Wonderful! - Wonderful! 400: Pollution or Sailor Magic?

Episode Date: December 17, 2025

A special secret surprise episode with cool things suggested by some very special kids! Bonding activities! Natural phenomena! Baked goods! Weather patterns! Memory centers! Kombat! Valve! Festive plants! Playful music! Resorts with good smells! Pink round friends! Difficult games!Music: “Money Won’t Pay” by bo en and Augustus – https://open.spotify.com/album/7n6zRzTrGPIHt0kRvmWoyaHarmony House: https://harmonyhousewv.com/

Hi, this is Rachel McElroy. Hi, this is Griffin McElroy. And this is wonderful. You have joined us and joined a very special club today. The 400 Club. it's we're here it's here at the moment we've been planning for yeah hours has arrived when we first started wonderful I said you know Griffin maybe we'll make it to 100 maybe we'll make it to 200 if we ever make it to 400 we should plan the biggest most elaborate episode ever it just

kind of feels like 400 is almost nothing it's like there's certain point a hundred obviously huge 300 feels cool because they made that kick ass movie about it yeah i never saw that oh it kicks it's just dudes kicking and stabbing dudes over and over yeah that's cool 500 hello halfway to 1k you say that as a like long time professional of the podcast industry i would say there are a lot of shows that haven't been around for 400 episodes we're about to hit 8 on my bam bam and it's like who gives us 800 is nothing it's not even a thousand yet 900 you're like hell yeah we're on the final crawl because once you hit four digits it's like I don't know I feel like you should get a letter from the president or something and hopefully we'll have like a way cooler

by the time we hit that being like four years or so this is a wonderful show we talk about things we like that is good that we're into and this is going to be a weird one this episode Should we do small wonders before we get into it? Yeah, I'm just so excited to find out what we're doing today. I know, I did all the work in quotes to prepare for this episode, which I don't know if that made you nervous or not. Made me excited. Okay. I trust you.

Because last night you did ask me, like, can you give me a hint? Deep curiosity, not out of concern or any kind of doubt. Okay. Well, that's comforting. Yeah. Small wonder. I mean, we just had our 12th wedding. anniversary, December, I mean, December 7th is the day.

Yeah, which was technically the day we were flying back from Huntington. From candle nights, yes, which was a wonderful, wonderful time, but maybe not the best way. Spending your anniversary in some airports, was not the most exciting. With your children. Well, we managed to sneak away for a night, and we went to a little relaxing little lover's spa, and it was so choice. Should we, should we sit? Well, I don't know if we should say. It was one of the salamander chains.

Apparently there are salamanders everywhere. Yes. This is the salamander we chose. So festive is what I like about it. Yeah, I love going to it. Maybe that'll be my small wonder. Can that count? I love going to a hotel around the holiday season.

Yes. Because you get some bonus decor. Yes. Makes it feel fancy. This hotel had a horse. Had horses. We saw one. One was called Nacho.

I touched him on the face. Did you notice I didn't touch him? I got nervous. I did notice that. I got a little scared. You don't often get a chance to touch one of those beauts. It's probably been since we shot the intro to the Mubim Bam TV show that I've touched a horse. There was a sign.

So it was very minimally staffed. And there was a sign out front that said, if the horse is sticking its head out of its stable, then you are welcome to touch it. But then every other horse also had a sign that said, this one will bite. Yeah, there was not nacho. Nacho is chill. Nach seemed very chill. Yeah. He's good.

He's good. We had a, I mean, a soul connection. It's hard not to form one for me with a horse. So, this week. This week. For our special 400th episode, we- I wanted to do something special. Yeah, what was the, tell me about the origins of this idea. I don't really remember how I got the idea. Maybe we were watching or talking about something.

I don't know. Anyway, I was sitting next to the boys and Griffin was folding his laundry. And I said, Griffin, you know what we should do for the 400th episode? I should ask our children, big son, small son, Henry and Gus, what their wonderful things are. Yes. And I said, that's great. I took my laundry upstairs. And then about seven minutes later, I would say, after finishing hanging and putting away my laundry, I came down. You said, I am done.

