Wonderful! - Wonderful! 422: My Fiery Paradiddles

Episode Date: June 17, 2026

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Hi, this is Rachel McElroy. Hello, this is Griffin McElroy. This is wonderful. Welcome to Wonderful. This is a podcast where me, Griffin McElroy and my wife, Rachel McElroy, talk about things we like. That is good. That we're into. Sometimes it's flights of fancy.

Sometimes it's real meaningful stuff. But no matter what it is, you can be assured that I'm recording this is our promo. Okay. It started out as an intro to the episode, but then it became sort of a 45-second elevator pitch. because we're not good. I have never been good at doing us. I downplay it every single time. And they run on other Max Fun shows, like good shows, and then we'll like suddenly

pop up in the middle of them and be like, we're Peepee and Poo Man. My name is Pee Pee Pee Man, and I like to eat butt burgers. Like, and this show that it'll be on will be like about, you know, important stuff or fascinating stuff or science stuff. And then we roll up into the place and we are absolutely the clampets. Yeah. No, I understand what you mean. Sometimes I like when other people are introducing us.

Yes. And they know enough about our podcast to like suggest to the person like, here's what it is. Yes. A lot of times when people say like art and culture, I feel good about that. Ooh, yeah. Oh, man. That sounds like a nice thing. Yeah.

But if you go through the list of topics we have discussed. Yeah. I don't know, you know, where where's Waldo fits? I guess culture. I guess where's Waldo is culture. Uh-huh. What about wombat's cube-shaped poop? That's not either our war culture.

That's more of a science or biological sort of thing. Science technology. I mean, you know, art, culture, science, technology. Bayblades. I think 2026 is the year I get really into Bayblades. And I'm shocked. it hasn't happened yet. I know.

They're battle tops. Yeah. They're spinning battle tops. That's cool. Why have I never fucked with that before? Yeah. I guess I don't know who I do. I guess our kids,

but I would get competitive. Yeah. And spinning a top is not easy. I'm, well, for them. I'm good as hell at it. But sometimes I've had to spin tops for them. So it would really just be me bayblading against myself. Which what's stopping you at that point?

You could do it tomorrow. What if you did? bayblades together. You know how we have friends and they're married and they play Magic the Gathering with each other? I don't even know if they still do that, but we got really excited when they told us that. Yeah, but maybe you and me could do that but for bayblades. How does one, I mean, I don't. You go to this shop, you buy a bayblade.

But how do you win? How do you pick the right bayblade for you? That's a good question. It's all about weight class. It's all about does the monster on the front of the box that the top is. and look cool. Is it like Pogs? Yes.

Like if I go into battle with you, yeah, with my signature Bayblade. Sure. How do I know I've won? Do I just knock you off the course? The other top explodes. Like they, they, they, it's violent.

I don't know if you are on Bayblade TikTok. Like Battlebots. So it's like Battlebots meets Pogs. Yeah. It's like Battlebots meets Pogs meets anime. Okay. It'd be like if they made an anime of Pogs. The problem is I don't like.

any of those things. Okay. I mean, I guess I like anime, but at a very light touch. Every anime I've tried to show you. You've bounced completely off. Well, I'm counting Miyazaki as anime. Can I count that? You can absolutely.

Okay, and I like that. Yeah. Okay, that works too. Do you have any small wonders? Instead of talking about things that are extraordinarily popular with our audience that you don't like, is there a perhaps like a somewhat trivial thing that you enjoy that we could do here in the small in the small wonder segment i mean i'm going to try and get specific okay because i feel like we both maybe want to talk about a wonderful thing yeah

we did recently oh yeah um gosh i think we can get very specific we went to gang let's not dance around it we went to the first wedding that we've been to in one gregorian decade and uh was just genuinely nervous for some reason about it. I know we both felt nervous as we were walking in. Because we're like, what if we don't know how to do it, if we don't remember how to do it, go to a wedding and be at a wedding. And I love weddings, but we haven't been to one since you were pregnant with Henry. So it's been a minute.

Yeah. But man, what a great time. We had such an amazing time. It exceeded all of my expectations. Shout out to our friends, Eric and Matysol, for the beautiful. They put together a great event. Great ceremony, great reception. Very personal to them, very welcoming.

