Wonderful! - Wonderful! 316: Things Are Heating Up in the Blanket Discourse

Episode Date: March 6, 2024

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Hi, this is Rachel McElroy. Hi, this is Griffin McElroy. And this is Wonderful. Welcome to Wonderful, a podcast where we talk about things we like that is good that we're into. We've been first in the game and last in the game of talking about stuff that we're into in a podcast

format. No one else is out here doing the kind of like wild shit that we do. Because most people don't like things, turns out. No. Most people or they like one or two things. Yeah. But look at the scoreboard folks we like so much more stuff than anyone else a ridiculous amount of things way more than anyone else has any right to um and we really really like this stuff um a lot of people again i hate to keep

bringing up the haters but they say there's no way it's true we like all this stuff and um and that's just the that's the wonderful difference wow oh tm maybe i don't think so i don't think you can tm that no okay i'm not like a legal guy um every unlike everybody else who lives in the this incredible district of ours very That's very true. I'm not really much for legal stuff and laws, but I don't think we can see him that. Do you have a, hey, small wonder? I'm going to say, and I haven't started doing this yet. I am mid-job shift.

I have accepted a new position. Yes. And with this position, I'm going to take the train to work occasionally. That's right. And I feel like I'm really excited about it because I think I'm finally going to feel like a real business person. Yeah. I feel like I will be on the train with other business people. And, you know, I'll talk about the train sometimes. I'll have train stories. I feel like this has opened up a whole new world for me uh and i haven't started yet but i feel pretty good rachel is the new ceo of jimmy johns um maybe we shouldn't say that like it's real fast pace it's a fast-paced world it's like

get me those numbers so fast i'll freak yes um she was corporate headhunted from jersey mike's uh she was the ceo there for a while rachel runs shit in the sandwich game not a lot of people know that i'm not just a sandwich artist i am a sandwich uh master i don't know what would be above that you started that sentence so confidently and i was like certainly there's a i wanted to say a sandwich maestro which maybe yeah i mean you can conduct a sandwich a symphony of sandwiches symphony of ingredients a symphony of ingredients that's very good thank you definitely that's been some ad copy for some thing that we've had as an advertiser on the show before um i'm going to say something at the end of this sentence that is going to be the small wonder that i'm going to do so get your ass ready

for that because here it comes right down the pipe it is looking around the room looking around feet no um you know what we got this thing there's a company called fat brain toys that makes yeah sort of stem related kids toys mostly uh yeah they're just supposed to be i think like more well-made and educational than a lot of the stuff you would find at like you know a big box kind of store they also sell a lot of stuff that you could maybe potentially find at like a children's museum and their most recent product this is not sponsored at all uh is air tubes and it's the thing that they have at a lot of kids science museums where it's like a suction tube system like one might send a check uh up uh do you think our listeners even get that reference wow shit i've never thought about that before um you know i have not been to a bank in a really

long time i have i went when we moved here because um i forgot my pen that sounds right um anyway it's like a little air pump and you can connect different tubes uh to like build different structures with it and you put balls in it and it shoots it through the tubes and the kids are just wild about this shit they're loving it uh and i am too because you can also use it as a sort of like makeshift t-shirt canon yeah the griffin actually introduced that um pretty early on to our children yeah uh and it felt like maybe a bad idea but so far it's turned out okay it's been great it's basically turned into a lot of games that you play with your kids, especially when you're trying to wear them out, do start to resemble Fetch to some degree. Yeah, right.

Which is a bit demeaning. Works real well for the little son. Works really, really good for him. So that was my small wonder. You go first this week. I would love to hear what you've prepared for us. For the class. I'm curious how you'll feel about this so griffin gave me a heads up on what his small wonder was going to be true or his big wonder

rather a huge wonder um and my big wonder was inspired by his okay now we don't usually do that and what's interesting is that you're going to go first and so in a lot of ways you're swooping you're swooping in here. I like to think I'm giving listeners a hint. Okay, cool. See if you can follow the clues of Rachel's ARG that she's got laid out here. My topic this week is covers. Okay, cool.

Yes. Okay. Yeah, cool. So it's like it's a hint, but I'm not giving anything away on yours. Now, you are talking about the musical type of covers. You're not talking about sort of the concept of things going over other things to protect them from the elements. No, I'm not talking about blankets. We could.

