Wonderful! - Wonderful! 420: We Put in the Work to Make the Good Love

Episode Date: June 3, 2026

Griffin's favorite specifically-named viral music sensation! Rachel's favorite nostalgia television! Music: “Money Won’t Pay” by bo en and Augustus – https://open.spotify.com/album/7n6zRzTrGPI...Ht0kRvmWoya Lamda Legal: https://lambdalegal.org/ Help support this show and unlock bonus content! Become a member at https://maximumfun.org/joinwonderful

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Starting point is 00:00:10 Hi, this is Rachel McElroy. Hello, this is Griffin McElroy. And this is wonderful. Welcome to Wonderful. It's a podcast where we talk about things we like that's good that we're into. Could be anything. It's a surprise slime bag. Big flowy pants.
Starting point is 00:00:29 Whoa. You don't even know when they're going to come at you. You probably thought you had a good minute or two before we started talking about good stuff. But Rachel's out here. She's throwing fucking haymakers from the starting gun. I wanted to say it before I forgot it. That's awesome. That's my small wonder.
Starting point is 00:00:43 That's awesome. You've never done this before. I know. that's so cool you just like had the you folks you can see the moment the magic happens people I've never seen you have that inspiration strike and now we've captured it live on camera that's so exciting oh I've got another one oh shit um when you mentioned video um you know the little clips of the video clips of wonderful and everybody always says really nice things in the comments yeah they talk about how in love we are how in love we are it's like Yeah. It's true. Yeah. And I'm, I don't, I know the internet is a scary place, but it has really restored my faith in social media. Well, social media didn't do it. We put in the work to make the good love. No, I'm talking about the, we made the good love. And everybody else is talking about the comments. And I'm glad people are recognizing it. I just want credit to go where credit is due, which is us doing the work for the good love we make. I don't like that I didn't like it either We don't really say make love in this house
Starting point is 00:01:49 We don't We don't make love I don't want to finish the line Isn't that the line from 50 Shades of Gray When he's like I don't make love I F You saw this movie I did not see No I never did
Starting point is 00:02:03 I thought you went with like our friends Uh oh new bonus content I don't think I can't I saw Magic Mike 2 Yeah With friends in a theater I saw the notebook at somebody's house. Did you see a twilight?
Starting point is 00:02:16 One of the twilight? No, never seen a twilight. Okay. Maybe I imagine this. Anyway, my small wonder. Okay. My small wonder, I set that up. You caught me by surprise with your sneak attack.
Starting point is 00:02:28 I know. I'm sorry. I bought a new suite of virtual instruments called Omnisphere 3. I bought it while you were out of town. It was pretty expensive, but I was looking for some inspiration because I haven't been messing around. with some of my other VSTs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:45 And it's pretty crazy, man. There's like 70,000 fucking sounds on this thing. Why did you think it was important to say that you bought it while I was out of town? I think that the price of it, I don't know, when you weren't around, I felt like, buy a sneaky little virtual instrument.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Okay. I mean, it's ostensibly for work, but I haven't had the most time to do music for TAS lately, but also, like, I don't know, I've been struggling to to find sounds that excite me. And I, I realize that I like that sort of inspiration is jumping off point for, like, making a song. It's a business expense. So this is the one that, like, a lot of people were like, this is the big dog, this is the big dog leagues. What kind of sounds you got on there? Oh, man. There's got that one that's like,
Starting point is 00:03:34 and we got that one that's like, borgia, yo, yo, yo, you, and we got that's like, so, like, all the hits. Okay. All the big ones. No, it's like a sampler with, with like a bunch of sounds, but it's also, you know, a wave table oscillator with a lot of different capabilities. And so I barely understand what that means for what it is worth. All right. Sound makes different shapes on a wave. I do know that. Sometimes it's square and sometimes it's triangle.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Sometimes it's a saw. Are there any other circle waves? I don't think that's it. Oh, yeah, I've lost you. You're gone. Yeah, no. You just went to play a game on your phone while I was explaining. No, I was checking for a text message.
