Wonderful! - Wonderful! 280: Cuppy vs Cuppy

Episode Date: June 15, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, I'm Rachel McElroy. Hi, I'm Griffin McElroy. And this is wonderful. You changed the article there. You used to say, hi, this is Griffin McElroy. This is, yeah. And that shouldn't freak me out so much. I don't like how much that threw me. As I was saying it, it felt weird.
Starting point is 00:00:34 But I also kind of liked it because it made me feel like I was like a host of 2020. Oh, yeah. I'm Rachel McElroy. Yeah, that felt really official. This is wonderful. A show where we talk about things that we like that is good and are good and we is into it. And I'm so happy to be in the studio with you a bit late this week. It's been a real barnstormer over here, folks.
Starting point is 00:00:58 We've got business. Rachel has other business. Yeah, so I have a job. Right. And now what you just said is offensive to me. And I want to make space for that. Well, I wasn't finished yet. Oh, okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:01:13 I have a job that involves me having bosses and coworkers that I'm not related to. And don't know that you do this on the side. True, yeah. Most of them. Which is wild i don't talk about or introduce myself in a way that's like hey my name is rachel mccory of the mccoroys and i have a podcast as you would expect yeah that is not how when people find out you're always like that's right don't tell wink wink don't tell about my family.
Starting point is 00:01:47 So yeah, we're a little late this week. So anyway, so yeah, so I was busy with that. Griffin was busy with- No, no, I was ready. Don't put this on me, Ricky Bobby. I've been ready to party. Oh yeah? Midnight, I'll get up out of bed and crank out the sausage and make the donuts.
Starting point is 00:02:01 I can't be stopped. I thought you'd wanna talk about your various appointments, but I guess we're not that kind of show. We're not that kind of show. My health is my privacy. That's the saying. I treat my health like you treat being a part of this family. It's a secret to everyone.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Do you have any small wonders? Oh. I've been getting real into Facebook Market lately you really have been which is kind of embarrassing um for a bunch of reasons i mean even saying the word facebook is kind of embarrassing now sure sure um but you know like there are a lot of things uh that you purchase that seem like they cost too much yes and there are a lot of people in this kind of transient city that are you know moving to a different location for whatever reason and they are they are pricing things to move yeah so um yeah like i got like a little storage thing for downstairs for all the toys that our children don't play with but can't throw away right uh and
Starting point is 00:03:04 the woman was like moving stuff out of her apartment complex and she was so grateful that i took it and i just felt like this is a good thing that i'm doing i have so much stuff that i need to hawk but i'm so i don't know why i'm scared like i don't know why i'm scared to this is like when you move to austin from chicago and you like austin chicago it was a fucking like clearing like going out of business sale i was i sold so much shit before i moved here i think i think part of it you had a few like weird interactions i feel like when you have sold things maybe that's it yeah and so you're like anticipating i sold a drum kit to someone in chicago i don't know why i brought the drum kit
Starting point is 00:03:43 with me to chicago but i sold it and the asking price was like, I was selling it for like 150 bucks for like a full drum kit. That was like, I'd put a little bit of work into and somebody came and was like, okay, okay. How about 60? And I was like,
Starting point is 00:03:58 Jesus me. Like I understood that this was going to be a part of it. See, I never do that. And I've never had anyone do that to me. A lot of times it's like I'm giving it away and it's out on the porch and I don't even talk to you. Or it's like, hey, we stand there for a second, exchange like Venmo or whatever, and then we get back in our cars and that's it. get back in our cars and that's it see i i also just remembered when i sold my bed to a recent divorcee in austin and what was one of i would say top five most uncomfortable human interactions i
Starting point is 00:04:32 would love to have like like a video of that because i mean it doesn't seem crazy that she would sit on the bed just to make sure that it wasn't she didn't need to tap it after she said you know what i mean oh did she tap it no she didn't okay it's gonna be wait a minute this isn't the graduate um i should have thought of something to say here at this oh you know i'm gonna say uh e3 is gone this is typically the time of year that e3 would happen but like e3 is just fucking fully gone which I'm still kind of bummed out about even though I'm not really deep in the industry anymore but the past week there's been like a bunch of different individual little shows little showcases like Xbox did one and little farm to table farm to table Xbox games showcase uh there's this guy Jeff Keighley who has been sort of a presenter host type dude in the industry for forever who just started his own show called Summer Game Fest.
