Wonderful! - Wonderful! 383: The Beef Will Go Wherever It Wants To

Episode Date: August 6, 2025

Griffin's favorite syntactically ugly comment on automation! Rachel's favorite secret house of wonders and weird stuff!Music: “Money Won’t Pay” by bo en and Augustus – https://open.spotify.com/album/7n6zRzTrGPIHt0kRvmWoyaWorld Central Kitchen: https://wck.org/

Hi, this is Rachel McElroy. Hello, this is Griffin McRoy. And this is wonderful. Thanks for listening to Wonderful. It's a podcast where we talk about things we like that's good that we're into. I just made eye contact with our neighbors. I just looked at the one. window made eye contact with our neighbors. What do I do, babe? I'm in hell now. But we're up high.

How did you do it? I looked at, I was looking past you to the outside window. Were they on the ground? No, they're in their house and they're at their own outside window and just like we happened to. There's no way. They saw you in the eye. Baby, I'm telling you, even from as far away as we are, I just made eye contact. You're not taking this as seriously as I thought you would. This is, we need to leave now we have to find a new home this thing podcast we're talking about things we like that's good that we're into and i'm gonna have it is it'll take me while to shake this off babe they think you're jo rogan christ i hope not jesus god i hope not i like to think that if you observe me voyeur style through the windows of our home even for 10 15 seconds you don't have a big cigar

that's one of is that one of his thing i think that's the thing that he does it's a big cigar? I think so. No, I don't know. I don't think I give off that. I don't think I give off big manosphere energy. Thanks for laughing. Thanks for laughing at that. You know, I bet the guys in the manosphere would have something to say about the fact that you left. I left at that when I said that. Do you have any small wonders, babe? Any fun things to talk about? A little light aparthefe. I don't see anybody over there, by the way. I'm looking at you. The other house, honey the other one oh the other house yeah the one that's immediately behind you they're gone now they were there before i promise um do you want to go first i've been playing a neat game called

the drifter and it's very much in the vein of like the old lucas arts like point and click adventure games from like the 90s i don't know if you were if you had any of those that you're house, stuff like the dig or full throttle or any of those ringing a bell? Grim Fandango. That one sounds familiar. Yeah. It's just a modern adventure game sort of modeled after that about a guy who returns to his hometown and finds himself embroiled in this mystery of abductions and he keeps coming

back to life every time he dies and it's this big mystery and it's, I don't know, it just feels genuinely a lot like a game. from that era and it's been taking me on a nice stroll through memory lane because I used to play the hell out of those. This is just a game for fun? Yeah. I like that you still get to do that, that it's not just business. It's very rare.

It's very rare. I happen to find myself between big fucking monster games right now. Yeah. In the interim, I've, you know, caught up a little bit on my backlog, but this one just seemed right up my alley. I'm glad I checked it out. Was that enough time? I love what just happened.

I love that you went to get your notes for the small wonder of the thing that you thought of the other day to talk of the small wonder. I just love it. Yeah, because I think based on the episode we recorded last. Which was like two days ago for us. Yeah, somebody gave such a perfect small wonder and I thought I need to start writing these down. Yeah. I did. And what I wrote down was when you go back to a place and your phone remembers the Wi-Fi.

That's amazing. That's amazing. I was thinking about that when we went to your brother's house. Oh, sure. I mean, every Wi-Fi knows our name there. It is a delight for me when we do a live show at a venue that we've performed at before. Oh, God. It's such a, it's cool from like a, hey, you know, I'm part of the, part of the establishment, part of the, I'm baked into

the drywall here, but also I don't have to get the Wi-Fi password from Paul, which is, you know, not the hardest thing to do in the world. Yeah, I mean, especially, you know, it's like, you know, eight, six, 12 months between visits. I will fully forget, yeah. And your phone's like, oh, oh, here we are again. Yeah, for sure. That's nice. I go first this week. Okay. I'm going to talk about a thing. I don't know if you are familiar with. I think I maybe have talked to you about it before. It is a historical artifact from the halcyon days of the internet in 2007, a blog post about none pizza with left beef. Do you know about none pizza with left beef? I think you have told me about this, actually. None pizza with left beef happened

18 years ago and you know it's a classic internet meme but also I think it had a very profound and prescient statement about how we introduce automation in our service industries

and what the ramifications of that might be and I like that it takes a little bit of time to be reflective about that stuff all the way back in 2007 none pizza with left beef is and this is according to the Wikipedia article First of all, there's a Wikipedia article about it. So you know it's a big deal.

