Wonderful! - Wonderful! 365: Real Adult Knife-Fights

Episode Date: March 12, 2025

Griffin's favorite post-watching media analysis! Rachel's favorite alternative to looking out the window!Music: “Money Won’t Pay” by bo en and Augustus – https://open.spotify.com/album/7n6zRzT...rGPIHt0kRvmWoyaWorld Central Kitchen: https://wck.org/

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, this is Rachel McElroy. Your tummy was grumbling as you introduced yourself. I don't know if it came through the mic. I definitely got it in the monitors. This is Griffin McElroy. Are we using this one? If you want, I mean, we don't have to talk about your tummy grumble.
Starting point is 00:00:32 I've never seen that happen before where like the first words out of your mouth were also like some sort of Tuvian throat singing. Like you also emitted like a pretty audible tummy grumble. As if my stomach is like, I've got this one. Yeah, don't worry Rachel. Don't worry vocal cords, I'll handle this one. Hello, it's Rachel.
Starting point is 00:00:52 This is wonderful. It's a podcast you're talking about things you like this good into. And I'll tell you what I'm into, that great big beautiful blue baby that makes up 70% of the Earth's surface. I am talking about the ocean. We just got back, just wave dizzy
Starting point is 00:01:11 and sun kissed off the JoCo cruise. Sorry there was no episode last week. We did a show on the cruise and we were hoping to release that. But it was unfortunately, it didn't get recorded, it was lost to the Briny Deep, to Davy Jones' locker, and so there's oysters and shit down there listening to the episode, not you.
Starting point is 00:01:32 But thank you to everybody who came to see that show, it was a really fun one. It was. I mean, I don't want you, the listener, to hear that if you weren't at the show, because then you'll spend your whole life. I know, I'm really sad we lost that opportunity to share with our listeners on land.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Yes, we talked about, just a quick recap, we talked about dog surfing and there's some like an ocean-based poem in there. You get it. Orinoco Flow, Kokomo. Yeah, unintentionally a lot of ocean music, a lot of crossover there. Anyway, thank you to everybody who came out.
Starting point is 00:02:09 It was truly a lovely time. I'm gonna say Small Wonder is, I mean, my favorite element of the cruise is the being rocked to sleep like a sweet baby every single night. I slept so fucking hard. I think part of it is like, you're moving around a lot, but I think part of it is that you're also like
Starting point is 00:02:30 compensating for ocean movement when you're at sea. And so like, once you spend a whole day kind of like rocking back and forth and adjusting your weight when you lay down in that bed and it keeps sort of rocking you to sleep and you're so tired. Jesus Christ, I slept like the dead on that cruise. That must have been nice for you.
Starting point is 00:02:47 Our baby did, our baby, our almost four year old did wake up. Yeah, did you even register that? There was one night where I fully didn't. I always wake up when Gus wakes up. I can't sleep through our child crying, which I think is an evolutionary trait. Yes, as of late when he wants absolutely nothing
Starting point is 00:03:06 to do with me in the dark night times, I watch you clamber out of bed to head to him. But yeah, not this time, man, I was out. Yeah. Give me small wonders though. My small wonders. I'm gonna say lunch dessert. Oh wow, what a decadent delight.
Starting point is 00:03:23 I almost tried to do a segment on that, like a full jumbo-sized segment on desserts. I'm glad you didn't decide to go through with that. That feels like well-trod territory, perhaps. Yeah, yeah. And also lunch dessert, not something practiced often around the world from what I can tell. But if you are on a cruise ship,
Starting point is 00:03:52 lunch dessert. Yeah, no problem. In the morning, in the evening, even at suppertime. Sure, what was your highlight lunch dessert wise? How? I got some like pineapple soft serve. Okay. That was really fun. Cone, not great, not a great cone.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Well, it was one of those, what, foamy sort of cake cone, I think is the name for it. Yeah. I fuck with those sometimes. If I'm feeling nasty, I like when they get all like- Goopy. Goopy and sloppy. And sometimes I like that, but most of the time, I would prefer a waffle or a sugar cone.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Sugar cones splits the uprights for me. I have a lot of really strong ice cream feelings having been in the field, so to speak. I served my time. I really thought that TCBY only had yogurt, but you tell me that's not true. Not true at all. It's strange that they would be like,
Starting point is 00:04:51 we have the country's best yogurt, and we also have some other stuff that's not as good. Well, they can't be TCBYAIC, like then all of a sudden it sounds like, there's some sort of insurance company that is- As if TCBY, the acronym, is particularly perfect. Well, we know it, right? And so we can't keep at it.