Starting point is 00:04:19 I feel like it's very probable that our five-year-old understands making music in the, you know, computer space more than I do. He's, I've seen him on garage band tweaking the attack value on a synth keyboard. And I've never felt prouder. Is it, Papa? this is a good jumping off point for my topic today. Okay. If I may. I'm really excited for this segment because I worked really hard on it.
Starting point is 00:04:51 By the time I finished prepping this segment, I had 15 Chrome tabs open on my computer. Wow. Okay. It was running hot. I would like to talk about Brazilian Fong. Wow. I bet you had to learn a lot. I did learn a lot.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Yeah. This may, this almost certainly is a thing where we are. Did you find out, is it said Fonk? I got everything you need, baby. Okay. Do you really think I would prep the segment without learning about that? I just wanted to get to that quickly because it seems important. It is very important.
Starting point is 00:05:22 This is something that is very big and very, very popular online, and it's probably much larger than we can really comprehend. So let me set the table sort of for folks who don't live with us immediately. Okay. Our little son fucking loves Brazilian funk. It's all he wants to listen to. He's been like into electronic music since he could like walk. He loves dancing and he loves music. He loves daft punk.
Starting point is 00:05:52 He loves justice. He loves Scrillx. He was the one who really started aggressively saying in our house, here comes the drop. Yeah, he's big into drops. And he's had like some like Rachel mentioned like he goofs around on Garage Man all the time. And we've gotten him all these little kids synths. and he's like really into it. But now, he sort of got into music, YouTube,
Starting point is 00:06:17 through that space watching like indie electronic artists. There's one called Beach Crimes that like we listen to a lot. Then they sort of show their work on making that music. And I think it was through that vector that he became obsessed with a genre of music that the internet calls Brazilian funk. And I guarantee, that's P-H-O-N-K. And I guarantee you if you do not recognize that term, you would recognize a few of the genre's sort of top hits from the trillion TikToks and
Starting point is 00:06:45 Instagram Reels and YouTube shorts on which they appear. To prove this fact, I will play a little bit of one of these songs. This one's called Montagem Shonata by a London-based artist named MXZI. And just on TikTok alone, this song has been used in over three million videos. three million individual videos not views individual videos utilize this song a note to our editor rachel don't turn it up very loud um because people might be listening like on their car speakers and i'll explain more about that uh shortly so there's a lot of recurring elements in the sort of Brazilian funk chart toppers that's a hard thing to get through um and even sort of like not knowing the the the the the the
Starting point is 00:07:55 width and depth of the space, just from our exposure to Brazilian funk and how much are someone's to only listen to it in the car, you can probably sort of work out what those recurring elements are, like the incredibly distorted sort of kick, kick drum and bass, the vocal samples and the sort of backbeat rhythms and that cowbell, that electronic sort of cowbell sound that's in like all of the songs. there is a lot of similarities between a lot of these sort of like big have blown up on social media Brazilian funk songs, which does as an English-speaking man who is not familiar with the Portuguese language, it does make it difficult to find the song that our son is requesting a lot of the time. Because he can say, he can try and like sing it. He's like, I want that one that's like, don't, don't, don't, don't.
Starting point is 00:08:49 That was almost soldier boy talent. It's hard to kind of like parse that. So this genre of music, Brazilian funk, is an extremely online sort of subcategory music. It traces its roots back to a bunch of different places. But I really do enjoy it. I do enjoy it on a few levels, primarily just because Gus loves it so much. And it provokes this wild dancing that is like my favorite thing ever. he cannot get enough of it.
Starting point is 00:09:22 But it also like, I think it very much scratches an itch in your brain of like, I want some heavy, I want that heavy shit. Brazilian font does deliver. I mean, dance music, there's always something really kind of magnetic about it, you know? Yeah. And this genre has like exploded on these social media sort of short form platforms. So they are designed to almost be like instant like like dopamine hit style stuff. And I think there's a lot of the.
