Wonderful! - Wonderful! 278: Love, Peace, and Taco Grease

Episode Date: May 31, 2023

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Hi, this is Rachel McElroy. Hello, this is Griffin McElroy. And this is Wonderful. Welcome to Wonderful, a show where we talk about things that are good, we like, and into it, all of them. We are into them. The things we talk about on this show. A lot of people get on the comments and they're like, you don't actually like Guy Fieri trash can nachos, which I've not talked about on the show before. But that was just like a rough example of something that we would.

Now I have to pivot. Because when I talk about about my thing people are going to be like i wish you talked about guy fieri's trash can nachos instead you can put that on the on the uh what are the bench the i'll put it on the batter's box bench is bad if you say like i'm gonna bench guy fieri's trash can nachos that's bad if you say i'm gonna put him in the queue. On deck? He's on deck. On deck. He's warming. Guy Fieri's trash can nachos is warming up in the dugout,

in the bullpen. He's throwing baseballs very fast at a net, which I guess helps you play baseball better. Yeah. You've, I've actually,

you know I've eaten these before, right? No, I do. Okay. I know this. You gave me a look like you're a poser even now. No, I was trying to think of if you've eaten them multiple times. No, I had them the one time.

Okay. We went with Lynn to the Guy Fieri's restaurant, which is what it's called, in Times Square. Oh, God, a million years ago now, and we got them. And I'll never forget, it was a singular dining experience for so many reasons. But I was sitting across from this large painted sign on the wall that said, Love, Peace, and Taco Grease on it. Yeah, yeah. And that has been stuck in my mind like a thorn in a lion's paw since that fateful day.

But anyway, that's a lot of talk about that. Was there merch there? Do you remember? Oh, probably. It seems like that would be on a shirt. You could, that's a lot of talk about. Was there merch there? Do you remember? Probably. It seems like that would be on a shirt. You could probably buy a shirt with that on it. You could probably buy a hat with like the Guy Fieri wig

sort of poking out of it, which shame on me. Little did I know that I would be doing a Fieri themed sort of streaming event, which I haven't talked about on the show. Trial by Fieri is back. I'm playing Ocarina of Time in a really silly way on our youtube channel at the mackroy family griffin a lot of

times will say sentences like well i gotta go do my fieri thing i'm like you are the only person that's not true i imagine there's lots of content creators who have said that exact sentence who do fieri stuff probably not the way i do it everybody does their own sort of twisted spin on it do you have any small wonders um gosh so many like finales and new beginnings of shows um i have a feeling that you're gonna talk about one okay uh so if you want to swoop it do you know swoop it i got lots of good stuff going on right now oh yeah yeah um well i mean there's barry yeah man um but you were the one that thought about it like all day yesterday so i couldn't say i was amazed i i was looking for some support yesterday like a barry finale support group uh and you it for you had not it had not been lodged in your brain in the way that it it had well i just wanted to read about it and

read other fan interpretations and like i haven't gotten that deep into some shit like that since like i don't know lost or breaking bad or something like that and i i have so many that i haven't watched yet i haven't watched succession i haven't watched yet. I haven't watched Succession. I haven't watched Yellow Jackets. I will say we finished Survivor. Great fucking season of Survivor. And I really enjoyed it. Survivor, if you have not, okay,

since season 40, which is wild, they have really freshened it up. And I would say the last four seasons have been, like all of them, all time bangers. This season in particular was a really really really yeah there there were very few players that you felt like were just being kept around yes you know like there were very i mean there were a couple there were definitely people who i was like i don't know this person should win but it wasn't like the season where

it's like two clear front runners and everybody just trying to get them out every week you know it really felt like week to week it was anyone's game kick-ass finale too one of the more exciting fire making challenges that has maybe ever been on the show before uh really great really great yeah i mean i i was gonna i had one night a couple nights ago where we watched the berry finale and then I finished the new Zelda game. And that was a very emotionally sort of compromising. A lot of highs, a lot of lows, a lot of victories and defeats. Yeah, that was just a good night.