And I said, whoa. And you said, yeah, it was super quick. And I got like 15 things here. And I was like, what were they? and you said, I'm not going to tell you. It'll be a special secret surprise. They were able to come up with enough that I thought, like, this is a whole episode. Oh, hell yeah, dude.

So, yeah, I thought I would share some with you. I also thought it was interesting to watch them go through the process. Yeah. Because it was very similar to our own experience of recording this show, and that the first few were these kind of big, like, weighty concepts. Yeah. And then by the end, I was having to prompt them a little bit. Like, is there like a food?

or a place that you like. Gosh, is that what you, is that how you talk to your own sort of internal creative? Is that how you speak to your muse? It's like, come on, man. Chili beans. Fucking, give me something.

I mean, I am not a consumer of culture, maybe at the level that you are. Yeah. I can't get enough of the stuff. So I feel like, and also just the nature of like you doing, for example, a video game podcast. Yeah.

You are constantly kind of having to explore new things and develop affection for them. For me, like, that's not really part of my job. Yeah. And so I catch as catch can, you know? I get it, baby. You do not have to explain yourself to me. Anyway. So I don't have anything prepared for these topics.

Yeah. But I bet there will be some crossover. Yeah, and you'll probably be able to guess some of them. Okay. So first thing, Big Sun says, Henry, because as you know, Henry likes to try and figure out what the kind of the most mature, precocious answer would be. Sure. So he said friendship. That's so good, Henn.

Absolutely, bud. And then as we got going, he kind of doubled back and said, don't say friendship. Say playing games with your friends. So he got more specific. He gets it, man. He freaking gets it. Playing games with your friends. it's the best dude he's like i don't want to just say friendship because that sounds kind of like

a kid answer uh and so he's like i want to be like more specific it's really good to watch him play games with his friends it's really really fun to watch uh for his birthday we now nine year old like he's nine yeah yeah but he's he i mean there's there's enough out there for the nine year old bracket yeah especially with roblox oh my god with roblox yeah with roblox seeing him and his buddies like cut up or like watching him and his friends absolutely pop off over like Mario Mario Kart and Smash Brothers. It's just it's really good stuff. I also like playing games with my friends. I know. Well, yeah. I mean, there's a lot of things on here. I think you'll, you'll find you have in common with our older son. Yeah, that's crazy. The first thing Gus said

moved me so much. Uh-oh. So exactly right and so exactly. exactly how we started this show. What Gus said is when the clouds are pink. Holy shit, dude. I could almost cry. That's really good. Isn't that incredible? Can I tell you something without spoiling the magic?

Probably minutes. You did show him. I did mention that the clouds were pink that evening during the sunset as I was folding my laundry. But it's still good that he connected the dots. so beautiful that we were at the very beginning of this exercise and you know most kids like when you talk about things that you like it's like things they consume like properties or toys or whatever i had not at that point kind of directed them to any category and just pop that one off it's so choice and i'm guessing that's when like the sunlight is only hitting them from the bottom

and not from the top at all i didn't research were we supposed to well no i guess not it's just at sunset and sunrise but then why doesn't doesn't it happen every day when there's clouds out? That's what's crazy. I mean, I thought it was always related to pollution. I think it's related to sailor luck. I've always known it to, I remember hearing that the red sky at night, sailors delight. This is the difference of like the schools of thought around climate change. Like is it pollution or is it sailor magic? It might be sailor magic. Do you remember learning about that, the red sky at night, sailors delight, red sky at morning, sailors warning and thinking like that's so I'm connected to something ancient and powerful now I don't remember the

context it sounds like it was something in a poem though right I don't know I feel like it was something that probably a parent or loved one said to me when I was like look how pink or red the sky is it's so good when the sky's a crazy color it's so so good um okay so then this is when they start to get kind of wow fast then just more specific Well, Henry said peanut butter chocolate chip cookies, which surprised me because I made those once with the help of Gus. We made peanut butter cookies and put chocolate chips in them. I don't know when else he would have had them. Yeah, no, I don't either. Maybe it's just something that he's been wanting lately, which I welcome.

