Wonderful! - Wonderful! 394: Chit Chat Pit Pat

Episode Date: November 5, 2025

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Hi, this is Rachel McElroy. Hi, this is Griffin McElroy. This is wonderful. Welcome to Wonderful. It's a podcast where we talk about things we like that's good that we're into. I had cool voice surgery since the last episode. I went into the doctor. I said, fatten my cords.

He said, what? I said, fatten him so it gets deep and cool. Fatten my cords. So he did. He went in there. He made each one thick, big, thick sinewy. So you can really hear him slap together. I mean, listeners of the show have heard this Griffin before.

That was when I was sick. Right now, I'm not sick. I am the picture of health. But I like so much how I sound when I'm sick, because I can get in that, like, baby back like really down in the dirt so I guess just like

how do you feel about it I didn't really can usually when we have big surgical procedures we'd like talk to each other about it first but this was I wanted it to be a surprise for our anniversary I mean I appreciate that the recovery time was zero it was zero recovery yeah

but I'm tough I was like no anesthesia I said I went in there I said fatten my cords and raw docket And the doctor didn't really know like what any of that meant. I said, I got to get home in time to play with my kids and my wife and nobody can know about it. Yeah, that's exactly right. So this is me now.

This is just how it's going to sound from now. Okay. Just kidding. You are sick. I am a little sick. This is a show where we talk about things we like that's good that we are into. And I don't know, man. We're on that, we're on that Christmas creep now.

Are we? Can we not be? You don't want to be? Can we get off the creep? We don't have to be on the creep if you don't want. I'm not ready. I'm not ready. Yeah, no, I mean, no one's really ready.

It's a busy time of year for families. Do you have any small wonders? Can you imagine being a radio DJ? Like, did you ever think about if you were to pursue your dad's line of work? Sure. The ability to just chit-chat for hours at a time. about things that you really had no investment in personally. I mean, yes, I went to Broadcast Journalism School and like-

Did you guys practice your patter? Yeah, I mean, you kind of have to. Like, that's a nice new blazer, Gene. There's a whole like radio track, right? There was, uh, I mean, when I was going to school, it was when, like, internet journalism was a new, like, track that wasn't even really formalized. You couldn't really major in it. Yeah.

So it was broadcast, print, or radio, worth of three. I think that's what it was like when I went to school to. And you had to do a little bit of... We had magazine. Oh, that's interesting. There was probably a periodical sort of like branch of the print side. But I was broadcast and... But you had to do it all, right?

So I did a radio show. I produced a radio news show. I did pieces for a radio news show. And like, yeah, obviously that was like... thing I thought about just because of just my chit chat my pit pat as we call it in the radio business um would they pull you aside and say hey griffin great out there super professional yeah like really informed right your chit chat pit pat though it felt like if you wanted to really focus on chit chat pit pat you had to be a like sports commentator and there were there was like

four positions for that and also I didn't like most sports or know anything about them so I ended up where I ended up. Was it a mistake? Yes. I would say no. Do you have a small wonder though? Trying to change the subject on me. Get me all distracted. I immediately thought of something and then I'm trying to back away from it, but I think I'm just going to lean into it. Oh boy. And that is that you can buy hard boiled eggs. You can just get them. You don't have to get eggs and hard boil them yourself. You can just get hard boiled eggs. There's a thing. For those of you that have tried to hardboil your own eggs, you know what I'm talking about. But if you try and hardboil an egg that is too new, it is very difficult to get the peel off.

And so you have to wait to a certain point in the egg's life cycle to really have a successful hardboil experience. And then it takes some time, not a lot of time, but some time. And I want my hardboiled eggs when I want them, which is something that I told you immediately when we first started dating. You really did. I have a hard time with hard-boiled eggs and seeing you making hard-boiled eggs, your little snack without thinking of the arrested development where George Michael is describing how Anne puts it in her mouth and then squirts a little packet of mayonnaise in

there. It's not a snack that you want to showcase, really, to a friend or a loved one. Uh-uh. Um, but, uh, occasionally I will buy myself a little bag of hard boiled eggs and I feel like it is the height of luxury. Yeah. No, I mean, I, I, I like an egg. I like a deviled egg. I don't really fuck with a hard boiled egg that often, but I probably could.

Like, I like the idea, right? Well, you got to put like a little chilula on it. You got to put some stuff on it. Some salt and pepper. Spices. Sex it up. Physical 100's back and we've only watched the first episode of it. Um, it's called Physical.