Dun Pizza with Left Beef is, quote, a pizza delivery experiment conducted by Stephen Malaro in October 2007. So Stephen Malaro used to run a blog called The Sneeze all the way up to like 2011, which was a comedy-focused blog that I had read like a bunch of different articles from just because they would go sort of viral in their way back in the early, early aughts. He also was a writer on Big Bang Theory for 12 years, but the most prominent thing that he ever did on The Sneeze was an article titled The Great Pizza Orientation Test, in which he orders a pizza from Domino's using its brand new online, like, ordering portal. That's been around since 2007? It's interesting that that's your, that that is your reaction because, like, for my, in my,

mind when I read that, I don't know, I think about Nunn Pizza Left Beef a lot, but I guess I hadn't really thought about the fact that in 2007, bringing the internet or some website or an app into these sort of like traditional human service industry things was still pretty new because up until then you would call the place to order the pizza and you would talk to a human being. And so this experiment very much sort of celebrated the fact that you could reduce the amount of human interaction that one might use. But it's wild. Yeah, it still feels new to me, I guess is what I'm saying. Like that technology that you can get that precise in what you want still feels like a new phenomenon. That's so, yeah, I guess I don't, I don't know, I take it very much for granted and do

not think much about it. But this, I mean, this was an experiment in the truest terms, uh, exploring this bold new territory of online food ordering. So Milaro got behind the wheel of these pizza ordering tools and decided to have some fun to see how wild a pizza dominoes would let it make. And for each of the toppings on the pizza, you could choose what amount you wanted, so like light or normal or whatever. And also, how that topping would be oriented on the pizza. on the whole pie.

Do you want it to be on the whole thing? Do you want it to be just on the left, just on the right, or the fourth option, which is none, which is interesting that they've categorized that in the orientation part of the menu, because it's like, I want the sausage somewhere else. Take the sausage. Put it off the pizza. So as a control experiment, he ordered a pizza with pepperoni on the left and mushrooms on the right.

It came and the toppings were on the wrong socks. but otherwise, like, the place, you know, got the order correct. I mean. Can't you just turn the pizza around? There's a whole thing on the article about how the pizza comes presented and how the box is supposed to open. And that first appearance is the, you know, that is how you set your cardinal due north sort of compass.

Yes, you could argue semantics on that. The bigger thing that happens is that he orders a second pizza. For this pizza, he goes down to the same. the list of every single topping, including cheese and sauce and sets the orientation to none, allowing the only thing to be on the pizza, to be beef on the left side of the pizza only. So he orders this, and the menu lets him do it, and it goes through. So at this point, it should just be loose beef, right? Like there's no dough?

Well, the dough is there. The dough is there. The dough is there. Okay. But what you get is none pizza with left beef. Yes, I have seen this picture. So it is basically a pizza crust that has been cooked and quartered. And then exactly 14 beef nuggets sort of arranged in a random constellation.

Which could be due to travel. That is what he allows for in the article. This is a quote, it was close. But the whole pizza was so small and light, it must have shifted during delivery. And the little beef pellets didn't have any sauce or cheese to hang on. to. So a few lost their footing from the left half. So yes, there was a, there was obviously some issues. But the fact of the matter is that the computer let Nunn Pizza with Left Beef go through, go through the system and gave it the old rubber stamp. And then someone had to make that.

And that's just, I don't know, it's so astonishing to me. I mean, the phrase Nunn Pizza with Left beef is so genuinely phonetically pleasant for me. Like it's it is like syntactically ugly in a way that like I just kind of keep coming back to. You don't hear things described as none pizza with left beef. And so that's like it always feels exciting when you feel like I'm hearing something new that no one's ever said before. But it's also like sociologically thinking a fascinating sort of thing because you could not order that pizza from a human. You simply couldn't do it. There is not a, you could not convince me there's a human being alive that you could go to and they'd be like, okay, how much cheese do you want on your pizza? And you'd say none, none sauce, none pepperoni, none mushrooms, go down the list. And then only put sausage on the left side. There's not a human being that would let that go through. So this only happened because it was a computer who had been brought in as a sort of intermediary force. I think it's interesting that it distinguishes between left and right because it is it is not uncommon to do half right like i remember that as a young

person of like let's do half this and half that right and you know that like your group is small enough that um that's fine splitting a pizza is reasonable um but specifying left and right is a little bit wild it is extremely wild in an era of like you know a lot of dietary restrictions it does not seem that crazy to me that people would get precise enough to leave out things like sauce and cheese. This is what I'm saying. You could absolutely order a pizza with only beef on the left side. You could absolutely order a pizza that didn't have sauce or cheese on it if that is where your dietary restrictions lead you. You could not do both. I don't think a human being would say, okay, so no sauce, no cheese, no other toppings, and you want beef on the left side.