Starting point is 00:05:29 And all of those really patched together very nicely for me this week. It was a very fun week for gaming news that got me really excited. And so I'll say that. E3 is gone, but the spirit of games and gaming is still going strong, folks. Wow. I don't know. Oh, fucking Summer Games Done Quick is happening, right the spirit of games and gaming is still going strong, folks. Wow. I don't know. Oh, fucking Summer Games Done Quick is happening, right? I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:05:49 It's been happening all week. I've been sleeping on it. Oh, wow. I always assumed you got like a little alert on your phone. I know. No. You know, with all of my health appointments this week, it's hard to keep up with it. I want to specify there's nothing critically wrong with Griffin.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Don't worry. He just like was catching up on some like annual visits and such um so i think it's fun that you think i only have to go to the dentist once a year one of them's a dentist i didn't want to air your business i just wanted to make clear these are routine visits they're not like griffin you're you're gonna lose this appendage if we don't see you tomorrow. Yeah, no. I mean, my teeth are amazing. Like, they're in amazing shape. You go first this week, and I can't fucking wait.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Yeah. So this is, we kind of teased this in a previous episode. We started watching a show, and I thought, I want to talk about this in detail. I want to do a whole episode about it. And it's all we're going to talk about and maybe we should make a series about it and griffin was this was literally the first episode wasn't even done yet and rachel was like we have to dedicate we're gonna relaunch fucking rose buddies but just about this show um and griffin had me dial back a little bit and we kept watching well i wanted to vet
Starting point is 00:07:06 the show a little bit which i'm glad i that we did there are 18 episodes of it and i we're not finished yet we've watched 13 of the 18 15 15 we've been moving at a clip okay they're very short they're like 30 minutes right yes uh and um it's called fraser there's 18 there's 18 episodes of fraser because a lot of them got too problematic through the through the the looking glass of history and so they got rid of a bunch of episodes but there's 18 still good no it's not fraser do you and your family members have a rule about how often you have to say fraser on a mackler product yeah and in fact let me email my fucking parole my fraser parole officer uh so the show is called love village and it is on netflix love village on netflix just popped up in our hey hey griffin we think you might like
Starting point is 00:07:56 this sometimes that section is not like netflix you don't know me at all love village is like wow you really wicked definitely know me Netflix. Yeah. So I sometimes forget that our Netflix suggestions are so curated. Yes. So when I went online to start researching this show, I was like, there's nothing about Love Village anywhere. Folks, you are getting, this is hot, exclusive off the presses, just reporting on the Netflix show love village that you're not going
Starting point is 00:08:26 to find anywhere else yeah speaking of that so the thing that got me so excited about love village is that it is i mean it's a reality dating show one but two it has so many different features that you can't you literally can't find it anywhere else it is it is a japanese dating reality show yeah uh hey it's my topic oh i'm so sorry i got so excited see i offered you i said we could do a whole episode about this and you said i don't know that the audience is going to want a whole episode of love village no but look at how excited you are i know i love it so um so a lot of what you'll find about it is talks about it as like the spiritual successor
Starting point is 00:09:05 to Terrace House, because it is a Japanese kind of dating show where they live together. Um, and the, but unlike Terrace House, the goal of this one is to really find what they call your final love. And they call it that because all the contestants are age 35 and over. Yes, which is, and when we say 35 and over, like up to, I think there's like a 61-year-old person. There's like a couple of 60s folks, a lot of 40s, mid-40s, some mid-30s thrown in there too. The 50 to 59 demo has been underserved so far, but who knows? Yeah, this means that a lot of the contestants you know have been
Starting point is 00:09:45 married before or have children they're at like a point in their life where they're actually like some of the contestants are like thinking about like i maybe got 10 good years left i should probably get married which is especially great when like a fuck boy does work his way into the machine and that people have just no fucking time for that whatsoever which is very refreshing so the other thing i want to mention quickly that got me so excited about this show is that they have them live in like a very remote area of japan in like a traditional like old japanese style house that is in complete disrepair it is uh in shambles when they get there like they have to replace the floors.
