Wonderful! - Wonderful! 237: Emily Ssspinach

Episode Date: July 13, 2022

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penultimate recording in this space yeah we've already said goodbye to a lot of friends in here because i've put them in boxes yeah and then we said not really goodbye as much as see you later see you soon buddy uh-huh and um ah gosh i'm gonna a lot of memories in this space huh and these old these old bones. Look around at the bones, huh? You don't care. You're so ready to be rid of these bones. I admit that the office has always been kind of your space. I don't think of it that way.

And when I walk into this room, I think like, I don't have to worry about anything in here. That's good, okay? I do like that. We aim to please here in this, here in the studio. Uh-huh. Um, yeah, we are, we are going to be moving like in six days, which sucks. That's so soon.

We have so much to do, babe. We'll figure it out. We always do. Yeah. I'm trying not to think about it, uh, in the moments when I can't physically do anything. Yeah, you're sitting at a desk and you're about to talk about- I can't pack right now.

You can't pack right now. You're about to talk about, you know, Honey Nut Cheerios or whatever. Wouldn't that be great if that was it? Like you just nailed it? One of these days I'm gonna guess it. I know. We are going to be on a bi-weekly schedule

for the next month. So no episode next week. We will have to be on a biweekly schedule for the next month. So no episode next week. We will have one the week after that that we're going to record probably in the next day or so. And then we will be skipping, I believe, the first week of August. And then we should be back in the saddle, baby. Yeah. We've never done a cross-country move together. So this is going to be something else.

It's going to be something else else. It's going to be something else indeed. It's going to be very good. We are not, we are fortunate in that we are not like driving a big U-Haul ourselves with our two children.

Christ, no, no. We have that under control, but we are definitely going to be ping-ponging around the country for a little bit. It's going to be kind of outrageous

these next few weeks that we have ahead of us. But I'm very excited. DC, very excited to get up in you. Austin, it's been so real. The threat of ERCOT rolling blackouts here in the home stretch is enough to kind of send me off with a little kick on the tuchus on our way out. And that's a shame. But we're ready.

And we hope you are too for Small Wonders. Because we're ready to talk about Small Wonders. And Rachel's going to go right now. Oh, man. Do you have one? I mean, it's just TV stuff. We finished Barry season three three which is maybe some of the best television i've ever seen cannot recommend it enough never seen it got so the

emmy nominations came out today oh yeah uh people are sort of up in arms because sadie sink who plays max on stranger things didn't get a nomination a lot of people were expecting that after that one incredible episode um barry got a nomination for best comedy series which like i get it i know this season in particular i would not classify no as a there weren't a lot of belly laughs as much as there were oh god oh god oh no um but we also just started murders in the only murders in the building season two and that show kicks ass too and we started watching Russian Dolls Season 2 last night too. And that show kicks ass. A lot of ass kicking on TV these days.

Yeah. A lot of good television. Yeah, that's 100% true. It's been nice in our sweaty AC free home on the first floor. I'm going to say I came up with one. Yeah, please. And I don't want to like buzz market a particular company. to say I came up with one. Yeah, please. And I don't want to like buzz market a particular company,

but I'm going to say that I was not aware that there is a company where you can sell your car to it. Yes. And you can do most of the work online and then you just show up and they give you the money that they told you they would give you. I like that. I haven't, I haven't gone through the process entirely yet, but we are going to become a one-car family when we are in D.C., so I'm getting rid of my car, and I was very nervous about that process because I have never sold a car before. Well, you've traded them in. Yeah, exactly. And then they kind of like wink at you and give you like 50 bucks. Yeah, right? Yeah, they give you a Taco Bell gift card.

But this is the first time that I've actually tried to sell a car. Yeah. And I was very happy that it was not nearly as scary as I was expecting. So stoked. I thought I was going to have to put it on Craigslist. Yeah. And then I was going to have to deal with. Get murdered.

Yeah, a lot of emails about like, well, I don't know. Show me a picture of the cup holder. And put your feet up by the cup holder when you do that. Yeah, I'm excited to reduce our carbon footprint by removing one of our feet. One of our car feet. Yeah. That's the company we're selling to, by the way, is Car Feet. Car Feet, yeah.

