Wonderful! - Wonderful! 403: The Big Bone Find of 1212

Episode Date: January 14, 2026

Rachel's favorite advocate for alternative footwear techniques! Griffin's favorite ubiquitous mythical creature!Music: “Money Won’t Pay” by bo en and Augustus – https://open.spotify.com/album/7n6zRzTrGPIHt0kRvmWoyaImmigrant Defenders Law Center: https://www.immdef.org/

Hi, this is Rachel McElroy. Hello, this is Griffin McElroy. And this is wonderful. 2.0, welcome to the future. That's my mech suit. I climbed in it to podcast. Checking systems. Motor online.

Lasers going. To give a little context, and those of you that watch the video content for, the macaroys, you may have noticed Griffin has changed the layout of his office. And now... I don't know that this is debuted yet. This is still fucking... This is still, like, in beta. Like, I'm obviously got big alpha, maybe even Sigma energy.

That's why I just... People ask, like, what does Griffin do for a living? And I say, well, first, you should know he's got big alpha energy. Maybe even Sigma. And I'm not sure if that's good or bad. Is that... Yeah, I mean, I don't know either. I don't know what that exactly means.

that it's bigger than Alpha? I think it's zero. I think Alpha is one. So anyway, I've fucked up my whole office, guys. I've really, I know that it's, I have a tendency to bring little stuff here to the show. Like, I'd like to welcome new lamp to the studio. Looking back, that's cute. New, new printer.

We talked a lot about new printer. Hey, how cute. New printer. Brother printer. We love him. No, this time I've flipped the whole, I've inverted it, haven't I? I've done a sort of inversion. Now Griffin is sitting behind his computer monitors, which I don't love because he could be looking at anything right now.

Oh, for sure. I don't know what he's looking at. Hot picks. Hot picks. And also I'm sitting on a little couch in his office. Yeah, you are. And I feel like I'm in trouble. Why do you feel like you're in trouble?

Because you're sitting on the couch. I'm jealous. I'm sitting in desk chair. Like I'm a fucking corporate drone. Tip tapping away at my keys as I filed the reports for my. boss. You're sitting on a couch. I mean, it's probably comelier for sure. You're chilling. I'm Do you feel like you could put your feet up as usual? No, not even a little bit at all. Yeah. Because now I'm like barreling the desk. I'm like heading straight into it. And you're on the other side of it. We have a narrow little window here between the boom mics where the arms that are holding up our microphones that I can kind of get at you in. It's fun to kind of, we're like two strangers on a train. Just kind of, anyway, they don't want to hear about my new office set of it. But if the vibe has changed,

If you've noticed a different vibe, then that is probably why. There's probably a good extra 18 inches of space between us from how we usually record. Maybe that's going to make things heat up. Maybe it'll make things cool down. I guess we'll tell by the end of the episode. I will say our neighbors have been running a generator outside. Basically, since the moment we woke up this morning, if you can hear that in the track, that's not because of the new inverted awesome studio mech.

That's the neighbors doing that. I've noticed that everything is kind of shaking a little bit. You notice that? Is that okay? Well, yeah, that's the desk. That's me. I've got my leg up on the desk. I guess I am kind of doing a sort of crisscross applesauce. Okay.

But it's not coming through in the microphone. It's not coming through? No, no, no. Okay. Okay. Do you have any small wonders? Hmm. I am going to say,

I don't know if the small wonder is going to pay off for us or not. Uh-oh. But on this season of Traders. Yes. One of the contestants is Ron Funches. I'm loving it. Who is somebody that you personally know and have worked with before and will probably work with again. And I am excited about possibly maybe someday in the future, potentially you getting to get a little bit of inside information on traitors directly from a contestant that has been on the show.

He's so he's one of the most delightful human beings to ever live. and I'm worried that the show is going to turn on him and his niceness in a way. Yeah. I think he came at that first, not tribal, what do they call it, roundtable. Roundtable. Like so prepared, ready to present a case, excited to get someone out first episode that's a traitor. And I was like, that's what I would do, I bet. I bet I would also be like, and here's evidence, A, B, and C.