I drank six margaritas. Wait, every single time it was a margarita? Every single time it was a margarita. You never like very from. They were really good. They were very good. And I didn't open my legs, as the song suggested. I just danced.

I think I danced them all out of my body like in real time. I was replacing them, just pushing the sweat out of my. my body and the alcohol was leaving me and just been turning into dance. That's what my small wonder will be is that like how delighted our friends were by Griffin dancing. Because again, it had been such a long time since they had seen us dance. It had been 10 years since I danced. Probably.

Thereabouts. I mean, we dance with the boys. Not like this. Not like this. Not like this. They're not ready to see their dad's six margaritas deep fucking crue. crumping to Natasha Bettingfield's unwritten. They're not ready for that, he.

That'll change our dynamic entirely forever. I tell Griffin this a lot, but like when we first started dating, we went dancing in a big group. And one of the ways that I knew that I was falling in love with Griffin was how much fun I had going to dance. I don't know. It seems out of character for me, doesn't it? If you take a look at a lot of my other attributes and personality traits, Yeah. Loving to dance for hours.

It seems incongruous with those. Yeah. But in the right circumstance, and man, this was the right circumstance. I'll dance joyously for hours on end. I was soaked through my nice clothes that I also hadn't worn in 10 years. The best time. Yeah. The best time.

And just the fact that, I mean. Seeing all of our beautiful friends. Yeah. At this point in our lives, we are at. an age where we don't have a lot of opportunities to go to weddings. Yeah. And like assemble as a big group generally. You know, like all of us had to do a lot of arranging to make this work.

And so it was just really nice to be an adult and remember what it was like to be an adult like in my 20s and 30s. So good. So fun. It's a mariachi band. So good, dude. Yeah. I'm obsessed. Like family members standing up and just like singing.

Oh, man. What a great time. It was really amazing. I go first this week. Yes. That was small enough. I mean, it was big enough as it can be both of our small wonders.

This is great. Oh, we started watching Widows Bay. It slaps ass. It's cool. It's a cool show. It's a cool show. That's my small wonder. This week, I would like to talk to you about constellations.

These are the big connect the dot pictures up in the night sky all the way up there in the stars. I can't get enough of these guys. And I feel like, thanks to Gus's fascination, his inexplicably deep fascination with the zodiacs, I feel like I've been learning a lot about them lately, or some of them, I guess, a select few of the constellations. But there's a lot of stuff about constellations that I did not know. And I'd like to impart some of that knowledge unto you now. Please do, because I only know like the big three. The big three, which are both dippers. The two dippers.

And the belt. Orion. Okay. And I think that's probably it. So, none of those are constellations. But I'll get into, yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. There's a lot to learn here. We're starting, yeah, I know.

I thought the same thing, but those are not constellations. I haven't been this shock since, like, the dinosaurs or birds thing came out. Those are technically asterisms. I'll explain the difference because there's like a whole thing. Yeah, I didn't know that term either. I'm going to learn stuff today. Dude, I learned a lot while researching constellations and it's very cool, okay? You got to start here.

There is a conceptual sort of tool for measuring things relative distance to each other in the night sky called the celestial sphere. And that is just like if you imagine that the night sky was a solid shell, like a big spherical shell that Earth is right in the middle of. So you're not so much worried about the distance of each star to Earth. It's just like a painted dot on a big spherical ball that we are on the inside of. And when you look up and you point in a direction, you're pointing upwards somewhere towards the celestial sphere. Do you dig that so far? I think so. It's like a big shell that we're inside.

Yeah. Astronomies use it to sort of visualize objects in the night sky without sort of factoring in their actual distance from us. So constellations, they predate history. There have been countless civilizations that have devised like countless mythologies and, navigational systems and all kinds of stuff, just using the dots of the night sky. And this is the raddest thing to me about constellations because the night sky is relatively permanent with like very incremental, almost like unnoticeable changes. They have been this constant subject of human fascination for hundreds of thousands of years.