I go first this week. And the thing that I am going to talk about, I know empirically that you are not going to be very into because we tried talking about it last night and it was it was uh it was not your bag baby before you really get into it can i explain yes please okay but go ahead and say what your thing is mine is the uh the image that came out today that joe biden just threw up on the power presentation in the Rose Garden or whatever of the Webb's first deep field taken with the NASA's James Webb Space Telescope. Yeah. So here's the thing, and this is what I was explaining to Griffin.

Yes. I feel like the easiest way for me to get this across is to tell you that when I have dreams at night, for me to get this across is to tell you that when I have dreams at night, my dreams often involve navigating a grocery store and or being in a public place and realizing that I'm not wearing shoes or socks. And I say that because when it comes to space, it is so beyond my comprehension. I am so concerned with the minutiae that when someone talks to me about space. It's just your eyes just sort of glass over. Yeah. And so I see a picture of space and I think that's cool.

Yes. But like I can't get there, man. Here is why I want to take another swing at this. It's the coolest picture of space ever taken. Okay. And I think I can kind of try and explain why. to take another swing at this it's the coolest picture of space ever taken okay and i think i kind of try and explain why i have no astrophysics knowledge really whatsoever my understanding of this of this uh high-res glossy jpeg is is very rudimentary but even on that level there is so much cool shit going on uh that i can't help but

be like really really really fascinated and i also want to say i'm not one of those people that thinks like the moon landing was fake i just want to put that out there i believe space i believe you believe space i believe space i just like don't know how to be a space enthusiast so please please help me understand you i don't know that this is a space enthusiast. So please, please help me. I totally understand you. I don't know that this is going to get you there. Okay. Okay, so this image that came out yesterday, Webb's first deep field. I showed it to you. How would you describe it?

It's just a bunch of galaxies. It's just a whole bunch of galaxies. Yeah, it's a very dark photo with a lot of little light points, and there are varying shapes and sizes. Yes, and the image is of a resolution where you can really get in there and look at like these never before seen structures inside of each of these galaxies featured.

And it's dozens and dozens of them sort of occluded at points by these like very pointy looking stars that are just local stars like in our system that we have sort of snapped a picture beyond using the super deep infrared camera uh i i the the scale of that one image which like i'm sorry you're going to have to look up i feel like to really hang with this this segment if you

haven't seen it it is of a a portion of space that if you imagine holding a grain of sand and holding it out in front of you at arm's length that is the that grain of sand represents the actual space of space that this picture depicts it is microscopic on a sort of terrestrial level and even though it is such a small small small small portion of of our sky uh it has a lot of stuff going on inside. Yeah, there is a lot of stuff in that picture. So this telescope, the James Webb Space Telescope, just launched last December, I think. And this is the first image that has, like, come out from it, that has been made public from it. And this telescope is the most powerful telescope we've ever put in space by a pretty huge margin, right?

Up to this point, Hubble has been, which did I do a segment on Hubble? I think I might have. This may be my second space telescope themed segment on this show. Yeah, yeah. But the like mirror array and sensors and everything that are on the James Webb

are three times bigger than the Hubble. And it has all sorts of like sensors and things on it that the Hubble is just not capable of doing. It's able to, specifically, it's able to sort of pick up infrared light at like a way deeper wavelength from way further away and therefore way longer ago. That is the first thing that is kind of mind boggling about this image. What you see in this image, all of these tiny, you know, little blips of light galaxies floating in the void, what we are seeing is light that is billions of years old.

It is the youngest like picture of our universe that we've ever ever seen as humanity that we've ever seen one of the galaxies pictured i think they said was 13.1 billion years uh the light has traveled for 13.1 billion years to to reach this telescope which is wild their estimate is that we are seeing a portion of our universe from within 1 billion years of the big Bang. It's like the furthest out by a pretty wide margin that we have ever seen. That alone is very, very cool. A couple of sort of observations about the picture. I showed you the sort of distortion of some of the galaxies.

