Wonderful! - Wonderful! 413: In Thickness and In Health

Episode Date: April 8, 2026

Rachel's favorite fancy utility accessory! Griffin's favorite discovery not yet ruined by the algorithm! Music: “Money Won’t Pay” by bo en and Augustus – https://open.spotify.com/album/7n6zRzT...rGPIHt0kRvmWoya Marsha P. Johnson Institute: https://marshap.org/

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Starting point is 00:00:10 Hi, this is Rachel McElroy. Hello, this is Griffin McElroy. And this is wonderful. Welcome to Wonderful. This is a podcast where we talk about things we like that's good that we're into. And, you know, spring is sprung and we're all, we've sproyinged ourselves. And it's a time for growth and new life revival. I don't think people need this.
Starting point is 00:00:41 You know what? I think you're right. I think the first order of the first thing. we can clean up for the spring cleaning Honda sales event is this beleaguered introduction, this long-winded, completely unnecessary introduction. People come here for two things. One, just to be near our romance, just the vibes of our romance to be sort of party to that is, tastemaker. I have heard an enriching experience. I personally think it is, but I'm one of the members of the romance. And so, of course, it's enriching for me. The other thing,
Starting point is 00:01:16 is the tastemaker thing. Yeah. They do not come here for me, almost always, kind of bloviating about whatever the fuck. And you know what's sad? What is sad? I don't know if people realize this.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Like, peek behind the Macquarie curtain. Sometimes we'll start over. Oh, yeah. Sometimes it becomes very clear like you've started recording and you don't have a thing. Right. And you'll be like, that's nothing.
Starting point is 00:01:41 And we'll start over. And I don't think people need a thing. I don't think people need a thing, no. A lot of shows just start. What gets me, what gets me is that I do prep for this show. Except for that part. I do prep for this show. It's like the small wonders.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Like, I still don't prep small wonders. No, the small wonders, a thing we have done, every episode, all 400, however many episodes we've done, always catches me by surprise. Oh, yeah. And in fact, Jump Scare, what's your small wonder this week, my love? I've got an easy one and I'm hoping you don't yonke it. Okay. I'm not going to because I'm thinking right now. So a while ago off Etsy, I got a little sign that is based on the good place and it says, welcome, everything is fine.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Yeah. And today my therapist noticed it in the background and she was so excited. Oh. And I just thought like, this is nice. I love a kindred spirit moment. Yeah, especially with somebody who you have like a professional relationship. Sure. Therapists typically don't reveal much personal about themselves.
Starting point is 00:02:52 You know, like there's not a lot of like knowing your therapist outside of therapy. Yeah. And so it was just kind of fun to know, oh, she likes that show. And of course she does. It's a great show. Beyond this relationship, this professional relationship, we are the same. That helps, that helps me out a lot too. I took Henry to the orthodontist today and the person working at the desk.
Starting point is 00:03:12 had a mug that was covered in Pokemon stickers. And it really set something ablaze in Henry and made him feel a lot more at ease. So much so that now I'm wondering if that's like part of the deal. I mean, that's why pediatricians have like fun offices. Yeah, that's true. You know, I don't know. You go to a kid-friendly office for a reason.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Yeah, sure. Can I ask, I've never asked you this in front of Henry because I don't want to put him on blast. how is his Pokemon retention? Oh, it's insane. Is he Griffin-Macroy level? You have to keep in mind, honey.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Like, Pokemon came out in the States in 1999, I want to say. You have to keep that in mind. You must bear this in mind. It came out in the States around then. So, like, I was, and I was like maybe a year behind. So I was like probably 11 years old when I started playing Pokemon. Henry played his first Pokemon game. Pokemon, let's go Pikachu.
Starting point is 00:04:09 They like four? When he was four, yeah. So like already my man has like, because those are really formative years. We've basically been Suzuki method training our son in Pokemon. And it's beyond now just the games like he's read almost all of the like official Pokemon adventures manga. It's like pretty deep in. So much so that when I read the manga to him, he is correcting my pronunciations.