And when you look up at the night sky and you look at a constellation, it's the same one with very, very few exceptions. This is the same one that people were looking at. they may have had different names for it and different reasons for it, but I think that's very cool because they're stars. They're up there for a while. Yeah. The zodiac is a very, very good example of this.

I didn't know what the zodiac, the word zodiac was. No. So the orbit, the Earth is on around the sun and the moon is on around the Earth. That all happens in like a ring or a plane, the celestial plane. So just like a solid disk inside of the sphere. If you take that plane that's like our orbit around the sun, and you just kind of reach up and down, just a little bit, eight degrees up and down.

You get this belt of night sky, and that is called the zodiac. It is this belt around the ecliptic, the path that we travel around the sun. If you go up and down from a little bit, you get the zodiac. If you cut that belt into 12 even portions going around in 360 degrees, that's where the 12 zodiac signs get their shape.

These 30-degree increments of this belt of stars going immediately around sort of, Earth's axis, I guess. That's what the zodiac is. So wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait. Yeah. So, you know how people say, like, I'm a Libra, but a Sagittarius rising? Did you figure out what that means?

Like, part of me feels like maybe we could figure it out just with context clues. Maybe. Maybe it is literally that the, you know, constellation Sagittarius is a little bit riding a little bit higher up in the night sky, right? because the belt is sort of a, you know, a 16 degree kind of slice of the celestial sphere around us. So that's what they mean by rising? Maybe. Maybe it just means it's higher up. I didn't find that out. There was a lot to learn here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But these divisions, this division of the zodiac, this like belt of stars around the Earth's sort of central plane, that was devised, like the cutting it into 30-degree kind of divisions. that was done by Babylonian astronomers circa 400 BCE.

And they remain sort of culturally and astronomically like relevant to this day. That's crazy. That's like that's truly, truly wild. So different, you know, civilizations and cultures throughout human history have had their own constellations with their own lore and their own, you know, meaning. And those, you know, dramatically expanded across those different cultures as, you know, astronomical science and telescopes sort of developed. And it wasn't until 1919, astronomers from organizations around the globe from a bunch of different countries came together to form the

International Astronomical Union, the IAU. And they sought to kind of like pool all of their knowledge and everything that they know about the stars to, you know, expand humankind's understanding of the stars and bring it all under sort of one big umbrella. This was the group, three years later in 1922, they are the ones who codified the list of 88 constellations that are up in the night sky. And the way that it works, the reason I explained the celestial sphere thing is that it uses that, right? So you're imagining the night sky is a big shell around us. They have mapped out 88 portions of that shell. And within those 88 portions of that shell are the 88 sort of recognized constellations. Imagineing it this way, if you point in any

direction into the night sky, you are hitting one of those mapped portions because it covers the entire celestial sphere. They have mapped it all out, which is why you are not getting new constellations because technically it's just regions of this map that is like fully comprehensive of the night sky. So it's not like the pictures the stars make. It is the pictures that the stars make within those regions. They're not even squares. They are funky gerrymanders like districts. But no matter what, like it is a division, you know, along these preset boundaries that covers everything, that covers the entire celestial sphere. So those are the 88 constellations, but you can have probably infinite astorisms.

Asterisms are just sort of unofficial constellations or portions of other actual constellations, right? So the big dipper is not a constellation. Ursa Major is a constellation, and the Big Dipper is contained within that. It is an asterism. Orion's belt is an asterism. Orion is a constellation. Yeah, so there's like definitions.

There's firm definitions for these things that the IAU came up with a hundred and four years ago. Oh, you're going to be insufferable now, aren't you, when we're like out? Technically. I believe you mean an asterism. I have always thought they were very, I've always thought constellations were very cool. I've always thought the stars and space and stuff. Like I've always had a fascination with it.

I've always wished I could like identify the constellations by sight in the night sky. I feel like you can, most folks can do the big dipper mostly from like learning about it in school. We learned about follow the drinking gourd and like the, I don't know what you're talking about right now. It's like, you know, when slaves would run away, they had this sort of North Star and Follow the Drinking Gord was like a, I think a song. I don't know.