I love a peanut butter chocolate chip cookie. Our children are both such picky eaters, which is not unusual for this age. But like anytime they say a food to me that I haven't served them five times that way. week already. Yeah. It's exciting. I tell you what I need in my cookies these days.

It's hard for me to rock with a cookie that doesn't have a nut sort of theme and also just like a little creamy something. What are you thinking of right now when you say that? I mean like a peanut butter

chocolate chip cookie, I think is nut with a little creamy spark. But then like a white chocolate macadamia nut. Oh, I love that. Oh, I love that. You're eating it and you're like, nut, nut, nut, nut, nut.

And then there's a little creamy surprise in there? People are going to pull that a sound bite. Guys, I mean what I'm saying 100%. I swear to God, I want a nutty cookie with a creamy little burst in there. Nut, nut, nut, nut, and then you get the cream inside. Okay, Gus said snow. Yeah, we got a little bit of that for the first time this season.

There are elements of what Gus says where you can hell he's just kind of looking around the room. Which again, I get as someone who is prepared for this show. I love snow though. Sometimes you're just looking around the room. I do love snow. I hope we do get more of it. We did happen to get a little bit of snow. I wish snow would be a thing that legally had to go away after one day. Because there's nothing more exciting than coming downstairs and there's snow outside. And there's nothing less exciting than going outside a few days later and it's still the same nasty, frozen, gross snow all over the place. Is that a law we can, do you think, do you think we can do that? I don't know how we get that past. I don't know

how you do it. I mean, it would be a lot of work, right? A lot of city employees just cleaning up. Yeah, not just streets. I mean, I don't want to see this. In our lawn. In our bushes and tree tops. I don't want to see this stuff. Okay. Henry, again, goes back to his procoval. theme and said the hippocampus and frontal lobe he doesn't I don't think he knows does he know what that is I don't know I didn't push why did he why did he say that though I don't know honey I want to find out what those two parts of the brain do the hip how do you spell hippocampus I spelled it like hippo and then campus that's exactly right yeah it's like a college for huge mammals that's there's like a it's it's deep within the medial temporal lobe part of the limbic system and it's a major role in learning memory formation and spatial navigation it looks like a sea horse which gave rise to its name from the Greek words hippo and compost sea monster okay and then frontal lobe is I don't really want to know how the Greeks found this thing doesn't seem they sure didn't do a cat scan. No, I know. I don't know how they got their hands on one of these bad boys.

Yeah. So thoroughly. Maybe something died of natural causes. Yes. And they said, well, let's take this opportunity to investigate. We have two of them, one in each cerebral hemisphere, hippocampi. And yeah, I guess it's just for like encoding and consolidating new declarative memories. Yeah.

I mean, it's one of those things I've heard reference, but I don't really know. the deal. Yeah. That's cool. I guess it's like the memory, your memory palace. Yeah.

That's where I go. Gus said, this is where I started to prompt them a little bit. Okay. And like, what are some things you like to do?

And I said like games, food, places. Yeah. Gus said playing Mortal Kombat. So this makes us sound like bad parents. Uncle Justin.

Uncle Justin. Everyone's got an Uncle Justin. Justin. No. I sure as shit didn't have a, I had several, I had a couple cool uncles. Let me rephrase that. Everyone has an uncle that maybe introduces you to things that you probably shouldn't know about yet. That's fair. Yes. Uncle Justin does have a couple, uh, sort of, uh, homemade arcade games in his basement. One of them stands about three apples tall. It's like a two and a half foot tall. It's Gus size. It's Gus size. And it just happens to have

all the Mortal Kombat games and like Paperboy and a bunch of shit he's not gonna play it's a weird collection of like clacks and Paperboy and Cubert

and then games where Scorpion can beat the living shit out of Shang Sung yeah so he does enjoy sort of watching the guys hit each other

well it's just it's a game and I enjoy this about Mortal Kombat too where you can just push a bunch of buttons and stuff happens yeah