And it didn't work out. And I can't imagine how frustrating that must be. And what really happened, I mean, this is not really spoiling anything, I don't think. He comes forward with evidence. It doesn't end up working out in the way that you think it's going to. Somebody else comes forward with basically vibes and it does work out. Yeah. And so there's a real lesson there of like maybe vibes is the way to go.

And then that leaves poor Ron in the situation of like, I guess evidence is not what these people want. Yeah. Yeah. The season, it hasn't been hitting quite right for me. As much as I love Funchus and love to see him up on my screen, Michael Rappaport can huff both of my fucking butt cheeks at the same time. Unwatchable. The question that I have really been mulling over that I want an answer on, and I'm hoping that he will give you, is that we learn pretty early just through very light research that they do not stay at that big fancy mansion. No, they don't. And so the suggestion is they stay at like a hotel. And then we started looking, okay, where is this mansion? Where is the nearest hotel? And your like cursory research suggested this hotel is like three hours, like a very far away from the castle.

And so part of me is like the logistics of that seem crazy. Yeah. So that is like one thing I want to figure out of like. What's the commute to being murdered like? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm guessing everybody like in the morning when they go to that little fake breakfast.

I'm guessing like everybody goes to that. And then before you knock on the door, if you're not going, they pull you aside. Can I ask you a question? Yeah. They announced that they are bringing a U.S. version of the traders that is non-celebrity. Yeah. I guess they're casting for it now. They put out a casting call in this most recent episode.

Would you want to do that? Because I feel like I know your feelings on Survivor, right? Like I'd love to do Survivor. I don't know if I'd be any good at it, but it would be such a, like, huge life-changing sort of goal thing. I don't know, I don't know how I do at traders. This would definitely be more comfortable than Survivor. Well, yeah, I mean, they cater, right? Yeah, like you're eating food, you're sleeping in a bed.

Yeah. You get to wear new clothes every day. No secrets from what I, no one's ever been bitten by an ass on the traders and had to evacuate the show that I know of. I mean, the thing, and I think Ron is a good example of this. There are franchises, well, there are franchises on the show that makes it clicky. Yeah, but that wouldn't happen on the- That wouldn't happen feasibly. I think clicks definitely would develop.

Yeah. I don't know how I would do in a click situation. It seems like you would revert to like a teenage version of yourself. So much of the show is informed by the history of, of these reality show contestants, stars, you know, whatever they are, depending on the shows that they come from. And I'm so curious to see what it's, I imagine the, I think the UK version is non-celeb. Is that right?

That sounds right. It seems right to me. No, I heard the suggestion that it is like celebrity. Because like when fucking Boston Robb comes into the Traders House. Yeah. It's like he's, you kind of know what's going to, you kind of know what the next few things that are going to happen are going to be, right? Yeah.

They are the things that have. And so like stripping all that away, I don't know. I'd be curious to see what this game is like. Yeah, I mean, it would probably be like the early seasons of Survivor. You would hope, right? And that some people are just naturally good at it, and they develop kind of their own strategies. Yeah. And it's fun to see kind of how people develop their own personal kind of, I don't know, qualities.

That is happening this season. Obviously, Love Funch is stoked to see them up there. There's a deep friendship forming between Natalie from Surveillance. Survivor and Monet Exchange that I am really, really nourished by and satiated by on a spiritual level. Yeah. I mean, I think like everybody knows the housewives. Yeah. You know, I feel like this is.

