Wonderful! - Wonderful! 290: Moisten the Stick

Episode Date: August 23, 2023

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Hi, this is Rachel McElroy. Hi, this is Griffin McElroy. And this is wonderful. This is wonderful. A show where we talk about things we like that is good good that we are into and um what's up sports fans uh hope everyone's excited for sports season to start back up again well for some all my friends talking about big games going on in the worlds of football for for some it's been going if you are let's say a baseball enthusiast no really i thought that all the sport,

I thought sports were like school, where in the summer, everyone kind of takes it off. That would be nice. That would be nice. I mean, for them, for sure. For the baseball players, yeah, for sure. Yeah, probably a lot less injuries, you know? Yeah, and also, they don't even get to go to the beach.

And I'm sure there's some baseball, that's not true. I bet you baseball players hate the beach. Because it's like, where are we supposed to play baseball? baseball yeah it's such a narrow strip that we're supposed to the baseball field is so crazy it's the only sort of weird diamond shaped uh sporting arena and that is a shape that doesn't occur in nature very often um and so but football you can play that on a beach volleyball of course uh designed for it it's like when you go on vacation and you're like where can i podcast what even is this i want a

podcast somewhere and i can't figure out where to do it yeah very few good podcast places to do it on the beach yeah that's why no one's ever done a beach podcast before no one would even try they get grains of sand grains of sand in their microphone doesn't work anymore all you hear is rattling around every time i talk no one wants to hear that no one wants to hear a bunch of birds angry sea like loud sea birds and who would choose to listen to waves ever want to listen to waves and boats and parasailors and regular sailors not this guy i'll stick to my land podcast thank you very much do you think parasailors ever say like oh yeah i'm a sailor and everyone's like it's like a parasailor a parasailor sorry in the

biz we just say say i would like to meet the person who when they learn the fact that someone is a sailor they go like they've seen a mummy or something a sailor sailor i don't think i've ever met a sailor it would be exciting i think have i i mean i don't know i feel like outside of a musical theater setting okay fine there are a lot of legs out from there are a lot of sailors and musicals for some reason do you have a small wonder i feel like the thing you normally would do as a small wonder is going to be my big wonder. I know, right? I don't know if I've talked about smoothies.

Have I talked about – I've probably mentioned smoothies. Sure, of course. I'll say – to get more specific, I'll say the smoothie as a vehicle to get nutrition into your child. Yes. Our big son, real slight boy. Slight of frame. We have been told to try and get him to gain weight. Bulk up.

Anyone that has had a six-year-old is likely to recognize that they are often quite picky, including big son. Yeah. But then it just hit me. I just make him a smoothie. I just put a bunch of you know big time muscle protein powder yeah sure that's what they call them big time protein muscle powder for kids i'm gonna go to gnc later i'm gonna be like where do you have the big time protein muscle for kids yeah don't get

it for adults we will he will get huge and crazy looking if you use the adult big time powder yeah exactly you don't want him to get too big you know that's not something they want i feel like you specifically don't want him to get too big i don't well of course as his father i don't want to feel threatened by my own uh-huh not at age six not at six good lord um my sub all a wonder is gonna be oh it has to be we're gonna here we go baby tilapia tilapia ooh tilapia yeah okay the the tasty unassuming white fish that is easy to cook tastes great and i like it it's for whatever reason the fish i have cooked the most and prepared the most

and feel like I can't mess it up really. Yeah, it's not as like beefy as a salmon. I don't want it to be beefy like a salmon. So it cooks through real quickly. Cooks through real crispy and get a nice, but first I cooked it a few days ago and did like a flour dredge on it, get a little crust on it.

