Wonderful! - Wonderful! 379: Alternate Suite of Etiquette Expectations
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Hi, this is Rachel McElroy.
Hello, this is Griffin McElroy.
And this is wonderful.
And ding, ding, ding, that's the alarm
that goes off to warn you, the listener,
that the one you're gonna hear right now,
it has the makings of having pretty big sleepover energy.
The vibe I'm getting that I'm feeling in the room right now
is big, sort of silly, sort of tired sleepover energy.
And or like an NPR kind of like drive time. big, sort of silly, sort of tired, sleepover energy.
And or like an NPR kind of like drive time.
Tender.
Yeah.
Tender and mild.
Yeah, just kind of like a we're sharing a story
about your local shop that sells a certain kind of plant.
Yeah, oh God, babe, you're serving it up so hot right now.
That you can't get anywhere else in Maryland.
The breathy thing that you're doing right now
is spectacular.
It's wonderful for me.
That's my small wonder is the voice you just did.
I've never heard it before like that.
We talked to Julia Stevenson about this plant.
It's great, babe.
It's great.
I'm gonna put on this clip of wonderful at night
when it's time to go to sleep
because I felt so soothed and nurtured
and taken good care of.
I also revealed my secret desire to be.
An NPR voice?
Yes, but my name is too boring.
Well, you could go back to a whiner.
That's something.
It's like, it certainly stands out.
I would have to throw in my middle name too.
Like I need more syllables in there.
Yeah, you have a kick-ass middle name.
Yeah.
Gadzooks.
Rachel's middle name is after the store, Gadzooks.
I had to warn y'all, it's gonna be a silly one.
It's late, it's 9.05, which is late for us.
Shut up.
My parents met inside of Gadsuit.
It's true.
They were both buying novelty hats.
They both were buying tuxedo t-shirts
that also said female body inspector on them.
They were both buying them.
It was really amazing.
Do you, this is the fourth piece of recorded content
I've made today.
I wanna explain another reason why I made you have
some sleepover and why I sound so smoky.
Can you imagine my life that involves only making
just this piece of recorded content?
I mean, a lot of people ask how do the Macroids,
they have it all.
And they're like, how do they do it?
Work, love, life, family, how do they do it?
How do you do it all?
And the answer is sometimes it piles up
in a really major way on a, just on a Tuesday
and you end up doing all your shit.
And then wonderful is this one.
And I'm so excited to be here in the studio.
I did not feel like recording a podcast
after our son put up such a huge fight and going to bed.
But now that we're here and we're in it and we have these warm cups of lovely tea, I feel like recording a podcast after our son put up such a huge fight and going to bed. But now that we're here and we're in it
and we have these warm cups of lovely tea, I feel like.
What kind of tea are we drinking tonight?
This one is Blueberry Wild Child
from the Tiesta Tea Company.
They're not a sponsor, but.
But they should be, it's so delicious.
It is a great product that they make.
Do you have any small wonders?
I feel like we've talked about nine or 10 different things
that we actually genuinely like quite a bit.
Yeah, cherries are in season right now.
Dude, stone fruit season is now.
I have never eaten a cherry as delicious
as the ones you gave me last week.
It was so delightful.
Griffin and I do not consume a lot of produce.
Part of that is just we have two young children
who just by law do not consume.
A ton of it.
Much in the way of fruits or vegetables.
I love an apple, that's about as far as I know.
Yeah, and so I purchased these cherries.
They had a little helpful sign that said in season,
and I said, okay, thanks for the reminder.
And I was so excited to share these with Griffin,
and last night he dove in, and I was so excited to share these with Griffin and last night he dove in and he was so excited.
Yeah, no, I mean, it's been a long time
since I've eaten cherries
because every time I've eaten cherries,
they've been like really sour and sort of unpleasant.
But these cherries were on a whole nother level.
I do wanna say because it has been so long
since I've eaten cherries,
I did eat them like a big messy bear.
I stood up when we were done and we were about to go to bed
and I had a huge red stain on my nice soul coughing tour
shirt that Rachel got me as like a Father's Day present
and my nice pair of shorts, both irreparably stained.
My fingers, my face, it was like I got lost in a patch.
Oh, I forgot how much cherry stained your fingers.
And I looked down at my hands and my hands were clean.