Asia, and it is a contest. They have eight teams, I believe, of six different athletes from different countries around Asia and Australia. There's an Australian team in there as well. The Korean team has passed competitors from Physical 100, past seasons of Physical 100. The Japanese team, I think, has two people from Final Draft, which was like that kind of like physical 100 analog that was like all retired athletes including i think his name is etoy he's a baseball player who was like our favorite dude yeah um it also has uh manny packial who is uh not a great dude uh but you know another sort of recognized but like in in a show of people from different countries in very specialized sports it is wild to recognize someone yeah for sure and and uh we

end of the first episode kind of sets up the beginning of the first challenge and guys just the production value is like fucking off the chains through the roof insane so cinematic yeah the first trial the first quest they call them is like a king of the hill get on top of these four like cylinders on top of this mountain of sand and there's this low hanging fake sun in the room that's like illuminating everything so when they all kind of crashed together you just see their silhouettes and it's so cinematic and so fucking lit I'm very very excited to uh to watch more of it our cup runneth over a bit between that and survivor and the love is blind reunion and watching the blues lose on our television uh every night six game we never finish only murders we still

have that still watching only murders but you got it how do you you find the time when you got to watch the blues lose every other night. Yeah, and you only have two hours before bedtime. You have two hours before bedtime. It takes the blues about two hours to lose. Last night it took the blues like almost three hours to lose. And it's like, come on, guys, I got places to be. Yeah. Tough time. Tough time out there for Blues Nation. Thomas and neighbors both injured. Not loving that. Not loving a six game losing streak. Not loving that either. but you know you got to watch them when they're not doing so great so that it feels good when they do do great well and they have to break your heart yeah to unbreak it sure they got to unbreak my heart

that is what they say that is what they said tony braxton is that who saying unbreak my heart i was not prepared with an answer to that question well now i have to look it up unbreak my heart say you love Tony Braxton. Fuck yes. Still got it. Today I would like to talk to everyone. My segment, I go first this week. I'm going to talk about a game series that's been dormant for a little while, but that I have

always really, really loved and have been thinking about a lot lately as I've been getting into like retro game handheld stuff. Are you familiar at all, Rachel, with Professor Layton, Professor Layton in his series of puzzle games? No. Okay. So I didn't think you had. any familiarity with Layton, but I do think you would dig it because it is like the most

like talented and gifted class kids ass game ever. It is about Professor Layton, who is an archaeologist and a professor, and also kind of a detective, and he has a little kid's sidekick named Luke Triton. He's basically Indiana Jones. If Indiana Jones was like British and super buttoned up and like extremely polite. And, in each game in the series, Layton and Luke traveled to some location, usually like a town or village where everything is just kind of weird,

and they solve some big grand mystery that unfolds over the course of the game, and while they do that, you are also solving, like, over a hundred brain teasers. Like true, classic, what was the name of those things? They would sell them at Cracker Barrel, and they were like long sort of car,

stock thing and they would have just like a bunch of brain teasers on them I know what you're talking about it's basically like that in video game form with this like larger wrapper of like you're solving a mystery about some strange locale as you go so you go to these strange locations you meet all the inhabitants uh you like sort of click around the village to like move between different locations you can like click on little things that look weird and find hint coins that you can use to like help you out with the different brain teasers as you go but the Brain teachers are really, really great. They run the gamut between, like, you know, language puzzles, math puzzles, geometry,

just old-fashioned riddles and, like, everything in between. Are you playing this, like, on your phone? So the original game came out on the Nintendo DS, which was the dual screen handheld, which was great because you'd have, like, you know, a little writing area for you to write your answers, and then the top screen would have, like, the puzzle and stuff on it. But then they were adapted. You can play, I think, most of them on your phone. phone. They've come out to iOS. And they're really, really just super charming, really lovely

little games that are just kind of challenge you to pick up and play a few little brain teasers and then you can put it back down just as easily. All the puzzles were designed by a Japanese psychologist named Akira Tago, who was a professor himself and an author of a series of puzzle compilation books in Japan called Atama No Taiso, which translates to head gymnastics, which is very good. He sounds like a very interesting dude. He passed away in 2016, which is about when the Professor Layton games stopped coming out. But the games were all designed by, they were all created by one of my favorite Japanese game developers called Level 5, which has made entries in like a bunch of my favorite RPG, like franchises like Dragon Quest