It was nice. It was good as hell. Yeah. Real good. Yeah. I go first this week okay i'm gonna talk about a tv show a uh a non-struck project uh as per the sag after rules uh this is a a reality television show from our friends in south korea which this has been an absolutely baller year for reality television I feel like I think that I feel like we can say that confidently because we are experts very yeah I guess as close as I mean thousand hours we probably put a thousand hours into reality I

thought it was ten thousand but even that I think we're probably inching towards. This year, I feel like all the classics have been hitting so right. I would say Survivor this year, easily a top three season ever. Top Chef this year. Top Chef was good. Fucking excellent. We got a bunch of newcomers,

a lot of which are new to North America and have been ported over from other regions. Like The Traitors was very, very good. We talked about Love Village. Did we talk about Love After Divorce? I believe we did. We mentioned that we were watching it, yeah. Yeah, two sort of romance reality shows from Japan that are very, very good.

South Korea has been crushing the game, though. Physical 100. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So good. Can't stop thinking about it. Siren survived the island. Like, we were so obsessed with that show and just absolutely tore through it. And right now, our new obsession these past few days, hot off the presses, is called New

World, which apparently arrived in many regions on Netflix back in 2021. As far as I can tell, is new to us. That makes me excited that maybe there'll be another season quicker. Oh, I hope so. It's been out for a while. I had a hard time sort of preparing this segment because I feel like pitching this show and making it sound like a good television show is actually kind of hard because the sort of base components of it don't sound all that special or spectacular a lot of what makes this show good is the tone and the execution and the cast of it and how deeply the cast buys into the premise yeah yeah there's a lot of unusual aspects

of this show and they work best because the contestants are just on board immediately immediately and they are there's never any like survivor style like i don't want to be here anymore no no no everybody is is is into it so six k Korean celebrities that they are mostly comedians from like the variety show panel show circuit. Right. So yeah, we get told they're celebrities, but they're not anybody we recognize. Right. So like think of I mean, the nearest sort of point of comparison for like what we are

familiar with is like imagine if the like the Terrace House panel, like the six people who just like make jokes and are very, very funny and charming and talk about Terrace House. Like imagine sort of that sort of vibe, that sort of camaraderie between these six people. I feel like a lot of them know each other already and have worked together on variety shows and panel shows in South Korea in the past.

So they get to live on a utopian island in homes fashioned to their exact specifications yeah so we see interviews with each of them on the first episode where they indicate the kind of house they would want yeah so like one person's like i want to live on like a seaside grecian shack and some person's like i want to live in a very minimalistic uh place with lots of cleaning supplies And then these things are provided to them. After they arrive, they receive phones and the phones have like a local messaging app they can use to stay in touch with each other, a banking app. And that is very important because the goal

of the game of New World is to earn a fictional virtual currency called Nyang. And they are told that after one week on the island, they can exchange that fake currency for real money back in the real world. That's basically the overarching structure of the game. And it's like six days, right? Or something like that, yeah. So the way they earn that currency is by taking part in games

that are introduced and changed every day. Every day there is a new activity. There is a new game to play. And the games are the thing that makes this show special, are what make this show work. Because they are so outrageously intricately designed and hysterically funny like designed for just hilarious madcap antics between all of the different cast you know it's got kind of a task master vibe in that way yes that's a really really great comparison that i had not i was thinking about the fact that like they're comedians they they're bought in, the tasks are kind of absurd.

Right. And all of that is similar. Yes. And in the same way that Taskmaster rewards lateral thinking, a lot of these challenges do as well. I don't want to talk about the first one because I think the first I think if you make it through watching the first challenge of this show, you get hooked because there is a twist to that first challenge that i feel like just talking about it would spoil it uh that like immediately tells you what kind of show it is that you're going to be watching i want to talk about because you i feel like we have to discuss one of these games in order to sort of like drive home why are they so special um so the one of the episodes we just watched

the game for the day is this monopoly style property investment game where all of the different locations on the Island, there's like a cafe and like a restaurant and a garden and like all of these different locations, you can purchase them with this fake currency from the bank. Um, and then every half hour, the value of those locations changes. And so the idea is to buy low, sell high, you know, throughout the day so that you can cut a big profit. Those changes in price are telegraphed somewhat by rumors. And some of these rumors are like you can just be walking around an island and come across two like NPCs, like just two of the like crew members on the island talking about like