And I was like, how did you get your fingers stained?
Yeah, I mean, I was sort of eating it like an apple,
I guess.
I didn't, you have the skill to just pop the whole thing out
and spit the pit out. There's no reason for that. To eat it like an apple, I'm worried I didn't, you have the skill to just pop the whole thing out and spit the pit out.
There's no reason for that.
To eat it like an apple, I'm worried I'm gonna
chomp the pit and hurt my tooth or swallow it
and the cherry tree goes inside me.
That's it.
That's the truth of the matter.
And then a little tiny stomach George Washington
will have to go in there and chop it down.
Yeah.
And have to tell everyone about it.
I have a fun note on my phone that is related to this topic.
This is my small wonder, you reminded me of this.
Okay.
And it's from December 29th, 2022.
And I think I was kinda high when,
I know I was kinda high when I wrote it,
but it is related to the topic.
Do you wanna read just the whole note out loud?
You can do it as like your poetry corner voice
if you wanted to.
Oh, yeah, I kinda remember when you wrote this.
I mean, I think this exists.
Have we talked about the fact that this quarter voices?
Yeah, no, I mean, we haven't talked about it anywhere
on recorded record.
I just came up with this sick idea.
They should make a calendar that shows you
when different fruits are in season.
Parentheses, I am high.
I had to leave the last part for myself as like a- That should definitely like, when different fruits are in season, parentheses, I am high.
I had to leave the last part for myself as like a-
That should definitely,
and probably does actually exist.
Oh, absolutely.
They definitely make a calendar that tells you
when different fruits are in season.
I feel like I've seen that as an image
you can get on a Google image search.
I've never bothered doing it.
So disinterested in my,
in hunting down positive fruit.
December 22, what could you possibly?
December 29th, it was post Christmas.
What could you have been eating late December
that would have been in season?
Yeah, that's a good point.
What could I possibly, maybe we were watching a documentary
about nectarines or something.
And I was stoned out of my gore.
We were probably watching like a top chef style program.
Maybe that's what it was.
It was like a bunch of chefs sourcing like,
you know, the best quality.
And I probably said something like,
oh, those grapes look nice.
When are those in season?
And then I was like, there's no way to know.
You just gotta wait until the grocery store tells you.
Yeah, it's a little helpful sign.
Yeah, but the calendar does exist.
You don't need to send it to us, folks.
I know, I know.
That's why-
I mean, you'd send it to us.
I'm not gonna be mad at that.
If you wanna send us a fruit calendar,
I mean, we don't really have a PO box.
We don't have a way to receive it.
But like, I guess you just send us a-
I bet if you sent it to Justin McElroy,
he'd be just as happy to receive it.
I don't wanna stuff Justin's fucking PO box
with fruit calendars, man. That seems like, those things gotta be thick, man.
I can't fill up, the PO, the people at the
Huntington Post Office already get mad enough at Justin
for the stuff he accrues at their facility.
What's your big topic to discuss today?
My big topic, that's the new name of our show.
I don't know, baby, I'm tired, go easy.
Big topic.
Mine, fitting with the mood and the vibe
and just the energy of the evening
is a trip to the poetry corner.
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It's goodbye, it's a better love in the family.
You don't get enough recognition for your vocal range.
I have a certain fondness for family sitcom theme songs
of the era.
I mean, one of my karaoke standbys
whenever we were hanging out with her friends,
Justin and Bristol was busting out the growing pains,
the growing pains duet with her as a karaoke treat.
That song fucking goes down.
Yeah, I mean, one of my favorite things about Bristol
was the sincerity that she brought to performing that.
She's still around, you said was, like she is still around.
Well, we haven't done karaoke with her in a very, very long time. She's still around, you said was, like she probably, she is still around.
Well we haven't done karaoke with her
in very, very long time.
That's true.
Anyway.
So this is a poet by the name of Dorian Lox,
and she is a poet that I was not familiar with
until today when I dove into my poetry vault.
Yeah, that's real.
Like Scrooge McDuck.
Yeah, it's Rachel kind of like knocked out the floor
of one of our bathrooms,
thus connecting it to the den below.
And she said, this is now a two story vault.
And she fills it with poems and jumps in it.
I jump in.
It's a lot of square footage of the house, honestly, babe,
that we could use for other stuff.
