Wonderful! - Wonderful! 378: Boss Socks Energy

Episode Date: June 18, 2025

Griffin's favorite sometimes-haunted shield from the weather! Rachel's favorite repurposed building!Music: “Money Won’t Pay” by bo en and Augustus – https://open.spotify.com/album/7n6zRzTrGPIHt0kRvmWoyaTransgender Law Center: https://transgenderlawcenter.org/

Hi, this is Rachel McElroy. Hi, this is Griffin McElroy. This is wonderful. Why are you laughing at me? Why are you always laughing at me? You took your socks off with such decisive, the bosses is here, energy. So I took my socks off in a manner

that suggested that I'm the boss. The way that you push up your sleeves when you're ready to get work done is the way you took your socks off. That's cool. Like, all right, let's get down to business. Is like if the, like a hard-nosed journalist, like Woodward and the other guy,

and they're like, instead of pushing up their sleeves, they take off their socks. I'm not gonna say the other guy's name because I think that you left that out for comedic effect. No, I don't, Bob, some, Bernstein? Yeah. Woodward and Bernstein? Yeah.

Anyway, those two guys ripping off their fucking sweaty old socks, ready to get to the hard work of reporting the news. That is not what I was doing. It's 600,000 degrees, and I just took my socks off for- In the Caribbean seas? Uh-huh. I was doing Will Smith's

part party in the city when he- Are you out of breath from that joke? Are you out of breath from referencing Will Smith's Miami? Sometimes when a reference feels particularly sweaty to me, I get out of breath trying to continue doing it. Yeah, I hear you. I'm glad to hear you verbally recognize that what we do is hard work.

He says something about the Caribbean seas with the hot mommies. Oh, cool. Saying. Tell me more. Don't stop. Don't stop. Keep telling me more about the city where the heat is on

all night on the beach till the break of dawn. Please tell me more about Big Willy Style, a life that I lived. Lived? Yeah, I lived it. I lived Willy Style. Not anymore. Look at me.

When have you, in the time that you have known me, have I ever lived with Willy Style? I would like photographic evidence of you having lived Willy Style. Okay, I would like photographic evidence of you having lived Willy-style. Okay, I'll get that. So you get this, turn of the Willenium, appropriately enough, it was big in West Virginia. Will Smith was huge in West Virginia.

This is wonderful. Should we talk about the things that we like that's good, that we're into? You got any small Wendy's? Geez. Man. Yeah, he's? Geez, man. Yeah, he's great, I agree. Dive for our sins. Do you think people called him geez?

I think probably Simon of all the apostles. I don't know enough about this. How many of the 12 apostles? You can't name any of the 12 apostles? I mean, name any common Christian names. So Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, are those the apostles? Yeah, probably. Look at you.

Thomas, doubting Thomas, Judas, obviously. And then I think there were a couple Johns. Simon, you said Simon was such- Simon feels right, doesn't he? I could do mine first. I think I said the Switch 2 the last episode, sure. Did you think about the fact, so here's the thing, I didn't tell you this yet, now it's content,

which is fantastic. Hell yeah. Our son declared that he wanted to have some friends over to play the Switch 2, and when I reached out to one of the moms, she said, oh yeah, my son told me that Henry had a Switch 2. And I thought like, wow, we're that family. We're that family that the kid runs home and says, well, Henry has a Switch 2.

And I was like, what an honor. Well, they should say Henry's dad is professionally obligated. No, none of those parameters are mentioned. No, I know. Like we're just that family. I know, and I wanna go to those parents and I'm gonna say, it's a professional obligation.

What an honor. It is a huge honor. I feel revered by all of the second graders in our neighborhood. Anyway, what is your small honor? I've been playing Tears of the second graders in our neighborhood. Anyway, what is your small wonder? I've been playing Tears of the Kingdom again. It's that Zelda game. It's that Zelda game.

It's one of the best fucking games ever made. You can build stuff, and Henry's been playing it with me now too. It came out in 2023, and it's a very complicated game, and he couldn't really hang with it then, and now he can kinda hang with it. And it's just fun, cause like I'll play it for a little while while he's at school

and I'll like knock out some shrines and I'll get some new armor and some upgrades and stuff and then he'll play it for a while and I'll come back and he's just made a big man out of rocks that he stuck together. It's like shit, yeah dude, you can do anything in this game. I love it, it's really, really good. Do you have a small?