Starting point is 00:09:50 I don't know, the composition of these songs that makes them kind of perfect for that. So here is a brief history of Brazilian funk. Okay. I want to thank Fader, who did a video charting the sort of origins of the genre a couple of years ago, because it is a lot. So we'll start with the Brazilian side of things of Brazilian funk. In the 80s, in the favelas of Rio, which is sort of the, like, more impoverished, like, hillside neighborhoods of the city where you get, like, a lot of sort of. incubation of arts and culture. DJs started to mix bass and synth from like Miami hip hop
Starting point is 00:10:29 records. Okay. In with like traditional Afro-Brazilian sort of percussion and rhythms. And this genre was called funk karaoke. It's still called funk karaoke. And that's where like, that's where you start to see like the DNA of Brazilian funk kind of take shape. There is a rhythm employed in funk karaoke called Tamborzhao, which is like a kind of fast-paced sort of swing beat that puts a lot of emphasis on the backbeat. That is like almost every Brazilian funk song has that kind of backbeat rhythm. There is a subgenre of funk karaoke that originated in Brazil called Funk Automotivo, which has a lot of the sort of fundamentals of funk karaoke,
Starting point is 00:11:17 but with super distorted, super crunchy, super nasty, like bass and beats, designed to rattle or blow out the speakers of one's automobile. Okay. So it is basically what the rest of the world calls Brazilian funk, but very few people living in Brazil, from what I could tell, I call it that. It is funk automotivo, and it existed there long before this sort of like, I don't know, this other subgenre of Brazilian funk sort of came about in the late 2010s or so. Funk Automotivo was very, very similar to this thing. So the Fonk designation, that's P-H-O-N-K, is like a misnomer in several different ways. Fonk, the genre, originally was a sort of subgenre of like lo-fi Memphis rap.
Starting point is 00:12:13 There's an artist named Space Ghost Purp who pioneered the Fonk space. And it's not that similar to like what you hear specifically from Brazilian Fonk. It had like sort of distortions and 90s hip-hop samples and these old sort of, what is it, 808 like drum machines. But it didn't sound too much like what the internet calls Fonk, right? If you search that term on Spotify or whatever, you find like, a million different sort of mostly remixes of different songs or genres done in this kind of like really distorted kind of crunchy style. That is a subgenre called Drift Fonk. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:12:56 Which came out of Russia and Ukraine and Belarus and other sort of Eastern European countries in the 2010s. You start to see that kind of blow up on on your sound clouds from DJs living in Eastern Europe largely. And that genre of drift funk, which then just sort of got shortened down to funk, even though that was already a thing, went sort of thermonuclear when folks started to use it in their short form videos, right? That is where you get those sort of like blown out bass lines is from drift funk. That's where you get that electronic cowbell sound, the chopped and screwed vocals. And then when some of those DJs started to incorporate elements of funk karaoke, the resulting music went sort of like hyper viral and was rebranded Brazilian funk. But it was not sort of,
Starting point is 00:13:45 funk did not birth Brazilian funk, right? Like this sound existed as far back as the 80s in in Brazil and had this one specific version of it that was super crunchy called Funk Automotivo. And then these other DJs who were like making this really crunchy, crunchy, mostly remix dance music in the 2010s in Eastern Europe started to incorporate some of those kind of rhythms and sounds from funk karaoke. And then it was called Brazilian funk, even though that's not exactly accurate. I would love, because what you're describing is really like a global like melting pot. And it makes me wish when I was working at World Market all those years ago and they would play
Starting point is 00:14:29 world music. Right. That this is what they played instead. Yeah. Oh, man. I mean, working in a big box retailer to Brazilian funk, that might be too much. sort of exposure. This was originally sort of like funk automotivo is like music that you would have blasting
Starting point is 00:14:46 on your car speakers while you, you know, drove through a street party or whatever in Rio de Janeiro. It was not as sort of, there is a sort of memetic element, I will say, to Brazilian funk, where it is because it is, it came from the internet in such a, I don't know, traceable way. Like there is a lot of kind of meme culture. and there are people who, you know, use this sort of drift funk genre as a sort of comedy vector, like making like a remix of the SpongeBob SquarePants theme or the fucking Thomas the Tank Engine theme song, but in this like really funky, nasty sort of vibrating style. That was not sort of a hallmark of funk automotivo.