and Dark Cloud. But Professor Lake is really singular because it first of all is like of this genre that the series more or less created like puzzle brain teaser puzzle mystery games was not necessarily a thing before the the latean series came out they have a really distinct art style that i actually learned the name of for this segment i'm not going to do a good job of saying it but uh ligny clair or clear line uh which was a style that was developed by Erge, a Belgian comic strip artist who created Tintin. So if you've seen Tintin or anything of Tintin, you kind of know the style of the Professor Layton games, very flat colors, not a lot of like contrast or like hatching, very, very clear

lines as the name would suggest. It looks, it looks really, really nice. And like old Nintendo DS games, the hardware wasn't like strong enough to have like cut scenes and like a lot of stuff that you would see. like PC games or, you know, Xbox games or whatever. But these latent games would have these, like, animated cutscenes that look like out of a French, like, animated film. The soundtracks for these games are all really, really unique.

They feature a lot of French and Spanish kind of influences, a lot of upbeat waltzes and tangos with, like, accordions and bandions. How many of these games are there? I believe there have been eight. Okay. The first three are kind of like a trilogy set that all came out on DS. And then the next three, I believe, came out on the 3DS, which were prequels showing you how, like, Professor Leighton and Luke, like, met and got into the, like, brain teaser puzzle-solving business. Is this like a back-to-the-future, like, old man, young boy situation?

No, they, well, kind of, kind of. I mean, it's more, I mean, it's sort of like Sherlock and Watson. But Watson is like a little boy, right? And it's really, it's, Professor Leighton is such a great character. He's a really, really great character because he is like, he spends all these games like tutoring Luke in the ways of like being a puzzle solver and like in the ways of critical thinking. And shit will happen where like they'll come across a dead body and they'll be like, oh my God, Professor, what is that? And Leighton will be like, this reminds me of a puzzle. And then you have to do a break teaser.

But he's also like... a gentleman and he spends a lot of the games like teaching luke how to be gentlemanly and how to how to like but then like something will happen and shit will pop off and now professor layton has to like get into a fencing duel with like a with like a Dracula or something and it's like oh shit okay this kind of makes sense uh he's just a really great character because he is so like straight laced and uh you know pinkies up tea sipping sort of uh intellectual But then it's like you don't doubt that he's very good at fencing because he's a very smart, fancy man. So of course he would be good at fencing at Dracula.

That makes sense to me. I just really love these games. There have been so many of them and so many of them are old enough now that I can go back to them and play them. And I won't remember a single one of the brain teasers, which is really satisfying. Because there's something like 120 to like 150 brain teasers in each game. And there's been a lot of them. You haven't really said what you mean by brain teasers. Brain teaser is, I mean, okay, so it can be anything from, um...

Is it like a word problem? There will be word problems. There will be mazes. There will be untangle these strings, right, to see like who goes with what. Or, um, uh, there's a family with five kids. This one is twice as old as this one, who's seven years older than... Okay, that's what I was picturing. This guy lives in a blue house, but he also owns a lawnmower, but he doesn't live next

to somebody in a yellow house. I mean, literally anything, right? There's 120 brain teasers in the first game. So, like, it's every imaginable discipline of puzzle or riddle that you could possibly think of. And it is because they are so varied that, like, I don't know, you will hit ones that are like, like, I suck shit at spatial reasoning puzzles. So ones where it's like, here's half a pyramid and some blocks are missing. How many blocks would you need to complete the pyramid? And it really, really does feel like you are taking not an SAT test necessarily, but like maybe a placement.

And if you get it wrong, what happens? So you get a score for how you solve each puzzle. The scores are called pikarots. And it's like purely a like, I mean, inconsequential score thing. So if you get the puzzle wrong, you lose how many pickerots you earn for getting the puzzle correct the first time. But I don't think there's any like, you don't get like the good ending. If you get like enough pickerots, it's just like, again, a way to challenge and punish overachievers who got placed in talented and gifted classes in school and had to feel this need, this compulsion to get everything right. I just, I really, really love this series.

There's really nothing else quite like it out there. The last, the first Professor Leighton game came out in 2007. The last one came out in 2017. So it's been a minute since a new late. game has come out. Again, I think probably some of that is because the, what they called the puzzle master, Akira Tago passed away in 2016. But there is a new one coming out on Switch 2 next year called Professor Layton and the New World of Steam, which I'm going to be all over. But I just really like these games. And I really think if you've never played them,

they are on your phone now. And they are so charming and so like, I don't know, it's very compelling to like pick up a puzzle and have to finish it. Um, and, uh, there's, there's a lot of them out there. So, uh, that's Professor Layton. Can I steal you away? Yes. Great. What are you discussing today? Okay. My thing this week, uh, is a thing that we may have to explain to some of our listeners depending on their age. Um, But that's not anything new for us. No. And it is DVD extras.