and you don't really know why or how, but it seems like you're doing well if you push enough buttons fast. There's another arcade machine down there that has Street Fighter 2 Turbo Edition, which is my preferred sort of classic fighting game, but the boys can't really hang with that. It's, I don't know, it feels better

in Mortal Kombat to just walk up to a guy and hit him with the... What is this game that you're excited about? Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo Edition. What makes it turbo edition? It goes fast as fuck. It's like Street Fighter 2, but with more stuff

and it's so fast it's crazy when E Honda does this thousand hand slap it's like you can't even see the shit

moving it's crazy who's your favorite street fighter oh I know that there's the lady ones very good

very good uh yeah it's one of those things where I would if you gave me three names I would know

which one was a street fighter Ken Ken Shadow. Suzuki. Ken. It's okay. I should have known that you pulled that one so quickly.

I did. All right. Maybe I'll tell you one more and then we'll take a break. I would love that. Henry said every game known to man to be played on a steam deck. Crazy. Crazy. Can I try and walk you through this?

Yes. When we were children, you play games on your computer if you were a huge fucking dork, right? And we did, we did, right? Like, I know that you grew up and your grandma played games with you on your PC. Yeah. But it was like its own little thing. It was like its own little ecosystem. You went over there when you wanted to play, you know, Wolfenstein or...

Or Doom or Heretic. And then there were consoles where you could play games. Most of the time that were sort of sort of. specific to that console, right? Sega was where you would go play Sonic and Mario was over on Nintendo. It's really tough now in the year of our Lord 2025 because everything has moved pretty far away from that where now like most stuff comes out on everything and Steam just happens to have almost all the games except for a handful of exclusives that still go on like PlayStation Nintendo and Microsoft. And so like it's tough to kind of like explain that to a nine year old

where it's like, everything's on there, man. Well, this is news to me, too, honey, so I don't blame him. Yeah, no, I mean, it's... I thought that Steam was a place where people made games specifically for Steam, and you played Steam games on Steam. It is a profoundly, I would say, monopolistic sort of video game sales platform. I mean, that's it right there.

Open on my computer right there. Where just like a billion billion, if a game comes out and it's on computer, 99.9.9. percent of the time you can buy it on Steam. It makes also like the handhelds like Steam deck and then they got some new stuff coming out next year. They're in like the VR space and they're making their own desktop PC. But like, I don't know, everything's on it now.

Everything is on it. And there's a weird, he plays a lot of Switch and a lot of iPad, but it's tough to get him really into Steam because there's infinite options for him there. It's a real paralysis of choice. But it is crazy that he is born into a world where one can play any game on this little tiny guy in his lap um let's take a break oh can i steal you away oh my god yes four hundred episodes in i got to lock this shit down what else we got okay um gus said christmas tree so we're back into this sort of looking around

the room but yeah love a christmas tree we've had the one we've had now Now, did it move with us from Austin? I think it did. Oh, I thought, why did we go? I thought we moved here and we went to like a Home Depot. Oh, yes, you're right. I don't think we moved our tree. Home Depot is sort of a, or Lowe's, I forget where we went.

It's sort of a weird, there's a weird type of store in a big, big city like D.C. Where it's like, what are you doing here, Home Depot? Like the parking lot. You're too big home depot to be here. The parking lot isn't nearly big enough. No. That is the problem with, like, a city home depot is that you need an enormous parking lot that's, like, part of the DNA of a home depot. Yeah.

And then you get there, and it just feels like everyone has journeyed from across the, like, tri-state region to go to this one home depot. And there's just like an open, one department of the store is just like ablaze. There's just a truck sticking out of the wall. Everyone's just like, I don't know, man, this shouldn't be here. So we've only had that Christmas tree for three. years. I guess so. It feels like longer. It feels a little worn down already. Yeah, maybe it's not a special well, part of the problem is that we kind of keep it basically outside in a shed. Yeah. So the elements are not exactly kind to it. Maybe. I think it's doing okay all things considered. It's got one of those little

foot buttons, a little button you hit with your foot. Change it from a like a plain ordinary light. That is true. But it also has a section that does not light up. Yeah. I don't really know what to do about that. We just put a sort of thick kind of belt of ornaments around that. I've noticed refractive sort of ornaments that kind of just catch the light and hide our, I don't know. I don't, I'm, I actually feel a little bit sensitive about you shit talking our Christmas. I'm not, if we could figure out how to fix that light issue. It's one of those things where like you can't tell like which bulb it is. It's just a section of it.