We don't really. No, we don't. But this feels like the, because it's on peacock, I guess it feels very like Bravo heavy. Right. And then if you're from something like Survivor or, you know, drag race, it seems like it's more than like. that a lot of people don't know who you are or anything about you. And I love when those people get together. I love it so much. We talked a long time about traders. Yeah. Hey, what's your small wonder? I'm going to say, I don't know if it's the full name of the show, but I believe Welcome to Mongolia is what it is

called, which is a spin-off. Rachel and I were talking about, like, as we were delighting in this show, which is on Netflix, how it is the most niche television programming we have ever watched. In order to appreciate welcome to Mongolia. You must first, one, be familiar with the Physical 100 Korean reality competition athlete show. And it's then a multinational spin-off physical Asia, where the Korean team and Mongolian teams specifically formed kind of a friendship across language barriers and international lines. That continued. And now they have some of the contestants from the Mongolian team on that season of Physical Asia hosting a couple of contestants from the Korean team and one from the Australian team as they just kind of show them around Mongolia. Yeah, it's just a cultural exchange.

There are, I mean, they seem to play games together, but there's no competition. There isn't. They frame it jokingly like it is still physical 100. But in an episode we just watched, there was a contestant on the Mongolian team who was just remarkable to watch. He's a Cirque de Soleil performer. so he's kind of built different from everybody else there. He's kind of built different. He is, I mean, he can do shit with his human body and physics that I've never seen done before.

But they take, he takes, like, everybody to his, like, little circus that he performs at with his wife and his kids. And just seeing all these, like, people who have come together for this international athlete competition show be delighted and scared and just surprised and just, like, really relishing in this one guy's show. I don't know, man. It's fucking great, great, great, great, great TV. Yeah. That is also like, I don't know anything about Mongolia. I have learned while watching this and it's cool, I don't know, to get that too from the program. Yeah, it's a very like kind of serene watch.

It is. It feels more like a travel show than physical 100. I don't know if there's as much crossover audience maybe as we'd like to think. No, but it's so funny watching like apparently in Mongolia, like, the people who are on the Mongolian team of physical Asia have like become celebrities. And obviously the guy Orkon, I think is his name. It doesn't really is adjusting to that still while you are watching him make this television show. It's really truly fascinating TV that you have to be fucking eight levels D in order to appreciate it.

I know. You go first this week. I think it's probably okay that we spent so much time talking about TV since I think both of our topics are. going to be a bit on the shorter side. How's that couch treating you? Just checking in. You're not getting drowsy, are you? No, I'm not getting drowsy.

Okay. Well, first, I should tell you where we're going, which is on a trip to the poetry corner. Okay, cool. Chachachachia, chuh, chuh, chuh, chuh, chuh, chuh, chuh. Do, da da da da da da da da da da da. Whoa. I think I've done this before. It almost became Terminator, which I'm like,

super into Tochin, Chachin, Chon, Poetry Corner. Hey, the meter makes sense. And that's a poetry turn.

And then did it turn into step by step? Is that what that was? It's a rare condition. This state... Oh, Family Matters. That's Family Matters.

Family Matters, if you say it that way. Poetry Corner. I mean, they never say Family Matters in the Family Matters theme song, do they?

Days go by. It's the family matters. TV show I never know the words Yeah that was it It's the Family Matters TV show Well then you can say It's the Poetry Corner

Here comes circle And all his friends I mean I like when they tell you What you're about to watch On the theme song What are you What are you discussing? Okay so

My friend Katie connected me to an Instagram account That is called Read a Little Poem And very frequently they put up short poems that are like, you know, one or two photos. And they're by poets mostly that are not well known. Okay. And that is how I found the poet for this week, which is Joseph Cheney.

Now Joseph Cheney, from what I can tell, has no book of poetry and has maybe never published a book. but I really so deeply liked his poem that I couldn't talk myself out of featuring it on Poetry Corner. This is awesome. This is such, this is like real deep cut shit. Yeah, I will say it's not like he's like completely unestablished. Like he is a professor at Indiana University. He does teach creative writing. And he has published like translations before of other people's.

worked, poetry translations by a Peruvian poet. So it's not like he's not a little bit known in the space, but yeah, from what I can tell, all of his publishing has been like discrete poems in literary magazines. And then he was featured in Best New Poets, 2003 anthology, which every year there's an anthology of like new and promising poets. And they have a poem that is selected and put in there. And yeah, so anyway, so on their, the read-a-little poem Instagram account, there was this poem called Wrong Footed, and I wanted to share that this week. Awesome. Wrong-footed.