Oh, my God. Yeah, dude. I was thinking about this the other day because you were talking about Wayne's World. Yes. Then we went and watched Wayne's World. And I was thinking... Fucking slaps, by the way. Still so good.

Good call us. It's still very good. Really, really, really rips ass. So funny. And I was talking to you about how the DVD had this, like, cool menu where it was set up like, another thing that we might have to explain. But, like, the guide is on, like, a cable television where you can, like, scroll through the listing of channels and what's on at what time.

Right. But they would list the, like, extras that way. And there used to be, with any DVD that came out, just all of these little extra features, usually, like, in the style or art of the film itself. Yeah. So there would be, like, audio commentary, which would be, like, the director or different actors kind of talking about the film as it was playing in the background and that's still definitely like if you rent a movie if you buy a movie on like your apple tv like you can

most of the time i don't think most of the time well i guess it depends on the flick but yeah um but yeah and then um you know just just other other little things sometimes there'd be like a making of what they would call like a featureette which would be like a 20 minute thing and it's itself that was just all about like making the movie and that yeah DVD and Blu-ray that used to be like a thing that would be it would kind of motivate you to go out and get it because if you really like particularly like an old movie you would go like look at the back and see like okay well can I see Tom Hanks talk about Castaway while I'm watching Castaway for sure um I always used to love that stuff oh my god me too the amount of work it's such a short lived period in like

cinema history where DVDs were there so much work went into the DVD menus to like make it I don't know design it to look kind of like in world sometimes or to like hide little things yeah fill fill it out the Simpsons seasons used to have like Easter eggs where if you like would click on the right thing or do the right sequence you could find like additional content yeah I remember the Lost in Space DVD had a bunch of those that was I was I think the first DVD I ever bought was for the Lost in Space movie with Matt LeBlanc and Lacey Chabair. But I do remember, and your dad probably did this too, but there was this thing of like my dad being like, you know, I got X DVD, do you want to watch the director's commentary tonight? And we would just sit quietly while the silent film like played and we listened to like directors be like, yeah, so for this one, originally we were going to go with a green shirt but we noticed that the character

in the time period would not have had a green shirt and I was like, tell me more. I never, I never, the first time I can remember watching commentary through the whole like runtime of a DVD

was the Goonies because they got the Goonies cast back together to like talk about and it was I mean really, really really fucking illuminating stuff at one point

Sean Astin had to leave in the middle of the commentary to go do Lord of the Rings stuff. And so I think it was Corey Feldman got out a little Samwise Gamgey action figure he had brought with him to put up in Sean Astin's place. It's really, really, really good, like next level good shit. But I didn't really have the patience or mostly interest to like sit through and not really watch a movie while I let the cast and director sort of talk about it. There are some kind of like famous commentaries. Not all of these are ones I'm familiar with, but so, for example, with Spinal Tap, they got Harry Shearer, Christopher Guess, Michael McKeehan to do the commentary. And they start doing the commentary as their characters while watching the film. God, that's good. Apparently when they did the commentary for Tropic Thunder, Robert Downey Jr., like slid into his character. What about, I'm curious, I would actually love to.

do the waiting for guffman commentary if if such a thing exists yeah i'm not i i'm not sure christopher guessed you know like he's not he's not a laugh a minute usually when he's like giving interviews and talk you know like yeah but i'm still like i don't know that movie has is such a a a big part of the canon of my like theater experience growing up yeah i don't know i've never really learned a whole lot about the making of it. One of the more famous ones, as I was researching this, is Armageddon. It's, like, notorious because Ben Affleck was invited, and he just, like, pokes holes in the film throughout. Like, the plot?