did you hear they're building an underground tunnel under sunset sunset crossing and so like you could hear that and think like okay well i need to get my hands on that property because it's going to go up but that's just one way in which the you can sort of figure out how the prices are going to change uh other ways include you can go to the New World store and buy cockroaches and then leave them at a location to drive the price down. Or you can go to a place that is always open in New World called the Shadow Store

where everything is, there are like 30 cards laid out on the table. Yeah, they're like little tarot cards tarot cards and one would will say like real estate glasses like they are not in any way sort of like one is just called shield and the prices are exorbitantly high and you don't know what it is you're buying exactly uh and so you know you buy real estate glasses and they're a pair of glasses you put on and they tell you exactly how the price is going to change at the next sort of installment right but you don't know one player buys something called the shield it's the first thing that someone buys on the show and is trying to like

keep it secret that he has bought this item but he has handed this massive iron shield that he then has to carry around and just like tell everybody like oh yeah it's for the sun the shade is it's just so hot out uh yeah uh so so that is the thing you can do one person buys the new mart uh store and uh in order to raise the value of it like changes all the prices of every item that is for sale for this nyong currency or like mops up the floor or takes over running the uh the the register and goes outside and starts shouting like come on in we got these new prices we got new promotions running uh which is like there's there's infinity little things like that in each game that is not outlined by any kind of rule right which i think

could be very frustrating for a lot of people who are watching it thinking like they're just making it it's very calvin ball right and but they lean into that in a way that makes it seem so fucking fun to be yeah yeah well because all the contestants they're kind of like in for the love of the game a little bit so like if somebody does something to sabotage them they may kind of play at being upset or they may you know have a moment of being upset but there's a general like appreciation for how crazy this game is right ultimately everybody on it is trying to make a funny tv show and it is it is hysterically funny like there is no uh you know i i think uh hysterically funny like there is no uh you know i i think uh the just in this year alone of like watching all of these like reality television shows mostly from south korea like i i the language barrier has never once i feel like gotten in the way of understanding kind of like the point

of the show or having the comedy absolutely land uh because we have had so many times just cackling out loud laughing at this television well they don't really reference their outside lives very much that's what i think is kind of interesting is that you know we get told they're celebrities but it's not like they're indicating what their real life is like so we don't we don't get distracted by that you know yeah that is that is true i also, I can't stop thinking about this Taskmaster comparison because I feel like that works for me. In this exact challenge, there's one player who doesn't buy any property the whole time, but instead follows the rumors.

So there's one rumor of like, ooh, there's treasures that have been found buried in the secret garden. And people are like, okay, we're going to use that to inform our next investment. This dude just goes and gets a shovel and starts digging around and finds treasures that he then sells for a profit like there is so much thought that has gone into the game so this is just one of the games this is one day the next day different game the day before that different game and i will say so you are earning money but you are also spending money because they are charging you for meals. Right. Or they are charging you if you want drinks or, you know, there are opportunities to spend this money.

So even if you are winning, you know, a bunch of things, you can still kind of choose to lessen your pot just to make yourself more comfortable while you're there. There is a guy on the show who in the first day loses all of his money, just goes completely bankrupt. But in one of the challenges, he finds a key to a golf cart. And this is a big island that people are just walking around to like do these challenges and get from point A to point B. And there are some people who are like, this sucks. I don't want to walk around anymore. So then this man who is broke, but has a golf cart becomes a part-time chauffeur. And they will text him on the messaging app like, hey, Heechul, I'm heading down to the cafe. Will you come pick me up?

And he's like, yeah, two million yang, please. They'll transfer it over to him and he'll go and get them. The characters on the show are like perfect casting. I feel like by the end of the first episode, I knew who like everyone was and exactly what kind of vibe they brought to it. There's one woman on the show whose name I cannot remember but has like murdered me with jokes like so many times. Is she the one that like throws the biggest fits? Yeah, she is. She's very dramatic about stuff like that.