So some of the galaxies that are depicted are kind of like curved into these pretty dramatic arcs. Like it's not something that you have to really get in there and look at. Like some of the galaxies look like, you know, pretty archetypical galaxies that you have seen in space pictures from the past. And some of them look like capital C's, like they are really, really bent. What that is, it's called a gravitational lens. And essentially what that means is that these more dense clusters of galaxies form this gravitational force that bends space-time around them, creating a physical

fisheye lens effect. That's not some like, oh, the camera took a weird picture of these galaxies and therefore it distorted the image. Space itself is distorted by these really dense clusters of galaxies that form this gravitational lens. Like being able to see space time affected in a like very visible, very like surface level way is fucking bonkers it is a wild wild thing for me somebody who doesn't know anything it's about space and for like astronomers and shit who are learning a lot of things about uh our universe just from this one image that's not the only thing that is like new about this image that's not the only thing that people are studying about this image. The telescope captured the light from these galaxies, right? But using a sort of broad spectrum of sensors,

they were also able to sort of color code like the stuff that the signals that they received from these galaxies. And from that, they can learn about like the composition of the galaxy. So looking at the image, red galaxies are just obfuscated by so much space dust that they can't really penetrate and see what's going on in there uh there are blue galaxies in the image which have stars which have a lot of stars

and not much space dust and then there are green galaxies in the image, and those have like chemical compounds that they can kind of read in hydrocarbons, which is a word I wrote down without knowing what that means. The telescope also captured what's called spectra. And spectra is basically like readable data about distant objects like physical and chemical properties. Using that, they can study, like, they can reveal all sorts of stuff about the universe hypothetically, right? And about physics. Like, they can learn why galaxies form and combine.

They can learn what a galaxy that supports habitable planets looks like. And as an extension, extension like could potentially find out what types of galaxies could potentially have life living in these exoplanets inside of them yeah see that that makes it a little more real for me because that's the other thing i wondered like i never really understood like obviously space is incredible and exploring it is worthwhile and just how incredible it is. But like, what does it inform, you know? That's the thing is like this telescope represents such a tremendous escalation in our ability to see distant space and study distant space. space and study distant space uh and this is the i mean i don't have a whole lot to say i'm sort of running a rough shot over my notes here at this point but like that's the first image they're

expecting four more to come out this week uh from this telescope that is magnitudes more powerful than the most powerful telescope we've ever had before. There hasn't been like, at least from my sort of, again, layman's view, like some staggering development in our understanding of the physical universe that has like made huge headlines. I'm sure there have been, you know, obviously things that we have learned that have made small headlines that I couldn't be bothered to, to see, but like the potential from, from these images,

the potential of things that we have to learn cannot be understated. And the fact that like, there's all of this stuff that, that people are excited about that we could potentially learn from a single image that joe biden held up in front of the white house like look at this shit gang the first image of it right like the possibilities are literally endless this is a grain of sand that we are seeing in the sky that is like filled with all of this data and beyond that it is like tear-jerkingly beautiful like it is it is existentially sort of nourishing uh in a way if that is again your jam

which i understand if if it is not yeah i i i mean it is incredible. You know, like somebody I know posted that and gave like a Carl Sagan quote just about like our size. Our little blue dot. Yeah, our size in relation to the rest of the galaxy and the rest of the space, space place. It is, it's not, it's literally incomprehensible. The scale of it is incomprehensible. it's literally incomprehensible. Yeah. The scale of it is incomprehensible. And if I get thinking about that too much,

I like start, I do start to sort of, do you realize in a way I'm not a big fan of, um, but from a, from a, like this could, this could change everything perspective or if,

if not change everything, like it could introduce a whole new era of our understanding of, like, the universe of existence. Like, that's so powerful. That's very true. I feel like kids, with the exception of maybe Pluto, have been taught kind of the same thing about space for, like, generations now. Yeah. It would be interesting to see that change. And a lot of that gets lost in

the sort of like theoretical right which is not you know obviously has tremendous scientific value but now but i saw an image yesterday of space-time bending around yeah bending around shit and that's like that's i've never seen anything like that before in my in my whole life shit and that's like that's i've never seen anything like that before in my in my whole life yeah and that's like that's really cool and i think it's also i think it would be easy to kind of leverage the criticism of like uh everyone's fascination with this that that you know when it came out yesterday because this is happening it came out at a time that is like pretty horrific in civil civilization um specifically for you know the our our country and where where it is at and so it's easy to be like oh boy it's sure is bad here but man those

galaxies sure are pretty but yeah it's it is more this is bigger than that it's more fulfilling than there has to be space in our brains for those two things to coexist right like the the part of your brain that is like you know we are still under the stranglehold of this pandemic and we are in a situation where more resources could really help us. And also it's important to go to space and put a very expensive telescope up into the atmosphere and hope for the best because like doing both things is part of the human experience, you know? Yeah, sure.