Yeah, like, suggest that he asked all these questions. Like, why would they get a bunch of drillers? Like, why would drillers be more qualified to take out it out? You fucking dummy. It's because it's easier to teach. drillers to be astronauts than to teach astronauts to be drillers. They fucking say that in the flip bin. How are you going to get your big break bin Arm again and then poke holes in it with a thing they say explicitly? Apparently all of this like commentary as a like a purchase item

was started with Criterion Collection unsurprisingly. And I guess with the Criterion Channel you can still access it as far as streaming services obviously this is not something that's easy to get yeah but the criterion channel uh supports audio commentaries um on a lot of their films which i didn't know yeah existed but um the first one was a criterion collection laser disc of king kong wow um who did they get to wait the new king kong or the old king kong old who did they get to talk about old kinkong so uh 1933 King Kong, they got a film preservationist at the Los Angeles County Museum of Art. Okay, okay. They leave, in this article I read off of TDM, they listed some of the texts, and this film

preservationist saying, I'm going to take you on a lecture tour of King Kong as you watch the film. The laser disc technology offers us this opportunity, and we feel it's rather unique, the ability to switch back and forth between the soundtrack and this lecture track. I don't I don't know if you feel the same way I imagine you do and I imagine a lot of people in our sort of age bracket do I have so much nostalgia for that era of like wonderment of what digital video discs are capable like you show me any kind of like intro animation of like a laser fucking across a CD and just like the future. comes out of it and the future is you know Mike Myers and Dana Carvey talking about like the making of Wayne's World too it's it really really um I don't know

that's a good future that's like a great future that they found and we're promoting and then the future like went way beyond that way fast but for a perfect little moment it was like here on this disc the yeah well the idea that physical media was still going to be a thing and always going to be a thing sure you know but now we have this futuristic looking you know physical media yeah um so the question always is like

why with streaming platforms why aren't they just including this yeah um and uh the suggestion might just be that uh you know with contracts and licensing it may be an issue there's like uh this there's an article on the verge that says like there's 80 different parties that own 80 different facets of this.

If the title is a focus features film and they're trying to figure out who owns the director's commentary that they did 20 years ago and they're trying to figure out how to incorporate it, you're going to run into some rights issues. So that's part of it. There are some platforms that have started releasing audio commentary tracks as podcasts. Okay. I guess Netflix did this recently with Glass Onion with Ryan Johnson. but there's some sinking issues, you know, between the podcast and the film.

And it was a kind of frustrating experience, apparently, for a lot of people. It doesn't seem like it would be that hard to, like, different platforms have different ways of, like, handling this. Like, if you buy a movie on Apple TV, it, like, has a splash screen before it starts where you can choose, like, bonus features or whatever if it has any. But, like, on Netflix, it seems like you could just choose an audio track that would, be the director's commentary. That was the argument I saw. Like if they, if they have a film in like five different languages, why couldn't you choose audio competition? Yeah. But I think it's, again, it's like a rights issue. Well, and it's also like a, I don't know, platform issue. Like Netflix doesn't have that splash screen situation. So like, and neither does most of the other

streaming platforms. So like, why would you make that stuff if it's not going to be available? Yeah, it's a fucking mess. I will say also another thing. Apparently, if you search on Spotify, some users have taken it upon themselves to upload director's commentary so you can find like Super Bad and scream and do the right thing. Oh, man. I think I've listened. I think I actually did watch the Super Bad. I think Bill Hader is on the Super Bad commentary.

That an anchor man, I definitely, definitely watched with commentary. Like when you have these films with these like really amazing actors, the opportunity to sit for like an hour and a half and listen to them talk about the movie like it was incredible all the judd appetal ones were great because the bonus features had i think it was called like riff rifforama or something like that where they would just show like yeah they would do one line over and over yeah they would do one line with a different punchline like over and over again fucking anchor man they made so much of that they packaged a special version of it that i think was like a best by exclusive DVD yeah that was a completely different fucking film i i i feel like i'm maybe dreamed this or something but it was like a totally different plot totally different ending yeah and it was a best by exclusive DVD it was so strange yeah i think that's what i mean you know there are a lot of people in our lives that are still holding on to a lot of these like blu-ray and DVD versions and a lot of it is because of that right you know like it's hard to get rid of that knowing that like you might not ever see it again yeah and it's such a shame because like that stuff doesn't have to

go away just because of the transition from physical to digital media like there's so many ways to preserve that stuff there's so many ways to keep doing it's i mean a lot of it is probably like a clear financial reason of like you can't really track whether adding the audio commentary i mean i guess maybe you could like like is that really adding value like are you getting more hits because of the fact that you added that knowing that you paid a bunch more to get actors to sit down and do it you know like i mean it's also complicated stuff of like what do you own like what do you own in the digital uh in your digital movie collection yeah yeah because it's not going to move around with you forever so like having this packaged thing yeah if that package doesn't work if you move

it to another platform those tvs used to cost more you know like you could buy just the film for like 10 bucks or you could get like the special bonus version for like 20 that had all this extra stuff. Yeah. You know, I don't know. I wish we purged all of our DVDs, I think, at this point. Like, we got rid of basically everything. Yeah, I feel like we put some in a little zipper CD case, but maybe that's not true.

