And I don't know who you talk to about that. Like, I don't know who MacArthur is.

Is there like a MacArthur Smart Grant? Like, can we- Oh, I see. Can we like a step down? Hey, I recognize this is not a Genius Grant podcast. No, God see. Can we like a step down? I don't, I, I rec, hey, I recognize this is not a genius grant podcast. No, God no. But. It's smart, it's smart enough.

Yeah. They get, they should give us $50 just to go out for lunch. I would like that. Yeah, I would like that too. Hit me up, MacArthur. Money won't pay, workin' on it. I'm ready. I'm ready.