Starting point is 00:10:25 There's like no furniture. There's no insulation. Yeah. Yeah. And so that was what was really exciting to me. And it actually ends up being kind of, it plays a lesser role as the show goes on. I had kind of thought that this was going to be a real like frontiersman kind of show,
Starting point is 00:10:44 you know, where they were going to be a real like frontiersman kind of show you know where they were going to have to learn to set traps this show has made me and rachel think of a reality television show that we watched fucking all of and maybe the only two human beings on earth i don't know actually jd is jd amato has probably watched it too called utopia where some people live in a sort of self-sustaining ecosystem yeah uh that was a complete huge commercial failure uh but this show has a lot of that like go farm some vegetables you all get uh what is it like 30,000 yen which is like 300 bucks a week to spend on groceries yeah so so things are provided to them but and they'll also have experts come in and like teach
Starting point is 00:11:25 them how to do stuff so like if they're going to put in a new floor uh you know they'll have actually somebody come in and be like this is how you do a new floor yeah although a lot of the contestants do have some kind of like construction background which i think is probably pretty intentional yeah uh the other thing i will say that makes it like tara's house is that there are hosts yes uh not a full panel but two hosts that i guess have been working together for a while in the industry and are pretty well known uh becky and it's sushi yes uh and becky is that it is really good it's we were not sold on them at first. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:07 I think because. They're not comedians. They're like hosts. Right. And they're also always there. Unlike Terrace House where you watch Terrace House and then there's like a break where the commentators speak. There's a little picture in picture where you are watching them watch the show. It's not always there, but you can always hear their voices talking over the show which was very distracting but then they're great so they're great yeah uh and it's
Starting point is 00:12:30 similar to terrace house and since they're very enthusiastic about the show they are very invested in the like romance uh and they get very connected to like some of the storylines so it's it is fun in that terrace house way of like you're watching it with buds. There's something about it that I – obviously the conversation around Terrace House has changed dramatically, right? really fell in love with that show is compared to a bachelor bachelorette or really any American reality dating show. It felt like really raw and unproduced and very real and very boring at times, which made those real moments feel like really good. But then, you know, after everything that happened, like it, you know, you realize like, oh, there was a, you know, the hand of production was guiding a lot of that along the way, which doesn't, you know, completely remove the merits of that show.
Starting point is 00:13:30 What I like about Love Village is it's very produced. Like it is extremely, it's like, all right, now everybody come outside. This is the dating bench. You sit on this to talk about dating. Gosh, there's so much to talk about with this show. There is a lot to talk about. I haven't even talked about the bell. Yeah, there's a much to talk about with this show. There is a lot to talk about. I haven't even talked about the bell.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Yeah, there's a bell. There's a very important bell. So the way they keep the show moving at a clip and new contestants coming in. Contestant is a wild word to use. Well, yeah. Participant. Subjects. How many are on the show at an eight?
Starting point is 00:14:04 Okay. participant subjects how many there's how many are on the show at an eight okay typically there's like four women four men uh and the goal of the show is to find somebody that you feel serious about and confess and the way confessing works is there you go up a hill and there is a bell and the bell is very loud and you ring it and then everybody comes outside and then you like you know schoolyard pick style take the person that you are confessing to and you walk somewhere else the dating bench which moves it moves around it's a quantum dating bench sometimes it's by a waterfall sometimes it's in a field and then if you are the confessor you kind of give your little speech and then the person gets back to
Starting point is 00:14:43 you the next day they give you a whole day to sit on it, which is so cruel. And when you get back to them, it is you and the confessor in front of the house, like Wild West style, like getting ready to have a shootout and they make everybody line up. So like all the other like, what am I supposed to say? Subjects, participants. Participants. Lovers. Stand there and watch you have this exchange where you again state your interest in the person and then that person publicly responds.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Right. And you can either leave together or if the person you confess to isn't into it, they will stay and you will leave. And it is done which is really a fascinating thing because when you see people participating in a reality television show it is really hard to separate the objective of finding love from the objective of being on a television show and getting some some sort of following or cred or whatever from that. When you confess, when you ring that bell, you're going to go home. Like you are going home no matter what when you ring the bell,