We could talk about blankets. We could, but I don't know that it would be at all interesting to anyone. Probably people who'd be interested in our blanket. Our blankets. I don't know that I want to get pulled into blanket discourse, though. There's a lot of people with a lot of really strong feelings vis-a-vis fleece versus quilts. Do you go big box store, you know? Do you go Bed Bath & Beyond?

I can't make these decisions for you now we're basically doing a segment on covers yeah but the kind of cover i want to talk about is when an artist takes an existing song and does their own version of it yes um and i never really knew how this worked huh like i didn't know the process for it like i knew that if you went to a live show and somebody played somebody else's song that was pretty much easy breezy but i didn't know like how you put it out in the world and made money off of it and that was okay that's a good point i don't know that either i looked it up now i don't know how reputable this source is as i got it from digitalmusicnews.com which sounds good to me man it's like a real thing um and the article was

called uh how do you legally cover a song um so first you don't need permission real quiet you just do it real quiet you just do it super duper duper quiet or you hum it you hum it yeah or you change one word yeah like skibbity fortnight yeah like skibbity fortnight or uh uh or like nine days a week uh it can be a one that you can kind of step your way around hey dude don't make it sad. But then it does say sad. Okay, so you don't need permission directly from the artist. It's nice, though, I bet. It probably is a nice thing to do, especially if you're like super well-known and it's going to be a big deal if you release it.

But you do need what's called a mechanical license. Okay, you got to go to technical college for four years to get your hands on one of these bad boys. So this is what it says about a mechanical license. It is a process that ensures the songwriter and publisher get paid and credited. And it also covers you legally. Okay.

So there are different places you can go and do that. This is what was interesting about the article is it gives you actual websites you can go to. So apparently there's a site called Easy Song where you can get a mechanical license for under $15, usually in one to two business days. Okay. Now, if you want to make a music video, you need a sync license uh which unlike a mechanical license you do need prior permission to obtain a sync license that makes sense um but there again there are sites uh where you can get a sync license uh there are also sites where you can choose a music distributor um like sound drop or distro kid There's probably also a lot of websites.

Or TuneCore. Those sound really cool. There's probably also a lot of websites where you can think you're acquiring a license to do these things. That's true. And then you don't. That's true. Again, I don't know a lot about digitalmusicnews.com.

Yes. But all of this seems reasonable. Sure. It makes sense that in this world where everything you want is online, that you could do this process remotely by yourself. And then they also recommend registering your cover song so that you can earn royalties. So it's not just the songwriter but also you getting a piece of whatever blows up from yours. I've spent a lot of this segment trying to remember.

And you may talk about this later on, the AV Club series that they did where they brought people in and they would like pick a song off of a list to cover no i don't know about this oh shit man i'm not gonna be able to pull the name of it unfortunately but they would bring in artists and they would have like uh the same list of songs for the whole season and so by the end of it i think it's called undercover uh that is i was just googling it as you were talking. Baby Club Undercover. Yeah. Delightful. I really loved that series a lot.

So I wanted to share with you some of the most covered songs of all time. The most covered songs or like the most famous cover songs? Well, I have two lists. I have the most covered songs and I have the best cover songs. Okay, cool. Depending on what. Best cover songs is going to get wild because there's a lot of songs that are cover songs that not a lot of people know are cover songs.

So on this list I'm looking at, and this article is from June 2023. Of course, this probably changes all the time, but that wasn't too long ago. Number one, Yesterday by the beatles now it's interesting because i can't like off the top of my head i can't think of a lot of covers that have been done but apparently uh joan baez frank sinatra elvis presley and vogue boys to men have all done versions of yesterday that's i think mostly wild because those are all older now at this point. I don't think a lot of people are currently covering the Beatles very much. Yeah, I mean, you wouldn't think so, but...

Just because I imagine the hoops that one has to get through in order to do that. Apparently, Yesterday has been covered more than 2,200 times. Wow. Yeah. Apparently, Yesterday has been covered more than 2,200 times. Wow. Yeah. That's not even like a very good Beatles song.

I do like it. I mean, they're all good, right? It's all the Beatles, but like. It's not like your fave. It's not even my top 25 faves, I don't think. Unsurprisingly, there are other Beatles songs on the list. Number five, Eleanor Rigby. Yeah. Which I think is a better song, yeah.