Starting point is 00:15:32 But there is a thing, if you are looking at a list of like the most popular Brazilian funk tracks, a lot of them have this word Montagem, which means assembly. So basically, this was an element of funk karaoke where they would sample, you know, at parties. And in their sort of like remixes, they would take songs that did not have these like really, really heavy sort of Afro-Brazilian beats and rhythms and would put them together, would assemble them in that style. So that's where you get, if you search Montageam, you will find like another big. song is Montezim Hikari, which uses Japanese vocals, but has all of these different other. There's Montagem Sonic, which I think uses Sonic, the Hedgehog music, but puts like this sort of other element on top of it.
Starting point is 00:16:22 So like, it's cool. It's complicated, right? Because there is an element of the internet saying like, this is Brazilian. And there being a definite sort of pre-existing thing. it's basically kind of incorporating or appropriating, I guess, like a couple different things, both in the Brazilian side of things and the funk side of things to make this thing that isn't really what it's named. There's also a lot of people who are very annoyed by this type of music because it is.
Starting point is 00:16:53 If you just scroll through, I don't know if you're on any social media platforms where you scroll through short form videos ever, but if you do, you hear nonstop these tracks. Yeah, interesting. And I can see it growing a little long in the tooth, if that is the case. As music for our son to put on at night when we're trying to wear him out and just have him dance like a man possessed, you can do much, much worse. So that is Brazilian funk. It's a subgenre. I hope people at home are familiar with just from exposure to the internet, generally speaking.
Starting point is 00:17:25 But I didn't know anything about it, despite the fact that it's like on every other sort of. So it is funk. It is funk, which is originally funk, which came out of sort of like the Memphis rap scene. It was just, I mean, that was just a slang term for funk. Basically it. But it's not, I don't think it's that funky. Like, American funk has it's totally different. That's why I like appreciate the distinction.
Starting point is 00:17:54 So it's like, I don't know. The name is weird, but the music is pure, powerful. Can I steal you away? Yes. Are you ready? Oh, yeah. My wonderful thing this week is Saturday morning cartoons. All right, dude, one Saturday morning.
Starting point is 00:18:18 I know the Saturday morning cartoons exist. Do you know about one Saturday morning? No. I think it was ABC. It was like their shows. And they were all pretty bad, but they had like this packaging for, you know, ABC was all about like TGIF and like they like to package a bunch of shows together as one bigger product. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:36 I mean, oh, it's Disney. Disney. I did one Saturday morning. Oh, yeah. Maybe the, I mean, ABC. I didn't have Disney Channel as a kid. Wow, I really made myself out. I really sort of, I don't know, reveal myself as a one percenter, I guess.
Starting point is 00:18:52 People today probably don't understand. The difference like in your cable package or lack of cable. Yeah. Was like a real talking point among friends. Yeah. Because if you were going to go over to somebody's house, they either had like seven channels or a hundred. Yeah. I remember dad did like a remote or something for some cable company that had just moved to West Virginia and we got a box and for a year we had like all the shit.
Starting point is 00:19:19 All the shit. And just for a year though, they were not going to cover it past that. So I had Disney for a year or so. Yeah. But then we definitely did pay for it a bit because I had to have my one Saturday morning. Anyway, Saturday morning cartoons are great. So I have really fond memories of Saturday morning. cartoons. But I've mentioned this before. Like, I talked about Nickelodeon. Like, I love this
Starting point is 00:19:42 idea that the television, which I loved so much, had shows made just for me. Right. It was like a real, like, delightful, curated experience that I didn't usually experience when I had to watch 60 minutes with my parents. Drag them! You know they listen. Drag them, though. Read them for filth. 60 Minutes and Murder, she wrote. Now, granted, I liked both of those. Yeah. But I think it was because I didn't realize, hey, there's a whole world out there that's just for me. Yeah. You don't have to watch Andy Rooney yell at you.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Yell at you a lot. He was 60 minutes, right? Yeah. Oh, for sure. Okay. I didn't watch the show. But I do remember, I think that there's- Well, what did you talk about at school on Monday?