Starting point is 00:15:53 which is a really interesting thing. You don't see that on anything else. It's like on Bachelor in Paradise. Yeah, people will sometimes choose to leave if they don't see a partner for them. But also what would never happen is like, I think I really like this girl and I'm going to tell her and then I have to leave. That's like nobody would fucking do that because they need as much screen time to sell tummy tea as they can possibly get their hands on. So far, there is nobody who is outwardly very specifically said like i am a model or you know like nobody has identified themselves as an influencer and i have not like looked into it to see i have my
Starting point is 00:16:32 suspicions about anchovy oh yeah there's a dude named anchovy who's been in the house the whole time whose whole vibe is and they've played it up to i would say a slightly a slightly mean-spirited extent he is a chef at an italian, and so he is called Anchovy. We don't really know if this is something that occurs outside of the house or if this is just his house name. His house name, yeah, I don't know. But his whole thing is he just assumes every woman in the house is in love with him. And he has this whole theater-of-the-mind thing happening that the hosts just delight in. He is television gold uh this man uh yeah it it the the vibe of
Starting point is 00:17:10 the show is pleasant in a way that terrace house was pleasant even though it is more more produced more traditional dating reality show style thing like it walks the line and i think it's just them living together. They are really... And they're always working on projects. They're always working on projects. So that is the thing that does come up since it is a very like rustic style house
Starting point is 00:17:33 is they will have these ideas and they will get the materials and then typically they will pair up to complete a task. Right. So like build a fire pit, you know, or build like a duck coop a duck coop yeah uh it what's really telling about the show and and it's kind of the sweetest thing about it is
Starting point is 00:17:54 anytime someone rings the bell it means they're going home right yeah so the and they'll usually sneak off to do it so that nobody knows that they're going out to ring the bell so everybody else will be sitting around eating you know lunch or whatever and then they'll hear from way outside like clang clang clang clang and then there's a really there's a moment where everybody looks around to see who's missing yeah and then without fail a handful of people just break down into tears because they know that their friend is leaving that is so that connection that you get from making a show together and living in a house together and working on projects like this together is is palpable it is incredibly uh sweet and uh yeah well it's the combination right like it's the combination of your friend is leaving and also recognizing like this person has found love.
Starting point is 00:18:46 Yeah. And I have not. Yeah. I have to imagine that's a piece of it. There are two women who start out in the house together who form like this really beautiful friendship and are both kind of unlucky in love. And then somebody new shows up to the house and one of them like strikes up a romance with them. shows up to the house and one of them like strikes up a romance with them. And they're those two women. Their parting is the most sort of moving thing that has come out of the show because it's like, you know, they were they were soldiers in the battlefield of love together.
Starting point is 00:19:15 It was. All right. So we've already talked a long time about this. Two more things I will just say is little throwaways. The theme song of the show. All music for the show. All music for the show is brought to you by the Backstreet Boys. And not like today's Backstreet Boys,
Starting point is 00:19:33 but like Backstreet Boys of the mid-90s. And quick, go through the Rolodex of Backstreet Boys songs that you know in your head and assume which one is going to be the theme song for this love-based reality show called love village did you guess backstreet's back all right probably not probably went with one of their ballads right shape your heart shows up a lot both of you like both the original version and the orchestral version that the score that the show has produced that will play over certain
Starting point is 00:20:01 scenes uh and the other thing i will say is that a lot of times when contestants are telling a story about themselves it will be animated yes and this is the most produced thing that happens it always catches me off guard but they do these very like uh compelling animations that are very accurate and that they look exactly like the contestant uh and it will be like let me tell you the story of my first marriage and it's going to be animated on screen so that the viewer at home can watch it in its entirety and it's animated in like a rotoscope black and white almost uh i think you likened it to take on me the aha music video for take on me uh and and you also made the comment that they are so few and far between that every time one starts, you are always surprised. I'm like, oh, it's animated now.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Oh my God, what? I will also say I was unsure about this show because there's a dude on it at the very beginning named Hollywood who sucks. He's like very overbearing and like has real boundary issues. He does seem like, to use a phrase, is on the show for the wrong reasons. I mean, everybody kind of has an affection for him, but he is very clear that he is looking for somebody that he can bring to his movie premieres and his industry events because he is a famous actor who is only going to get more famous. Yeah, he's pretty gross.
Starting point is 00:21:25 But also just a little pro tip from us to you. He leaves after three episodes. Yeah. He is. He's not in there very long. Wisely the first to confess. Yeah. So it was.