And how do you, if it comes pre-lit, how do you, I don't know. I should go to a trade school just for lighting stuff. Because I think I'm pretty savvy when it comes to, I don't know, some repairs and some electronics and stuff like that. Put a bunch of wires together. I've also had a lamp that I've tried to fix a few times that still doesn't fucking work. And I don't think I could do a Christmas tree. I don't think I could do a Christmas tree. I think I'd lose my mind.

I'm sure there's a YouTube video about it. No, because I've watched those and it doesn't. It can't. There's not a Christmas tree, YouTube? Oh, I'm talking about lamp. I thought we were talking about. What is a Christmas tree, but like a thousand little lamps? Okay, I got songs from each boy.

Oh, nice. I can't wait to hear these. Come along with me from Adventure Time? Oh, that was Henry's? Yeah. That's a theme song. It's really, I mean, that show has a very special vibe. And I think it sets you up with that in the, actually, it's the, actually, it's the

closing credits theme it's like what plays over the credits and it's like that come along with me and the butterflies and peace i'll put you know what let's play a clip of come along with me and the butterflies and bees we can wander through the forest and do so as we please Come along with me I love the pick We haven't watched a ton of adventure time And yet both boys Every night when we go to bed

Yeah Want us to play everything stays Which is a lullaby It's just the most lovely song ever It's the most lovely most beautiful song ever And it's so deeply ingrained In like my mind And your mind and the boys' minds

We're like I'm pretty sure if I hear it you know, 10, 20 years from now, I'll be absolutely devastated. Can I tell you something that I made myself a little emotional about thinking the other day? Uh-oh. As I was like, what if this is the song that I dance with, one of our sons. Oh, Jesus. Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. We're going to, can we take like a two-hour break from it and then finish it?

Yeah, no, but we've not watched a lot. We haven't seen the episode of the show that that song is from. It's just like Henry saw it in a YouTube video once. It was like, this is a nice song. And then it became our bedtime song. But yeah, come along with me is also very nice. What was Gus's? Gus's was his new jam, which is Super Idol funk.

I think this is a meme song from a Chinese pop artist. I don't know anything about it. This thing's hot off the presses, man, 12 hours old or so. Yeah, I don't know where it came from. It's really difficult to find. It's really difficult. but there's like a trillion remixes. And he always wants a really specific one.

He does. He loves remixes. Disappointing. There's some songs Gus is into. There are some true club bangers. This one does not like my fire. I was kind of hoping one of them would say Mr. Stinky Butt, but it didn't happen. Damn it.

Guys, sometimes they'll ask a song on our screen device. I don't like saying the name of the robot to activate it. But then it'll show up on the screen when we have like friends and family over and be like, hey, do you want to listen to Mr. Stomber? stinky butt. It's not a great, don't seek it out. Don't seek it out. It's not a great track.

Okay. Then we talked about vacation spots. Okay. Henry said Wilderness Lodge. Yes. Which was confirming because now when we go to Disney, we feel like we have to stay there. And I started to wonder, like, is that really true? Do we really have to keep staying at this one resort? But it's very important.

It turns out, though, it is quite important to the boys. For Henry, like that is Disney. adore Wilderness Lodge. Yes. The price has gotten truly fucking criminal, outrageous, just really, really preposterously high. Yeah. So if we could nudge him in a art of animation direction or Holiday Inn Express. What's the one that has Chef Mickey's?

Is that one any better? The contemporary? Yeah, or is that the same? I don't know. I haven't looked. I assume most of the... If we could get one that has like something that he would be into. Sure.

But, like, a lot of the stuff that I would kind of like to do, like, what's the one that has the, um, the dolewip? Oh, the Polynesian? Polynesian. I would like to do the Polynesian, but he doesn't care about any of the stuff that's at the Polynesian. No, I guess not. Um, yeah, damn. I love that place. I love, I do love Wilderness Lodge.