Starting point is 00:04:37 He is correcting my, which is wild, right? because it's like you're not hearing people say those names out loud either. On YouTube, YouTubers. Yeah, I guess so. Not that they would know for sure. But he asked me a lot of questions. Like,
Starting point is 00:04:50 if you could have a Pokemon for a pet. Yeah. Which Pokemon would you want? You know, and I almost always say Bedouf, just because he's such a cute little guy. I love that answer, babe. I love Bedouf as an answer.
Starting point is 00:05:03 He's such a cute little guy. But I don't think Henry realizes that's like one of, I mean, I know a fair amount at this point. You do. Like one of maybe 12 that I know. And I'm wondering kind of like, is he like in the 100 level? Oh, yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:05:18 I think there's about a thousand of these bad boys. Wow. Yeah. So, yeah, he knows a lot. I mean, that could be my small wonder right there. I thought that was going to be your small wonder. Just that. I mean, I was just going to talk about how Robert Thomas, after a sort of disappointing season,
Starting point is 00:05:33 scored a hat trick against the number one ranked Colorado Avalanche last night to win. A hugely important, hugely vital game, three to two. You watched all those, like, because it was a late game. It was a late game. I was staying up anyways and had the game on. And it was so stressful because they're basically at a place now. I mean, when this episode comes out, the die may have been cast, but it's like, if they're going to make the playoffs, they need to win every game and, like, they need the predators
Starting point is 00:06:06 to lose every game. Like, it's, like, pretty dicey. I think they're three points back with six games remaining. So, like, it's not completely impossible, but it was way more impossible before they beat the Colorado Avalanche last night, who are number one, I think, in the whole league and, like, favorites to win the Stanley Cup. Well, they're number one in the Western Conference. I don't know about the other conference.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Yeah, that was incredible, incredible. Robert Thomas is, like, has been kind of the de facto backup captain type guy, I feel like for a couple of seasons now. And when Braden Shen was traded, there was a lot of talk about like, okay, Robert Thomas, it's time to step up. But Jake Neighbors also really wants it. He's stepping up in a major fucking way. And Robert Thomas hadn't been able to really, I don't know, get there.
Starting point is 00:06:55 But now he's like, he's getting a sis every game and then he got a fucking hat trick. It's the chemistry, man. Yeah. The thing, and this has always been true with the St. Louis blues since I've been watching, if they lose a game, the kind of the first order of business is to change up the lines. Yeah. Like, okay, well, now you're going to go on the ice with these guys and maybe that'll make the difference. And I just feel like Thomas and Snuggrood and Holloway.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Yeah, dude. Like, they're all such like fast thinkers and like, and real savvy on like. Really different discipline. Like Snuggrood and Holloway are young, young blood like fast as fuck. Like really, really, really talented. guys and Thomas is too, but like he hasn't been on a line like that in a while. Great game, great game. They're playing the avalanche again tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:07:46 I know. Not loving that. No. Because again, if they lose any of these games, that's it. We've sort of become, I don't know, I've accepted the fate. It's out of our hands at this point. I know. It's, I mean, it's always out of our hands because neither of us are players on the St.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Louis Blues hockey club. Yeah. There's very little we can do, you know, above and beyond. No matter what merchandise we wear. in what order on top of, like, which appendage. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. But hockey's so fucking good.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Hockey's so great. Even when the team's not doing great, it's, I think it's just the best game. The net is so tiny. The net is so tiny. It's so hard and it's the most exhausting thing to do ever that humans have come up with. Even if you're an incredible ice skater, you will, like, slip and fall. A lot. Every game.
Starting point is 00:08:32 Every game you do. But you get back up. Sometimes they fight. And the reason that they fight. fight is to just kind of like change the vibe. Truly, not a joke. They fight to change the vibes all off. Let's fight.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Or yeah. Or like the crowd has like lost interest or we're losing them and they get so much momentum from the crowd that they will like try and do something to make the crowd cheer so they can all feel the vibes again. This is our annual sales pitch for hockey coming up here just before the playoff break. Y'all like even if the blues don't make it, playoff hockey is so great. It's like the Olympics. If you have a team that is near you.