there's not a they would say obviously well that won't work like that's not the beef's gonna go all higgledy-pigley yeah okay they would try to stop you at the very least and say like you sure you don't want some sort of maybe I could give you the beef in a bowl and you could like it's so unfathomable it can't be done and like this was in 2007 which was a long time before like McDonald's uh you know changed and by and also like a lot of other fast food places uh changed it so that you place your orders on like a touchscreen when you get there and very quickly people realize like you can get 150 pickles

on your hamburger if you do this shit therefore kind of like reinforcing like there's stuff you can ask a computer to do for you that a human being would not do for you and first of all I'm sure it's probably pretty annoying

in this instance for like a McDonald's employee to have to make a hamburger with all this stuff in the specific instance of none pizza with left beef I guarantee you that was the easiest pizza that particular chef had ever made in their entire pizza making career. I bet that they celebrated the opportunity to cook a non-peza with left beef because you could do it in basically three swift movements. I'm surprised that, I mean, in all of this discovery, has nobody ever sat down with a person

that created that pizza? Yeah, no. I mean, there's so in the, you know, however many years, it's, it's been 18 years since then. Did somebody come forward and say I made that pizza? Oh, I don't know who made the pizza. That's what I'm asking. Oh, no, I don't know if that, there have been a lot of articles written about this. It seems like you could trace it back, right?

Yes. If he knew what location and when he placed the order, it seemed like you could find that person. And I would love to hear their perspective. It's entirely possible that that information is out there. And to find out if from their viewpoint that is the craziest pizza they've ever made or if, in fact, there is another crazier one. Now, I will say on the downside of none pizza. with left beef. It probably did spawn a lot of copycat jokesters out there who then probably gave a lot of very

difficult times. Why does it have been pepperoni? Do you think they would have shimmied around quite as much? None pizza with left pepperoni, it does not hit nearly as hard as none pizza with left beef. None pizza with left beef. Well, true. I mean, I think beef on a pizza is still kind of like I get it and I know that people do it. It feels less common. Yeah. I'm wondering, I mean, I think if you had pepperonies, especially little Cuppies, little Cuppie Boys, they would not move around a whole lot. There would be a sort of vacuum-esque. They kind of sit in their own.

And they would suction force, fuse themselves to the crust, yeah, for sure. What if it had been vegetables, too? It's just, you know. That would have been too gross. What's kind of beautiful about Nunn Pizza with Left Beef is there's not, if you swiped those 14 beef nuggets off of the pizza, it would be their existence, there would be no trace of them. them whatsoever. So, so, uh, separated is the pizza and the, you have to, I would encourage our listeners that have not seen this picture.

You have to go look at it because you might be picturing, for example, like a, like a, like a, like a taco meat situation. It is not that. It is 14 just nugs. You can, you can very clearly count to these chunks. Yeah. Sorry. Just saying that.

No, babe. Celebrate it. There's so. much about none pizza with left beef that resonates with me and I'm sure with you now 18 years later we talk about it a lot because of Justin's kids yes we do it created a shorthand for fussy like online ordering because Justin's daughters have similarly crazy pizza orders yes where like one of them just wants cheese and no sauce and the other one wants like sauce and toppings but no cheese right um

So what they basically want is not pizza. Well, I mean, it is. And this is obviously such an edge case in that it was not a dietary or even a preferential choice. This was, I want to push the limits of this thing to see if there are any guardrails on this robot that a human, a rational human being would naturally kind of put up there. It feels like a school science fair experiment. Like, it seems like you can see the little cardboard display set up in the school gym. Yes. And there's pictures of like these different tests.

Yes. And I'm. That's why it's a bit. I guess that's why Wikipedia calls it a pizza delivery experiment. Yeah. But there is like, I don't know, there is a social boundary, a reason boundary here that a person would identify and utilize that I do not think would be as easy for a. a, you know, AI who you teach to handle pizza orders would necessarily clock. I don't know.

I don't know. You're saying that. But I feel like there is a certain amount, like having worked, and I know you have, too. Like, if you were a TCBY and somebody came in and said, I just want toppings in a cup. We would lose so much money. And. Are they armed? Do they have a big knife or something?