Starting point is 00:05:10 We can't keep talking shit on there. But there's a suggestion of, don't even bother with our ice cream. We have it, but what you want is the yogurt. Yeah, absolutely. I go first this week. This week, I would like to talk to everyone about YouTube explainers, specifically in the form
Starting point is 00:05:27 of movie and TV explainers, of which there are countless channels out there doing the Lord's work. Is this different than a recap or is it the same or what? I mean, recap is I think another word for it. I'm specifically today going to talk about the sort of genre of YouTube videos where they break down shit that has happened in a confusing movie or TV show.
Starting point is 00:05:53 It has genuinely changed the way I sort of consume media and feel about like the movies and TV that I watch, that there is this infinite reservoir of people with like time and brain power that can break down the things in like really convoluted pieces of media. Particularly when there's like a season break. Yes, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:06:15 We talk about that a lot. Like I don't always love the idea of going back and watching an entire season before the next one airs. And so it is nice to have somebody be like, all right, here it is. Specifically for movies though, like I can think of like a half dozen movies season before the next one airs and so it is nice to have somebody be like all right here it is specifically for movies though like I can think of like a half dozen movies off the top of my head where like the existence of a
Starting point is 00:06:37 Thorough kind of like and here's exactly what happened in a diagrammed form that you'll be It'll be easy to follow like that has genuinely enhanced my enjoyment of those you you know, different pieces of media. I'll start by talking about, there's this movie, came out in 2004, very grounded, sort of like sci-fi time travel movie. I rented it from Blockbuster to kind of give you an idea of how long ago this was called Primer. And it's this kind of like mind-bending sort of thriller
Starting point is 00:07:02 where these two guys accidentally invent a time machine, not in like a zany hot tub time machine way, but in like a, you know, we can use this to sort of manipulate the stock market kind of way. But all the rules for, it was a very cool movie, and I really enjoyed what they were going for. What's it called again? Primer.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Primer. It's, they basically invent a box that you turn it on and then you go, you leave, and you can like study the stock market, see what happens over the next six hours. Then you go back and you climb in the box and then you wait six hours. And when you climb out,
Starting point is 00:07:35 it's back at when you turned on the machine. So now you know like six hours worth of like information that you can use to like change it. But at that time, there's also two versions of you walking around, so they have to go to all these great lengths to make sure they avoid any kind of causality or anything that could. When did this come out?