Starting point is 00:09:07 that is going to make the playoffs. Watch one of those games, man. It's the best hockey. It truly is on a whole other level when it's playoffs time. And I will say the announcers are always so thoughtful about explaining what is happening. Yeah. Like unlike football, which I feel like I can't really watch because no one really tells me what's going on. I feel like the announcers in hockey are always like, let me show you why that was offside.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Let me tell you about that penalty because they know, like their audience is confused. I especially think after, honestly, after heated rivalry, I would be surprised if they weren't banging that drama a little bit louder even of like, hey, welcome new newcomers. Hey guys. After somebody scores a goal, they all hug each other. And that's basically heated rivalry. More or less, yeah. Okay, you go first this week. My thing.
Starting point is 00:09:56 So here's a confession. Sometimes when I'm trying to come up with a topic, I will just spend some time in the 90s. Oh, sure. trying to tap into that nostalgia because, you know, that's like a wonderful thing in itself. Yeah. I understand the problems with nostalgia. But when you're doing a weekly show. Sometimes there's the, sometimes the current stuff isn't so good.
Starting point is 00:10:18 And so you need to go back to a simpler, better time, which was the 1990s. Better from our perspective. Yeah, sure. Probably not. I don't even think that's true, man. I think I'm probably pound for pound happier now that I was from the years 1990 to 1999. Because Pokemon came out in 1999.
Starting point is 00:10:38 I had to spend that whole fucking decade. Just a man without a, without a, uh, a, uh, a, uh, a, what was your thing? Church. Yeah. Then I supplemented that with Mr. Mime. Um, my wonderful thing this week is, uh, novelty landline phones. Novelty landline phones.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Yes. Oh, babe. That's a fucking banger. That's so good. We had a football phone. Okay, this is what I was going to ask. I know you're going to talk about the football phone. I don't want to spoil it.
Starting point is 00:11:11 No, I'm not really going to talk about the football phone. Oh, I'll talk about the football phone. It was a phone in the shape of football. And I do think it was part of some like sports illustrator. If you subscribe to Sports Illustrated, I believe you got the football phone. Because I know a lot of people who have the fucking football phone. I had one of the other popular novelty phones, which was the clear phone where you could see all the little insides. I don't even think that's not.
Starting point is 00:11:33 To me, that's just cool. That's like cyberpunk, cyberdeck, cool shit. I found this, like, chart that lists all the, like, famous phones through, like, television and film. I'm getting Burger Phone. Burger Phone is from Juno. Juno. I know, because I was remembering Burger Phone, too. And I was like, where did I see that?
Starting point is 00:11:52 Juno. The clear phone, Clarissa explains all. I was just thinking Clarissa had one, too. But that's the clear one. Okay. I didn't understand kind of why they became so popular, specifically in that time period. You know, like, why all the sudden novelty phones? Like, obviously, like, media properties and 80s and 90s, like, there was a real youth culture movement, but, like, why then?
Starting point is 00:12:19 I didn't realize that until the early 80s, many customers had to rent their phones from 18 and T. That's wild. There was a big monopoly breakup of AT&T in 1982. Which was the last time a monopoly was broken. That might actually be true. I said that as a joke, but it may very well be true. There's a lot you can look into about that. I became really curious about it, but like, can you imagine, sorry to interrupt, but can you imagine today if the government would be like, this company too big and successful, got a samanour? them up. No. Now they're like, you can't do that. The company is a person and that's murder. You can't mark, you can't chop up a person, you fucking weirdo. They tried to do that recently with Google, didn't they?
Starting point is 00:13:09 I think so. Don't remember it going so great, but. Anyway, so, and if you think about it, this is kind of what cable boxes are like. Sure, or modems now still. But in many states, AT&T would only rent phones to customers. In the early 1980s, the rental fee was about a dollar $1.50 to about $5 per month. And you would get like a basic phone with that plan, kind of like a cable box. Yeah. And then in 1982, you know, all the sudden, AT&T is not regulating like who. All of the phone. Yeah. Yeah. There was an interview with a former CEO of Conair, which was the company that made the clear phone. And he said in the interview, quote, in the phone.