I wish I would have held on to some of that stuff. I wish I would have held on to, like, some of the movies I knew, like, oh, these DVDs have, like, really great shit on them. Not that I think I'd ever watch them again. Yeah, because we don't even really have a DVD player. No, I think I have a PS3 somewhere still in my office closet. Yeah, that's a good one. You want to know what our friends at home are talking about? Yes.

Essie says, My Small Wonder is untranslatable words, things that have one single word for them in one language, but not in any slash most others. The one I'm currently enjoying is from my native language of Finnish, where we have the term Ruska, which means the phenomenon of leaves turning colors in the autumn. The Ruska has been very beautiful this year. I like that a lot. Yeah, me too. It seems very convenient to have one word for that. Chase says, hey, just felt like reporting a small wonder. I like reporting as the active verb there.

Thinking about we have all these like people on the ground. Our folks in the field. Chase. Sending us the top stories. Yes, Chase says, My small wonder is when you open a bag of tortilla chips and every chip is a full-sized chip. No breakage in transportation, full dipability.

Amazing. We got a bag of lime, a hint of lime chips that are, these are the biggest wholenest tortilla chips I've at like I'm struggling to get through these things in like three bites I haven't even gotten in there yet oh my god they're huge you could build a little sailboat for a mouse with these things that's it thank you so much for listening thanks to bowen and augustus for these for a theme song money won't pay if I'll link to that in the episode description thank you to maximum fun for having us on the network go to maximum fun dot org check out all the great shows they've got popping over there we are doing candle nights

live in huntington again December 6 you can get tickets for that at bit dot ly slash The Night's 2025. You can also get a streaming ticket. We're going to be putting the video on demand up, I believe, on December 19th. We're going to be in the live chat for that when that airs. It's a really, really wonderful show, wonderful time. And for a wonderful cause, because all the proceeds go directly to Harmony House, which works to end homelessness in the Huntington, West Virginia area. We've worked with them a lot. It's a really great organization. Two book things. I've got to choose your own adventure book coming out March 10th. It's called The Stowe Away. It's a sci-fi outer space Choose Your Own Adventure book and you can pre-order that at bit.ly slash griffon's stowaway. I'm very excited for it and I'm just very excited for it to be out there.

And then in July, the Adventure Zone story and song, the final Adventure Zone, Taz Balance, graphic novel adaptation written by all of us and illustrated by Carrie Peach is going to be coming out. We revealed the cover for that

a couple weeks ago and you can pre-order it now at The Adventure Your Zone Comic.com. I remembered all those URLs without looking at my phone. I'm fucking locked in right now. You really did. Diled in. So please consider pre-ordering that. The pre-orders really, really super duper help us out. And I don't know, you're going to want to read this book. It's going to be a fun. I'm usually not one of humble pie. It's one of my favorite foods. This book's going to absolutely kick your ass. And I'm so fucking excited for it. Yeah, it's one of the, like, pre-ordering is one of those things where you think, like, oh, it's going to be so far from now. Like, why would I do it now? But then it's also like, well, I know I'm going to get it. Yeah.

Now, that way, I don't have to think about it. And it helps us in like the back, the sales end of thing, the business end of things. Yeah, it's, it's you're creating hype. Yes, please. That's it. Thank you so much for listening. I hope you had a great and very scary Halloween. And we'll be back with the new episode next week.

And hopefully I'll be coming at you for. from just a different register entirely. What if I got sick in a way that made my voice get like really high? That could be fun. I don't know what that would look like, but, and maybe you could try something out new next week.

We've gotten some feedback like, Rachel's voice is always the same pitch. What's going on? I feel like I have been ill when we have recorded and had a different voice. Not, but almost never. You're so,

your constitution's so fucking rock saw. I have the immune system of, I don't know, like a ICU nurse or something? I don't know. It's remarkable. I have the immune system of a four-year-old boy, which is appropriate. Because we have one of those.

Here's my theory. I have worked out in the world for a very long time. Not me. And you have been working from home exclusively for, gosh, I don't know. My hermetically sealed dork chamber. Bye. money on working on

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