Wonderful! - Wonderful! 243: Our Love Defies the Science

Episode Date: September 7, 2022

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Hi, this is Rachel McElroy. Hey, this is Griffin McElroy. And this is wonderful. Fresh off the road, Rachel and Griffin. Got the stink of the road still on them. Yeah. They travel back from Dragon Con 2022, where we glad-handed pressed the flesh, as they say in this industry. You made a face.

Yeah, I don't like that expression. I mean, I get it. I just, it- Well, we got to say hey to lots of people and they like came up and said like nice stuff about our show. That was great. And we said nice stuff about the costumes

they were probably wearing. But I didn't touch any of them. Oh, you didn't? No. Oh, well then, yeah, you didn't press the, I guess I did most of the flesh pressing for both of us. Yeah, thank you, I guess, yeah, you didn't press the, I guess I did most of the flesh pressing for both of us. Yeah, thank you, I guess, for that.

Because part of the contract is you have to press the flesh, it says it. And then it says in like asterisk, like what that means is up to you. So maybe yours was sort of like an emotional flesh press. Yeah, I'd like to think that happened. But it was good to see everybody. Thanks for coming out and saying, hey, if you did do that. If you didn't, that's okay. Don't worry about it. It's not like we were excited to see everybody. Thanks for coming out and saying, hey, if you did do that. If you didn't, that's okay. Don't worry about it.

It's not like we were excited to see you or anything. I had a lot of people talk about how they listened to this show, Wonderful, specifically when they were trying to sleep or relax, which I think maybe back in the early days, I would have felt like that was some kind of slight, but I get it. No. I get it. And let's be quieter, I guess. Oh, yeah.

Chill vibes. Nobody said anything, but there was an undercurrent of like, but keep it down. Some of us are trying to sleep over here. Do you have a small wonder? Because I do, if you're not ready're not yeah go ahead and go first uh we just streamed fortnight me and justin and travis that game is so preposterous that game is so ridiculous i thought it was all all about like the shooting even the shooting is like kind of cartoony. And like, I mean, it's guns. So like whatever. But also like I was Goku and I was like, I had like a grappling hook and I was swinging around.

And then I landed on the back of a big pig and I started to ride that. And me and Justin and Travis got in a car and we're driving. But we ran into Darth Vader who used the force to pick our car up and throw us through the air. And it's like, what? What happened? What, what was this game? So all the little toys that Henry gets that are Fortnite.

Those are all very real. They're like, they're like playable characters. Yeah. For the most part, there's a lot of characters in that game. John Cena is one of them. I got a, one of these days he's going to show back up in the rotation.

I'll spend as much money as I need to secure him, but it's just so silly. It's such a silly a silly silly game and i don't play it that often i only play it basically when we stream it and every time i do i'm reminded like it's a it's a marvel that this game exists where i can ride on a pig until darth vader throws my jetta into the sky um was that enough time it was yes uh so i made this thing for lunch that i have made before and the recipe is enormous and so it basically is going to be my lunch probably for the rest of the week unless you dip in okay which is okay well tell me what it is uh so it's quinoa which i'm good i know you're mixed about uh and it's got chickpeas and cucumber and red onion and parsley. Raw red onion?

Uh-huh. Okay. And parsley and garlic and olive oil and red wine vinegar. Sounds hearty. It's delicious. Hearty and kind of funky and uh yeah healthful healthful get you can put some feta in there i didn't happen to have any vegan feta on me no why would you but uh it's really good uh i have had this before i don't hate quinoa i just need it to i need it to soak up a lot of flavor like a lot of flavor yeah for it to gain entry

into my my sacred body uh-huh it needs to come with a lot of flavor as it's like special guest and um it sounds like this might get me you know what i'll eat some i'll eat some of your food i'll eat some of your quinoa food. Well, that was clearly my hope. You go first this week. I do. Do you want to hit me with it? Yeah.

What you got? So my thing this week is chemistry, specifically chemistry between people. Oh, yeah. Oh, you feeling this? I can feel it in the air. Pungent. The chemistry is these visible stink lines. Okay.

I'm just saying what I see. I don't know why. You see visible stink lines between us right now? Stink lines of tension of the romantic variety. And... This came up for a couple reasons for me. Okay. You can stop.

You can stop now. Thank you. One, Griffin and I continue, despite probably self-preservation instincts, to occasionally watch Married at First Sight. And I keep trying to put my finger on what it is exactly about the show that keeps pulling me back. And I think some of it is this idea that you could match people based on traits, and it could go so horribly wrong.