I'm pulling knowledge that is 30 years old in my brain and is decrepit. I apologize for probably not doing a good job by it. But I've never really been able to reliably kind of like identify constellations in the sky, but there are apps using like GPS that allow you to sort of point your phone upwards and then using AR. There's one called Stellarium that I've used in the past that's very cool, which kind of just puts this AR overlay over the night sky, which lets you see where things are when the night sky isn't immediately visible because you live in a big city like DC.

So I think I'm going to get into that. Yeah, sure. Because I think our kids would also be very into that. I also just like at a very kind of existential level, like stars have always been like super, meaningful to human beings. And I think it's like this evolutionary kind of, you know, fear of the darkness and therefore having these tiny points of light as like a comfort in the sky.

Like we are hardwired to find kind of like comfort in the stars and like find fascination in them. And it's just rad that these simple kind of doodles that show up every night have like told sailors they're heading and told farmers when to plant and harvest their crops. and told stories about like, you know, gods, like they've been everything to someone. And I just think they're neat. They are for sure. Thanks, Constellations.

Yeah. Can I steal you away? Please. Do you still like me? Do you still think I'm like hot or whatever after I like totally geeked out about constellations? I mean, on the scale of geeky things that you have talked about on this podcast, I would say stars are pretty cool. That was chilling. Okay. Are you ready?

Yes. My topic this week is a good wedding DJ. Oh, man. Hell yeah, dude. Yeah, man. Absolutely. Yeah, man. I wanted to pull something from this past weekend because we had such a good time.

Do you remember his name? DJ Sway. DJ Sway. Yeah. That's crazy. I did not know you could do that one. I feel like Sway was, Sway was an MTV VJ.

We did. We had a moment when he announced his name that I thought like, Huh. Can you do that? If it was the MTV Vijay sway, I wonder if he'd remember me from the great lunch we had together. Probably not, honey. Me and him and Kurt Loder,

chowing down and just the three of us and like 49 other 20 year olds. Just like chilling in the MTV. I loved DJ Sway. What a great performance he put on. He, so he, I mean, you can find him if you Google him. I don't know a lot about him. He does seem to have an Instagram.

And also, uh, roller skates, uh, which. Like he does it on roller skates? No, like that's another one of his talents if you look him up. Awesome. Yeah. You went on a little journey today, didn't you? I mean, it's just his Instagram. There's nothing, no law against it.

I didn't look at DJ's like anybody could have done that. Anybody can do that. There's no law against it. I just realized. I mean, you know, I understood obviously that a lot of work goes into being a wedding DJ. But the thing that I think I really appreciated about DJ sway is that I feel like he really read the vibe. I feel like that the night kind of started out pretty safe and like these are the songs you play at wedding receptions. And then he realized I think that every or at least the majority of the people in the crowd were in their like late 30s, early 40s and really like dialed in a way that I respected.

Like, oh, he's playing the songs that he knows we would like. Yeah, that's the mark of a true craftsman. Yeah, for sure. Someone who just gets a playlist ready in advance. There's also, you know, momentum. Like, once people are, like, going, you got to keep that train rolling and you got to keep giving them what they need. Well, and that's what's fascinating, I think, is there's a point when you commit to

dancing where you're kind of like, all right, I'll take a break after this song. But if they, like, play another really good song, you're like, you're like, like trapped on the answer. Yeah, you're not going anywhere. Like, well, I can't leave now. Yeah. So we, we obviously had like, I don't know if we've mentioned or not, but when we planned our wedding, we picked a wedding DJ. And we just kind of picked it based. I was looking back through our early emails. Oh boy. And it was just, we asked the woman at the venue. Like, we thought that she was, she like volunteered her services to be our like coordinator, uh, in addition to being, you know, the venue owner.

And we were just like, okay, where do we find a cake? Where do we find a DJ? Like, what about flowers? And she helped us with all of it. And she recommended this guy, DJ Chad Case. And... You said his name weird. How would you say it?

DJ Chad case. DJ Chad case. You said it like DJ Chad case. Like you were embarrassed? Well, it's been a very long time since we got married. Yeah. I don't know if he's still in the business. Yeah.