And then just put like a teaspoon of yogurt in there. Would you say like, well, here are the reasons in which, you know, and actually what you should probably, or would you just do it? Because, I mean, who are you to like stand in their way? I was extremely. Do you remember when I lied to the guys who were robbing my GameStop because I didn't want them to steal RPS3? You're an incredible employee. I'm an incredible employee, a loyal and dedicated. employee. I'm saying, but in that case, your loyalty was to the establishment. But what you're

describing is more of a loyalty to the customer and saying, like, what you're asking for does not make sense. I could not give them a cup of toppings and keep my job. That would, because they're so, that would be a huge loss. They're saying I will pay for it. This is like no pizza left situation of like, I'm going to pay for this like it's a regular pizza. Yeah. I'm going to pay for this like it's a frozen yogurt with seven toppings. But I'm saying that the, if I gave somebody a cup of jimmies and they walked off with that cup of jimmies, it may have cost him two bucks for the usual yogurt thing, but I just gave them $20 of jimmies. Do you know what I mean? The toppings are worth their more than just the yogurt or the cream. Okay. So this example doesn't work. This

example doesn't work. Obviously. I guess I'm saying like a human being, I could see just letting that slide just as much as like whoever because it's like, you know, you're in a position where you're like, what do I care? Right. Whether a human would or wouldn't do that is obviously unknowable but there is a I don't know it I am pretty fascinated in uh I guess this topic of how people talk to people versus how people talk to machines no I see what you're saying and I must be clear here I'm not saying that from a machines have souls and must be like that's not my fucking vibe even a little bit at all but I do think it's interesting and this is so far ahead of like a lot of those conversations, this is 17, 18 years before, like a lot of that stuff

was sort of happening. And I don't know. I find it very fun that there is this very silly, very funny thing that was very ahead of its time a little bit. Yeah, for sure. Has stuck with so many people for so long. Yeah. I mean, I guess ultimately I just, I still have a lot of questions all these years later. Yeah. And the left and right thing is really what still puzzles me. Yeah. And I guess I would still like to know more. Okay. Well, this is not the venue for that. But maybe after the show, during our time of...

Maybe I'll scour and see if like 99% invisible. I bet you. A real podcast. Can I steal you away? Yeah. Okay. You want to hear my thing? I do.

Okay, I'm just excited to get in here before you did. Oh, boy. This is something we have experienced together, and I am just happy that I get to bring this topic before you've got a chance to do it. Wow, okay. And that is The Mansion on O Street. The Mansion on O Street is really, really something else. Or sometimes called the O Street Museum, the O Museum and the Mansion. There's a lot of different names for it.

Big shout out to Hoops and Sid and the girls for giving us the heads up about this place. Can I tell you, though, I had seen, I had seen this on lists for D.C. Oh, like things to do? Yeah. Oh, that's interesting. It kept coming up because I kept looking for things for us to do. And I was concerned that our kids were too young. Yeah.

Because the way they presented, it sounds like it is a tour situation in which you are. And maybe this does exist, and that's just not the, like, ticket that we bought. but that you are personally guided and I thought our kids are going to get antsy it looked like there was a lot of breakable stuff and I just thought like I think our kids are too young to appreciate this but I'd had my eye on this ever since we moved here

and it just kind of took them saying like we're going to do this that I was like all right let's go for it why don't you so I had never heard of this thing so can you give us some background yes so this is in Northwest D.C. it is actually and this is something I didn't know it is made up of five interconnected townhouses and within these townhouses there are more than 100 rooms with more than 70 secret doors

and passageways they really hit that very very hard yes in all the marketing materials and folks let me tell you does not disappoint there's a lot of fucking secret doors in this place and and and I mean, it has gone, there's, there's a lot you can learn just by going. The tickets are like $30. You go and you can sit down and watch a video and they tell you kind of the various, like, different historical points of interest, like through the timeline of this building. But, I mean, one of the most remarkable things is that everything in all of these rooms is for sale. Yes.

I was so curious. Like, a lot of the rooms are themed. there are pieces of art and like housewares and toys and electronics all over every surface in in each of these rooms and you can bring those down to the front and purchase them. So awesome. Yeah. Just at any point during your visit. The building itself was originally designed in 1892 by Edward Clark, who was an architect. for the U.S. Capitol to be a home for himself and his two brothers.