Starting point is 00:21:37 That was kind of what we were like. Is this guy going to hang around? Is this really going to change the tone of the show? Because he seems pretty obnoxious. If you can get over the Hollywood hump, you're made in the shade, baby. Yeah, I really like this show a lot. I feel like it wears its heart on its sleeve a lot. And it's a new show, too.
Starting point is 00:21:59 So when I was doing my research, I was kind of hoping it was like Terrace House and that we were getting a season here in the states and there were more hidden somewhere no this is a new this is not like when uh terrace house the first season came to netflix and then there was a like 105 episode season before it that we had never seen that we then spent the next like two years trying to find and watch all of this is this is hot we have not even talked about the individual contestants you know uh i'm gonna i'm gonna leave that as a treat we have given some teasers as to people that are on the show yeah there are a lot of really great people a lot of really great people that we could spend the rest of the episode talking about but we should talk about the host fashion is in the same way that like the the the panel of you know six uh hosts of terrace house always had like something
Starting point is 00:22:46 something fresh going on some great becky and atsushi their vibe is immaculate yeah every episode i look for and i'm not like a clothes guy but every episode i look forward to seeing what these two wear on their bodies because it's fucking outrageous well it really stands in contrast because most of the people in this kind of rustic style house are dressed practically you know they're wearing overalls they're wearing work shirts you know they're they're living kind of a hard life yeah tilling the field and then you cut back to the studio becky wearing fucking grace jones shoulder pads that like go up over her ear like yeah uh it's really good it's it's it's really good i'm really excited we're almost done with it which is heartbreaking uh because we've only been watching it for like six days or so.
Starting point is 00:23:28 But yeah, I love it and I hope it takes off and they make more of it. That's, I mean, we probably could have done a whole episode about that. Yes, this is what I'm saying. But I would like to do my segment right after the break if I may. Okay. Can I steal you away? Yes. My fellow graduates, for 500 episodes, my podcast, The JV Club with Janet Varney, has gathered story after story of all the scandalous things we've done throughout our childhoods.
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Starting point is 00:25:37 I started prepping a thing about fast food mascots and I realized like the last half of my notes were all Grimace. So this is like a, he's a featured player. We've talked about something similar to this before right i believe we we have an episode that is titled like abstinent grimace or something like that um so it's possible i don't think we've specifically talked about grimace in detail but i feel like we have talked about mascots in a variety of shapes and forms. But so here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:26:07 I also saw Grimace in his new featured role with McDonald's. And I had the instinct that people probably all over the world have, which is like, does Justin McElroy know about this? And then I realized the fact that I'm having that thought means that he most definitely does. Yeah. I looked, I didn't see anything about Matt. It does feel like we have discussed something around the periphery of this before, but we've been doing this show for almost 300 episodes. So that's unavoidable. You know what? The listeners want to take a deep dive into Grimace. I think so too. Obviously, I think, you know, fast food marketing can get pretty gross,
Starting point is 00:26:51 And obviously, I think, you know, fast food marketing can get pretty gross, but I can also hold that truth in my mind while also holding a deep and abiding love of fast food mascots. Because the very idea that a restaurant chain or to further sort of like abstract that out, like a food business that sells people food and wants you to come in and spend your money on their food is like, I know what will help with that. A little guy. I know it's going to help people come in and buy our pizzas. What if we have a little guy who is a cartoon and he also likes the pizzas? That's going to definitely move some pies. Or we have a little guy who wants this so bad and can't he'll take it he'll do crime that's another good element to it of just like this person loves this pizza so much that they'll do crime for it i don't have to do crime for the pizza but it's still very good and the fact that
Starting point is 00:27:36 this little guy wants to do crime for the pizza makes you at home think like man this must be really good right this has been a thing for our whole lives obviously you got ronald you got taco bell chihuahua you got which i don't think is still a thing no um you got wendy you got burger king um we were of course referring to the noid the noid is of course uh not so much the noid i feel like they flirted with a revival annoyed revival and then realized like he's too fucked up did the little caesar's guy have a name he died caesar was it just caesar i'm pretty sure it was caesar or little caesar and anytime you ate pizza from little caesars which for me was several times a week in college you were eating his people don't
Starting point is 00:28:21 i will tell you something i still yearn for five dollar hot and readies like i think about them a lot even though we have obviously reached a point in our adult lives where we can have better pizza there is something so zesty about a five dollar hot and ready that i know see for me i pair them with like sad times in my life. Oh, yeah, for sure. So like the idea of getting it now feels like a backslide. Obviously, fast food mascots largely targeted towards kids, most explicitly in the BK Kids Club, which was an ensemble of cool children. Yeah, I have no real connection to that. I remember that being a thing. I don't I couldn't tell you anything about them.