Number two, I Can't Get No Satisfaction by the Rolling Stones. Yes. Yes, for sure. number five eleanor rigby yeah which i think is a better better song yeah uh number two i can't get no satisfaction by the rolling stones yes for sure um we're talking jimmy hendrix we're talking devo we're talking vanilla ice uh apparently britney spears did it at the mtv video music awards um which i thought was uh again real fun song to cover um but it was also i mean was it otis redding who did the uh the famous version of that i think so wasn't it yes otis redding did a cover of that song that absolutely whips ass oh okay um okay. Other ones on the list, I'm not gonna like go in order, but ones that probably won't surprise you. Ain't No Sunshine by Bill Withers.

Oh my God. Another great song. Hallelujah by Leonard Cohen. Yeah, I mean, Jesus Christ. Just watch the OC, you'll see more than one different kind of cover of that song on it. I Walk the Line, Johnny Cash, Cry Me a River, Julie London.

Hurt by Johnny Cash, I believe. Oh, well, it's not by Johnny Cash, but he did a cover of it. Hurt did a cover of, who is that, Nine Inch Nails? Yes. Okay. Yes. Gosh, we're real music heads. Listen to us.

Yes. Okay. Yes. Gosh, we're real music heads. Listen to us. Okay, so there are two different sources that listed their best cover songs of all time. Okay. I have Timeout.com and I have AV Club.

Okay. Number one on AV Club, Jimi Hendrix, All Along the Watchtower, which is Bob Dylan's original song. Again, very, very cool version. Arguably much cooler than the original. The other one that I didn't know was a cover is Sinead O'Connor, Nothing Compares to You. Oh. That's not her song. Who did that originally? Here's what the AV Club says.

It says Prince didn't treat his Nothing Compares to You Especially Seriously, certainly not when compared to Sinead O'Connor, who delivered the song as if it were a matter of grave importance. He relegated the song to the family, a group of Prince protégés from the mid-'80s side project that gained no reputation outside of Cypher. That is so interesting. Yeah. God, that song is so good. Her version is so incredible it's like haunting

whenever i hear it um i mean there's a bunch of other ones uh but it's just it's a proud mary proud mary uh yes yes of course another one on the list is uh respect aretha franklin is a cover that's otis redding right otis Redding is all over this shit, man. I think he did. I think he was the original. Uh, I think he, I think he wrote.

You're right. You're right. Otis Redding originally released it in 1965. Yeah. But two years later, Aretha Franklin. Dolly Parton had like a huge one. Yeah. Um,

the Whitney Houston. I will always love you. I will always love you as Dolly Parton. Dolly Parton wrote it originally. And then Whitney Houston. Yes. Okay. Yes. Jesus. Um, I Will Always Love You. I Will Always Love You is Dolly Parton. Dolly Parton wrote it originally and then Whitney Houston. Yes. Okay. Yes.

Hallelujah, I mentioned earlier, Jeff Buckley's version. Incredible. You mentioned Hurt, Johnny Cash, which was another. I mean, it's fun to look at these because half the time you don't realize it's a cover. Yeah. The artist has made it so much their own uh but it's one of those things i think when you're a musician starting out you feel like covers are like a cheap easy way to like you know make yourself known yeah sure maybe not like the most artistic thing you could do as a as a musician but

ultimately it's it's real life-changing some of these versions. Yeah, absolutely. And there's something about like, I don't know, there's something powerful about like contributing to the like greater landscape of the medium of music in this way. Like I really, really appreciate whenever, and we're about to again talk about this in my segment,

but like when a musical artist approaches approaches a song with a level of like reverence that is like cool to see yeah you feel like they are tapped into some other like musical wavelength that you get to kind of like visit and be a part of for a little bit and that is a very neat uh sensation when it is sort of executed artfully. There was a version. You remember the artist Nickel Creek? Yeah, sure. Of course. They did a version of Britney Spears' Toxic, which I loved.

I mean, Nickel Creek is infamous for that. They did their cover of Spit on a Stranger by Pavement. Oh, I bet. Have you not heard it? I don't know that I have. Oh, shit. I think you have. I have to have played that for you.

Probably at some point. Because you're the one who turned me onto pavement. And then I was like, oh, well, check this shit out. Yeah. Boy, I am frothing at the mouth to do my segment. So can I steal you away? Yes. Thank you.