I mean, there is, we have gained so much as human beings from our like endeavors into space from a like technological standpoint a scientific standpoint but also like i don't know from a philosophical standpoint it is i i think it's deeply important it is yeah it is a way of unifying the human experience, which there aren't a lot of ways to do that, to really be able to zoom way, way, way, way, way the fuck out and see this infinite cosmos beyond us. Obviously, that is very pie in the sky sort of uh thinking but it's i i think there is something essential about it and it it's just this is the

most exciting thing that i i can remember seeing uh sort of in that regard in my lifetime and that's and that's very cool i cannot wait for more of these images to come out. And that's never happened either, where it's like, you know, they'll have some deep space probes. It's like, hey, we got pictures of Neptune. And I'm like, whoa, cool, I'll check those out. But it is Neptune.

This is like the curvature of space-time that I can sort of make my fucking desktop background, which is just the coolest shit ever. Anyway, that's the James Webb telescope. And can I steal you away, please? Yes. Thank you.

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lighter side oh boy um mine also has to do with Joe Biden tangentially. Okay. Uh, because I'm going to talk about White House pets. Okay. I guess that is sort of tangentially real. I don't know anything about, I, I don't care about White House pets, so I don't really know anything about. So it's like me in space and that is completely fair. You know, I, I am not super interested in space.

Yeah. Which I would say is on equal level as White House pets. I think in the minds of a lot of the people who consume the things that we create, my general ambivalence towards pets is probably way more sacrilegious than your uh ambivalence about space yeah that's fair sorry folks that's fair they're cute i like looking at them we do not have a pet right now and we have had not for a while now and so we're kind of like falling out of the pet circle yeah but i think our ultimate plan is to get another pet at some point at At some point, yeah. When we have settled in our children. And we don't have two human pets. Our children are a little more self-sufficient. Yeah, absolutely.

I'm sorry I referred to our children as human pets. That's a really creepy way of saying that. I'm saying the level of exhaustion and destruction that is reaped is- It also makes me kind of like a cat in a cardboard box. A sort of brood mother. Yeah. I don't like it.

I don't either. So I was kind of interested in this because I've always been kind of fascinated with how the White House works. Yeah. You know, like how the residence is maintained and specifically how pets factor into that. I mean, yeah. I mean, you watch West Wing. You can't help but be a little

bit more curious about the day-to-day operation like where does toby well and i just think about again this is this is me being very practical at all times but like how how does that work like like for us getting a pet is a big decision because we have two young children. Yeah. To be the president. How much interfacing with the dog are you actually do? Yeah. Like to make a decision of like, I have to care for a pet. And then that be such an important part of being president. Because like in the history of the presidents going all the way back to George Washington.

Yeah. There have only been a few presidents that have not had pets. And we say pet, it's dog, right? Like it's almost, no. No, that's what's really interesting. Oh, boy. You go back far enough and there's all sorts of exotic animals. You're kidding me.

So James K. Polk, Andrew Johnson, and Donald Trump were the only presidents to not have pets. Okay. And they even say. A very exclusive club. This article even says like, although we should be fair, Andrew Johnson did find some mice in his bedroom and he did take care of them and feed them. So we could technically call them pets.

Hey, Andrew Johnson, that's fucking wild, dude. That's way wilder than having a pet, I think. wild dude that's way wilder than having a pet i think but yeah like if you go back wikipedia of course has an article about all the presidents and their pets and if you go back to george washington uh they're like there are pets listed like this is this is since the beginning of the presidency yeah it became kind of a media focus uh with warren g harding and laddie boy laddie boy was this dog was it a scottish terrier airdale terrier okay i don't know that is born in ohio yeah the dog or warren g the dog warren g harding i should specify do you think he ever said regulators roll out like do you think he ever

did now job griff what oh i was thinking of transformers yeah sometimes i get optimist prime and warren g mixed up it's fair uh no there's like there was a lot of uh media coverage uh this is when they started using the expression the first dog uh that's ridiculous they had like a whole process around managing the dog. The dog had his own hand-carved chair to sit in during cabinet meetings. Cool. Cool and great. The White House had birthday parties for the dogs.