Starting point is 00:29:01 They're a collection of cool kids from different backgrounds who were brought together by their love of flame-grilled hamburgers. But so many of the mascots that have existed in this space have been over-designed by a team of ruthlessly efficient marketing managers, and that does very little for me what i love is like the desperation plays of fast food mascots that businesses leave behind them like a trail of dead that they just refuse to duncan donuts has a mascot whose name is cuppy and he's a cup of duncan donuts i feel like i saw an animation of this at some point but it was like on some material it wasn't like i didn't see this cup move around and say anything he shows up at
Starting point is 00:29:52 sports games sometimes and it's just like it's out there um but like dunkin donuts is a pretty big business and they absolutely refuse to commit to cuppy because i imagine a lot of people don't know about cuppy bojangles has a mascot that is also cuppy it's called cuppy and it's a cup of bojangles stuff which like when i think about bojangles dunkin donuts yes cup of coffee that's their thing bojangles i don't think like i'm gonna go to bojangles and get beverages i think it it's... So it is a beverage. It's not like a cup of like popcorn chicken? No, I don't believe so. I think here's the thing, right? Like any mascot that appears as a food item,
Starting point is 00:30:36 you are kind of putting yourself in an awkward situation of just like a destroy me. But that's the thing, right? Culver's has Scoopy, which is a sentient smiling ice cream cone, right? Bojangles and Dunkin' Donuts have different cuppies. But you're not killing cuppy when you enjoy the beverage out of cuppy.
Starting point is 00:30:55 Here's the thing. If I were dressed in that mascot costume, which I know is something that you can think of a little more viscerally than me. People are coming up to you and they're saying, can I put my mouth on your straw all day long? All day, all day long. That's not pleasant for anyone. No one likes that. Well, unless cuppy's nasty. One of the cuppies is nasty.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Either the Dunkin' Donuts or the Bojangles cuppy. One of them's nasty. And you have to know, you have to kind of feel it out. Because if you walk up on Dunkin' Donuts cuppy and they're giving off a vibe like, I don't want your mouth anywhere near my straw but bo jingles cuppy might be down to clown what is your instinct what does your heart tell you i think bo jingles cuppy would would be down to clown that's my thought too okay good dunkin donuts seems a little more proper i well not proper prudish is the word i would use. Okay. We got to talk about Grimace. Because McDonald's has been on a big Grimace kick lately.
Starting point is 00:31:47 In honor of his 52nd birthday. And it resulted yesterday in the release of- He could have been a contestant on Love Village. He could have been a contestant on Love Village. God almighty. How fucking funny would that be? If somebody's like, oh, someone's at the gate. Nobody acknowledges it. No one answers. Oh, it's grimace it's grimace but like nobody like acts like it's unusual they celebrated his 52nd birthday yesterday with the release of a new game boy
Starting point is 00:32:15 color game titled grimace's birthday and it's real and you can download and play it right now uh game boy color of course a platform that was was sort of that we all moved beyond in like 1999. I assumed it was like an app or something. You can play it online. But I think you can also download a ROM and like slap it onto your like emulator device and play Grimace's Birthday on the go. I have not played it yet. I probably should have before this bit. But that's great. Grimace is God tier, right. I have not played it yet. I probably should have before this bit, but that's great.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Grimace is God tier, right? He's just, he's an absolute unit. He's a purple mass of flesh that loves eating McDonald's food and hanging out with, according to the wiki, his best friend, Ronald McDonald. Whoa, so he's the number one. He's the number one.