When my friend's daughter refused to wear shoes on the right feet, they felt good turned against the arches. My friend let her choose her way, because why argue with what a child feels? Our parents wouldn't have heard it. No child of theirs walks in splayed shoes like a damn clown. She may be a genius who sees through us isn't how they thought. Friends too stood on watch to catch us at any wayward weirdness, mocking our failures, because they loved us. Our kids now see how hard it is for us to know ourselves, not feeling what we feel.

we go on doubting our lives we have to this our chosen way of changing the world uh targeted hugely i think that was really great uh really i don't know a daily sort of thing for i don't know me personally i guess as a parent uh that's what i'm sure everyone that's what felt so apt about it to me. It felt like such a precise way to kind of speak to the experience of parenting right now, which is that you are trying to give space for your children to be individuals. Yeah. But also kind of pay respect to the way that you were parented and this understanding of like that you shouldn't give in too much and that that's not how it would have been done when you were a kid.

Right. But also you recognize like that there's something kind of delightful and exciting about letting your child kind of be who they are from the very beginning. I think there's a million, billion ways to interpret sort of that poem. Yeah, 100%. I am, and I think it's probably like speaks to the poem's efficacy and deafness that I am sitting here saying like, well, if one of my kids did. did try to leave the house wearing their shoes on the wrong feet, I would probably stop them. But that's not because, like, you guys are being weird as much as it's, you're going to have, like, blisters.

You're going to fall. Or you'll fall. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think it gets at something. And I don't know. That was the thing with this poem was that I, like, read it, enjoyed it, walked away, thought about doing a different poem. And then kind of kept returning to it because I really liked that example as kind of like a testimony just to that kind of experience. But yeah, again, this is a poet I couldn't find a lot about. He is, again, I mentioned he's teaching in Indiana University. He was a Fulbright fellow in Hong Kong 2009 to 2010, a visiting professor in France in 2012 to 2013. He co-directed the London Paris program. And then later the Japan, Hong Kong summer overseas program at Indiana University.

It really, I don't, obviously, I'm pretty far removed from that world. It seems like you would publish a book or two. I know. With that body of work. I know. There's probably reasons for it. He has published research because he teaches and studies Shakespearean drama. Cool.

Oh, Jesus. Medieval literature. 18th century autobiography. Okay, you're more plugged into this world than I am. That's a lot of different stuff, right? It's a lot of different stuff. I mean, that's cool. Teaching at a public university, like, you're going to teach a lot of different courses in the space.

It's not like a private university where you kind of specialize and you do a lot of research and then you kind of, you know, like you have your one thing that you teach and every semester you teach the one thing that you teach, you know. Yeah, I don't know. He said on his bio that he in his younger years worked at an amusement park, a hardware store, a drugstore warehouse, a printer assistant, and as a material specialist at a shoe company. But then when he graduated college, she won the Academy of American Poets Prize. And then he got a doctorate in English literature from the University of California, Irvine. So yeah, he just kind of seems like somebody who doesn't entirely want to settle in. any particular area. And maybe teaching and traveling is his passion and he doesn't want to really like run the

race of trying to put a whole book together and get published. I don't know. But yeah, I just found that poem like, I don't know. It really sucked me in. Yeah, it's going to stick with me for sure. What was the, what was the name of the account that is posting these little, these little poems? So it's read a little poem. And every day they put up a new poem just as kind of like a little PDF image.

And it's, you know, like enough to fit on kind of one screen, which is kind of perfect for the poetry corner. Because usually I'm looking for something brief that I can read on air. That's awesome. Yeah, I loved it. Can I steal you away? Yes. Cool. Had some real heartbreakers in prepping for this segment.