I don't know if maybe he is. We don't, we can't endorse his personal politics. We don't know anything. Yeah, sure. Listening in the central Texas area. It's just the name of the man who played music at our wedding. And also, and this is something else I realized when I was researching,

um, you may see the same DJ at multiple weddings and potentially not like them as much at a different wedding. Yeah. Because the DJ works very hard to meet your musical tastes. Right. Whereas if they go. to a different wedding, different vibe, different people.

They may play music that is totally different than you would have picked. Including our own, we went to three different weddings that DJ Chack Hay's work. Yes, we did. That's true. And he turned out a different performance each time. For sure. Because he did ask, at least I think, I remember him giving you like a questionnaire and like asking for like, no-go songs. Yeah, playlist, which is very common among wedding DJs to just say like, what should

and I play? And then also kind of what, what do you want my role to be? Yeah. Because there is one thing, obviously, you know, you can make your own playlist and just hit play, you know, easy enough. But like wedding DJs typically announce, and as, as DJ sway did, of like, this is the dance with this person or this parent or this is now they're going to exit and let's all line up or, you know, the couple would like everyone to join them on the dance floor. And like that kind of stuff is really valuable. And you need to have somebody with a pretty warm personality to pull that off. Absolutely.

Yeah. Can't have a mean wedding DJ. So here's where my research came in. Okay. I, of course, I was like, well, when did DJ start working at weddings? You can't figure that out. But the thing that was kind of helpful was this idea of the mobile disco. which was this idea that like a DJ could take their gear and go to different locations.

So it wasn't just like a nightclub. It was like I can pick up and go to different places and different bars and whatever depending. And apparently that started in the 1960s in the UK. Roger Squire started a mobile discotheque business. Squire like a knight's assistant? Yes, S-Q-U-I-R-E. You put a lot of sort of D. Texas twang on that word in a way that I found extremely charming.

Well, we just got back. We have also been watching Friday Night Lights and I think that that is probably snuck in. Matt Saracen is a great squar. He may not be the night that we wanted, but he has stepped up. That's beautiful. Yeah. Clear eyes full hearts. Canvass.

Thank you. Okay, so he started this business and pretty soon he was expanding his operation to 15 different mobile discos and performing around 60 different functions each week. Good God Almighty. I know. I know. How the hell did he do that? I don't know, man. I mean, I guess just morning night every day.

I don't know what you do in the morning. That does not. That's 14. That's nowhere near the number that Mr. Squire was participating in. That's crazy. Yeah, I didn't actually think about the logistics of that. I assume he hired people. Okay.

But what ended up happening, so that it started, as I mentioned in the 60s. By the late 60s, the number of dance clubs started to diminish. Most of like live music was happening like via instruments or like neighborhood block parties. And then in the 70s is when you started to see like the immersion of like disco tax music. Yeah. Which, you know, is is a lot of like kind of like soul and funk and it's a blend of so many different types of music. Yeah. That it kind of lends itself nicely to kind of DJ.

You don't have to explain to me why disco is good for dancing to. I don't know. It's so reviled among. a lot of people that I always feel like I need to be like, well, it's kind of fun, though. Yeah, no, I mean, I think disco got a bad run just because, like, the generation that came after it was like, ugh, gross disco.

And then the generation that came after that was like grunge rock era who were like, oh, disco. Like, there were just a few in a row where people were like, yuck. But now, you know, looking back, we can all appreciate the jammers. So in one of the big moments, This is 1977, a DJ Tom L. Lewis, which I'm guessing was not his DJ name, but maybe it was. DJ Tom L. Lewis is really sick.

He introduced the Disco Bible, which was later renamed Disco Beats, which was a published list of the beats per minute of like hit songs. Okay. As well as, you know, the artist in the song title. Billboard ran an article on the publication and it went national relatively quickly. The list made it easier for beginning. to learn how to create seamless transitions between songs. Yeah. So important.

Yeah. Yeah. Because beats per minute is not anything, like the idea that, I guess, how do you find that information when you are mixing songs? Well, I mean, in a game like fuser, it kind of just, like, tells you most of the time. But there's lots of different way. I mean, there's, I have many times used just like a tempo tap website where you just like tap a space bar to the thing.

and it gives you an approximate kind of VPN. See, I didn't know that was a thing. Yeah, but it only works if you have flawless rhythm. If only you have a drumline major's rhythm. Oh. I don't. I wasn't. Yeah, I can't picture you.