That new Zelda game, y'all, is something special. Very special video game. I'm very excited that it exists and we got to play it um you go first this week yes what do you got for me the thing i'm going to talk about this week yes is feelings this is not the song the just that there are them what song you know the feeling nothing more than yeah you sing that's the quietest i've ever heard anyone i don't like the lack of i don't like singing publicly that is true i sing to our young son in a dark room by myself very good to catch some of that through the door i love that very much um no just the feelings just the thing of feelings yes this is kind of new to me

rachel's entering a new era of connection with herself and her fellow human there are these things that i guess i've had all along it's very wizard of oz uh that i didn't really know were there or how to connect with them or talk about them i've mentioned group therapy on the show before unfortunately when i moved to dc i had to kind of sever that relationship in austin um it's something that i'm planning to pick up again in dc yeah uh but it really kind of springboarded me into the ability to have a feeling, recognize it, talk about it. Yeah. It's been very cool as your husband to see, not that there was some fatal flaw in your character before you did this thing, but it has been a genuinely fascinating and exciting transformation to watch on my end.

Yeah. I mean, I would say you and I are similar in that we don't go to feeling first. I would say we are problem solvers kind of at our core. Yes. And this is something we really had to explore when we had Henry. Yes. And this is something we really had to explore when we had Henry. Yes. Because I think we were realizing that we had this kind of problem-solving approach

that we were trying to kind of rush him to a solution. And if you are a new parent, or even if you're not, and you're interested in this stuff, let me summarize every children's parenting book that has been released in the last 10 years. Don't just problem, like stop just problem solving

it that's bad and you gotta you gotta chill on it and sit in a feeling for like a minute yeah and even though like even what seems cheap right like a lot a lot of what we read about and learned was just being like it sounds like you're saying you're angry. Like for most adults, that would be kind of, you know, like a frustrating thing to hear. Yeah. Like, yeah. But they're not adults. But yeah.

That's crazy. Kids like are just like, oh, you're listening to me. That's a good thing. Yeah. You know, and they're also like trying to develop the vocabulary. I also do like it when you're like, it sounds like you're angry to me. Yeah. develop the vocabulary. I also do like it when you're like, it sounds like you're angry to me. Not that I ever really expressed that particular feeling. But, you know, just as an example. So a big thing that happened for me when I started doing therapy in Austin was

I would start talking about something that was upsetting me. And I would start going through why it was upsetting and like the different factors I had identified and the concerns that I had. And my therapist would stop me and say, what is the feeling you're having right now? And it was like all the lights would turn off and all the doors would shut. And it was like, and I had no connection to it whatsoever. It was like, I felt like something had happened to my brain and all of my processes had shut down. Because like, the part of me that like, reasons through something felt very disconnected from like, the emotional part. I think this is very much our thing. And I do not think it is terribly uncommon in this modern age of like full – when you go into survival mode or problem solving mode or let's fix it mode, there is a like full-blown dissociation from your own body that you kind of that comes as a natural like side effect of that.

Yeah. And recognizing that I've never done group therapy, but I think it would be hugely beneficial for me. me. Like recognizing that is like a genuine, like a reawakening of sorts of like, wait a minute, my body feels stuff. And I should probably pay a little bit of attention to it. Yeah. So I read a lot of articles about kind of why it's so hard to express your emotions, like where that comes from. There was an article in The Atlantic in 2015 called How to Get Better at Expressing Emotions. Simple, right across the plate. Love it. And they recommend doing what they call a physiological check. So like ask yourself when you're feeling something happening to your body, like where is this coming from? Is this anxiety related to the communication I'm about

to make, a decision I'm about to make, a decision I'm about to make, an email I'm about to send? Where is the irritation coming from? Just kind of like noticing tension in your body and trying to kind of check in with yourself because it is that lack of vocabulary and awareness that like makes it kind of a weak muscle. Like for me, that's what was so surprising is I have always been somebody who felt like I can find the words and I can say them. Like that

is something I felt confident about. Like it is easy for me to communicate with people because I have the resources. And then when I got to the emotion, I was like, oh, I have no words. It was like, it was shocking. And so that's what the physiological check is all about is like trying to build that awareness and that skill yeah god that would be that that's such a god i wish i was good at that i'm trying well and so much of it too i think a lot about how like technology has changed things because when i was like in middle school and high school, the coolest thing you could be was like indifferent, you know, like unconcerned. Like if you liked something, you had to be kind of like chill about it. And like particularly like and this is probably an experience throughout the world.

But being somebody who grew up in the Midwest, the whole concept of trying to make yourself stand out was like a shameful thing. You know, like, liking something and putting it out there and being vulnerable was like a thing that you shouldn't do. You know, and so I feel like this ability to like express when you're upset or like happy or excited you had to be very like thoughtful like is this going to be okay how's everyone else going to receive this like if i say i like weezer am i prepared to name 10 songs by weezer because of sweater song my name is jonas say it ain't so. Say it ain't so. Creep. That's Radiohead. They probably covered it at some point. There you go.