It is my favorite of the places to stay there that we've been. The smell, outrageous. You walk in, it hits you with that fucking, that music and the smell is tremendous. It's just so expensive. Gus said, and then Henry agreed, I can't remember what he calls this place, but Great Wolf Lodge. Oh, God, what does he call it?

What does he call it? He said that, and I had to correct him because he always calls it something wrong. I don't know. I'm not going to pull it. He does kind of mix it with Wilderness Lodge a little bit. Anyway, Great Wolf Lodge. Both the boys love it.

I don't totally understand why anymore. Here's the thing, Great Wolf Lodge. It's a water park arcade magic. adventure with infinite candy and techno dance parties that go until 11 o'clock and it's a kid's dreamland and i i love giving that to our boys yeah i don't love catching the super zika bird flu it's a super swine zika bird flu mix every time you go to it and a child touches a single surface they get their hand comes back and you can actually see the zika bird flu of fucking particles, like, moving around on their finger because it's just a damn of plague.

I think I have narrowed it down to the arcade, although I will say last time we went, I brought a bunch of, like, antibacterial wipes and, like, sprays. I, like, came in, like, I was going into battle. Yeah. And I really focused my energy on the arcade, thinking that was, like, the hot zone. And they still got sick. Still got sick. We got sick.

You were like a murderer trying to clean a crime scene, like trying to get rid of all fingerprints. They would play the fucking Nerf gun shooter game and then you'd come up and Some of this is like COVID. Like it just like, you know, I was pregnant at the height of COVID. I had an infant still in quarantine. And so some of that is that. And also just like our kids get sick and it's like a whole week. Yeah.

And it's stressful. And like they always get sick with the things. thing that you can't really treat. Yeah. It's just the worst. I hate it so much. And then Gus and Henry also both agreed Disney World because, of course. Although Henry thought that was kind of, he didn't say cliche, but he was kind of like,

I just want to be the kid that says Disney World. He's got some thoughts about, he's starting to develop a sort of anti-establishment sort of streak. Gus and Henry also both agreed on New York. Gus said it first, and then Henry was like, oh, yeah, they both love going to New York. New York rules. Which makes me feel like we're raising these little urban princes, and I kind of love it. I do love it.

I mean, the stuff we do with them in New York is, there's still so much to do. There's still so much to do. We've really focused on the things that are like Grand Slam, guaranteed to be a hit. I mean, the Nintendo World Store, you can't. You can't be Color Factory. Nintendo Color Factory, yes. Took them to Times Square last time we were there, and that was a pretty huge sensory overload. But it's a little nice time.

Yeah, they just, I don't know. I didn't go there until I was probably 12 or 13 years old. And so it's... Same. I mean, my parents brought me there when I was an infant because my dad had family in New York. So I went there before I could even come close to remembering. What a town. Yeah, we didn't go back until I was in middle school, which is honestly a good age because

then you could hit the museums in like a meaningful way. And you can go to shows and stuff. That was huge for me. And we haven't done any of that stuff with them. No, not yet. Yeah. Someday, though. And then finally, Henry had to hit two video games.

Oh, cool. First is kind of a lot of video games, which is anything Kirby. Yeah, no. He loves Kirby. He does. Not so hot on that new Kirby Airwriters game. No? Kirby Racing.

No, it hasn't really set him on fire, but he, God knows we've spent enough time playing the other Kirby games. The other one is a game that you have spent a lot of time. working with him on lately, and do you know what that is? Castle Crashers? Yes, 100%. So Castle Crashers is a beat-em-up that came out on Xbox 360 back in like 2008, I want to say, 2007, 2008.

It's an old game. They released like an expansion for it this year, which is very weird to release DLC for your 17-year-old, like arcade beat-em-up game that lets you sort of make your own characters and download other people's characters. Oh, okay. So that was a big deal for him. Jesus Christ, there's a really hard version of the game, a hard mode you can unlock, and it's too hard for us to play.