Oh, I know what I was gonna say. So I went to the gym today. Cool. And there was a woman there with, had to have been her son, like college age son. And it was kind of darling because she kept going over to him. This is a woman I've seen at the gym a lot.

She's like a regular. And her son must have been home for the summer and she had brought him for the first time and she kept like running over to like give him tips. Oh God, that's good. And there was one point where he wiped his face with his shirt and almost fell off the treadmill because he like, he had covered his face with his shirt and almost fell off the treadmill. Because he had covered his face with his shirt

and then started to move back on the treadmill because it was still in motion and almost fell over. And then she ran over and was like, so you're gonna wanna use the towel to wipe the sweat. The towel is to wipe the sweat off your face. And I kind of loved it, I mean, not just for the kind of the- The sweetness of it. And I kind of loved it, I mean, not just for like the kind of the- The sweetness of it.

The AFV of it all, but also like those moments where I realized like one day I will be the mother of a college-aged son. And I like- Our boys are gonna be real gym rats. No, I just had the moment of like feeling some empathy for the son who was probably like a little bit embarrassed to be like basically an adult male

having his mom explain to him what a towel is for. But then also recognizing like as the mom, like yeah, I would probably still also do that for my adult child. So yeah, it was just kind of a nice, nice like full 360 view moment. How were the gains? Oh, the gains?

You know, it felt good to have just any opportunity to gain it all. I didn't, it was a late decision for me to either go. So it felt- I heard the door slam seven minutes before the usual gym time. Yeah, I was sitting on the couch and I had basically decided not to go. And then I looked at the clock and I was like, wow, damn. I was sitting on the couch and I had basically decided not to go.

And then I looked at the clock and I was like, you know what, I'm gonna do it. And I ran out the door and I'm glad I did. You look huge, babe. In like a great way. Imposing. And I love my big, beautiful wife way. I love my huge, powerful wife.

Powerful wife. Okay. I go first this week. You wanna know it? What I'm doing? Sure. Umbrella. Not the song, not the-

Not even the song. Not even the song. It's not even in my top. It doesn't even chart of my favorite Rehome track. Not the like, we're all together under this big, beautiful umbrella. I guess the symbolism of umbrella can fall under this umbrella.

But you're talking specifically about the tool used to keep rain off of you. Yeah, and it sounds like you're saying it in a sort of dismissive way when it's an umbrella. It seems like a- You know what's fucked up? I feel like you don't actually like umbrellas all that much. I do like umbrellas.

It doesn't seem like it. I do. This seems like one of those things where you're like, this is probably a small wonder. Not to me, baby. I love a good umbrella. You think I've got 10 minutes on umbrella. I'm not even talking about the aesthetic idea of umbrella.

I'm talking about, I love to have a good umbrella. All right, let's see. If I'm walking around, rain or shine with a good umbrella in my hand, I feel ready. I feel prepared. Ladies and gentlemen, let's start the timer. Okay. 10 minutes on umbrella. This is a fun energy.

We, I feel like exclusively used to rock with those rinky dink tiny little umbrellas that you would buy at like a Walgreens or whatever that would last you a couple storms before one of the poles just went flying out of it in the middle of a storm. And so when we moved here, a few months after we moved here, we were like, wow, it actually rains a lot more here

than it did in Austin. So I invested in that nice, big, sort of burgundy colored, large umbrella that can cover you and a child or a lover fairly easily. And I just love that thing. And I am excited whenever I have opportunity to take it out of the house and possibly deploy it. You did when it was raining the other day,

you got really excited to offer it to me. And I explained to you that I do not prefer to take that with me on the train because it is basically like bringing a whole other person with me on the train. Well, I guess if you leave it deployed on the train, but if you fold it deployed on the train, but if you fold it up. It's just, it's close quarters in there.

And it is pretty close quarters. But I don't, I do appreciate that it does offer maximum coverage. I'm fine with a small to medium sized umbrella if it's of substantial build. Like my problem with a smaller umbrella, one, you can't share it with a- With a lover.

With a lover. But I don't usually like go out, I don't usually dress for rain. I don't usually like say, well, it's raining, so I'm gonna wear my galoshes and my raincoat. As some people are wanting to do. Should you have some galoshes? I'm specifically doing this segment saying I don't need to because I have this incredible pool called umbrella.