I think part of the reason, so there's a New York Times article. It's funny, a lot of these came out in 2020. Hey, yeah, man. There's a New York Times article in 2020 called Why Talking About Our Problems Helps So Much. And it talks about when you are feeling an intense feeling, your amygdala is running the show. That's the part of your brain that handles your fight or flight response. And it is your job as a whole to figure out if something is a threat and devise a response to the threat. So when you get stressed, this part of your brain takes control and can override just everything else.

Whereas if this is research from UCLA, it says that if you start putting those feelings into word, you can diminish the response of the amygdala, which over time will make you less stressed about something. So if you got in a car accident, being in a car immediately afterward could overwhelm you, but as you talk through your experience and put your feelings into words, you can get back in the car without having the same emotional reaction. That makes sense. My issues, I feel like if I don't talk about how I am feeling,

I every time will spiral because I will lose any context for what like place that feeling has in my in my life and my relationships and my own sort of like self value uh but then when I am able to say that and get a little bit of feedback or mirroring or anything on that it instantly like flipping a switch this is something that it's been interesting to watch you really develop with like your brothers and your dad. Like you guys are in business together. You have disagreements

and it is like critical that you figure them out as fast as possible. Yeah. And I feel like you guys have gotten really good at that. It's changed the dynamic of our whole family.

Like this was not, our home was an incredibly warm and loving home growing up but like as a as adults with their own shit going on like that that skill was not one we were particularly well equipped with yeah i mean you think about kind of the generational like the greatest generation this like generation that grew up like in extreme poverty during wartime and the sense of like the struggle and how important it was to just put your head down and persevere and how that has been kind of passed down. And it's getting better, obviously, with each generation. But I think this idea of talking about how you're feeling about something and if you're scared or upset is like a relatively new one.

Yeah. Which is why I feel like I'm like, hey, you guys know about this? There are a lot of reasons, obviously, that it's hard to talk about feelings. There was a Medium article from 2020 that talks about things like avoiding conflict, having a fear of rejection, low self-esteem.

And then you believe feelings must be present for you to talk about them. This would happen to me constantly. I would reflect on something and feel like, oh, you know what? That really upset me. But then I would be like, oh, you know what? That was yesterday. The moment's past. I missed my chance.

The moment's past. I should have said something then. It's so unrealistic, too, because, like, I have never even after, you know, therapy or, you know, medication or anything like that. I've never, ever, ever had the experience of feeling upset by something and immediately being like, hey, that upset me when you did like it is always usually for me like a a thing i bring up later when you know yeah so this was the other thing this is the last thing i'll talk about in the atlantic article from 2015 they talk about how people that are extroverted tend to have higher emotional expressiveness. Well, yeah.

Which like kind of surprised me a little bit. Just thinking like how that can be such an advantage of like, I am ready to talk to anybody at any time. And that just makes me more ready to talk about my feelings because that's part of who I am. Right. You know, whereas me, I'm like more introverted. So a lot of times I won't have that instinct or that awareness right away. And then the moment will pass. And I'm like, well, I guess- Missed my window. I guess that was it. Yeah. So there's obviously there's a lot to read about this. And it is

definitely, it's like like it feels like a muscle it feels like something that i am i am working on and now trying to build in our children uh and i don't know it's been kind of cool to follow that evolution it's helpful also once you can do it with your kids because it literally is like how do you, how you feel right now? Oh, okay. Cool. It's some very helpful data. Yeah. I read a little bit about that, too.

And it's just like talking about emotions in different settings with your kids, letting them share first, reading stories to help your child build emotional vocabulary um and that helping them understand that emotions are always changing i think there's this like fear of like oh but if i let myself feel bad i'm gonna feel bad forever you know or if i'm angry i'm gonna be angry forever yeah i mean god as as we get older and we have this parenting journey i think about inside out a lot yeah one of the articles i read the like in therapist the therapist was like i'm so grateful because people talk about that now yes as an adult seeing that movie like sad can be good good sad can be good sad can be good are you sure sad can be good but it's sure? Sad can be good?

But it's the bad feeling. It's the opposite of the good, happy feeling. Are you sure about that, Pixar? Can I steal you away? Yes. You probably already have a favorite animal. Maybe it's a powerful apex predator like the tiger or a cute and cuddly panda. And those are great, but have you considered something a little more unconventional?