On a drum line? No. I can picture me on a drum line. If I had put the hours in to practice it, I think I would. I mean, you definitely would have been good. I just, I can't picture you, I guess, in the uniform marching around on a field. Well, I wouldn't wear the uniform. Wow.

Yeah, I'd be kind of. I'm a rebel. They would make an exception for you. They would, because I'd drum's so good. My paradiddles would be so fiery. My fiery paradiddles would get away with a murder. Do you know how to spell paradigdle? P-A-R-A-D-D-D-L-E.

Are you 100% on that? I took the limitless pill this morning. Okay. 1998, final scratch debuted, which was the first digital DJ system to give DJ's control of MP3 files. Okay. And it was all downhill from there. Which is then like a lot of people

can do it. They can get any song necessary. It doesn't have to just be what they brought with them, you know, which is obviously a huge game changer. The other thing I looked up to research, Esquire did a list of what they called the 40 best wedding reception songs of all time ranked.

Can I guess number one? Sure. Is it, is it September? by Earthwind and Fire? No, that is on the list, but it is down at number eight. I mean, top ten, that feels all right. What is, what do they have? I mean, shout, I mean, shout is like a staple.

I think there's a lot of staple wedding songs that I don't rock with. Yeah, most of them, most of those aren't on this list. Okay. Because I think Esquire was trending to be. Good, good for them, yeah. And this, again, this speaks to what I was talking about earlier of like everybody's music taste is so different that it's crazy that they put this list together. But the one they had picked was one, I don't even know if I've ever heard it at a wedding.

And it is, I want to dance with somebody by Whitney Houston. Oh, sure. Which would be great. Yeah, it's great. If somebody had to ask me the number one song, I would probably not say that one. Number two, Kiss by Prince. Oh, yeah. It's another really fun one.

Yeah, because it's like a verb also. And people tell people to do that at weddings, which is crazy. be like if there was a song that was called like dress and veil canopays prince probably had a song called canopays he would yeah that would have been phenomenal number three shout by the isley brothers that's one that i've definitely taken part in um cha cha cha-cha slide number four see we laid down the law with dj jack case and he was he abided by it which was no kind of prescriptive dance uh yeah no electric slide. No YMCA.

Cupid shuffle YMCA. These are crowd pleasers, obviously, and I harbor no grudge against them. I just simply didn't want to make my friends and family dance like trained monkeys, like lab rats. So based on my whims. And this is another thing too, right? It's like who all is coming to your wedding? Because what ended up happening since we had our wedding in Austin was it was like by and large, in people, all kind of close to our age, I'm not going to make them do the YMCA.

Not dyed in the wool, Isley Brothers fans. Well, and not people, like you're not, we didn't really have to tell them how to dance. Well, and cast a wide net for an older generation. True. This is what I'm saying. True. I don't know if you have this memory, but I feel like there was a certain point when I looked out around the dance floor. And I was like, I don't know what happened to everybody over 35, but I don't see any of them.

It was like Logan's run out there. Like a post-35 purge had happened at some point when we played, you know, turned down for what? Turned down for what may not have even been in existence by the time we had our wedding. Yeah. Where is that on the top 40 list? That's not. Bullshit.

That's not on there. All right. But yeah. So anyway, so I think just part of what made that wedding like so. memorable was that like so many of us were out on the dance floor, especially at the very end. And it's just such a like important part of the experience. Like looking back, we obviously knew kind of what parts like, you know, obviously we want a good venue and we want certain photographers or whatever. But the DJ, we really were just like we didn't. We just picked the one that she told us to. And we lucked out that it ended up being somebody. We did go to a wedding that he DJed before our wedding. Did we? We did.

Yes. Because he played, there was a medley of Elvis songs that was personally important. That was after us. I'm almost certain it was before because we told him no Elvis medley, sir, please. No. Really? I miss remembering it? We ended up recommending him to two other couples that used him.