It's tricky too, because of the paper cut danger.
Yeah. And obviously I could access all of this digitally.
You do not need it, yeah, absolutely not.
But the Scrooge McDuck call is so.
You say it feels good to have them all over.
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Mm-hmm, that is what I say.
Oh man.
This is a poet born in 1952 in Maine.
She is one of those poets that had a lot of kind of odd jobs
prior to breaking into the poetry field.
She was the manager of a gas station.
She was a maid.
She was a quote donut holer.
Yeah, that's important.
That's an important job.
Which I didn't really think about
was a discrete position.
How do you think they get in there?
Well, I assumed if you worked at an establishment
that served donuts, there wasn't a person
that was just in charge of the holes.
Do you think the elves are hole in the donuts?
I assumed it was like you did the whole process.
I didn't assume there was a one person.
Yeah, someone does the whole process.
Just the holes.
Yeah, just the holes please.
What's your job?
Holes.
Just holes.
I'm the holes one at the doughnut store.
I mean, it's not a doughnut without them.
That's true.
It's just bread.
She actually, she didn't find her way to poetry.
So she was born in 1952.
Her first book, from what I can tell,
didn't come out until 1990.
Wow, that's so much longer.
Yeah, she found her way to poetry a little bit later,
started taking kind of adult courses
at the community
college and kind of found her way to poetry.
She got her bachelor's in 1988 and then kind of found her way to poetry after that.
Fucking rad.
Yeah.
And yeah, her poems are very accessible, very positive.
I thought it would be kind of nice to share.
Hmm, maybe, I was thinking maybe two, maybe one.
I don't know, if I don't share both,
I will give the title of the other so you can access them.
Hunt it down yourself.
Just kidding, it's locked up in Rachel's vault.
Sometimes Rachel has poets write poems
that she only puts in the vault
and does not let them publish elsewhere.
And I think that that is sort of contrary to the spirit of the whole enterprise.
Okay. Again, this is Dorianne Lox. The poem is For the Sake of Strangers.
No matter what the grief, its weight, we are obliged to carry it. We rise and gather momentum, the dull strength that pushes us through
crowds. And then the young boy gives me directions so avidly. A woman holds the
glass door open, waiting patiently for my empty body to pass through. All day it
continues, each kindness reaching toward another a
stranger singing to no one as I pass on the path
trees offering their blossoms a child who lifts his almond eyes and smiles
Somehow they always find me seem even to be waiting
Determined to keep me from myself
from the thing that calls to me
as it must have once called to them,
this temptation to step off the edge
and fall weightless away from the world.
That's what I'm talking about.
Isn't that lovely?
That's the good stuff right there.
It's all good.
I mean, you only bring the like top tier shit
to this show and its audience and that's lovely.
That one really, that one hit me right in the good spot.
Right when I needed it.
She, I mean, the thing I really appreciate
about her writing is that she doesn't start super big and get small.
She starts pretty small.
Yeah.
But finds a way to kind of bring weight to it.
Sure.
She gave this interview in Writers Digest in 2008
that talks about this idea of writing what you know.
And she says, as I get older, I become more and more sure that I know absolutely nothing.
I thought I knew about love, about death, about motherhood, men.
I know nothing.
I can only guess how much less I'll know ten years from now.
But I do know my backyard, my street, the way light bounces off a car
windshield in summer, how frost glazes the roses when they are fooled into bud in February.
I don't know who we humans are or why we're here or where we're going, but I want to.
I think those eternal questions continue to be asked in spite of their mystery because of their
mystery.
I explore those questions by looking deeply into the things I do know, the visible, touchable
world.
So often young poets try to speak to those mysteries directly, and unless they happen
to be Rilke, they more often fail.
It seems to me that the world is a pathway, a conduit to the invisible, the unknowable,
and helps us translate what we feel
through the bodies we touch and that touch us.
I feel like that was such a good reminder.
You don't need to read a second poem now, by the way.
I know.
I feel like that's a freebie almost.
I know.
This is one of those interviews
that must have been done through email,
because I'm like, man, there's no way she just spit that
out of her mouth. You can't freestyle that.
Yeah, holy shit. No way. even done like through email. Cause I'm like, man, there's no way she just like spit that out of her mouth. You can't freestyle that.
Yeah, holy shit.
No way.