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Really tiny celebrities who would go on this train wreck instead of like a big talk show. There's just a bunch of people on your show. Jordan Jesse Go, a comedy show for grown-ups so cover songs are great and i'll be the first i'll be the first to say that and admit that um i'm going to talk about a specific one it is uh a song that has had a monumental impact on sort of music nerd YouTube in the last week or so. Oh, yeah. I'm going to get into it. When you shared it with me, I hadn't heard anything about it. It is.

Yeah, I think you have to sort of be on the ground floor of that to necessarily understand that impact, even if you don't. It is remarkable it is a cover of uh the simon and garfunkel song bridge over troubled water uh by jacob collier who i've talked about on this show before he is a sort of music theory youtuber guy yeah he did a series of videos about um uh like explaining harmony to like people of different ages and levels of expertise. He had that like wild run where he showed how you can combine any chord with any other chord to like make it make sense in a progression. He's a genius.

It is his version of this song featuring three incredibly talented vocalists named Yeba, Tori Kelly, and John Legend. three incredibly talented vocalists uh named yeba uh tori kelly and john legend uh that is i didn't realize the last one was john legend yeah well john legend is actually in the middle i don't know why i read the names in the order that i did uh i can't remember the last time a song has like physically like impacted me as as hard as this did i I heard it for the first time last night. I was just lying in bed with my AirPods on, trying to fall asleep and swiping around YouTube, trying to find chill music. And I saw this pop up,

and it is a staggering achievement in music and singing. Yeah. So four years ago, Jacob Collier, who has been doing like music theory, YouTube stuff, he has like also won a bunch of Grammys. I think he's won like four Grammys. He is an absolute genius. He posted like a short, like a YouTube short.

It was sort of like in the vein of like a TikTok collaboration with a gospel singer named Yeba. In it, Yeba sings this incredible, just run-filled acapella version of Bridge Over Troubled Water, which is in its own right, like a beautiful,

one of the most beautiful songs I think ever written. And in this short that he made, Jacob Collier accompanies Yeba with this 12 part choral harmony sort of behind her presented in this like picture and picture and picture and picture and picture style. And people went apeshit for this like 45-second long video because it was so gorgeous and it was so powerful. And also because of like the time length restrictions of shorts cuts off halfway through the first chorus. And so there are people like, this is the most beautiful thing I've ever heard. And it just stops in the middle like, like a Brit.

And it just stops in the middle like like a brit and it just stops and so for four years people like i would sell my soul for a full version of this song uh the the short has like tons of comments on it from people like i can't i listen to this 10 times a day i'm obsessed with this and it breaks my heart that it is not real and and not not a full song. Four years later, he delivered on this song last week with a full version that belongs in like a shrine, like shoot this song into space. It is the Sistine Chapel of vocal performances. So this song, cover the Simon and and garfunkel song it is separated into three parts each one assigned to sort of a different lead vocalist with jacob collier providing all of the acapella backing vocals okay that run like dozens of layers deep uh underneath

it uh i think a few days ago he posted a video to his youtube channel it was actually a live stream for two hours where he just walked through the uh logic uh like like workshop file like showing like how just how deep and intricate and detailed uh of a of a project it is um so the first part starts with yeba and this is the section from the original clip but it's been sort of reorchestrated uh with with his own sort of vocal accompaniment. And it also runs through the whole like first verse and first chorus. It is incredible. I had never heard of Yeba before. She has a remarkable voice, this very soulful gospel voice.

I'm going to play a clip of the song here in a little bit. I can't play the whole song. I know. I was wondering how you're going to do that. Yeah. But the Yeba song was like the original The OG. And maybe you've heard it before. Maybe you haven't. But it is it is a gorgeous way to start out. Just the harmonies behind it are just so just so soulful and so powerful. And then you get to part two where John Legend steps up as the lead vocalist and things like slow down a bit. John Legend has like amazing range going just from these like very like deep resonant like baritones to just like soaring falsetto head voice. I'm familiar with his work. Yes, of course.