And over the next century, the mansion served many purposes, including a place to say for FBI director J. Edgar Hoover. Wasn't there a vice president who stayed there for a minute? Or am I thinking of J. Edgar Hoover? I mean, so there's just kind of endless historical figures that have lived in this building. It's possible that just got left off of my list. I will say the house, kind of as we know it today, the building was bought in 1980 by Reverend H.H. Leonard's in the hopes to provide a place where clients could come to learn from one another and foster the development of diversity, the creative process, and the human spirit. And she is the one that created the five-story annex and converted the space into a hotel. Yes.

And brought in donated... Oh, God, I forgot. You can actually stay there. And brought in donated pieces to kind of furnish the spot. I feel like you haven't dropped the important piece of information here, which is that this, it was all sort of decorated with the touch of a madman. Yes. So there is, for example, a John Lennon suite. There is a two-story log cabin room.

There is a secret wine cellar. There are over 50 signature guitars. A couple of anime babe rooms, like a couple, where you walk in and it's just like a bunch of busts that you might see at like a comic book shop. There's a cherry blossom room. There's a Star Wars toilet. Like say any combination of like a famous person or media franchise and then a name of a room in a house and it's going to have it in there somewhere, probably. I guess so, and this is as of 2022, to spend the entire night exploring the mansion's prices start at $475. But every year the mansion has continued a long-running tradition of providing, on average, over 850 free room nights a year to support their artists and heroes and residence program.

A lot of this is connected to kind of one of their most famous guests, which is Mrs. Rosa Parks. In 1994, Mrs. Parks had been robbed and beaten up outside of her Detroit home, and she reached out to one of her friends who happened to be a board member at the museum, and she ended up spending time living at the mansion under the Heroes and Residence program. Do you think she was there at the same time as Prince? oh man i don't know because prince also had a if memory serves quite a long residency um but it says that while she was there she hosted sunday gospel brunch uh she hosted an anniversary

event for the montgomery bus boycott held negotiations for her participation in bill clinton state of the union address and uh yeah to this day they still have a mrs rosa park's room the owner or the person I mentioned, Reverend H.H. Leonard's wrote a book about Rosa Parks's life and just her connection with Rosa Parks while she lived at the house. It's, I mean, it's incredible spot. They have events all year long. They have a New Year's Eve event. They're open on Christmas Eve. They're open on Thanksgiving. They're open like 9 a.m. to 9 p.m. every day. It's incredible. I mean, you will walk into a room.

Sometimes it's very obvious where the secret doors are. It will just be like a bookcase and you will just kind of very easily swing it open. I was reading. There were a couple, though, that were pretty well concealed that felt like, oh, I'm about to break some shit. And you pull and you're like, oh, no, there's another room. Cool. Yeah, I read an article that says, each visit promises access to at least 60 rooms and 32 concealed passages. which rooms and which secret doors change daily

as we have 112 rooms and nearly 90 secret doors. Discovery three secret doors makes you an above-average sleuth. That's fine. The thing I can't figure out, some of the rooms that they offer that you can stay in, I wonder what, I guess they just lock those doors when somebody's staying in there. Yeah, maybe.

So, like, for example, you can stay in the log cabin suite, but when we were there, we got to see it. Yeah, we got to go in the log cabin suite. We also went in what was called the Halloween, room which was filled with um there wasn't like a bed in there though right no there was no bed in there it was a dark door behind one of these secret doorways uh and you would walk in and it had a little side room like a coat closet and that was filled with um like spirit Halloween style horror animatronics like that detect you with an IR sensor and then you know the pumpkin man laughs or

whatever and then that emptied out into an even bigger room filled with um like 50 to 60 more of these animatronic Halloween machines. Room was too scary for any of our children to go in. Way too scary. And like just even the idea of the room was a focus. There is a package you can purchase called the Secure Harbor package where you and 25 other guests can have 90 rooms and an elevator all to yourself for $10,000 a night. Okay. Well, that's a little.

That is a little rich for my blood. It's just cool. It's like if there was an antique store where the antique store had different rooms and those rooms were based around the antiques that were within them. And you could just buy whatever the fuck you wanted. Yeah. It's overwhelming. I will say each room is very full in a way that suggests that not a lot of people come in and purchase things. Yeah, no.

It's, and some of it is because the items are priced. pretty high. We found like an Elvis room, I think, at the bottom. Like, there are a lot of rooms that have, like, memorabilia from very, like, famous, like, collectible figures. Yes. And it's not imaginable that you would leave necessarily with one of their items. It's one of the weirdest places I've ever been.