Starting point is 00:13:58 phone business, you have to understand that after phones were deregulated, the industry went from one company being our phone supplier to two years later. There were over 300 companies supplying telephones. That's very cool. And also like, I don't know, I feel like the extent to which that hasn't, I know this is not the point of your segment, but the extent to which that has not happened for cell phones or internet, sort of just being run by like five different companies is, is wild. So at that point, AT&T sort of gave everyone the foes, and then after that point, you could buy
Starting point is 00:14:34 your own. Yeah, like there was nothing stopping anybody else from making a phone and just selling it anywhere. Okay, that's interesting. Yeah, so that explains why in the 80s and 90s, you saw the Garfield phone. The Garfield phone. Have you not seen the Garfield? Show me the picture of the Garfield. That
Starting point is 00:14:50 just looks like Garfield and Repose, and he is sitting, he's a, like he's basking in the sunlight. When you picked up the phone? His eyes open. His eyes open. I love that. That's a strong phone. I'd like that.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Yeah. A lot of these you can get me that. A lot of these. Please. Babe. It's my birthday. My birthday is coming up soon and I want a Garfield phone. We don't have a landline, honey.
Starting point is 00:15:13 What would it do? Sit in the background of my shot and look cute. It would look really cute. It's rare to see a cute Garfield. A lot of people think of them as like a trickster or a stinker or a layabout. but in that phone he looks pretty cute actually which is rare it's a rare cute Garfield you can apparently you can get it on Etsy right now for close to $300 that's too much for me for my blood um another phone I didn't know about was the Bart Simpson phone now that's Bart Simpson that's just Bart Simpson and
Starting point is 00:15:47 it looks like he's got a phone cord coming out of his butt what's his his eyes glow red um when it's in use where's the receiver I didn't see the hands the handset part of that phone Is it not pictured? Does he just kind of hold it in his hands? That's a really good question. How does that work? Does his fucking head pop off and you just talk into it? Like an old tiny rotary phone?
Starting point is 00:16:07 Let me see if I can find that out right now. I didn't think about like how that would actually work. I need a video or an animated gif of the Bart Simpson phone in action being deployed. His back opens up. His back. Look at that. His back just opens up and there's numbers back there. And there's like a little speaker in his head.
Starting point is 00:16:27 There's a speaker. speaker in his head. And you would listen, I guess. You'd talk into his butt, guys. And you'd hold up the whole Bart Simpson. You hold up the whole Bart Simpson. It does not look particularly ergonomic. That's crazy, man. The lighting on this one. That's awfully sinister, and that's only $20. So that one's, that one you can get for a song. Well, it probably doesn't work. Probably doesn't work. I mean, not that it would matter. Yeah, really. Cool. In case you're wondering, and I was immediately, was there an Alph phone. Because like we're talking time period. Alf was king. It was basically just a stuffed
Starting point is 00:17:05 animal with a phone attached to it. I don't like that. I don't like that one bit. So it's just like a regular phone. What a waste. And it looks like he's holding it up. Let me pry his big mouth open and let me use it as the as the whole handset. That's cool. I mean, I did that it's a great alf. The function the phone functionality does seem kind of tacked on. What a hazard to like plug something furry into the wall. Oh, hey, good point. Didn't even think about that. You have to imagine that got real hot and dangerous. So that's novelty phones. I love them. I really got the urge as I was looking. Man, I shouldn't say this. My dad's going to buy me a bunch. Uh-oh. I got the urge to have them. David, if you're grabbing them, man, if you see a Garfield phone out there for less than 300 bucks,
Starting point is 00:17:53 I don't want you to like blow your savings on it. In your backdrop? It would look so good. It would look really good. And then you could pretend like you were answering the phone sometimes. Yeah. I mean, it would be pretty good. But again, not for, I would feel so guilty. You know what I saw that made me think of your dad was that you used to be able to buy like a bat phone.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Oh, like a Batman phone? Yeah, but it was labeled like the bat phone. Okay, cool. So you could pretend like you were Batman. That's just a red phone with a sticker on it that says bat phone. It would be cool if they had a brown phone with a sticker that just said Alf on it. That's a strong phone too. This is an Alf phone.