Starting point is 00:07:51 2004, it was an indie movie that, fucking rules, I should have just done Primer as my segment, because it's very, very cool. But also, I watched it when I was a freshman in college, and I was like, cool, I don't really get it. But I get that they're doing this and it's very neat, because they also then start to use the machine in different, more ethically dubious ways
Starting point is 00:08:11 and it's hard to kind of keep track of who is when and what's going on, but then I watched a YouTube explainer for it like 15 years later and was like, oh shit, okay. And I understood the plot of the film a lot better and I rewatched it and I was like, okay. And now it's genuinely one of my like favorite time travel movies ever made. Okay, I mean, I like time travel, for sure. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:08:35 And I don't know, plots like that, where you the viewer can get lost very easily, I feel like before I knew that I could just go on YouTube and figure out what was going on, it would bother me during the movie. It would make me feel like one, oh, I'm missing something, I'm not getting the full picture,
Starting point is 00:08:56 so I'm scrambling. Instead of paying attention to the movie, you're trying to solve the puzzle or whatever, or just feeling like, well, I don't like this movie because I can't understand it, I can't follow it. I like everything they're going for, but the plot is just obviously too complex for my brain to follow, knowing that I can kind of
Starting point is 00:09:13 get those gaps filled in afterwards, and I enjoy doing that. I enjoy when I am fired up about a movie or TV show, I enjoy going and watching sort of what the thing means. And I can think of a ton of movies. Inception, I think, benefits from this. Tenet, I think, benefits from this. Honestly, a lot of Christopher Nolan films
Starting point is 00:09:33 where they're like, we have a really complex system of rules for how this world operates, and it's just up to you to follow along. I like watching a YouTube explainer that's like, so in the airport fight scene, here's exactly what broke down. There's a movie that came out about 10 years ago called Coherence, where this group of friends
Starting point is 00:09:53 is having a dinner party while some comet is passing overhead and they end up accidentally swapping between like alternate realities of different almost identical dinner parties. And you have to kind of keep track of like, who is which original one from the original party and who are people who have stumbled in from other. And it's a very, very neat movie,
Starting point is 00:10:14 but it was like not possible to follow. I mentioned this because earlier this week, my algorithm was like, hey, remember coherence? Here's exactly, here's a diagram. And I watched it and I was like, oh shit, I wanna watch that movie. I think it's funny that a movie that is hard to follow is called Coherence.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Like that's like, that's a Roger Ebert like gift. Well, you see, it's a reference to quantum decoherence, which is. No, of just like, of just like a Siskel and Ebert kind of like, the movie Coherence, unfortunately, lacks itself. That's really good impression. Yeah, I don't know which one that was.
Starting point is 00:10:48 I don't either. Another reason I kind of wanted to talk about this today is because my algo is serving up on different platforms, multiple platforms is serving up countless severance explainers, which I am not, don't turn off this show, don't turn us off. I'm not gonna talk about spoilers or anything like that,
Starting point is 00:11:05 so don't worry, although there is a new episode out today. I know, we haven't watched it yet as we're recording it. I enjoy those a lot for a few reasons. One being like they circle back to hints and like throw away stuff from episodes that maybe came out two years ago at this point, I forget when the first season of Severance came out. And it's helpful, right?
Starting point is 00:11:26 Because I don't remember that stuff. Definitely I don't remember that stuff. So it's helpful to kind of like have these extra puzzle pieces placed in my lap that I can use to kind of like figure it out. And I don't think this is a spoiler. You can cut it out if you think it's too much, but I'll get very vague.
Starting point is 00:11:40 There is a character who has a relationship with a coworker. I can't do it. I think I know what you're going to say. I just wanna say there are a lot of scenes with two characters that are interesting but don't seem particularly consequential. And then now here in the second season,
Starting point is 00:11:57 you're like, wait, what happened during those scenes? Yeah, that's another good way of putting it. What was that interaction like? I know that they interacted, I watched it happen, and now I realize that was a big deal, and I don't remember. Yeah, and that's what's great about having these videos served up.
Starting point is 00:12:13 If you are caught up, I do not appreciate when they show up on my algo, and I have not watched the new episode yet, that is always a bummer. But a show like Severance is so complex, and they are doing a lot of different stuff. And I enjoy having the supplemental information as I myself also try to keep track of what is going on.