I do also love how she referred to the leaves
as being glazed with dew, which made me think
that she's still got a lot of that donut DNA
kind of kicking around in there.
How frost glazes the roses
when they are fooled into bud in February.
Yeah.
I mean, that's great stuff,
but I know where your head was at
and it was back in the donut mines.
For me, that has been like,
or can be what is so terrifying about writing
is that you have this big thing you wanna get to
and it is so tempting to like push your way there.
Yes.
Instead of writing in a place you feel comfortable,
and if you end up there, great.
And so this is just such a reminder of just,
just don't be afraid to stay in that space that is familiar.
Yeah, for sure.
And kind of trust that you will get something out of that.
The other poem I was going to read is called Evening.
You can find that, it's from 2019, easily enough,
if you just search for Evening in Dorian Locke's.
Her last name is spelled L-A-U-X,
but she's written six collections of poetry.
Her most recent book is a textbook she wrote
called Finger Exercises for Poets.
Oh shit.
Which I kind of love.
It's just this, it's like writing prompts
and she's like, she was a teacher for a long time
and may continue to be a teacher
in creative writing programs.
And I love the idea of like selling writing exercises
as finger exercises.
That's great.
Like kind of taking out the intimidation of it
and just being like, here is something to do
with your hands that will hopefully turn into poetry.
I love it.
But yeah, that's my trip to poetry.
How do you spell her first name?
Oh, good question.
Doryann, D-O-R-I-A-N-N-E, Vox, L-A-U-X.
Would not have gotten there, but that's wonderful and easily Googleable now.
Thank you so much.
Can I steal you away?
Yes.
["Bored Walks"]
I'd like to take you somewhere for my segment, if I may.
I would like to take you to the boardwalk.
Boardwalk.
Oh, it's fun.
Happy, happy, so fun.
Is the, I wanna talk,
I do wanna talk about the boardwalk.
I was gonna talk about the beach,
because surprisingly, the only beach representation
we really have on this show is a segment I did
a long time ago about how good it is
to go home from the beach.
Yeah.
Like how good it is to take the shower and take the nap.
I mean, it's a big topic to take on.
That's why I'm not.
I don't wanna only do the beach.
The beach, I don't want it to be though
that the only thing we've ever talked about the beach
is how good it is to leave the beach.
Cause I also like being at the beach.
I feel like we talked about that,
or at least I brought that up when you were like,
my favorite part of the beach is leaving the beach. Well, like we talked about that, or at least I brought that up when you were like, my favorite part of the beach is leaving the beach.
Well, maybe I felt that then,
but now I'm older and wiser and the father of two children.
And watching these beautiful boys do their thing,
finding them a bunch of cool looking shells.
Guys, I found some true dandies,
some gorgeous, pearlescent, purple-hued bivalves.
Just like the size of your palm.
Just fucking gargantuan.
I had to wander into some pretty atrocious foam
to get in there, some real, real wake
that was really bashing me in.
But I got what I needed.
Some gnarly.
Some gnarly chodes.
But I wanna focus on the boardwalk
because there's something about a boardwalk
that I found very transportive, very magical.
Can I tell you, I think I have maybe zero
boardwalk experience.
I mean, okay, so here's the thing.
Obviously we have been to the Wharf here in DC,
which has a boardwalk quality.
I can't remember if that brief sojourn we took
to Redondo Beach, if there was a boardwalk.
We definitely went on the Redondo Beach boardwalk
because we were desperately looking for filming locations
of the OC and we failed fucking miserably.
But we still did go on a boardwalk there.
But I will say that, yeah, my boardwalk experience is really limited.
As is mine.
The most boardwalk experience we've had
is the last couple of years, including last week,
we went on trips to Rehoboth, Rehoboth Beach,
up in Delaware.
And honestly, it was a lovely trip both times.
Super easy, and honestly, it's a lovely trip both times. Super easy, super chill, but Rehoboth is mostly known
for its boardwalk, which extends for alongside
a mile of beach, and it plays host to just a metric shit ton
of mostly small businesses that offer, you know,
the nearby beachgoers either beach essentials or candy or french fries.
And also repeated businesses, which kind of blew my mind.
It's absolutely insane the way that a boardwalk
will throw multiple businesses at you,
two to three blocks apart from each other.