I know, it's just that I bought myself some rain boots like a few years ago and it feels like a nice accessory. I did step in a puddle the other day and my shoes got pretty wet and I didn't like that. I think it's like the peak of human ingenuity that we devised like a portable ceiling for ourselves. And it's such a natural thing, like it fulfills one of the real foundational pillars of the hierarchy of needs,

which is famously separated into pillars. It's a pillar based system that Laszlo came up with. Maslow or Laszlo, I feel like I fucked that up every time. Yeah, thank you. It's such a basic like primitive need that it fills that it has shown up like all throughout sort of history across different civilizations in different forms. They've been around for a long ass time.

Before, of course, they were umbrellas. They were exclusively called parasols. The Oxford English Dictionary cites the word umbrella as surfacing for the first time in 1611. Parasol, of course, is a combination of the Latin parar, which means to shield and sole for sun. In France, an umbrella is called, I'm gonna do a bad job with this, I apologize,

paraplui, as plui, is the word for rain. Yeah. So it's a rain shield. A rain shield. There's also a snow shield, but I can't remember what the name of that was. In ancient Egypt around 2450 BCE, very long time ago, they had what's called a phlebellum. A lot of fun words in this segment already,

which is basically like, you've probably seen them in TV and movies depicting the era. It was basically like a huge fan that you could use for fanning off someone or as shade. But because it was flat, right? It was like a flat extension of the handle. You couldn't really use it on yourself. You would most of the time just use it.

So sort of organically, it was a thing that was used for fancy royal types of people. Most historians think that the first folding umbrella design originated in China over 3,000 years ago, where they were first made out of paper and bamboo rods for support, and then later were sort of lacquered and oiled to make them waterproof.

But they have appeared like throughout different countries folklore in different ways, which I find very interesting. Like it's such an old tool that it shows up in stories and stuff. In Japan, umbrellas have like sort of an interesting sort of place in their like artistic and mythological heritage. The most ubiquitous of that is a yokai,

which is a ghost in sort of Japanese folklore. And this yokai is called Kasa Obake, and he's just this silly, one-eyed, one-legged umbrella ghost who hops around. Just any sort of a lighthearted silly, like a silly specter that you might see at like a haunted house that isn't meant to actually terrify the shit out of you.

He's like Slimer. He's like a fun ghost. Sidebar, Kasa Okabe is also part of this subgroup of yokai from Japanese folklore called Tsukumo-Gami, which are tools that after like 100 years, after long enough, they just get haunted and turn into fun little characters. I love that.

But if you look up like the history of umbrellas, the truth is that lots of different cultures kind of started to figure it out a very long time ago. In America, widespread umbrella usage was like pretty slow to spread because they were regarded as, and this is a quote from a study that someone did in 1991 on like the history of umbrellas.

They were regarded as a quote, ridiculous effeminacy. Until they were sort of adopted as a more sort of adopted as a more sort of unisex sun and rain protection method in like the mid 20th century. Cause I can see like parasols were a big thing for a while and they were real frilly. And I can like picture a time period

where people with big frilly dresses had like big frilly matching parasols. Sure. But I see them as so elegant. I wonder if singing in the rain helped a lot. It feels like this very glamorous accessory. It does kind of feel like a glamorous accessory. I do think singing in the rain

probably has something to do with that. But there is also a pretty long history of umbrellas being cool things in like fiction in different ways. There was, you know, your James Bond's, your Kingsman, the movie with the guy. In the sixties, there was this British spy show called The Avengers that they made a movie out of

with Uma Thurman and someone else in it in like the 1990s. But the main guy in The Avengers, not the comic book Avengers, but these British spies was named John Steed and he had this cool umbrella that was like bulletproof, but it also had a sword inside the handle. God, that's the coolest shit ever. That shit's so good.

And when I carry it around, a nice hefty umbrella of a good build, I think, what if? What if I could flip a little switch and, whing, sword, awesome. It does really feel like a demonstration of my preparedness, too. I really do like a demonstration of my like preparedness too. Like I really do like walking around with an umbrella

and really showing everybody like, look, look, I knew. I knew I did my research. I knew this was gonna happen. I brought the right tool and I was ready. Yeah, it does feel good. It does. Like you have a leg up because you looked at outside. Oh, it's raining, let me get out my umbrella,

because I knew. Because I knew and you didn't, and you should be embarrassed. And of course, when you talk about applications of umbrella throughout fiction, you gotta hit your Mary Poppins, gotta hit your Kirby also. Things that teach us that umbrella can be used to fly

are at the very least slow your rate of descent to a safe degree. Penguin. Penguin, penguin. Penguin, I don't think use it to fly. Penguin use it- Hypnotize. Gun.