Starting point is 00:12:31 But I also enjoy the madcap theorizing that happens in the fandom of Severance, where everyone adopts these major theories of like, well, actually, I think that this means this and this means this. And so these factions form around those theories and then an episode comes out and everybody just starts picking it apart to see
Starting point is 00:12:52 does it disprove my theory? And I think a reason I really enjoy that is because Severance has just proven everyone wrong over and over and over. There is no theory that has kind of survived the thresher of like Severance episodes coming out and being like, eh, actually, this is kind of what's good. And that I think speaks to the kind of like cleverness
Starting point is 00:13:12 and inventiveness of the show. But I like that there is sort of a community that appears around it and you can kind of, just even watching that from the outside in and the like little secret ways that they talk to each other about what they think is happening is really fascinating. I'm starting to wonder if I'm in the minority because there are a lot of shows like Severance
Starting point is 00:13:33 where there's a lot of unknowns and I think an inclination to like figure out what these unknowns mean exists for a lot of people. For me, I'm kind of fine. Not figuring it out. We've talked about this specifically about severance. Yeah, like I don't know if it's your kind of like inclination towards like solving puzzles
Starting point is 00:13:59 that is maybe more powerful than mine. But like while I was watching Lost, for example, I wasn't like, I gotta figure out what's going on here. And I feel the same way about Severance. I kind of push myself in that direction sometimes of like, wait, I wonder if that, but then I ultimately realized I'm enjoying it either way. Sure, for sure.
Starting point is 00:14:20 I don't think that there's a right or wrong way to do it. For me, for a show like Severance, for a show maybe less so for Lost, because that was kind of like pre-Reddit discussions, pre-Deep YouTube explainer series. But definitely for a show like Severance and a few others that I can't think of at the moment, they will have a mystery, right?
Starting point is 00:14:44 There's very clearly a mystery at the heart of Severance. And the way that the show is structured and the storylines that they follow, a lot of them are clearly drip feeding this mystery, right? A lot of it is very, like you will see stuff and be like, that was a clue. And the fact that they are putting that stuff out there
Starting point is 00:15:03 means that like, there's a solution to this puzzle. That isn't necessary, for me it is not some like, I gotta solve this puzzle thing. As much as it is like, I don't know, I feel like it's of like, I mean, it's like reading a mystery book. Like it is a conversation between author and reader or viewer or listener or whatever of like,
Starting point is 00:15:24 okay, so you have a little game here and you want people to guess at what's going on, even if it's wrong, right? And I enjoy sort of being a part of that, especially for a show like Severance, where the stuff that is hidden away, you would not notice on watching it, right? And so seeing, and here's all the stuff that you missed,
Starting point is 00:15:45 I feel like enhances my opinion of the show and my enjoyment of the thing and my embeddedness into the community of people trying to guess it. But at the same time, obviously there are a lot of other stories happening in Severance that aren't about that, that are just fucking rad and really, really, really enjoyable and really, really cool.
Starting point is 00:16:08 I do think it's like different strokes. Like if you are the type of person, and maybe this is informed by like the type of shows you've watched, you know, like growing up, if you grew up watching, you know, Twin Peaks or whatever, maybe you're more likely to try and solve the show that you're watching. I can enjoy a show without that part of things, right?
Starting point is 00:16:28 I can enjoy a movie without that part of things. I enjoyed Primer when I watched it in college because it was cool and it was interesting and it was really well-made. But then when I found out exactly what actually happened in the movie that I watched, it blew it wide open for me and I enjoyed it so much more. And I just enjoy watching the YouTube explainers, right?
Starting point is 00:16:48 Like I enjoy that content on its own as its own sort of like standalone thing. I love a good plot diagram for a time travel movie. I like it a lot actually. And so like, yeah, there's this whole ecosystem of content out there that the very fact that it exists has changed the way I feel while I am watching a particularly dense movie or TV show,
Starting point is 00:17:15 where I don't feel panicked, I don't feel stressed, I don't feel like, oh, I missed it, rewind it, I don't feel any of that, because I know I will enjoy this thing for its merits, I can really dial in and watch the actual story that they are telling. And then for the stuff that I didn't grab, or the stuff that's still kind of like scratching at the back of my mind, I can go on YouTube
Starting point is 00:17:35 or TikTok or whatever later and figure out exactly what it was that I missed to learn what the full story is. And that's great. I think that's great. It's transformed the way full story is. And that's great. I think that's great. It's transformed the way I consume content. And that's kind of wild, but I'm really glad that stuff exists. Can I steal you away?