It's kind of like a mall that has like two of the same store.
Like it's very similar in that it's like,
well, why would you go to the other corner
when you have one right on this corner too?
Exactly.
I don't have a ton of,
I also don't have a ton of boardwalk experience,
but every boardwalk I've been in
has like an amusement park sort of quality,
like the density of French fry restaurants
or like having a small amusement park slash carnival
slash arcade next to another arcade.
Like that doesn't happen elsewhere in nature.
That doesn't, I don't know if city planners
like make sure that stuff like that
doesn't necessarily happen, but it's absolute.
You do not see anywhere else where there are
multiple instances of the Thrasher's french fries,
making you think like you're in the matrix.
Well, if you think about it, I mean, you and I,
I mean, I'm gonna assume your experience is similar to mine,
and that, at least for me, I grew up in an area
where carnivals would pop up in like, either, you know,
fields, like where sports would take place.
Or like big parking lots, you know,
like there wasn't a full year round location
where a carnival type area would be.
Yeah, I mean we had Camden Park,
which was arguably had carnival like qualities.
This is certainly that as well.
It's just like, while you are there,
it's like everywhere you look,
there's just a big flashing signal reminding you
that like you are, this is currently recreation time.
You're in a recreational zone
and you are now invited to sort of partake in that.
It gives it like a real hallmark movie quality for me.
Like it feels very cinematic.
And I think that's just because I didn't grow up
with a lot of access to it.
Sure.
So for me, like when we are there,
I feel like I am getting access to like a movie set
about a boardwalk.
Yeah, it's strange to me still that you can live
in a town that has the ocean in it
and just go to the ocean whenever you want.
That is still a pretty alien concept to me.
The idea that you can just sort of work at a business
overlooking the ocean, you can work at a french fry stand
next to the ocean, I don't know a french fry stand next to the ocean.
I don't know, or go there while you're at the beach.
It solves a big problem of mine, the boardwalk.
It solves a problem I have with the beach,
which is that while you're on the beach,
you are so far away from everything that you need
to fulfill your basic human needs,
which means you have to fucking haul a whole racing sled to the beach with all of your belongings
in it if you wanna have any kind of extended stay,
not at the boardwalk where you can just go
and you can buy, there's not a ton of options,
but a slice of pizza.
You can use a bathroom probably.
You can do a claw machine game that has sometimes
truly,
truly reprehensible amounts of lack of claw strength.
People will also be in varying states of beach around you.
Yes, that is what I also find so charming.
And I don't wanna say this in a judgmental way,
but there is an alternate suite of etiquette expectations.
Like you are going to be tracking in sand to these
or water into these businesses
and you may or may not have a shirt on
and you might have drank a whole bunch, a hundred beers.
And I'm saying, I guess in general,
that that kind of stuff is more permissible
at a boardwalk than a non-boardwalk.
And I will say part of the reason we enjoy Rehoboth
is that it is very targeted, I think,
towards families with children.
So that may be coloring our experience of it.
There's definitely a lot, at least in our experience so far,
a lot less rowdy patrons.
It's more focused on families,
trying to get their kid the stuffed animal they want.
You could buy a Mr. Beast chocolate bar
at one candy kitchen and then step outside
and throw it and hit the other candy kitchen
with the Mr. Beast chocolate bar.
They're so close together.
But I do like it.
I find it so unique and so delightful.
Humans have been building pathways of wood for a long time.
One of the first ones that was discovered,
I do like this, was found in England.
And it's called the Sweet Track.
And it was made, they carbon dated it
specifically to 3807 BCE.
I didn't know technology could get it that fucking dialed in,
but it's called the Sweet Track.
It's like a mile long track that goes over some marshland
connecting like an island to the other side
of the marshland.
And it was found by a guy named Ray Sweet.
Can you imagine?
I'm Ray Sweet and this is my ancient boardwalk that I found.
We're gonna call it the Sweet Track.
Man.
What a cool life.
Anyway, what we now kind of recognize
is like boardwalk as entertainment zone.
In America, at least, did begin in Atlantic City.
Originally, the boardwalks there were built
for the hotels that were beachside
to keep sort of guests from tracking in as much sand.
Yeah, it makes sense.
But they were temporary installations.
They would sort of like put out this boardwalk,
you know, in the busy summertime months.