But it's, I feel like it is, again, like there's so many moving parts to this show and they are constantly adding in more moving parts and the players are exploiting and also adding in more moving parts. It is a very, they are sort of making up, they are building the plane as they are flying it it feels like at all times on the show while there is also this vibe of like this is a utopian society

where like you the meals that they are buying are prepared by this like michelin star chef um it is unlike anything i've ever seen before uh and there's a a layer of meta reality on top of all of it that is like one of the challenges is a meteorite crashes yeah i was gonna say there's there's a lot of camera tricks that are added in after uh which kind of add to the like the supernatural yeah it's like magical quality like the they have the cast kind of react in a certain way so that later they can kind of add in more dramatic representations of what's happening. It's great. It's very, very good. It is so watchable, too.

Like, we, our queue of shows is just kind of piling up because all we want to watch is this right now all i can think about because it from a like gaming perspective i think it is hugely fascinating just because i never know what is going to happen in each episode like how the rules are going to change and how people are going to find like these clever workarounds for them and from a just pure entertainment value perspective like it again it is fucking dropped to the floor funny uh and and i cannot recommend it enough um there's also a new one on netflix called zombie verse that that woman that i talked about is also on that is another sort of like metafictional reality show taking place in the middle of a zombie apocalypse uh that i am curious about but i i can't give the seal of approval of that we haven't dipped into it yet.

But New World, boom. That was the sound of the seal. I hope they find a way to continue to do it. Griffin and I were talking right away about like, okay, so it's an island and they have houses for everybody's specific interests. Like, how can you do multiple seasons of this show? Yeah, the production values, again, just like Physical 100 and Siren Survived the Island, through the roof. Like, this was not a cheap show to make by any stretch of the imagination. But it is masterfully made.

And for all those three shows I just mentioned, like, I want new seasons of them every month. But every year will suffice. Please, please, please more of them. Thank you so much. Thank you. Can. Thank you. Can I steal you away? Yeah. I'm Emily Heller.

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Yes. Came from a bit of nostalgia. We went to a pool not long ago that had a concession stand. Yes. And I became really fixated on what items this concession stand would sell. Right. fixated on what items this concession stand would sell right because there are certain things that feel very much like pool summertime snacks to me yes so one of the things i wanted to talk about it kind of it branches off a little bit but i will say it started with fun dip fun dip sure

um because this is a this is a pool snack for me i I agree wholeheartedly. When I looked at this pool's concession stand, I was agog at how they're the same ones from the pool that I grew up going to in Huntington, West Virginia, you know, 30 years ago. Yeah, I mean, it's like mostly candy and chips. Like there's a few like actual kind of entree. But the candy is like cow tails

i don't see those anywhere else they had cow tails cow tails there huh yeah i think i was more fixated on what our children would actually oh right right right um fuck up a cow tail right now so so i looked into uh fun dip yes and it actually is a st louis originated snack wow um is this lickemade is that the company that makes it or is that the name of the brand that's what it was called initially oh wow okay okay so lickemade it was originally envisioned to be a drink mix oh that feels wild i feel guilty for eating it then the the idea was they were making these like fruity powders that you would put into water right for kids to drink kind of like kool-aid right but then someone at the lab accidentally got it on their tongue they're like this is good too well i think when they were testing it with

kids and or when they first started selling it, they realized very quickly that kids were just eating the sugar straight. So they kind of moved from there. So it was Lick-A-Made and became Fun Dip. It started in St. Louis. There was a company called the the sunmark corporation which was founded in st louis in 1952 and that company was eventually bought out by nestle and was called the willy wonka candy company okay so that's like that's i mean there's a bunch of stuff that fits in that category i feel like by the way as the more we do this show and get into the history of different sort of corporate fields, that it's always the same.

Where it's like, this cereal was made by one man who lived in Biloxi. And then he sold it to this guy who sold it to this guy. And now it's Monsanto. Like, it's all sort of gets funneled into one or two big things. The thing I didn't realize, and this may not be true anymore but i didn't realize the connection uh between a number of candies that are basically all the same thing which is powdered sugar it's like the same kind of ingredients. So Fun Dip became Pixie Stix. That's the same.

You're telling me that's the exact same thing. Yes. Okay, I believe that. Yes, what I saw. And then Pixie Stix. So the flavors of Pixie Stix are- Do they still make those? Because we may need to explain what Pixie Stix are.