All while just an army of Jacob Colliers in the background provide like this very rich vocal backing. I'm going to, we can play a clip now from the John Legend part. The vocals are like amazing. But what I really like about this part is that the chord progression start to just go absolutely ape shit at this part. They start to go bananas. Like Yeba's bit is gorgeous. But in this second bit, it gets like way more experimental in terms of yeah like the chords

and everything like behind john legend's performance so here's a clip of that part of the song so hard i will come for you i'll take your part Yes, when darkness comes And pain is all around Like a bridge I will lay me down Like a bridge

Oh, I trouble, what I I will lay me down So John Legend's bit is just, it's gorgeous. And then it ends and it's quiet and you think like, oh, well, that's it. That's the end of the, that must be the end of the song. Right. And then Tori Kelly steps up to the plate. Uh,

another singer who I was not familiar with, but she does the voice of the elephant in the sing movies. Um, Oh, I didn't know that. Which is sad that that is my main sort of point of contact. Yeah, of course.

Of course, the elephant from the sing movies. Uh, it, I, now I want to become very familiar with her work because this is one of the single best vocal performances I've maybe ever heard. It starts off very soft and quiet and controlled. And the background vocals are similarly very reserved and very restrained. are similarly like very reserved and very restrained and then it ends with not a joke two straight minutes of just stunting just absolute just going on is this the clip that you sent me i said was that yeba uh no the clip that i sent you yeah was tori was tori kelly okay where he

like she and him are going back and forth yeah in these runs yeah he posted a lot of videos of sort of the making of this, including that two-hour live stream. But then he showed a clip of him. Apparently, him and Tori Kelly recorded, like, her vocals in, like, a couple hours in a hurry, like, before having to go off and do a show with Lawrence. And so this clip is, like, Jacob Collier saying, like, so it's going to be like, oh, like, walking her through it she's like oh shit you see her like this incredibly talented vocalist just like nodding like eyes wide at this woodland elf who has like come to uh to show her all of this like incredible stuff and then she just absolutely kills it um this is the clip that i i feel like when you look at the youtube comments it it's all pointing to the same time, like, holy shit, this big in the ground. Uh, so this is a little bit of Tori Kelly's, uh, part of the song. Oh, like a bridge over troubled water

I would lay me down. Lay me, lay me. Lay me down. Lay me down. It's just staggering it is absolutely it is like unrestrained like maximalist uh like composition of what a bunch of voices singing together can sound like and it also does the thing that jacob collier is like really known for in kind of the world of music theory and that he's like very enthusiastic about how flexible uh a composition can, how flexible you can be with things like

chord progressions and specifically like how a theme can resolve, right? That's his big deal. And it's been like a huge point of understanding of music for me that I did not even possess at all. Maybe I would have if I had taken like more proper musical training or music theory training. But this idea of like when you're hearing a song, your mind is filling in the blanks, right? And your mind wants to maybe get back to the key of the song. It wants like wherever you're going in this chord progression, I know that you are going to take me home to the root chord of like whatever section that you're in.

And that is like where I'm going to like relax and feel comfortable and things are going to resolve. The last minute and a half of this is just like him almost like it's, I don't want to call it musical edging because that feels gross and reductive, but it really is you going like, okay, and then almost certainly you're going to stop now, right? Like almost certainly now this is the end of the song and you're going to like finish up the chord progression. No, you've got more, huh? You've got more shit coming down, huh down huh that's wild it yeah i kept kind of waiting for the drop like i thought this was going to be some kind of crazy techno remix that was going to like happen nope just singing there's just building and building

and i was like what what what is it it does resolve like at the end of it but no joke they make you work for it and the whole time you're like jacob please resolve it tori kelly's just like doing like kickflips in the background uh with with just the most one of the most incredible voices i've i have ever ever ever heard my favorite thing that i've been doing today other than like sending everybody that i know like this song i sent it to dad and justin and travis like you guys gotta this felt extremely like dad's shit and sure enough like it hit him real good uh but the other thing I'd be doing is watching videos of singers and vocal teachers reacting to the song um yeah normally I don't get those kind of reacting videos but in this case

definitely I could see that yeah reaction videos I think are a touchy subject because there's a lot of people who see it as just like straight up lifting content. But I actually, I do enjoy it when it is coming from a place of like expertise and explanation. But in this case, I just like watching these musical professionals make some of the gnarliest stink faces I have ever, ever,

ever, ever. Like as soon as Tori Kelly hits that run, like at the end, just like, like the faces that they make, like they are in physical agony of like how unexpected and powerful and beautiful it all is.