Or it could start good and then immediately fall apart. As is almost always the case. And I think some of that can be best described as chemistry. Yeah. I tend to be pretty logical. So for me, I don't know that I entirely believe in chemistry as a thing, but I know that I... Well, you believe that if you put, you know... Yeah, okay.

I know that if you mix... An alkaline... I'm trying to think of one chemistry thing to say. If you put N-A and C-L together... Bases, acids, and bases. It's a salt. And some of them is poison. Lots of them, it's poison. Lots of them, it's poison.

But yeah, I know that feeling when you meet somebody and you're like, oh, wow, this feels like there's an energy here. Oh, yeah. I'm going to be insufferable this whole segment. I'm realizing that right now. Okay. right now okay uh and and there is so there's not a lot of uh study on this but there is just enough okay i will also say that if you google uh what i did which was chemistry between people yeah uh you get so many sites that try and distill it to like a number of items. Here we go. So I have six traits that cause romantic chemistry, 17 signs of chemistry.

Well, is it six or is it 17? 30 signs of good chemistry, 18 signs of intense chemistry, 28 signs of good chemistry, chemistry between two people, or parentheses 13 undeniable signs. Okay.

So just a lot of, we need to get together and decide on what the correct number is. Which makes me wonder, are there people that enter a relationship and are trying to decide if they have chemistry? Like, who are these lists for? Yeah, I don't know. Like, wait a minute, do we have chemistry? Let me see how many

of these traits we have. We're both pretty logical people. The thought has never occurred to me to try to score our love value in some way. I know this is a thing when you're a teen. In the magazines. Oh, of course. It's like 15 signs your relationship will last.

Or take this quiz and find out if this is the right partner for you. Yeah. But yeah, as you get older, it starts to seem like less relevant i think yeah uh okay so the research i did find so there was an article in the association for psychological science december 2021 uh and they found a few things out about chemistry uh specifically chemistry is an emergent phenomenon. So it emerges from interactions rather than attributes, expectations, or biases. That makes sense.

Well, yeah, which makes sense. Like you can't really know if you have chemistry with somebody when you see them across a room. Yeah. You know? I mean, I did with you. Okay. I did with you. You saw me and you were like, oh, chemistry.

Well, I mean, my eyes turned into heart shape and they went hubba hubba hubba so loud that you heard me. My head became a wolf head for a few minutes. I mean, attraction is part of it. Yeah. I went boing. Pants got tight. I went boing. Pants got tight. I went boing and my pants got tight. Sorry, my head turned into a wolf head.

You remember all that? No, I don't. Maybe I looked away when all this was happening. I do not blame you. I had to go in an ambulance. Chemistry is a relationship effect. So it can be related to liking liking but it's broader than that it encompasses the feeling that a given relationship is special and different from

other relationships i feel that for sure that's a big thing for me honestly like i don't i don't know what it is about the way my head works but i need to feel like this is different, guys. Yeah, of course it is. That's not just you. That's probably not just me. I would hope it's everyone, right? You're probably right. Even if you haven't found that special someone yet, like, I don't know, you got to at least acknowledge that that feeling of this is a different one than the other ones is true.

Yeah. And that is something with Married at First Sight. You can tell how willing these people are and in some cases dependent on this being a thing very quickly. Married at First Sight is when two highly unqualified matchmakers come to you and drop you next to someone and then they tell you, you have chemistry. Whether or not you figure out why is up to you and drop you next to someone and then they tell you, you have chemistry. Whether or not you figure out why is up to you.

Yeah. Good luck. No, there is this mystery like, well, they must have matched us for some reason. We used to have a sex expert, but she's gone now. So you're on your own in that department too. Bye. Chemistry is often embodied, like eye contact, mimicry of facial and bodily expressions, synchronous movements.

What? You know what? I do remember when we were getting a ride back to my place when we were with our friends and we both had our head on the back of the car and we were talking about chicago and felt i felt very connected to you in that moment we had our head on the back of the car we both were like leaning our head back on the back seat of the car drunk we just could not you're probably thinking about how badly you had to pee because that's true immediately run into my house and do that it I did. It's a baller move.

Y'all can use that one too. If a girl you like is getting dropped off or she's getting dropped off first, you'll be like, hey, let me just dip on in there and wreck your bathroom. It was pee. It was just pee, guys.