They do still make them. Okay, cool. I've heard that it's harder to find the giant ones go to a fucking great wolf lodge my man i know i saw it in an article they're like you can't giant pixie sticks have been discontinued and i was like no they have not they go to the fucking great wolf lodge you can get one bigger than you are it's like a little like paper package that's straw shaped and it's just filled with sugar yeah and you can tear off the end and dump it directly in your right in your gob and then you get the energy you need to

go roller skate um so we're talking grape orange cherry and then this was interesting maui punch from from uh oh okay um i don't fund it i don't know that honestly the idea that the flavors were i'm imagining a sort of amorphous like unprofileable sort of flavor when i think of pixie stick like it's all the same it's extremely citric acidy but i could not tell you what fruit it is based on so the fact that there is one that is- Maui Punch, for those curious, is blue. Okay, not what I would expect. That's what they call blue. Okay, all right.

Man, I want a pixie stick right now, and I don't know why. I feel like it would hurt my teeth actively as a man of my age and stature. You know what's funny? I was curious about the nutrition information for pixie sticks. Can't wait.

11 grams of protein. I do not know how or where it comes from. So I looked it up. 60 calories, serving size, seven straws. No. Can you imagine? Each, they're like nine calories each per per straw can you imagine eating seven pixie sticks just i mean yes yeah really i mean yes when i was when i was a boy and i needed roller

skate energy to go faster on my roller skates and when the roller skate race um but that's the only context in which i would eat seven nowadays i think eating one pixie stick is like yeah to me that's to me that is tantamount to eating just a packet of ketchup it's like i need something okay that's what i like about fun dip is fun dip you at least have like the texture of the stick in there yeah that you are dipping and the stick is gross and no one likes it but as a vehicle as a scooper for that sweet powder um it does its job well pixie sticks apparently used to come with a spoon i think that's like the transition between fun dip and pixie stick to me that starts to get into the layer of like drug paraphernalia if i see someone with a tiny little spoon that they use to, oh, that's good.

That's a 100% uncut Maui punch right there. Which also sounds like the name of a drug. Which also sounds like a type of drug. Yeah, so I found a 2019 article that was created at the KSDK NBC affiliate in St. Louis that talks about the evolution of, you know, from Fun Dip to Pixie Stick and then onward. Okay. Now, I don't know if the recipes are exactly the same across these candies, but the suggestion is that after Pixie Sticks, they compressed that powder into a tablet and made sweet tarts. I believe it.

Doesn't that seem right? That seems, that feels right in my mouth. Next, added a sugar shell on the outside, sprees. Now that I can't rock with. Chewy sprees I'll rock with, not regular old sprees. I feel like just thinking about eating those hurts my teeth a lot. Those boys are fucking hard i just i i was kind of fascinated because i won i never really associated any of these candies with others i mean obviously they're all just sugar

right but i didn't think of them as like the same flavor profile pixie sticks like part of what appeals to me about them is their sugar but they also have this like citric acid right tart quality to them and so once i like realized that i was like okay sweet tarts yeah that doesn't make sense and then spree was a surprise yeah but we can't do anything with sprees is the end of the line right they can't do anything more to sprees i don't know are there gummy sprees there's chewy sprees the chewy sprees are great no i do like do like a chewy. Sour sprees, I think, are a thing. I would believe that, yeah. I love candy so much. Yeah, I was excited to bring this segment because I know that you're a real sugar enthusiast.