Starting point is 00:20:32 Pokemon. Yeah. Yeah. I'll get to Pokemon, by the way. Oh, yeah, for sure. A whole mark of it. So, cartoons were. basically relegated in the like 1950s to like movies.
Starting point is 00:20:49 When you went to the movie, they would show like a little cartoon. Yeah. Or prime time. Do you know like Flintstones and the Jetsons were like prime time cartoons? Yeah. That like blows my mind. Well, it had to be hard to make them.
Starting point is 00:21:04 I think that it read more as a sort of like animated sitcom. back then? Yeah. Which is where you get like a lot of the sort of laugh track sort of stuff from shows of that era. They didn't have another version of show to make. They just kind of animated I Love Lucy and called it a day. The first cartoon show designed specifically for Saturday morning was in 1949 called Crusader Rabbit. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:21:36 It was adventures of a rabbit and his tiger cycle. kick. Sort of a watership down situation. I will show you, I don't know if you can see it from that far. It has like a Rocky and Bullwinkle kind of style to it. But the little segments were like four minutes long. So it was just a bunch of those like piled on top of each other. But people hadn't at that point really thought about Saturday morning as like a like a hot rock block for kid viewers.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Yeah. But they had noticed that, like, in radio, the peak tune in hours for children were between 10 a.m. and noon on Saturday mornings and 4 p.m. to 6 p.m. on weekdays. So it was kind of like, it seemed like only a matter of time. Yeah, sure. And Saturday mornings. Crusader Rabbit wasn't really what jump started everything. One of the next things to show up in 1955 was Mighty Mouse. Oh, sure. Yeah. People love this guy. That ran for 12 seasons. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:44 It's just a strong mouse, huh? Just a strong mouse. Can he fly? I remember him flying. I only, honestly, if it were not for the Andy Kaufman bit, I don't think I would. I don't think I would know much about my needs. Yeah. And then we see Hannah and Barbera, who did, you know, Flintstones and the Jetsons really start to kind of,
Starting point is 00:23:08 expand their arsenal. Is that where you get my man, Top Cat? I don't know Top Cat. I think Top Cat's Hannah Barbera, Amy? Yes. Top Cat. What is that? It's an animated sitcom produced by Hannah Barbera Productions and broadcasts on the ABC Network.
Starting point is 00:23:29 I don't think it made it very long. Yeah, one season, 30 episodes. You had to be there. Okay. You had to be there in 1961. What is it about, though? Just a fucking cool cat, man. Cats were real big for a while there, huh?
Starting point is 00:23:43 Yeah, for sure. Top Cat is the leader of a gang of Manhattan Alley Cats living in Hogi's Alley. That sounds like Heathcliff. Yeah, but they were like criminals. Like cool about it. I don't think Heathcliff was a criminal. No, I think he was just kind of rough and tumble. Yeah, not like Top Cat, who was cool.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Okay, so in the 1960s, when they started really kind of capitalizing, izing on Saturday morning. That's when you saw like Spider-Man and the Fantastic Four and Iron Man and then later Superman and Batman. That's where you see all the like comic book heroes like showing up in that time period. This is when I think people started getting nervous about children watching too much television. Oh, we can't let them have two hours on a Saturday morning. I know, right? It's so like when I think back to that time, it's so similar to the debates about. screen time now. Like, people don't talk about your kids watch too much TV anymore because what they're watching and said is like an iPad. Yeah. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:47 But that conversation was also for us about video games, about, like, I don't know. Obviously, it is a much bigger topic of discussion now, but I think it's pretty similar to, I don't know, people looking down on anyone who watched as much TV and played as many video games as we did. Yeah. There was a parent lobbying group called Action for Children's Television that talked a lot about cartoon violence and commercialism. And then in 1969, the National Association of Broadcasters dictated that advertisements for toys would not be aired during the same show the toys were based on. That's very interesting.