Two different times. I had gotten like halfway through prepping a thing. before realizing I had done it on the show before. No, no. I was going to do specifically the synth riff in the Doobie Brothers, What a Fool Believes. The boop, boom, bab, boom, bab, bo, fap. And if me doing that with my mouth sounded familiar,

it's because I did just What a Fool believes as like a whole segment. Okay, yeah. I forget what the other one was, but I started to do this, what I'm about to do, and I was like, I'm going to search wonderful. FYI, just make sure. And it popped up into, like, a control-f search. but it turns out, so today I'm talking about dragons.

I have talked about dungeons and dragons. Today, we're going to really dial in on the dragons part of things. I don't think I talk too much about the archetypical dragon, but that is what I'm I mean, I don't know a lot about dungeons and dragons, but as I understand it, when you are playing the game, it's not all dragons all the time. No, in fact, I would say we've gone entire campaigns without, you know, a single dragon in it. think we've had a dragon in Taz Royale yet this is what we're doing right now, this moment, which you can listen to every other Thursday on maximum fund.org or wherever you get your podcast.

I'm kind of interested in the idea, the archetype of dragons and how just across countless cultures throughout time and space have come up with dragons. Yeah. They look kind of different sometimes, and they have sort of different stuff about them. but that like basically every civilization, uh, in the world has kind of their form of dragons. It's kind of, I mean, the way I've always kind of seen it is like, uh, like dinosaurs with some tweaks. So, I'll get into that because there is definitely, first of all, if you talk to my middle brother, Travis, he will talk your whole ear off about that very subject about how dinosaurs were dragons and like I really truly do not want to get into it. Wait, Travis has an extensive opinion about something that has no impact on day-to-day life?

Yes. Okay. But just this one. Just this one thing. On Macroy Family Clubhouse, which, by the way, we are now going to be doing as a monthly show last Tuesday of every month. We're going to be hitting just our best segments and the rest of the time we're going to be doing like gaming streams multiple times a week. Macroy Family is the YouTube account where you can go, I'm plugging a lot of shit. A lot of plugs on this one.

But in Macroy Family Clubhouse, we had a segment. called Energy's Dragon, where dad dressed as a wizard would appear and say, Energy's Dragon, the Energy's Dragon, whenever the energy for the show is Dragon, and we would then rank dragons, right? And that really drove home to me how ubiquitous these guys are, right? You got your sort of... Well, ubiquitous. Ubitious, I would say, absolutely.

If you think about folklore on a global scale, they're absolutely ubiquitous. They're fucking everywhere, man. Let me make my case. So you have kind of the Western civilization, traditional kind of winged, horned, fire breathing kind of big monster that you would get from, you know, European medieval fantasy, every fantasy video game ever made your smogs, your Maleficent, all that jazz, right? And then in the sort of Eastern cultures, your kind of wingless, flightless, four-legged sort of big ass serpents who are less kind of like inherently malicious and evil and more like kind of wise deity sort of energy. And if you lump those two kind of broad definitions together, you are finding dragons in like art from ancient Mesopotamia, Egyptian mythology.

the Leviathan from the Bible, the Hydra from Greek mythology. In Albania, they have the Colchedra. There's the Quetzal Kodal from Aztec mythology, Nidhaw and like five other different dragons from Norse mythology. Japanese mythology has a bunch, Ryugin is one from Japanese mythology. Just everyone's got dragons. Yeah, I wonder, I mean, is the idea that maybe they found some like dinosaur bones? So yes, there are two kind of prevailing theories. There is no like locked in like, oh, and this is why there are dragons, but there are a couple of theories as to why, you know, these different civilizations without much connective tissue and these historical periods, you know, vastly apart from each other in time, came up with dragons sort of independently.

So in 2000, the year 2000, there were two books published on this very subject kind of detailing these two like theories. I don't know why. Oh, I bet those two authors, man. Yeah, it was a real deep impact Armageddon situation. By the way, I've been getting fucking nonstop clips from the movie Deep Impact with Tea Leone in my, in my feeds. And I don't know what I did to unlock that algorithm. That does not happen to me.