I watched this one where this guy was like, I'm a huge fan of, I did a video on the, the Yabba short from four years ago. I've been looking forward to this for a long time. And he like presses play and like, as like gets through the Yabba section. And then John legend comes in like,

if you're any immediate, it's just like, pause, cry, just starts weeping at the beauty of the song. I, it is, it is,

it's a phenomenal song that is genuinely in every way that like one can consider music, like a masterpiece. Like it is, it is, it is incredible. And I'm going to listen to this song a whole whole lot and that's very exciting for me i always really like that yeah but there's something else to this specifically that is especially kind of touching which is this phenomenon of like there are lots of people who have been waiting for this song for a long time uh who have been waiting for this completed for a long time uh who have been waiting for this

completed vision of this song uh that this that this one dude and these you know guest vocalists can can deliver and to see that actually land and be uh better and more experimental and like playful and emotional and powerful than I think anyone could have even imagined is like really, really cool to see and witness. The whole song is like almost six minutes long. It's just six minutes of good singing. And I would heavily encourage you to seek it out and listen to it. It's on an album that he just put out called, I believe, Jesse Volume 4 is the name of it,

but you can find it on YouTube or wherever you get music. And then if you, like me, are as moved by it as you are, there's other videos that he has put out sort of explaining the making of the song that are similarly very fascinating. But that's Bridge Over Troubled Water by Jacob Collier, a very,

very, very special song, I feel. Yeah. I'm happy to have discovered. You want to know what our friends at home are talking about? Yes. Faith says, my small wonder is waking up a few minutes before your alarm. Being on time without that jerk awake is a great start.

I do like that. It doesn't ever happen for me. It used to. I feel like sometimes I would wake up before my alarm, but not, not any longer. I don't really wake up to any alarm. I mostly wake up to, uh, to Rachel waking me up because she has been awake with Gus for a bit. But, uh, I do really, I do like, maybe with a nap, when you set a timer for a nap, not having that alarm, like, hey, get up. I don't know. it's nice for my heart

rate i feel yeah it's i have not really had to set an alarm in a very long time i mean when we're we're like taking a plane or something i have but like day to day like i just the boys always wake me up yeah before seven yeah so it's like why would i set an alarm yeah uh dakota says my wonderful thing is the way that babies learning to talk will have some words down pat from minute one love to hear my little son shout hey that's really good uh gus is going through like a language explosion right now that is really really great really really great a lot of very emotive, like, thumbs down, like, no, thank you. Like, outrageously precocious.

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We'll announce what we've got coming down the pipe for Wonderful maybe next week. Maybe we can start teasing it. Yeah, I was wondering when we should start teasing it it i'm very excited for it to come out yeah it is uh it is a it is a fun a fun and nostalgic little romp for rachel and i uh so i'm excited for you all to hear that uh we got merch over at macrorymerch.com you can go check out some new fun galore stuff uh there's a little a little sailor boy griff. Oh, there is? There is. It's adorable. Oh, I want it. A lot of great stuff over there. I think that's it. Thank you all so much for

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Yeah. Well, you know, I think a Macaroy live show is always a delight. Yeah. I've never been to one and been like boring. Yeah. You know, cause I would,

I mean, if it was like that, I would come up to you afterwards and I would be like boring. You would? No, I would definitely wouldn't. No. But I don't think it will ever happen.

Honestly. I don't even like imagining being Rachel. Um, can you give me some more mean Rachel? Like what else? Like what? It's just like me and the audience going like you stink the whole audience is on me and rachel's side no like i'm i'm leading

the audience oh okay interesting like i like turn backwards to the row behind me and i'm like like you stink you yeah awesome yeah all right then like, I worry that it's not specific enough. So then I, each individual brother, I like lead different chants. About like what's wrong. Like specifically. Give me some examples. Justin stinks. No, it's just stinks.

Oh, okay. Stinks is the whole thrust. So she's not very good at being mean. It's Justin stinks. And then I would go on to Travis stinks. And then I would end with griffin stinks but you would be anticipating it then and so it wouldn't hit me as hard yeah you'd be like you do it was like you're mean and you think i stink but you're still like you're thinking you have my feelings like at heart and that's what's so nice about me yeah thank you Thank you. Maximum Fun.

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