It was just pee. The last thing from this is chemistry is different from other connections. So, for example, family members, friends, coworkers. Yeah. And then, again, an intense and immediate physical attraction might be conflated with chemistry, but relationships with chemistry have additional unique characteristics. Fun. So the other thing I read, so that was called the Interpersonal Chemistry Model.

Okay. of the chemistry model, which include like repeated moments of connection, individuals, personality traits and goals, perception of shared identity, effective positivity to other. All of this very romantic. Yeah, for sure. The other thing I read is a good housekeeping article. Now, here's where we're going to hit some real good research. Dr. Helen Fisher of the Kinsey Institute looked at MRI scans of 17 subjects as they looked at photos of their loved ones. And identified basic styles of thinking and behaving. And then developed this quiz. Did you take this quiz? I did take this quiz. Okay.

I bet we got the exact same thing. I was kind of down the middle on a lot of things, maybe unsurprisingly. I don't know if I still have my results pulled up. I do. Okay. So it's the anatomyoflove.com. This does not sound. This sounds like a GeoCities.

It sounds like it could be a few different things. So there are different types here. There is the explorer, the builder, the director, and the negotiator. Yeah. I took this twice because the first time I was so down the middle that I was like, I've got to take this again. Yeah. You got to stand for something, Rachel. So I ended up with the negotiator.

Interesting. What'd you get? I got the builder. Oh, okay. I was really close on that. Negotiator was 58%. Builder was 52%. I got 69% negotiator.

It's just I was extremely a builder. Wow. I was hugely a builder. Builders, famous builders include queen elizabeth who i've always thought uh and then also uh colin powell uh huge and then some famous my sub personality is director like steve okay so that was the thing so it told me negotiators are often attracted to their opposites, directors. Huh. Yeah. Yeah. That's weird. So my famous negotiators are Bill Clinton and Oprah Winfrey. They don't have a lot to pull from it, doesn't seem like. All we both, I think we can agree on is that neither of us are explorers. My explorer

rating was garbage. My explorer was actually my second highest. You're kidding me. Yeah. Well, then maybe this is good. Maybe this is good. It's good for us to have this conversation. Well, here was the tricky thing, right? Like, obviously, I'm not super adventurous. No.

But they asked me about, like, my desire to seek out new experiences and how I get bored if I do the same thing all the time. And that's true. Both of those things are true. That's not true for me. I'm, of course, fascinated by new experiences. But the amount of old elbow grease I'm willing to put into hunting them down is quite limited. I guess that's fair. Yeah, because when I think about when we go out and do new stuff, usually I look it up and figure out the directions and then suggest the day and time we go there.

So I am a negotiator. I am a philosopher, which probably won't surprise you. I am imaginative and intuitive, and I have superb language and people skills. Okay. What about you i'm a builder pillar of society most likely highly expressive of the serotonin system of the brain they are traditional and conventional as well as cautious calm and often social and maybe i took the quiz wrong they can be very modest when discussing their achievements. Okay, that's true. On a date, a builder is likely to engage in tangible conversations about food, travel, sports, the weather, TV programs, and movies.

They're often good at small talk, short conversations on concrete topics. Yeah, all right. Some of that works for me. So my builder and explorer were tied. I got 52% for both of them. My lowest one was actually director. How did you end up getting director? No, director was supposed to be my match.

So this is the whole married at first sight philosophy of like, oh, you need somebody different from you. Well, I'm sorry, baby. I need to go out there and find a Ford Explorer of my very own. Later. End of show. Bye. Just kidding. End of show. Bye. Just kidding. I would never. Famous explorers,

John F. Kennedy and Angelina Jolie. Magellan. Often put together in conversation. Absolutely. Our love defies the math and the science. I really did think we were going to get a similar. I did too. A similar one.

Because I do think that we are similar I would describe you as somebody that has superb language and people skills and is imaginative and intuitive yeah sure I feel like a lot of personality quizzes no matter what you get it's going to mention some positive characteristics

that you would love to be true about yourself but no I mean I don't need a fucking matrix to tell me how much I love my wife and how deeply into you I am. It helps. It helps to have the data just to show other people. Be like, oh, yeah? Boom. How do you like them apples? Yes, that's chemistry.

I don't know. How do you like them apples? Yes, that's chemistry. I don't know. There's a hundred more things I could say about it and a lot of traits on the internet that I could describe in detail. But I felt like I would just leave it there. Yeah, let's leave it there. It's mysterious.