Starting point is 00:25:29 So you couldn't watch like He-Man, and then they immediately advertise a He-Man toy right after it. I'm trying to work out the kind of... That didn't last, by the way. That was relaxed a little bit. So if you are not remembering that, it's probably because by the time... Yeah, no, for sure. I can imagine watching Big Bad Beetle Borgs and then getting like commercials between every block of Big Bad Beetleborg action figure.
Starting point is 00:25:54 There was kind of the next big movement. And I've talked about this before, like when I talked about some of Jim Henson's stuff, but there was a big push for educational programming. on Saturday morning, which is where Schoolhouse Rock really blew up. Started in the late 70s, early 80s, and then as you and I know in the 90s, there was like a resurgence.
Starting point is 00:26:16 Yeah. The biggest, like one of the biggest most successful shows was the Smurfs. Really? Yeah. The Smurfs were kind of there. They debuted on 1981, and they were before like Care Bears
Starting point is 00:26:32 and My Little Pony. like it was smurfs out in the front. Can I be honest with you? Yeah. I don't get the appeal. I've never seen the Smurfs. I didn't see the new Smurfs mood. I've never seen a single piece of Smurfs media that makes me even remotely get it.
Starting point is 00:26:48 They're just little blue guys that live in the woods. Yeah. And then there's a man named Gargamel who wants to kill them. He wants to kill all of them. That's it. Yeah. I mean, if you think about it. There's a girl one that's called like Girl Smurf.
Starting point is 00:27:00 And then there's an old one called Papa Smurf. That one, everyone. Smurfette is the girl one? Smurfette, yeah. Yeah. No, I didn't really enjoy it either. But that was kind of, I mean, you know, if you think about, I was talking about all these comic books, you know, this was like an original, like, imaginary world created just for this show. Yeah, sure, I guess so.
Starting point is 00:27:20 And then blew up into lunchboxes and backpacks. Yeah. I don't mean to offend you folks at home. If you're a big smurf person, that's great. I've just never even got why it's a thing. Yeah. No, me neither. If they did like magic or if they were like...
Starting point is 00:27:35 Maybe they do. Isn't there like a wizard one? Gargamel, I think, is a wizard. Okay. They've killed the moment. Smurfs is so toxic that it killed the momentum of this episode of our show. I'm just thinking of that movie that came out that we didn't have to see. That's a really good way to put it.
Starting point is 00:27:52 The way I'll phrase it because our children weren't even interested. I guess it was Henry at the time. We didn't have Gus yet, I don't think. What if that movie made zero dollars at the box office? just a resounding, just a renouncing of this, just America going, we don't get it. We don't get it. Do they do magic?
Starting point is 00:28:13 They're just little guys that live in the woods and Gargamel wants to kill all of them. They're three apples tall? That's crazy. Why are we measuring stuff like that? You know a fair amount about the Smurfs, it turns out. Yeah, I've been forced to learn a lot of stuff about the Smurfs. I know like three of their names. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:27 I know Gargamel. I know there's three apples. Papa. Yeah, they're three apples tall. They live in a mushroom. I feel like that was one that I watched. People talk about this a lot in our age range. You would just watch stuff you didn't like because it was like on TV.
Starting point is 00:28:40 Dude, David the Gnome? Yeah, that's the one I always think of. You think about David the Gnome and you're like, I fucked with David the Gnome in such a major way. And then you watch David the Gnome now? Very slow. It's very slow. It's very slow. And it looks like the animation was done in like it was some sort of illuminated monastic sort of painting.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Yeah. And it's, that's cool and all, but like nothing ever happens on the show. Sometimes he falls down and he goes, ooh. Now, gummy bears, that was a fucking show about little guys living in the woods. Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, gummy berry juice. When they drank it, they could bounce super high and, like, fighting stuff. A real, like, catchy song.
Starting point is 00:29:19 Gummy bears started too high. Couldn't go on. Bouncing here and there and everywhere. Yeah, I mean, yeah. I'm sorry for this rant. It's just the Smurfs really triggered me. Okay, so 1982, maybe unsurprisingly, Ronald Reagan was president, and he worked with the FCC to loosen programming and advertising regulations. All right.