Starting point is 00:18:31 It's great. Look at this Pac-Man one. How do you use that? I think you just open up his mouth and then you talk into him. Yeah, I guess so. I think that's what you do. What I'm looking at right now is an AOL.com 12 vintage novelty phones collectors website. I'd love to see.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Here's Cabbage Patch. She looks like one of those guards at Buckingham Palace. Yeah, not even really holding the receiver particularly. well, sort of draped over her arm in a way. I would love to see like a very polished Apple press conference where they do one of their like super detailed close up product shot videos for the new Alph phone. And it's just like zoom, just flying across his face, his deep black marbled eyes. Yeah, like a press conference.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Here's the thing. You can't like pull that out of your pocket and unveil it. No. You'd have to have somebody wheel it out on a cart. He would come down from the rafters like an Easter pageant. Amazing. Can I steal you away? Yes.
Starting point is 00:19:44 I have a musical artist to talk about this week that I am very excited to talk about. There is not a lot out there about this musical artist. How did you find this musical artist? I found Gina is the artist's name. J-E-N-A, not spelled, I don't know, I guess the more traditional Gina spelling in my mind. It's J-E-E-N-A. I got recommended through Spotify. Not even from like a Spotify recommendation like playlist.
Starting point is 00:20:14 I do not even really click into those anymore because my art kids have so thoroughly just ravaged my algo. Just my algo is absolutely useless to anyone. So now like, I don't know, if you're on like the main page, it'll be like, here's an artist. Do you think what you think you'd like? and they put up a song by Gina about a year ago, I think. I found sort of one of her songs and then she has a new single out
Starting point is 00:20:40 just like a month ago that I can't stop listening to. Is it the second one you sent me? No, it's the first. It is flood. I really like the second one. I love them both. So Gina is a Korean singer-songwriter
Starting point is 00:20:54 slash actor-skinned care company CEO which is a wild combination of careers. That's on par. I feel like a lot of artists now have skin care. Yeah. Yeah, I guess so. She wears a lot of hats, which I always admire as a multiple hat wearer myself.
Starting point is 00:21:15 Should I be a skincare CEO? I do take it fairly seriously. Yeah. I mean, what would you make? Creams. Let's not get sidetracked. Gina only has. only has like four singles and a four-track EP out there.
Starting point is 00:21:34 So joining the bandwagon now really gets you in on the ground floor. I wasn't able to find a ton of stuff about her. One, because like fairly early in her musical career. But number two is because like some of the work that she has done has been like performances for Korean television, which is just because of kind of the language barrier, difficult to get the search results you want.
Starting point is 00:21:57 So anyway, I'll play a little bit of flood, the new single that just came out a month ago here. It rules. Here's a bit of it right now. I've listened to this song a lot in the last month, and I think part of it is, one, I think it rips, but two, it has so many different elements that I find, like, kind of nostalgic in a way. Like, it reminded me of a few different things, and it took me a long time to kind of put my finger on it. It's got this like chunky, syncopated kind of guitar running under the whole thing that really gives it a, and tell me if this comparison is like way too wild, but kind of a Dunkin' Sheik
Starting point is 00:23:12 vibe. Kind of that like, um, uh, I don't think I thought of that. It hit me like a kind of, it sounded almost like the opening musical number of like a spring awakening or something like that, which I, uh, maybe, what was the Duncan Sheik song? Uh, was it barely breathing? Was that Duncan Sheik? Oh, that sounds right. Anyway, maybe I'm wildly off base. But I don't know, the guitars sound so like fuzzy and crunchy, which I always really enjoy. I mean, to me, it was reminding me of, hmm, kind of like a snail mail.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Okay, interesting. Her voice is like crazy powerful, crazy range, very brassy. And again, like, it was something that felt like, I realize it's maybe ghost to just sort of like talk. about a musical artist or any artist just through comparisons. But I, for whatever reason, this is how I received the song. It became like a mystery where I was like, gosh, she sounds so much. And what I came up with was like a non-twangy Shania Twain. Like if you had Shania Twain and she didn't have like an accent, then that would be, I don't know, it just has big pop singer 90s kind of energy. Yeah, I definitely got the 90s like, because it yeah, it just reminded me of