And then when they had fewer guests,
they would take it down, you know, for the winter season.
But eventually they just decided like,
hey, let's invest a little bit more in this
and make it a permanent thing,
because people use it a lot
and it helps keep our floors clean.
And the more they developed it out,
like the more businesses came down until eventually,
Atlantic City becomes as much of an attraction
as the beach that it surrounds.
That's really all I have about Borough.
I've not been to Atlantic City.
I've not been to the Jersey Shore, from what I understand.
They really have specialized in this.
You and I are not like professionals in beach.
Not at all.
I would say you definitely.
Extreme amateurs.
You definitely have a lot more beach experience than me.
And that's fucking tragic.
I know.
Well, my first beach experience was Virginia Beach
for just a very short amount of time
when I was in high school maybe.
It's a fine beach.
I don't know that it's the most sort of iconic beach.
I don't know that you're getting the quintessential,
I'm not gonna shit talk Virginia Beach here,
I'm sure we have friends.
No, I'm just saying like,
every time I experience Beach, it is novel to me.
It feels like I have traveled into a different planet.
Cool, yeah, for sure.
You have.
So the idea that there would be stores
and restaurants on that planet is extra delightful.
So, so good.
And then like little weird stuffed animal toys
and like, I don't know.
Carnival games.
It's just so charming.
I do love it.
I do love it a lot.
And so do our boys, which is very wonderful as well. We have some submissions from our friends at home.
You can email your submissions to wonderfulpodcast.gmail.com.
Keep it short, keep it tight,
and maybe we'll consider it for the show.
Like this one from Ash who says,
my small wonder is when you drop a physical book
or generally close it without putting the bookmark in it
and you manage to open it back to the exact page you were on,
it's like the universe wants you to keep reading.
Thanks. I don't know if that on. It's like the universe wants you to keep reading.
Thanks.
I don't know if that thanks was for us or the universe,
but I always just kind of assumed
like your hand oils or whatever,
like how a magician marks a card with their hand oils.
Well, I mean the little fold in the spine sometimes.
Could be the fold in the spine.
It could be the universe.
I do not wanna shit on someone's like
the vision board or whatever.
It may very well be the universe,
but I also do like that.
I don't read a ton of physical books these days.
No, not anymore.
So here's another one from Julia who says,
my small wonder is the informative pictures
on U-Haul trucks.
It's nice to learn something fascinating unexpectedly, especially when it comes
with an adorable artistic rendering of a rare salamander.
Oh my gosh, this is so true.
When I looked it up, I found out that the trucks represent states and provinces
while the trailers represent cities. Here's the page if you're interested.
There's a link to U-Haul's super graphics. that's what they call them. Yeah, that kicks ass.
I know, that does make me feel like.
I scope it every time, I clock it every time.
I know, me too.
You got to.
Just like, ooh, look at that.
Yeah.
I bet there's people who collect pictures
of those trucks, like, oh, I saw a great Nebraska one today.
I'm still missing the Omaha trailer.
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Next week, we're gonna be doing MbimBam and Taz Dadlands
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You can get tickets still at bit.ly slash McElroy Tours,
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I think that's it.
Do you have, is there any other stuff?
I'm proud of us.
You've got like merch.
We got some new stuff in the merch store.
There's a, why not a wizard pen and fuck off king pen
both designed by Evan Cruz. They're both wonderful. We's a, why not a wizard pin and fuck off king pin, both designed by Evan Cruz.
They're both wonderful.
We have a don't do a hit bumper magnet
that I actually do, I would like to put on our automobile.
I feel like a bumper magnet is so noncommittal
and it's a great message.
It is.
We got a 20 thunder drive pin, all kinds of great stuff.
And 10% of all merch proceeds this month
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All that's over at macroymerch.com.
Thank you so much.
Thank you for listening.
Join us again next week for a daytime episode.
We're gonna be back to serious business then.
Yeah, there's been a lot of travel recently.
We didn't have an episode last week because of-
We are very sorry.
Said travel, but we are trying to get
our lives back in order.
We're here now for like eight more days,
and then I am hitting the road again.
Then you are hitting the road again.
We will try to keep this ship on the rails,
the ship rails.
The ship, yes, uh-huh.
The special rails.
The rails for ships.
The rails for the ships that go in the ocean.
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