Starting point is 00:29:43 And one of the earliest cartoons to take advantage of that was Hannah Barbarra's Pac-Man, which was the first cartoon to be based on a video game. Huh. And then after that, it was He-Man, Masters of the Universe, Transformers, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. The Joe, G.I. Joe had to be up in there. there right? Yes, G.I. Joe is a thing before that happened. Yeah. But the idea that like you have launched a television show and there's already merch available like at the same time. That's not a new idea. A lot of people give give, but it was in the 80s. Yeah, fair. Yeah. So by the 90s, the big three major networks began replacing their Saturday.
Starting point is 00:30:31 morning programming with weekend editions of their morning news programs, which we kind of, what is it, CBS Saturday morning is one of them? Sunday morning. I thought it was Sunday morning. I thought it was Saturday morning. The one with the sun face in Mo Rocca. Sunday edition. Sunday edition. It is Saturday morning. It is? Yeah. What happens on Sunday? Meet the press? I don't know. I think that's a different network. Anyway, and a lot of that was because, you know, cable television and, you know, people having video games and other things to do at their fingertips and not really turning to a network television station to watch cartoons.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Yeah. To go outside and play in the sports league that your dad signed you up for. Yeah. That's something that you can do too instead of watching Pokemon. Pokemon. So I mentioned how in the 90s Saturday morning was starting to die down. Yeah. But in 1998, the Pokemon anime had become the highest rated syndicated children's show during the weekdays.
Starting point is 00:31:43 In the U.S. or just sort of globally? North America. Okay. Crazy. So the W.B. and Fox entered a bidding war. and it ended up going with Warner Brothers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Maybe the wisest business decision Warner Brothers ever made in its illustrious history. And so February 1999, Pokemon launched on the Kids WB television station. And it was the most watch premiere in Kids WB history. Not a joke. It was a fucking thing. I was in sixth grade, I think, around this time. and like I would have sleepovers with my buddy clint and we would not my dad my actual buddy clint like Friday night after school go over there and crash sometimes they would show Pokemon at like four o'clock so you could get a couple episodes in there and then you just wake up Saturday morning watch the next episode of Pokemon it was fucking lit it was so dope I was I was in high school at that point and I remember turning it on and just feeling like did I miss where they like I'm so lost where they explain what is like happening.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Yeah, I felt like they were starting in the middle of an episode every time. I had no idea what was happening. You get about 70 seconds of narration at the top of the first episode. This is a world called Pokemon. The creatures here live alongside humans, and they are trained for helping and fighting. Here's a young trainer named Ash Ketchum. Let's check on him how he's doing. That's it.
Starting point is 00:33:19 That's all that you get. And then there's bad guys. Team Rocket. Yeah. Jesse and Jane. James. Now, this is a bonus episode. I'm not going to, are you asking me to watch the Pokemon animated show?
Starting point is 00:33:31 Don't threaten me with a good time. Oh, I don't think it, I don't think I would like it. Maybe not. So the CW Network was the last station to air Saturday morning cartoons on September 27th, 2014. Now you can see them on networks like Me TV. Great. You know, that are like specialized on old programs? We do not watch live television, period, mostly because the cable box we got from our cable provider doesn't work very well.
Starting point is 00:34:07 No, it does not. So we just kind of stream our stuff and you can watch whatever you want to whenever you want to, and that's sort of the modern reality that we live in. I'm guessing that shit like Tsunami or like these like live blocks, these live sectioned off blocks, of television program. Are those still happening anywhere? Or is that just like not a thing anymore? I mean, I'm asking you about.
Starting point is 00:34:30 Prime time, I think. Yeah, sure. I think, you know, all those like shows on Fox. But do they call it TGIF, right? Like, it was packaged. These things were a package in a way that made it so that on Friday, you knew. Yeah. No.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Yeah, I don't think so. No, I mean, network television is crazy. Not what it once was. But I will say this is when I watched Saved by the Bell. Pinky in the Brain. Gosh, Doug was on. Animaniacs in general across the board. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Yeah. Tiny Tune Adventures, Bobby's World. These were all favorites for me. Beetle juice. I didn't really watch Beetle juice. And we have to stop there. We cannot say it a third time because you know what happens. I'm so glad you caught that.