Set it down. It's a mystery. What is that? I don't know. Can I steal you away? Yes. I have a tumble tam here and I would love to read it because it is for KT and it's from Lil Chili who says, Dear KT, you know what's wonderful? Living together. I'm so glad we can finally snuggle up and watch some Bake Off, Old Enough, or listen to those good, good McElroys

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Bicycle. I want to buy a bicycle. I don't have a bicycle. I'm close to buying one. You just bought a bicycle, and my thing is riding a bicycle and how fun it is. This says a lot, actually, about me and Griffin. I was like, I need a bike. It just has to work.

And preferably, it doesn't cost a lot of money. Yeah. And so I just found somebody on Facebook Marketplace. And I did buy a boy's child's bike. Did you know it was a child's bike when you bought it? No. Excellent. did you know it was a child's bike when you bought it excellent i bought it from somebody who i think was a student uh because i was in a college area when i picked it up uh and i saw the bike and i

said that looks like a nice bike and i reached out and i said how tall are you and she said that she was my height and i said great uh and that was that and i picked it up and then i did see the label on there that said i have it had pikachu on it but griffin griffin instead has spent a lot of time researching and right i want to i'm gonna get a car like an e an electric cargo bike that i can tool uh a child around in yes one of ours yes uh and i i test rode one the other day i rode your bike home from the bike shop and it is a child's bike yeah it wasn't easy it works for me because i am a small person but it is not meant for an adult i will say this when you're going downhill all bikes are basically the same. That's fair.

All of them are just like, just speed machines. And I do like that. But I think I'm ready to pull the trigger on one of these e-cargo bikes. They're very hip. All the parents at the school that I drop Henry off every day just pull up in their electric two wheeled whips. We live in like a very kind

of walkable neighborhood but it is pretty hilly yeah and so i think i think that motivated a lot of people saying like i'd like a little help yeah sure but all that said it's just one of those things that riding around a bike here in dc and just like seeing all the people on bikes here in dc has just reminded me just how much i enjoy it. We used to live in an unbikeable neighborhood, like super huge hills everywhere when we were in Austin. Yeah, but remember our first house? We both loved it. We both hit the hills with the bike, yeah. So I enjoy so many things about the bike.

There's so many things I'm excited about, about having this, this new e-bike. You can go places without parking, which is great. Cause I think I'm pretty sure DC has like 20 parking spaces for everybody to kind of share, uh, to call,

you have to call dibs on them. You know, I say that there's a dope app here. I think that's called park whiz. Yeah. Where you can reserve parking spots in advance. That may exist in other places. It may exist in other places, but we used it for a trip into the city with Rachel's parents.

And knowing that we could park pretty close to the museums and not have to sweat it was actually a pretty huge load off the old noggin. But you don't even have to do that when you bike. You just need something you can chain your shit to. You get to wear a helmet, which makes you look like a cool like you're in tron oh yeah you like that i always feel like like a big nerd in my helmet and i know that that is an unsafe way of thinking no you look like you look like a cool tron guy oh okay good like some sort of cyber skater and that absolutely does it for me uh you get in a night are you getting a nice little workout uh which like i don't care so much about but it does feel nice after you've just finished riding a bike where you're like ah i need to go hit hit the showers yeah uh the shower after a

bike ride i used to sit a bike ride today uh to pick up my prescription And most of it felt like it was uphill. Yeah. Which I didn't like. No. And I always have the thought of like, should I just get off the bike and walk? Like, should I? But then I feel like everybody's watching me. Absolutely, they are.

Emissions. No, thanks. Bike don't emit. I don't think. I don't think electric bikes emit what would they emit electrons uh-huh radio waves radio waves uh you get to pass by other bike riders and give them a little nod as if to say ah me too i have tried that but again i do have a child's bike so there is when i do see somebody whose feet usually me, the litmus test is if their feet are

attached to the pedals, I'm not on their level. Yeah, that's fair. I'm not on their level. If they have like an outfit specifically for biking. If they have butt pads in their elastic pants, they've gone somewhere I could never follow. And I don't want to follow them uh when you go down a hill on a bike without having a pedal it makes you feel like you're on like a little just a little urban roller coaster and that's fun for me uh or when you're you know

not in the middle of the city you get that that fresh wind whipping in your face that's really good it's just you and nature all just part of one big beautiful tableau i like to i didn't really realize that google maps has like like you can look up bike directions so sometimes you can like yeah you know go go away you wouldn't normally be able to go in a car and then it'll be like there's a there's a plywood board down that's formed a sick ramp. You can use it to launch up on top of the roof of this building. Cut three seconds off of your travel time. Collect the letters for skate as you go and get 20,000 points. The history of bicycles is pretty wild and fun in ways that you could probably expect.