Today I got the one with fucking Elijah Wood and Lili Sobieski. And I know their name's pretty good. I mean, I know Elijah Wood's name because come on. but because I keep seeing ads for fucking, not ads, but clips from Deep Impact riding his motorbike up the hill trying to get away from the big wave. I've never seen Deep Impact. I liked it better than Armageddon and I was fucking chastised harshly for that opinion. I don't know that that opinion holds up, but the clips that I've been getting nonstop

have been quite enjoyable. Anyway, two theories. Two theories. First book was written by an anthropologist named David E. Jones. It's called An Instinct for Dragons. Actually, I'm going to start with the other one because it kind of like touches on your idea. It's called the first fossil hunters, dinosaurs, mammoths, and myth in Greek and Roman times, which was written by a historian and a folklorist named Adrian Mayer. And her argument is that, you know, the solution for this question of why is everyone got dragons comes down to a field called geomythology, which is basically, yes, there are parts of the world where there are huge fossil beds where people.

pre-science found fossils and the dragon mythology is kind of what came out of them not really knowing what was going on with these giant bones. And not just dinosaurs, right? Like in ancient Mesopotamia or the Mediterranean region, there were, you know, these extinct giraffe fossils, like giraffe predecessor fossils that were found that became, you know, some, some dragons from their folklore. But then like, throughout a lot of China, there is like huge fossil beds and there is a lot of dragon folklore that came out of China. The Himalayas have these like entire sort of strata of fossil beds. And you get a lot of, you know, dragons of kind of like Indian legend sort of from that region. So that's sort of one theory. It is not very foolproof and that is partially because like Scandinavia doesn't have a of fossil beds. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But they have a ton of dragons. Scandinavia also doesn't have like gila monsters and Komodo dragons and like big actual living reptiles that would also become sort of interpreted in this like dragon lore. So like why do they have that stuff? The other theory is, uh, is from that other book I mentioned, an instinct for dragons written by David E. Jones. He's an anthropologist. Uh, and his argument is that human beings possess a sort of instinct.

instinctive, like, genetic level fear of snakes. There is a study that he quotes that claims about four out of every 10 adults and, like, far more prominently, kids are afraid of snakes, even if they live in an area where snakes are not sort of local. The argument there is that, like, reptiles used to hunt our mammalian ancestors. Okay. And so we are ingrained with this sort of natural phobia of them. He also sort of supports that theory by saying like in fiction, dragon dens are usually, quote, dark caves, deep pools, wild mountain reaches, sea bottoms and haunted forests, all of which are kind of like biomes that would be very dangerous for a human being in real life to like go exploring. But dragons don't look like snakes. Well, in Eastern sort of folklore, they, you know, they are, yeah, yeah, the like the flying, the, like the, I mean, the most famous sort of example is like the luck dragon.

Yeah, like the Chinese, like New Year kind of dragon. Yeah, you have your, you know, Mushu from Mulan is sort of that sort of vibe. Yeah, kind of long and snaky. Yeah, right. Like, so that, that's like the more Eastern archetype of dragon, right? no one quite really knows because like again dragons have existed in like so many different cultures and so being able to like pin down what the first one was or how it spread if it spread if it has a natural sort of origin if it has a what was the word geomorphological origin yeah no one is really quite sure I think that's very very interesting

I also think it's interesting how like, I don't know, there are entire genres where it's kind of normal for a dragon to be like the final obstacle. Yeah. If you play a lot of games, you're going to hit a dragon here and there. There are a few campaigns, D&D campaigns that do in fact end with a showdown with a big dragon. It's the fire breathing thing that's wild to me. Yeah, that kind of comes out of left field, doesn't I? Like the wings and the big tail, like, all of that has precedent. But like, what, where would the fire breathing come from?

Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. That's not in every flavor of dragon, right? True, true. You get to your, you know, Nidhog, I don't think, was a fire breathing dragon. He was just a big, big, big, big, big, big, weirm. So, I don't know. Anyway, I just think dragons are interesting.