Yeah. Part of what made me think of this, too, is that Little Son has gotten really into lollipops lately. Yeah. pops lately yeah and what he does and this is not crazy and i'm kind of allowing it um because we have so many of these dum-dums yeah um he will enjoy a dum-dum for about 10 seconds and then he will demand a different flavor yeah he'll just leave it lying wherever yeah our living room is speckled with uh tiny little sticky dots all all around the room where he will just lay a dum-dum down every time i hand him one i think about how with big son we used to be like oh you can't you can't have a dum-dum at 8 a.m are you kidding and how now with second son i'm just like all right yeah well we're very

tired now and also knowing that he will never finish one yeah i feel like oh this isn't it's not like he's eating like a whole bowl of sugar he's just now as a result i will not let him dip into daddy's secret stash of chupa chups because that's that's dum-dums are so small dum-dums are so small you waste a dum-d so small. You waste a dumb dumb. It's like not great, but like whatever. If you took one lick of a chupa chup and then left the other, the remaining 11 grams of chupa chup

lying around to be discarded. No way. Can I tell you like you told me where they were located and I saw them the other day when I was putting some things away. Yeah, I can't even reach that shelf. Like they're very much yours.

I can't get up there. Is that true? I didn't know that. Okay. Well. I opened the door and I saw them on the shelf and I was like, I would need a stepladder. They're very high up. They're very safe.

I want you to be able to enjoy the Chupa Chups with me because they're so good. I've been eating them nonstop since I did that second audit. I've been living so good this past couple of weeks. So yeah. So that's Pixie Six slash Fun Dip slash Sweet Tarts slash Sprees. That's Sprees. Rank those. Ooh. Yeah.

Here's why I called it a pool snack. I've never purchased these. I don't choose them in a bowl of Halloween candy. No. But I definitely have a fondness for it. I remember buying Pixie Stix at the little like penny candy store. Number one, best of the best is... I mean, probably Spree's.

Sweet Tarts. Really? I don't really like... Wait, Sweet Tarts. I'm getting those confused with Smarties. No, no, no,rees. Sweet tarts. Really? I don't really like... Wait, sweet tarts. I'm getting those confused with Smarties. No, no, no, no. Not Smarties. Sweet tarts.

Sweet tarts are like sort of bottle cap shaped. Yes. Okay. Yes, yes, yes. I think I would still say sprees. Wow. I'm thinking of chewy sprees. Chewy sprees kick ass, sure.

But that's... Yeah. Okay. If we're lumping in Chewy Sprees, sure. Yeah, I mean, my least favorite in the bunch is probably Sweet Tarts, actually. Wow. I don't think I like them very much.

Okay. Pixie Stix and Fun Dip. it's almost hard to really draw a distinction it's like do you it's like asking if you want to drink like straight up or on the rocks it's whether or not you like that little candy stick and i do actually like that candy stick and the fun dip yeah so i might have to balance it out it's a mellow flavor it's gross but it's mellow great well i just like the idea that you like moisten the Fun Dip. I don't want to say moisten the stick. You just did.

So I'm going to say you moisten. You already said it. I mean, you already said it. And you use that dampness to get the powder. That's just clever. Yeah, for sure. I love that. Hey, do you want to know what our friends at home are talking about?

Okay. Sarah says, my small wonder is toddler report cards. My two-year-old gets learning stories every month from his daycare that celebrate wonderful things such as finding a worm or being brave enough to go down the big slide. The most recent one outlines a learning plan based on his interest in, quote, feeding the dinosaur leaves and sand. It feels good to know he's spending his time with people who are encouraging him to explore the world

on his own terms. And when an email pops into my inbox with a subject line like Master of the Bridge, I know I'm in for some warm fuzzies. That's so great.

That's really, really, really, really super great. We were so excited just about photos. Yes. I can't imagine getting like little discreet stories. Yeah.

That'd be great. Yeah, that would hit so right. Allison says, my wonderful thing is free summer concerts. A couple weeks ago, Indigo D'Souza, who I discovered through this podcast, played a free show in Brooklyn. And it was so nice to sit outside and listen to some great music with my friends. Oh, I bet that's great. That is nice. I always forget that that's like a perk of summertime.

Yeah. It's like outdoor concert free. Yeah, we didn't really do that this summer here in dc we didn't really look into that but not that we did it a ton in austin but like i don't know i remember our my first summer in austin we all went to a lost los lonely boys concert out on the i mean it's different when you have children right because they hate los lonely boys i don't know why how far is heaven like is a bob i don't know why. How far is heaven? Like, is a bob. I don't know why they disagree with that.

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