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Jordan, that's such a great question. This is going to be a very, it feels like sort of parenting heavy episode because my thing is adjacent to that. I want to talk about the world's best bedtime book. Here goes Joe. Joe Biden again fucking barnstorming our house in his chopper. to that i want to talk about the world's best bedtime book here goes joe joe biden again fucking barnstorming our house in his chopper what's it called big eagle oh i don't know i think it's called big condor one i don't think we're supposed to know i don't think you're supposed to know the name of joe biden's helicopter okay it's past we're talking about good night moon yeah you were reading this to uh little gus the day. I've read this book to Gus multiple times a night for a very long time,

for as long as I've been reading to him. It is like his number one jammer. Henry liked it a lot. I read it to Henry a lot too, but Gus wants it every night and sometimes multiple times. Yeah, Henry moved very quickly through books, Henry moved very quickly through books, and we just started stepping up our game so much that now we have so many books in this house. We have so many books. Whereas Gus has some favorites, and he will hit those over and over again, and it is delightful, especially if it's a good book. If it's therapeutic in the way that Good Night Moon is.

I think it's the best like putting a kid to bed book and i feel like i have i can say that with some authority yeah because i've probably read it several hundred bedtimes now the way like the illustration too like obviously the words are very soothing but like the pictures are so like i could i could look at any of those. I could print that out and put it on the wall and just be happy staring at it. I love that about you. It really does, particularly for Gus, have a soothing effect. I feel like I've seen that firsthand. Not that usually every night I will read to Gus for like 10 or 15 minutes before you

come up to do like his bedtime just to kind of like reset him a little bit. It's part of- Because with Henry, we used to really like, we had a whole process with Henry. Yeah. Where we would like bring him up a half hour before and we would read books and then we would like spend all this time winding down. With Gus, it's like 10 minutes. And then we would like spend all this time winding down with Gus. It's like 10 minutes. Well, and then you rock him to sleep for 45 minutes.

Like, don't make it sound like that's wild. The wind down time is shorter and the bedtime routine is longer, perhaps unsurprisingly. So Good Night Moon was written by Margaret Wise Brown with illustrations from Clement Hurd. And it was first published in 1947 where it kind of flopped. Only 6,000 copies were sold that fall. Yeah. I mean, judge a book by its cover, right? You're like, oh, good night moon. Okay, good night moon.

Whatever. It wasn't picked up in libraries, which is a huge circulation thing back then. like a huge circulation thing back then. And it wasn't until the baby boom that it kind of started to grow exponentially in step with the baby population of the country because there were so many babies. And I imagine folks were just desperate for anything, anything that can help these rowdy, rambunctious,

you know, post-World War II babies just go to sleep. Yeah, they've got like six of them in their house. They all have to go to sleep. They all gotta go to sleep. As of 2017, it had sold nearly 50 million copies. That was, you know, six years ago now. So obviously it's much higher than that. It was selling roughly 700,000 copies annually back in 2017.

So who knows how that number has increased with the covid baby boom that has a have we figured out if that's happened i mean we did it so like don't make a face at me we did it yeah yeah i didn't know that was what we were calling it though covid baby boom there's probably a better name for it well i didn't know that was a fact i guess it seemed like a lot of people had babies, but there was also nothing else going on. Nothing else to do but make boom boom. Oh, no.

That sounds like poop. Oh, no. Isn't it? You wouldn't call that thing that. I want to back out of the room. Can I do that? Rachel is slowly, wait, that's the balcony. No.

So if you've not read Goodnight Moon, that's wild. Like, that's wild that you've made it this far. It's a very sort of hypnotic rhyming poem about a young anthropomorphic bunny rabbit and his ritual of saying goodnight to everything that he can see. He's just looking around the room and just saying goodnight to stuff. He's just looking around the room and just saying goodnight to stuff. I cannot think of a more iconic or memorable opening line in all of bedtime literature than in the great green room. There was a telephone and a red balloon and a picture of the cow jumping over the moon. Like that is very good. I'm not a poems guy.