Oh, shoot. Yeah. So anyway, that's another. He might've used it to fly. I don't know. Penguin's fucking weird, man. They made the show. I didn't watch the show that came out,

I guess last year or earlier this year, the HBO show with, why can't I remember anyone's name, Colin Farrell? Does that sound right? You're asking the wrong person. Damn it, but his powers or whatever, it seemed like kind of like they're making him up as they go and that when he doesn't have powers. But in the movies where it is Danny DeVito,

he had an umbrella that could shoot out bullets and also I think he can talk to birds. I'm like 90% sure the penguin can talk to birds and that he can make birds do crime for him. Yeah, I mean, right, there's been so many iterations. I'm sure one of them could. Yeah, that's cool. It's cool that we have a character in American fiction

who can fill so many roles depending on whether or not we need him to talk to birds or not. That's awesome. Umbrellas are so sweet. I only use them for rain. I do think with summer approaching, I wonder if I am entering my parasol era. I do like them for sun.

I get it, man. I appreciate it, man. I appreciate it. Absolutely. I'm very sensitive to the Sun's UV rays. And so a little parasol would go a long way. Like them at the beach? I love a huge umbrella at the beach.

Oh my God, the best. I love videos of umbrellas flying wildly out of control on a gusty day at the beach. As long as no one's getting hurt, it's cool to see them, like hell yeah man, go for it. I love videos of tents that have been swept up and are just flying around in the sky like a beautiful plastic bag American beauty style

as long as no one gets hurt. I love that shit. But today I really wanna focus on umbrellas and I've done so and I'll eat my hat if that wasn't 10 minutes. So eat my shorts, Rachel McElroy. Can I steal your way? Yes.

["Pizza Hut Theme Song"] All right, my topic this week Yes. is used to be a pizza hut. Yeah. So yeah, absolutely. Sometimes I can't tell when you're about to hit a poetry corner. And so like sometimes I feel like you set me up

to like come in there with the, and I think it's because in the break there that we just took between segments, you were scatting quite a bit. I was a little bit, yeah. And so I was like in that head space, but I would love to talk about used to be a Pizza Hut. Yeah.

So this, I actually stumbled upon this because I was thinking specifically about when fast food restaurants are repurposed for other businesses. And you can tell what they used to be. Sure, not many places fit that description better than a Pizza Hut. Yeah, and I went to Google it

because I thought internet don't let me down. Clearly somebody has documented this. And nothing came up right away. Shame. But what ended up happening was that it did, specific to Pizza Hut. And it just so happens that there is a 99% invisible episode. Of course.

Episode 103 that is called UTBAPH, Yeah. Which stands for, used to be a Pizza Hut. The direct immediate of the website usedtobethepizzahut.com. That is all about the creation of this blog by Mike Nielsen that tracks the locations of Pizza Hut's across the United States and seven other countries where Pizza Hut's

have been repurposed into other establishments. Do you wanna just, maybe for our friends at home who maybe they've never been to a Pizza Hut, which I can't blame them. I've been to Pizza Hut exactly once in the last two decades just outside of Morgantown in the middle of a road trip with our kids. So it's not, I think, the hottest destination.

Yes, so, and you can get a lot of this from the 99% Invisible episode. But Pizza Hut began in 1958. It started in Wichita, Kansas. The story is that two brothers, Dan and Frank Carney, bought a building. They got a sign that only had room for eight letters. This feels like suspicious, but apparently,

this is the story. They figured the first five ought to be pizza. Good. And that left them three letters. Shit, man, that's sliding doors. Can you imagine if like we were all talking about pizza boy? I know. I gotta get down to pizza dog.

Or if there had been like nine letters and then it would have been like pizza zone. Gotta go to pizza zone. Right? Pizza zone would be good because you could make one of the Z's in pizza extra big and have it be the Z for zone two. But then people might think it says pizza one.