Starting point is 00:24:27 like soccer mommy and snail mail and like those kind of grungy lady bands. Yeah. So I don't know. I think the song is just so insanely catchy and has just been in the rotation nonstop. Her history has been kind of tough to piece together. Here's what I've got. She's born in Seoul, South Korea, came to the States, I believe, to attend UC Berkeley to study acting and business administration. The latter track was, I think, more immediately useful. because during the pandemic, she moved back to Seoul for a while and founded a Gen Z-Focus skincare brand
Starting point is 00:25:05 called Citiface that I was able to find more stuff about than her musical career. There's been a big surge of interest in Korean skincare here in the States. I believe it, right? Like, I feel like they're, I'm talking completely out of my ass here, but like the mask game was pretty strong over there before it was really even a thing over here.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Yeah. Well, and I think there's like there's a lack of regulation here in the U.S. That means sometimes the quality of our products are not as good. Yeah, sure. As in other places where they're more thoughtful about what they put in things. Yeah. The whole thing with the brand is like living in a city like Seoul or Los Angeles, like it is, it has an impact. on your skin just the kind of like, you know, ambient pollution and smog and what have you. And so this is a brand that's sort of about that. I haven't tried the skin care stuff, but the music is really, really good.
Starting point is 00:26:10 After she graduated from UC Berkeley in 22, she did some acting and voice acting performance stuff in South Korea. She was on a Korean reality singing competition show called Girls on Fire, which is a really really cool name. And it was a show about like, it was sort of a making the band, like building the band type thing, like trying to put together a five piece like female pop group in Korea. And there's like a 200 million won prize overall. She made top 24. I can't find any other details about the performance on this. But it sounds sort of, I don't know, it sounds familiar enough like a like an American Idol or making the band type thing. And then in November 2023, she started to put out music. She put out her first single called Ocean. which I think she's self-published. She has, according to, like, the notes on her music was published by a label called City Face Records. So I think it's all sort of independently owned and operated over there, which I like. But since then, just put out, again, four singles in an EP.
Starting point is 00:27:14 EP is called For What It's Worth, which is short but dense with bangers, one of which is Flourish, which is the song you really liked. What is it that you liked so much about Flourish? Just more more rock rock and roll to me. You are more rock. I'm a little more country and you're a little bit more rock and ball, I would say. It's great. Let's play a little bit of that just to bookend this segment. Here's a little bit of Gina's flourish.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Again, like so early. And I think these songs are really truly catchy as hell. And I have to imagine that she will be blowing up at some point. And maybe then I will be able to find an interview or like any other sort of details. But I've just really been so into, you know, this small handful of music that she has put out that I wanted other people to hear it too. You should text your music friends. I'll text my music friends. Sometimes they know about things that, you know, most people don't.
Starting point is 00:29:00 Maybe. Yeah, that's a good point. I'm glad I have music friends. You do have music friends. I do have music friends. It's really cool. Thank you. I do think it's cool to have music friends also.
Starting point is 00:29:10 So that's Gina, J-W-E-N-A. I want to talk also about what our friends at home are talking about. Yes. If I may. Max says, My Swal Wonder is finishing a dip and the dip vehicle at the same time. I've been going back and forth for months with getting new hummus, then getting new wheat thins,
Starting point is 00:29:26 then getting new hummus, etc. Today I finally got to the end of both at once and it rocked. That's really good. Yeah, you made a face and there was like a pause there as you were like... I was really thinking about it. Yeah, I could tell. I mean, here's the thing. With Griffin and I, if you get out a dip and a cracker, we will just absent-mindedly eat.
Starting point is 00:29:48 I'll house it. Forget it. Eat it until the dip is gone. Yeah. But I will say like normally when I sit down with a meal, like I really thoughtfully go around my plate so that I have a little bit of everything until the very end. Oh, that's good. But I don't do that with a dip.