I get it. And the one you're referencing was another couple. Maybe he asked us, I do a kick-ass Elvis medley. And we were like, we have no, that's fine for some people, we have no affinity with this man. Yeah. With this shaky-legged rock troubadour. The wedding he played the Elvis medley at, though, had a lot of older people. They loved it.

They were eating good. Of course. Not at our wedding. I don't think it. There probably would have been some folks more advanced in years who would have enjoyed it. I wouldn't even know how to dance to Elvis. I don't think. Yeah, me neither.

I guess I don't have the right pelvis condition. control. Yeah. Well, and there's the, like, he only did, like, one or two good stuff. Is the other thing. So, like, a medley, for me, would be short, probably. It'd be, like, suspicious minds. What about hound dog? What about, uh, rock? Awesome. Two huge Elvis heads over there. Rock and roll. Blue suede shoes. Sucs. Sucs. Suspicious minds fuck so hard, though. It almost makes me kind of like forgive the rest of it. But I don't want to talk about that anymore. That's negative stuff.

Yeah. Do you want to know what our friends at home are talking about? Please. I've got one from Rip, who says, My Small Wonder is when you pick up a bottle of dish soap and a little fountain and tiny bubble spouts out. They're always extra rainbowy,

especially if you happen to be standing in front of a sunny window, it adds a wonderful element of whimsy and surprise to the really tedious chore of washing up. I think someone has sent this exact thing in before. Oh, really? I will read it every time. especially when you pick a different verb for what happens to the bubbles, like spood that rip came up with here. I do love it.

I do love it a lot. That is, again, I mean, I feel like we said this last time, but that is a perfect small wonder. Yeah. It's really, really great. It reminds you this thing that I interface with. And when I do interface with it, I'm not happy about it using. I've never been using dish soap and been like, yay. But then bubbles come out of it.

And you're like, this is the same stuff. bubble stuff that I love so much when I was a kid. It's nice. It's a nice moment reconnecting with your youth. Rigel says, My Small Wonder is this app called Roost Social that lets you text at the speed of bird. You collect digital creatures and send messages

that take as long to get to the recipient as it would take for its earth analog to travel. It very cutely flies in the face of instant gratification, sometimes taking hours or days just to send a single message. I like that a lot. I like that a lot. As my continued dedication to the Be Real platform would suggest I love an inconvenient novelty social media. This is not an endorsement.

I don't know. This is the first I've heard of, Ruse's social. So you pick the bird? I guess you collect birds and then you send the messages on the backs of birds. And depending on the flight speed of the bird, it will take a long time. And so your friend has the app too. Yeah. And like, you know, whatever, five days later you'll get the message.

Yeah. Okay. So hopefully it's not like a message like, oh, God, where's my medicine? That you're texting to your friend in Seattle. It turns out I can't meet you for lunch today. Yeah. Yeah. But if you're sending that as probably someone who lives in the same city as you,

the bird would not have to fly very far. Oh, good point. Anyway, I thought that sounded neat. Uh-huh. Thank you so much to Bowen and Augustus for the use of our theme song. Money Won't Pay. Find a link to that in the episode description. And thank you so much.

for listening. I did those out of order. I usually thank the listener first. And I really do mean it. I know I do that one first, and it seems perfunctory at this point. I'm so grateful that we get to do this show and that people support it because I love making it so much with you. Thanks also to MaxFon for having us on the network. Go to MaximumFond.org. Check out all the great stuff they have going on over there. We have merch over at mackroymerch.com. 20 Make It Stick. Stick stickers up on there. You're going to be amazing design t-shirt. a whole bunch of stuff over at mackroydurch.com. And we have the last Taz graphic novel book coming out in around a month,

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I don't have, I don't have any. I bet that's a fun one. I don't having the plug. I think the energy of you on the KCS would be really, the chemistry would be red hot. I don't think so. You don't think so? I feel like my energy is really low, just generally. Huh. Especially if I am nervous or in an environment where I don't know anybody.

I disagree with that, but do you think maybe it's possible that you've just been waiting for a moment like that? Do you want me to keep talking or should that be the end? Some people will I have time. Maybe this should be the end of the episode. Probably. Maximum Fun. A Worker-Oled Network of Artist-owned shows.

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