That I paid for. That I paid for and you paid for. Well, I mean, it was 1920, so maybe our ancestors paid for. You know they're still doing dog parties. It'd be ridiculous if they weren't doing dog chairs now. Before I get into some of the variety of pets, I will say that I was surprised to find out that since the 1970s, there has been a chief groundskeeper and what they call dog whisperer extraordinaire in this article.

Is it Jackson Galaxy? Well, Jackson Galaxy was a cat man. Yeah, he was a cat man. Who was the dog one extraordinaire in this article. Is it Jackson? Well, Jackson galaxy was a cat, a cat man. Yeah, he was a cat man. Who was the dog one? Cesar Milan. Thank you.

No. So Dale Haney, uh, has been managing, uh, dogs in the white house, uh, since the seventies,

as I mentioned, uh, stories. You'll all. Yeah. Right. You'll often see some pictures of him out on the white house lawn with the dogs uh he's been on this since uh richard nixon

which is crazy what a tricky dick have you have a dog oh a few pets uh the the dog in particular is the irish setter king timaho some names on these presidential cups huh but i mean nixon is kind of famous for checkers which was the cat oh he got for for his kids i actually wasn't a cat it was a cocker spaniel sorry a lot of dogs a lot of dogs that's too many that's too many dogs do you think haney ever is just like someone rolls up with like 11 dogs and he's like god really so i wanted to highlight uh a notable president uh teddy roosevelt who had six kids and thus a lot of pets uh through the presidency um these pets include um a pony oh wow have a lizard. We have a snake called Emily Spinach. That's good. His daughter, Alice, named it Emily Spinach because it was green as spinach and as thin

as her aunt, Emily. That's so good. More ponies, dogs. You can't just say more ponies dogs. There's several ponies. That lived at the White House? Yes. Where? I mean, there's a lot of grounds. That they just converted into stables? I mean, they can do whatever they want when they're president. I guess so.

There was a small black bear named Jonathan Edwards. There was a what? A small black bear from west virginia named after the religious leader jonathan edwards as an ancestor of mrs roosevelt and eventually sent to the bronx zoo what i have a lot of questions wasn't that also the guy who did the like crossing over crossing over shit and was also like a debaucherous senator uh yeah okay cool all these things are true just a lot of great just a lot of really stand-up jonathan edwardses uh teddy roosevelt also had a pig a rat a bull terrier a rabbit cats a hyena an owl oh a hyena owl bill a hyena, an owl. Oh, a hyena, an owl?

Bill, a hyena named Bill, which was the gift from an emperor from Ethiopia. Well, you can't say no to that. Right. I get it. And then Fierce, a one-legged rooster. That is the wildest menagerie. How have I never heard about this? That we had a president who had many ponies and an owl and a hyena. Calvin Coolidge also had a lot.

I mean, just looking. Did he have a bear? A raccoon, a donkey, a bobcat. Why, guys? Another, yeah, we did have a bear, a black bear from Chihuahua, Mexico. He did have a bear a black bear from chihuahua mexico he did have a bear bruno okay um but mrs coolidge sent sent that one to the zoo okay but like did we have did we used to have bears as a people uh i mean i don't think your neighbors would have a bear but i think if you're

president important people were probably gifted bears occasionally and they that's why they he was like i gotta become president so i can have a bear and people won't say shit except my wife what'd you do with my bear uh and if you go forward in history then it's just a lot of dogs and cats boring yeah you don't see anything too crazy um after jfk jfk was kind of kind of the last uh ponies ponies no it's several bear you had a small army of bears yeah no ponies and and dogs and a rabbit and a horse and okay all right i guess you made it right like you did it so i guess you can have as many animals so one there is a presidential pet museum in 1999 that was developed but it was closed for renovations just a lot of pictures like telling stories about the presidential pets okay um the reason that i kind of got on this is in January 2022,

the Bidens brought a cat to the White House. Just for a day, though. Just so they had a guest pass. It's a cat. Actually, Jill Biden was giving a speech in Pennsylvania on the campaign trail, and this cat, like, jumped up on the lectern. And was tackled immediately. She was, like, giving a speech in a barn, and, like, this cat like jumped up on the lectern and was tackled she was like giving a