You see what a big decision this was. This is a huge decision for the Carney brothers. The building itself was pretty small, so they ended up calling it Pizza Hut. But what ended up happening in the late 90s, early 2000s, Pizza Hut shifted towards a carry out and delivery model. So a lot of the Pizza Hut started to be repurposed. It's one of the many things that have obviously changed

from our childhood. But I did used to go into a Pizza Hut fairly frequently, usually on our way back from church for a Sunday luncheon. And it was so lit. I remember they had those red, like, Lucite cups that I would drink soda out of, and that was so good. And they also had one of those flat-top Super Mario Brothers arcade machines,

which was also so choice. So yeah, part of it is like very nostalgic because like the experience of a Pizza Hut was like very specific. Right. Like the cups, as you mentioned, like the inside was like. Very dark and red.

Yeah, and a lot of that was kind of like, not just like the materials that like decorated it, but the design of the building itself. Yes. So in the 99% invisible episode, that decorated it, but the design of the building itself. So in the 99% invisible episode, they talk a lot about that. They talk about the trapezoidal awnings. And then there's the roof hump that shoots up straight over the awnings and that a lot of the windows

were kind of trapezoids also. Now this kind of changed, because I guess different franchise owners were able to make changes. But yeah, a lot of those windows were kind of small and shaped oddly. And what's fun about it is that it also became their logo, was the sort of trapezoidal shape

of the roof and the awnings. And so it's the only thing I can really think of where the logo and the architecture sort of informed one another, which made it, I imagine, pretty difficult to change either. Yeah, no, that's a good point. That's a good point. So all that to say, like, that is why

when something has been repurposed that used to be a Pizza Hut, like, you can tell almost immediately. This is some sort of corporate building of some sort, and also it has this insane pagoda-style roof that overhangs unlike every other building on the street. So this website used to be apizzahut.com has started as like a blog since 2008.

And they have over 270 locations. And there are like hundreds that are pending because like the way it is set up, like you can submit it when you see one and you want it to be considered. There is also in 2024, there is a new documentary about these buildings. Documentary is called Slice of Life,

the American Dream and Former Pizza Hut. It came out in 2024. It is an 83 minute film, which premiered at the South by Southwest Sydney, which I didn't know was a thing in Sydney, Australia. Okay. They are South. They're very South. They're very South.

But it looks amazing. I watched the trailer for it. You can rent it or stream it. But it talks about all the different locations of a former Pizza Hut. It goes to like churches and like dispensaries and. Damn, dispensary is an awfully canny usage of a Pizza Hut building.

Because there's gotta be a residual scent in there that I have to imagine is gonna drive a weed head wide. There's bars and they're all featured in the documentary and it just kind of talks about like, and of course like different restaurants, like Chinese food and like Mexican restaurants and all this stuff. Any pizza restaurants? You gotta wonder if that's even allowed.

I mean, I'm sure, I'm sure. That's gotta be crazy. But yeah, anyway, I would encourage you to go to the website, it's fascinating. I went to the, of course I couldn't help myself. Like you go to the website, you can click around the map and see. I lost a good 15 minutes.

Yeah, there is one in St. Louis, but it's actually like pretty far outside of St. Louis, but it's called the St. Louis Crematory. Okay. Which I was like. And you need to tell me right now if they make ice cream or if they prepare people for. They cremate people.

Okay. Which is. Different. Remarkable. Yeah. Yeah. Their coverage, I will say of West Virginia is a bit lackluster. There's like none.

Here's the thing, there are like over 300 pending right now. I think a lot of them gotta be in the mountain state. This man clearly does not have the resources to- Gotta have a street team. Yeah, keep on top of all of the pending submissions. But man, I love this. And the one thing I will say, just to kind of close about the 99% invisible piece

that I love so much, it's Sam Greenspan did it. And he talks about like, obviously this can be kind of viewed in a sad way when you think about like, obviously this like, you know, demonstrates some kind of, you know, could be interpreted as like a failure on Pizza Hut's part that all these restaurants are no longer in operation.

But he said, quote, like the pyramid, the Pizza Hut, the humble Pizza Hut succeeds in etching its identity onto everything else that will ever come after it. It is at that level. Yeah, I like that. I like that. It's like so recognizable, it's so iconic that regardless of what takes its place, you will still always remember what was there. Yeah, I like that. I like that. It's like so recognizable, it's so iconic that regardless of what takes its place,

you will still always remember what was there. Which was a pizza hut, I do like that too. Do you wanna know what our friends at home are talking about? Yes. Emily says, my small wonder is that every year in Minneapolis, there's a giant pencil sharpening ceremony in someone's yard.