I'm not like going to go marry a dragon. whatever. So like, I don't know who said that. But I think I always am fascinated by when different cultures have different sort of versions of a similar thing. Yeah, that's the kind of thing that I would love to sit in a lecture hall for like a semester and just learn about dragons throughout history. I mean, I'd love to see David E. Jones and Adrian Mayer go amp v. Amp. Sort of in one lecture hall, kind of debating where dragons come on. Just these like satisfied smug laughs when one of them makes a point. Like, oh, interesting, you would bring that up. But in 17, and they'd be like, yeah, 1717, I know what you're going to say. We've had this conversation a hundred thousand

times. But in 12, 12, oh, don't even start with 1212. We all, everyone goes back to 12. The bone, big bone find of 1212. Do you want to know what our friends at home are talking about? Yes. Chris says, my wonderful thing is having a cup of hot chocolate in the morning with whipped cream and cinnamon sugar. The little extra touches make my cold winter morning special. and are the perfect comfort right after I come in from walking the dog. Oh, I like that. I like hot chocolate as kind of like a little dessert. Yeah, but the idea of it as a morning time booster is cool.

I know. Micah, or perhaps Mika, I'm going to say Mika, says, My Wonderful Thing is Restaurants and Cafes with Walk Up Windows. There's a great local Burger Shack, not far off my usual dog walking route, and the fact that I can go to, I can decide to go get breakfast while walking my dog without having to tire up outside while I order is really great. Bonus wonder, the lady who works the breakfast shift has also won my dog's affection via a free piece of bacon for her with my order.

That's good stuff. That was like a thing in Austin. Yes. You don't really see that in D.C. Well, we don't really live in a neighborhood of D.C. that could possibly really sustain. True, because you need like a space basically for a drive-through if you're going to do something like that. Hey, folks, thank you so much for listening to our show. Thank you to Bowen and Augustus for the use of our theme song, Money Won't Pay.

We find a link to that in the episode description. Thank you to Maximum Fun, as always, for having us on the network. Go to Maximumfund.org. Check out all the stuff they've got going on over there. If you're listening to this, the day it comes out, Wednesday, the 14th, I'm going to be streaming tomorrow on the Macroy Family YouTube channel, the new Animal Crossing content. Do you get your island ready? It's almost at five stars. Okay.

But I have a lot of work to do over the next two days. Griffin had to start over. I had to start over for our boy, to play with our boy, because my eyes. Island was so far beyond him that it was tough to really hang. But it'll be good and you can come hang out. Do you want to say what your island's called? It's called Whizberry. Henry's Island's called Pooh Route.

So I wanted something that was like... Whizberry is really strong. Thank you so much, my love. I like it. Anyway, we're going to be streaming that and just genuinely doing a lot more gaming stuff over at our YouTube channel. You can find it all. We've got a sort of subheader called the Macroy Entertainment System.

There's a whole Instagram account you can follow. That's just going to be our gaming stuff. We're going to be streaming a lot of that moving on, moving forward. The Griffin's kind of a gamer. I'm kind of a gamer. We got some new merch over at the merch store, Macroymerch.com that you can go and check totally out. There's a Bestie's Tiebreaker coin featuring New York Giraff. 10% of all of our merch proceeds this month will be donated to Immigrant Defenders Law Center.

All that is over at Macroymerch.com. Thank you so much for listening. Just final check in on couch. You vibe in or? I think it's going to work okay. Okay. I think I feel more like you are my superior than before. Is it because I'm sitting up too high?

And my chair might be up too high. I think I'm going to need my own desk and series of monitors. Jesus Christ. And then then it'll be fine. My seat doesn't go look. So I might have to get you a donut. A special donut. That'll make me feel like a peer.

That'll make you feel like... I'm not going to make you sit on a donut. Thank you, honey. Bye, everybody. Maximum Fun. A Worker Own Network of Artist-owned shows. Supported directly by you.