speech in a barn and like this cat and so then the owners of the barn were like you can have the cat clearly the cat is interested in you so that's wild here take this cat that's pretty wild i thought so too if i'm not if people if president's ever given a speech at my house and like one of our kids like runs up and like shoots silly string at him or whatever is your kid now it's your kid uh clearly likes you i was reading so i was reading about like where can this cat go what's the deal with the cat uh so they um the cat is primarily restricted to their residents uh on the second and third floor uh willow the cat uh particularly enjoys the solarium which is a bright space above the south portico yeah no shit it's a cat

but they also like will load her up into like air force one like when they go on vacation like they went to like the beach and they brought the cat with them to the beach yeah which is wild that's the thing a lot of like throughout the history of presidents a lot of them take a lot of responsibility for these animals you know like yeah there's uh stories about barbara bush when her dog had puppies like staying up all night with the dog and the puppies to make sure everything went okay so like it just it's really it's how hands-on you want to be, I guess. I guess so. There are maybe some other things that I would rather our nation's elected leaders to kind of pull up their fucking sleeves. I will also say in this article, they talk about how Willow is allowed in the East Wing and it has been known to take naps on the desk of the press secretary. That's got to be hugely insulting.

Yeah, somebody else I was reading about for the Obamas. Oh, here we go. Michelle Obama's press secretary said that Beau was at her job interview. Okay. So she's like sitting in Michelle Obama's office, and the dog comes running in first before the first lady. That's kind of a big dog, right? What was Bo? Yeah.

Oh, gosh. What is that? What are they called? It's like a very specific Portuguese water dog. Whoa. They got Bo first and then Sunny, who was also a Portuguese water dog. I don't know that one. I know Bo. I know Bo.

I know Bo. That's interesting. I've never thought about it before because I didn't know it was something I should think about. But knowing that we have had bears in the White House, which is the plot of a pretty good movie, I think. I don't know for sure they were allowed inside the White House, but I see what you're saying. You can't tell a bear where not to go. It a bear if it wants to go in the white house it now that we're talking about it let's just get let's get real so thomas jefferson had a bear

teddy roosevelt had a bear calvin coolidge had a bear and that is it just three so the three that i happen to speak that's the that's the we bear bears reboot that we've all been waiting for. Okay. Okay. So those are your presidential pets. It's an important part of the presidency. The most important part of the presidency. Given a lot of attention. I will say John Quincy Adams had silkworms and an alligator.

So this is a rich vein. Like this could be multiple segments ultimately. Why do you have an alligator? It was said to have belonged to the Marquis de Lafayette and housed for two months in the East Room. Although this story has been widely circulated, the lack of evidence from contemporary accounts or official records suggests an apocryphal myth. I did not think you would have an answer to that.

Literally. Some of these have a lot of details. At the hip. Ready to go. Yeah. Okay. You know what's fun is if you go back really far, like George Washington, for example, he had some foxhounds.

One of them named Sweet Lips. Okay. That's a pretty good name for a dog i guess yeah um hey thank you to bowen and augustus for the use of our theme song money won't pay you can find a link to that in the episode description description if you so choose uh we have some shows coming up very soon it's very soon you can get and uh find links to that i think at bit.ly slash mackroy tours we have merch over at mackroymerch.com and uh of course there's a whole bunch of uh other shows on the maximum fun network that we would highly encourage you to check out at maximumfun.org shows like a shows like a triple click and uh shows shows like a stop podcasting

yourself if you so if we need to stop saying if you so choose. I don't know why. We should say on those tours, the Portland and San Diego shows are sold out. One of the San Diego shows. Are there still tickets for Taz? No, that's sold out too. Oh, sorry, gang. Okay.

Good news, Salt Lake City. Yeah, if you are in or around Salt Lake City on July 20th, there are still tickets available. Yeah, that's coming up very soon. Okay, that's it. No episode next week as we uproot ourselves. We'll be back, I guess, on the week of the 25th

or something like that. And then we'll skip the next week. It'll be yes, the week of the 25th. Yeah. But then we're going to be coming at you with that DC energy. We're going to be rubbing elbows with all the presidential pets. Our podcast will be recorded while we are walking and talking. Yep.

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