Starting point is 00:17:52 Yes. Thank you. ["In-Flight Entertainment"] Okay, do you wanna know my wonderful thing this week? Yes. It is in-flight entertainment. Oh baby, yeah. As we mentioned, we were just on a cruise, which meant that we had to fly to Fort Lauderdale and then on the way home, fly to Atlanta and then to DC from San Juan. And that meant several flights.
Starting point is 00:18:27 A whole day of flying. And the thing that kind of was surprising to me was that every flight that we were on had the little screens on the back of the seats. Sure. Because I feel like lately, that's not a consistent thing for me. There's certain airlines that'll get you there.
Starting point is 00:18:42 I feel like JetBlue's almost batting a thousand. Delta more often than not. American United is like who knows. Cause I don't wanna watch things on my phone. I feel like a lot of airlines have done this shortcut of like go to our page and watch all our stuff on your phone. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:00 And I don't like doing that. I tell you, I do it a lot on this iPad. I got the iPad mini. It's about the size of a seat back screen on a plane. Yeah, it's a little bigger. It's perfect. Yeah, I don't like my hot little phone transmitting all this information to me
Starting point is 00:19:15 and also seeing other notifications pop up while I'm trying to, I just don't like it. And the little screen on the back of the seat is still very thrilling to me. It is thrilling. I will say I didn't clock you necessarily and I definitely didn't consume any of that on this trip because our kids were scaling us like sheer cliff faces.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Specifically small son. You're right, our eight year old does not climb us as much. Yeah, I realize, I mean, if you're sitting with a child, one, like you're not really gonna be able to concentrate and two, you have to be thoughtful about what is gonna be on screen. It might potentially, even though a small son watches
Starting point is 00:19:56 all manner of disturbing content on YouTube, I feel like he probably shouldn't see. We try to put down your keyboard. We police it pretty good. It's cartoon violence. But we do a decent job. But it's not like adult nudity, for example. Thank you for clarifying that we don't let our
Starting point is 00:20:14 three-year-old son watch adult nudity on YouTube. Or, you know, like adult, you know, knife fights. Yeah, how they have real adult knife fights on YouTube, we definitely don't let our three year old son watch those either. You use YouTube, so I know you know that they don't have real adult nudity or actual knife fights on there. True, true, but there are a lot of films that do.
Starting point is 00:20:41 And that is why we have to be careful when we put something on a screen. Yeah, sure. So anyway, while it is not something that I am able to enjoy while we are with our children, I am very grateful to see it. And also like kids, especially little son's age, like you put something up there that's colorful
Starting point is 00:20:59 and a lot of moving around, they don't even have to really be paying attention to it. It's just like kind of a nice like thing if your other options have worn out. Yeah, absolutely. So I wanna give you kind of a timeline of in-flight entertainment. Okay, great.
Starting point is 00:21:16 The first ever in-flight film was on an airline called Aeromarine Airways in 1921. Shit, man. It was a promotional short called Howdy Chicago. Okay, hold on. It's 1921, you're flying on an airplane. Yeah. You shouldn't need in-flight entertainment
Starting point is 00:21:36 because it's 1921 and you're flying, you're in the sky, you're flying. Yeah. You should just look around, just consider your current condition. Well, and you're- That's really entertaining. I think this was more of a stunt
Starting point is 00:21:50 because it said a promotional short called Howdy Chicago that was projected on a screen while passengers flew over the city of Chicago itself. Okay. So it was more of a like, look, we're watching something in the air about the city. We're about to, yeah. I don't think this was like every flight
Starting point is 00:22:05 was showing out of Chicago. 1941 live in-flight entertainment becomes popular with airlines hiring actors and singers to keep guests amused. That's, there's, I imagine this is gonna happen many times during this segment, but like, that's crazy because so much of air like business is like how can we maximize the total amount
Starting point is 00:22:29 of human cargo we can fit on a single airplane while- To have like room for a little orchestra. Yeah, just to have a little tiny stage set up and like just having a tuba ready to go is preposterous to me. I know, well planes, I mean, and I didn't do research into this, but planes used to be a lot more about luxury. to go is preposterous to me. I know, well, planes, I mean, and I didn't do research into this,
Starting point is 00:22:46 but planes used to be a lot more about luxury. Sure, yeah. Okay, so 1975, Braniff Airlines offer games of Pong in-air, making it the first to offer in-flight entertainment systems for video games. We gotta talk about this. The game, I will say this, the games that they put on those back of seat screens are a real,
Starting point is 00:23:11 let's call it, mixed bag. Yeah. Because I saw, like on this last flight that we took back from Atlanta, I saw two different people playing games. The guy sitting right in front of me was playing like a trivia game, like seat back trivia game with other people on the plane.