You know me. But that is like that hits so right for me every single time. I could probably recite the book from memory, which is not that impressive, I think, because it is quite short and I have read it several hundred times out loud. What's your favorite part? I mean, the fucking drop of, and a comb and a brush and a bowl full of mush and a quiet old lady who's whispering hush. Yes, me too. And then, of course, the book is sort of a, there's probably a good fancy, like, you know,

language word for it, where it builds its way up of him looking around the room and seeing all of these things that are in the great green room. And then it kind of starts over. And then he says goodnight to everything in the room. And so in the second repetition of it, it says, goodnight comb, goodnight brush, goodnight to everything in the room and so in the second repetition of it it says uh goodnight comb goodnight brush goodnight nobody goodnight mush and goodnight to the old lady whispering hush it fits a goodnight nobody into it yeah which isn't which is so silly and and and funny and it just to fit kind of the meter of the poem this bunny rabbit says goodnight to nobody

uh which i love so much. That's obviously the best. Do you have a, No, that's the part. The whispering hush, like that. Goodnight to the old lady. That's such a lovely phrase. It's all very, very good.

So yeah, I mean, Gus loves the book. We read it every night when he's like too rowdy to sit through like a Gerald and Piggy, you know, something from the Boynton collection. That's what I will say, like having Henry and getting so intense on books, we have such a great library for Gus now. Yes.

Like I really, I've bought maybe two books since he was born because we had so many just ready to go. I also want to stress that like it is not, I also want to stress that like it is not – I don't just like the book because of the positive calming effect that it has on our kids. Like I feel personally soothed by reading it partially because like I get to bust out my – I don't know if this is a thing you do or know about but like my bedtime reading voice oh yeah gentle parenting like half whisper like in the great green room like pseudo asmr like reading voice to help the boy calm down i genuinely love doing that i find it as therapeutic as i hope that our our son finds it well and i think it's also a nice contrast because i feel like you also have a gear where you're reading like a uh oh my gerald

and piggy voice gerald and piggy full blown or like a pigeon book where you're just like all characters all emotion when i'm reading happy pig day i'm like off the fucking walls. I'm Robin Williams over here. Good Night Moon, though, I dial it in. I found this great quote from the wiki article about Good Night Moon from a children's book academic named Ellen Handler Spitz. exclusively pretty much about sort of like child psychology by way of you know child literature and she wrote this and I think this is so gorgeous the psychological function of the surviving objects in goodnight moon is profound they teach young children that life can be trusted that life has stability reliability and durability oh that's good i think like i maybe that's like another reason why this book brings me just as much comfort as i i'm sure it does for our children to hear it like it is a book about the comfort of the things you know in your safest place yeah and how they were there when you go to sleep and they will be there when you wake up.

That's incredible. Yeah. And I feel like we still do that a lot with Henry of like, kind of that like gratitude thing of just like, you know, like what is in this space and that you're grateful for. I mean, Henry's bedtime song for maybe a couple of years now has been a song from Adventure Time called Everything Stays. Such a beautiful song. Which is incredible. I can do my own sort of segment just on that song because it's amazing. Every time I listen to it, the thing that really strikes me is that he picked that song. He did. He found it on a YouTube kids video that showed up.

It's such a perfect bedtime song. And it's incredible. It's about let's go in the garden. You'll find something waiting right there where you left it lying upside down. Yeah. When you finally find it, you'll see how it's faded. The underside is lighter when you turn it around. Yeah.

So like everything stays right where you left it. Everything stays, but it still changes ever so slightly, daily and nightly, in little ways. Everything stays. It's so, so perfect.ly, in little ways, everything's safe. It's so, so perfect. And I think that actually there is a lot in common with good night. This feeling of like, this feeling of safety, this feeling of security,

which is as an adult, non-existent, as a child, like fleeting and very easy to like disrupt and break. And so I love any sort of bedtime ritual that reinforces that. And it just so happens I have not thought about it until you mentioned that. Yeah. That that is for both of our kids kind of the go-to thing. Yeah.

And is I'm sure like the go-to thing for all parents who are trying to like get their kids to calm down and go to sleep. This feeling of like you are, this is the safest place in the world for you yeah and good night moon does that better than anything else i don't remember i'm sure this book was read to me as a child i'm sure of it right yeah i remember seeing it in our home i have a fucking terrible memory of my childhood in general but i really feel like it wasn't until i was a parent and used it myself that I like really fell in love with it. Yeah. I mean, I don't remember it either, but I think that's because like my memory of being read to starts with like chapter books, you know, like it starts with the ongoing story that you continued every night. Yeah. Um, but I, yeah, man, I, I, it's probably

my, my favorite book to read to our, our kids uh because i it is a rare thing where i feel like i am getting as much sort of comfort out of it as they are hearing it and that is an incredibly special sort of symbiotic thing that that happens sometimes when you are parenting i would love to know for those of you that are in the wonderful Facebook group if there are other really good bedtime books. Oh, for sure. I mean, I'm sure there are, but I would love to hear more of them. Yeah. Because bedtime with Gus in particular is more challenging.