Starting point is 00:35:18 Me too. I've been tricked too many times. I am. Bye. B.J. I don't love that soundbite. I've been tricked too many times by BJ. You don't like that soundbite?
Starting point is 00:35:30 No, I don't. Hey, do you want to know what our friends at home are talking about? Yes. Hannah says, I, a teacher, was organizing a textbook into sheet protectors, and I had the perfect number of sheet protectors to finish the job. Oh, I love that. Best, the best. I love that.
Starting point is 00:35:45 There's like a world of people whose job is to open packs of, like, Pokemon, and magic cards online. I don't know how it's, there's a whole industry around it. Okay. It's a complicated thing, but there's people who are like, content creators who's like opening packs
Starting point is 00:36:03 and they put them in their little sleeves. Oh, it looks so nice. I've never put a card. I had a little book that I put the things in, but I didn't never have like individual little card sleeves. You never did? I never really did that, no. Huh.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Yeah. Probably would have made a lot of money. If I'd held on of those. I can't go back down that well. Emma says, my small wonder is the aglet, the plastic tip on shoelaces. We take them for granted until the cat eats one and you can't lace up your boots. Also, a great wordel starter. I didn't occur to me until I said that word out loud that isn't an islet the hole in like a boot. And so an aglet is like the thing,
Starting point is 00:36:41 the how is aglet spelled? A-G-L-E-L-T? Huh. Cool. I agree. I've had shoes where you lose the aglet and then it's a non-functional shoe. Yeah. You'd have to like lick your fingers and like twist up the thing to get it through the eyelid. Sorry. The show's finger licking good. That leave a review on iTunes and say that. Don't say that. You'll attract an unsavory element.
Starting point is 00:37:05 You'll poison the well. Thank you so much for listening to Wonderful. We've had a great time here today and we hope that you have as well. I want to thank Bowen and Augustus for the use for a theme song Money Won't Pay. It's such a great track. Despite the fact that like it opens up our show. every episode, I still have it in a couple of my playlist whenever it pops up. I'll listen to that shit all the way
Starting point is 00:37:28 through with the vocals and everything. It's a great fucking track. So we're really happy that we get to keep using it for our theme song. And thanks to Maximum Fun for having us on the network. Go to maximum fun.org. Check out all the great shows that they have going on over there. I've been listening to Triple Click a lot lately, the gaming podcast. But there's a ton of other stuff over there. That's going to tickle your fancy. we have new merch in the Macroyo merch store. We have sticky notes. Make It Stick, Sticky Notes, designed by Evan Cruz. We have a new shirt with a, you're going to be amazing design from Tas Balance.
Starting point is 00:38:02 It was designed by Sabrina Volante. Who comes up with the ideas for this merch? I mean, our sort of merch liaison lead, Sarah McKay does a lot of the sort of... Yeah. I'm always so impressed. Yeah. It's like the Make It Stick Sticky notes. Of course. It's right there. Yeah. I mean, we've worked with a lot of folks, a lot of like really talented artists. and designers, and, you know, from what I understand, some of them pitch stuff, and then McKay goes out and sources a lot of the stuff. Love it. Yeah, she's very good at her job.
Starting point is 00:38:34 So yeah, both those things. Over at Macroymerch.com and 10% of all of our merch proceeds this month will be donated to Lambda Legal. All of the proceeds from the You're Going to Be Amazing shirt are going to be donated to Lambda Legal, which is a national organization working to achieve full recognition of the civil rights of LGBTQ plus people and everyone living with HIV through impact litigation, education, and public policy work. One last thing, the Adventure Zone graphic novel, the final one of them, story and song,
Starting point is 00:39:01 comes out in just five weeks, six weeks. It's a big, meaty tone that you're going to love tearing through as you complete the story of Taz Balance. You can pre-order that over at theadventurezonecom. Barnes & Noble and Books a Million have exclusive editions of it. available. So there's plenty of opportunities. Pre-ordering it helps us so much
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