Starting point is 00:30:02 No, you can't do that with a dip. I like this in a sort of micro scale when you like played out some chips and salsa for yourself and you get and it's just right. It's just right. You don't get it so like there's no more salsa and you have like three more chips or you finish the chips and there's like two tablespoons of salsa left and you're like, God damn it. What do I do now? I'm with you Max. That's a good one. Zosha says My Small Wonder is the power of letting a grimy dish soak. It's so awesome to look at a bowl with sauce cake onto it and think, man, that'll take forever to wash only for a minute full of warm water to make it easy, breezy.
Starting point is 00:30:34 You got to be so careful, Zosha. This is big with oatmeal. Huge with oatmeal. Like cereal and oatmeal, this is one of Griffin and I's big fights. It's okay. Sometimes he will eat a bowl of cereal or oatmeal, and he will not put water in the bowl after he does. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:54 And it'll sit in the sink, and the stuff in it will get so, so hard. Yeah. And I'm like, oh, if only he'd put water in it right after he put it in the sink. Yeah. But to the point of this listener, if you had water late, it still comes off. It still comes off, right? So why do we fight so bad about it, do you think? This show is in so many ways therapeutic.
Starting point is 00:31:21 I think it is. This show has saved our marriage more times than I can count. We have real problems. We have real shit, guys. The only place we can work them out. This is the only time we get to talk without our kids climbing on us. God, it's so true. So that is the hardest thing about the end of our day is Griffin and I will try and have a fraught conversation about what we accomplished and our children will not allow it.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Not allow it. Say they will not sit by idly and listen to us. They just start talking. They just start going. Middle of the combo. Griffin and I will be in the middle of discussing something. And then Henry will just shout out something that he saw on his iPad just as if he doesn't even hear us. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:03 It's wild. But again, I do think the crosstalk gene. is dominant. So that is, that's sort of just how things are going to. I have the opposite of that. No, I know. I've had to really learn how to talk when I am not invited to speak. Yeah, no, for sure.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Again, this show is just leaps and bounce, the growth on every front. Hey, thanks so much for listening. Thank you to Bowen and Augustus for the use of our theme song, Money Won't Pay. You find a link to that in the episode description. And thank you so much to Maximum Fun for having us on the network. Go over to Maximumfund.org. Check out all the great stuff they've got. out going on over there. Max Fun Drive's coming up very soon. We're going to have a bunch of
Starting point is 00:32:39 bonus content and rewards and all kinds of stuff coming down here in just a few weeks. So start getting pumped for that because I certainly am. Got some merch over in the Macquarie merch store, Macquariemerch.com. There's a Miggie prayer candle. There's a 20 make it stick, stickers. Sorry, I, Jesus Christ. Sometimes I like to paint sort of, just sort of illustrate what the work environment is like for me in my life, which is that I just opened up Slack, our sort of like group chat sort of thing that we use for comms, for comms. People I think are familiar with Slack. Okay, good. And just the first, I just clicked it because I was like, what else do we have in the Macquarie merch store? And instead, what I get is an enormous picture of Russ
Starting point is 00:33:25 Frustick's sunburnt foot. Just posted right in the Bessie Slack channel. It takes up the whole screen, his son burnt foot. How am I going to do the rest of the show now, now that I've seen that? You know? Macquariemerge.com is where you can go to you all. You could send, like, he could send that off thread in like a text. I mean, I don't know that you'd ever need to see it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:49 But if you're going to, like, let's keep it out of the workplace. Hey, also, the final Adventure Zone graphic novel comes out in just a few months now, and you can pre-order it at theadventurezonecom.com. we're going to be getting our copies like real soon. I'm very excited. I'm excited just to see the thickness of it. I'm excited to see the just the scale of this bad boy. It's going to be big.
Starting point is 00:34:15 It's going to be bigger than the Beatles. Things are really going to take off for us after this. In thickness, it's going to be bigger than the- In thickness and in health. There's something there, right? In thickness and in health. I mean, it's definitely a reality show ready. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:32 ready and package up. Could it be a pre-packaged podcast outro though? Like, in thickness and in health? Amen. Maximum Fun. A worker-owned network of artist-owned shows. Supported directly by you.

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