Yeah. And it's cool. I don't know. I feel about it the same way I feel about like a meow wolf or something where it's like it's just cool to be surrounded by really weird stuff. Yeah. And have the freedom to kind of go about and poke at what you so choose. And also like Bart Simpson's fucking everywhere. Just like every third room has Bart Simpson action figure. Gus, I don't think really understood what was going on because what happened was we drove there and we met Justin and Sydney

and the girls. And later on, Gus was talking about how he wanted to go to normal hunting And I realized that he had thought maybe that we had gone to West Virginia earlier when we had been in the O Street Mansion. Made pretty good time, I would say. In the future, he would prefer to go to regular. Regular Huntington, not the Huntington that's a five-story townhouse filled with a bunch of wild antiques. Yeah. Yeah, I don't blame. I think I, if only we could do both at the same time.

If only the mansion on O Street was in regular hunting. I would definitely like, like, next time we have visitors and have the time, I would definitely like to bring people there again. It's a fun, it's a fun poke around. Yeah. Do you want to know what our friends at home are talking about? Yes. How about this one from Frankie who says, I'm a writer, and my small wonder is the word count display on my writing document. It's so satisfying to hit a goal every time I write that I can always keep an eye on.

I just reached 26,000 words on my story, and I had to tell everyone I know just because, seeing the number in the box felt so rewarding. Wow. I like that a lot. I don't know that I've ever written that much. I mean, cumulatively. Well, certain. On one project, I don't think so.

Yeah. I mean, I do love a word count. I do also love, like, expanding the margins of a term paper to the point where it looks like a golden book in terms of the curning just so you can squeeze an extra page or two out of whatever. I will say my job tends to be more as a grant writer of like taking 700 words and turning them into 250. Right. And that is kind of where I get my thrills. Yeah, sure. Hey, man, me too.

Back when I was on Twitter and Twitter imposed those limits. Oh, man, the amount of succinct sort of thought evoking you had to do was a fun challenge. Sorry, that plant is sticky for a reason I don't quite understand. I've been watering it. If anyone knows why a plant would get sticky on the leaves, hit me up. It probably means something. Anyway, here's one from Spencer who says, Just wanted to let you know that there is, in fact, a person driving around my town in New Zealand with the Vanity License Plate Poop Doctor.

Now, that's cool. Did you see in our Facebook group a lot of people posted Virginia license plates? No, I didn't. There's somebody that posted there was a license plate. plate like a charitable license plate that said kids first at the bottom and somebody had gotten the vanity tag that said eat the kids first wow that's Virginia keep it up um poop doctor's cool I don't think it's as cool as Dr. Poop do you know what I mean like this to me I don't know it feels like two different things like the name is this makes me wonder if it had been none pizza right

beef if you would feel differently about it yeah I would I don't think none pizza right beef is as funny as none pizza with left you are kind of a poet in your own way well i guess so but your precise feelings about language um right can mean too many things and but i suppose left can too huh i don't know i just think non pizza with left beef hits so good i wouldn't change so you prefer dr poop i prefer dr poop to poop doctor doctor yeah because poop in that term is modifying doctor as opposed to doctor modifying poop Do you know what I mean? Huh.

I hope so. I don't really know what I mean. I'll have to think about it. Thank you so much for listening. Thanks to Bowen and Augustus for the use for a theme song. Money won't pay. You can find a link to that in the episode description. I've been listening to more Bowen music and on Spotify.

Henry was playing a game that Bowen did the soundtrack for. It's all really, really, really great music. And obviously, Augustus and Kara Carabonito is all fucking great stuff. too. Anyway, thanks for letting us use that song. And thanks to Maximum Fun for having us on the network. We do have some new merch up in the merch store right now over at mackleroymerch.com. It's August. It's August. And that means that we have some stuff back in stock. Most notably, I will say the flaming, raging, poisoning tea of doom is back in stock. By popular demand. I love this tea. Did we go through ours? We fucking tore through ours. We need more.

Can you? I'll do my thing. I'll do my thing. I'll work my magic. Thank you. Yeah, no, it's really very, very, very good tea. And that's over at Macroymerge.com, as well as a few other things. We've got some live shows from Bim Bam and Taz coming up very soon. We're going to be in Atlanta during DragonCon. We're coming to Utah and Texas and a couple other places later this year. Bit.ly slash Macroy Tours is where you can go for ticket links and more information. And one more time, I'm writing a choose your own adventure book comes out next year.

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You are a person. You can choose which side. And you choose which side. The beef goes on. Yes. I mean, no, because nature takes its course no matter what. The pizza, the beef will go

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