The first chain-driven bike was introduced in 1885 and since then like it hasn't evolved too terribly much like you get we've gotten new like specialized forms for you know dirt dirt biking and city biking and yeah no i feel like the bike i have now uh and bikes i have had in the past like could have existed really at any time in the like 20th century it's just a frame and gears and a chain and handlebars and brakes yes like there's not a whole lot more to it than that but it is fun to look at bikes from before 1885 because we it's just like what were we thinking and i know that this is easy to do when you look back at the history of invention and say like get it the fuck

together guys but with bikes it just seems like somebody had to invent one of these things and one person got on it like this is not it keep trying because this can't be right uh some of the earliest like bicycle looking vehicles in the early 19th century we got the lauva machine or that sometimes it was called the dandy horse and the dandy horse was a bicycle typically made out of wood that get this didn't have pedals you just kind of straddled it and you just kind of fred flintstone that's like the kids and with the balance bikes yeah that's's the thing now. Like all the research says like don't give your kid training wheels. They won't really learn how to ride. Instead, get them a balance bike.

That's interesting. So they can learn how to, you know, get used to navigating the like two-wheel system. Yeah, that makes sense. But yeah, no pedals on that thing. But for a grown-up to do that, it feels. Yeah, I know yeah it would look pretty at distance too like imagine trying to go up a hill in one of those right like you miss one step and it's like oh whoop there i go bye uh after that we got the velocipede which sounds so cool

uh and technically that includes those bikes with like one huge wheel and one small one but for a while after we figured out hey pedals on this thing make it go good uh we got halfway there uh only the earliest like pedal bikes just positioned the pedal on the center of the front wheel so you were just turning the front wheel with your legs out in front of you and the back wheel was just like do whatever back there i guess you just follow me okay back wheel i don't know how you go about stopping one of those which is probably why shortly thereafter we did get the the chain model that we all know and love so much um yeah it's again like i know it's mean to judge because i'm sure when the dandy the dandy cycle came out people were like this is it this is the future this beats walking so much but like man i think five years after that they were like do you guys remember when we used to you remember this what is that it's a dandy cycle where's the pedals i don't know man it

different time we were all excited we had half a bicycle and we were like doesn't get better than this um i just like biking i like i like biking not in any kind of way that i think could i could call myself a biking enthusiast yeah you're not gonna like really double down on this and like well i am going to buy an expensive electric uh cargo bicycle so i kind of will have to use it but i think there are a lot of ways that i could use something like that there's a lot of times where there's like a middle distance between walkable and public trans transitable or drivable that so much stuff i feel like exists in here in dc that is very true like we went out and we got the double stroller and that has been helpful but like you don't really

want to push that thing for more than 10 minutes right so there's like this middle ground that i you know this city is just so bike friendly it feels like a waste to kind of not yeah take take take advantage of that. I'm excited about this. I can't wait. I can't wait to see Big Son sitting in that little carrier. Yeah, just holding on for dear life as I stunt. Trying desperately to talk to you in a very quiet voice. Yeah.

Just over and over. While I do wheelies and just hit nonstop ramps. What? And then you like stop and pull over and over. While I do wheelies. Just hit nonstop ramps. What? That is. And then you like stop and pull over and he's just like, who do you think would win in a fight? Bulbasaur or Charizard? I know that you're making a joke right now.

But I hope you know that our son would never need to ask me that question. Okay. Like, I understand your point, but to suggest that Henry would need to ask that question is an insult to him and myself. Because, like, what kind of dad would I be if my son was running around asking people that question? Yeah.

Not a very good one. He knows more about the types than I do. Well, yeah. dad would i be if my son was running around asking people that question yeah not a very good one he knows more about the types uh than i do well yeah it's like like he will sometimes talk exclusively about types with griffin and i just i sit there over there just like trying to get him to it's like hey remember when we read books that's not fair he loves books too i can't i'm trying to think of something that's my son is incredibly well-rounded i know you have lots of things i guess he likes drawing maybe i could lean back into that and that could be my thing and then we can talk about different you could get into pokemon different shades of blue and then i can really it's way easier to learn about

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You can say it again though. The more, scientifically, the more we mention our merch, the more people do buy it. Okay. I mean, it's September. You know, we got to get Halloween gifts. Sure. For people. Uh-huh.

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