Starting point is 00:23:24 I'm like, okay, that's cool. Then when I went to the back to use the bathroom, while coming back, somebody in the back row was playing a really rough looking platformer, like a Mario type of game where you're a caveman on the back of the seat. And it's like, that's not the optimal gaming condition for this game.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Yeah, I don't know why they're so bad still. Yeah, man. Um, especially when like you have an iPad that has touch screen games on it. Yeah. And it has for a very long time. Why this little thing can't offer that, I don't know. Yeah, you can play fucking Resident Evil 7 on your phone.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Like, why should I have to play Caveman Jump on the back of my Delta airplane seat? We're beyond that as a people. And then of course, you remember the like, the big monitor that was like at the front of the plane that you could watch over the seats. Oh, sure, sure. I remember taking a flight with Travis and Justin and Dad
Starting point is 00:24:26 and they plopped on the incredible Burt Wonderstone on there. And Travis was like, fuck yeah, dude. Yeah, it's kind of an interesting time. I mean, you could still see this on like a coach bus where like the plane decides what everyone will be watching. Hope you creeps like Burt Wonderstone. Who's in that?
Starting point is 00:24:47 I can't remember. Oh man, maybe like Steve Carell. Does that feel right? That does sound right to me. It feels like it. It's a 2013 film. Yeah. I appreciate you Googling that.
Starting point is 00:24:59 It was Steve Carell. Okay, great. And Jim Carrey and Steve Buscemi. Okay. I didn't pay super close attention. Wow, what a cast. Here's what I will say. It was Steve Carell and Jim Carrey and Steve Buscemi. Okay. I didn't pay super close attention. Wow, what a cast. Here's what I will say.
Starting point is 00:25:08 I didn't pay very good attention to Burt Wonderstone nor do I pay very good attention to, I'll watch a movie on there sometimes if it's a long flight, since I have been able to play like Game Boy since the day of my birth. Like I don't really stress so much about that stuff, but good for everyone else. And hospitals all over were carrying little Game Boys
Starting point is 00:25:33 into the incubator. I popped out with a Game Boy color, and the doctor was like, holy shit, this isn't even gonna be around for like six years, it's crazy. So the first like seat back screen came about in the 80s and it was a 2.7 inch screen. That's so cute, look at that little guy.
Starting point is 00:25:59 You'd see like five pixels of Steve Carell casting, doing magic. It's like a little flip phone Carell casting, doing magic. It's like a little flip phone, but like on a seat. I love that. You can play snake on that thing. In 1988, Northwest Airline and British Airways tested the sets by installing 119 seat back screens in the business and economy cabins of a Boeing 747.
Starting point is 00:26:25 It was a six channel air vision system that offered films, sports and children's programming. I mean, that was probably back when it was like, they would just press play on six DVD player, VHS players at the front of the play that you would get to watch, you know, Batman or something like that. It wasn't like on demand entertainment.
Starting point is 00:26:47 It was like switch your set to channel four if you wanna watch risky business. No, and you had to like, in coach, you had to pay for like a four to $8 fee. Yeah, which today translates to six to $700. Pay six to $700 to watch the big starting from the middle. No, not even that recent. The program included Hitchcock's classic Dial M for Murder.