Starting point is 00:32:59 He is Ronald McDonald's emergency contact. What I love about Grimace and find so fascinating about Grimace is this liminal space he occupies between like forgotten mascot relic of the past fucking cuppy and cherished part of the McDonald's canon and McDonald's family. Because McDonald's has been really cagey about Grimace, about like what he even is, which is alarming. Yeah. So there's a 2012 tweet from the McDonald's corporate Twitter account in response to somebody and McDonald's tweeted, Grimace is the embodiment
Starting point is 00:33:31 of a milkshake, though others still insist he's a taste bud. You should fucking know that. You should probably know. Rachel feels very confident that we have talked about this before, Grimace's like identity.
Starting point is 00:33:43 But again, not in detail not in detail obviously when he first came around he was a scaly four-armed monster who wanted to steal kids milkshakes which scared children very badly oh see i didn't know that so they they sanded off some of the rough edges and two of the arms of grimace and made him the friendly simple can i tell you my theory on the origin story of grimace yeah? Yeah. I mean, he's shaped like a nugget, you know? And so my thought was they tried to make a big nugget. A big purple nugget? Well, no, I think it was chicken colored.
Starting point is 00:34:11 I think it was like a flesh colored nugget. And everyone was like. So this was a flesh colored giant man with four arms. Yeah, that's bad too. And my assumption was that like, ooh, I don't like him flesh colored. Let's try some other colors. And then they landed on purple. Here's what I don't think we've talked about before.
Starting point is 00:34:26 He has not been a featured player. He wasn't for a very long time. In 2012, he appeared at a Dodgers game. He danced to Black Betty, Ram-A-Lam. That song. As a promotional stunt for McDonald's. And then he fucking disappeared for eight years. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:34:42 No sign of grimace was seen. McDonald's kept his name out of their fucking mouths until the 2020 macy's thanksgiving day parade really he's up on the float hand in hand with his best his best friend ronald mcdonald they had a falling out they had a falling out i don't know what happened uh that that made this sort of fall apart for them um anyway i've gone on long enough about a subject that we may have discussed before, but- The thing I saw that entertained me
Starting point is 00:35:11 about this new Grimace situation with McDonald's is that they were like, in honor of Grimace, we have purple milkshakes. There is no explanation as to why they're purple, what kind of natural flavor they are associating with purple, just like, hey, we have milkshakes and now they're purple like Grimace. It could be like a yummy sort of like purple sweet potato vibe. Like that might be good.
Starting point is 00:35:31 Anyway, I love Grimace because McDonald's won't really go all in on Grimace. By far the most huggable of the McDonald's group. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure Bertie's not bad. The Fry Guys, I'm sure birdies not bad. The fry guys, I'm sure there's something there. You definitely don't want hamburger to hug you because you'll come back.
Starting point is 00:35:50 Your wallet's gone. They call him a hamburger to kind of like disarm you and think like, oh, he's just doing, he just does burger crime. No, no, he'll steal any,
Starting point is 00:35:59 he'll steal whatever. Anyway, that's grimace. And maybe we should have just talked about Love Village the whole time. But, you know, you take the good, you take the bad.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Thanks to Bowen and Augustus for the use for a theme song, Money Won't Pay. You can find a link to that in the episode description. Thank you to Maximum Fun for having us on the network. Go to MaximumFun.org. Check out all the shows there. There's a lot of good stuff there. This week,
Starting point is 00:36:22 Friday, Saturday, Sunday, me and Travis are going to be at Awesome Con here in D.C., which you can still get passes to. So come out and see us. We're doing panels. We're doing signings. We're doing photos.
Starting point is 00:36:31 We're doing all kinds of stuff. And then the week after that, we're going to be doing shows. We're doing Mabimbam and Taz in Raleigh, North Carolina. And then we're doing Mabimbam in Richmond. I think we're going to try and do Wonderful in Raleigh for that Mabimbam show too. Yeah, we don't have any kind of great childcare solution, but our hope is to do Wonderful to open
Starting point is 00:36:52 for Mabimbam in Raleigh. Yes. So go to, I believe, macroytours.com or just macroy.family. We'll get you there too, and you can get tickets to all that stuff. Thank you so much for listening. We're going to go now so we can just get this bad boy up. So check you later. too and you can get tickets to all that stuff thank you so much for listening we're gonna go
Starting point is 00:37:05 now so we can just get this bad boy up so um check you on check it later check you on the flip if we've talked about grimace before please don't tell us we should end every episode if we talked about grim if we talked about any of the subjects before please don't tell us let us live no specifically grimace don't talk to me about Grimace. Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey!

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