He just has a lot more energy than Henry. And like any way we can get this child to like switch gears, welcome advice. Welcome, please. Hey, we got some submissions from our friends at home. Yeah. I remembered and have them ready to go. Our first one here is from Nathaniel, who says, my small wonder this week is Manhattan Hinge,

which is a brief period when the setting sun aligns exactly with Manhattan's buildings. City blocks, including traffic, will sometimes stop to admire. It only lasts a few days a year and it's gorgeous have you heard of this before no it's like you know a a specific window out of the year where when the sun sets it sets perfectly down you know the main i don't i'm I'm not familiar enough with Manhattan's sort of geography, but you know how there's those long streets where it's just, you can see, you know, way, way down the distance and just these huge buildings sort of surround you on the left and the right, uh, where the sun will shine directly down it.

And I've seen pictures of it before. I've never seen it in person cause I don't know when the fuck it happens. Um, but it, it is it it is it is uh very very cool um bo says my small wonder is easy watching tv nowadays a lot of youtube and podcasts qualify as such but just having something to play in the background of a craft or chore that you can follow along and enjoy while half your brain is occupied yeah a lot of the tv we watch i would say falls into this category yeah i mean particularly shows uh that do a lot of recap yeah man um or they like follow a particular pattern you know it was funny as my friend alex was in a hotel recently she's traveling for work and i was like what do you what

do you watch do you watch friends do you watch the office and she was like uh diners drive-ins and dives yes baby and i was like yes yes of course you do horse alex that's yeah that's the other one i will never forget we went to shit what was i did forget what what's the town in texas that everybody goes to and it has the magic mountain and there's like wineries there oh um so it's uh not fredericksburg is it fredericksburg we went there once we rented a house this is before we had kids yeah not a lot to do in fredericksburg we walked up the magic mountain which was a very quick hike yeah um And then we like went out to a really great dinner. Really, really, really nice restaurant. And we walked down the street and like bought some fudge or something like that.

Yeah. And went back to our room. And it was like 530. And so we just fucking chilled in bed and ate fudge and watched Diners Drive-Ins and Dives and Guys Grocery Games. And it was like a pretty chill time. Boy howdy. A very Guy fieri heavy episode this week this week is all about parenting and guy fieri um thank you so much for listening yeah thank you to bowen and augustus for these for our theme song money won't pay you can find a link to that in the episode description

um and griffin's griffin's gonna be uh in your in your real life face a number of times these next few weeks. Yes. Coming up here in a couple of weeks, middle of June. Please go to macro dot family to find the specific dates and schedule and stuff. But me and Travis are going to be at awesome con here in D.C. I'm excited to hear about this con. I don't know. It looks very I mean, it looks awesome.

It looks very cool. Anybody else is going to be there. It's huge. It's a it's a it's a pretty big deal. There's a lot of people are going to be there? It's huge. It's a pretty big con. Big deal. There's a lot of people that are going to be there. Right. So, yeah, that'll be great. And then we have some live shows coming up in Raleigh and Richmond.

Yeah. And then next month – well, wait. When do you hear this? No, it's still May. In July, we're going to be doing MBMBAM and Taz, I think, during San Diego Comic Con, which will be rad also. and Taz, I think, during San Diego Comic-Con, which will be rad also. Yeah, and if we can get our childcare situation figured out,

maybe we can do a wonderful. No, that would be great. At some point on that tour. That would be so fun. We will let you know. We'll let you know. That's it. Thank you all so much for listening.

Tomorrow, I guess, is June starts. We'll have new merch over at McElroyMerch.com for you to check out. So go watch that. Go to the McElroy Family YouTube channel and subscribe. We're live streaming there like a few times a week, and it's really fun. A lot of times that Griffin and his brothers will play video games, and it's soothing to watch. We do have fun to watch. No, not to play. Every way we play video games is wrong and bad.

We do a Mario, Super Mario World playthrough now where we split the controller up and I jump and Justin hits the tongue and cape button and Travis moves left or right. It's fucking rough stuff. It's so funny to watch y'all and your like shorthand with each other in your years of video game experience as a unit. Yeah. And after every stream of that, we do call each other and we do unpack the feelings we gave each other. The very bad feelings that came up during that playthrough. Anyway, that's it. See you next week.

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