Starting point is 00:27:11 Amazing, yeah. An episode of TV's Night Court. Holy shit. Or a Rod Stewart rock video. Just on loop over and over. Ladies and gentlemen, we're coming in for landing on this two and a half minute flight from Minneapolis to Chicago.
Starting point is 00:27:31 And then obviously it gets a little bit bigger than it's 4.3 inches. Now we're talking. And then, you know, it's by the 90s, you know, we're talking about something more similar to what you see today. But yeah, I will say like, when I am flying by myself as an adult,
Starting point is 00:27:57 and I have an opportunity to watch a film that I did not see in the theater because I have young children, or like watch a television series. Like it is thrilling. Because what I do, I still bring kind of like a set quantity of entertainment with me on a plane, you know? Like even if it's like podcasts or whatever,
Starting point is 00:28:18 like at a certain point I would like to change what I am doing. And I just, I love, I love that luxury, man. Of just endless or finite programming in front of me in a screen. If you really got into that gamer life, the plethora of options awaiting you would truly blow you away. And you know, you're getting there.
Starting point is 00:28:40 You're getting there. Yeah, I don't know, man. We don't have to explore that topic any further. Let's talk about what our friends at home are talking about. Micah says, I'm a pastry baker and my small wonder is when I'm measuring dough and managed to magically plop down the perfect gram amount onto the scale in one cut. Same magical feeling comes along with cracking
Starting point is 00:28:59 the perfect gram amount in eggs. There's nothing quite so satisfying. Every one of my pastry shop loves to announce these little victories to one another because we all see it as a good omen for the day. Love the show so much. Thanks for keeping me company while I bake. That was Micah.
Starting point is 00:29:10 How wonderful. I do love this so much. I remember one time I was making pretzels and I really, really went kind of mad trying to get the perfect dough amount every single plop. And it's satisfying every time. Maddie says, hi, my small wonder is when musicians include snippets of conversation at the end of songs,
Starting point is 00:29:31 e.g. Sabrina Carpenter's nonsense and Ringo Starr after Helter Skelter. I feel like I'm getting a special glimpse into the creative process. I do like that. What's the one where they're like, I've got blisters on my fingers? I don't know, I've heard that referenced, but I don't. I've got blisters on my fingers. I don't know, I've heard that referenced, but I don't.
Starting point is 00:29:46 I've got blisters on me fingers. I wanna say, I do think it's, is it maybe Ringo Starr and Helter Skelter? Why would he have blisters on his fingers? He's a drummer. Well, you get blisters from drumsticks. Yeah, but you get them on your palms, from the grrr-ta-ta-ta-ta.
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Starting point is 00:30:34 and Raleigh, North Carolina with Mbembem in April. We're also coming to Michigan, Minnesota, and Ohio. All the Taz shows are gonna be in the Taz versus series. We're considering doing a Shakespeare run, starting with Taz versus Romeo versus Juliet, which I did back in Tampa, and it was a hell of a lot of fun, and I think out now for you to listen to. Tickets are on sale now.
Starting point is 00:30:54 More info and ticket links are available at bit.ly slash McElroy Tours. And we have a bunch of new merch over on the merch store. There's a hoodie for a fictional anime show called Vesecticon and it was designed by Evan Palmer based on a joke from Mbembe. It's one of my favorite things we've ever sold on the shop. 10% of all merch proceeds this month
Starting point is 00:31:14 will be donated to Harmony House. Perfect for the person in your life that is considering and or has recently had a vasectomy. Yes. Just a way to really commemorate their. They're what? Their entrance into this universe of sterility. Yeah, of voluntary sterility, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:33 I fucking love this universe, man. I'm living for it. That's it, thank you so much for listening. I hope you're ready for Max Fun Drive, starts next week. We're gonna be streaming like every day, so don't touch that dial, it's got jam on it, and we'll see you later, bye! Bye! Working on money won't pay. Working on money won't pay.
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