They carved an old tree into a giant pencil and they ceremoniously sharpen it every year, drawing thousands. It's such a silly thing that makes me love how silly humans can be. They sent a picture of this giant pencil and they ceremoniously sharpen it every year drawing thousands. It's such a silly thing that makes me love how silly humans can be. They sent a picture of this giant pencil. I do love that as well. I love a harmless, silly, silly project.

Got another one here from Jasper who says, "'My Small Wonder' is using a box cutter to cut a box. It's something I do often to get them in the paper recycling and whenever I push the little blade into the cardboard, I can't help but think, this is exactly what you were made for. And then they did include a smiley face emoticon

here at the end. Which, yeah, I agree. That is really nice. I always think that as a tool we should have more readily available, but then I always panic that our children will. It's scary. I must have accidentally injured myself

with a box cutter or something in my past because I remember, like, they freak me out a little bit. Those and X-Acto knives, I think. Yeah. I, that's so, a general purpose pocket knife, I can usually find my way around and not hurt myself. We must have gotten one when we moved one time. Because I feel like I remember having a lot of them

around the house at one time. Just a bunch of box cutters laying around the house? Yeah, I feel like when we unpacked at one location, we decided it would be good to have a few. Some box cutters, okay. I don't believe you, they're too scary. I've always been so scared of them. But I do think it's cool when you use them to cut a box.

Satisfying. So satisfying. We're quoting our four-year, don't we say that? Because he learned it, I guess, from an ASMR video, like slime videos and stuff. And now whenever he does something tactile in any way, so satisfying. And he will demand that we agree with him.

Satisfying, right? Isn't this so satisfying? Yeah, man, for sure. Kids Say the Darst Things, thanks to Bowen and Augustus for the use of our theme song, Money Won't Pay. That was them. You can find the link to that in our episode description. We got some shows coming up.

If you are planning to come see us in Anaheim for either the Taz or the Mim-Bim-Bam shows, we have had to switch the days that those shows are taking place. The Taz show in Anaheim, which is gonna be our Dadland show with Brennan Lee Mulligan, has been moved to Saturday, July 12th. It was gonna be on Friday, July 11th. We have pushed it back. And the Mbim-Bam show that was supposed to be on the 12th is now going to take place on Friday, July 11th.

We're very, very sorry for the inconvenience. I know it's a pain in the ass to make plans around stuff like this, and we would not do it lightly. It is the only way that we could get this to happen. Previously purchased tickets are gonna be valid for the new date, and if you're unable to attend, refunds will be available for up to 14 days before the show at the point of purchase. But we also have other shows going up very, very soon. We're actually going to be doing Taz, Amma, Bim Bam, and Columbus this week, June 19th and 20th, during the Origins Game Fair, and we have other shows coming up too. You can find out links and dates and all that at bit.ly slash McRoy Tours.

And we have a bunch of merch over at the McRoy Merch Store that you can check out too, including a Faster Than Fear Miggie Standee, which is really, really amazing. And 10% of all merch proceeds this month will be donated to the Transgender Law Center. Also, we can talk about this now, because I don't know if you know this,

we're announcing it on Monday. I'm writing a Choose Your Own Adventure book for the Choose Your Own Adventure book company. Yeah, you are. And I've been working on it for a while now, and I'm super duper excited. It's called The Stowaway. It's like an outer outer space spaceship survival story.

And it's a Choose Your Own Adventure book. And- That's so freaking cool. It's, I have always loved that entire genre, that entire format. I was obsessed with it when I was a kid. And so I am overjoyed to get to do this, to have this opportunity.

I can't wait until there's like cover art for it. Yeah, I also cannot. We're recording this before the announcement has happened, so I'm not sure exactly what is sort of out there. I believe pre-orders are available, but if you check our social channels, like on Instagram and stuff, I'm not sure. I'm gonna share the heck out of that.

Yeah, me too, man. So yeah, it's not coming out for a while, but now you can know about it, and I'm excited, because I've been working on it for a while. Okay, that's it. Thanks for listening, and I hope you'll join us again next time here on Wonderful because we really like having you. You're a great guest.

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