And it hasn't been very fun, but he wants the unlockables. And so today I downloaded a cheat program on my office computer and played through the entire game in the span of about an hour and a half. I played Castle Crashers today just to unlock those guys so we wouldn't have to play this terrible. mode. And I did not get a thank you for what I thought was truly above and beyond parenting. He just doesn't know. He doesn't know that one, most people don't have parents that are as in touch with video games as you are. Yeah. Or as skilled at video games as you are. I mean, I downloaded sheets. Let's be careful here. I know. But like willing to put in the time, you know, like I think a lot about like what if we were the kind of family where we got Henry, you know, like a switch.

or whatever, and they didn't know how to do any of the games and how frustrating that would be for him. Yeah, no. He just has no idea how fortunate he is. Yeah, that's what he's been playing on Steam Deck so much. Because what would happen is what happened to me a lot as a kid, which is like you can't get past a certain point. Yeah.

Oh, I mean, old games used to definitely be like that. And you just stop playing. Yeah. You're just like, well, that's it. I really like playing this game, but I can't get past this place, so I guess I'll never play it again. What are you supposed to do when you get to like that part

and echo the dolphin and you don't have a big brother there who's like you gotta jump up through the ring silly billy yeah and i mean also we were kids when the internet was not as much of a resource so like would you go get a magazine yeah most of the time yeah or he called the nintendo hotline um which they're not going to help you with echo the dolphin they'll laugh your ass out of the room if you say hey nintendo hotline i can't beat this level and echo the dolphin they'll say what the fuck are you doing we're talking to me man Nintendo didn't have a comparable like uh They had Rebecca the narwhal.

She was cool. She was cool. Not as hard of a game, sort of for kids. But Sega does what Nintendo don't. I don't know if you've heard. There you go. I have not pulled any submissions from the listeners at home.

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Still doing it at 9 p.m. Yeah, it's going to be a late night for real party animals. But you don't have to watch it live at all. No, it's on demand. When you purchase your ticket, you can watch it like any time after. Anytime you want. But we'll be in the live chat for this like live premiere and hanging out and giving some behind the scenes deets. There's some behind the scenes footage in the thing that I don't know what it is.

I haven't seen it yet. But I'm excited. It was such a lovely evening. And when you buy your ticket to watch it, all that money goes to $100. Harmony House, which is a group we've worked with for a long time that is working to provide a bunch of different supportive services to folks experiencing homelessness in Huntington, West Virginia. So it's for a very good cause and it's got huge holiday vibes.

So bit.ly slash candle nights 2025 is where you can go to get your ticket for that. Please, please, please do it. Think about doing it and then do it. Please thank you so much. Thanks for listening also to our show for 400 episodes, plus change if you're one of them Rosebuddies old heads. Yeah, which we didn't realize we really only did for, we did it for less than two years. Yeah. Because I was looking back at the dates and I was like, wow, okay, so we started in 2016.

Yeah. And then we finished in 2017. Yeah, I think it felt like longer because it was... Stressful? Yeah, I would say doing that. We launched a show with an infant that involved why. Watching a weekly television program and taking notes and sharing thoughts on it. I can't understand why we did that.

When we had one kid, it was just fucking hubris, man. It was just we're gods and we can do anything. Time is a construct and there's infinite of it. And then when the second one comes along, I would not launch a new podcast in 2020. In fact, I don't think I've launched a new podcast since the year of our Lord 2021. But that's okay because I love the ones I got this one right here. here. Here's to 400 more episodes, 12 more years of marriage, and then we'll just, we'll keep going from there, but the stars have really aligned on these major milestones, don't you think, babe?

Yeah, for sure. Hi-fives. Oh, no, I was putting up my hands for like a sort of romantic, like... We're across the room from each other. Yeah, but I can, like, feel your energy. Oh, yeah? Yeah, dude. Can you not? Hold on, I'm going to shoot it at you. I'm going to do hot energy with this hand and cold energy with this hand, ready? Okay. They both feel cold.

Damn it. Bye, everybody. Bye. Maximum fun. Maximum fun. A worker-owned network of artist-owned shows. Supported directly by you.